The Daily Zeitgeist - Can You Cancel The Canceled? Post-COVID Architecture 2.25.21

Episode Date: February 25, 2021

In episode 819, Jack and Miles are joined by super producer Anna Hossnieh to discuss the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, Georgia GOP continuing to try and suppress votes, CPAC coming, mainstream media stories, Biden's border facility, how covid will change our architecture, and more!FOOTNOTES: New analyses show Johnson & Johnson’s one-dose vaccine works well. Georgia GOP Will Ensure Election Integrity By Making Voting As Whites-Only As Possible New Omnibus Georgia Senate Proposal Would Severely Restrict Absentee Voting CPAC: America Uncanceled Will the Manhattan District Attorney Be the New Robert Mueller? No, Biden’s new border move isn’t like Trump’s ‘kids in cages’ Has the Pandemic Transformed the Office Forever? Are More Car-Free Streets in N.Y.C.’s Future? How the Coronavirus Will Reshape Architecture WATCH: DangerDoom - Sofa King (Danger Mouse Remix) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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iHeartRadio app, on Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 173 episode four of your daily zeitgeist production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness uh it's thursday february 25th 2021 my name is jack o'brien aka yama survivor yama i don't have the rest of the words in front of me i didn't he not gonna stop what he go aka harder yamaguchi survivor. He gonna make it. He will survive. Keep on surviving. And that's just, I think, a duo AKA from official dickhead.

Because Chris Yamaguchi, man, we found out has COVID and is resting up now. But, you know, prayers up for you, sir. We hope you are doing well. And everybody, with any family members, sending all the good vibrations to anybody who needs some healing right now. But, yeah, special shout-out to you. And as the official, like, number one AKA writer, I just want to say sorry for butchering your AKA, man.

Well, that was actually from official dickhead. Right, but, like, the one honoring him. Yeah, that's true. I should have tried harder. But like the one honoring him. Yeah. We haven't. But I should have tried harder. Yeah. That's about right. That's about right. What else can you expect?

So that voice you're hearing who chimed in is, of course, the co-host with the Mo host, Mr. Miles Gray. Yes. And I already did the AK, but I did change my display name on Twitter to Hideo Noho. Okay? Because you already know. And it is a special family episode of Daily Zeitgeist because we are joined in our third seat

by the hilarious, the talented, the brilliant, Anna Hosnier! Hey, y'all! Hey, y'all! I push pause like, wait! I push pause like, wait! Remember that song? Ice Cube?

Remember that one? Remember that one? Ever since talking to Garrison yesterday and being like, nah, I never heard of that song. I'm gonna, I think, always gonna be like, you know that song song right right regulators in particular i've been surprised how how few young young people have heard that one um this is it though this is the this is the march towards being decrepit to obsolescence skeletons yeah that's funny i was also born in i was born in 2012 so oh my god i'm young yeah we have nine-year-old impresario you really come a long way baby producer you really come a long way do you

guys remember that was my first character yeah producer how old would baby producer be now probably like this age five or six yeah yeah uh no baby producer be now? Probably this age. Five or six. Yeah. Yeah. No, baby producers and age. Everyone knows that. Oh, OK. That's true. It's like a Simpsons. It's like Maggie. Right.

Always a baby. All right. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. Sorry. Was that not enough? No, I'm just saying like, you know, you're going to know me better. This is my first day on the job uh we being uh me and any the audience anyone who's listening to uh daily zeitgeist for the first time let's say

uh but first a couple of things we're talking about uh we're talking about johnson and johnson coming in with the one hitter quitter possibly uh hopefully uh we'll talk about georgia using racism again again uh we'll talk about uh the the c-pack lineup baby uh we're missing out yeah we really are i mean we're missing out on being having horrible things screamed at us for wanting to for equitable treatment for people next level uh talk about uh the media story that trump is definitely gonna face uh some legal consequences now that he's out of office uh or probably uh and how true that is uh we will talk about uh whether covid's going to change our architecture uh what world are we waking up into yeah uh and we might even talk about uh just a all-around hall of fame dumb bill being proposed by an illinois democrat all of that plenty Plenty more. But first, Anna, you might have heard before,

but we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Yeah. I knew this was coming up. Hold on one second. Hey, how do you find search history? Oh, okay. So I like to get like deep into like the cut and like the new yorker and read really like weird articles so i was reading about this

this youtuber couple the the stofers i don't know maybe they were related to the frozen dinner empire yeah i don't know it's spelled the same yeah but there are these like youtuber parents who are like adopter youtube influence oh those ones who gave their kid back yeah or they just rehoused the child um yeah i was just reading an article in the cut about them which was interesting about how they like you know just the child's needs or not um they just couldn't they didn't have the ability to take care of the child so they or the desire it seemed it's a i don't i honestly don't know what the article like implies like they just really couldn't handle it but the fact that they went they have such a like you know uh they have a youtube channel. They show everyone everything

that it just made them look like assholes more than anything. The fact that they just adopted the child for viewers and then got rid of them when they were done with their storyline. Right, disposable children for CPM increase. It's like the nightmare satire version of being an influencer,

turning your real life into like a social media into content that's too much yeah and then it turns out that like what the people are demanding your social media manager and uh agent are like the people are demanding another kid guys you gotta it's the the engagement is falling off i feel like all family youtube channels end up falling apart epically or just becoming wildly problematic or something just like just that's don't don't like exploit your family and putting the camera on it because i even like the more insidious one was like that though that family that kept pranking their kids and it was just you're like yo that's just emotional abuse y'all and you're

like oh my god the kid thought he got an xbox and then i smashed the box in front of him with a bat because i said he was bad a lol prank yeah yeah i know that was hidden for anna i haven't seen that one i always see the one where like they throw like just the dad's always trying to freak the mom out, so he throws a stuffed animal or whatever, like a human stuffed animal thing. You know, a doll that looks like a human. Pretends that the kid is trying to exploit on her human instincts.

Well, they throw the kid dress or a doll dress in the kid's clothes over the balcony of the house or whatever, over the banister. The mom's like, ah! That is a good one. The dad's like, just kidding. Just kidding. I'm not a homicidal maniac or whatever over the banister. The mom's like, ah! That is a good one. The dad's like, just kidding. Just kidding. I'm not a homicidal maniac or whatever.

Or they'll be like, we're just having fun. Oh, no! Just kidding. I only abuse our son emotionally, not physically. And then the mom's freaking out. And the dad has to be like, babe, I'm joking. It's a doll. But she's like, it's too far gone because you've already experienced the trauma of thinking your child.

That was the other thing that first waved to on YouTube was like couples that prank each other, like with the wild pranks. And that was always the refrain. It would be like, oh, my shorty thinks the apartment is on fire prank. And they come in. It's like, oh, my God, babe. What are you doing? It's like, okay, I'm joking. Babe, babe, joking babe babe babe babe it's a prank it's a prank i didn't babe chill your precious heirlooms that's so terrible it really is not chill yeah every episode is a new relationship because you just get to work it up with right i just can't hold on to a girlfriend because he's

just like i don't know what this is. I thought I shot her. So she left pretty quickly. I was like, chill out, man. Blanks. New gaslighting prank. I'm going to fill the apartment with gas.

And then it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. What is something you think is underrated on? Thank you for asking. I have been watching Bachelor in Paradise Australia. As you guys know, I love to watch every Bachelor on every continent.

Yeah. I'm not doing well. But other than that, like, I, oh, my God. You guys, first of all, how many tattooed, long-haired men can you fit on an island in Fiji? Thousands. Thousands. I can't fiji thousands thousands oh my gosh every part of their body is tattooed except for their beautiful beautiful faces and you know what i love it bachelor in paradise australia is first they film it in fiji so much more beautiful than the i don't know why but like maybe it's because i've seen the bachelor in paradise america one

enough times that like sayulita the resort they go to in Mexico, isn't like that alluring to me anymore. But like the Fiji location. Oh, my God. It's gorgeous. Yeah, the tattoo. I mean, you were sending our group thread your screenshots of the tatted folks, tatted gentlemen of the Australian Bachelor. And it's like everyone has a chest piece. It's like that was the one thing I'm like, OK, so to be in Australia right and it's like everyone has a chest piece. That was the one thing I'm like, okay, so

to be in Australia right now, you got to have the wild chest piece. Australian Zeitgang, let me know. If I had to do what's the Aussie bro starter pack? Because what I'm seeing here is long hair with a dodgy mustache, full chest piece, and maybe even thigh piece

too. All over body. One guy has full body, neck, everything. Except his abs. Is he the one whose abs are a different color? It's all like a frame for his abs. Right, or it's like only the things football shoulder pads would

cover. Yeah. Is what the tattoo is. I was like, what is happening here that guy also showed up naked to the island with just some grapes over his crotch oh that's what that is yeah i thought he had a horrible condition walk into the island where he's like introducing himself to everyone he's like ladies and it's such a cocky photo this dude is tatted head to toe and he's smiling he's like and I'm hiding my penis with grapes. Yeah.

And everyone's like, oh, yeah, mate. That's so him. He's totally like that. That's him, man. That's Kieran. Kieran's like that, mate. He's hilarious. Oh, Kieran, love that name.

And you're like, what the fuck? Also, I think Kieran's technically British, but. Technically. He's a transplant. He's in Australia now. I don't know. So, the show is so fun. There's a girl named Abby who doesn't like when she doesn't get what she wants.

Uh-oh. Oh. She's actually really scary. I couldn't ever imagine being her friend. I saw her in a previous series of The Bachelor Australia, and she got to number two and then got dumped. And she was like, what? What's the vibe of Aussie Bachelor? Because you said NZ, Kiwi, New Zealand Bachelor is wholesome.

Like, it's an open space for sensitive people to be honest and open in a very safe space, constructive way to talk. And I remember all you would text me like, I can't believe how these men are talking to each other and like how open this is and it's so different what's the vibe of aussie bachelor versus you know what i know of the u.s bachelor and what you've described of kiwi bachelor i think it's funny like new zealand bachelorette like how progressive and cool and together it was compared to what New Zealand is like, which is progressive and cool and together. Yeah, shocking. And our shit show of The Bachelor now.

Right. Australia, it's very extreme sports driven. Everyone's like, girl, you gotta jump off a plane if you love me. Metal. Right, right. Everyone's just like, today, and today we're gonna go jump off cliffs.

We don't even know what's on the bottom. Do you love me? It's like that level where you're like, oh no. You don't have to risk your life to prove you love this dude. Speak for yourself. My wife demonstrates her love. She's like, Jack, unless you jump

out of this plane even though you're absolutely terrified of heights and you're passing out that's actually one season of the bachelor australia one of the girls was so scared of heights and they did like a group like all the women and the bachelor which jumped out of the plane she was like that person who's like oh my god oh my god like passing out out of fear coming back like what's going on oh my god oh my god and like passing out again like that and then nothing's a turn off girl girl you got this girl and then one girl's like wow good for her she's freaking out so much she's getting all the bachelor's attention it's like i think she's actually experiencing like real like trauma that might

fuck her up for the rest of her life but yeah no sure i'm sure this is worth it for her to get like two minutes of the bachelor being like don't you love me jump right anyway isn't it like a vasal vagal response yeah yeah i think she was truly not doing well um she went home soon after that i don't know i think she was like almost relieved to go home like she's like right please don't give me a rose as well to hear that on her behalf they're like subjecting her to regular passing out yeah but there are like the one woman abby who does is not used to not getting what she wants her ability to like turn like her her ability to use her sexuality to get what she needs is the most it's truly like we have to study her it's unbelievable what she can do like she'll be like yeah it's like no one wants to give me a rose every guy's like i'll give you my rose

and then she's like all of a sudden has a guy and she's like naked and like i know you want like it's just oh my god who has it like what who are you you know like like Jessica Rabbit, the real human being. Yes. That's a perfect example. Who's led the 40 laws of power. Jessica Rabbit led the 40 laws of power. She's unbelievable. Even I'm like, whoa, she's hot.

Then I'm like, no, she's evil. She's manipulative. What am I doing? Why am I falling for her? There's blood coming out of my tear she really is like unbelievable and her abilities i am like i don't i could never like i truly don't even know like if i like tried to like walk seductively i would like die maybe well we need science to bottle that up yeah sell it to us bottle it up and then resell it to us i don't unbelievable margin for the non uh bachelor bachelorette like connoisseurs no such Yeah, sell it to us. Bottle it up and then resell it to us. Unbelievable margin.

For the non-Bachelor, Bachelorette, like connoisseurs. No such thing. A non-connoisseur? Such as myself. Is there a way to give like a quick update on where we netted out in the American Bachelor this season?

Are we still? Still Chris Harrison. Media res? It's a failure media failure okay we just finished uh hometowns um we got a preview of next week's women tell all uh the bachelor has recently put out a statement um expressing his disdain for everything that's gone on with the girl rachel's like uh racist posts and attending the old south antebellum party and chris harrison's really terrible extra interview where he just basically goes like come on right right oh so slavery is racist now yeah like i said what was it racist in 2018

no come on but again i will say yeah i know that's that's that's actually when we started to learn about racism is when charlottesville? Yeah, I know. That's actually when we started to learn about racism is when Charlottesville happened. I mean, that's what I'm saying. If I'm going to give you the most runway for that kind of response, I'll be like, I would have to hope that Charlottesville

would be the moment, even if you're the most head-in-the-ground person, they'd be like, racism, huh? What happened there? Yeah, so he put out a statement being like fuck this yeah that's i'm sorry i'm really paraphrasing but yes uh it's more go look it up it's on his instagram uh matt james whatever at matt james but he um they they showed a preview for next week which is the women tell all and this

fool shows up with a full-on beard now i don't know about you but when a man shows up with a full-on beard. Now, I don't know about you, but when a man shows up with a full-on beard, that does not say happily engaged to me. Okay? I don't know about... I don't know. But a full beard... Oh, yeah. He's got one of those, like, I've been in the forest for days, years. I don't know.

Yeah. Well, I mean, when Sabrina dumped on him and broke up with him, I was like, yeah, go off, honey. When who broke up with him? Sabrina. Who's Sabrina? The Canadian. Serena Queen. Oh, Serena.

Whatever. Look, I ain't watching that. Anyway, we're getting sidetracked. But nonetheless, a beard is not a good line. No, no. It's never a good look. He looks sad. I don't know.

I feel like a full grown beard is when a guy needs to go and find himself. He's not doing well. That's a single man who's like, I thought I loved her. Turns out I'm black and she's racist. That did not really turn out how I hoped. And I actually was really into her. Is that your suspicion that he ends up going with the racist lady? That's what I'm thinking. Why would Captain Lee? Damn it. Sorry. Too much TV. Chris Harrison. Sorry. racist lady i that's what i'm thinking because like why would captain lee damn it sorry too

much tv i'm so sorry get off the boat i know i'm sorry i'm sorry why would chris harrison come out and defend this contestant so hard unless she won and then they have to protect the brand in any some way right because it doesn't seem necessary to just protect a random contestant if they had all this like weird past but we've seen racists defend racists before so it could just it may have triggered something in him who's like god if they see my 2019 uh old whistling dixie party they're not gonna like the photos from that but we had the same incident where one of the guys who won the bachelor bachelorette season of the bachelor was becca the guys who won the bachelorette season of the bachelorette was becca the guy who won also halfway through the season was revealed that he liked a bunch of like you know really insensitive posts about like you know children you know being in cage like just

like really fucked up shit like things that you're like dude what you have to follow these accounts to like this these sorts of really dark memes. And that came out halfway through the season. And The Bachelorette put out a statement like, guys, you just need to get to know everyone. Don't jump to conclusions. And then he won. And you're like, I wonder why she defended him because she picked him. They recently broke up because he came out as a thin blue line real hard.

Came out? It sounds like he was already pretty open about that no no it turned out he was himself a thin blue line he was a rocking thin blue line but he i mean genuinely like it just like he came out you know he did the whole apology tour of like i'm a changed man right and then you're like no you ain't but um yeah to me, it's like when someone comes out and is like, no, no, no. Just you have to get to know them. I'm like, oh, that's not good. That's a bad sign.

That means that person won. And now you guys have a racist and or prejudiced human being who's ignorant as your brand's winner, which is not a good look. But especially it's the first. Yeah. or brand's winner, which is not a good look. But especially it's the first. Yeah, the first Black Bachelor, which is like we've been demanding you bring like true inclusion to this show and you fucked up your only job. It's almost like a cruel,

like psychological experiment at that point. But The Bachelor as a franchise is like a good analogy for like liberal America. Right. Because it's sort of like, this is not us. Where you're like, no no this is the whole show and has been like you know like we've we've seen it for two decades be sort of uh backwards but it is what it is anna do you have something uh do you think is it overrated okay i got one constantly having a runny nose what the fuck is going on with my body since 94 excuse me i wasn't alive then i was only born three years ago right we know that when i was

born a few years back because i'm only 12 i think yeah i've had actually legitimately i was born in 1990 and my nose has not stopped running since thank you for being honest first of all my nose will not stop running it runs 24 7 it runs when it's cold it runs when it's hot it runs when i eat spicy food it runs when i eat cold food it runs when i like at all times my nose is running do you remember a few years back i sent you that article that was like this girl just thought she had a runny nose turns out it was her brain fluids leaking oh yeah yeah yeah is that my doctor said it's not that okay i did i straight up took that article on my phone like cut it out ripped it out you're like this this look at this doc yeah and he's like no because you haven't experienced an extreme brain trauma and i was

like how do you know at this point you don't know talk to my co-workers because i did actually as a child around two years old i did break my head it's a true story yeah me and my brother were playing roadrunner and coyote and he shut a door on my head and my head hit the metal like class part of the door and i had to get stitches as you can see like that's where i always have this mark on my head that's why i had to have stitches yeah i had to have stitches go all the way up my head so i'm like okay well two years old my doctor literally hates me i'm like at two years old i had this incident right okay i hit my head real hard so would that explain why my nose has been running since he's like no right no and i was like well but this internet article i know

and i was like well i paid about played about five years of rugby, two years in Division One college. Would that explain it? And he's like, I don't know. Do you have any medical tests from that point? I'm like, who knows? I don't know. You have a highlight tape I can check out. I did get a few concussions during that time because I was I was rowdy.

I had a bit of a rowdy reckless era when i was playing rugby because you know when you're like always you've been so like buttoned up because your parents are like aggressive intense like sheltering immigrants and next thing you know you're on a field and you're like that was hot for me yeah so i was like mvp for a little while because i was just going so wild on the computer you know truly yeah it really was like a time where all of a sudden i was like i'm free baby right yeah and i was like tackling like a mad woman and uh dislocated the majority of my fingers during those years but um yeah so like i was like well what about that maybe that's why and he's like i have no like i wasn't your doctor then i can't really like tell you so um i'm i think it's my brain fluids yeah okay yeah

guy sounds like he's not paying enough attention to the links that you send him constantly are you checking your ig dms i'm in requests oh my god doctor please put me in a primary or at least general so you can see what i'm sending you these igtv links are really informative well i'll just tell you now last time i tried to make an appointment during the pandemic he said it's really not necessary for you to come in yeah yeah i mean that is that is across the board why is my nose running right it's like but here's the thing and when you come in you then just show me youtube videos for about 30 minutes and it i right now my attention is really it's precious so i have to be able to give it to people who need medical attention i know i knew what it was a long shot

but i still like don't truly understand why all right fine so much yeah like the editors on my show shout out billy klein this poor guy literally i one time read his instructions for editing that he was handing off the editing to someone else. And it literally says, I just remove all the like sniffles and like clear, like wiping of the nose. And I'm like, right. Don't be telling people. The parts where the nose is audibly dripping into the microphone.

I was like, Oh, that's a problem for my editors at this point. Like that's when, you know, you got a problem with, they're like, yeah,

I actually had to spend about two hours more on each episode removing all her sniffing. So I don't know. It's overrated. I don't care for it. I always have to have tissues on me at all times. Sinuses are a mystery. And it's at extra high stakes now

because a stuffy nose is one of the symptoms of COVID. But it's not stuffy. It because a stuffy nose is like one of the symptoms of COVID. But it's not stuffy. It's never stuffy. It's just always dripping. It's always got a drip. Runny too, apparently. So maybe your nose is just stunting. I think at this point,

that's the diagnosis. That's my doctor's like, honestly, I think we're going to have to diagnose your nose as stunting. As stunting. Alright, I like that doc. And you take that and he's like honestly i think we're gonna have to diagnose your nose as stuntin as all right i like that doc and you take that he's like thank god she left yeah he asked his 13 year old what to diagnose you with to get you to leave him alone probably sound like that shit is stuntin dad all right uh we are gonna take a a quick break and we will be right back. I'm Dr. Laurie Santos, host of the Happiness Lab podcast. As the U.S. elections approach, it can feel like we're angrier and more divided than ever.

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or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and johnson and johnson might have gone and redeemed themselves for all that uh putting that arsenic in our baby powder for decades upon decades totally redeem yourself johnson johnson yeah they have developed a vaccine that isn't like in the 90s in terms of effectiveness uh like some of the other two hitters uh but this one is a one hitter you don't have to set up the follow-up appointment you get it done in one one appointment and the fda apparently the numbers are decent it's a 72 overall efficacy rate in the u.s 64 in south africa um because there's a different like variant over there but um and it's even more effective at preventing like severe versions like hospitalizations so that that efficacy rate is 86 so right meaning like if you did contract

you have a you're you know you're much at much lower risk for hospital being hospitalized which is you know dope now there's potentially three vaccine options uh for americans but there's like still a couple hoops that has to go through on friday the vaccine advisory panel at the fda will make their determination and that means they could get shit cranking by saturday um i'm just hoping you know like we can still as a country collectively keep our shit together because you know there's the news that the rates are going down. There's news that there might be another vaccine. There's, you know, if you're in the UK, June 21st has been a date I've seen blowing up on my like, uh, social media. Cause like,

that's a date that the government is targeting something for reopening the economy. Um, so there's, you know, there's signs out there and it's not like you know it's they're trying to or at least they unveiled a plan mapping how they could get there but you know like we're starting to really see these like things that we can feel a little optimistic about but with that i'm sure is going to come fucking looser behavior right we did uh talk about a study that said that the kind of spikes and rises in the COVID spread were like, could almost directly be related to temperature rise.

So that would also be a reason to look forward to the summer. But at the same time, America managed to fuck up last summer hard enough that there was like a, a spike around July 4th. So, but yeah, I mean, definitely promising. It was like also that time too where it was concentrated in certain parts of the

country, so it wasn't a really realistic thing for others. You know what I mean? It wasn't as urgent or as pressing a matter. It was so, yeah. But we also like have to party. Right. Oh, absolutely. That's our right. Have to party. No matter what. That's our first amendment right

people don't realize the first amendment is you have that right to fucking party doggy yeah yeah signed john alexander one of the johns um let's talk about georgia uh they are using their own

bullshit news story to enact more bullshit voter suppression. It's kind of a perfect little circle they've got there. Yeah. They want to use. Again, we talked about racism to protect racists last time because they wanted to keep uh the fulton county da from impaneling a jury there uh where you know a better chance of black people being on the jury to hear a case about election interference from the trump campaign uh but that didn't end up working out but this goes along with everything we've been talking about since time immemorial republicans

are always going to try and figure out how to absolutely fuck around with the election because they don't have a winning platform they only have racism at this point so the only way that brand because most people on a blind taste test racism tastes like shit so it's not even by most people's standards not that great so they have to resort to all this fucking voter suppression shit. And they are going full clown mode in Georgia. It's not even a fucking game right now. With absentee voting,

they are putting all kinds of restrictions on absentee voting. Again, because that was like the fucking, the drama of the election is like, wait till that absentee vote comes in. And that's when you're going to see that blue shift. And that's when they're like, so we got to knock the blue shift shit off and this is what they're saying under this proposal only voters who are only voters who are required to be absent during in in-person voting periods which

means they work in elections are disabled are required to quote remain on duty at work um or observe a religious holiday that conflicts with the election, or older than 65, would be allowed to vote by mail. Okay, so if you pass those, then you'll get your ballot, you fill it out, you must get it signed by a witness, and include a photocopy of an acceptable form of photo ID. Wow, that's a lot of hoops. Hoops upon hoops. Here's another thing, though, too, right?

There's only two states that require id uh with absentee ballots and i'll let you guess what part of the country they're in they rhyme with clan obama and our clan saw okay uh so there's this is a very very specific targeting of voters who are either voters of color or if you're poor or you live in an urban area or sometimes all three and the house bill or the senate version of the bill is also fucking is just as restrictive specifically they're trying to ban sunday early voting and in a state in the south you cannot be targeting black people more directly when with this ban of sunday early voting that's souls to the polls sunday you know i mean that's when a lot of churches get all their congregants

together and they say we are going to go vote that way we can ensure our community we're on the same page no one isn't voting we can exercise our fucking constitutional right to vote and they want to take that from them so you know they have both uh chambers of the legislature so this you know shit can get moving and don't don't get it fucked up this is happening in many states because this the minority rule this is all they have and this is what they have to do and the explanation their their excuse for this is because there's just been a lot of questions around voter security uh lately and yeah uh voter fraud yeah from them started by them just shouting voter fraud uh and then that that's what they're using to be like hey we're just starting the conversation here and uh

you know we want to help everybody feel safe about the election, which we've been lying about to make them feel not safe. to vote the work of activists in georgia to turn voters out like it you know these are these are the mechanisms that white supremacy has to you know trigger for it to be this system of you know fucking power basically um and it's just it's just really awful to watch it all happen again in real time because you know every like obama won and they're like here we go we gotta fucking do everything we can and slowly they started getting they started winning and winning and now they're doing it again and now we as just general citizens have to be so aware now of how our votes can be fucking just cast aside because we're people of or most i feel the people listening to the show are of good conscience and just want what is best for a plurality of people rather than like regressive anti-progress shit well you got also like when

people are like well fuck the south they've they they voted or they got who they voted for and it's like i think more people have to be like that's not that's not how it works yeah they they're they're only they're being suppressed very hard yeah yeah it's very hard to actually vote for who you want in office and who has your, you know, like, who actually cares about you as a human being or citizen or constituent. Like, that's almost, you know, they're trying to make it as impossible. I mean, I see it on Twitter.

People are constantly fighting. And it's like, instead of just make it clear, you know, like, just be like, these people are being suppressed. You just got to, like just be like these people are being suppressed. You just got to tell everyone like these people are being suppressed because the more we talk about it, the more, you know, commonplace it is that people understand what's going on in the South. The more it's easier to call these people out. We have to make it easier to be like what you're doing is wrong because in the South, they're just getting away with literal murder. Like they're killing people. We saw what's going on in Texas.

They don't care about the human life as long as they're able to push their agenda. So it's like we just have to continuously point it out. Always just point it out. Be like, no, they're being suppressed. Because the more we're able to point it out, the more people are going to talk about it. Or even be like, oh, I didn't know that. I didn't realize. It's the same thing like we were talking about with like q anon or conservatives people on the left have the same sort of thought uh what do they call

thought killing cliches or critically critical thinking cliches that you'll just say that out loud to end the debate even internally to say well it's the south and that's what happens when you get it there rather than saying there are people who live everywhere and everyone deserves the same level of treatment. And the label shit is just gone so far. We're like truly the us versus them thing. It's just like it's at its height right now when most people what's funny, too, because everything I hear from my friends who live in Texas is that people were so humane to each other. People were so good to each other during the storm to try and help each other. But when we enter this sphere of talking politics, the labels come in and out immediately.

It's like, what are we fucking talking about? When we should just be saying people, people, people, people need us. I know. It comes down to mutual aid. It's our voice. It's our organizing that's going to save. Yeah. I mean, that's also the solution now because we can't really count on the state anymore.

I mean, if you need any proof of, you know, what Stacey Abrams was saying after the election, a lot of organizers in Georgia were saying that, like, no, Georgia's been blue. It's just been a suppressed population. Like, this is the proof because they're trying to undo the the progress that that she made and that can be made like that that's almost uh you could take it as if you're going to kind of continue that battle and continue bringing it to the to the uh republicans then like it's almost a hopeful thing that they

uh saw how powerful what she did was but yeah it's not great when they have both legislative bodies obviously nah yeah uh all right real quick uh while we're on the subject of of white supremacist fuckery. CPAC is coming on Friday. Glanchella, baby. Here we go. This thing... This event is really something because now that Trump's not even in office, like, it has a weird feeling

because they're not dunking on anyone anymore. It's like themselves. The theme is literally America uncanceled. Huh? Okay. And let me just go down some of the speaking events that you can partake in when you're there. There's Senator Tom Send in the Army Cotton is speaking in a panel called Keeping America Safe. Okay.

Devin Nunes is doing one on California socialism. america safe okay devin nunes is doing one on california socialism there's another one called the way forward unlocking our churches our voices and our social media accounts i'm not joking these aren't no and i just want to tell you these are not fucking jokes i'm these are not fucking these are all real go to the website you can see them for yourself this one especially this one is called who's the boss where's my applesauce who's really running the biden administration what the fuck i mean i kind of like that one yeah i kind of like that one it's funny who's the boss where's my apples you know they like rhyming um this other one uh wow this piece of transphobic writing is something else my pronouns are first place and winning protecting

women's sports oh shit yes get it what is that even what what is that about it's just so stupid it's so it's such a aggressive violent distillation of whatever they think proper pronoun usage is or whatever gender like it's it's all about because all again these are just for people to go in their most intense echo chamber in the country and just reinforce their state of faux victimhood because the last one this other one i just want to point out is called so you've been deplatformed what now so you've been deplatformed what is like what i do not understand what's interesting too is when you look at what the like sort of the schedule is nothing here is talking about how are we going to get people to believe in the party again like there's nothing there's no nothing about

an evolution as a party or how to move forward it's all about like how can we just go pedal to the metal like with our really toxic platform? And the best thing about all of this is of all the talk of cancellation, they ended up having to cancel a speaker because what they said was warranting of a cancellation. So one of the few black speakers they could find was what they described as philosopher, scholar, musician named Young Pharaoh. And based off his tweets, he sounds like somebody who would have been at the January 6th insurrection. This is one of his tweets that would like got him in trouble. Quote, all the censorship and pedophilia on social media is being done by Israeli Jews. All YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and Instagram are all owned or controlled by them.

My people and patriots have found our true enemy. Hashtag Israel. Wow. Hashtag Israel. P.S. Can't forget hashtag China. Half of those words were hashtags, by the way, which is always the sign of the... Desperate account for attention.

Yeah. And then this man goes, really wanted to catch Ben Shapiro kind of a desperate account for attention. And then this man goes, really wanted to catch Ben Shapiro in these debate streets. He tweeted Ben Shapiro. First of all, he said, I'll give 50,000 to anyone in the Jewish community who can beat me in a debate. Proving Judaism is authentic. Okay.

And then he said, at Ben Shapiro, heard you're a hashtag Jew. You man enough to take this debate and get destroyed? Easy there, Pharaoh. Wait, what? He said Judaism isn't real. He has this whole thing about Judaism is like a construct that isn't real.

Because again, this man is on next level Hotep shit. Again, if you're not familiar with the hotepry there's a kind of afrocentricity that is so toxic it almost seems like a parody of itself and it's so anti-progress and regressive that you have people talking this kind of wild anti-semitic shit and all kinds of any kind of phobia uh will be coming out of these people's mouths so this apparently someone other than cpac actually looked up who the fuck this guy was or what he talks about. He has a YouTube channel where he says a lot of this shit, too. And then they tweeted, quote, we have just learned that someone we invited to CPAC has expressed reprehensible views that have no home with our conference or our organization.

The individual will not be participating at our conference. Huh. What about his First Amendment rights, though? Well, I mean, he had a tweet about that. He this is authoritarianism this that and the other but okay wow it's like it's so weird how the like how the the conservatives have to kind of like self-police in this weird way that's so disingenuous because it's like you let there are other people on this dais who have said the same shit right but it's only because this guy did it in a very aggressive way his anti-semitism was way too out there for your comfort he channeled pen shapir instead of george soros so exactly yeah so i bet if that if his whole thing was islamophobia

no big deal oh no absolutely not because if you look to the c-pack like it has it has there's jewish prayer there's a catholic mass there's like a purim luncheon they're trying to be very they're basically saying there are two religions in this country judaism and christianity and you know we only kind of cool with judaism recently uh because we're trying to just open our you know making this tent as large as possible to fit people in but yeah it's it's just a carnival of brain worms over there yeah and maybe a carnival of literal uh worms or uh viruses i'm sure it's not going to be the most uh oh come on it's in florida population oh yeah

i think probably because that way trump didn't have to go too far because don't forget he's the headliner with kanye and daft punk uh on night two so but yeah trump is there oh yeah and it's caused like problems too because kevin, House Minority Leader, and then Liz Cheney, who's the sort of conference caucus leader of the Republicans, they're both like, they have competing opinions on if Trump should participate. And it's a little, you know, it's like this stupid, cold civil war they're still having. Sounds fascinating. Yeah, truly. But who I hope shows up is Borat. Yay!

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indictment for all his financial crimes. So the podcast on the media was pointing out that this is basically the result of the same thing that led to the Mueller investigation becoming this major news story where it was like a shocking upset that he wasn't like let out of the White House in handcuffs to a lot of the mainstream media. And it's basically what they do to get good soundbites on MSNBC and CNN is they oversample prosecutors. So prosecutors are going to be aggressive. They're going to be like, this is how I do it. This is very aggro, very much focused on how you can build the case against him. And they undersample defense attorneys who could tell you all the ways they would shoot that argument apart to pieces. And basically, this reporter who wrote a thing in the wall street journal

about how it's kind of overstated how how screwed trump is was just saying that like their post-presidency prosecution of trump is like we don't know enough to know if there's a case there and like when in doubt like the odds always favor that there's not going to be an indictment just because it's really hard to build a case that's going to hold up um and we have a lot of history in the last five years that show that yeah yeah exactly um so what are we gonna do i bought all i already look i took a hit on all that muller time gear i brought yeah so yeah all my uh sy vance bobbleheads are uh this really screwed me because uh i thought i was yeah banking on him becoming a big uh celeb that shirt that

you got the liar liar vance on fire where it's like cy vance is tearing up the courtroom with his prosecution and trump's like and i got that muller uh head yeah what is it like the mask yeah the muller mask i was really excited for that the problem was you spent a little too much money on it because it's like nearly photo like lifelike well it's it's custom made yeah i know and i was like honestly you okay whatever if you want to spend 6k on a mask a muller mask that's on you well i needed all the wrinkles it's important that's true and you did and you did kind of trick me on that one zoom call i did think robert muller was on it except i know i was like you all right do my job or what was i doing i don't know robert how'd you get here there's i don't know this kind of ties into just an overall like one of the major failures in the

coronavirus and trump administration crises was the failure of the mass media to communicate basic truths to the masses and like not necessarily through their fault it's just like you know they had a president who was uh telling everybody that the media was constantly lying to them but i also do worry about like you know there are plenty of ways that the mainstream media uh is flawed and full of shit and like sensationalist and it leads them down a path of doing untrustworthy shit that is going to make it hard to kind of come back from that i think because the the relationship that we have to the you know media or journalist i mean really used to be journalism and then it became the media because

journalists i'm thinking of like muckraken reporters and shit who were really out there speaking truth to power like you know especially in the gilded age all that shit there were people out there being like this is what it is this is what we're up against and in that sense you knew these were people who were just trying to report on what was happening to let inform people what's happening objectively then people started going to their corners in these newsrooms and it's now like what version of what's happening can i present to my people that they'll fuck with versus hey this shit might upset them but this is the truth ruth uh and this is what we have to talk about because there's so many moments where we've talked about, why can't the media just say this fucking thing that's

real? And maybe people will begin to be like, oh, now I'm starting to understand because it does feel this thing where you're like, it feels like they're full of shit because you don't know, are you trying to protect somebody with how you're telling me this story? Are you telling me everything? You know what I mean?

No. And that's why i say i only get my news from weekend update on snl i wait till saturday night that's where i get my news i can only ingest news with a setup punch line and uh that's how i learn and that's how i know what's going on in this country and i've never been more informed so yeah especially i remember when the drunk uncle's roommate would come on and he would come back with some really interesting ideas of what was happening in the news. And I was like, I don't know if that's true. And you're like, it's on Weekend Update.

Bobby Moynihan told me. It is the worst. I mean, like I every it's gotten to a point where when I'm reading an article, I'm like. Is this true? And it's like, but I'm reading like Washington Post. I shouldn't have a reaction like that where I'm like i think what it is is that there is there they're withholding that element of analysis that would help connect the dots for a reader that this is all due to either systemic racism or capitalism or some combination of the two to be like and the reason is because

of the culture and like if there was just that added thing of profits make most people so horny in this country they don't care what happens to people right right you know like if that could just be a because that's a truth that's i have i don't see anything counter to that aside from yes there are like a seemingly benevolent business owners who are you know breaking the mold from you know what we think of like a business owner or that class of people but for the most part there's there's this absolute lack of critical analysis of the actual country and culture itself so it's like this like all the punches are being pulled yeah and then and then and then i gotta get all worked up and talk bullshit all day right i feel like i shouldn't read an article and then immediately text it to you guys and go, is this real?

Because I do that all the time. And I think that's the problem. The fact that I can't, from reading an article, trust what I'm reading because I'm like, I don't know. This analysis feels like, you know, a classic. I think all you have to do, well, for the most part part there really is good reporting it's just that it's a matter of like of unfortunately we have to educate ourselves further to be able to actually add the real commentary to understand what's happening rather than like yeah something happened in texas huh yeah wow deregulation i think is what happened but i think that's because of that i've it's it started to make me second guess things in a way that i'm not even comfortable with because i'm

like i know this is real but why am i second guessing it because it's like you've the mainstream media has kind of created this narrative that they're like not really giving you all the information because they have their own agenda and you're like i don't know you know and i'm not look i am not a conspiracy theorist but sometimes i just feel so alone like i don't know what's going on anymore sometimes i feel like 9-11 was an inside job no i just like sometimes i'm like why am i on twitter getting my news like right which is wild too and hearing about like the real situation or just like a real analysis i'm like getting it from some like you know person on twitter who i just find smart and interesting and who's like you

know able to you know create that dialogue versus just like reading and interesting and who's like, you know, able to, you know, create that dialogue versus just like reading an article and being like, oh yes, of course, this is the situation. Because most of it is corporate media, which they're not going to allow someone on their, you know, their precious cable news channel to say those words out loud and begin to rock the boat. So then there's, then you have to go to independent media and like smaller things where people have the freedom to actually have these critical conversations rather than like this thing where you're like just handling our collective reality with kid gloves and not actually telling people what's going on. And because of that vagueness, it allows for all these bullshit, thought killing cliches to come up and people aren't going to think critically because the media isn't showing us any critical thinking either right yeah i do i

find certain keywords and i'll search the keywords on twitter to see what people are saying about it so i can be like okay well that's a conservative take or like oh okay well this is interesting i can follow this thread a little better but then it's like that's what i have to do now like that's where i'm at where i'm like i don't know sure i just don't know so i'm like looking for other people who i trust to tell me more they're like that's why there are and there are great journalists out there and you know and there are people who are committed to that but it's tough when you start getting in orbit of the mainstream platforms because as much good as a lot of the people do like there's still this disconnect.

And to your point, I didn't really get connected with the humanity of what was happening in Texas until you sent me that TikTok supercut. And that's the problem. That happened to me too where I was like, oh. People's roofs are falling in.

People are in tears, in a panic because their houses are imploding and they have sick children and it's a pandemic. But it's sanitized on CNN. Maybe they show you one clip of some like sort of having a sense of humor about their like water coming from their ceiling. Yeah. Rather than really communicating the just how dire it is. And to hear other humans in pain and in need, I think would move people a lot more effectively than just being like,

can you believe they're blaming windmills? It's like, no, also show what their experience is because that's part of your responsibility. And that's the thing. I searched TikTok, Texas. I went on TikTok and searched Texas because I was like, let me see what people are posting. And then I was like, oh my God. It's's like why am i getting my news on tiktok right this is where

i'm out here on tiktok like have you seen this tiktok it's really important right who never who knew i would be talking like that i mean look 20 stranger things have happened and then real quick i did want to talk about uh something we mentioned yesterday, the Biden opening a facility on the border that is like a juvenile facility that we compared to the Trump administration, Cajun kids. And the Washington Post kind of came out with a solid sort of fact check on that. And that piece by us gets three pinocchios but it's actually probably like it's not fair to compare it to what as a one-to-one yeah as a one-to-one because so the the difference uh between trump's policy and the obama policy and the now biden policy is they were separating children from their parents.

And this particular facility is for children coming across as unaccompanied minors to keep them while they're looking for a sponsor or foster family to sign off on them. I think the reason, though, it's so easy to get upset is because his immigration policy is just absolute garbage. Right. So like already, especially like for anyone who cares about immigration, you're just incensed constantly with like how what's happening. So yeah, that is unfair to do a one-to-one comparison.

Yeah. But overall too, like I think the point remains even what, one of the things I was upset about was this whole thing of like being thwarted by one judge. Yeah. And then throwing by one judge. Yeah. And then throwing your hands up. Right. Then what, then why did you campaign on that?

Right. You know what I mean? Because you know, you look, the people who are working in the administration, they, they're smart enough to know where the legal roadblocks are and where something could potentially go wrong to not plan ahead or have contingency plans shows it's just fucking it's like when you you know like you half make a promise to your significant other to go do

something special or something you're like oh yeah we'll go out that day and they're like oh the restaurant's closed it turns out that day and like so we got to cancel the whole plans you didn't look further you didn't check on that you didn't check because i was just saying that shit to get you off my back that we would do some shit and now that it's time yeah you're right i didn't that actually indicates i wasn't my heart wasn't in it and then i think that's what's upsetting too because he really man people of color came through and people who who are have connections to this very issue of immigration and people your own family or whatever getting being able to be with you and people your own family or whatever getting being able to be with you like it's all hinging on these policies but it's just so lax and i get it that's this thing is its own thing but at the

end of the day like where you know where is the real like sweeping immigration reforms that like we're always begging for as americans but every administration can like sort of never really find a way to just yeah um i think i okay so the whole issue uh originally with trump is they didn't keep any files on the kids that they separated from their families right so now we have all these children they were separating them yes yes well that's that is the original issue but right now the problem is we have no way of connecting these kids yeah to their families to get them back after you deported their parents basically and then left the children in a cage um for the money the u.s has i feel like you can find a way to get no so i have a plan because sometimes when i get high is when i really do my thinking and i'm not this is not like a stone thinking but it is because it's like

sometimes when i get i actually have a moment to myself where I'm like, you know, so this is what I'm thinking. You know what? I am getting this Mueller mask. Yes. And the point is, as stupid as it is, that I was able to come up with this entire comprehensive plan while I was stoned sitting on my couch. We need a team that we create just for this. Money has to go into this team. If it needs to be a bill, whatever.

Put this like literally, what is a a team that what is the word for that task force a task force thank you that okay you have to talk to every single child you find out where they're from we need to create reports on where each one of these children are from do you know your mother's name do you know your father's name figure it all out create actual paperwork create the paperwork so we find out where all these kids are from then we need task forces to go into these countries and create literal like if it has billboards yes billboards is your child was you where are you separated from your child contact us you okay what's your child's name bring paperwork to prove that this is your child so we

can release them and we're not just releasing a child to a random family. There is ways to do this. We can get these children back to their families. I mean, there's definitely many groups trying to for sure, but it's just so slow moving. But we need a government program behind it. I know it's impossible, but we need the government because you created this mess. Because guess what? Just because you're a different administration does not mean you're technically a different government. You're still the U.S. government.'t you know like we need people who have power we need someone who is a high up in the whatever biden administration to

be in charge who who it's not like well we have to wait for this person to say yes and then this person's like no you need someone in charge who can get things done like i came up with us in what 20 minutes being like this is all gonna be done like it's not it's hard but if you put the work in we can return these children back to their families like let's just do it because it's imp stop opening more you know facilities so you can help with it's like yes you can open a facility or two because there are so many kids in cages but beyond that that's not the solution the solution is getting these kids back to their mothers and fathers and it's possible we have the manpower we have the organizing abilities let's do it use the military like use people exactly yeah like

that and there's we can do this yo if we could topple your fucking government yes we better be able to get some kids back where they're fucking parents. If we can come in, get a bunch of weapons to give to your gang so they can help take over your government while we're simultaneously helping your government fight these gangs because we're playing all 14 sides at all times.

And then you're giving us cocaine. Yeah, that we are now selling that cocaine to fund getting these children back to their families. Whatever. It's awesome. If Ollie North could figure some shit out you know what i mean like i mean i mean not to be flipping about it but yeah like it's it it you the lack of effort it's just upsetting and i know and i'm and i know there there is a lot of things happening i hope there is based on at least from the non-profit groups that i see who are like you know fully out there with their own like campaigns

to try and do this but but sure if there's no paperwork what's the easiest thing in the world create the paperwork speak to these children don't tell me oh i'm sorry the kids don't speak english yeah no shithole get people who speak the language they speak it's not hard thousands of fucking americans can wait hold on what'd you say get them to talk to people who speak oh hold on let me write this down and then you know what you do what they say you write it down and then all of a sudden guess what paperwork is being created and i know i'm making it sound very flippant but the fact is we have to actually do this because we can't allow these children to just sit there and then move them to a different facility it's like this like this facility is nicer.

Right. I'm sorry. Keyword is you're in a facility and not with your parents. With my family. Yeah. And we can do it. If I can produce a daily podcast and book a different person every single day, except for today,

because something's kind of helping. We can get these children. I do want to say that. Before we start recording, I wanted to say that the fact that this is the first time that a guest has fallen through in, what, 850 episodes of this podcast, a true testament to the GOAT super producer,

Anna Hosny. And I came up with this, again, while I was sitting on my couch after a long day's work, stoned, being like, I could do this. Right. I thought I could do it. Stoned out of my mind being like, oh, we can figure this out. That's good.

Because you got a heart. And you're thinking about it. That's what's sort of disheartening is that there are so many people who want better outcomes that we're even like, is anything happening? Because I'm already trying to figure out how to do this because it's it's so it's just so hard to even think what that experience would be like on either side to be the parent or the child if you're a parent you would know firsthand what this feeling would be like if you don't i can imagine being a child separated from my parents

and being like what the fuck when am i going to be restored to this, like, to my family unit? Yeah. And we have, like Jack was saying, enough people in this military where we can send groups of people to each country that the child, you know, wherever the mass group of children is. After retraining the fuck out of them. Yeah. To every city in that country to talk to the legislators and be like, hi, we are here to try and return these children. Yeah, but I don't think we need to send, let's not send our military. Well, whatever.

Any task force we need to send out. Hey, what's up? We're here to reunite the kids, man. No, no, no. Not like that. Not like that. Biden, Biden. No, no, no, no, no, no. But like groups to every city, literally one by one. If we have to go one by one, it could take years. Just NGOs. The fact is we are doing it we are

getting out there and getting doing our best to get these kids back to their families it doesn't matter how much work it is we just have to do it anyway so now architecture is going to be different politicians love to be like americans can do anything they set their mind to well except keep your lights on or reunite some kids. Right. Or make sure you don't die because of just pure lack. But we can do anything else. Yeah. I mean, the New Deal was a big, you know, redirection of resources from, you know, what people were doing before the Great Depression to what they were doing after.

were doing before the great depression to what they were doing after and like giving them jobs and creating jobs that you know restored pride and you know put money in people's pockets like there's there's plenty of work to be done y'all also i know this will not go over well with our government maybe give those kids some money because you just put them in a cage oh fuck like millions yeah well them and their families can be uh allowed to stay in this country yeah yeah and honestly anything right but if you can find their parents be like let's fly that dad out yeah whatever there you go we're just radical people because we're advocating because we don't like the idea of children being mistreated um which is another thing i want to encourage people to do when people come up to you say oh you're a fucking socialist or whatever say no no no you don't care if people die it's not that i'm a socialist it's

that you don't care about the outcomes for other people that's the difference if you aren't that person tell me something right now about something you would do to help someone that is not someone of your community and you say i would i would help someone that is not someone of your community. And you say, I would I would not like that to happen to them. You know what I mean? We also have to change the way we talk about this shit, too, because the label shit, it just ends right there. And it shouldn't just be this or that. It's I know what I'm not.

I'm not saying I'm I'm radical. What I'm saying is I don't like people fucking most of those kids. They're in facilities in the South, okay? So they voted. Right. Those kids all voted. They voted for Ted Cruz. What?

Yeah. I'm sorry, the kids in the cages voted? Who are you? I would not be surprised if that was a real talking point that they put out there and you're like, wait, what? The things you see on Twitter, I'm sure it's there. Wait, what? The things you see on Twitter, I'm sure it's there. Real quick, there was an article in the New Yorker back in June that points out all the current sort of,

basically our current modernist aesthetic that you see in Kanye's mansion and in a lot of places, like in, what's it called? I don't know, rich people houses? Right, but what's the West End and shit like that? Oh, yeah. It's just that modern minimalism. That modern minimalism.

They're pointing out that that was actually created in the 20th century and partly as a reaction to ongoing tuberculosis outbreaks. How interesting is that? Yeah. Creating places that almost looked like they were hospitals is a big influence on how we live today. And the question they're posing is, what will this pandemic do to the future of architecture and interior design? interior design. I think it's so interesting because now we're basically going to have to move away from that style. Like open offices are going to go away. Like we're going to all have to have our own little pods, literally our offices. And on top of that, I also think it's very interesting how architects are going to start building homes. Like you're going to want the

bedrooms as far apart from each other as possible because people are going to, you know, possibly working from home and you want to help with sound. you're going to want a bathroom as close to the door as possible so people can wash their hands when they come in right and you want you're going to want more balconies because you want people to have more outdoor spaces while not being you know in a public space i just you know i'm very intrigued i i am a i'm an architecture fan so this was real interesting hearing about what le corbusier did mean, in his one villa with that handwashing sink right at the entrance from the 30s. I mean, the forward thinking, the vision of Le Corbusier was really fantastic. But I think even to the tuberculosis thing, like I didn't realize, yeah, like we liked light, airy spaces because light helped with the disinfecting or helped fight the germs of tuberculosis.

because light helped with the disinfecting or helped fight the germs of tuberculosis. And people didn't like the idea of dark, dank corners of a house where things could accumulate or whatever, but it's, but yeah. And they're saying now that because of the lockdown, people just stared at their houses for hours on end. And we're like,

I fucking hate it here. This is definitely more of a New York type thing because a lot of the examples they gave were of people like in New York or Manhattan architects and things like that of what they were hearing people wanting. But which is weird, though, too, because in New York, like the the vibey apartments you see on TV are like super duper open for floor plan. And now many people are like, I want rooms on your walls. I don't want to I don't want to be in my kitchen and see someone on their computer. I need fucking properly demarcated spaces. Yeah.

I kind of like that. I like the coziness, having small cozy spaces that divide off as opposed to wide open spaces where there's nowhere to hide. Right. spaces where uh there's nowhere to hide right and the outdoor space thing too is i think really the most the idea i connected with most because one of the architect firms said they were thinking like 30 outdoor space or a way to interact like 30 of the home as a way to interact with the outdoors was a new thing that they were trying to like fold into their philosophy and yeah like i find myself just wanting to get sun like a fucking lizard yeah you know these days and i think we're lucky enough in california where the weather is somewhat consistent that we can like do those things and there's just

a little more space for us but you know uh yeah i also like the concept of like the movable wall yeah it's kind of interesting it's like you know you have this wall to kind of block out you know the living room from the kitchen but then you can move it out of the way when time or whenever it's necessary like that's also very interesting because it's like we're going to start to progress even further because of our situation and like with dining pods they've said like in certain parts of europe like restaurants have gotten really clever with creating like spaces for individual like like groups of patrons to have a somewhat sequestered environment and how all of this is just going to echo. Like they're even talking about how people are doing like, you know, making their own barriers or out workout classes using scaffolding and things like that. People are now like as they were saying in the article, it's like democratizing this idea of design or how what our relationships are to

space and yeah it's a new a new era i guess but at the end of the day shout out to the sun the thing i'd really love to see is the uh and what like new york city had 40 miles and then 90 miles of new york city streets that have been cut off from traffic so people could just like take it over and restaurants could spread out and then i think there's been a pushback from drivers because they don't want to use public transportation understandably uh with like covid safety um so that's like a big tension point but man it would be great once the pandemic is over if the thing we took away was... That was actually dope when we could just walk around on our streets. It's very European.

And now that we can use public transport. I actually miss public transportation. That would be great to be able to just take my four-year-old on a bus ride or on the train. In a city where NIMBY folks didn't completely skull fuck the ability for LA to have proper transport and the car industry, whatever. I mean, like, you know, it's. I do think like outdoor sitting spaces will also. Oh, yeah.

One hundred percent. Be pretty cool. Like actual like giant areas that are strictly for outdoor sitting. And I also I'm I, you know, now offices are all like re-establishing like i read a bunch of stuff about like how they have like squat like literally the flooring is going to be built to kind of give people a sense of how much six feet is right right like that's surreal like you know your entire office is going to change so you just kind of know now where to stand in order to kind of be in your own safe space like that's why oh gosh oh gosh the

future y'all what's next what's next flying cars sinks at every entrance oh amazing that would actually be great when a more recent one was talking about how the there's going to be a huge push to get do away with office space um but that like that leads to people working at all hours or expecting you to be on at all hours. So you just have to. Yeah, it's weird. Not being in our office, I have weird hours too. Me too.

I start working earlier. Yeah, me too. Just because normally the hours that I would be, my getting ready physically to leave the house. Like I have more time. So then I'm like, oh, well, that has become more efficient. And I'm like, well, I guess I'll start working. I actually have a rule.

I don't know if you guys have noticed this, but I don't now officially start working before 930 in the morning. I don't respond to anything. I don't want to because I'm like, I have to set a boundary where you guys can't connect with me before 930 in the morning. I don't respond to anything. I don't want to because I'm like, I have to set a boundary where you guys can't connect with me before 9.30 in the morning. Because before that, I'm sitting and staring at the wall with a cup of coffee and that's my only peace. Hannah, Hannah, Hannah, Hannah.

I don't respond before 9.30 in the morning to emails or texts or calls. I just don't. Look, I've had jobs where people thought that I had to respond to an email at fucking 11 30 at night yeah you know and you're like that you can't you can't do this and yeah that's but that's like another thing we have just as like this working culture too is like we also have to wrestle with the idea that it's like oh right i have to i have to create a sanctity of my own time too

to not burn myself i also turn my computer off at 10 p.m. Oh, really? So now it's like you can't. I mean, remember you texted me and I was like, my computer's off, honey. Good luck. Because it's off. Oh, right. Yeah, that's right. That means like I will not turn my computer back on until 9.30 tomorrow morning because this is now officially where I get high.

It's Anna's time. It's about saving kids. Yeah. It's Anna's policy hour. So I get a little too high get a little anxious at first and then I start working on saving children then solve a massive world problem

how high how high how high on at the UN I'm just like and so this is what I'm thinking that we can do we gotta get task force this is the human rights council

Set off blunts in the chamber please That's what I'm saying man You know Look, you're right We're gonna have to be blunt about this But we're fucking up Ana, it's been a pleasure having you On the Zeitgeist

No problem, always here Where can people find you and follow you? I'm at Anna Hosnia on Twitter, A-N-N-A-H-O-S-S-N-I-E-H. I have a podcast called Ethnically Ambiguous that I host with Shereen Younes

that's on this network. Check that out. Everywhere you can find podcasts. Also, my podcast Deckheads with Nick Turner has just ended, but don't worry. We're not doing the podcast form anymore, but I've decided to pivot it in a classic below deck spinoff fashion

where I'm doing a Twitch streaming show instead with former Zeitgeist guest, Molly Lambert. We're doing a spinoff called Deckhead's Chief Stews. So it's going to be me and Molly. We're going to be Chief Stews. We're going to stream every Tuesday night talking about Below Deck, the episode that aired on Monday night. So starting

next week, we're going to start talking about Below Deck sailing on Twitch. That's going to be our new show. Guys, it's the future. Podcasts are over. Sorry, guys. Twitch is the future, baby. that's how we're doing it i wish you told us a little sooner uh oh yeah sorry unfortunately i'm not allowed to i'm all in on podcasts that's true last week i did give you a bit of a tip to be like buy in buy in buy in but i forgot to tell you to sell uh oh thanks elon but uh yeah that's um it's it's gonna be fun we're gonna have tablescapes we're gonna have

espresso martinis it's gonna be a real good time and uh sailing looks exciting so uh yeah follow us at deckheads pod to keep up with that information uh because we're just gonna pivot the socials to just let you know when we're streaming and also just you know follow me at anahost because i'll be letting you know. There you go. Tweet I've been enjoying? Yeah, I was just going to ask you. See how I could do this all myself.

Flawless guest appearance. Hey guys, isn't it funny how I just, I am the person who ghost writes everything Jack says. And me too. Miles, I'm out of lines. They don't know i'm an algorithm we found the perfect algorithm it's like it kind of even though when it's ranting it's sometimes it hits we wrote that in man appear human like um okay so at the illustrious ryan conk wrote

are you there god it's a's-a me, Mario. That was great. And then I have this other one that just made me laugh so hard, but it's from Tim Cockbig. I mean, already we've got a winner.

It's funny. He wrote, me, I want to eat your pussy. Her, I'm on my wrote, me, I want to eat your pussy. Her, I'm on my period. Me, I want to eat your pussy. Oh, no. I'm sorry. Tim. I want to eat your pussy.

No. With the vampire emoji. The viper. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey, PlayStation Network, even Miles of Grey.

Hopefully one day Daniel and I might stream some Division 2 when our paths align. And also the other podcast 420 Day Fiance, which you can also catch on Twitch too, because you know, Anne ain't the only one out here twitching on twitch baby uh so yeah check that out tuesdays and fridays normally unless one of us has food poisoning or a family member passes away uh we'll try and keep a consistent schedule and this a tweet that i like a couple first one is from at will purpura it says

i want a small wedding no friends no family just the muppets i love that uh this is another one from yedoye travis our friend of the show at yedoye underscore he said bottom of batman's cape gotta be nasty as fuck that's true that's true like like bootcut jeans. You know, Alfred is like, God damn. I can't clean. I'm going to have to get a new fucking cape. There's literally asshole meat on your cape. I don't even know how you got that on there.

And then finally, this is from Holly Epstein at HEOJ. She tweets, normalize having a nonlinear career path, which is so true. And I can't fucking advocate that for more. The things I thought I would be doing in certain ages,

that shit doesn't matter. In fact, that's limiting. It's like, it's energy, baby. You just got to find where it goes and move with it. Cause as long as you're moving towards your goal,

your mountain, you're good. It doesn't have to mean you're fucking climbing aggressively just take one step every day towards it and you're gonna be i still have a lot of hope for my law career uh well before this i was a ghost hunter so like you really never know where you're gonna exactly wait real quick can i just do one for reductress that truly truly took to another dimension. It's the one that's like Ted Cruz is proof. You can get away with anything if you're ridiculously hot. And then there's just a photo of Ted Cruz. I don't know why,

but like that shit hits so hard. Cause he's hot. Yeah. He's the hottest guy I've ever seen. A tweet I liked at Unreal Shrike tweeted imagine going through a bad breakup in 1823 and then Beethoven drops Moonlight Sonata

Moonlight Sonata that shit does bang you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist we're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram we have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes.

Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song recommendation. Miles, Anna, whose recommendation? Miles, let's say our recommendation at the exact same time. Oh, all right. This one, let's do Danger Doom. I wanted to hear MF Doom.

I wanted to hear him with Danger Mouse. If you're an Aqua Teen Hunger Force fan, you remember that album aligned very well with that IP universe. But this is a remix. It's the Sofa King. This is the Sofa King one, yeah. Exactly. Danger Mouse remix. From Danger King.

I thought you were waiting for me to, I thought you were going to add that one, Anna. Oh, yeah. Danger Mouse remix. Boom. There it is. By Danger Doom. We said it at the same time.

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