The Daily Zeitgeist - Brett Kavanaugh: Mayor Of Keg City, ‘Apprentice’ Creator Literally Fights Tom Arnold 9.18.18

Episode Date: September 18, 2018

In episode 234, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Wayne Federman to discuss Tom Arnold's fight with Mark Burnett, Senators on both sides delaying the vote on Kavanaugh because of the recent discovery, Trump's war against women, Roger Stone's associate Randy Credico, a new study that finds four distinct personality 'types,' Mark Wahlberg's morning schedule, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Tom Arnold and Mark Burnett in Physical Altercation at Evening Before Emmy Party2. LAPD on Tom Arnold-Mark Burnett Dispute: ‘No Police Report Filed’3. 'The Hunt for the Trump Tapes With Tom Arnold' takes aim at 'Apprentice' producer Mark Burnett4. Trump’s Apprentice Producer Once Did Business With Putin5. 'Bible' Producers Cut Satan Scenes From 'Son of God' Following Obama Controversy (Video)6. Kavanaugh, accuser say they’re ready to testify, but how?7. Dianne Feinstein Refers a Kavanaugh Matter to Federal Investigators8. California professor, writer of confidential Brett Kavanaugh letter, speaks out about her allegation of sexual assault9. Brett Kavanaugh’s High School Friend Isn’t Helping the Nominee’s Case10. Kellyanne Conway: Accuser should not be ignored11. The Ezra Klein Show: Martha C. Nussbaum on how fear deforms our politics12. Roger Stone associate Randy Credico meets with Mueller grand jury in Russia probe13. Roger Stone to Associate: “Prepare to Die”14. Mueller’s Office Will Grill Him About Roger Stone. He Will Respond With Comedy.15. Study: people tend to cluster into four distinct personality “types”16. Mark Wahlberg wakes up at 2:30 a.m. to start his day with a workout 17. WATCH: Dirty Art Club - Queen Persephone Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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For Tuesday, September 18th, 2018, my name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. It's the Eye of O'Brien, it's The Daily Zeitgeist, rising up to drop the freshest of our hot takes. And a second-rate podcast stocks Miles Gray in the night. And he's watching us all with the eye. Jack O'Brien. All right. That is courtesy of Hannah Soltis.

Yeah. And I'm thrilled to be joined as always By my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray Miles had the time of zeitgeist And I never felt this gray before I don't know if I did that again But that is really from Chapman Rice, a.k.a. Goddess And I just had to do it again

It's worth repeating It's just worth doing It's just worth doing And that might be the first time But either way, hello and welcome Hello Hey Miles I'm in Rice, a.k.a. Goddess, and I just had to do it again. It's worth repeating. It's just worth doing. It's just worth doing. And that might be the first time. But either way, hello and welcome. Hello. Hey, Miles.

Hi. It's Jack. Good to see you again. Good to see you as well. In our third seat, we are thrilled to have the stand-up great. You know him from Drunk History and Crashing. He is Mr. Wayne Fetterman. Thank you. Thank you.

Hey, thanks for being here. We had too many credits we could list for you. Yeah, I know. Let's just go through them all. Everything. No, we don't have to. My question for you is Survivor is Eye of the Tiger, but I don't know if I know who sang Time of Your Life.

I don't either. I just know it as that song. Is it Jennifer Warren? Yeah, it's from Dirty Dancing. Yeah. Well, obviously, but I mean, is it Jennifer Warren? Something like that? Yes, no, Jennifer Warnes and Bill Medley.

Warnes? Yes, and that's what it is. What happened to Bill Medley? I don't know. Did he have any other hits? That's weird. That's why at first I was like, maybe I should feel bad for not knowing who did it, but then when I read those names, I'm like, those don't really ring a bell.

No, I do remember. Okay, it was close. That's close. Yeah. But Survivor, for sure. Everyone knows that, right? Oh, the greatest. Yeah. All right, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a bell. No, I do remember. Okay, it was close. That was close. Yeah. But Survivor, for sure. Everyone knows that, right? Oh, the greatest. Yeah.

All right, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment, Wayne, but first we're going to tell our listeners what we are about to talk about. We're going to talk about the fight of the century that happened over the weekend between Tom Arnold and Mark Burnett. Oh. Was that the Canelo? No. Oh, yeah, there was that, too.

There was also that. Heard about that. Was that the Canelo? Oh, yeah, there was that, too. There was also that. Heard about that. We're going to talk about how senators from both sides are reacting to all the Kavanaugh breaking news. We are going to talk about Trump's feelings towards women, just in general.

We're going to talk about Sean Penn's feelings toward the Me Too movement. A gentleman named Randy Credico, who you may not know, but you should. And finally, we're going to talk about the four distinct personality types. Miles, I've been waiting a long time for this. Myers-Briggs is just complete garbage. It's been punted to the curb. Has been replaced by an actual scientific study of personality types. And we're also going to talk about Mark Wahlberg. But first, Wayne, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are as a human being?

Oh, that we're going to reveal? Yes. Well, we'll just be judging you. Well, it's the difference between the word aesthetic and aesthetic. Ooh. E with the A. Just word aesthetic and aesthetic. Ooh. E with the A. Just looked it up today. Okay.

Because I was writing an article. Okay. And someone corrected my aesthetic with an aesthetic. Oh. And I was like, hmm. So what is aesthetic? Yes. Well, aesthetic is, you know, the general idea behind something, the general way it's.

And aesthetic is the exact same thing, except that's the way they say it in Britain. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, just the spelling. Yeah. It was ridiculous. Yeah. For a second, I was like, do I not know this word?

So I thought I didn't. Because I was correct. Because somebody sent this article, and he was like, I think you mean aesthetic. I was like, oh. Wow. And I love being corrected. I love learning you mean aesthetic. I was like, oh, wow. And I love being corrected. I love learning things. Yeah.

I always spell it A-E. I think I do, too. No, it's- But in America, we spell it with just the E? You also spell color with a U. I do, and favorite with a U. I'm a bit of an Anglophile as well. Oh, okay. Yeah.

I mean, I have a few- Congratulations on the royal wedding. Thank you so much. I have a bit of rubbish in the boot of my car I have to get later. It's an estate car. What is something you think is overrated, Wayne? Okay, this is going to turn off most of your listeners. All right.

Okay, this is going to be very controversial. We have to do that up top. Hit the controversial theme music. Okay, that's not it. There it is. Here we go. The movie Shawshank redemption wow yes that's over rated now tell me how did you arrive at this because i saw the movie because i had to sit

through it and then there was a whole wave of people loving it to the point where i go on imdb and they have that own rating service. Usually, if it's not number one, it's usually the Godfather. Right. They go back and forth. Really? Yes. I didn't know.

Shawshank is now regarded, yeah, in the world of IMDB as the- Does that mean like the search heat around it? No, no. They have a ranking of what they believe is the- It's crowdsourced by Americans. So I am going against America on this one. Sometimes that is an okay thing to do. Right.

Well, in this case, I'm sure I'm going to get some heat on. But that's my feeling. I felt like it was not a great movie. I didn't think it was- Again, I know people obviously adore it. But a prison movie where there's an evil warden, I've never seen anything like it. Yeah, unheard of. Unheard of.

Yeah. Can you believe it? I can't believe it. It doesn't vibe well with my idea of prison. Yeah, this is really breaking some boundaries here. Okay. Yeah. I was a fan of the strong female characters in the movie.

You mean on the poster on the wall? Yeah, exactly. What is something you think is underrated? The comedian Paul F. Tompkins. Yeah. No, you disagree. No, no, no, no. I just feel like that guy is just genius.

I don't know why he's not a famous comedian. He's like a comedian. If you like comedy, you know Paul F. Tompkins, but he's not a household name. Right, exactly. I just think he's off the chart brilliant. Amazing. One of my favorite. He he is one of my favorite performers yeah do you would you say he's underrated i would under were you under known i guess like i feel like it's hard you're right some way even like when you talk about shawshank like part of me where i agree with you the overratedness is how much they fucking play that movie all the time and i'm like

whoa what the fuck is going on here right it's rated it's highly rated it's rated it's held up in high regard but yeah with paul f tompkins he's like one of those people where i feel like obviously if you know comedy you like comedy you know who pft is but like i feel like he deserves to be in that next wave or that next circle of influence all the time How is he not on talk shows all the time? Exactly, yeah. He's constantly on podcasts and is just always good. I think he's on every podcast except ours. His batting average is so high.

Oh. Anyway, so that's – And I love hearing him improvise. His improv skills are just – I just crack up when he's on Comedy Bang. We're all on the same page. Yeah, yeah. He's amazing. We all agree with each other. Alright, guys. Let's wrap it up.

Everybody, go out. Makes for great podcasting. Welcome to the comedy bubble. One of my favorite sort of underrated podcasts every year is when Paul F. Tompkins and Scott Aukerman do the countdown of the top Comedy Bang Bang moments of the year.

It's great just the in-stud bang moments of the year. It's great just the in-studio moments when they're just talking about the year and not really talking about anything are the greatest. It's just Paul F. Tompkins being Paul F. Tompkins. Some people call him Paul F. Tompkins. That's how it's pronounced.

I just didn't know if our listeners knew. Like William Hamesi. Same thing. I thought it was Paul F. Tom listening. Yeah, like William Hamesi. Yeah, right. Same thing. I thought it was Palf Tompkins. Oh, right. Yeah, that is an excusing way of Paul. It's Palf. Palf Tompkins.

Hi, Palf Tompkins. Good to meet you. Great to meet you. Sorry, Palf? When we do have him on, that's how we will pronounce it. And the whole time waiting for him to be like, is this a joke? Or are you guys stupid? And finally, Wayne, what is a myth?

What's something people think is true? Here's a myth that fast food will kill you. All right. And let me tell you my canary in the coal mine. Is that the correct metaphor? Sure. Probably. It's a gentleman by the name of, he's one of the richest guys in the world.

He has a, I don't know why I'm blanking on his name. I want to say Buffett. Warren Buffett. Warren Buffett. Loves McDonald's, huh? Eats it every day. Eats it every day. Every morning. If there's anyone who has an incentive to be healthy and stay around, it's Warren Buffett.

Mr. Omaha, Nebraska himself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I drove by his house when I was in Omaha. How'd it look? It's very normal. Humble. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's a big house or whatever, but not like where you're like, oh my goodness,

this estate, this palatial manor. No, I know it's like neighbors. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, I drove my friend who was like, you want to see Warren Buffett's house? And we went and I was like, cool. We can throw rocks at it. Do you think you could drive by Gates' house or Bezos? No.

I mean, Mark Zuckerberg specifically bought all the houses around his house. Because somebody was thinking about building something that would have been able to see into a part of his house. And so he was like, nah. It's like a common practice for the wealthy. It's called the buffer zone of just buying properties around. And yet Buffett does not value the buffer zone. This is the no buff zone. Wait, what's his thing?

McDonald's every morning? Every morning. Breakfast. I think the McMuffin. He's just like he values these certain things. That's kind of what he's great at is finding value. It's basically by doing a lot of math and reading every newspaper right he that's what i'm saying but if you talk to people people are like i would

never eat that poison i'm right well oh he's doing okay he's doing fine and yeah coca-cola is like one of his big picks that he invested in way back right and he makes tons of money on it wow and he drinks five of those a day. Yeah. Coca-Cola with and he brings a little bottle. You know all about this. Yeah. It's amazing. I'm a big fan. Brings a little bottle of like cherry syrup around with him and like pours it in. Oh, what? Just like very

old-fashioned. Turns up his Coke? Yeah, yeah. Wow. I mean, that's good news for Donald Trump, I guess, who also loves McDonald's and Coke. By cherry syrup, I mean whiskey. We know. You guys got it. It's promethazine, actually. It's Sizzurp. All right, guys.

There's a lot going on right now, and we have to get into the news. Not since Axl Rose attacked Tommy Hilfiger have I been this uninvested but morbidly curious about a fist fight. Wait, Axl Rose fought Tommy Hilfiger? Yeah, at a club like in the early 2000s for some reason. It was like when you hadn't heard of Axl Rose in a long time and then somebody showed a

picture of him and he had cornrows. Oh, yeah. I remember that. Oh, wow. Anyways, Tom Arnold got into a fight with reality maven, magnate Mark Burnett. Yeah. Who is the producer of The Apprentice and

what else? Shark Tank, Survivor He also produced that show a couple years back where the Antichrist was played by an Obama lookalike and everyone was like huh, that's interesting Yeah, well they ran

into each other at an Emmy fundraiser party. And, you know, Tom Arnold has that show on Viceland where he's trying to get the tapes, basically, where suddenly we're going to be surprised if we hear Trump talking like a racist or behaving like a racist or a general miscreant. But it's always good to have their physical receipts so anyone who wants to deny can look it in the eye. But, yeah, apparently they saw each other. But it's always good to have their physical receipts. So anyone who wants to deny can look it in the eye. But yeah, apparently they saw each other. They got to tussling, I guess. Literally, he was tweeting stuff about like, yeah, his torn pink shirt and like missing gold chain, whatever.

He's like, I'm going to go to the police. The LAPD said we have no incident on file or he is clearly not filed a report with us. But the other interesting thing is that Tom Arnold's like, yeah, Kevin Bacon was a witness. It's got has like it almost it's a parody of itself. But the whole thing's kind of getting weird. I get Tom Arnold has a show going on, but it's just kind of funny to me. And also now he's like retweeting so many things about how Mark Burnett is actually connected to Putin and things like that. And he was before, right? That's been a theory.

They were. Well, yeah, he was apparently in talks with first making a show about some kind of like space program, like having to do with Russian astronauts. Right. And then he had another show. Cosmonauts. Cosmonauts. Some kind of correction.

Just seeing it. Yeah, whatever. Space guys. And then he wanted to do another show that was like humanizing like these like really wild government leaders like fidel castro and putin was what person he wanted to show and was saying like i just want to show that emphasized you know it's devoid of armies and politics rather it would focus on quote the humans the nature the animals of the nation uh so i mean that would have been pretty cool to see a humanizing show about putin but you know weird i really wish i could see how this boiled over was just him being like in his

face with probably getting in his face with the camera being like well i assume hey when you're gonna put the tapes out i assume his show is based on brunette releasing these tapes like what else the whole point yeah yeah is there gonna be an editor that he's trying to? I don't know. Wasn't Tom Arnold on Celebrity Apprentice? He was. Yeah. And that's what he's basing it on, that his experience of overhearing Trump.

And he knows they're recorded. Right. And Mark Burnett, I mean, he's a Trump fan, so he's refusing to release those tapes. Because of the Putin thing? How are you drawing that conclusion? Well, he's adam Trump fan, so he's refusing to release those tapes. Because of the Putin thing? How are you drawing that conclusion? Well, he's adamant about not releasing those tapes. And I feel like clearly they have some kind of relationship. They worked closely on The Apprentice.

I mean, Mark Burnett was already huge in reality, but I mean, The Apprentice really- Yeah, Survivor. I feel like Survivor was the one, right? Yeah, it was the one that everyone was going crazy for. And that was known for basically the photography where the sky would move really fast. Yeah. Those time lapse. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, okay. I remember that joke. And people became more and more emaciated and tan over time. Right. It was always fun to look at what they look like at the beginning of the show, and then by the end, they're just like super sunburned and like real thin.

Yeah. But there's a midpoint where they look great. And that's where they really make that one. That's called the survivor's starvation sweet spot. Yeah. That there's a midpoint where they look great. And that's where they really make that win. That's called the survivor's starvation sweet spot. Yeah. That survivor glow up. No word on who won this fight? I mean, honestly, they both lose for getting in a fight.

And Triple G lost. Right. And Triple G lost. And Triple G. That was the coolest fight, huh? I didn't watch it. I did not watch it either. I was at a soccer game, and I just heard people getting, like, some people screaming.

Wait, you sure it's not a match? Soccer match. No, you're right. No, you're right. What is going on? Is this your first time? I Americanize the stuff for people because I say football or whatever, and they don't know what it's talking about.

He actually has a thick British accent. But I have to hide. He's just hiding it. I'm trying to sound more American. Because I like they call it the pitch, right? Right. Yeah, the pitch. There's no field.

No, it's the pitch. It's the pitch. Okay, okay. So I'm sorry. I'm a jerk. Go ahead. No, no, no. no it's the pitch it's okay okay so i'm sorry i'm a jerk go ahead no no and it was uh i mean i just saw what the actual announcement was but i could there were people like watching in the stands like people were doing the funny thing of like friends were watching on pay-per-view and then they were just facetiming the screen for them so they were at the game like watching and there's no way to get around that right no there's

absolutely no way that is the great pay. Pay-per-view-wise? Yeah, they don't know how you're using your private stream of communication. Yeah, but I saw people do it on Facebook. Yeah, those ones tend to get taken down because it's more public versus just my phone to your phone. No one's there to really monitor that. Peer-to-peer, if you will. Peer-to-peer, yes. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Do you think that a tape coming out of Trump saying the N, they would hold their feet to the fire. But I think it would have to be so bad that the GOP finally finds their spine and they're like, okay, we can't just embrace this uranium rod and just die from exposure to it. He's radioactive, but I don't think it's going to change anything just the same way. I don't think if the pee tape was real and came out, I don't think people would care about that either. Yeah. What would that be? It would be him watching people pee on a bed yeah who knows i feel like that aesthetically would be just like un aesthetic them yeah aesthetically would just be uninteresting whereas if you had a tape of him because everybody who's heard him speak on the side of the apprentice areice are like, holy shit. This guy's just like a monster.

He's just constantly saying the most objectionable things just conversationally. I feel like in the context of him just unleashing this stream of horrifying words, it's not just going to be a tape of him saying the word out of context. No, you're going to get a whole thing. Yeah, you're going to get a whole thing of him just sounding like a really bad person. I'm with Tom Arnold. I'm Team Arnold on this one. On what? On the fight?

Yeah. On beating up? On beating up Mark Burnett. Okay, sure. And also on getting that tape. On assault. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Team assault. Yep. Yes. Did you hear about the peanut that was going through the park? What's that? One was assaulted. All right. So there was.

And there's no way to get that back, right? That can't be edited out. Nope. Nope. That's committed. I would be dragged. I would be dragged on the internet for that. But I think on one level, though, if the tape does come out, it's harder for people to deny

his racism. Of course. So there's that. But, you know, this guy is on tape saying stuff that he grabs women by the pussy, and that didn't do anything. And he's been credibly accused of all kinds of things, and yet the people who are supposed to check his power. Here's the crazy thing is, I don't know if you guys are old enough to remember this, but there was a presidential candidate named Howard Dean. He was the governor of, I believe, no, I think of New Hampshire. Was it Vermont or New Hampshire?

It was Vermont? Yes. Okay, and he literally was leading, and then like the mic. He said, ah. Yeah, he just screamed, and the mic, you know, they caught the room mic. I mean, the actual mic as opposed to the room mic, and it sounded crazy, and that was the end of his

We're going to Michigan! And we're going to Washington D.C. to take the White House! And everyone was like, dude, get this guy the fuck out of here. You can't be president. I remember, yeah, because it was right around the time I had, this was like the second election

I was able to vote in, so I was like pretty checked in. And yeah, I remember being like the second election I was able to vote in so I was like pretty checked in and yeah and I remember being like that was funny like it's he sounded literally disqualified somebody did a binders full of women comment that Mitt Romney did that he took a huge ding for that right somebody did a recounting of the sort of dean uh roar heard around the world and interviewed people who were in the room who like didn't hear him scream at all. It was just like,

he like basically made a sound that wouldn't have sounded loud in person, but he like made it real close to the mic. And so it just sounded really crazy. And it was also like the crowd was really loud, but you couldn't hear the crowd. Yeah. And I mean, cause he started getting into that wrestler like tone it was a little bit more than

like and we're gonna go to michigan and blah blah it was like you know no he was definitely like i love it feeling the uh feeling the crowd's energy yeah and it's but that's where we are we're saying that's where we're how quickly we've shifted where that used to be an ender. I move on her like a bitch and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And people are like, well, that could be fake or I don't know. It's locker room talk. This guy just went, ah!

And we're like, no. No. You're unstable, sir. I do wonder if because the response to the pussy grabbing tape was such that it was like, oh, wow, I guess a lot of people talk like that still because people were like, oh, that's locker room talk. And people are just like, yeah, OK, good with that. But I don't think a lot of people use the N-word casually.

Like, that seems like more of an outlier. No, no, I mean, you are definitely not going to be able to spin that. Right. I mean, unless you're in the locker room of like the KKK. Go on, Tom Arnold. Let's do it. Let's find that tape. All right.

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And we're back. And the Brett Kavanaugh vote confirmation got a little more interesting. It was smooth sailing just a few days ago. Somehow. So over the weekend, well, I guess multiple weeks ago, I guess it was back in July, Senator Feinstein got an anonymous letter from somebody who recounted being sexually assaulted by Brett Kavanaugh in high school. And then that person finally came forward and said who she was.

Oh, we're going to see this. Yeah. She's going to testify. She's going to. There's no other way. Her name is Christine Blasey Ford. Yeah. Is that Blasey?

Yeah. I think, yeah. Forgive us if we mispronounce that. Blasey is a dope name. This is going to be high political drama. Yes. Yeah. Right?

I mean, literally, this nominee is in the balance. This is the only disqualifier could be if she seems credible enough. Right, and she took a lie detector test, which we know lie detector tests can be a little bit iffy scientifically. When you say we, what do you mean by that?

Huh? When you said we know. Just in general, that the idea of polygraph tests. I think some people do. Alright, you said we know. Just in general, that the idea of polygraph tests. I think some people do. All right. You said we. Okay. Do you feel that polygraph tests are 100%? I don't know.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. I don't like being spoken for. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm not speaking for you. But I think people have publicly disputed lie detector tests. Not to say that that means that she's lying. Right.

But she's clearly here to show that she's being as honest as possible she has nothing to gain from this she's clearly this is only going to be something that is going to be traumatic for her because as you've seen like people already doxing her uh and trying to tear her down i think there's been some senators who've said well why did it take so long right which is the most the dumbest fucking way to question somebody who's coming out with this kind of thing but yeah now it's gotten to the point where people like lindsey graham or jeff flake they're starting to be like well we this person we should probably hear from this person at this point how do you not want to hear from i mean up until this point i thought

they were gonna just bury it yeah because chuck grassley seemed in no way interested there was that weird letter that came out from 65 women that had gone to high school with, but when they dug deeper, they weren't all from the same high school. Right. So it was just like this. Well, he went to an all-boys high school, correct? Right. Right.

So just people he— So a lot of guys have transitioned since then. That or, yeah, or these were people they paid. Very good. I'm endorsing that. Yeah. And now it's to the point where, yeah, there are many calls from, you know, just a couple GOP senators, but most of the Dems.

Somebody has to know. I mean, somebody has, I'm not talking about senators, but there's got to be some kid who remembers that party or. Right. Right. It's not that long ago. No. I mean, it was 36 years ago.

It was. Right. 36 years ago. No, I mean, it was 36 years ago. It was, right, 36 years ago. But I mean, it is clearly a traumatic event in her past that she has, you know, that her life has had to be oriented around. You know, it's like in the way that all traumas

sort of change how we live our lives. And like, that's the question I have is she goes up, she says, this is something that happened to me me I've been dealing with it for decades I was in therapy when I first talked about it like to my husband uh six years ago and specifically called him out and then he's gonna come out and say uh no that didn't happen but uh like my drunken recollection of it is better than her like actual recollection of it. Well, at first he said this absolutely false. And then he's like, but then the person came forward,

which seems to me that he does remember this person in some manner. Oh, okay. He said, so his latest quote though is, I'm willing to talk to the Senate Judiciary Committee in any way the committee deems appropriate to refute this false allegation from 36 years ago and defend my integrity. Which I think it's interesting that he chose to throw in the from 36 years ago just because it seems like that is going to be one of the attacks they take is to say, well, why now? Why are you doing this now? Is to say, well, why now?

Why are you doing this now? Well, I know. Yeah. I think a lot of people, at least from the White House, would rather not have her testify in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee because they're like optically their people are going to be sympathetic. Yeah, no shit. Yeah. But like this person, Kellyanne Conway, surprisingly, was like, I think the woman should be heard. Right. Which I can't imagine any other avenue.

Yeah. I can't imagine any other avenue. Yeah, but the Republicans have been so brazen through this process throughout the time that I wouldn't have been surprised if Chuck Grassley, considering that there were so many documents that they chose to suppress, then be like, no, no, no, it's been too late. They should have brought it up sooner. It doesn't matter what this person went through. And even though this is a lifetime appointment for someone who could possibly shift the legal landscape of this country, let's just get it done. Yeah. They're being quiet now because they're waiting to see if they can get away with just pushing them through.

Yeah, they could. No one could outright right now just say no to, I mean, Chuck Grassley kind of did say, well, this is really late in the game, but well, you know, I think it's something that definitely has to be heard. And it's, you know, people were showing like, just sort of when you look at what the majority looks like for the Senate Judiciary Committee, it's all men. There's not even a woman on there. And, of course, their sentiments are going to – they're focused on getting this – for the majority on the Republicans. Oh, for the Republicans.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So he was meeting at the White House earlier today. We're recording this on Monday. He was meeting, he was sweating. Yeah, it's interesting because there's no good version of this. It has nothing to do with what he's, he's going to deny it. Right.

It's all about if there's a third thing. Yeah, that's why it sucks so hard for her. This is like, I mean, to have to relive your trauma on the most national stage. Like Anita Hill was like turned into like a punchline slash, you know, she's like a household name because she had a similar situation. And this is like a private trauma that this person has chosen to, you know, come forward with and not really even chosen because she wanted to remain anonymous, but then she started, as she was leaving class, a BuzzFeed reporter approached her. It seemed like only a matter of time before her name came out.

Unmasked. Yeah. Yeah. And then there was the other man that she implicated in her allegation was there was a classmate who like then turned the music up. Also a famous conservative figure. Yeah, right. And like wrote a –

What does he say? Well, he's already – like they were going through just his sort of general stance on things. And he's tried to discredit past people who have accused men of sexual assault. So he's kind of firmly rooted in like the, well, they don't know, blah, blah, blah. And he has like a book that is like called like Wasted, of a gen x drunk or something like that where there's like a pseudonym like there's a guy called bart o'cavanaugh so he's openly like a recovered alcoholic or a recovering alcoholic who was like yeah during my high school years like i was constantly blacked out and you know but yeah he has these stories of a guy whose name is what?

Bart O'Kavanaugh. There's a mention of Bart O'Kavanaugh in this book. It says, Shag scored a hit, then handed me the glass. I drank. If you were standing anywhere near a quarters game, you could get picked even if you don't want to play or weren't paying attention. So how do you like prep? Mary asked. It's cool.

Do you know Bart O'Kavanaugh? Yeah, he's around here somewhere. I heard he puked in someone's car the other night. Yeah, he passed out on his way back from a party. So, I mean, I don't know what that means, but I think, I don't know if Brett Kavanaugh can say, oh, I don't know anything. I've never done anything like that. I've never done anything illegal, I think is one of the things.

Or I think Judge, the friend who turned up the music. Aaron Judge? Yeah, Aaron Judge. No, I think is one of the things, or I think Judge, the friend who turned up the music. Aaron Judge? Yeah, Aaron Judge. No, I think it's Mark Judge. Oh, okay, I'm sorry. I'm not following it close enough. Is Aaron Judge the baseball player? Baseball player, yes.

I was like, wow. The Yankees, yeah. So Mark Judge was saying something about, like, I didn't know him to engage in these sorts of illegal behaviors. But at that time, like in the high school yearbook, Kavanaugh was voted treasurer of the Keg City Club or I don't know. This is what his yearbook said. So maybe this was just like a funny like an inside joke, but treasurer of the Keg City Club, 100 kegs or bust. Like something to do with Beach Week Committee,

which Beach Week is just where all these prep school, like privileged kids go to the beach from the D.C. area and just get wasted for a week. And also like something with the police in Rehoboth, which is where the Beach Week happens. So, you know, I mean, whatever. I just think at the very least, the Republicans have to allow this person to be heard and properly just at some level have this process, have some kind of shred of respectability to it.

Because the steamrolling thing we saw, it was like all this other stuff had to get unearthed. Cory Booker was like threatening this other stuff had to get unearthed cory booker was like threatening to release documents that were you mean classified yeah right this is the closest i'll get to my spartacus moment you don't say that you just you just have the moment are you wearing a booker 2020 t-shirt uh yeah and i just think you know that this point it's i mean not nice but you it's good to see that there are some people on the right that are showing some shred of decency to be like, not just do the thing that I thought they were going to do,

which would be like ignore it, ignore it, ignore it. They can't do that. But, you know, I'm sure if the White House, if they were going to play it the way they wanted to, they would probably just try and obscure this move on. Or what they'll do is just try and smear her, which is usually what happens. You're saying move on from me too. Move on from me too. Move on from me too.

Yes, there you go. And, you know, Kellyanne Conway, I think you were just referring to was... She's the hero. She's like the voice of reason in this case, which is crazy. But she was saying like, don't attack her. Don't insult her.

Let's let her speak. Well, anyone with a, you know... Yeah. And I mean, even Trump seems to be somewhat reasonable on this because he said, and I'm sure somebody had to sit him down and direct him with shiny objects and treats, that this was what he had to say. that if it needs to be delayed, it needs to be delayed. So he's acknowledging it's a serious thing. And actually, it looks like they are now saying that they will both testify on Monday, so a week from yesterday. So yeah, it will officially be delayed.

So that's good, at least that they're not trying to just jam it in under the wire. Well, I mean, they couldn't. Like we were saying, it's literally the least you can do when something like this comes up, especially when, you know, with Al Franken, they were very quick to just believe the accusers and move forward with it. At the very least, they need to extend Trump is sort of waging a civil rights battle against women, just using sort of the tools of the zeitgeist like ideas and just the way like the language he uses um so nussbaum was talking about uh just sort of disgust as an emotion in the context of uh how people use it as like around political fear and she pointed out that there's like a long history using disgust to subjugate

people. It's easy to forget that there are like visceral aspects of racism from before and during the civil rights movement in America with white people thinking people of color were like less clean. And this is why they made them eat and drink in different physical locations and use different bathrooms. Like that wasn't just a, a way to make their lives less convenient. Um, they were, you know, the idea of sharing a bathroom was like grossed them out.

And then more recently, America has seen this with like gay rights. Like I remember in the early two thousands, uh, Dave Chappelle joke that was just, he was like, gay sex is gross to me right i don't have anything against it it's just gross and everyone laughed and it's just like yeah you

can't yeah and then you know in other countries uh india's caste system they have a whole caste that is the untouchables and they're deemed untouchable because they're viewed as like dirty and unsanitary and she pointed out anyways that Trump uses language and just sort of his whole attitude towards women. He refers to them like women who are unattractive as disgusting and focuses on their bleeding, both with regards to their menstrual cycle and with Megyn Kelly or Mika Brzezinski's uh recovery from surgery is like she was leaking blood out of her face right and like all sorts of hillary clinton like the the fact that she took a

bathroom break during the debates was like made a big deal of and like any illnesses or like frailty like he made a big deal of and it's just like using these visceral ideas and emotions to, I don't know, other women in a way that seems kind of retrograde and shockingly... Did you listen to this podcast? Yeah, yeah. And did it resonate with you? Yeah, yeah, totally. I mean, I wonder if...

I don't know if he's sophisticated enough to know that and use his rhetoric to do that more than he's a germaphobe and doesn't respect women. And so that's how he's going to talk. But that's the effect. Right. You know what I mean? Because I could see how also knowing like his like germaphobia, how he would think someone going to the bathroom is just like so gross. He he seems like someone who's like, oh, my God, the person went to the right. What do they're going to get near me? Yeah. Like poo all over them or something. I don't know. Like he's just uh yeah weird guy he's got a lot of interesting tactics that he doesn't even know what he's doing and they're working right yeah

you think they're working i mean i think with his base i think for sure because the a lot of these people i there is a lot of overlap in the way they will even then refer to these people or the reasons that they use to discredit them. I meant more like with the independents and stuff. Oh, no, I don't think so. I mean, I think clearly now at this point, his rhetoric has split people into the people who will just believe anything and the people who are repulsed have probably at this point been repulsed. I don't know. I'm curious. after the Access Hollywood tape came out, there was a group, like the New Yorker profiled this town in Colorado where this huge women for Trump movement sprung up.

And it actually started the day after the Access Hollywood tape because they didn't want to be told by the media how they should feel about women's roles and whether that was okay or have their own morality policed. So I think things are turning into a way that it's more clearly defined like women against this kind of thinking.

But he's clearly tapped into something. And it just seems like the record number of women candidates in the 2018 midterms, the Women's March, the Me Too movement. And then now with the Kavanaugh thing, it just seems like we're really polarizing around this way Trump views women versus like the way women would prefer to be viewed. Wayne, do you think that it's that his rhetoric is bringing in more independence? Because you seem a little skeptical. I am a little skeptical.

I'm not sure. I mean, I looked, you know, I just saw a thing where he was like gaining with Hispanic voters and he's gaining with African-American voters. And I'm like, I'm not just because I live in like anti-Trump land. Like that's where I live. So I'm always like, all right, let me just try to look outside that a little bit. And, you know, I'm not in any way like super political you know but i was just like i look at his you know he's still in the 40s you know for the most

part and so i'm just shocked again right howard dean like you know it's like so i'm like i'm just not quite so sure and he's also like those people that are against uh abortion are solid you know they're locked yeah they're one issue for yeah and there's a lot those people that are against abortion are solid. You know, they're locked in. Yeah, they're one issue to the end of time. Yeah, and there's a lot of people who are for, you know, choice, and they're locked in already. Right. So what I'm talking about is those people in the middle that are just like, oh, this is the way my, you know. Yeah, well, I think those people are probably going to be brought in with other issues that aren't so tied. Like, I think Medicare has been the biggest thing that other people have kind of come around to.

I mean, he beat Hillary Clinton. You know what I mean? And all of this, there's nothing new that's really come out other than since then. And everyone I know thought it was just, like, horrible. There's no possible way. Well, I think that was, yeah, because conventional thinking around how these elections would work were like,

oh, this guy has way too many negatives against him. That'll probably affect the electorate. And then you realize that his sort of pseudo-populism thing he was doing to run was resonating. Again, all these things this lady's talking about, I don't know if that necessarily, again, will translate. Yeah. I don't know if it's Nussbaum. I think it's, yeah, it's Nussbaum.

Yeah, it's Nussbaum. And I think it was just a useful way of understanding the dynamic of how his language works. And also, I think his daughter is very popular. Yeah. I really think she is a big part of his success, to tell you the truth. Yeah. Well, that's why I think they're trying to deploy her in as many districts for the midterms, too. Oh, they are? Yeah, because they know with him, he's kind of a third rail,

but they can, in certain races, other times he can go and people are going to turn out. But also, getting her into the suburbs is sort of, I think, something that I've read, too, that she's more effective in the suburbs with more educated people than having Trump. So I just don't think it's, again, I don't know why we're talking politics with me,

but that's just my feeling, just kind of looking at it as the overall, like, maybe. I mean, he could beat Hillary Clinton. That's a pretty big machine that he was able to beat. So, yeah. I think, yeah, we'll see. These midterms will be very indicative of what the temperature is. Based on everything we're seeing, just with enthusiasm, like even without taking the results into it, there's more enthusiasm on the left than there is on the right.

Right, flesh. And so – But that's a – yeah, yeah. And I think that's the problem is a lot of people stayed home in the presidential election too because there was this thinking that like, well, like you thought too, this guy's not going to fucking win. 90% chance that – Yeah, there were a lot of people who thought it was just a foregone conclusion and that clearly wasn wasn't people who weren't paying attention to 538 uh but i think i do think that you guys are deep dive i don't know is it gonna be this political i like it yeah well we'd like to you know we've got to take the temperature back i do think that his relationship with his daughter

if anything is an indictment of his overall like inability to view women as any like full human being because he has that like just weird always talking about how hot she is and how like attractive she is always talking about he says he says it enough that i don't think i know it's weird i will give you that yeah i'll give you that all right it's weird it's weird but i do think she is a- No, she's the- I feel like the one- A deflector shield a little bit, right?

Yes. Yeah. But not- A little bit. I don't know. To some people, I think most people can kind of see through it because as a mother, they look at half the policies and they're like, how could you look at this? Like the family separation thing, it took her so long to come out and say anything against

it that they're just sort of like, well, you do what is the most advantageous for the administration rather than whatever her values are. But we'll see how it works. This is deep. Love it. If you like her so much, elect her to public office, guys.

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And on Friday, a gentleman named Randy Credico with Dog in Toe, the Washington Post specified, testified about his relationship with Roger Stone before a grand jury. This guy is very interesting. He's a comedian. He's also an associate of Roger Stone, also an associate of Julian Assange. Just this very weird mixture of, like, he's also a radio host, so he's sort of this mixture of political activist, commentator. He's a Facebook friend of mine.

Facebook friend of Wayne's, most importantly. I didn't want to leave that to last. Of course. Some of the details of... Well, first of all, for people who don't know, what they are interested in is they see him as possibly being the connective tissue between WikiLeaks and Roger Stone. Right. Yeah.

And then he was in there denying that, right? Or he won't say, right? He won't say. Oh, wait, what happened? So he came out and the press started asking him? So he comes out, the press- Out of the testimony, right. Out of testifying in front of Mueller. And the press asked how much of the questioning

dealt with Assange. And he answered very little and was about to elaborate. And then his lawyer just said, don't. And that was it. So that was the end of that. Right. don't. And that was it. So that was the end of that. Just one detail that I love so much about he and Roger Stone's relationship. So one of the messages they have on file is Roger Stone sending him a text. By the way, Roger Stone, very down to earth. Yes. Very guy next door. Normal guy with a Nixon back tattoo. He texted Randy Credico, I am so ready. Let's get it on. Prepare to die, cocksucker.

Now, the circumstances of that text are amazing because Credico says it was when he found out that he was going to testify in front of the grand jury. Testifying, you know, testifying in front of the grand jury. And Roger Stone's version was that he had just learned that Credico had cancer and was depressed about it. And he was telling him to get ready to die cocksucker because that's just how he like treats his friends. Right. The reason is Roger Stone hears that Credico has something that contradicts everything that Roger Stone's been been saying publicly right he gets a text i'm so ready let's get it on prepared to die to cocksucker what happened roger oh he said he had terminal cancer right that's why that seems far-fetched right a little bit i don't know but that could be roger stone's uh trademark humor that's so nihilistic and morbid yes uh and credico was like uh i don't have cancer i that's so nihilistic and morbid. Yes. And Credico was like, I don't have cancer. That's not true.

None of this is true. So you're Facebook friends with Credico? I've known him since the 80s. He's a character. Before he was political, he was just a comedian. Right. And very good impressionist. Yeah.

Like, really good. Really? Yeah, yeah. That's what I thought. I never heard him do his bit but i remember reading things where he was warning the lawyers he's like hey i do voices and i might do it during my testimony it's just my thing and i was like this is gonna be amazing yeah no he he was really he was really he was on the a-list if i'm not saying that i think he did

the tonight show in the 80s with johnny kirk Carson, with the big gets for the young comedians at that time. But even I think at that point he was starting to – he was going after Reagan and all of that. Right. Yeah. One of my favorite impressions of his was he used to do an incredible David Brenner. I don't know if you know who that is. You don't. No.

I don't think so, no. He's – I know Yul Brenner. Yes, yes. Not in no relationship. So he used to do that, and he would do like Archie Bunker and Edith Bunker and that kind of thing. So...

And then the next thing you know, he's like, oh, Wayne, I'm going to El Salvador or Nicaragua and write material for the head of... Not the Contras, the other guy. The Sandinistas? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you mean right material? Like do come to help that guy politically. Ortega, I think that guy's name was.

Oh, shit. I think that guy's name was Daniel Ortega. I know that's in my head. I'm not looking it up. And so he went down there and would do rallies for him and help him with his campaign. For dictators. Yeah, yeah.

Well, he became very left. He's like a lefty like left left yeah and then uh but he does some good stuff like you know like these draconian drug laws that gets yeah you know people or uh you know non-violent drug offenders and stuff like that he's very he's very passionate he's very funny and he's just a weirdo he's just a weird he's a comedian it's just the weirdest political activist i've ever when you saw his name kind of start bubbling up in the news were you kind of like of course of course yeah right and it's literally every comedian just knows him as credico no one calls him randy yeah yeah it's like credico of course credico of course he's going to be on the muller investigation right somehow you know the same guy trying to get on Evening at the Improv is like, it's insane.

It's insane that I know that. Can you imagine he starts doing material about testifying in the Mueller probe? It's like, this guy's Mueller materials. But I will say he is consistent. He's not one of those, like, just if it's a Democrat or it doesn't matter to him. Right. He's like. No, it seems like he's very like principled and what his beliefs are.

And he had, you know, he had a drug problem himself and it's, right. Credico. Credico. He's Credico. I just love that he testified in front of a grand jury and had to bring a dog.

Right. Like he's like, Hey, I got to bring a dog. Classic Credico. Did he travel with a dog a lot? No, no,

this is new. This makes sense. This is a, this is a new thing. I, I, I heard that he rescued that dog from

Chile. He's just a world traveler. I don't know how he has a passport at this point, but one of the articles... I really admire that guy. He's funny. He's actually a funny... It's just so weird, this overlap now. I actually think he has that

obsessive compulsive disorder is my take on it. Sure. He's just like, once he's fixated on it, he can't let it go. Right, right. Yeah. But I love the guy. I love the guy. One of the sources that we are using for research on Credico uses this photograph that is just this real buttoned up public hearing.

And then a really screen accurate a screen accurate Greek philosopher. Like just, he's got this like long white beard. He looks like Gandalf the White, just with a lantern walking through the thing. And it says, Mr. Credico, dressed as the Greek philosopher Diogenes Duranes. The cynic. He's the one who founded the cynic philosophy.

Right. So yeah. And very layered. I would say that the thing that seems to connect him stone and julian assange is cynicism right and in some cases very justified cynicism miles yes a new study has found four distinct personality types and i'm fucking excited well you know there's the myers-br thing which is bullshit why are you saying it's bullshit it's so it wasn't

is it Briggs? it's Myers oh it's Myers okay it was uh it's just there's been a lot of like psychology and psychological literature around the fact that there's no real scientific basis it was more of a business thing that they created

around to be like, oh, this is going to be great for... But I remember even during Myers-Briggs, there was another competing psychological stuff. I think this is a never-ending battle to try and put humanity into buckets, and that's it. We realize it becomes increasingly

harder to do, but what's funny is that this study was actually conducted by a person who is a, like avowed Myers-Briggs, like cynically, he's a hater of it and realizes like, does that affect your opinion about what you're going to hear about this? Well, I guess the, the, one of the reasons that sort of makes this different is that he, this person isn't claiming that everyone falls into one of these four types, like the Myers-Briggs, like you're one of these 16 things. It's more the idea that people cluster into these four areas.

And it's like he doesn't want people to think that that's what they're saying. It's just that you're finding people begin to concentrate around, it's distributed. He calls it more of lumps in the batter, has an analogy to look at it. Like they're not separate. Do you think it's interesting that they're both, that it's like four and 16?

Like it's four times four. Oh, yeah. Interesting. Four squared. Yeah. That's the way I think about it. Yeah. You're a big math guy then, huh?

Yeah. Yeah. You start seeing the matrix. Numerology. Numerology. You can see my apartment is just on the glass. What does it all mean? What does it all mean? But yeah.

The other thing that makes me less suspicious of this is that- Less suspicious. Less suspicious, or the thing that makes me less suspicious of this, other than that his main problem with Myers-Briggs is that it's not scientific and he's using actual data on this. Data that he stole from, not stole, but got from Facebook surveys and shit like that. Can I ask you just a couple questions? Sure.

Has this been published? Has this been peer reviewed? Is this any of that stuff? Or is this just a guy with an article? It's a new paper in nature human behavior. So it's like, it's rigorous. It's a replicable study. So yeah, this isn't just so guys.

That's what I'm just asking. And the other thing I was going to say is that the personality types are pretty boring. Like they're not telling you anything. It's not gobbled. Let me hear the four. Buckle up, Wayne. Buckle up, Wayne. Let me hear the four.

Number one is average. Wait, what is that? Average. These people score high in neuroticism and extroversion, but score low in openness in terms of like being open to different points of view i guess it is the most typical category with women being more likely than men to fit into it to be average yes sounds like a trump thing you would say about a woman go keep going reserved this type of person is stable emotionally without being especially open or neurotic they tend to score

lower on extroversion but tend to be somewhat agreeable and conscientious. Wait, are you saying someone reserved is not extroverted? That's crazy. Do you believe this? I'm saying you sure are peer-reviewed. Yeah. Wow. This is insane.

Role models. Insane by stating the obvious. Keep going. It's also weird because there is, it's like a, this is a good one. This is the bad one. Like, cause role models is one. These people score high in every trade except neuroticism, and the likelihood that someone fits into this category

increases dramatically as they age. Which I also like, that it makes room for people changing. There's not this fatalistic, you are this person, and that's just how you're going to go through life. It's like, no, you can adapt and mellow out and learn things. Then it says these are the people who are dependable and open to new ideas. They're good people to have in charge of things. Women are more likely than men to be role models.

As well as reserved. Yes. Role models and average, I think, is what we've learned. So men are more likely to be reserved and the fourth type, self-centered. These people score very high in extroversion. You don't have to look at me when you say that. Very unfair. I just met you.

But yes, that did cut a little close to the bone. But score low in openness, agreeableness, and conscientiousness. Oh, you made it. Most teenage boys would fall into this category, which I also like that. That like, yeah, we're acknowledging that, you know, we all sucked as teenage boys. We suck as a fucking 34-year-old man. We're talking about you, Mr. Kavanaugh. Right.

The number of people who fall into this category decreases dramatically with age. Decreases. Decreases. Self-centered yeah which i think yeah more they become a little but you know when suddenly you like you get a hip replacement right yeah you realize yeah maybe i'm not invincible right exactly maybe i will hold the handrail when i go down the stairs right but lumps in the batter is also a good characterization batter is a terrible metaphor because it's so like nebulous even then it's. I feel like lumps in the batter is a terrible metaphor.

Because it's so nebulous even then. It's just like, it's lumps in the batter. I'm not saying you're one of these things. You're a lump. It seems like the batter is the biggest part of that. That's a good point. Yeah, but there's just lumps. I think that's why they're saying it's harder to do what the Myers-Briggs is just saying.

You fit in one of these things. And they're just saying, these are four basic things that people are usually near or around. But basically everyone's just floating in this batter soup? In a way, yes. I mean, the way they put it is they say, just to think of how people tend to concentrate in cities in the United States. So if you divide the country into four regions and then look at how population density is distributed, you'll likely find the highest concentration of people living are in dense cities.

And they're saying they're describing, quote, what we're describing is the likelihood of being at certain parts of that distribution. We're not saying that everyone is in one of the four categories. Just as a model of how human behavior tends to look over in big groups, I think lumps in the batter seems accurate. It's not like claiming, okay, and then you're in this bucket or this bucket. Some of your batter could be touching some of these.

You might be in between lumps. You might just be batter. I stand corrected. I thought it was a horrible metaphor, and now I'm coming around. But I think there's a fifth personality type. It's actually a speck, so there is a fifth personality type. There's a fifth lump. It's actually a speck, but it has a lot of gravitational pull.

It is Mark Wahlberg. So we have learned over the weekend, Mark Wahlberg has shared his daily routine with the world, and it is fucking bonkers. What is going on with him? What time does he wake up? He wakes up at 2.30 a.m. Praise for a little bit. Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold does he wake up? At 2.30 a.m. He wakes up at 2.30 a.m. It doesn't say what time he goes

to sleep? It does not. Already I'm skeptical. Praise at 2.45 for a half hour. For a half hour? It's intense. Do you know what kind of religion he is? Christian. Very, very Christian. What is he, Catholic, bro? What are you, Catholic, bro? Have you heard of this of religion he is? Christian. Very, very Christian. What, is he Catholic, bro?

What are you, Catholic, bro? What are you, Catholic, bro? Have you heard of this guy, the Pope? Yeah, have you heard of this, bro? You accept the Eucharist, bro? That is one of the strangest facts that I think we will look back on in history is he introduced the Pope. When the Pope visited America for the first time, Mark Wahlberg is who introduced him to America. Well, he is known for those underwear ads.

Right. So there's a connection. Both of them. We know those guys. And at 3.15. Was it Calvin Klein? Yeah. Yes, Calvin Klein was Wahlberg.

Oh, we're not talking about Pope John Paul. I forget which one the Pope was. And what did Mark? Panty facts. That was pretty good. At 3.15 a.m., he has his first meal. This guy eats fucking constantly, but it's all incredible health food. Not Warren Buffett style.

No, no, no. At 3.15 a.m., breakfast. I start out with steel oats, peanut butter, blueberries, and eggs for breakfast. Wow. Then I have a protein shake. Sure. Performance-insp I have a protein shake. Sure. Performance-inspired nutrition vanilla latte shake. It's like an acronym, but it doesn't,

like he writes it like an acronym in all caps, but it doesn't, the acronym is PINVILS. PINVILS. Then three turkey burgers, five pieces of sweet potatoes at 3.15 a.m. For breakfast. For breakfast. But then he works out for four hours.

From 3.40 to 5.15. Right. Then 5.30, post-workout meal. This guy, how afraid of death is he that he's like, I have to get up at 2.30 and just experience as much of the day as possible? Because in those videos- But he has kids, doesn't he? He has multiple kids. Yeah, lots of kids.

And that was something that I was noticing. I will sometimes get up super early because my kids get up super early and I want to get shit done before they wake up. But there's no mention of like, and then I have to take the kids to school or anything. It's just like, I get up at 2.30 because fear of death. Do we have two meals before 6.30?

Yeah, like huge fucking meals. Three turkey burgers? Yeah, he eats more Whole Foods before he wakes up than I eat in like an entire week. I know you guys are mocking him. I'm admiring him. Keep going. Well, I can only mock because it's so mind-blowing to me that someone has, they're like, let me set my alarm.

Oh, what time are you waking up tomorrow? 2.30 a.m. And you're like, what yeah to do what you work on the today show yeah right exactly yeah or like morning radio exactly those are the people who wake up and then he has family time at 11 and 5 30 picks up the kids at 3 oh he does pick up the kids i miss that yeah and then you also miss that after his workouts he has a cryotherapy session where he chills in a room that's 150 to below zero uh-huh so wait oh that's weird to you i don't know i guess i just like when you have those kinds of resources where you're like yeah i can wake up i can eat like he has like this like trainer with him there's like a doctor with him like all day then he does his cryotherapy doesn't he also have

like a burger business wall burgers yeah yeah There's a reason three turkey burgers are in there, I'm sure. Right, I get it. Three turkey wall burgers. It's cross promotion. I get it. There's video of him explaining his workout routine with the doctor behind him, and the doctor is treating his body like it's a horse's body. He slaps him on the back.

Yeah, there's my freak study, my experiment. It's so weird. Somehow I convinced him to wake up at 2.30 every day. Yeah, he had to convince the Equinox to open extra early for him. 4 a.m. club, bro. Yeah. Well, now he's got his own, yeah, when he's on the road, but it looked like his own home gym was like some, like a moronic.

Yeah, puts Equinox to shame. It was, yeah. I mean, hey, look. How cold was the room? 150 degrees below zero. What? Yeah. How cold was the room? 150 degrees below zero. What? Yeah. How does that work?

You need like an entire city block's worth of electricity just to like keep that room doing it. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't know someone who does. Literally that room is raising the Earth's temperature a half a degree. Yeah, exactly. Like that's the threshold.

We're going to look back and we're like, how come all that irreversible climate change happened? Oh, this fucking asshole named Mark Wahlberg had to keep a room at 150 degrees below zero. He had his own mountaintop removal coal mining operation. You know who's the Anthony Robbins? Are you familiar with the Tony Robbins? Tony Robbins. Six, seven. Yeah.

But he has in his house like this. I can't even describe it. But he has in his house like this – I can't even describe it. It's like a manhole goes straight down, and it's freezing water that he just dips in and then comes back out. Like an ice bath. That's like icy athletes. Not even a bath. It's like a little cylinder. It's air?

No, it's water. Oh. It's ground level. And he just like dips himself in and comes out? Yeah, he completely dips in under it and then comes back out. But I can't believe it's 150 degrees below zero. Well, that's when you have that Wahlberg money. You're not doing ice baths like some common professional athlete.

Yeah. You're treating your body like a piece of meat that is being prepared by one of those chefs that uses Scientit. It seemed like it would burn. Well, he told Ellen it helps remove inflammation and can improve sleep. Yeah. Oh, of course. Of inflammation and can improve sleep. Yeah. Oh, of course. Of course it can, bro. Yeah.

Wayne, it's been so fun having you, man. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Where can people find you, follow you? Well, I will tell you. I'm on something called Twitter. Oh, the microblogging site. Yes.

I'm a fan. Yeah. Yeah. I write there too sometimes. It's at Fetterman. Okay. Wow. You got in early. Yep. Wow. Early adapter. It's at Fetterman. Okay. Wow. You got in early.

Yep. Wow. Early adopters. By the way, they jumped. I think they came online in 2006. Yeah, around there. Yeah. So I think it was 2008.

So a couple of years in. There you go. Still wasn't a problem. And then I have the waynefetterman.com, my website. Yeah. And also I have a new podcast that I'm doing. Oh, great. What is it?

It's just we talk about the daily news with a couple guys. It's just a new idea. It's the history of stand-up, right? Yeah, it's the history of stand-up. You were teaching a class on that, right? Believe it or not, yes. Yeah. This is a new thing in my life.

That's awesome. At USC, where they have, you know, the Trojan is their mascot. Yes. OJ Simpson is their mascot. Yes. OJ Simpson is an alumni. Yeah. Yeah. And so many others. But, yeah, it's just if you're into the history of stand-up,

we go from vaudeville right up to we call it Netflix is like we feel the big. It's like the new, right. What's happening right now. Right, right, right. But if you want any era. You guys talk about Premium Blend? Yeah. Does that make it in there? Sure. I was on that. Was a big fan as a kid. Yeah. I did now. Right, right, right. But if you want any era. You guys talk about Premium Blend? Yeah. Does that make it in there?

Sure. I was on that. Was a big fan as a kid. Yeah, I was a fan of it. I did it. Yeah, yeah. Mitch Hedberg and I were on the same episode. Oh, wow.

You know that guy? I've heard of him. Well, I don't know. You don't know David Brenner. I don't know. No, I definitely know Mitch Hedberg for sure. Wait, who is David Brenner anyway? It was, he's literally, he's kind of the, the first full on observational comedian.

Pre-Sign for him. Pre-Sign for him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So a lot of, like one of his jokes would be like, the sign that says, only seeing eye dogs allowed.

Right. Like who is that sign for? Right. Right. That would be a Brenner-esque joke. Right, right, right. It's like, well,

there's like, they've just cut down their customer base. It's pretty small. No, but who would even, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, well, they've just cut down their customer base. It's very small. No, but who would even see it? Yeah, yeah. You're blind. You can't see that. This guy.

How do I not know David Brenner? Miles. Yep. Where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. What's a tweet you've been enjoying? There are a couple of things. Just around the Brett Kavanaugh thing.

It's amazing. I remember during his confirmation, harris asked very specifically did you have a any kind of interaction with someone from this law firm mark haswitz law firm about the muller probes can i do my impression of cameron yes well if you could tell me the person maybe then you would never answer yes exactly do you have a person of mine i i can't recall you know and she's like i have an email but i can't say because this is classified. Anyway, so Whitney Cummings said, pretty amazing that Brett Kavanaugh can remember names of 65 women he knew in high school 35 years ago, but not whether or not he had a conversation about Robert Mueller in the past year.

And then another one from Ian Millhiser. So to summarize, a confessed serial sexual predator nominated a man who is credibly accused of attempted rape to be the key vote to strip women of reproductive freedom. Yeah, let's just hope that this woman has her day to testify in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee. And we can bring some respect to this process because it was looking like a runaway train. But we don't know still. Things could change. All right. Some tweets I've been enjoying. I will leave now. Crypticali tweeted to the tune of Destiny's Child, say my name.

Spell my name, spell my name. It's right there in the email. It's not a hidden detail. The spelling doesn't change. And that goes out to my wife, who's, for some reason, everybody thinks her name is spelled without an H. And they will constantly email her at her first name in the email address and spell it without the H. That's like when people spell my handle right to tweet at me and then misspell either my first or last name. I'm like, what the fuck is happening?

And then from Bob Volfoff tweeted, I believe in disconnecting and relaxing after work, so I only do three things once I'm home after a long day at the office. One, think in great detail about every mistake I've ever made. Two, look inward and catalog all my weaknesses like a maniac. And three, chill. And you can follow us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website,

dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song you can also find that information in the information about the episode on whatever you are listening to this on Miles what song are we riding

we played some Dirty Art Club last week and I just want to play another song off one of their his album Basement Seance that I really called Queen Persephone so, called Queen Persephone. So this is Queen Persephone by Dirty Art Club. All right. We're going to ride out on that.

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