The Daily Zeitgeist - Casting Call For The Army, At Home Demon Hole? 06.13.25

Episode Date: June 13, 2025

In episode 1880, Jack and Miles are joined by hosts of Kim & Ket Stay Alive... Maybe, Kim Burns and Ketryn Porter, to discuss… Trump Ft. Bragg - He Gave A Rousing Speech Where EVERYONE? Cheered? DJ Tanner Thinks That Her TV Is a Portal To Hell and more! Bragg Soldiers Who Cheered Trump's Political Attacks While in Uniform Were Checked for Allegiance, Appearance Troops and marines deeply troubled by LA deployment: ‘Morale is not great’ ‘Full House’ Star Candace Cameron Bure: ‘I Don’t Even Want Someone Watching a Scary Movie in Our House’ Because ‘That’s a Portal’ to Something ‘Demonic’ Candace Cameron Bure avoids scary movies at home because they can be 'a portal' to something 'demonic' Movie's Are Hell Portals And Liquid Death Is Cursed Catch Ketryn on Major Slayage - A Buffy Rewatch Podcast! Instagram: @majorslayagepod TikTok: @majorslayagepod LISTEN: leavemealone ft. Baby Keem (Nia Archives Remix) by Fred again...See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What are you, what you said? What you sipping right there? Oh, I'm sipping a little Welsh gin with a soda water and cranberry juice. She's in the UK right now. She's not drinking that at in the morning in Los Angeles. It's LA bro. No judgment. It is 7.30 PM.

Right. Yeah. One time I came on here with some apple cider and to them it appeared to be beer or white wine or something. It did look like a beer. And they were like, I was like, no, they're like, no, we don't care. Get it in. I was like, okay.

Even weirder, he was like, actually your guy's casual attitude about drinking during the day is actually more upsetting to me. No, man, get it in, bro. Get it in, bro. This is all vodka right here. Oh, good. Okay. Cool. I found my people. When it's in a hydroflask, it's water. It's the easy hack. This is an iHeart Podcast. Camp Shane, one of America's longest running weight loss camps for kids, promised extraordinary results. The first one to be tested was a man who was on a diet. He was on a diet.

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And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. So listen to everybody's business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet and welcome to season 392, episode five of Dirty Daily Zide Guys. It's a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into American shared consciousness. And it is Friday, June 13th, 2025, the famous Wolf Howl. Yeah. The company is Friday the 13th.

The famous werewolf of Friday the 13th. Although there was a, I think a full moon fairly recently. A strawberry moon even. Strawberry. Did you know that? They were calling it a strawberry moon because it had like that red tinge to it. No. And all I was thinking of Lord of the Rings, I was like, blood has been spilt this day.

They call those cherry moons because I'm a prince. A prince fella. Oh, okay. Well, allow me to- I'm sure they're different. Allow me to reintroduce this day. It's June 13th, National Golf Cart Day, National Movie Night, National Random Acts of Lights Day. What the fuck is a random act of light, dude?

I don't know. Like, I just tried to think of what it might be and my brain fell asleep Kitchen Clutzes of America Day, National Weed Your Garden Day, Sewing Machine Day Shout out sewing machines, shout out everybody who's fucking with the sewing machine and hey And if this this is the most American shit, National Blame Someone Else Day There we go. Yeah rather than your own failures as leaders or your system of governance blimps, it's scapegoat day y'all. We're doing we're having a big old scapegoat party out here in LA right now.

I wonder if that's that is our yeah national past time. Yeah, scapegoat. I wonder does national movie night. Oh, does it move around? Or is it always a Friday? Like, better be always a Friday. Oh, you know, like Wednesday, No, move my Jack we should talk about this is from those fucking people like family movie night Do I think they like they like oh movies that are like good for the family? Candice Cameron yeah

About her later on unfortunately perfect with our guests actually perfect. It is it is freaky the shit she's talking about is freaky Yeah, I I mean hey, I don't disagree man. Sometimes I watch a scary movie and I'm like, uh-oh Shut that has entered the building. My name is Jack O'Brien aka got news bites and jokes on P You've reached good old TDZ Baja blast this town, but stay home. Call us the Z. We hate the alt right banjo Eric G slime crack jokes off the dome. But, but, uh, but, but that's all I got that one courtesy of Halcyon

salad on the discord. What is that? Honour oh, soop job be Sloop John B. Who's that? You don't know Johnny. I know John B the R&B artist the soft pet sounds Oh, man, I only know three songs off pet sounds. This is the worst trip I've ever been on I'm learning a lot about these boys, man They sound pretty cool. But the best way to honor the life of Brian Wilson is me singing a song that is indistinguishable, unrecognizable, a way to do the man his propers.

The hits just keep coming. There's a tweet from somebody you wouldn't post about all these different musical luminaries who just had interactions with Brian Wilson, where he was like, he called them in the middle of the night and they were like, hey, can I get you to sing Shorten and Bread on my album? Then somebody was like, I took LSD with him and John Lennon and Harry Nielsen.

And the only thing he would talk about is like, he just played shortening bread on the piano over and over again. Wow. Apparently he thought that was the best song that had ever been written. Mama's little baby. I mean, was he saying shortening or are we saying like shortening? That's how much flavor was he putting on it? Oh. I mean, congratulations. Was he saying shortening, or were we saying like shortening? That's how much flavor was he putting on it? Oh, I don't know.

It never happened to me, and it's one of my biggest regrets. It never came to me. No one ever sang you that song? No, Brian Wilson never approached me, so I never knew how much stank, how much shortening he put on his shortening breath. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray

The Lord of Lancashire the shogun with no gun Los Angeles is very own and guess what we're okay here This might everything you're seeing on the news. We're okay here. We can handle our own In fact, we take care of our own to the point that we stick up for our own when goons try and come in and fuck With our peaceful way of living in harmony out here So please I mean obviously I'm preaching the choir here, but I still do get the occasional text now. Is everything okay there? Yeah, those three fucking way most you saw burning from last week. Yeah, they're they're fine. They're fine I've never seen a shot get that much mileage before, but damn, those, that, like the Waymo burning car shot, so much mileage from the news.

I believe the way most are the future lead lead them right in. They let them take your job away. Oh yeah, whatever. Anyways, they are very important. We do miss our three way most that got burnt and we're all trying to figure out how to move forward without those specific way Mo's. Why are you said tomorrow we're going to go get them tatted right? Big bad back that with like the way Mo's in the cloud.

It's Kobe, Michael Jackson and the three way Mo's. It's Kobe, Michael Jackson, and the three way mobs. And the three way mobs. Yeah. We need to do it. All right. One quick piece of business up top. Yes. For some reason, this show is having a bit of a resurgence.

Uh-oh. A bit of a gents. I don't know. We're seeing people. Do they know how second rate this is? I know. That's the thing. So, I don't know.

People are finding the point of view of this show helpful for some reason right now. Something about the mainstream media going completely to hell or fascism or probably Mark Maron going away, I would say. But we don't generally ask you guys to spread the word about the show because we are ashamed of it. Yeah. We think it's a bad show, but we're getting feedback that people are finding the show useful right now.

We just wanted to up top, I just wanted to, I didn't even run this by you, Miles, but I just wanted to ask. Jack, this is humiliating. Other podcasts do a thing where they're like, hey, share the show with your friends, rate and review, all that stuff.

I know. Usually we're too ashamed. Again, it's a bad show, it's second rate, but we're going to do the thing first rate podcast to share the show with your friends. They might find it useful. A lot of people are all of a sudden, which is weird, but we appreciate it. That's it. Yeah.

Let people know. Let people know. We love you all. We love all people here. We do. We love you all. We welcome the Zite gang is a broad tent. That's actually not true.

No, it does No, there's no racist fuckery. There's no homophobic Yeah, traditional sense, but alright miles. We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat Yeah, the host of the very funny horror movie podcast Kim and cat stay alive. Maybe it's Kim Burns and catch reporter Kets in effect so happy to be back. Oh, it's great to have you. Welcome back. Great to have you.

Thrilled to have you back. Yeah, well, especially on a Friday the 13th. Wow. I know, did you guys plan it? Almost like we planned it. Yeah, it's our holiday. Almost, but as Jack said up top, we are a second-rate podcast,

so that much thought does not go into this kind of thing. Truly anything that seems like it's planned is 100% accidental or done by super producers, Catherine, Victor and Bay without telling us. Yeah. Which ironically. If they did plan this. Yeah. It's our podcast exactly the same.

And then we sound like shit and that's where Justin and Brian, the editor, come in and help out. So yeah, we're truly stand on the shoulders of people who have their shit together. Yes. Is how I, is how I word it to my, I mean, there's even a story about opening portals of hell through movies. Honestly, can I go into one? Like, can we check out that place? This one is not going great. Yeah.

This version of hell, God, there's not even fun. Yeah, like, yeah. Check it out. I thought there'd be actual flying demons rather than predator drones flying above me, but I guess that's the deal here right now. Open a portal, let's dive in. Yeah.

All right, we're gonna get to know you both a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell the listeners a couple of stories we might be getting into a little bit later on. Donald Trump addressed Fort Bragg and there was a big, everyone was cheering. Boom! Yeah, like real. Wild.

It was like a raucous, violent political rally for Donald Trump, but like the audience were all uniformed military, which is weird. It's like bad. I don't know. It's not a line that I, it's not like the church state line that I usually think about that. But this, this one, because you like don't have to, because I guess it's so obvious why it would be bad, but it felt, it felt a little eerie. So we're going to look at that. We're going to talk about DJ Tanner specifically, the less crazy Cameron sibling. Yeah.

Right. And yet, and yet her podcast. specifically the less crazy Cameron sibling. Yeah. Right? How could that be? Yet, her podcast, she's making some wild claims about how horror movies open a portal of hell. I really enjoy the clip because she says that there's something evil that comes through a movie and her co-host is like, absolutely. 100 percent. like comes through a movie and her co-host is like, absolutely. 100%.

Then Kim and I have been possessed like over 350 times. So we're here to tell you like, it's fine. You're not yourselves anymore. And you look great for being possessed that many times. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much. I feel like you would at least dehydrate you a bit more, but you seem adequately hydrated.

No, no, it's kept us young. We're both actually 74 years old. That's incredible. Wow. I mean, that. I'd rather not. I'd rather not. I'd rather not. I'd rather not. I'd rather not. I'd rather not. I'd rather not. I'd rather not. I'd rather not. I'd rather not.

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I'd rather not. I'd rather not. I'd rather not. I'd rather not. I'd rather not. I'd rather not. I'd rather not. We do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? So I'm reading a book right now, a historical fiction novel, which is fantastic. It came out in 2015 called The Nightingale. It's about the role that women played in World War II for no particular reason, no particular reason that I'm reading about that. And then I just decided to Google what role did witches play in World War II? And I learned a lot.

So yeah, they did in fact play a role. The man who sort of invented or started the religious sect of witchcraft called Wicca or Wiccan, he did a whole fucking like dance in the woods that was documented, which did in fact line up to several of Hitler's missteps and their specific spell was to fog his decision-making. And then I'm sure that there were other like solitary

witches doing their own cool shit in the woods too. So that's what I Googled today. I like if they started off, they're like, we need this man to be on meth. Yeah. Put him on meth, God, please. I feel like we need to start doing some dances to fog Elon Musk's decision making right now.

More Gaelic. More Ketamine. More Ketamine. Yeah, very good. More Tusi. Snort the Tusi, Elor. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, if we have ideas, I literally wrote a spell Yeah, very good. Toosie. Snort the toosie, Elan. Yeah. Yeah.

So, you know, if we have ideas, I literally wrote a spell and have been posting it on my stories every single day for people to chant over and over and over if they want to for this exact reason. Is it like, uh, disrespectful if I chant the spell? Like even if I'm like, yeah, I mean, maybe we could get Elan to do more ketamine. Not at all. Okay. So all energy is welcome to recite for the recitation of the spell.

Yeah, totally. Great. I love that. I love how inclusive this is. It's not like Christianity, you know, like all these fucking rules. No, the intention. Sacraments? Before you... No, I'm just asking, like for Christianity, you got to do the sacraments before you even think

about eating our crackers. Closest I've been is visiting Sacramento when I was in fourth grade. Yeah. I thought you were going to talk about the night witches. Do you know the story of the night witches? I know, I was going to say the night witches. I wish to know the story of the night witches. I don't know the night witches.

They were not actual witches, but they weren't real witches, but they were a group of Soviet soldiers, women who would go fly these like old outdated biplanes, like the two winged things that are like half glider, half plane. And they would cut the engine and just glide over German soldiers and then drop bombs on them. So like they would be completely silent. But the sound of the like wood creaking sounded like broomsticks. And so the Germans called them the night witches.

And also they would be laughing their ass off as they dropped them. That is just so beautifully dope. Like witches and women are just so dope. I love it. Shout out to the night witch. Shout out to the Soviet Union for actually defeating the Nazis. Yeah Kim how about you anything from your search history? Uh, well, you know, I'm actually six months pregnant right now So it's just baby baby baby, how do babies work? How do I give a baby alive?

Am I gonna die what's happening? Oh my god baby alive. I'm not going to die. What's happening? Oh my God. Why do I have heartburn from everything? Yes. Do you have a lot of heartburn? I don't actually. Thank goodness. It happens and doesn't happen. Yeah. Okay. You're going to have a beautiful hairless baby. That's the, isn't that the old saying?

They say. Hair, it comes from hair. Yeah. Hair burn. Somehow. Yeah, hair burn. That sounds like a silly, unproven thing, but then the facts are once the baby's out and if the baby's breastfeeding, we were talking about this recently, just eating spicy food will somehow go

through your digestive tract into the breast milk, give the baby, it's that also sounds completely made up to me. Like snacks. The human back loop of like. Yeah, yeah. Right. I mean, babies are literally getting like

all of the mom's nutrients from the breast milk, so. So wild. Kim can't eat spicy foods though, so. Yeah, it's not easy. Nothing to worry about for me. No. You just don't like spicy foods to begin with? I'm just, so. Yeah, it's nothing to worry about for me. No. You just don't like spicy foods to begin with? I'm just, you know.

Are you very sensitive? Yeah, I'm just a white girl. I get it. Who eats a lot of cheese and potatoes. I'm just a white girl in the world. It's actually very sad because she asks to try all of my flavorful food for the last 25 years. She's been like, can I try that?

And I'm like, it's gonna be too much. Oh, like a parent? You're like, spicy, spicy. Yeah. Oh, spicy, spicy, yeah, she's been like, can I try that? And I'm like, it's going to be too much. Oh, like a parent, you're like, spicy, spicy. Yeah. Oh, spicy, spicy, yeah, it's spicy. And she's like, no, I want to try. And I'm like, okay. And then she's like, no, no.

Yeah, yeah. My boyfriend's Nigerian, so it's a tough battle, you know? Yeah, right. How do you live? Do you do the airplane coming in for a landing when she asks to do a spicy food? Yeah, if you want. Okay, here it's coming. And I'm giving you a chance to change a spicy. Okay, if you want. Okay, here it's coming and I'm giving you a chance

to change your mind. Yeah, I actually do the night witch. Where I just like cackle. Yeah. She knows it's trouble, right? Kim, what's something you think's underrated? Right now, also pregnancy-related buy nothing groups. You guys do buy nothing?

Fuck yeah. I love buy nothing. So much shit, I got so much baby shit. I got so much babies. I got a fucking like everything those things like my baby's like two and about to be two and a half. Like one of those step things so he can now be at the kitchen sink with me. Just swoop that shit up. There's so it's funny how like how much good baby shit there is on buy nothing because people buy it Thinking their babies gonna fuck with and like do the fucking baby hated this device or whatever We got everything

Rocking chair change. Yeah Easter eggs from by nothing groups. You know, I mean, I'm not paying for those little fucking plastic hollow Easter eggs There's always somebody who has like a fucking garbage bag full of them for free There's always somebody who has a garbage bag full of them for free. That's the best. Our Easter eggs are really on their fourth Easter, falling apart. I think a squirrel has cracked into a few of them because one year I just left them out the night before. The Easter bunny came and opened all your Easter eggs on a bunch of the candy. With their little razor teeth.

What a dick. I know the Easter eggs on a bunch of the fucking candy. Damn. With their little razor teeth. What a dick. I love Easter bunnies, a real dick. Yeah, Easter bunnies. What is, how about you, Kev? What's something you think's underrated? No joke. Your best friend having a baby.

I'm so excited about my little niece that's coming. I'm so excited. I never really wanted kids myself. I just never had that feeling. But like whenever Kim talks about it, I'm just like, I'm so excited. So what are you most excited for as a as as being an auntie to the baby? Just getting to, you know, get do all the good stuff, but then like give her back.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do like, do two hours. Is the thing you're most looking forward to? Yeah. It's like, I'm gonna shine for two hours, then I'm fucking out of here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna do little spells

with my little witch lit. I'm very excited about it. My witch lit. What's something you think is overrated, Kat? Not too down with fascism. Have you guys heard of fascism? I'm super not into it. I think it's really overrated, you know?

Well, we're trying it out. We're trying it out right now in LA. You know what? I'm here to tell you, don't even bother. Oh, really? Like, one star, honestly. Like, I'm not into it. Really know what, I'm here to tell you, don't even bother. Oh really? Like one star, honestly. Okay. Like I'm not into it. Really?

Yeah, yeah, no good. But it seems so popular and they seem so enthusiastic about having us try it out. It has a really aggressive PR system, but it's bad news bears, so. Walter Mathau, got it, got it. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And then you make the face of a baby

eating something spicy. Spicy. Spicy. Too spicy. Too spicy. No, you don't want, oh no, no, no, no. No, no. Got it. It's and then you make the face of a baby eating something spicy My friend does that with her three-year-old when like she's like, yeah. That's a parent hack if I smarted one. Yeah, it was really like. I'm putting it in my pocket. They're like, you don't know? You don't know? Yeah. Lucky. Spicy.

Then the kid's like 15 and is like, no, I don't like ice cream. It's too spicy for me. Too spicy for me. His friends are like, what the f-? All right. OK, yeah. It's like, have you guys heard of or seen the movie Dogtooth, where it's like a guy keeps his family captive and

like keeps outside truths from them. And then like, Like the village? Yeah, he like, he creates this weird reality in their backyard. It's the guy who made Poor Things his first movie. Oh, the Greek filmmaker. Oh, Yorgos Lanthimos? Yeah, yeah.

It's really weird and trippy, but- And Poor Things was the Emma Stone one. Emma Stone one. Yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah, he's a weirdo. I like him. I'll have to check that out.

Very strange. It's really interesting, but it sounds like that is the gateway drug, the thing of tasting ice cream and spitting it out. Being like, oh, disgusting. It's like gateway drug to like going full dog tooth. Like one of the things he does is like when they see airplanes in the sky, he then like goes and like grabs a toy plane and is like, here it is. It was just a toy that went across the sky.

Wow. To like keep them unaware of. This is fucking wild. That's trippy. It's a fucking really weird trippy movie. Subtler version is my brother-in-law, you know, wasn't really showing his kids TV. And the only time the TV would be on

is he would put on this Bruce Springsteen live in like Bryant Park or some shit DVD. And the kids started calling that TV. Yeah. Bruce Springsteen live was called TV. Like there was nothing else like completely redefined what TV was. You're like, Oh yeah, I've seen TV Bruce, like Bruce Springsteen. Wow.

He goes over to his friend's house and he's like, where's the boss? Yeah. What is, what is this? What is this? Just a box that shows all my clues. That's like a weird version it. What is this? What is this? This is a box that shows only that. This is Melluskus. Yeah. That's like a weird version of the Duggars. Yeah.

Yeah. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. But yeah, they're fine now. They're watching real shit now. They're old enough now. They're watching real shit. Good for them.

They're watching real shit. Congratulations. Bless. What is something, Kim, that you think's overrated? Right now, I guess just social media. Had to just drop that. Yeah. Drop that shit, you know?

Well, not like, I mean, I'm still on it. I'm not like a superhero. I'm not like a superhero. Everybody does that. I'm on it. I mean, I'm on it. I just like deleted the apps from my phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So now I have to like go on my browser. Yeah. Which like, I don't know if you ever use them on your browser, but it sucks. It's a whole other. There's no dopamine. I like to access TikTok from Internet Explorer from Netscape Navigator. And then you're like, I got to get out of here and go touch some grass because this isn't fun.

Yeah, this feels like every couple of, every couple years we have some kind of like crisis that we're getting fed through social media, like really intense visuals and like, luckily, like I learned my lesson in 2020 of like, I'll give myself about an hour and a half total of existential dread scrolling and then be like, hey, when you wake up, it's gonna be there. Don't worry, it'll be there. It's not going away So yeah that being said I will say one thing about that is like Going through something where I live in LA right so I am I am aware

Personally of what's going on right so like I can in real time debunk news stories if I go, well like that's actually not true because I'm experiencing it. And so as much as I also am fully, fully mentally ill from social media, it has been cool to see that like I have curated my algorithm to be independent journalists, who I now have proof are reporting accurately.

Yeah, right. So that's actually been kind of cool. So my entire Instagram right now is literally just horrible, terrible news from independent journalists and Los Angeles, and then clips of Beyonce's Cowboy Carter tour. Like that's the only thing that I'm consuming right now. And it does feel like Beyonce, like every few minutes

will be like, you got this girl. Like here's a little bit more strength for you to see some. Here's me flying through the crowd on a Cadillac. Yeah. And well, right now it's a horseshoe. Thank you very much, Cowboy Carter. That's what she's flying through the air with. Didn't she have some car on the tour too?

She probably did. I was just at the tour. Yes. I was just like, wait, dad, it was the horse. Anyway, yes. Yeah. I'm in mourning that I can only imbibe it through clips on social media. I'm sorry to say that. We can't talk about it right now.

It's a sensitive topic. I mean, I was just the very first show that kicked off the door. I mean, wow, okay. Um, Cool cool cool cool. Cool. You know one that has zero mistakes anyway, so this is cool. I have to go for no reason Better get out of here Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and we'll get into some news some of that Fascism you were talking about. Yeah. We're going to talk about that.

That's how you say it. Cool. Camp Shane, one of America's longest running weight loss camps for kids promised extraordinary results. Campers who began the summer in heavy bodies were often unrecognizable when they left. In a society obsessed with being thin, it seemed like a miracle solution. But behind Camp Shane's facade of happy, transformed children was a dark underworld of sinister secrets.

Kids were being pushed to their physical and emotional limits as the family that owned Shane turned a blind eye. Nothing about that camp was right. It was really actually like a horror movie. In this eight episode series, we're unpacking and investigating stories of mistreatment and reexamining the culture of fat phobia that enabled a flawed system to continue for so long. You can listen to all episodes of Camp Shame one week early and totally ad free on iHeart True Crime Plus.

So don't wait. Head to Apple Podcasts and subscribe today. on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This author writes, My father-in-law is trying to steal the family fortune worth millions from my son, even though it was promised to us. Now I find out he's trying to give it to his irresponsible son instead, but I have DNA proof that could get the money back. Hold up, so what are they gonna do to get those millions back?

That's so unfair. Well, the author writes that her husband found out the truth from a DNA test they were gifted two years ago. Scandalous. But the kids kept their mom's secret that whole time. Oh my God. And the real kicker, the author wants to reveal this terrible secret,

even if that means destroying her husband's family in the process. So do they get the millions of dollars back or does she keep the family's terrible secret? Well, to hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the iHeart ReadyWAP Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

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It's political, it's societal, and at times it's far from what I originally intended it to be. These days, I'm interested in expanding what it means to be VoiceOver, to make it customizable for anyone who feels the need to explore their relationship to Relationships I'm talking to a lot of people who will help us think about how we love each other

It's a very very normal experience to have times where a relationship is Prioritizing other parts of that relationship that are being naked together how we love our family I've spent a lifetime trying to get my mother to love me, but the price is too high. And how we love ourselves. Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now. Let me hear it.

Yes. Listen to VoiceOver on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action.

And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chafkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. With guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain.

I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to everybody's business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And earlier in this week, Donald Trump went to Fort Bragg. Ever heard of it? Ever heard of it? Ever heard of the traitor General Braxton Bragg from the Civil War?

Is that? Yeah, that's right. That's his name. Cool. And he gave a speech that was like a lively political rally, like one of his more unhinged like, fuck the Democrats, like we should arrest Newsome type shit. But like in front of the military and it was like 10 cent beer night at the military, at Fort Bragg or something. Everybody was just turned all the way up.

Who'd be all over it? They'd be like, yeah. Yeah. It was bloodthirsty screams, which is, yeah, there's supposed to be a line between politics and the military for reasons that are obvious. Reasons that made the speech feel like unnerving, like down to the bone. Oh yeah.

Cause when you have the president goading uniformed soldiers into like booing like the news or Biden or whatever, you're like, Oh boy. Cause aren't those the people that he's trying to get to do like the bad stuff to us? You're like, yikes. Um, but again, like most things in Trump's life that involves putting his like fragile ego on the line, this was a production.

Because these weren't just like, just like these weren't just every, I mean, these were legitimate soldiers, but they had to go through a bit of a, I guess we call it a casting process. What would you call it Jack? Selection process? Reality stars are gonna reality star, you know?

Yeah. Always. 100%. Yeah. Military.com my source for all news. I usually like their movie reviews. I'm like what's military.com say? The tips for men I love on that one.

How to open a water bottle, how to fucking just bite off the end of a stogue off. But they did some digging here. They're like, even we didn't really love that. So internal 82nd Airborne Division communications reviewed by military.com reveal a tightly orchestrated effort to curate the optics of Trump's recent visit, including handpicking soldiers for the audience based on political leanings and physical appearance. And that's how you know that's real.

The physical appearance part, you're like, that's Trump, mm-hmm. The troops ultimately selected to be behind Trump and visible to the camera were almost exclusively male. One unit-level message bluntly said, no fat soldiers. That's a direct quote. No fat soldiers. Jesus's a direct quote.

No fat soldiers. Jesus. I guess Trump got to be there because he's not a soldier. He's not a soldier. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. He's a draft dodger.

And then quote, if soldiers have political views that are in opposition to the current administration and they don't want to be in the audience, then they need to speak with their leadership and get swapped out. At least they had an option. They're like, look, if you can't feign enthusiasm for this piece of shit, just tell your, tell your commander and we'll, we'll get you out of there. We'll get you out of there. Yeah.

It's a, again, you know, not, not a great sight to see, but the slight silver lining there and you're like, Oh right. He had to assemble that to have that feeling because right now he has to try and project as much fucking power as possible because nothing really legislatively is going right. Obviously, the executive orders are causing a ton of shit, but the court losses continue to mount. But then also there's another story.

It's like, oh, wait, this is a shocker. The soldiers deployed in LA are also telling advocacy groups that morale is low because they're also smart enough to see that LA isn't a war zone. This is from The Guardian, quote, three different advocacy organizations representing military families said they had heard from dozens of affected service members

who expressed discomfort about being drawn into a domestic policing operation outside their normal field of operations. The group said they have heard no countervailing opinions. Soldiers have said now that when they're deployed, when they asked them, they're like, oh, why does this feel bad? And they're all saying, well in the past,

a question they're asking themselves, they're like gently touching their chest being like, why does this feel bad? As if they're like clubbing somebody from horseback. Or having to help that person club an innocent person. So they said that normally when they're deployed into cities on United States soil, that it's for things that help people. Like, you know, wildfire relief or COVID vaccination outreach.

You know, like positive shit for their communities. And they're like, this is just like a lot of people say like, we just feel like ponds. This is all like a political thing. And like, we're just like, yeah, that's kind of what the US does to the military. Yeah, it's crazy. Because LA actually has like multiple neighborhoods right now that have devastating destruction from fires and could help rebuilding. Like there's actually things that could be helped with. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But they can handle it themselves. So those places are probably going to have to come to us for help. And that's when we get all the sweet, sweet data. Yeah. That's when we get that sweet, sweet data. And we can track them right down.

Yeah. I mean, that's what he's saying. I mean, yeah, to that point, Kim, like he said, they're going to wind down FEMA after this freaking season. Wind down FEMA? What are you like, what does that mean? Essentially, I think what he's saying is he now in their ideal world, because they're gangsters, they're going to sit on the pile of money that states come

begging for when their, when their places are hit by devastation, And then you have to base probably pledge how to Trump and then you get your money back or maybe you get nothing because you were being spicy. Yeah. Yeah. Fat and spicy about something. You don't know like a like a spicy big bite from 7-Even. We don't know but again, it's like yes. Oh, no I was just gonna say like again like just reading Reading the book that I'm currently reading it's really strange like how much this all lines up like in the sense of

People talk about like oh oh, history repeats itself. Sure, sure, sure. Like similar situations happen. This is like by the book, like exactly what's happening and what already happened and what we saw, how it went down and how it played out and where this ends up. And I think that is blowing my mind enough that it's staving off a nervous breakdown, if you know what I mean. I'm so fascinated by it for a second that I'm not-

You're still at the wowee phase? Wowee. Wowee. I'm at the wowee phase. I'm at the wowee phase. This is the beginning of the roller coaster. Wowee. For someone who, this motherfucker hates to read.

We know that. He does not like to read. Well, he likes to be mind-confed by his head. I was going to say, the one book that we know he's loyal to is a book of Hitler's speeches. He is a student of this. It's a thing that's been known since the 90s. I actually didn't know that. Trump, because I honestly assumed he was illiterate.

I'm not even joking. I honestly assumed he was illiterate. I'm not even joking. I assumed that he's illiterate. Whether it was for effect or because he was actually slowly making his way through Hitler's speeches over the course of many years. Right, 79 years. He did have a book of his speeches at his bedside table. There's a New Yorker profile of him that also like ended with him trying to

impress the reporter by being like, look at this signed Evander Holyfield boxing glove. More about the Hitler books. You may have seen that. You may not have. It's impossible to say. Do you remember Mike Tyson bit his whole ear off? That's from then. But yeah, to your point, Jack, he's

trying to speed run Hitler's rise to power without really any thought into how long it takes to fully flip the switch to Third Reich. He's sloppy and distracted. And luckily, he doesn't really seem to realize that 2025 America is very different than post-World War I Germany. Back then, it's just like, and I have the one loud speaker system in town. Right.

You know, everybody, like people communicate in such a different way. And however, he's doing it, it's happening, but he doesn't quite have the same sort of loyalty or he hasn't quite turned the population. That isn't quite happening yet. There's still a ton of resistance to that. Well, and I don't think that he'd even be as far as he is without Stephen Miller. Like Stephen Miller, I think is the one who is, has any brains, which is so unfortunate because like his brain should have been confiscated long ago. But I think that's the only reason he's literally had any success in that way,

actually enacting things. Trump would have been fine if this were a purely just grift-based corrupt administration. He doesn't like, at the end of the day, he definitely is racist, but he's not going to be like, I don't know, man, if people cheer for me and I can get rich, like, I'm trying to get rich. That's all right, you can't fuck about.

Like, oh, sorry. You want to do racism? Fine. If you want to go ahead. Yeah. Okay. But the ability to communicate over social media and like have lanes of communication that aren't controlled by the government, I will just say, like

that is, I was talking earlier in the week about Masha Gessen, the journalist who lived through the rise of Putin. and the journalist who lived through the rise of Putin. And they were saying that, you know, you, each year you look back and you're like, wow, we had so much more that we could do just like one year ago. Like it just keeps getting worse and worse in ways that you hadn't even really considered. And that feels like one of the things that I could easily see taken is like somehow locking down social.

I mean, the, like social media feels free in some ways, like in the ways that like you have citizen journalists who are able to, but it's also tightly controlled and a huge source of data for those companies and for police. So I don't know. Cause I think the other part is while there isn't the Tannoy system, huge source of data for those companies and for police. So I don't know. Well, because I think the other part is while there isn't the tan noise system of post-World War, you know, like in the early days of fascism that was giving people the loudspeaker, we do have now like the AI shit that is on X right now.

People are just posting wacky ass like war zone shit saying it's LA and it's all AI. And people are eating that shit. Really? Yeah. It's so scary. Like, so it's a little bit. Yeah. It's precarious.

I'm not saying we're totally out of the water, but like it's, there's a lot of factors that I think it is not fully quite being considered. I'm like, I think, I don't know. like, and I hate to be a little bit like, you could do it a little bit better, Trump, if you really think you want to turn people. I don't know if this is the way to do it, babe, but hey. And all I'm saying is I think he's doing fine. All I'm saying is great work as a fascist.

Please swap out Stephen Miller for me, Donald. I have ideas. Baby, I've got your back. Just please turn your back to me in a room. That would be wonderful. I've got it. I've got your back. Yeah, I do have fantasies of somehow

like diving deep into infiltrating this regime and just, Kim and I talk about this all the time. Kim and I are just like, oh man, like we would just love to get in, just put us in a room with these dudes. How do you get Kim and I in a room with these dudes? Let us know. And by the way, I'm gonna make sure,

Justin, please cut this because I can't say this, but the thing that when he turns his back on me in the room, I'm gonna pants his ass. Oh yeah. Yeah, Yeah. And that's what I, that's what I'm implying. Yeah. Yeah. We're also implying that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm also only talking about pants. Yeah. Yeah. Pants. I just want to pants him. Don't you feel like he would be actually like the character in the movies with the big boxer shorts that have hearts on them. Yes. I feel like there's no way he's not wearing big boxer shorts. I don't know.

I think he wears weird ass underwear. No, he has diapers. There's diapers under there. Yeah. He's got big blooming boxer shorts. Or he's like a never nude Tobias interactive. You pull him down and there's just another pair of slats under there. But I feel like the best way to do it is you give them something to hold and then yeah

By all me yeah, you would be brought in as a consultant Donald Trump pants and consult they're like Donald we want to present you with this golden bar And it's only the strongest men are able to voice it above their heads. I love that. So we'll get you some men with this one. We'll get you some help with that. I've got it. We'd better get some strong men.

Sir, are you sure? Yeah, I've got it. Oh my God, sir, you are so strong. Lift it above your head, sir. Ah! Look at him go. Ah! Ah! Oh my God, I love this.

But can I come in? Can I slide in? Look at him go. Oh my God, I love this. Can I come in? Can I slide in? After the panting has happened, everyone's super shocked. Can I come in and pants the diapers down so we can all see his little micro weenie? Can I do that? Great. Oh my God. And he gets fully aroused because this is all part of his thing.

And then it gets weird. This is all he's ever wanted, actually. And then poops himself. Yeah, yeah. Great. We figured it out. And then we've saved democracy. Okay.

So DNC, give us a call. We've got some ideas. I know you just ousted David Hogg for saying he was going to primary asleep at the wheel incumbents, but we might have a more elegant solution. Hogg's out at DNC. Call us in. It's a NYT thing. It really said that. That's what it said. It did. Hog Hogs out at DNC. It's a NYT thing.

It really said that was what it said. Hogs out at DNC. Jesus, the New York Times. Oh sheesh. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. Camp Shane, one of America's longest running weight loss camps for kids, promised extraordinary results.

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it to be. These days, I'm interested in expanding what it means to be voiceover, to make it customizable for anyone who feels the need to explore their relationship to relationships. I'm talking to a lot of people who will help us think about how we love each other. It's a very, very normal experience to have times where a relationship is prioritizing other parts of that relationship that are being naked together. How we love our family.

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A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding but the price has gone up so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action and that's just one of the things we'll be covering on everybody's business from Bloomberg Business Week. I'm Max Chafkin and I'm Stacey Bannock Smith. Every Friday we will be diving into the biggest stories in business taking a look at what's going on why it matters and how it shows up in our everyday lives. With guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and

consumer spending expert Amanda Mull, we'll take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to everybody's business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And we like to check in with the tanners every once in a while, you know, see what they're

like, like people who like cure leather? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The DJ tanners, the DJs who cure leather. Sure. The only, like the tanner that I wish was not still famous is unfortunately the one. The one who's famous. Because all those twins kinda just dropped off, right?

Like they're not doing shit. They just took their money and ran. They were like, goodbye. They're my favorite kind of billionaires. We leave the prestige for our little sister. They're my favorite kind of billionaires because they're just like, we're disappearing. Like we're out of here.

Exactly. I feel like they are on the strangest yacht parties. Like around, you know what I mean? Well, cause wasn't one of them like Sarkozy's brother? Yeah. And their yachts shaped like a cigarette. That is. Yeah. Yeah, all of them. Would you say one of them is Sarkozy's brother? Yeah. And their yachts shaped like a cigarette. Yeah. Yeah.

All of them is Sarkozy's brother. One of the Olsen twins. No, she's dating Sarkozy's brother. Olivia Sarkozy. That's the energy that I get is like they're involved with the sort of, the sort of guys who are like in that room that Liam Neeson infiltrates and taken? Oh, 100%. All the rich people who are just sitting back, bidding on...

They're doing rare earth mineral deals right now. They're like, we used to do, we had our line of kids clothes, we have moved on, we're moving on, we're moving on. Rare earth minerals. Rare earth mineral deals. As producer Victor said, they're watching the real squid games in a dark basement in Korea. With no mask though too. Yeah.

We're not shook, babe. We're proud of this. We're good. The story about one of them being the first person that was called when they found Hugh Jackman unresponsive, allegedly. Heath Ledger. Sorry, Heath Ledger. Don't bring Hugh Jackman.

I was like, what happened to Hugh Jackman? The greatest showman? Yes. I've always confused him. She's like the wolf from Pulp Fiction or some shit. That is the timeline. I would suggest that she's the wolf, but I'm assuming that she has a wolf that like works for her.

And she was more the Marcellus Wallace. And she's like, what happened? Okay. Let me call Leon Panetta at the CIA really quick. Right. Yeah. Anyway, on the other side, like, and less cool that, is Candice Cameron Burr? Burray.

Burray. Yes, yes. Is it? B-U-R-E. It's more of a burr vibe, but I guess we're pronouncing it burray. Honestly, I bet it is burr, and she was like, it's burray. I bet she added the A onto it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, because she's married to the hockey player, Valerie Bure. Oh, bummer. So she has a podcast. I'm sure it's in queue for most of our listeners right behind this one. They go back and forth between the Candace Cameron Bure show, I believe, the Candace Cameron Bure podcast. Okay. Good. Well done, Candace Cameron Beret Show, I believe. The Candace Cameron Beret Podcast. Ah, ah, ah, okay. Good, well done, Candace.

And this one that is just like one and two. I always see it in the year-year wrapped rankings right below when people send us, they're like, TDZ was my number one. The Candace Cameron Beret Podcast, number two. It's an odd Venn diagram. On this podcast, she was talking about how she doesn't watch scary movies. Because your TV, when you think about it, is just a portal.

I'm so tired. Sorry, what is this, poltergeist? I'm so tired. Look, I understand how movies work, but there's quote, still something that can be incredibly demonic while they've made it. Like on set. This is when I think Kurt Co-host came in and said, absolutely. Hold on, they're real. Should we just hear them actually saying it's lightning to hear it?

The clip that we have, I think, is even cutting out the liquid death part. Oh, we'll get to the liquid. We can get to the liquid on the other side of this. Oh, God. I don't even want someone watching a scary movie in our house on the TV, because to me, that's just a portal. Listen, I'm in the film industry.

I understand how it all works. Hold on, I didn't even realize that's how she was gonna fucking... Look, listen, I'm in the industry. I fucking know how the portal works, okay? Listen to what he's saying. I've looked at the physics, I've looked at the metaphysics, and look, this is how it works.

This poor bastard sitting across from her is just like, uh-huh. But again, it sucks being a co-host, because you've got to agree with your host all the time. Don't I know it? Tell me about it. There's still something that can be incredibly demonic while they've made it. The guy looks away and goes, Oh, for sure. Monic while they've made it.

Oh, for sure. Of course. The demon. And speak on that queen. Yeah, please. Yeah, please. Ah, yes. Go off, for sure. Oh, for sure. Of course, the demons. And speak on that, Queen. Yeah, please. Yes. Please. Yes.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Go off. Go off. And I feel like it's a portal that gets opened up and let in, and that just reminded me, like you posted something a while back about liquid death. Yeah. What?

What? Yeah. Uh-huh. I sure did. I like how she just says, I think it's, I feel like it's a portal. No, like not even anecdotal evidence. Usually like a crackpot like this will be like, so my friend's daughter, you know what I mean? Would do some shit. Usually that's how these like terrible misinformation,

conspiracy podcasts work, like some bad anecdote. She's just like, and I get it. Also liquid death. And you're like, oh, okay. So everyone's really got their own. Yeah. You need to get your best friend's daughter possessed by one of the final destination movies, Candace Cameron. You're fucking up right now. I guess we'll just let her, what else, what, what, what about? I want to hear what she has to say about liquid death.

Here, let's pull that back one more time. I guess we'll just let her do what else what about I want to hear what she has to say. Yeah, yeah Let's pull that back one more time. Minded me like you posted something a while back about Liquid death. Yeah And you're like, so do you want to buy a product? That is literally being Going out into distribution. That is literally being cursed. Literally being cursed. Cut away to the placeholder of her just being like, ding. Does anyone know how to get out of here?

No. The Earth? Like off the Earth right now? Yeah. Yeah. Have you seen that meme where the old man's in the wheelchair and he's like, I hate this escape room. And the thin Earth is like, sir, this is planet earth. Right.

Liquid death. Literally being cursed as it's going out into distribution. What that means. That would be so cool if they were doing that. Are they doing that? Are they literally cursing the liquid death water or are they just saying like the name liquid death? I think it's because it like has a skull on it.

And I'm like, girl, do you know that you have a skull like inside you? Like you have a skull inside you? You have a skeleton in there, just bouncing around. Oh, they're, I think they were doing it for marketing. And this is the thing that happens when evangelical freaks see it. Good for them. In Liquid Dith's latest video,

the company hired a working witch doctor known as Mystic Dylan to put a Because of Dylan putting a curse on bottled all of the water in the company's warehouse. And again, that's just part of their troll marketing. They're like the church of Satan. You know what I mean? They just know, they're like, watch this shit.

Watch us get some fucking clicks by saying this shit. Guess what I'm picking up at Costco in bulk now. Cursed, water, death. I love that. Yeah, wow. Good for her. I mean, I'm glad that, it's also funny funny that dude had such like janky youth pastor vibes too when he's like any like evangelical do rockin Jordans.

I'm always like, bro, when is this scandal about to drop with you full? Like I'm not, I'm not falling for this shit. Just cause you got the really stylish haircuts from five years ago. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. I literally like, I don't know. It's opening up. Just like really stylish haircuts from five years ago. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Exactly.

Yeah. I literally like, I don't know. It's opening up a portal to hell. Like what can we make, can we get our as horror movie fans, can we get a horror movie recommendation, like what's the movie that is most felt to you like it's an opening or portal to hell that maybe we could recommend for a canvas. I hate scary modeling and all this. Hold on. Give us a. to you like it's opening a portal to hell that maybe we can recommend for a canvas. Oh, fuck, Jack. I hate scary modeling. I don't need to know this, man. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, friends for many, many, many years. We wanted to start a podcast, but we knew that we wanted to have something to talk about,

because we knew that we could talk to each other for ad nauseum for 24 plus hours at a time, just about our own lives and musings and things. We were two of the only sort of group of our friends that really liked going to see horror movies together. When we went to see Hereditary. Oh, I thought you were going to say the other one. Oh, well, you should talk about that one. So yes, I guess that's the one. Okay. So Kim's right. There are two. So Her hereditary I feel like was the movie where I was like There there is a

supernatural evil Entity in the world and somebody made a movie about it and I'm here for it They can't it really it really did. I think it's kind of hard to Like scare Kim and I'm here for it. It really did. I think it's hard to scare Kim and I. We like the scare. It's hard to give us nightmares. I feel like we did have to talk about the movie a lot just to process it. I am now realizing I haven't seen Hereditary because I actually agree with Candace Cameron or Beray that there is an evil in this world. Watching that will open evil into my life. There's an evil entity.

The stills of Tony Collette's face screaming opened a portal to hell. When I looked at it, I was like, I can't. Damn, we actually agree with her. But the one Kim's talking about, you should, I always forget what the full title of it is. Oh, I thought you were gonna say, thanks killing. Oh, fuck. Don't even, I'm kidding.

The exorcism of Emily Rose. Emily Rose by the coward Robert Ford. Is that? Yeah. The assassination of Jesse James. Yeah. Wait, why that one, Kim? Cause it is such,

cause it's dealing directly with demons entering your body? It's the chick from Dexter, Dexter's sister. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But she did all of her own, I don't know if you call them stunts, but like, so her body was like moving. Oh, contortion shit? Yeah, contortion. And it's wild.

Oh, really? Like the way she can make her face move. Yeah. Like, this was no AI. This is no AI. Wow. That's all I'm this was this was no AI. Yeah. Wow. That's all I'm saying. This is no AI.

Says the priest as he's smoking a cigarette looking. This is no AI. But yeah, we could even talk about it afterwards. Katrin kept trying to like bring stuff up, but I was like, keep it to yourself. Don't talk to me. And I thought this was that portal I need. Yeah, I need to close that portal. I need to process. I need to process the portal.

And Kim was like, please close the portal. I don't want to be in the portal. And I was like, but we're here and I have to talk about it. I have to talk about everything. But to just take it back, Candice Cameron Bure has never watched any of those movies. Or even could, nobody who she knows has ever watched any of those movies. I bet she's talking about like Beetlejuice. She is definitely talking about. She's talking about Philadelphia, Jack with Denzel Washington.

That's what the folks are talking about. Poltergeist was definitely cursed though. Right. So producer Catherine pointed out that Poltergeist is one that. Evangelical. St stuck with people, people like they just, they have so little to worry about in many cases. And so they're just like making up shit to like be scared of and telling each other ghost stories.

And it is fun. Rather than going to therapy. Yeah. It is fun. Like when I lived in Kentucky, like there were, there was like a lot of... The best basketball game after school was fellowship of Christian athletes, and then they would give you a Christian testimony afterwards.

And I saw some wild shit that was like, yeah, the dark, like the darkest shit that you've ever seen outside of a fucking recovery meeting. Like can you do the stuff that like get people out or whatever? I talked about one that always stuck with me where somebody was like talking about how their sister died next to them in a car accident and they like as she died they like knew she was going to hell because she hadn't been saved by Christ. Oh my god. Yeah yeah and like and then somebody we knew like a kid who we played basketball with, died of a brain aneurysm and the moms started gossiping about whether or not he was saved. What a horrible fucking existence.

Yeah, yeah. What a horrible existence. But that's what they got going on. That's yeah. Candice, Cameron, please, you need to worry about the real threat. Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen are out here selling depleted uranium. Right? To bad actors.

I also am not entirely convinced, and I hope this is true. I really do because I have a very soft spot for child actors in my heart. So like Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen are kind of the only billionaires where I'm like, you do you ladies, like keep your billions. That's a rough road. Truly, honestly, because I'm just like, whatever these little girls saw, like as children,

like I'm just like, you deserve billions. But I'm also not entirely convinced that they're of this planet. Like I feel like they are the strongest argument for like aliens living among us. I really do There's those I went to elementary school with them and they were pretty normal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they're cool Yeah, yeah, are they cool? They were yeah, they were cool. Yeah, they're just normal there when they were in school Oh, there we are. Oh my cutting out see because I signed an NDA

And I'm putting myself at tremendous risk right now. Hold on, somebody's at my door. I need to go get that. Somebody's at my door. I'll be right back. I'm sure it's not. That actually makes me so happy that they were like, like normal. Like they have friends, you know what I mean?

And like they were just, you know, they were in the grade below me. You know, you know, Mary Kate asked me, you know, she wanted if I could take her to the dance, you know what I mean? And like, they were just, you know, they were in the grade below me. You know, Mary Kate asked, you know, she wanted if I could take her to the dance, you know what I mean? But it wasn't like that. We didn't have dates to the school dances back then. You know, it's nothing, you know what I mean?

Yeah, no big deal. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But then they seemed normal. I mean, growing up in LA, like I grew up with a lot of kids who were on TV and in movies. And yeah, it's definitely a, it's a variety. Like, you know, Michelle Trachtenberg, you know,

rest in peace, I went to high school with her. And, you know, she was also like a very normal kid. And like, but I get like, when you are acting as a kid, there's so much more psychological, like such a psychological burden on you to keep working to either support your family to like not be bullied by other kids. It's like it's it's yeah, it's fucked up. That's why like to your point, I'm like, if you make it out of there, fucking God bless you, because I knew I knew I know too many kids that didn't. Maybe I'll mention this in my plug area. But this is not

something that I normally talk about. But just because it's coming up like one of my day jobs is I actually work with professional actor children and I mentor them in like life skills and so I give them normal childhood opportunities and events and things like that and we have like a monthly life lesson kind of group or whatever and It's actually a nonprofit organization called Looking Ahead that is free. Like if you're a professional actor, it's free. You can be in it from the age of nine to 18, and you're in it for the rest of your life, even if you quit acting. And it's specifically geared towards the types of struggles that professional actor kids are dealing with that are just like, there is no other,

there's no comparable situation to it. It's a very singular situation. And I have a lot of feelings about child actors. Yeah, it seldom works out. And it seldom ends up with a kid being able to have their childhood or their childhood innocence intact without having to either, you know, best case is like you grow up rapidly. It's like the best case. Yeah. And its worst case, it's just all the self-doubt. The worst case is you don't grow up. Yeah, exactly. You are dead. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

All right. So that's the real portal, Candace. What about that portal? Maybe reach out to your former co-stars, see how they're doing, help facilitate some uranium deals for them. Tell them to put the depleted uranium down. Yeah. Kim, Kat, such a pleasure having you both on the show. Where can people find you? Kim, we'll start with you and follow you and all that good stuff. Is there work in media you've been enjoying?

Yeah, you can find us both at KK Sam Podcast and listen to us at Kim and Ket Stay Alive, maybe wherever you hear podcasts. In honor of Friday the 13th, we have since our podcast started actually done all of the entire franchise from movie one. So this week we have Jason X. Oh, yeah. That's a fun one. There's some really fun kills in that one. There are some fun kills in that one.

Yeah. End of sentence. He in space. Yeah. That's wild. And then is there a tweet or a work of media, social media you've been enjoying? Well, this is media media, but... Media media. Yeah.

Also allowed. I just found Righteous Gemstones. Oh. See, I've been telling you about that goddamn show for like two years, but you never listen to me and then find it on your own and you're like, whatever. Been around. Yep. It's 2019. Yeah. It's great you guys. What do you think of Uncle Baby Billy? He was the reason we're on like a Walton Goggins kick. We did White Lotus and then we did the...

Oh and like comparing the two? Yeah you're like Uncle Baby Billy is like peak goggy. Peak goggy. So great. I'm here for it. So just letting people know there's a show called Righteous Gemstones if you haven't heard of it. Yeah, it's pretty good. I recommend it. Oh my God, I can't wait to talk to you about it, Bernsy. Yeah. He has a great final season too.

Uncle Baby Billy. Uncle Baby Billy. Dude, Teensyus. God, I love that show. How about you? Where can people find you? Is there a work media you've been enjoying? Yeah.

Well, actually, Kim already plugged our mothership show, which is our baby. But my husband and I actually just started sort of a sister show, a spinoff to KK Sam. My husband and I are doing a YouTube show where we are rewatching every episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer together. And sort of, you know, running, we both are in love with that show, been in love with that show for so many years. And now that the reboot has been announced,

we were really excited to just kind of dive back into it. And, you know, we have our commentary, we take the piss out of it for sure, but it comes from definitely a place of love and we're so excited about it. Kim has already guessed it on an episode of it and is legally required to guest on at least one episode per season, which I'm saying on the air now

so that she can't get out of it. It's binding now. You should write it down and mail it to yourself too. Yeah, exactly. But it's called Major Slayage. So you can find us on YouTube at Major Slayage. And we're just having so much fun. We love it.

And we're at Major Slayage pod on all social media and things like that. I think next week, season two, episode one comes out. Nice. Drop the slayage hammer on them. Yeah. Very excited about that. That's fun. Is there a work of social media or media otherwise that you've been enjoying? Well, I'm back into enjoying books.

Have you heard of them? B-O-O-K-S. I scared me. Made of paper. So I would like everyone to go out and read the 2015 The Nightingale. And let's be a big book club together. There we go. I believe I do know them. They're the ones where you can find by asking, donde esta el biblioteca? Yes. That is correct. They will take you to the books if you say that.

Very fun. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Yes. Find me everywhere at milesofgray. Find Jack and I talking the MBA finals just for a wee bit longer on miles and Jack Scott. Mad Boosties. That's where we're talking that. Join us for the final season. The only podcast that 100% picked the Pacers, I will say. And we're looking pretty smart.

Thank you. Or we might have egg on our face. Anyway, and also if you like 90 Day Fiance, catch me talking 90 Day Fiance on 420 Day Fiance. Now, let's see some works of media like yes, at Skeletor inspires.bsky.social on blue sky, post it, they just post like Skeletor images but with like nice life affirming quotes.

And it's a Skeletor. Oh I love those. It's great, this one just says Skeletor on it and it says, self-improvement takes time. After all, you didn't turn into a piece of shit overnight. I've been burnt. I'm like, hell yeah. I'm burnt. I'm like, that's some perspective.

Skeletor, thank you. You're right. You're right. Yeah. That's lovely. And then Miles Clee.beesky.social posted, quote, you're unhappy because you spend too much time on your phone.

Speak for yourself. I'm posting this shit from desktop like a true lunatic. That's me. That's what Kip's doing. I was thinking of that when he said, I was like, I recently liked something like that. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore, O'Brien, bluesky, at Jack OB the number one.

Working Media I've been enjoying at B underscore Kerr tweeted, if you want to be my uncle, you got to get with my aunt. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram and you can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it and there you will find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information from today's episode and the sources. We also link off there to a song that we think you might enjoy.

Hey, Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy? Yes, yes, yes. This one has an, yeah, this one's got an LA artist and the track is called Leave Me Alone because I think that's how LA is feeling right now. Just leave me the funk alone, we're fine. This is Fred again with Baby Keem. Leave me alone. But

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