The Daily Zeitgeist - Bye Bye Bolton, White Claw Or Naw? 9.11.19

Episode Date: September 11, 2019

In episode 471, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Nerdificent co-host Ify Nwadiwe to discuss a possible new Face/Off film, John Bolton being fired, Netanyahu pledging to annex the West Bank, W...ilbur Ross threatening to fire scientists who contradict the president, Trump losing supporters, Harvey Weinstein going after Gwyneth Paltrow, Michael Jordan donating money for Hurricane Dorian relief, Kanye's new album, the White Claw shortage, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Paramount Putting A New Face On Action Hit ‘Face/Off’2. Isabelle Dinoire: Life after the world's first face transplant3. BREAKING: Bolton Accuses Trump of Lying About His Ouster4. Trump Ousts John Bolton as National Security Adviser5. West Bank Population6. Netanyahu, Facing Tough Israel Election, Pledges to Annex Much of West Bank7. Commerce Chief Threatened Firings at NOAA After Trump’s Dorian Tweets, Sources Say8. Women voters spell trouble for Trump in 20209. Gwyneth Paltrow Derided By Harvey Weinstein As Her Pivotal Role In Producer’s Downfall Revealed In New Book10. Jordan donates $1 million to Dorian relief11. Kanye West’s leaked ‘Yandhi,’ track by track12. White Claw says it's 'working around the clock' to increase production of the wildly popular hard seltzer amid complaints of shortages across the US13. WATCH: Jonti - Scrood (feat. Steve Lacy) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:01:28 you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
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Starting point is 00:02:11 take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say, officially off the top, fuck Coke Industries and fuck Fox News. It's Wednesday, September 11th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack, Jack, Jack, do Jack.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Do ba-da-da-do Jack. Dump Jack do. Yeah, yeah. Courtesy of Hannah Soltis, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Was that your pen? that map, man? Was that your pen? I wish you'd do it again.
Starting point is 00:02:58 I'll watch you burst out laughing. I wish you'd do it again. I'll watch and burst out laughing There goes our train wreck president All right. You look nickelback, aka's, give me life.
Starting point is 00:03:14 And I'm willing to wager possibly more than this cold brew does. No way. But thank you. I don't know. Yeah, the combination, deadly combination. My cardiologist said,
Starting point is 00:03:24 don't do it. Don't find out. But anyway, thank you Wide Awake at 3.45 a.m. for that Nickelback-inspired, a.k.a. I'm trying to think of what we'll do for next week, but for now, keep the Nickelback ones coming. If someone could do Saving Me, a Nick specifically about saving me, that would be fantastic for me, and I'll be very grateful.
Starting point is 00:03:43 About saving me? The song Saving Me? The song saving me. The song saving me. Said if it's worth saving me. Prison gates won't open up for me. Have you talked about your love of... I'm screaming so loud the dog's bark collar is going off. The dog's bark collar just went off.
Starting point is 00:03:58 So I guess I'm technically a nuisance. Have you talked in depth about your love of Nickelback on the show? No. This is a much deeper knowledge of their catalog than I had expected. Yeah, I mean, I've said it out loud, and I think a lot of people, like most of the things I say, they don't take it fully seriously. Right. But there was a time when
Starting point is 00:04:18 I've learned so many Nickelback songs to annoy people in college. Because at the time, like, I'm going to date myself here. Back in aught seven, Nickelback was not really cracking for everybody, but it was on like every TV commercial and people and around the people. Like, I like music, as you can tell from the write out songs. I hang out with a lot of music snobs.
Starting point is 00:04:41 So they thought Nickelback was the absolute bottom of the barrel. And I said, well, watch me start annoying the fuck out of y'all with these full voice songs. That sounds like an elaborate justification to me. Well, see, this is the problem. Okay, so it's like a rom-com. What started as a joke or a bet, I instantly fell in love with. And then now I'm trying to tell my friend, like, no, I'm just joking, man. I don't really fuck with Nickelback.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And then I'm fucking sobbing, being like, singing, amen, I'm alive. If everyone can't swallow their pride, if everyone loved and nobody lied. And then. Is Nickelback Molly Ringwald or are you the, yeah, I guess you're the jockey dude. Yeah, this is Rachel Lee Cook, and she's all that, would be Nickelback. Yeah, yeah. Awesome. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the faces on Mount Zeitmoor himself, Mr. Ify Wadiwe.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Hey. What's up, man? Hey, ify, ify ain't hitting it right, then you're single to me. Why don't you come and chill in the VIP? How's it going? All right. How is the VIP? I've never been there.
Starting point is 00:05:50 The VIP's good. It's tight. I mean, the closest I've been to VIP was after the VMAs. I was at a Lil Wayne after party. Okay. And he walked around, and I tried to tap him to be like, hey. And then he died? No, his security guard looked at me and was like, do you really want to fight?
Starting point is 00:06:08 And I was like, no. Do you look healthy? Yeah, at the time. This was like a few years ago. So it was before all the- Why would Lil Wayne have a VMA after party now? Unless it's with Blink-182. I mean, yeah, they are touring hard.
Starting point is 00:06:26 I had a homie, the homie Annika, she was up in Seattle and I was supposed to be up there for PAX. And for some reason she was like, yo, do you want to be backstage at the Blink-182 Lil Wayne joint? I was like, yes, I do, but I'm not there. And I regret it till this day I think about it.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Oh, you should have. That would have been a moment. Just for the story. Yeah. See Matt Skiba from Alkal alkaline trio on guitar exactly shut the fuck with the movement uh if you were gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about uh the facebook remake sorry the face off remake i like the hold on let's keep the Facebook remake of Face Off. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Crowdsourced. John Bolton unceremoniously fired after he said he was going to resign because the president is a petty bitch who will dump you before... A pussy ass bitch. Crazy tagging. He will dump you before you dump him. I know. he will dump you before you dump him i know israel has announced plans to annex uh the jordan valley uh we're gonna talk about wilbur ross threatening to fire people who tweeted
Starting point is 00:07:33 correct information about the hurricane uh and just trump's general prospects for 2020 uh harvey weinstein is out here proving uh he has not learned anything michael jordan might not be an asshole and there's a kanye album coming soon so we're gonna talk about that and also white claw shortage uh but first if we would like to ask our guests what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are oh man i was trying to think of something else other than this because I've talked about it so much, but it is, you know, trying to get PSVR porn. I'm pouring on my PSVR. And it's harder than you thought?
Starting point is 00:08:12 Well, it's just a process. And for some reason, I think, oh yeah, I just got done doing 2F and High at UCB, so I was definitely had that high. Oh, you came off that show being like, let me look at this. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah you know when you get that like high innovation
Starting point is 00:08:26 where you're like I gotta do this tonight or else it's already 2am and I go and I'm setting it up and you have to like put videos on a flash drive
Starting point is 00:08:35 and then put it in the PS4 oh come on but then I the flash drive I have I have an NVIDIA one that looks like a video card and it was too fat to fit in the PS4
Starting point is 00:08:43 so I had to go searching for a smaller flash drive found one it was only four gigs so i had to be very selective tried to play it you can't play it with a native media player so you have to i had to sign up for this uh app on playstation called little star that has its own media player that allows you to look at vr right and so i finally do that and then i it on, press play and realize I should have just watched regular porn. Man, you went through all that. Yeah. And you still haven't paid your gas bill.
Starting point is 00:09:11 No. Yeah. I'm still, still eating cold soup. Is there anything that like, does it add anything? Like you can look around basically, right? I mean, like you remember when you went to see Avatar and you're like, oh, that's cool. Yeah. That's, that oh, that's cool. That's kind of how it was in VR porn.
Starting point is 00:09:29 It's like, oh, it feels like you're in my face. But definitely, I'm still – You know exactly where you are. Yeah, I know exactly that there's my hand on my dick. Right, right. Yeah, I know what a human feels like. And the absence of that is deafening. What does that feel like, by the way? A human?
Starting point is 00:09:49 What is something that is overrated? I think overrated is this idea of thinking like, oh, people are so soft now, and and and and you know you can't take dave chappelle special because like i was thinking about this a lot uh when it when it was in the height and you know i saw it i was like okay yeah you know there was stuff i liked stuff i didn't but like this super like martyrdom performance that's been going on online where it's like you know that people were like picketing andrew dice clay shows like so like that compared to someone saying oh that's kind of shitty on twitter is nothing like can you imagine trying to walk into your show and you have to walk across a picket line that is not happening so like the i i think that just negates two ideas one that
Starting point is 00:10:41 is a new softening of society right and two that it's just so bad like cool yeah you know that's it's just you know freedom of speech not freedom of consequence i mean softening of society is a way to not actually accept that society might be progressing oh yeah well it's actually getting softer that's what that is it's just the same thing when old heads in like you know music or or some art uh feel that they're the things they like are being dated and people have moved on from it they they try and push this idea of like oh music sucks trash it's trash it's like well the people making money uh see something's going yeah yeah their shows are still packed so maybe maybe it's not trash and it's just not for you. Like I can kind of see the argument from the left because they're like, well, the left has traditionally been about, you know, completely free speech and like opening, like just saying whatever the fuck we want.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Man, you guys just try and censor speech when the right has been like the most all about censoring speech like from Jump Street and like all along that they would then act like this is something new that they would never be a part of. It's just wild. I follow Hasan Abi from the Young Turks. Right. And he was recently under fire because he was cracking jokes on Dan Crenshaw and his lack of an eye and depth perception. And I remember like, you know, the right just being like, how could you do this? How could you? And then those same people, the same people are like, oh, you want to be mad about some jokes from Dave Chappelle? It's like, you just, the words haven't finished escaping your mouth from like dragging Hassan on Fox News to like debate about this. After he's coming after the guy who's like, yeah, I lend my handguns out to friends. They need to never know. Anyway, I was with Pete Davidson and I flamed him.
Starting point is 00:12:43 So I'm cool. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated is, I think, the ritual of making coffee. There's something, you know, I've been real into. I got a French press now. And I like doing pour over and French press because I recently – at my old place, I had the drip system because my like glass container for my pour over kept being broken by multiple roommates and people, ex-partners. Multiple ex-partners. Multiple.
Starting point is 00:13:20 And they'll be expecting a bill. Yeah, yeah. I'm sending that. And they'll be expecting a bill. Yeah, yeah. I'm sending that. But no, now that I'm like, I have my own place and space and I know things will be safe. Just like there has been something about like just the process of making coffee that's been like very calming before I jack myself up with some coffee.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Before I beam up. Yeah, before I, you know, before I just jolt my what kind of how are you making your coffee uh so i've been doing french press and i even like i like i'm i'd say i'm halfway to pretension because like i'm definitely not spending 15 on stumptown beans but uh i did see some intelligentsia beans on sale and i was like i'll get that i'll get the janky ones from world market well oh yeah i have a electric grinder which like uh you know uh producer dan was telling me one of his friends got on his back because like you're heating up the beans it was like literally the scientific process for crushing beans versus using a hand grinder an electric grinder basically the same right so you are insane and also this happened we we talked about this on the show and uh coffee's I gang educated me.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Oh, they're going to come. Not aggressive. No, they're very reasonable. They're like, it's true. But he's like,
Starting point is 00:14:32 but you really have to be up on the flavor profile of something to notice at that point. What's happening with the oils. It's like, so at that point, like they weren't, you know, not splitting hairs there,
Starting point is 00:14:41 but yeah, because the thing is, is like, I'm a buff ass dude. First off and foremost, like, so like, if I because the thing is, I'm a buff-ass dude, first off and foremost. You've seen this body. So if I use a hand grinder, I might as well use an electric grinder. You want your coffee smoked?
Starting point is 00:14:50 Awesome. Smoke coming out of that hand grinder, man. It's so funny because there are times where I'll like to go full black and taste all the flavor profiles, and sometimes I'm just like Don Francisco. I need to give him a call and just give me that hazelnut flavor. So I have like three different like sets of beans. And also like the homie, shout out to Ian Williams, owner of Deadstock Coffee in Portland. He's a big coffee nerd.
Starting point is 00:15:24 And like last time he was out here, I went to like a coffee, like there was a coffee festival. And like he was doing this after party. He was like, yo, get those beans. Those, those. He's like, those beans? He's like, those are the expensive joints. And they're like these black bagged beans.
Starting point is 00:15:39 And I will say they were like pretty great. So if, so yeah, I'm both ways of it. Yeah, I want a good pour over kettle. Like the Japanese style with a very thin spout so you can really control the water. Because to me, that's the meditative part about making coffee. I don't drink a lot of hot coffee, but I'll make it for Her Majesty. And I'll pour it over like a Chemex thing. The thing we have is the water comes out sloppy, and when I go to Japan
Starting point is 00:16:08 and I see them fucking doing the real pour over, I'm like, I need that level of precision. My only issue with French press is somebody needs to create one that doesn't get cold so quickly. Ah, yeah. Because the thing just gets, yeah. Same with the Chemex, man. Yeah. It's just chilling right there.
Starting point is 00:16:23 They need to like make one of those bottles like thermoses like a sleeve or something yeah yeah and i'm sure like coffee's i gang let us know how do we get that shit yeah i got a chemex how do i keep it hot but the jump up from like ground beans like just buying a bag that is a pre-ground to grinding it yourself like that is a big step up oh also yeah also, also like, um, I will say I'm a, I'm a ride with coffee's eye gang on this. You do kind of taste the difference versus like grinding when you brew versus like pre ground because there's been times where like I accidentally grind too much and then I was like, I'll just try that again later. And it just, it, it isn't the same smell.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Yeah. You get a lot more smell. Yeah. I make the coffee in the office and i i love i love doing that yeah it's part of my morning ritual every morning yeah uh what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false oh man i i think uh i did my overrated as the myth but i think uh i think also look i've I've been on Tinder recently a lot. No, no luck. More luck on Raya than Tinder. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:17:30 Oh, is Raya the one where you got to be in the business? Yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. You got to sign off too? Yeah, yeah. Wow. I know people who are fucking in the wasteland of Raya. That's the blue check of dating apps.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Yeah, yeah. Where you need other people to be like i i co-sign yeah yes this person is someone of value according to the app yeah so i i try not to get tight about it but there's been two like main things i've seen a bit of one is like don't play video games and like i want to match with them and be like um excuse me first of all i make money playing video games yeah yeah and then how about if i do it for a living yeah and then the second one was like no one in the industry entertainment industry uh because if you haven't made it yet you need a real job i'm like what like what is your industry and like what is your sense of making it because i feel like uh like wait what
Starting point is 00:18:22 is the sentiment again no one in the entertainment industry? Yeah, because essentially they're saying if you're still trying to make it in the entertainment industry at 30, it's not going to happen. Tell that to Samuel L. Jackson, who was smoking crack. Who was on crack. And he made quite a career. One of the highest grossing actors of all time. And he was made a quite a career. One of the highest grossing actors of all time.
Starting point is 00:18:45 But yeah, I mean, all the, all the, this doesn't matter on Tinder because we're going to fuck one time and not talk to each other ever again. So why do you need to worry about where I'm working? So the myth is like, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:56 why, why put up these safeguards? Yeah. Yeah. Cause you're going to have disappointing sex with me. And I was going to be tight. I'll promise you it's going to be very tight. You're going to think twice about ghosting me, but you're still going'll keep it. And I was going to be tight. I'll promise you it's going to be very tight. You're going to think twice about ghosting me, but you're still going to do it.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Have you? I was saying Facebook dating. I was curious about that because the one thing that really caught my eye was the secret crush function. Right. Which was a thing I wish all like social networks did from the beginning, like back when I was MySpace. Oh, yeah. And you would just come into someone's dms you're like oh yeah you fuck with uh it's the dmx album it's dark and hell's hot too yeah and you play volleyball cool um like you know that function seems
Starting point is 00:19:36 interesting because then you can kind of go through your friend groups you're like if they're on here maybe they do yeah right just something that maybe i want to live vicariously through you my hack for that that like you just go put all your friends into the into the secret crush and then you see which ones had selected you doesn't work because they limit it to nine so you would have to go nine secret crushes nine at a time oh but you're just you just want to know who has a secret crush on you yeah but then it's weird because if they match then that's gonna they're gonna be like oh shit jack had a secret crush on me, too. Oh, I didn't know he was in an open marriage.
Starting point is 00:20:06 And then we have to have awkward meetings later today. But I'm like, so what do you mean, Jack? You just wanted to see if I had a secret crush on you? Also, I will say, myth or advice, you don't need Tinder Plus. If you want to know who's sitting in that who liked you section, I promise you, it's everyone you swipe left on. liked you section i promise you it's everyone you swipe left on like right like that's who's in there because if you tinder gold like it's like you pay and then you get a feature where you can see everyone who did swipe on you instead of waiting for them to appear in the stack and how much that costs it's like 15 bucks a month what is like candy crush for fucking yeah but like the
Starting point is 00:20:40 but literally i was like i got curious i was i was plus i was like a city, and I was like, I got to get through this very quick. High volume swiping. I'm flying out in two days. Let's go. But it's just the people who, it's all the people you swipe left and right. You're like, I'm using a stylus and a handheld fan to power swipe through here. All right. Let's talk about Face Off, guys.
Starting point is 00:21:07 This is one of the most preposterous premises for a movie that has ever ended up being good, in my opinion. Yeah. It's John Woo, right? Yeah, John Woo. Right. And it's a bad movie because of how ridiculous it is, but it's still, it's like a great plot holes are gigantic.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Huge. I mean the idea that you're like, okay man, you're going to go undercover just with this dude's face. Not even your body. Right. You got the same motherfucking body. It's your face.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And then like, you're supposed to also download, like there's no information about emotional relationships aside from maybe like what you could clean off a piece of paper and then you just become this person. Yeah. Also that voice changing thing they put on his throat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:53 That's the one technology I remember. Yeah. Right. So, I mean, so they're going to recast this because, I mean, the thing that made it work was it was Nicholas Cage and John Travolta at the top of their game.
Starting point is 00:22:06 And I thought they did a pretty good job imitating each other. And Caster Troy was a good character. Wait, imitating each other? You mean so when Travolta became Caster Troy, that he did a good version of being... Of Nicolas Cage's Caster Troy. Yeah. Everyone's like, oh oh what a predicament yeah uh yeah okay yeah fuck with that um i mean it's like an acting exercise it's like that that's
Starting point is 00:22:32 kind of what's cool about it i would love to see a deep dive comparing them like you know travolta really nailed these like right idiosyncrasies about his performance yeah like i wonder how much communication there was between them because they're both huge stars like I wonder how much he was like, so I'm doing this. This is my little hand gesture that I'm doing or if they just looked at each other's scenes or how they did it. Anyways, they're going to try and recast it. I think it should be The Rock and Nicolas Cage again.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Just bring him back. Nicolas Cage I think should be in it. For whatever reason, he's just kind of... He's still there. I kind of need him there. But if you're going off of people who are fucking crushing this year, you got, I guess, Chris Evans and Dwayne Johnson? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Like, would be one? Or look, I say, look, let's just get it done with Jeremy Renner and Jackie Chan. Just give the people what they want. Jackie Chan had apparently had a big year in 2019. I did not know that. Did he? Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:23:34 Yeah. And I was just searching like highest grossing actors. Cause I was like, you know, cause in my mind that was sort of the pairing for face off the original one. I'm like, it's just sort of the natural who was making the shmoney this year? Actually, well, number one is Samuel L. Jackson.
Starting point is 00:23:48 So Samuel L. Jackson and The Rock are one and two for highest grossing in, I think, 2019. Oh, because of Avengers movies. Yeah, he was in Avengers, Captain Marvel, Spider-Man Far From Home. I mean, this dude has been- Yeah, he's in all the Marvel movies. They should do like a five person face-off with all the chris's just like chris pine chris evans chris hemsworth chris pratt yeah
Starting point is 00:24:13 chris rock really good chris rock chris paul would be great yeah i mean fuck it let's just keep one of one of the worst actors in the history of commercial acting. Oh, dude, what if it was Benicio and Nicolas Cage? That would be fucking tight. Wow! And they both have that same, they're aging kind of the same way. Yeah, they already have faces that look like fucked up masks, in a way, that are coming off so fucking.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Yeah, I mean, that's the one issue that I see is when it first came out, like the idea of a face transplant was far enough off that, or like, you know, it hadn't been done. So we were like, could that be done? But now they've done face transplants. And like, you've seen the pictures of what they look like. And they're not like seamless. I'll give them a six out of 10.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Yeah, yeah. I mean, honestly, you get- And actually, like like i saw a picture of the french woman who was the first successful face transplant and she looks really good like now like it the face has like sort of adjusted yeah settled a little bit but it's still like now that we know what a face transplant looks like and that it takes years for like things to settle right uh and for your body to like not fully reject it they don't just lay it on and then a laser just goes and then you are that and you're
Starting point is 00:25:33 that person put a little microchip on my wife can't tell that it's a different person's dick yeah she's having sex oh god maybe they just have very similar dicks yeah that's really the deep dive we need to do. Right. I mean, you know, this would be a great podcast where you dive into the realities of these films
Starting point is 00:25:51 and really try and find out what happened. There's a scene that never made the cut where his wife goes, when did you get circumcised? That would be amazing. He's like,
Starting point is 00:26:02 I'm just pulling it back. All right. that would be amazing he's like I'm just pulling it back alright we're going to take a quick break we'll be right back Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered there are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere,
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Starting point is 00:27:43 The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Starting point is 00:28:20 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:28:32 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
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Starting point is 00:29:07 is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her.
Starting point is 00:29:46 What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast and we're back and john bolton is out he has been unceremoniously fired uh from his role as the National Security Advisor. Barely got to know the guy.
Starting point is 00:30:30 God, he didn't even get to fucking start a war. Hurdle us into war. I know. He tried with Iran when there was that big face-off over, like, tankers and the drone. Yeah, and the straight-to-four moves. But, yeah, look, the old Muppet, the old Warhawk Muppet. Called Trump last night. According to him, he called Trump last night and said he was going to resign. And Trump was like, we'll talk about it in the morning.
Starting point is 00:30:55 And then fired him overnight. That's the thing. It's weird that Trump has been able to fool so many of the people he's hired. Every time. Like, it's like, really, you thought this at the time? He's like, oh, nah, with me, he's going to respect me. It's like, no. Yeah, he's like, I remember.
Starting point is 00:31:13 The president will, he will do this ceremoniously. He does this multiple times in the Bob Woodward book. Like, in the first year, he does, like, people are talking about resigning. And he's like well let's like pump the brakes on that a little bit and like we'll talk about it and then he fires them before they have a chance to resign like that he did that to Reince Priebus where Reince Priebus is on Air Force One and they're talking about his resignation and the president's like you know we'll take a couple weeks and like do this the right way. And then
Starting point is 00:31:45 Reince gets off of Air Force One and by the time he gets to his car, Trump has tweeted that he just resigned and replaced him. Like I already said who he was replacing him with. It was just like, yo. I think Nikki Haley was probably one of the few people to get a respectable
Starting point is 00:32:02 sending off because she actually was able to like do it on her own terms he was like she's a very nice person yeah like and kept her you know uh cordial but you know these people should know yeah you know what it was when you signed up yeah you think he's gonna treat you with fucking respect he was talking shit about your mustache from jump street like he always thought this dude was a joker and that was one of the first reasons why he didn't enter the administration early enough. He's like, I don't like his look. Brett. His mustache stinks.
Starting point is 00:32:30 I bet it's got a bunch of fry grease in it. I know. It truly is wild. It's like when you see someone get with a person that they cheated on their man with and then they get cheated on. And you're like,
Starting point is 00:32:45 what? And you're like, yeah, no, it's in their nature. You get them cheating. You lose them cheating. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:32:50 So I feel like that mainstream media has kind of taken an L on this one too, because they were talking about how Bolton was going to be this like savvy operator who like, you know, had been in the halls of power and, you know, knew how to maneuver in, in the White House and in the executive branch. And it was just in and out, basically.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Yeah. Well, I think they were just taking the fact that he had tried to start wars in past administrations. And they're like, well, he's been known to get loud in a White House. But I think, yeah, also when you sort of started reading, like just how he was operating within the national security, like apparatus, people were just not like, it didn't seem like you really had that much influence at the end.
Starting point is 00:33:34 No. Yeah. Here he comes. I think we talked last week about how, uh, he wasn't allowed to like read confidential documents. They were because they thought he would leak them because he would like get his feelings hurt and then leak stuff. Or like if he didn't get his way, he would then go and leak it.
Starting point is 00:33:52 And so people caught on to that and they were like, okay, you can read this in front of me right now. That's it. So, yeah, I mean, he had kind of been hamstrung by people not trusting him. Which is great. Thank God. I mean, anything to just of been hamstrung by people not trusting him. Which is great. Thank God. I mean, anything to just make this White House less efficient is probably a good thing for the world. At least in like a starting war sense.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Yeah, a thousand percent. I mean, but yeah, coupled with Trump's somewhat being, I guess, being a pacifist, it's working out somewhat. being a pacifist uh it's working out somewhere well speaking of uh pacifists netanyahu uh says he's requesting a mandate uh to annex uh the jordan valley yeah with the u.s we're gonna we're gonna annex the jordan valley yeah and you know in seven days we're gonna take all the settlements back and annex them for israel uh the thing that he's doing is trying to basically say, y'all vote for me. We'll annex the shit out of everything. We will take all this land back. And then will y'all please sign a bill that protects past presidents, prime ministers from indictments?
Starting point is 00:35:01 That's really the tradeoff this whole thing is. That's the promise because like you know we're gonna see what the peace plan is that trump is gonna put out and then this because it's a lot of it has to do with trump because he needs trump to sign off on this just you know uh land grab that he's proposing but i guess the trade-off is sort of like look look i know y'all don't want you're not really fucking with me but if you do we can take this land back and then just sign this bill so i don't have to face any criminal charges because we already know I was, you know, I think he tried to have a snap election in December to try and like keep himself out of trouble. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:33 So now he's just scrambling. He's very similar situation to Trump where he's like, fuck, if I get out of office. Right. Things could be a little bit hectic for me. He's got he's got another election coming up. Right. In the next like I think they said seven days. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:47 This is his pitch, basically. Right. This is him being like, this is what's at stake. If you want somebody who's going to start a war and finish it, hang with me. Yeah. Yeah. But I guess that's what it's. But that's what's funny.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Like, I'm curious to see what the official stance of the U.S. is going to be because if they're like, go for it, then things might be different or you just stay quiet because many other people are like, don't get, don't fucking speak up right now on this. Right. But, you know, it's a hell of a drug being rich and powerful. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I mean, the fact that he's calling the U.S. and like calling a favor and just being like, we're going to do it in coordination with the U.S. I don't know who, like whether that was an official like U.S. co-signed policy or, you know, where that's coming from. Maybe he's just knows that Trump does whatever he says because he's got to strengthen his pro-Israel bona fides because he is the most Jewish Gentile of all time. What did he call himself? He gave himself some title. God? Yeah, he was chosen something. Yeah, maybe he just said King of Israel,
Starting point is 00:36:59 although that's what Netanyahu calls himself or what people flippantly refer to him as. All right. Let's talk about Wilbur Ross. Big swinging dick. Wilbur Ross. Oh, God. Is he still alive?
Starting point is 00:37:12 Yeah. Like legitimately? Or is it in my mind, it's like we keep talking about the movie Dave. But like in my mind, I don't know how he's still moving. Like if you want to talk about running on fumes, that's what Wilbur Ross is. He's that alien in Men in Black. Right, exactly. Wilbur Ross, you could definitely recreate his face with Hollywood makeup.
Starting point is 00:37:35 He looks like somebody that could easily be. You could create his face with an old baby doll and some rope. Just his old weird hair and his big old head. I don't know. Anyway. Like sunken mouth. Bless you, Commerce Secretary, the man who's so in touch with the working people. Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Who was like shaming working people by saying like, you can afford a Coca-Cola now with the new money you're getting. Right. Oh my God. It's so just whenever you hear someone say that, it's like, man, you just have had money for so long. Oh yeah. just have had money for so long. Oh, yeah. You've had money for so long to be that out of touch.
Starting point is 00:38:09 You're gaslit by your wealth. Like he's playing virtual reality. Yeah. He doesn't realize the goggles he has on. Yeah. And he didn't even get the little star app to jerk off on his PSVR. No, no. He's just staring at blackness.
Starting point is 00:38:20 He's just straight in. Yeah. He just bugs straight in. Yeah. Anyways, he's making news again because he apparently, according to the New York Times, threatened to fire anyone who tweeted a correction about the president's hurricane tweet from last week. Yeah. We talked yesterday about how, you know, the National Weather Service in Alabama came out and was like, guys, don't freak out. The hurricane is
Starting point is 00:38:50 not coming here. I know this is a life and death thing, so we have to give you the correct information. He threatened to fire people over doing that because it was contradicting the president. That's illegal, right?
Starting point is 00:39:06 Oh, yeah. I mean, it would definitely be wholly unethical to basically force someone to lie. I'm pretty sure they're bound to report what their mandate is as a scientific body versus taking something from a political appointee. But I don't understand how he got in contact. He just reached out to somebody and said, if you don't fucking get it together, I'm going to fire you?
Starting point is 00:39:34 Oh, he phoned the acting administrator of the NOAA from Greece. Wow. And instructed him to, wow, okay. Truly the most evil rich fuckboy shit. Bring me a phone. From Greece. Bring me a, whoever so much as corrects the president of the United States. What are you?
Starting point is 00:39:56 Will be fired. Pass me one of those dolmons. Oh, dolmos. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah, dolmos. Oh, great belief. Okay. At last in the building. I call it a dolmon. What the fuck? uh dolmons oh dolmas is that what you're talking about okay again this is just part of you know it's all becoming very orwellian where it's like here the truth ain't truth uh fucking these maps are lies
Starting point is 00:40:19 weathers are lies it honestly this feels like the corniest most washed like analogy but i'm gonna say it it almost feels like the corniest, most washed analogy, but I'm going to say it. It almost feels like reverse They Lived because they're very overt with where we can see that. It really is just people with money running things and saying what's real, what's not. But people are choosing to wear the glasses to believe that it's like, no, everything's fine because the work to uproot something as systematic as everything that's going on is overwhelming. Also, some of them are just drinking the Kool-Aid and they're like, one day this lotto scratcher is going to make me a millionaire and I'm going to be making rules with them. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of a metaphor for like the whole system that his power depends on trump's power and his wealth
Starting point is 00:41:07 depends on trump's wealth or trump continuing to be in power so right he's gonna he's gonna do whatever it's all very like bacteria yeah feeding on each other yeah and finally uh miles you were saying that trump should be scared i well you know know, we always kind of touch in on all the bad news, but I want to keep touching on the bad news because I feel like people need to realize that if people can get their shit together and turn out and vote, there's a very good possibility to keep this motherfucker out of office now. Obviously, he could cheat and do all these other things,
Starting point is 00:41:41 but just again, everything that we're looking at from a data standpoint, not to say that that's going to predict the future, but what we're seeing is that the president does not have his shit together enough to begin changing the sentiment in the country. So again, when you sort of look at how the midterms went and the polls we're seeing, The when you sort of look at how the midterms went and the polls were seeing this is it's not it's obviously a bad sign for Trump. And a lot of people point to like how Bill Clinton and Obama took huge, you know, they took L's in their midterms, lost the House or lost Congress. It flipped, but still ended up holding on to the White House in their reelection bids. But the situation is completely I don't really think it's comparable in that sense, because when you look at the losses that Clinton and Obama suffered, they're coming from like conservative districts as like, you know, there's a whole like political realignment going on. But with Trump, like he's losing places that he won to like in the suburbs and with women, those places are now losing those advantages that he had in 2016 against Hillary.
Starting point is 00:42:45 now losing those advantages that he had in 2016 against Hillary. And we already know the economy is fucking slow as fuck. And it's just becoming more and more of a negative. And as much as he wants to do, he can scream about, you know, it's whoever the Bahamians or fucking the Fed who's fucking it all up for him. But that isn't that isn't budging. But also, when you look again at his approval numbers around the time we were getting into the midterms, he had 40% approval and 54% disapproval. Today, it's at 39% approval with 57% disapproving. So he's not, there's no adjustments being made. Right. Like if basically what that's saying is, if you stay on this course, you will continue for more people will continue to disapprove of the job you're doing. You're obviously going to have your carved out base, which is around 35 and 40%.
Starting point is 00:43:28 But you're going to keep naturally adding onto the pile who don't want to fuck with you as president. So, you know, looking at all those things, you're like, okay, you know, if the Dems don't fuck it up too, and put old Joe in there yeah we need we need to have candidates out there who a are going to give people a future to vote for uh and also you know try and correct some of the bullshit that's happened and i know right now like the dnc a lot of the reporting is like their their tactic going into this isn't to be like trump's racist trump hates everyone that isn't white like whatever i think they're going to do a lot of strategy around pointing to the campaign promises that were empty promises and
Starting point is 00:44:11 how that's, you know, from a data standpoint, negatively affected the quality of life for voters in those certain areas. Yeah. I mean, Clinton and Obama, like comparing it to them and how they responded to their midterms losses, they both adapted rightward after they launched. They took their policies in a more moderate direction because, you know, they looked at what the people were telling them via the vote. And they were like, well, that's. Ah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:38 That's not it. Clearly you want us to go in this direction. And that's how they hung on on to power yeah it wasn't the best for policy but right yeah i mean if you're strictly playing the game of re-election i mean that's where a lot of the fucked up shit that clinton passed with regards to like justice and criminal justice stuff uh came from but he uh he also helped make Wall Street a casino. Right. Get that part. Yeah. But Trump doesn't seem capable of dealing with reality when it doesn't suit his flattery. No. Again, it's like it's never a just.
Starting point is 00:45:15 It's fucking hit the fucking pedal to the metal every time. Yeah. Oh, there's no wall? Fuck it. Just illegally seize the land and build stuff. Let's take money from military schools or like daycare centers on military bases for the fuck. People were enlisted to build the wall. It's like it's only just like, well, then let's make the mistakes even fucking harder. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:37 So we'll see. I mean, it's it's it's I'm I don't know what I think it's going to take some kind of external event for him to kind of have any kind of change in his numbers because it doesn't seem like he has the wherewithal to realize what's going on. Yeah. Or he just doesn't care. There's two famous quotes that I keep thinking of as we are seeing this. And I don't like to start spiking the football or being like, well, yeah, his presidency is falling apart because things could totally change. I have no read on how the populace feels about this president because it just doesn't make
Starting point is 00:46:16 sense to me that any of them approve of him. But there's that you can fool all the people some of the time, you can fool some of the people all the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time quote that I think applies to Trump. And also just with regards to stuff like gun control, the fact that there is a horrible and immoral policy that is being made to look bad, being made to look horrible and immoral, being made to look bad, being made to look horrible and immoral, the longer we're kind of alive and paying attention in the country reminds me of the, quote, the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Like, things do eventually, if you're in a place where people are paying attention and have the ability to, you know, vote. It will bend towards justice. You just have to be able to live for 300 years. Yeah, that's right. All right. We're going to take another quick break and we'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered.
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Starting point is 00:49:14 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically Black.
Starting point is 00:49:47 I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports
Starting point is 00:50:04 on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because
Starting point is 00:50:30 of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them voice. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:50:54 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHe radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast and we're back and so is harvey weinstein, guys. He is back. So his trial was supposed to start yesterday, but it got delayed, got postponed.
Starting point is 00:51:31 And I think his lawyers got that done. And he chose that day to start rehabbing his image. And the way he's gone about doing that is by attacking a woman uh specifically gwyneth paltrow uh they started talking shit about how she was quote hollywood royalty her father was a top producer her mother a famous actor her godfather is steven spielberg she didn't need to make movies with harvey weinstein she wanted to and she won top awards and was the top paid female actor for nearly a decade with Weinstein. So what is that supposed to mean? Right. So basically there's- How does that make him less of a predator?
Starting point is 00:52:13 Yeah. Right. So she knew how the game worked, like she wasn't desperate. So he was allowed to ask her to have sex with him in exchange for a role. Like what is your point yeah yeah that's that's like really not understanding like what yeah the situation you're in you're like well i'm just go after this person like in service of this monster though right yeah that doesn't change where the island you're launching your fucking missiles from this yeah it reminds me of that email he released like after the first couple articles came out where he was like, Guys, I'm going to take a couple months off.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I'm going to take a sabbatical, and I'm going to focus my full-time energy on taking down Trump. Because this guy really pissed me off. And everyone's like, what the fuck are you talking about? You are a fucking monster. But he just didn't seem to be able to comprehend that again man when you're fucking used to living in a consequence-free world where like your power and influence and money solves everything and there are no consequences like yeah you end up just fucking looking like a just a space alien oh yeah oh yeah y'all look uh let's
Starting point is 00:53:22 let this all this uh my criminal behavior uh my sexual predation let's take put that on the back burner because i want to pull up for the left right okay that doesn't cancel it out but you are canceled sir yeah yeah sorry yeah well you know uh is his trial gonna start how much has it been postponed? Like it'll start soonish? I'm not sure when it starts. I think fairly soon. Like it hasn't been postponed indefinitely. And also the book by the reporters who broke the story is called She Said. And I think it was just released today or yesterday.
Starting point is 00:53:58 So that's definitely worth a read. I'll be checking that out. Let's talk about Michael Jordan. He's an asshole. He's goodael jordan he's an asshole man he's an asshole we can say right now before we even talk about this i want to set up that we michael jordan is a known asshole yeah come on true or false uh what about okay the fuck them kids moment uh i think it was i think it was chris paul was doing a clinic basketball clinic where michael jordan showed up and they're like okay if michael jordan can't make like like consecutive three-pointers around like the key or
Starting point is 00:54:32 whatever i don't know wherever the fuck he was i think it was three-pointers free throws whatever they're like michael's gonna take like six shots if he misses one everybody gets a free like free sneakers right so people are like oh yay free jordan this motherfucker iced every shot yeah and was like so cold-blooded and like these kids at first like there was a moment where they're like maybe and it didn't and he was just like yeah chris paul was like hey man what about the fuck these kids michael jordan i'm michael jordan bro these kids you think i'm gonna miss these fucking shots right you're gonna make me look like a fool? Just give them the shoes.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Right. And I just know people who, even as kids, had seen him, asked him for an autograph, and were like, it was not the scenario they thought it was going to be in their head. Yeah. Where it's like, what? Here, man. Like, okay, go. Yeah, my grandmother, God rest her soul, hated Michael Jordan.ordan so she always she hated him and it was
Starting point is 00:55:26 all because when she was in louisiana it was the same thing these kids went up to him for an autograph and he was a dick to him and so she's like so your grandma just canceled him right there oh yeah she was like fuck him every time like so she anytime michael jordan was on the tv she's like like just all right she would not she was not fucking i mean even on the court too and in his teams he was yeah i mean he broke steve kerr's nose in practice just punched him in the face uh that's incredible i mean if you know who steve kerr is now like i mean i know if you were to like think of if you were to describe their personalities yeah now and removed him and were to be like,
Starting point is 00:56:06 who's Michael Jordan and who's Steve Kerr, you would not. You're like, oh, that guy is the progressive dude who's like kind of sounds like a champion for good. My dad was like a progressive politician who got assassinated. Oh, that's how Steve Kerr was killed. Wow. Wow. Damn. And he punched him out.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Yeah. Again, so there's our material for michael jordan might not be the best person so here's the thing though the 90s version of michael jordan that we all wanted to believe was true was as realistic as like a disney character from the 90s yeah as space jam like the reason he can be as deadly as he was on the court is because he was a fucking killer yeah just like all he wanted was to humiliate you that's it right you saw it in his hall of fame acceptance speech when he spent the whole time talking about grudges he still had right the best player who ever played and he's talking shit about his college roommate who like didn't right think
Starting point is 00:57:06 he was gonna be like that great yeah oh it was so trumpian he's like yeah they said i gotta do it fuck you you know he had a billion dollar industry around him that was like you know designed to keep that yeah nike and gatorade were like make him look like a not asshole, please. And he's looked great on TV and he looked great in commercials. So they, you know, it worked. But I just feel like there's something very 90s about the version of Jordan that we had that was just like, it was unrealistic. It was, you know. I think that's everyone's 90s version of themselves.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Yeah. It was a little unrealistic. And then when he came back, was that, when did he come back is that post 9-11 oh yeah that might have been like 2002 or 3 right so i feel like that's america lost its uh lost its innocence uh on 9-11 and stopped believing in fairy tales and also jordan came back after 9-11 and people were like. 2002, 2003. Yeah, exactly. Could you imagine? He's like, man, fuck the Taliban.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Also, fuck these kids, but I'm coming back. Right. Well, okay. Now on to the thing that really surprised me. He's donating a million dollars to Bahamas disaster relief. Yeah. Just listen to this sentence. This sounds not like Michael Jordan.
Starting point is 00:58:25 I am devastated to see the destruction that Hurricane Dorian has brought to the Bahamas where I own property and visit frequently. My heart goes out to everyone who is suffering and to those who have lost loved ones. As the recovery and relief efforts continue, I will be tracking the situation closely and working to identify
Starting point is 00:58:42 non-profit agencies where the funds will have the most impact. The Bahamian people are strong and resilient and i hope that my donation will be of help as they work to recover from this catastrophic storm he sounds like a president right i mean he sounds like a person with a modern media apparatus around him right like he didn't because he probably called his publicist goes goes, what the fuck is this? I'm just reading. Fucking million. Are you out your fucking mind? Right. Trust us.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Trust us, Jordan. It's going to be good for the look. It's going to be good. It'll be good. You're about to release those ugly 34s. Yeah, those Jordan 34s. They're not it, sir. Yeah, but if you do this, people might just buy it in support.
Starting point is 00:59:21 You remember the Kaepernick thing? Yep. How much money we made? Yeah. Although the cynical part of me is like, because he owns property there. Yeah. So it directly does help for him
Starting point is 00:59:31 to help rehabilitate a place that he goes to. Yeah. Also raise his property value. Right. Sure. But again, I'm sure being down there, he probably knows some people.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Could you imagine if he's an asshole to people down there too? Where he's like, Mr. Jordan. Get the fuck out mr jordan fuck off my face right hand me the rock yeah fuck out of here man sugarcane chewing motherfucker like oh my god sugarcane chewing uh trump meanwhile uh his response to the bahamian people has been the opposite of the ustand the fuck out of the U.S., so... Oh, yo, and then, yeah, those people who they're like, yeah, get on a boat so we can get you to some disaster relief in, I think, Florida.
Starting point is 01:00:13 And then halfway through, they're like, oh, actually, if you don't have visas, y'all got to get the fuck up off this boat. Yeah. And then the CBP came around and was like, oh, it was a misunderstanding. Yeah. And then Trump had to double down again.
Starting point is 01:00:22 He's like, well, no, there's going to be gangsters... Yeah. ...coming on. A lot of very bad people., there's going to be gangsters coming on. A lot of very bad people. I saw the harder they come. Yeah, right. I saw Shottos. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:00:32 I've seen Shottos. Bad man don't play. They're not one war with us. Let's talk Kanye, guys. He has an album coming soon. He's been somewhat quiet when it comes to his politics of late i am fucking nervous i'm nervous but i'm also this is the first time i've been encouraged by anything coming out of yeah the kanye universe uh since he put on the mega hat i
Starting point is 01:01:02 mean for me he still has to answer for all that shit. The A-Hive has been in shambles for the past few years. It's been real rough. There's been a schism. There really has. Well, because you had all these young Trumpian kids really coming in the scene and making Trump memes. And I was like, I'm going to have to catch some fades. Put one to your high school kid and I'll knock you the fuck out.
Starting point is 01:01:24 And then take your Yeezys. And then take your Yeezys. And then take your Yeezys. Hey, what size are you really? Yeah, yeah, what size? Nine, never mind. Nine, all right. But yeah, no, it's very interesting because, yeah, because I think it's very formulaic too
Starting point is 01:01:37 because it's very obvious that Ye says wild shit to promo the album. So the fact that he hasn't said anything wild and just been doing these pop-up Sunday services, which also he hasn't really been pushing more than just like Kim posting a video. Last weekend, this last weekend was the first time there was one live streamed from start to finish that you could actually see what it looked like.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Yeah, usually it's been just clipped out. Yeah. But I think this is why, this is how he's actually promoing the album yeah was it through that pinhole camera that they used on the coachella oh no whatever the fuck that was that was fucking it was rough oh man sounded great yeah well this thing is like you know there's they're pointing to like it used to just be here and there and now it's starting to come up more and more regularly like right anyone would if you were except last time he was just saying just wacky shit about politics before right i think now i don't know if he's realizing he's like you know what let me sort of
Starting point is 01:02:34 reset my outlook on things yeah and figure it out i still don't know though because he did say something recently about the maga hat like in the last few months that wasn't a disavow he was just more like i don't i don't want to talk about politics anymore but also like i can wear whatever the fuck well it's it's it's definitely that like that because here's the thing we all know kanye runs off of that edgelord energy i think personally if you sat him down and was like policy for policy trump Trump shit, he'd be like, nah, nah, nah. But it's the fact that it made so many people so mad. And the fact that people were like,
Starting point is 01:03:09 you can't do that. Yeah. That he was like, Oh, I'm a double down on this. And I think that's the, the also very Trumpian. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Yeah. That's the very, the similar thing he has with Trump where it's like, if someone tells him that he can't do something, then he'll do it. I'm like that some ways, only with very specific things. Like the writer, I forget his name, who left Star Trek because someone told HR that he set the nigga in the room.
Starting point is 01:03:33 I was like, oh, I wouldn't have left. I would have made them fire me so I can tweet about me being fired for saying nigga. Did you hear about that? What happened? There was a black writer who at some point in the Star Trek writer's room said the N-word. For TNG or the latest one? The latest one. And HR called him and was like, hey, we're calling about the use of the N-word in the room.
Starting point is 01:03:55 He was like, yeah, I am the N-word in the room. What the fuck? Yeah. And so he just kind of, because he's a successful writer, he just dipped from the show. So he just kind of, he was like, all right, fuck y'all and left the show. But now it's all this shine. And I think outside of him, the room is just a lot of white dudes. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:15 You know, which is like, which I'm like, I would love to know who snitched because that's my biggest pet peeve is when like white people are like, you know, I just don't like the word. And I was like, I don't give a fuck what you like yeah how about that how about that how about that nigga oh god like oh is it cool if i rap along with you and that's what i know it's so funny people are so funny about that because people have like good intentions you know about it where it's like ah I just don't want to accidentally rap along. It's like, so what? If you're in your car alone, cool. If you're on stage at a Kendrick concert and there's a mic to your mouth,
Starting point is 01:04:52 don't. Or out loud where other people can hear you. Yeah. Don't do it. Here's the thing. How about this? Just train yourself that maybe there's things in this world you can't have. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Like, you know, I love jerking my dick off. You know, I'm not going to do it in public. Good for you, man. We applaud you. I think that's the same thing. Look, if you got to say it so bad, if it's so, if it's killing you, you got to say, nigga, you just got to. You just, the song don't hit the same. Cool.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Then when you're in your room alone Go ahead go crazy Out in the world get ready for some feedback Cause it's coming your way But this new album is supposed to be All Jesus Which means it's probably going to be a pass for me It's probably going to be the first Kanye album I don't like
Starting point is 01:05:41 You liked Ye? I liked Ye It was a bottom of the list track I don't like. You liked Yay? I liked Yay. Oh, you did not? It was a bottom of the list track, but there were some tracks that hit for me. Okay. But I grew up in a church household. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:07 I've had lots of Donnie McClurkin, Kirk Franklin, T.D. Jakes, all of the gospel stuff, and I just do not like it. Shout out to the band. I don't like – and I know there's some very churchy folks clutching their pro. It's like, look, I had to listen to it so much as a kid. I don't like it. I don't like it in my rap music. If I'm at church, if I'm at – for some reason I got drugged to church and y'all tearing it up, I'm fucking with it. But as far as like in my secular music, I do not like it. Do not blur the secular and the sacred with that music.
Starting point is 01:06:34 He might be the only musician who can make music about Jesus and God that I don't feel that way. Like Ultralight Beam and Jesus Walks are good tracks. Like, it doesn't bother me. Those are good tracks. Those, I have to truly be in the mood to listen to it. Yeah, yeah. I can't listen. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Like, if Ultralight Beam was like, nah, let's go to the fucking in the party song. Right, right. Would everybody fucking start fucking? Would everybody start fucking? I know. People were like, this is so dumb. I'm like, nah, this is so dumb I'm like nah this is tight I love it
Starting point is 01:07:06 what if we fucking the middle of this ballpark that beat too is so hard the way he's fucking in the booth like you know what yeah what if we
Starting point is 01:07:13 what if we fuck right now yeah what the fuck okay I still love that that's that unhinged rap that I want you know not the yay
Starting point is 01:07:21 but right there where you're just saying shit in the booth that really hits. I mean, this track list sounds like a full-on service.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Yeah. Right. Glade. Glade, I mean, that sounds more like plug-in, but garden.
Starting point is 01:07:35 That would be a sick drug track called Glade because it's about the plug. Oh, yeah. Wow. But it's not going to be about that. Yeah, Jesus is my plug. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:07:45 God is baptized. Hands on. Wake the dead. Water through the valley. Sunday. Sweet Jesus. Sweet Jesus. This could be a platinum gospel album.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Can you imagine Kanye picking up his gospel BET award? I'm telling you. Gospel Twitter would be tight. I'm curious to know if Donald Trump has a feature on this album or a sample. Right. You know, where he's like, hey, God knows I want to congratulate you. Like a phone interlude. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Just like the Silver Surfer interlude, but with Trump. The Max B. Yeah. Yeezy, yeezy, yeezy. Yeah. Yeezy, yeezy, yeezy. I don't know if he's on that. He's like, hey, you're on a wave right now, my man.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Yeah, that's probably what Trump would say. Yeah, well, we'll see, man. Let's talk about White Claw real quick. Public service announcement. Have you ever drank White Claw? Yeah, I've finally tasted the White Claw. I kept seeing it because there were nonstop write-ups from maybe spring this year
Starting point is 01:08:46 into now about like yo about the claw man people fucking getting clawed up they getting clobbered whatever the fuck they call it uh because i think it's smart you basically took the seltzer wave the lacroix wave and alcoholized it who was a fight it. And now you have something that, like, just a familiar flavor. Okay, so in the last year, they've had triple digit sales growth. And now, this has led to just, there's like a crisis now. Like, you thought the Popeye's chicken sandwich was hard to get. Apparently,
Starting point is 01:09:16 in certain parts of the country, you cannot get claw nowhere. Yeah. Bro, I had a dream last night that I went to a Popeye's, got the chicken sandwich, and it just wasn't that good. It kept falling apart as I tried to eat it. I've never had the Popeye's chicken sandwich, yet somehow it's infiltrated my brain. That is such a night-ghosty nightmare.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Yeah, like when it's falling apart, you mean like the second you try and bite it? Yeah, it kept like falling, and I'm like, no, I need to know what it tastes like. You ever dream that your teeth are falling out oh no but like when i see something weird my teeth get soft have you ever seen like that scene in the boys where like one of the character it gets revealed that they have gills and it just looks like it's that uncanny valley but on the more leaning of like oh this looks like it could be real. And she sticks her fingers in it. And even talking about it now, my molars are so soft.
Starting point is 01:10:08 It's just such a- Wait, what do you mean soft? The feeling of your teeth. It feels like my teeth are melting. Oh, weird. Yeah, like it just, anytime something is weird or unnerves, my teeth feel soft.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Whoa. Damn. Hey. An insight into the mind of iffy wordy way. There was a quote from the vice president of marketing. They said, we are working around the clock to increase supply given the rapid
Starting point is 01:10:33 growth in consumer demand. I mean, that shit seems like it would be real easy to make. Despite reported shortages, we are excited to report that market share has continued. They're basically saying, look, we fucked up. We're not making enough, but people are still loving it. There's a quote from this dude who owns Goody Goody Liquor in Fort Worth, Texas. They say they can't keep White Claw in stock for more than a couple of days. It says it doesn't matter how much White Claw we get in. Just about any amount
Starting point is 01:10:57 of the cases we bring in will be gone in the next couple of days. The people buying it are getting in early and getting a lot knowing it will sell out this sounds like me with my kirkland signature cold brew yeah that's just what i was thinking of yeah you really did so did you get confirmation because i remember someone said they worked at i'm still waiting to hear officially from costco but you know what look you got to be ready for everything yeah you know it's a white claw is five percent it's like a beer basically yeah that amount of yeah but it tastes it tastes like water tastes like water it's dangerous you can burn through that shit right it's like the first time uh you had a smirnoff ice right oh my god but it's not
Starting point is 01:11:35 overpowering right like it's yeah no no no like it's very subtle you're like oh there's booze in here but yeah you're like a vodka soda we're like yeah you're just getting the vodka you because like with me I'll burn through three LaCroix's easy. So like I can see myself just chilling, you know, talking and burning through those because you're like, oh, it's just water. I'm getting hydrated. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:55 The secret to capitalism, give out a really addictive, fun product. And yeah, yeah. Everybody's drug dealers. Thank God. Yeah. Like us every day like that's that's the only that's the only time you see growth like that is when it's either like alcohol tobacco uh like junk food like the they they achieve that sort of growth with lunchables
Starting point is 01:12:18 yeah i'll just make it habitual yeah make it well habitual and have a chemical in it that is literally addictive. What's in Lunchables? Lunchables, they manufactured it with like salt, fat combinations. Oh, like sugar, just like that. Yeah. Mouth feel. Like they like spent months perfecting it in a lab. I used to not eat the crackers in the Lunchables. I thought they were a waste of time.
Starting point is 01:12:43 Oh, man. And then my mom would get mad at me. She saw me eating just the meat and the cheese, and she's like, hello. I'm like, it's just dry. I know. No. You were being keto. Yeah, at the time.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Baby keto miles. My mom was calling me motainai in Japanese, being wasteful. So I had to eat the crackers with nothing because I'd already spent. Oh, she would make you eat them? She was like, you better eat them fucking shits. Because I remember at the time I was begging her to let me fit in with the white kids at school. Yeah. I never got Lunchables.
Starting point is 01:13:13 I got Lunchables a few times and then I was eating them when I like not for school lunch. She's like, why did I? This is just some snack to you? I had the same sack lunch from like third grade until I went away to boarding school. What was... To Hogwarts? Yeah, Hogwarts. Damn.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Yeah. Until I got on that train. Yeah. What did you... Oh, is this PB&J? PB&J. Bag of chips? Like some pretzels, an apple.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Man, that lunch PB&J hit different because the thing about it is it's made in the morning. And so the PB and J like fuse with the bread in a way that you just don't, you don't get it until you get it. My dad had a technique where he put peanut butter on both sides and then the jelly in between. And that would keep it from like. Gelifying. Gelifying the bread. Wow.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Innovator. That's PB and J's. Well, shit. Iffy. It's beenator. Always a big fan of this PB&Js. Well, shit, Ify, it's been a pleasure having you. It's been a pleasure being here. Let's go get some PB&J. Yeah. And a lunchable. Where can people find you?
Starting point is 01:14:14 You know where y'all can find me. If you want to find me, I-F-Y-N-W-A-D-I-W-E on Twitter and Instagram. If D's on Twitch. Thanks to all the Zeitgang that pops through every now and then. Just as a reminder, I don't get to remind you as frequently as I do the NerdFam on Nerdificent, but if you hit me with a Twitch Prime sub, it doesn't automatically recur, so you got to come back.
Starting point is 01:14:34 You got to come back at least once a month to see me play WoW Classic or Apex Legends. But come through, say what's up, and I'm going to say what's up. And then we'll get it in. There we go. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, yes. So the tweet that I'm feeling is by Nicole Thurman, which because I felt read by it,
Starting point is 01:14:54 it's this is an L.A. native introducing themselves in any setting. Yeah. It goes as such. Unlike most of you in this room, I am an LA native. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. I'm an LA native, so.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Wow, right? I'm a valley girl. But like a real one, you know? Not like you guys. I'm a real one because I'm from here. And really, welcome to all of you transients. Just welcome. Thank you so much for being here
Starting point is 01:15:24 in my home state of California. I was born in Los Angeles. Thank you. really welcome to all of you transients just welcome thank you so much for being here uh in my home state of california i was born in los angeles thank you it's so good yeah i love it and it is definitely me yeah yeah attacked and seen simultaneously a lot for me especially like i'm from the valley and i was like yes i am yeah yeah but you know what you got to hold it down yeah you know you gotta let where you're to hold it down. Yeah, you know, you got to let people know. Where are you from? Yeah. Sorry, we're from the place everyone wants to go to.
Starting point is 01:15:49 Yeah, yeah. Whatever you do. Sorry my parents fucked here. Gross. Miles, where can people find you, follow you? You can find me, follow me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. Like a few tweets today that aren't from Reductress. The first one is from Amelia Elizalde.
Starting point is 01:16:07 It said at Amelia Elizalde, it says have not slept with my work crush because he is quote married and quote has a family and quote hasn't asked me. Also this one, next one is from Billy Wayne Davis. Jeremy Renner just chopped down a tree in my yard and said it was free because I'm a Prime member? That's hilarious. Some tweets I've been enjoying.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Dumb Blondes Club tweeted, you know what, Beach Boys? Yeah, it would be fucking nice. Um, and Cullen, hello Cullen, tweeted, there's nothing stopping a condom company from saying they're the only condoms worn by Santa Claus. Jenny Jaffe tweeted in response to the news that Sarah Palin is getting a divorce that Todd Palin is single. Oh, fuck. Yeah. said Todd Palin is single. Oh, fuck. Yeah. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
Starting point is 01:17:13 We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on miles what's it gonna be uh this is a track from jonti j-o-n-t-i featuring steve lacy who's one of my favorite producers and guitar players right now collaborators of many great artists um and yeah it's a track from the vampire weekend though yeah yeah just check and also he has his own album that came out this year. And yeah, he's, I think, LA-based, but I'm pretty sure he's from South Africa.
Starting point is 01:17:51 But this one's called Screwed, S-C-R-O-O-D. And, you know, it has a good, nice band feel here and live instruments with a little bit of a stank on it. Oh, man. How embarrassed is he going to be when he realizes that's not how you spell that? Oh, boy. Ooh, is he going to be when he realizes that's not how you spell that? Oh, boy. Ooh, he's going to be screwed. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio,
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