The Daily Zeitgeist - Bye Paul-icia! Narc Suckerberg Goes To Washington 4.11.18

Episode Date: April 11, 2018

In episode 124, Jack & Miles are joined by writer & performer Billy Scafuri to discuss Mark Zuckerberg's testimony in front of congress, some more unstable comments from Trump about sneak atta...cks and possibly firing Mueller, Paul Ryan deciding not to run for re-election, Margaret Atwood blaming 9/11 on Star Wars, Robert Kraft meeting with Meek Mill, Tristan Thompson's shady behavior, Chuck Grassley announcing a bill to protect Mueller, & more.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone
Starting point is 00:00:45 in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady Rebel. Like, what does that even mean? It's right here in black and white in print. It's bigger than a flag or mascot. Listen to Rebel Spirit
Starting point is 00:00:58 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What happens when a professional football player's career ends and the applause fades and the screaming fans move on? or wherever you get your podcasts. answers. You mix homesteading with guns and church. Voila! You got straight away. They try to save everybody. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In California during the summer of 1975, within the span of 17 days and less than 90 miles, two women did something no other woman had done before, try to assassinate the President of the
Starting point is 00:01:43 United States. One was the protege of Charles Manson. 26-year-old Lynette Fromm, nicknamed Squeaky. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer, this season on the new podcast, Rip Current. Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free
Starting point is 00:02:04 and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeartTrue Crime Plus only on Apple Podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 26, episode 3 of Data Daily's 8th Geist. Yeah. We're April 11th, 2018. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Lying in bed like Jack O'Brien Wilson did. That is courtesy of Ralphie Parker at Evolved Further.
Starting point is 00:02:31 And I'm joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. And all my life, I prayed for someone like you. I prayed for someone like you. Yeah. And I thank daily zeitgeist that I finally found you. All my life, I prayed for someone like you. And I hope that you feel the same way too. Dig in.
Starting point is 00:03:05 The whole Casey and JoJo catalog. I know, yeah. I hope Casey and JoJo are not problematic. I know they were broke for a second, but anyway, that AKA comes from Kellen T.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Thank you for that one because you know anything about me, I will scream sing 90s R&B all day. So for all you guys trying to unlock the secret to getting
Starting point is 00:03:18 an AKA, cleverly insert my name into a 90s R&B hit and you are locked in. There you go. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious writer, performer, and member of one of the all-time great sketch groups, the Harvard Sailing Team.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Please welcome Billy Scafuri. I am not equipped with a song, and I apologize. Damn it, Billy. As a guy who loves song, I'm sad that I don't have one prepared. You love song? Love song. Got a musical background? My father's a musician.
Starting point is 00:03:46 He's a professional musician. What does he play? He plays the piano and he sings. Nice. You got some pipes? I can sing, but not confidently. Give me a couple bars. All my life I prayed for someone like you Oh, shit! We'll just leave it there.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Wow! Leave them wanting more. You can't have the fucking dude off the show, man. You can't have the fucking yes one up me like that. Yeah. That was embarrassing, Miles. Well, check this out, Jack. Not an idea.
Starting point is 00:04:10 No, Miles. I'm sorry, Jack. That's my bad, Jack. Sorry, bud. No, hold on, Jack. Hold on. I'll do another one. I just didn't give him my best shot.
Starting point is 00:04:18 No, see, the problem was he heard me sing it first, so he jumped my stop. So let's pick a neutral song to start over on, and I can reclaim the throne as the worst singer. What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are as a human being? As a recent search history, I looked into my Google, and the most recent search I had was the four words, Wendy's neck says mom. Allow me to contextualize.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Wendy's neck says mom. Wendy, the fast food logo, and redheaded girl yep um she wears like some sort of dress that gets cut off right at the top but if you look at the neckline of her dress there's red stripes that go north to south but if you look carefully those lines spell the word mom what the fuck oh whoa look at that so i to see, because nothing in advertising is by accident, if this means something. So I searched, and apparently, according to the one website I found, it's by accident. What do you guys think? Nah, man.
Starting point is 00:05:15 They're trying to tell you, this is your mom, just like mom made. Because Wendy's whole thing is like, they've got that home cooking. They give you baked potatoes, just like your mom would. Mom would never freeze her patties. Right, exactly. Square patties, sort of janky thing that you would get at home. Well, you know, Dave Thomas, the founder, was famously abandoned by his mother. So that could have been a cry for help.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Is that true? No, I just made that up. How the fuck do you know? I was like, how's that not the top hit? I searched. That's the only reason I feel like Dave Thomas has to be behind it. Damn, Wendy's neck does say mom. It's kind of like the FedEx logo.
Starting point is 00:05:49 You see the arrow pointing right? Are you guys familiar with that? Now I can't not see mom in Wendy's neck. So that's why my most recent search. Or the naked man on the Camel Cigarettes logo. Oh, yeah. Upside down? Is that what this is?
Starting point is 00:06:01 No, he's standing in one of the legs. It's like a dude standing like this, straight up. Just look at the front legs of the camel guy. 15 years old was great subliminal messaging age for Bill. Right. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated American cheese.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I feel like it gets a lot of hate. The older you get, I feel like people like to talk about fancy cheeses. And that kind of pushes what I was raised on to the back. And now it's turned into hate. So I want to champion American cheese again. I'm a guy who melts cheese on stuff. I don't make cheese boards.
Starting point is 00:06:34 I make grilled cheeses. I make hot dogs with cheese. I make cheeseburgers. My ideal cheese, American cheese. Hot dogs with cheese. Yeah, why not? So you lay a little slice. Yeah, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Why not? Do you lay it in the. Yeah, fuck it. Why not? Do you lay it in the bun first? Yes. Or you lay it on, there you go. Toasted bun. Yep, toasted bun, cheese underneath. And on that note, if I can just say, when you're getting it. Can he say?
Starting point is 00:06:54 Can I just say? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fine. Thank you. An ice cream cup, get the toppings on the bottom. Because once you eat all the toppings off of the top, now just ice cream. So get a little toppings on the bottom, ice cream, and then toppings on top. So you're saying toppings on the bottom, ice cream, like fruit on the bottom, yogurt.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Exactly. And cheese on everything. Now, Jack will tell you one of his other favorite conspiracies about the push for cheese being eaten, right? What's that? It was in the 80s. Oh, yeah. About why cheese suddenly became a huge thing in our diets. So when skim milk happened in the early 80s,
Starting point is 00:07:25 they were left with all this excess like milk fat and milk lard. Okay. So the dairy farmers were like, we got to do something with this. And so they found a way to like convince fast food restaurants. So basically it was not like a diabolical scheme where they had like arrows drawn out. It was just like like we have all this stuff we're gonna sell it off to you it's basically them unloading excess milk lard the way that uh andy and shawshank redemption would just like unload the sand in the prison yard they were
Starting point is 00:07:55 they were just like look man we got so much cheese like find a way to put it in your food and you're gonna make a lot more money god bless that day. That is why we are fat. What's your favorite fancy cheese? Fancy cheese, I guess it's like brie. I'm Irish. My mom always served brie. You like that melty shit. Yeah, I like that soft, soft melty shit. You would do like an encrute, brie encrute.
Starting point is 00:08:16 See, that's above my, I have no, I don't know. Just put it in the pastry. Got it. I'll eat it. What's something that is overrated? The Pledge of Allegiance. The whole thing, I'm not a big fan of speaking in unison. When I went to church, I was never comfortable looking at the thing on the wall and all of us just agreeing to say these things.
Starting point is 00:08:33 That's just who I am. And then the Pledge of Allegiance to me was like, now it's coming to the classroom. And so I don't know if you guys have ever felt this way, but I've never understood or felt attached to the Pledge of Allegiance. No, just some shit you did in the morning. I did it habitually. Someone told me you do this, so we do this now. I had to pledge allegiance to two fucking flags in school. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:08:50 The American flag and the Christian flag. Whoa. Yes. What's the Christian flag? Oh, let me tell you. Hold on. Let me see if I can do it off memory. It's I pledge allegiance to the Christian flag
Starting point is 00:09:00 and to the Savior for whose kingdom it stands. What? One Savior crucified, risen, and some other crazy shit. Yo, we had to fucking salute both fucking flags in the morning. Wow. Yeah. What did the flag look like? It's like an American flag, but with no bars, just all white.
Starting point is 00:09:18 And then where the stars would be, it was just a cross. Wow. I've never heard of that before. Interesting. What kind of school was this? This was a Lutheran school. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Interesting. What kind of school is this? This is a Lutheran school. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Cool. Yeah, and at the time, it was just one of those things that it was just, like, we gave it no thought. It was just the shit we said out loud. Same. Yeah. Yeah, we would say the Our Father in a Catholic school. In the morning? Yeah, in the morning.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Wow. I didn't do that. I went to Catholic high school, and they didn't make us do that, because it was kind of, like, super mixed up. So it was, like, a Catholic high school, but most people weren't catholic in it yeah so but it was weird they still taught people about like the stations of the cross and shit and we're like sneak it in yeah like my classmates are like jewish or muslim and other stuff we're like all right bro like cool for sure nailed it yeah i mean the pledge is fairly like it's not a thing that the founding fathers like knew about for instance but also like would have been on board with.
Starting point is 00:10:05 But it's a fairly recent invention. Is it? Yeah, it was written in 1892. When Columbus sailed the ocean blue. Exactly. Whoops. There goes the pen. There goes the pen.
Starting point is 00:10:18 But have you seen the picture of all the kids standing around saluting the flag during the pledge? What do you mean? Did you just do a Hitler salute? Yeah, so back before Hitler was a thing, that's what kids did during the national anthem was do a Nazi salute to the American flag. And then once people are like,
Starting point is 00:10:38 oh, that was a bad look for the Nazis. Put your hand on your heart. Yeah, put your hand on your heart. Twist at 90 degrees and fold it inward. Right. I mean, honestly, at this point, the messaging would visually be the same. I saw people going like, I pledge allegiance to the United States of America. Yeah, pledging
Starting point is 00:10:49 allegiance is a pretty, just like, scary thing to me. Yeah, I agree. I think that's a good overrated. But I mean, it's like a thing where most people don't give a thought. I don't know how effective that pledge was because I take my hat off at the NBA games I go to. You know, there's like all these things I just habitually do, but I've started to consider it a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:11:06 What am I pledging allegiance to? So there's that. If I have a lot of food and beer in my lap, I will not stand. That's fucked up. Yeah, well, hey, look, Mahmoud Nadour Raouf gave me that. Do you do the prayer thing with your hands upturned? No, no.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Holding the nachos in those two hands. I pledge allegiance to these fine concessions. All right. And finally, Billy, what is a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false? Well, I read that if you go to Disneyland and you see the Toy Story characters there, if you approach them and tell them Andy's coming, they'll fall to the floor like the toys in the movie Disneyland. The mascots walking around the park, if you tell them from Toy Story, Andy's coming, they'll fall to the floor like the toys in the movie Disneyland. The mascots walking around the park, if you tell them from Toy Story, Andy's coming, they'll fall. So I went to Disneyland with that expectation in mind. Just to do that. Exactly. That evoked the kid in me where I was like, that is so fun and playful. I would love to experience that. So we beeline to Disneyland. If you're reading that fact on the internet just think about
Starting point is 00:12:05 that for a second right get there get see woody beeline it to woody approach woody whisper in his ear he's not talking to anybody else hey andy's coming woody turns around and just gives me a hug so that's a big disappointment out of here my man stayed on his feet the whole time yeah those toys will not fall despite your requests. Now, were there follow-up replies to that being like, hey, motherfucker, I went and they didn't do it. I'm a fucking asshole. I'm not the type of person who then goes back online for another negative review.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Oh, I would. I was sitting in my sadness. You made me look foolish. I was like, that was one of the more unsatisfying hugs of my entire life. I was like, you should be on the ground, young man. Because I can't imagine that Buzz Lightyear suit looks expensive. What the fuck is this? I mean, what a fun thing to imagine, them falling to the ground.
Starting point is 00:12:50 I bet that if it did initially happen, it was a thing that the internet ruined because they just had to spend their entire day on the ground. And then ruining the costume. Because a prick from Long Island like me, as soon as they would stand up, I'd say, hey, Andy's coming. And then they went to Paul again. Andy's coming again, man. Get up. Andy's coming. Hey, man, he's still coming, exactly. Because a prick from Long Island like me, as soon as they would stand up, I'd say, hey, Andy's coming. And then they went to Paul again. Andy's coming again, man. Get up.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Andy's coming. Hey, man, he's still coming, bro. Stay down. Yeah. I didn't say Andy wasn't coming anymore. Ah. They unionized to get that out of them. Oh, you misheard me.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I said Candy's coming. See? Ah. But now Andy's coming. Uh-oh. They just take a knee. Right. All right.
Starting point is 00:13:22 We're trying to take a sample of the global shared consciousness, or at least the national one. And we're talking about the things people are thinking and talking about right now. And the thing that people are thinking and talking about right now is Mark Zuckerberg's testimony in front of Congress. Testimony is, I don't know if that's the, that seems like a misnomer. Right. Seemed like an IRL FAQ for older people about how Facebook works. So that was a thing that happened. So you could tell that a lot of these elderly congresspeople would have these prepared remarks from their younger staffers who had done all the legwork. And as long as they stuck to those remarks and the first question, they were all good. And then they would just get distracted by something he said and would suddenly be like,
Starting point is 00:14:13 wait, now how's that work? Because you said that it's free. And how do you make money then? I like the St. Louis Cardinals page. And I was getting information about the Brewers. Something's not right. Right. I thought it was weird that he addressed everyone as Senator without their last name.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Well. It was like calling everyone Mr. Like a child. Say Mr. That was the other thing we found out yesterday is that he's 5'7". Yeah. I didn't realize he's 5'7". I didn't either.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Interesting. Everyone showed, they're like, look, he's on a booster seat, which is actually, to be fair, common practice because- And also, it's like a back thing. Like Phil Jackson had that too. Well, right, but some people, like James Comey wouldn't need the booster seat because he's like 600 feet tall. He's out of frame.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Yeah, he's out of frame. You know what I mean? But like, yeah, if you're 5'7", and also, I know it's crazy because you could clearly tell his PR people are very protective about how he's shot, like photographically, because I wouldn't have known just based on photographs that he was only five seven yeah no i had no idea you guess he was i thought he was like probably five nine or ten five ten five eleven five eleven but not six foot not six we never put him in a six footer after so many meetings so many celebrities in real life i never assume anyone is six feet tall yeah right. Right. Right. You always think they are because how shots are framed and things like that.
Starting point is 00:15:25 But then you're like, you're five, eight. Right. But yeah, he's a wee man. And yeah, there were some interesting moments, but for the most part, it did seem like they were just asking him to explain Facebook in a lot of moments. You know, the younger Congress people, you know, like took it to him, like Senator Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris actually had valid questions that were pretty interesting. But some of the issues that were raised was Facebook's involvement in Myanmar, which I knew that people had credited Facebook with spreading some of the hate speech that eventually led to basically genocide. But I actually heard an expert on Facebook talking about it today. And she was basically saying it's
Starting point is 00:16:15 completely inexcusable what they did because people were like, there is all this hate speech being spread right now. And you guys aren't doing anything. Like Facebook is triumph of the will currently in our country. It is spreading hatred currently actively. And, you know, it really brought into focus for me. And this was something that was raised during the conversation. fitness to run this company, like the things that made him good at creating this giant product that everybody likes are not the things that will make you good at running a global community. Like he is being expected, like a lot of the things we're asking him to do
Starting point is 00:16:58 are things that a servant of people would do, somebody who's selfless and just is trying to make everybody's lives as good as possible. And somebody who is like community minded and management minded. And the thing that he's extremely good at is just like making a cool product that creates services for people like him. I don't think he's that interested in, you know, being on the ground in Myanmar and figuring out how that works. Well, you could tell, too, because even when that he did that CNN interview like a few weeks ago, he was like, if you told me in 2004, I would be here talking about like, you know, the dangers of Facebook to like a legitimate Democratic election. I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:17:41 what the heck are you talking about? Yeah, he doesn't have the interest, and I don't think, you know, he felt like his work's done, and I'm like, you know, what do you want me to do? I'm just going to sit on my pile of 60 plus billion dollars and count it all day. I don't mean to jump the gun, I don't know if you're going to touch on it, but like, this feels like such a direct parallel to Trump, where it just like, wasn't last week, didn't a video come out where someone asked Donald Trump, they were like, what advice would you give yourself
Starting point is 00:18:00 10 years ago? And he was like, don't run for president. Really? Yeah, he was like, he just like said that, and it was like a laugh line but like, you could tell that it's like, these things sound great. And when any project is getting started, if you get her off the ground, congratulations. But like, to your point, you have to then start putting in people who are selfless, who are going to be able to oversee it, to nurture it and go on to your next idea. But I'm with you. It's like at some point, a certain responsibility has to be taken by Facebook. You need somebody who's at least as powerful as him, running a massive business. And like, you know, that I think that was a big failing of mine because like, that's just not what I was in a position to do. You know, that's not what I was trained at or
Starting point is 00:18:55 good at. Maybe Mark can hire Barack Obama. Yeah. That's the type of person that we need. A man of the people. He could work from home, hopefully. Or like somebody from the UN or something something because that's essentially what they need we're also asking him to do things for which he wouldn't get credit which you know like stopping a uh you know a genocide before it happens right is not a thing that you get credit for right unfortunately that's just not how the stats that don't get in the playbook kind of. Right, exactly. It's like the things that didn't happen is,
Starting point is 00:19:28 and like we just need them to find somebody who that's going to be their entire focus. Yeah, well, I mean, did you guys delete your Facebooks? And it seems like that's been a groundswell. I haven't. You should delete your Facebooks. I use it so sparingly that like once I looked at what categories that they had,
Starting point is 00:19:44 because you can find out what ad categories Facebook was able to put you in based on what they know. Right. I had used it so little that I felt like, okay, you really, you might not know much, but that's not just the only way Facebook gets you, which is sort of kind of what it seemed like a lot of people during these testimonies were trying to get at. Right. Because a lot of the stuff was everyone was saying like, you're selling people's personal data. You're selling people's personal data, you're selling people's personal data, you're selling people's personal data. And he's like, well, no, we're not selling the data.
Starting point is 00:20:08 We have the data that allows us to have a laser guided advertising, targeted advertising. And so, you know, we're not selling the data. We're using the hell out of it. Yeah, right, right. We're selling access to you, essentially. And I do think Super Producer Nick Stumpf was pointing out that some
Starting point is 00:20:25 of the questions that people were like, look at this dumb old person like Orrin Hatch being like, so how the hell are you going to make money if you're giving it away for free? And him being like, we sell ads, Senator. First of all, that was like, okay, yeah, I get why you're an asshole. I get exactly the type of asshole you are. But also, I think Hatch might have been trying to make the point that, you know, okay, so you're selling something. You're making money somehow. If we're not paying you, like, what the fuck is happening? Yeah, exactly. And he's like, we're selling access to everyone, basically.
Starting point is 00:21:01 We're not the data. And he was really clear on repeating. I think he repeated that same line like eight times throughout the testimony, because he had his little note sheet that he was using, and I feel like that was probably highlighted 900 times to tell people, we're not selling personal data. Right. Facebook uses your data to sell access to you.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Yeah. Senator. Senator. Oh, Senator. Mr. Senator. Senator. Senator. Mr. Yeah. you yeah um senator senator oh yeah senator mr senator senator a uh a perpetual awkward sears portrait studio photo of a sleep-deprived person and uh yeah we'll see how today goes but man he uh dude looks like he needs a good night's sleep uh it looks like he has not taken a solid shit in about a year yeah he's mr is Mr. Diarrhea for sure.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Your lower intestine closes up when you go to the hill, right? I feel like that's a solid week where you're like, I'm not going to be regular now. You begin to toxify. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now.
Starting point is 00:22:14 The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Bruce Bazzi.
Starting point is 00:22:55 On my podcast, Table for Two, we have unforgettable lunch after unforgettable lunch with the best guest you could possibly ask for. People like Matt Bomer. Thank you for that introduction. I'm going to slip you a couple 20s under the table for that. Emma Roberts. When it came into my email inbox, I was like,
Starting point is 00:23:12 okay, I know I'm going to love this so much that I don't even want to read it. Because if I can't be in it, I'm going to be bummed. And Colin Jost. You know, your wife was the first guest on Table for Two. It's come full circle. As long as I do better than her, I'm happy. Table for Two is a bit different from other interview shows. We sit down at a great restaurant for a meal,
Starting point is 00:23:32 maybe a glass of rosé, and the stories start flowing. Our second season is airing right now, so you can catch up on our conversations that are intimate, surprising, and often hilarious. Listen to Table for Two with Bruce Bozzi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black.
Starting point is 00:24:27 I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:24:50 The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds. Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I just don't believe they exist. My reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And so we all woke up this morning to President Trump just being crazy, unstable, bragging that he's about to fire missiles into Syria and he'd like to see Russia try and stop them, essentially, like just mocking them. He's lost it. Like, it's crazy. Dude's been lost.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Right. Been lost in. Osama been lost in. But yeah, so, I mean, just to summarize the past couple days, he canceled his trip to South America, so I mean, just to summarize the past couple days, he canceled his trip to South America ostensibly to address the serious situation, the chemical attack that happened over the weekend. But then, you know, his lawyer's offices were raided. And apparently that just sent him off, you know, spinning in a totally different direction because he then skipped the meeting about Syria yesterday, like the one where people were determining what to do about this.
Starting point is 00:26:49 You know, Pence went in his stead. I'm sure everybody at that meeting was fucking so relieved by that. He skipped that meeting to go have dinner with Alan Dershowitz, you know, TV lawyer, Alan Dershowitz to just because Dershowitz was the person on TV being like this Mueller guy's way out of hand.
Starting point is 00:27:08 And hire me, hire me. Anyway, you have the power to do it. Hire me. He surrounds himself with people who tell him what he wants to be told. Oh, yes. So that's what he did last night while everybody was making decisions about Syria. And then he woke up this morning and probably like something inside of him was like, oh yeah, I'm supposed to be focused on this national security thing. And so just started
Starting point is 00:27:31 talking spicy at Russia about how, you know, they can try and stop his missiles, but his missiles are so smart that they're going to get through, which is just like, what if they do stop the missiles? You dumb motherfucker. I mean, listen to this tweet and you tell me if this is someone gonna they're gonna get through which is just like what if they do stop the missiles you don't mother fuck i mean this listen to this tweet and you tell me if this is someone who has their shit together in any way russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at syria get ready russia because they will be coming nice and new and quote unquote smart you shouldn't be partners with a gas killing animal who kills his people and enjoys it uh-huh that's diplomacy i guess i don't know what the fuck but that's good you know uh because i
Starting point is 00:28:12 think one of the main tenants of warfare is the element of surprise right you know as i think donald according to him right i mean like a point that people have made is that you're not supposed to bomb a city without you know telling them ahead of time so they can get their civilians out of the way, which, you know, is counterintuitive. But it's also just the humane thing to do. But as we talked about earlier this week, when they showed him a video of a drone that waited till somebody left a crowd to, you know, kill them. Yeah, like his home, I think. Right. To leave his home.
Starting point is 00:28:43 He was like, why'd you wait? And they were like, because we didn't want to kill the innocent people. He was like, I think. Right, to leave his home. He was like, why'd you wait? And they were like, because we didn't want to kill the innocent people. He was like, don't wait. Don't worry about that. So that's not what he's concerned about in sending this tweet. He's just concerned about making sure
Starting point is 00:28:54 that we associate these big smart missiles with his dick, I think. Right. So this is a long-term thing. This is specifically contradicting what he said he was going to do when he came into office. I think we have audio of him telling Hillary why her and Obama were so stupid.
Starting point is 00:29:10 And just everyone about why the element of surprise is so important. Right. The biggest problem I have with the stupidity of our foreign policy, we are totally predictable. Whatever happened to the element of surprise? I will not say when we are going to attack, but attack we will. So we have announcements coming out of Washington and coming out of Iraq. We will be attacking Mosul in three weeks or four weeks. We tell everything.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Why can't they do it quietly? The element of surprise. We're sending troops, we tell them. Why can't they do the attack, make it a sneak attack? We're sending something else we have a news conference douglas mcgarthur george patton spinning in their graves when they see the stupidity of our country but i'm sure they're all about him just tweeting out the hey russia look at my big smart missile literally typing shit ready, Russia, because they will be coming.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I think my favorite clip in all of that was, we'll do a sneak attack. Yeah. Like, what room of military men are convinced when that guy
Starting point is 00:30:13 wants to do a sneak attack? We'll do a sneak attack. We'll do a sneak attack. That sounds like a bunch of 11-year-old boys doing a prank on their older sister's slumber party or something.
Starting point is 00:30:22 We're going to do a sneak attack. Yeah, you use phrases like that when you haven't learned about what actual sneak attacks are called. Right, right. Or like clandestine operations.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Right. You know what I mean? Like, oh no, sneak attacks. And babysitters use sneak attacks. But again, this is his same, I guess it really is like sort of his Jean-Claude Van Damme sort of idea of how everything works.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Like you were saying last week, he likes to fast forward to the fight scenes. Yeah. Of like a lot of sport and shit. So for him, like he's just getting off on like his ideas of what people do in movies it's like no it's a sneak attack right i never see it coming and then all the soldiers will be asleep and shit yeah we're playing cards i forget which movie this is from but right you know what i mean like that's how it works and that that's not me making up a hypothetical scenario that he likes to fast forward that's how he watches john Jean-Claude Van Damme movies. His son was like, yeah, and then we fast forward to the fight scenes.
Starting point is 00:31:07 That's just how he goes through his day. Is it unhealthy for us? Sorry to interrupt. Is it unhealthy for us to treat everything he says and does as like, we should treat it on face value and have the, quote unquote, appropriate response to it? Because I'm way beyond the point of like, I feel it's probably self-care trying to deal with him as my president. Yeah, I mean, I think Jack and I are in the unfortunate position of talking about him every day.
Starting point is 00:31:29 No, I get it. And it's important. It needs to be. No, no, and I know. And I think I totally get what you're saying because, I mean, we can either bang our heads against the wall every time. It's like, but he said he was against telling people. But he's also the president. Yeah, but now.
Starting point is 00:31:40 And you have to treat it at face value. Yeah, now I just laugh. For me, it's just funny because that's just part of my existential dread coming out. Yeah, right. I just laugh about it. Totally. I get it. For sure, Miles.
Starting point is 00:31:51 I get it. But, you know, at this point, nothing really is surprising. Right. So I think it's just good to at least – I mean, if the other option is to be like, yeah, whatever. No, we can't do that. Then we're dead inside. You can't do that. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:03 So I'll feign – Agreed. I'll pretend there's a little bit of life, a little bit of soul in me still. Yep. we can't do that. We're dead inside. You can't do that. Right. Agreed. I'll pretend there's a little bit of life, a little bit of soul in me still. Yep. I can relate. It's like the opposite of self-care because I didn't pay attention
Starting point is 00:32:10 when we had a good president in office. Oh yeah. I like didn't know what he was doing on a day-to-day basis. I was like, he's got it. He's, I'm not too worried about that.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Right. But now I'm like following this dude's every step and just, you know, losing weeks off of my life. Right. Every day. But that's not even because of stress.
Starting point is 00:32:26 We are all you, Jack. That's because of the impending nuclear apocalypse. Yeah, that's true. That's also true. So we don't want to skip over what was presumably discussed at that Dershowitz meeting because it seems pretty clear that he's just getting ready to, or at least about to try, to fire the entire Department of justice i mean he's ready
Starting point is 00:32:47 like yeah he's gonna you're fired the whole entire the whole fucking thing i mean yes clearly the michael cohen raid did a lot to him because a lot of people forget that they were basically talking to each other every day for like 10 years right and they are like i don't know if they're codependent but they need each other in a very like significant way. And a lot, and you know, I think also too, because he's now wrapped up in this investigation from the Southern District of New York's US Attorney's Office,
Starting point is 00:33:14 I don't think Michael Cohen can actually represent Donald Trump anymore. Not that he would, but like, that's another thing now. Like he doesn't have these comforts that he used to. Like Rob Hicks is gone, Rob Porter's gone. A lot of these people who are his like sort of social security blankets and at this point probably mental security blankets are gone yeah and he's stripped down to fucking nothing yeah i mean he's not unique in that way like when people get divorces they say for the first like year and a half it's
Starting point is 00:33:39 like suffering a form of brain trauma because you've just totally relied on people to do a portion of your mental work. And because he's just so chaotic and can't keep a person employed next to him, like he just is constantly suffering brain trauma. Right. And I think, yeah, because of this, so now he's fully off his rocker. And now, I mean, from obviously he's been taking shots at sessions forever because he was like, he shouldn't have recused himself. It was a terrible decision. And then it could be Rod Rosenstein because, you know, he's in charge of the Mueller investigation. I think actually signed the order for that search warrant.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Yeah. For the raid. Yeah, for the raid on Michael Cohen's office. So clearly he's got a target on his back. The break-in, as he called it. Oh, the break-in. Yeah. They broke into my friend's office.
Starting point is 00:34:20 From what I understand, they're enforcing something called the law. I don't like it. It sounds like Allah and we should get rid of it. But I think with, yeah, and now Mueller, because he's Mueller, that everyone is probably not nervous because who knows? I mean, Mueller did a good thing in referring this to an out like to the DOJ. And an independent judge said, yeah, this is valid. You should do that.
Starting point is 00:34:43 May I ask? So to me, like a semi-informed American, I know that if Mueller gets fired or whatever, that that's like a very bad thing because he feels like our lifeline right now. In the event that he does get fired, hypothetically, what exactly happens? Because I've heard Republican senators say that it's suicide for the GOP. And I've heard, you know, I'm just curious, like what actually, does the investigation stop? Does someone step in and continue it? In its current form, it would stop for the time being because I don't think there's anybody
Starting point is 00:35:15 who's in a position of power in either of the branches of government that would be able to do it. That would sign off on doing it. That would sign off on starting it again. I think the Congress could, though, put together like their own another one yeah but if like a plurality of congress agreed one that gavin nunez is not involved with oh devin yeah yeah i call him gavin i like i think you matched up
Starting point is 00:35:36 gavin newsom and devin nunez that would be like the weirdest person is such a strange combination another thing uh the new republic is writing about uh what they're calling robert moeller's nuclear option today uh basically that if trump fires him he could still reveal everything he's discovered in the russian investigation just be like fuck you man my job is not like what you think it is my job is to tell the american people what happened right like that's all i'm. And then Congress would have to decide then, be like, ooh, do we do something? Because that's the other concerning thing is that we don't have, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:11 none of the GOP senators or congressmen have actually began to be like, I mean, there is a bipartisan bill starting to float around to protect Mueller, but there hasn't been anything yet. And who knows, I guess maybe they were waiting to see if Trump actually was dumb enough to fucking do this. Right. You know, I think maybe it was Lindsey Graham or the other
Starting point is 00:36:28 few people, even on the Republican side, have been like that would functionally end his presidency. But what would happen exactly? Like, I don't understand. Like, would he of course, it looks bad, but what would like like actually happen to him? Would that just make the GOP look terrible? It makes the GOP look terrible. And that's when I think American citizens will have to basically begin to demonstrate because that's also just a full frontal attack on the rule of law in this country, that he can just be as self-serving as he wants to be. And then we are basically, we're living in a strong man. We'd fully recognize that now.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Right. It would be completely transparent. Well, it's transparent now, but I think that's where I think the demonstrations are necessary to put pressure on Congress to fucking put this guy in check. Got it. And I think our only real recourse really to think about it is take back the House and Senate and we can use these other branches of government to probably serve as a check, because right now you just have a bunch of people sitting on their hands. Copy. At the same time, it could make Trump so politically unpopular that it would be like when Nixon had the Saturday Night Massacre where, you know, both parties basically were like, all right, you're toxic now.
Starting point is 00:37:32 And so we're going to impeach you. Yeah, we're going to start a, you know, a committee to start looking at whether you should be impeached. Got it. And yet, while all of this is going on, it's worth just keeping in mind that his approval rating, President Trump's approval rating, stays at a robust for him 40.6%. It has gone as low as 40.2% in the past couple weeks. But yeah, I think it's, you know, like we talk about the polarization, It's just the more he is attacked, the stronger his base gets behind him. But I mean, think about this, right? In 2010, when the Democrats lost the House, I think they lost like 63 seats or something like that.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Obama's approval rating was 44 percent. Right. And that was 60 fucking seats the Democrats lost. And so the Democrats only need 23 seats to take the House. So even though that all exists i mean most midterms i think like you know it's saved for like two like right after 9-11 bush midterms and clinton when the like economy was flying those are the only times that like the the party that was in the white house actually didn't lose a like a bunch of uh seats in the in the midterms
Starting point is 00:38:43 so right yeah i mean sure we can always look at that. But again, and fucking polling. I mean, I don't even care about numbers anymore, data. At this point, nothing matters. This is according to 538, which kind of does a blend of all of the polls and grades them. So the fact that Rasmussen is like, everybody loves Trump doesn't matter as much because they get a C minus. Yeah. But then you look at shit like the Pennsylvania special election and Trump won that thing by like 19, 20 points.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Right. And a Democrat won. That's fucking scurry. I would be shooketh if I were in the GOP. Right. There is a blind item going around right now that a Republican congressman, an unnamed Republican congressman, was walking the aisles of Safeway just shouting, he's evil, really fucking stupid, Forrest Gump level stupid, and we might as well impeach the motherfucker if he's going to make us lose. And they're not saying who it was. Exactly. This is a media story.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Exactly. gonna make us lose and they're not saying who it was exactly exactly but uh that he's like somebody who regularly goes on fox news to defend president trump and this is being reported like on drudge and in right-wing media so it's not like just a blind item coming from the left being like right the republicans are getting mad it's i i do think the republicans are kind of getting fed up with this shit well right i mean because like the two sort of versions are these guys are actually sitting like they're deeply uncomfortable by trump because he's destroying their party or they're the kinds of people who are not saying shit because they're like damn i like his style and i'm gonna just let him do his thing because it's unfashionable for me to be yeah this kind of this toxic and racist
Starting point is 00:40:19 or whatever but i'm gonna just let him do his thing i have a feeling i'd hope that there are still sort of principled conservatives who are like this is a fucking disaster and someone's gonna have to put their neck out on the line not because they're on the way out the door due to retirement and actually stand up and really stick their chest out to the president because i think really what's funny is what if like the only strategy for the republicans to keep the house and the senate are for them to stand up to Trump right now. And then maybe people start going, oh shit, well maybe you guys, you're not completely tied to Trump.
Starting point is 00:40:51 That might be the only way they can actually shore up any kind of support at this point, which is kind of crazy to think about. And I'm sure when research shows that that is the next smart play, they'll do it immediately. Whereas research up to this point has shown that that is the opposite of the smart play. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Like all Republican Congress people are terrified of their base because the base fucking loves Trump. So they're terrified of Trump. That's why Corker and Flake had to just be like, we're going to leave now. Yeah. They talked a little big game. They had those Twitter fingers a little bit. And then when it was time to pull up and their supporters are like, you better support the president. They definitely.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Yeah. No, of course we'll support him. What'd you say? What'd you say? Speaking of Flake and Corker, we have another one. We have another Republican on his way out who we're not totally sure, but Paul Ryan has decided to resign. I think he is addressing Congress right now or addressing the media.
Starting point is 00:41:47 But we do know now, it had been rumored for a while, but we do know now for sure that he is going to announce that he's retiring. He won't run for reelection. And we don't know necessarily why that is, but it's presumably has something to do with how difficult Trump has made his life and job, right? Yeah. I mean, I think as speaker, he may have had an idea of what the other kinds of things he was going to have to push through Congress and maybe wasn't on board with it. It could be the fact that being a Republican right now is a nearly untenable situation. I just think he's a fucking fuck bag who loves to fuck over poor people and gets off on it because of his Koch brothers induced boner that he gets every night. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I'm glad this dude is fucking leaving all this shit that people are trying to be like, well, you know, he's he wants to be there with his family. I'm sure he does. But it seemed to not matter in the beginning when he was fucking over generations of children. generations of children anyway. If you have such a negative kind of just like reputation, or at least I should say in some circles to put out, I'm going to spend time with my family is like a foolproof approach where it's like, well,
Starting point is 00:42:51 we can't attack that. You know what I mean? So like, that's like, it's like, it's not bullet coverage where you're putting something in front of you to protect yourself, but it is like media bullet coverage where it's like,
Starting point is 00:43:01 you can't attack my reason. Now, you know what? I'm going to say it. His family is boring as fuck. He should not. If he if he made them i mean if he made that family i i would not hang out with them and neither would uh no eddie monster looking ass uh more power to him but he is ideally less power to him if i could be right yes no power at all yeah yeah removal to hang out with his family right less power to him in the general sense. But some people are
Starting point is 00:43:26 speculating that it's just like his whole thing, and he has said this from day one, his whole thing was to reduce entitlements. And they just passed this huge bill, huge tax cut that the government is going to spend the next generation having to pay for. And, you know, so maybe he feels like, ah, my job's done here. Like, I can just kick back and watch them take away people's entitlements. Yeah, and also, dude, remember when the shoe was on the other foot and Obama was in office, he was like, oh, my God, the deficit. I'm so concerned about these deficits. Meanwhile, motherfucker has the gavel and gives us a trillion dollar
Starting point is 00:44:06 deficit. I mean, he's spineless. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like he's spineless. It's just like, okay, what are we doing now? Okay. I'll do that. And I'll do it loud and I'll be handsome. Right. And then he's just like, no, I'm out. Yeah. I passed that. There's a trillion dollar deficit. Good luck with that. It's too much to ask your like senators and like politicians to have integrity. I understand that, But I do feel like there has to be a baseline level of, it can't just be for business. Integrity is asking a lot, but if it's just bottom line- Integrity is asking a lot. Isn't that so sad? Yeah, it is. And it feels super true. But it feels like this has just become big business.
Starting point is 00:44:41 The whole- Well, yeah. And that's, again, the problem with the way our system is set up and that big business can be your benefactor and you are beholden to them while you're representing people quote unquote right and that's the whole fucking rub of it so you know i mean until we do some real shit about campaign finance reform and stuff like that like we're always going to have this fucking problem spinning in circles yeah that's what i'm like just like whatever fucking go agreed and just get replaced by the the Nazi who is like the front runner for the conservatives. Well, but just a fine media campaign right before the election. It's like.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the one sort of defining feature of him besides his complete lack of lips is his not having really a backbone or, you know, kind of being a coward in this in the past couple of years during the rise of Trump. And the GOP is facing down, you know, what people think might be a leftward wave slash tsunami that is going to really slam the Republican Party. And, you know, the brave thing to do would be to, you know, batten down the hatches and stand by his team. They need his leadership.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Apparently, he just had a rally with Republicans all about fundraising and what their approach was going to be. Everybody was psyched. They were like, Ryan's got our back. He's our leader. And then he announces that he's- He delivered the tax cuts. So when he fundraisers, they're going to be like, oh, yeah, this guy's a winner. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:04 You know what I mean? And now you don't have that anymore. Yeah. So it's just more bad news for Republicans heading into the next election, which I mean. Less power to them. Right. Less power to you, man. Hey, don't don't wish you any harm, but less power.
Starting point is 00:46:18 But even though you wish harm on generations of people, whatever, fuck it. I mean, I guess the other thing, too, is to think about that the front runner in the gop primary now in paul ryan's district is an actual white nationalist but let's just call him a nazi let's not fucking fuck around with these dis rebrand yeah i mean like when you are actually like making a list of your critics and then you're like most of these guys are jewish i'm sorry bro like he said that that's what this fucking guy paul nealon he is like this is the guy who's basically the front runner i mean he's unelectable so clearly someone else will probably come in because they still have until june 1st to get another uh unelectable but who's the dude in louisiana
Starting point is 00:46:53 yeah who came in on the horse roy moore yeah it's like alabama alabama that feels pretty uh unelectable right and who's the he came damn close and who's the guy in uh the white house it seems pretty unelectable yeah yeah yeah, again, it's just crazy. I mean, this dude's just a fucking troll. And I mean, fuck it. I hope. But he's a straight up actual avowed white nationalist. Yeah, he's a white nationalist.
Starting point is 00:47:14 That's what he'll tell you. And he's pro-white or shit like that. I mean, there's a genocide against white people, you guys. Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because that's actually why I'm on the show. So talk about your nonprofit. It's called Off-White Eggshell and this is not the only
Starting point is 00:47:32 Nazi that is running as a Republican there's one in Illinois I think or I don't know he might have been blown out already but yeah it's clearly you know we're in an age too where Nazis are being like hey I guess this is a safe space now for me to come out. Well, yeah. I mean, the feature of American politics is that it's becoming more and more and more polarized.
Starting point is 00:47:51 So, you know, as the country becomes more and more polarized, you're going to see more socialist leanings in the Democratic Party. For sure. And you're going to see literal fucking Nazis in the Republican Party. And I'd rather be on one side than the other. You can say it. It's the Nazis. It's okay. I think they're winners. They've got a plan. They've finished. Yeah, the 2024
Starting point is 00:48:13 presidential election will be Leon Trotsky versus David Koresh. Right, exactly. You know that David Koresh isn't dead, right? Trotsky's alive for sure. For sure. Trotsky fuck alive, for sure. For sure. Trotsky fucks. But I'm saying that's how crazy it is.
Starting point is 00:48:29 It's the name of my novel. Trotsky fucks. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhearts the
Starting point is 00:48:59 plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. you get your podcasts. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking
Starting point is 00:49:43 about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:49:51 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:50:07 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hey, I'm Bruce Bozzi. On my podcast, Table for Two, we have unforgettable lunch after unforgettable lunch with the best guest you could possibly ask for. People like Matt Bomer. Thank you for that introduction. I'm going to slip you a couple 20s under the table for that.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Emma Roberts. When it came into my email inbox, I was like, okay, I know I'm going to love this so much that I don't even want to read it. Because if I can't be in it, I'm going to be bummed. And Colin Jost. You know, your wife was the first guest on Table for Two. It's come full circle. As long as I do better than her, I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Table for Two is a bit different from other interview shows. We sit down at a great restaurant for a meal, maybe a glass of rosé, and the stories start flowing. Our second season is airing right now, so you can catch up on our conversations that are intimate, surprising, and often hilarious. Listen to Table for Two with Bruce Bozzi on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:51:28 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds, Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. I mean, my reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing.
Starting point is 00:51:57 It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back.
Starting point is 00:52:34 And the hot take machine that is Margaret Atwood is at it again, you guys. I don't know. I read Margaret Atwood's piece when she wrote a thing and people felt like she was coming out against Me Too. When she wrote a thing and people felt like she was coming out against Me Too, I read it. I didn't think it was necessarily as strongly worded as it was portrayed in the media. But she has continued to come out with some pretty interesting takes on just the world at large. The best one. I mean, look. So Margaret Atwood, do people know who Margaret Atwood is? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:03 She's the author of The Handmaid's Tale. Right. Just a legendary. She's booming right now. Everybody's loving Margaret Atwood, do people know who Margaret Atwood is? She's the author of the Handmaid's Tale. Right. So she's, she's booming right now. Everybody's loving Margaret Atwood. She's a great writer. Like the Handmaid's Tale. Yeah. I have not read it recently, but I have read about it recently.
Starting point is 00:53:15 And the fact she like did all this research on historic regimes and she said like all the details from that or it's just a sort of a blend of all these different uh historic sort of uh governments and how they uh you know held women down right and you know she's a really interesting great writer uh and yeah that that one thing the piece i think was called am i a bad feminist or whatever that got her a lot of heat just because i think she was merely describing how some movements evolve but I think because she was also relating it to like a colleague of hers that was, you know, accused of something that they were being like, you do not believe the accusers and blah, blah, blah. Anyway, so that got her in the news recently. And then we find out that she is now blaming 9-11 on Star Wars. Oh. So the way this works is, I guess in 2000 there was a Danish version of The Handmaid's
Starting point is 00:54:08 Tale that was played out on the stage in the theater. Yeah, that's the one I'm familiar with. What do you watch? The fucking Hulu show. Never heard of it. But if you are in the Netherlands, you have to see the show. So this was in 2000, so it was just before 9-11, and in the opening
Starting point is 00:54:24 there was footage of all kinds of buildings blowing up. And one of them was the World Trade Center. Then 9-11 happened to like, yo, yo, get that out, get that out. That was our pretend future scenario. And now that the future had become present, they had to edit that out. And she did an interview about it or like someone asked her about this. Someone brings that up, right? They bring up the fact that uh her opera predicted 9-11 sort of and she says oh they didn't get that idea from my opera don't worry they got that idea from star wars they being the terrorists yeah yeah uh as you know muhammad atta had a rebel alliance tattoo on his right and so the interviewer is like, wait, do you really believe that?
Starting point is 00:55:08 And she goes, remember the first one? Two guys fly a plane in the middle of something and blow that up? The only difference is in Star Wars, they get away. Right after 9-11, they hired a bunch of Hollywood screenwriters to tell them how the story might go next. Sci-fi writers are very good at this stuff anticipating future events they don't all come true but they're interesting what-if scenarios uh which i am on board for all of that except for except for everything the lazy connection between 9-11 star wars that is i subscribe to like science science future can be like futurists it's not that far
Starting point is 00:55:41 off from like futurists but it's like the only isolated like never seen did you imagine 9-11 after seeing Star Wars like did you consider flying planes Margaret I would because and also that's your idea my man hit it with the proton missile or proton torpedo right and then blew up the Death Star and was out of there right I don't know how someone goes aha in this version of the reality I live in the Twin Towers are the Death Star and my proton torpedo is just flying a fucking jet plane into it I don't know it's apparently this is not the first time the two have been compared though uh because somebody created a uh fake documentary like spoofing loose change called Luke's change yeah inside job okay uh where it's basically saying that it has to have been an inside job.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Think about it. Darth Vader's two kids carried out the attack on the Death Star. His daughter had the plans the whole time? She had the plans for the Death Star? I wonder who gave those to her, which is actually a fan theory that I have, that he was trying to protect them the whole time. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:56:42 That Darth Vader, from the start, was actually trying to protect his kids from the Emperor. Okay. Just think about it. Watch it again with that in mind. I will be really high and think about that. Explain to me why that's wrong.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Because I haven't watched it with it in mind. It's just a thing I live in. So please fill in my thoughts. Fill in my thoughts. As I entered fatherhood, I thought of other examples and how that played out, film and TV. So what else is going on in oh the news okay let me tell you something fun bullshit because the world is
Starting point is 00:57:10 fucking upside down uh robert craft the owner of the patriots uh and literal best friend of donald trump like when he like he actually called donald trump like thank you so much for the tax cuts right um he visited all around sleazy dude like always wearing a blue blazer, has like a 22 year old girlfriend or wife. Right. And like nine giant rings on his fingers. Although Putin did just jacket rings. Which is the best. I've never rooted for Putin, but when I heard that, I was like, when evil goes against evil,
Starting point is 00:57:36 it's like, it's just fun to see how it plays out. Which I don't, I don't, we may have talked about it, but if you don't remember, there was a time I think Robert Kraft met Putin, right? And he was like, let me see the ring. So full stop there. Robert Kraft met Putin, right? And he was like, let me see the ring. So full stop there. Robert Kraft met Putin. Okay. Nothing fishy there.
Starting point is 00:57:48 And he took it off. And then Putin just took it and walked away. My ring now. And then, yeah, he's like, this is mine. And then when he tried to get it, like his security was like, bro, don't even get near him. His ring. That's his fucking ring. And then like when he like called like through the government officials be like, you didn't get my ring back.
Starting point is 00:58:02 They're like, it's better that you just gift it to him. We'll get you another ring, Robbie. We'll get you one. We'll get you a ring, Robbie. Just deflate some more balls. You get another one. So he visited, yeah, okay,
Starting point is 00:58:11 well, Patriots, Jack Patriot in the building. So he visited Meek Mill, the rapper, who is in jail. Yes, he visited Meek Mill. Robert Kraft? Yes, the man who has
Starting point is 00:58:21 had to be deposed in the Colin Kaepernick NFL colluding against him trial. Robert Kraft is a huge fan of the Philly rap scene yeah just like let me fill that in exactly he loves brapping on dirt bikes like everybody grew up on the roots you know exactly you know what I mean he used to go to the same uh piano teacher as Scott Storch little known fact uh that's a deep roots cut anyway so uh he visited Meek Mill in jail and he comes out of this meeting with him saying some crazy
Starting point is 00:58:45 shit like, it makes it clear to me we have to do something with criminal justice reform. What? Yeah. That's what it took for Meek Mill. And then he goes on, he's like, I know some of our players in the NFL have talked about this. I see it firsthand. It's just wrong.
Starting point is 00:58:59 We have to find a way to correct it and also help the community help themselves. It's just sad. This guy is a great guy. Shouldn't be here. And then think of all the taxpayers here paying for people like this to be in jail and not out being productive whoa okay robert woke craft like what the fuck all right let's see if he says it again right you know what i mean like that's a convenient photo op it's all cool and that'll that'll play well with his players you donate a bunch of money to to like a progressive district attorney
Starting point is 00:59:25 who's going to actually tackle that. Yeah, right. This is like Trump coming out and being like, yeah, the NRA owns everything. Fuck the NRA. Exactly. Talk is so cheap. But then he has a three-hour meeting with the NRA
Starting point is 00:59:34 and he's like, the NRA is actually really good. Exactly. They're patriots. They're patriots like Robert Kraft. Let's see after Kraft goes back to the fucking clubhouse with his homies and they're all like, wait, you know, we all make so much money off of the prison industrial complex.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Right. And then he's like, Meek Mill needs eight more years. Right. Yeah. Like we, he's a danger to society. It's,
Starting point is 00:59:53 and again, you know, we were talking about this thing last week about the district attorney in Philly, who's actually doing a lot of things to actually reform criminal justice system there. And like taking very drastic steps, like trying to reform this like system of probation they have that it's like active in many places that you
Starting point is 01:00:09 can just get an endless loop of probation like meek mill who had like a charge in 2008 and then he fucks up doing a wheelie on a dirt bike and they're like okay you got two to four years in prison that was literally what happened yeah yeah he did a wheelie and then also video shoot right and then also like i think had a gun at one point or something. That's how he first got on probation. That was in 2008. And then he got in a fight in an airport where there were no charges brought or anything. And then this wheelie.
Starting point is 01:00:33 And that's when the crazy judge was like, you're going to prison for two to four years. Also, do you want to sign with my friend's management company? Yes, that happened. Yeah. The judge that sent him back to jail has been stalking him for years trying to get him to sign with her friend's management company he should sign it sounds like a great opportunity i'm like yeah like those don't come around all the time like yeah how's maybach music bro you're still in jail right exactly uh get with judge whatever her name is cersei lannister whatever
Starting point is 01:01:00 the fuck wasn't meek mills like i don't remember what song it was but wasn't it the anthem in the eagles clubhouse like when they won the super bowl i think they were pumping a meek mill song oh yeah so it's like are you a patriots fan did i am a patriot got it so i won't go too deep into it but there is a bit of irony we've won to robert craft yeah that's true uh robert craft going to visit the guy who was creating the fight song for the team that just oh right right right i wonder if it was one one of those rich guy bets where they're like, okay, if you win, I will visit
Starting point is 01:01:30 the big mill, and if I win, I get your wife. Yeah. I will visit a gross guy in jail. Yep. What else happened in sports?
Starting point is 01:01:44 All sorts of spicy stuff happened. How messy do we want to get? With the Cleveland Cavaliers. Ah, yes. So Tristan Thompson is married or engaged or at least with Khloe Kardashian. She is pregnant with her first child. It is his. This is very good news for her.
Starting point is 01:02:06 She's been wanting to have a family for a long time. Then a video came out yesterday of him at some sort of club hooking up with a couple women, right? I didn't actually watch it, but you said it looked like she was trying to start him. I don't know. Did the video come out yesterday or did it happen yesterday? I think it came out yesterday.
Starting point is 01:02:28 I think I first saw it yesterday. I don't even know the timing of it. But he's clearly, this is like during the time that they've been together. She was pregnant. And it's like night vision. That's what's weird. Calculated. And she's looking over at the camera.
Starting point is 01:02:40 I don't know if at one point they look up. Someone does catch eyes with the security camera or whatever it is. But either way, it looked like there was some touching and feeling and kissing. And yeah, it's just people also forget that I'm pretty sure Khloe got with Tristan when he was with somebody that was pregnant too. Right. So she stole him from his pregnant girlfriend. Hey, you're going to lose your man the way you get your man. Wow.
Starting point is 01:03:05 You know what I mean? That old adage. That would be something. That would be enough to ruin many a relationship. But then this morning it has come out. Well, didn't another video leak yesterday of him with another woman? There are so many. I'm kidding.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Leaky day for Tristan. Leaky day for Tristan. So many, I'm kidding. Leaky day for Tristan. Leaky day for Tristan. But this morning, it's been a leaky morning because an Instagram model who leaked sex tape with her and Tristan Thompson, allegedly, now says she's pregnant with his baby. And this is where it gets interesting because so today is the last day of the NBA regular season. Correct. So today is the last day of the NBA regular season.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Correct. The Cavs and the 76ers are going for the three seed. If they both win, Sixers get it. If the Cavs win and the Sixers lose, Cavs get it. Big game tonight for both teams. She also says, so pregnant with Tristan Thompson's baby, sleeping with another married Cavs player who people think is the king.
Starting point is 01:04:10 No. Elvis? That's what people are speculating. Not J.R. Smith? Not J.R. Smith. LeBron James. That is the speculation. I mean, it's a headline grab right now. That's a headline. It's been a leaky day for Tristan. Let's just go all in. But you say that's a blind item? That is a blind item. So look, we're not going to wildly speculate, but we will.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Yeah, it's LeBron James. Right. Speculation is a currency. You know, she can just loft that unnamed source out there, just like that Republican unnamed person in the supermarket. And we could just spend all day talking about it. So it's like, that's great for her. And this doesn't need to come to fruition.
Starting point is 01:04:43 You're talking about me right now. Is this part of the 76ers psychological warfare against the Cavs? Yes, exactly. I am releasing this. Hey, everybody, yes. Tell everybody, no, LeBron James, why are you cheating? But you heard those stories about Lawrence Taylor back in the day where in big games he would send prostitutes over to the other team's hotel
Starting point is 01:04:58 to keep them up until 6 a.m. And it's like, there's just psychological athletic warfare out there. I don't put it past them. It's crazy. Again, and it's wild, too, because, you know, you never want to see somebody be pregnant and get cheated on or whatever. No way. No, of course.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Like, God, what the fuck is wrong with you? Like, Tristan Thompson and also Khloe. Who was the best basketball player she was with? James Harden. James Harden. For sure. Yeah, James Harden spent a summer partying with Khloe Kardashian and came back in the worst shape ever.
Starting point is 01:05:26 It was almost comical. He just like – He's like Beard has fallen out. And he wasn't necessarily a fit player to begin with. Right, exactly. He's just like super, super like physically just talented. Slowed, yeah. Like his finesse is just incredible.
Starting point is 01:05:39 But, yeah, he came in terrible shape. Now he is back at peak James Harden and is probably about to win the mvp but yeah man i mean these blind items some would say they're responsible but there's an actual website blind item where you can just like go and see tomorrow's celebrity news today they just don't tell you who the celebrity is but you can kind of put it together oh wow that's interesting yeah so my favorite of all the kardfriends, husbands, whatever, Reggie Bush. Reggie Bush. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Hell yeah. Solid dude. He was the original cautionary tale to other athletes. Right. It seems like he walked out pretty clean though. Maybe it's because we've had so many distractions that have come since. Yeah. But big fan of Reggie Bush.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Wish that worked out. Yeah. Well, you know, he went to SC, so whatever. Got it. Yeah, I mean, look, Lamar was good, but he also had a lot of things he was struggling with. Oh, Lamar. Yeah, that didn't end well.
Starting point is 01:06:33 It's just a pile of bodies they've left behind. As sad as all reality TV is, watching Lamar Odom just be not ready for that family and that spotlight was the saddest thing no doubt just he's like too sensitive a person for that that's real that's real it fucking sucked man and I feel like that's why Rob kind of lost his way too yeah because they looked like Rob and Lamar were like so tight right during that show I was like this is kind of the funniest group of dudes ever because they were both way too sensitive for that show i was like this is kind of the funniest group of dudes
Starting point is 01:07:05 ever because they were both way too sensitive for that world and they were yeah men trying to operate in the crazy empire of the kardashians right chris humphries was like i'm out i'm out he's like i already know i'm a terrible player right so i don't need to exacerbate that although a similar player to tristan uh thompson because like because they're both people who are just like spazzes, but they get a bunch of rebounds. Giants. Right. They fill the lane.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Yeah. Interesting. But my favorite, I think there is a tweet because people were getting messy on Twitter because of, you know, especially because the rumors were, like I said, he cheated on his last pregnant girlfriend with Khloe in the first place. Everybody's like, what did you expect? Blah, blah, blah. And then one person really took a shot at his stats. And this is more of just like a sports D cup. They said
Starting point is 01:07:47 Tristan Thompson out here cheating on his pregnant women like he's not averaging 2.3 rebounds and minus seven points per game. Disgusting. Billy, it's been a pleasure having you, man. Thank you for having me. Where can people find you, follow you, see your stuff? I'm on Twitter at Billy Scafuri. Good luck spelling my last name. If you're interested, you can see a short film I just put out on Vimeo called Triple Kiss. You can Google that. It's really easy to find. And otherwise, Harvard Sailing Team on YouTube
Starting point is 01:08:12 and the No Joke Podcast on Headcum. Sounds good, man. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me. Oh, man. We need to see where y'all can find me right now. Yes, Twitter and Instagram, at Miles of Gray. You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:08:27 You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes! We link off to the sources of the information we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song that we play you out on. Miles, what are we going to write out on today?
Starting point is 01:08:49 Today we're going to do a track by S. Maharba, who's like this beat maker from the UK. And, you know, like this guy's aesthetic, like his beats sound real like lo-fi kind of sample-y stuff. They're sort of want to evoke like black and white photos of Hollywood vixens or something. This is a track called Girls and Pearls. Yeah, it's just like some good sample based beat stuff.
Starting point is 01:09:10 So, you know, take that and enjoy it. And, you know, something later. All right. We're going to ride out on that. And before we let you go, it does look like something is going to pass. A bipartisan bill is moving forward to protect the Mueller probe, which is something that a lot of people have been asking for for a while, but Republicans seemed resistant to.
Starting point is 01:09:33 I think they know that would fuck up everything for them. I think maybe somebody heard, oh, he's really going to do this. Yeah, he's going to fire him. We need to stop that from happening so that we don't have to impeach our president. Yeah. Actually, I don't know. This is a bipartisan. I think it's coming out of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Starting point is 01:09:49 So I think this has got the sponsors, Cory Booker, Tom Tillis, Lindsey Graham, and Chris Coons. Damn. So we shall see. But it apparently says that this bill would basically allow for there to be a judicial review of their firing. So if Mueller's fired, he'd be like, can we get an instant replay on that? Right, right, right. All right.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Well, we will presumably be talking about that on tomorrow's episode. That's going to do it for today. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys then. Bye. so Thank you. We'll be right back. I'm not going to lie. was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearths the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption
Starting point is 01:11:53 that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit,
Starting point is 01:12:22 where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady Rebel. Like, what does that even mean? It's right here in black and white in print. It's bigger than a flag or mascot. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Captain's Log, Stardate 2024. We're floating somewhere in the cosmos, but we've lost our map. Yeah, because you refused to ask for directions. your podcasts. culture, identity, and the human spirit. With a hint of mischief, one episode at a time. Buckle up and listen to In Our Own World on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 01:13:09 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust us, it's out of this world. Do you ever wonder where your favorite foods come from? Like what's the history behind bacon-wrapped hot dogs? Hi, I'm Eva Longoria. Hi, I'm Maite Gomez-Rejon. Our podcast, Hungry for History, is back. And this season, we're taking an even bigger bite out of the most delicious food and its history.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Seeing that the most popular cocktail is the margarita, followed by the mojito from Cuba, and the piña colada from Puerto Rico. Listen to Hungry for History on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.