The Daily Zeitgeist - Caught Out There, Hawk Tua’s Predictable Ending 12.10.24
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I'm a little tired today, so I might be doing some of this, even if it's not a clanker.
Totally fair.
I'm also very tired.
I woke up at three in the morning with the worst headache I've ever had.
Me too.
Oh, wow.
Yo, yeah, you woke up at three also.
Yeah.
That was noisy.
Yo, yeah.
One of those time-lapse commercials.
Yeah. I like connected. Oh, yeah. One of those commercials. Yeah.
Connected.
Did you watch the fuck?
What was the what's the paranormal podcast, dude, who you had on?
Oh, Jack.
Also Jackson.
Otherworld.
Otherworld.
It's like, dude, you're like those those two women in the otherworld thing who are connected
by the aliens.
Oh, shit. Well, we said that.
I also feel like I might be connected.
Now, I still haven't listened to it.
It's fucking holding it for Christmas.
I also feel like I might be connected to the shooter in some ways across time.
I'm just saying, like, like in a romantic way.
Yeah, I think I think I think we're star-crossed lovers.
You're in the Lake house relationship.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like I was, I was at the hotel a month before him and then the day before he
gets caught, I wake up at three in the morning with like fucking anxiety and
panic, like closing in and hankering for McDonald's.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
I buy it.
Yeah, there's something there.
You know what?
I'll buy it.
I woke up with heart palpitations at three in the morning to the smell of egg McMuffins.
I didn't know what the fuck was happening.
Yeah.
My Ted Kaczynski book was smoking.
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You can see what I look like saying shit like this.
Although this episode won't be up there,
but I say stuff like that all the time.
That's so me.
This is not the episode where you'll get to see that.
This is not the episode.
This is the episode that's being recorded
on a very interesting day on the internet.
They've just identified the CEO shooter,
the CEO assassin allegedly
Alleged a person of interest and the reason they find him so interesting
And those signature eyebrows, yeah and the fan those brows
Yeah, you couldn't pluck your brows at all, homie.
Like those, like that is, that has to be the, anyways.
It's Tuesday, December 10th, 2024.
Yeah.
12, 10, 24.
That's a day that we'll live on in, is it not?
In infamy.
Yeah, no, no, truly, truly.
I think it's the sun.
I'm trying to think, is there any, oh, I just want to say it is Bobby Flay's birthday today,
so shout out the chef.
Also, rest in peace, Michael Clark Duncan, it is also your birthday as well.
It's also National Logger Day, and it's only two holidays, National Logger Day and another
one I can really get behind, it's Dewey Decimal System Day.
Shout out to all the fuckin' Oles
who learned how to navigate a card catalog
to get a book to do research for a paper
that they didn't want to do or add to to get their diploma.
I feel like that was the baseball card collecting
of academia, like a thing that we were told
was like the wave of the future
and we were gonna need this.
You're gonna wanna have a lot of knowledge in this world
and then it just completely went away. I had a bad habit. I was only three days late by the way.
Alex was right. December 7th is the day that we'll live on an infamous. Oh, Pearl Harbor? Oh. I
thought Pearl Harbor. I only knew because of Mad Men, which is terrible. Yeah. I thought you were
saying that because they caught Luigi.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
This is, and that's what I meant actually.
I wasn't being stupid and wrong about history.
It's what I meant.
About the Pearl Harbor attack.
I'm just saying 1210 has kind of more of a ring to it, people, historians.
I'm just saying maybe think about it.
I'm just saying Hirohito, you could have maybe planned it a little bit better for the fucking market for the SEO. Well seven is so random
Oh my god
But you know, I'm just thinking back when the card catalog shit was around I had a habit of stealing all the little pencils that they
Would keep in libraries because you know, this like a pre-digital everything like You know there'd be scraps for you to write down like where the shit wasn't I always I always took like a couple of those little
Pencils, I don't know why never did anything with them, but they were there for me to take so I took miles
I always took the little pieces of scrap paper. We were destined together together
We're also connected
No, that's made in the cold open, but, uh, Alex, I was
pitching that I'm, uh, connected in some way to the shooter because I was, I was
at the hotel where it went down a month before it went down.
Two months.
Let's not, let's not, let's not.
Two months.
That's not like a totally inaccurate hagiography already.
Days. Sir, it was a number of days.
Then last night, woke up three in the morning, panicked.
No reason why.
Turned to my wife, I said,
they're closing in, babe.
I need an Egg McMuffin.
You woke up and said, Al tuna.
You're tethered. I also have big thick eyebrows too.
Yeah, that's true.
I was going to say when you were talking shit about eyebrows, I was like, you've got a luscious
set.
I was in no way talking shit about eyebrows.
I love big, and you've got nice big eyebrows too.
I'm saying if I were to commit that crime, I would immediately go full Sugar Ray on my
eyebrows.
I would go early 2000s Britney Spears.
Absolutely. I realized he's Italian, obviously Italian-American.
What?
But if this were the 90s,
Peter Gallagher would have to play this guy.
Yeah, yeah.
Right.
For sure.
An icon in the eyebrow arena.
Right.
But he's Irish. He is.
But he played the dad in the OCE, the Jewish dad in the OCE,
as a man with three Irish names.
So yeah, we didn't start correcting that issue
until like seven minutes ago.
No, no.
All right.
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And this is To Be Sung to the tune of the gay anthem YMCA.
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So male and cis and straight, this song ain't gay.
If you ever believed this not gay song was gay, just ask my wife and she will say, I'm
male and cis and straight, and so forth and so on.
Courtesy of no clue on the discord in reference from,
to the guy from the village people being like,
I'm going to sue anybody who says that song,
who acknowledges that song is a gay anthem at any point.
No, no, no. My wife will sue you.
My wife will sue you.
Yeah. She's a high powered attorney in Canada. Yeah. It's a very strange,
although we aren't we in a bit of a like period where we're like a free for all. He was like
starting January 1st. I'll start soon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah you have until January, 2025 to get it in. Get it out of your system, assholes.
Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr.
Miles Gray.
Hey, it's Miles Gray, aka, deny, defend, and depose.
Fuck all healthcare CEOs.
Okay.
Shout out to the frequent news ghost for that one,
little chapel rowan with our Luigi Mangione this morning.
There it is.
It's interesting to see just the ebb and flow
of the internet be like,
ah, this guy was reading, wants to read Ayn Rand
and then like his six pack though.
Right.
Everyone's just like, doesn't know where to fucking land. This is truly- We don't know what to land. This is don't know what to do.
This is America's shared. I'm just finding out he was Italian. I thought,
Luigi, what now? I know. Anyways. Yeah. I mean, it was the very first thing we
said about the story is a lot of people can be disappointed. The way, the energy you guys are bringing to this assassin,
a lot of people are going to be very disappointed.
In my experience with assassins,
they're not always the intellectually,
ideologically rigorous and sound individuals that-
But they weren't posting thirst traps though.
They weren't posting thirst traps.
That's the difference.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know. Some of them were.
Lee Oswald could get it.
Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
a very talented zine maker and podcast host.
Yes.
One of the hosts of You Are Good,
a feelings podcast about movies.
It's Alex Steele.
Hello.
Hello.
It's a pleasure to be back.
Thanks for having me.
So wonderful having you.
Great having you.
Great having you.
On this very momentous day on the internet.
Love a big internet day.
Big internet day.
Yeah, big internet day.
How are you doing otherwise?
I'm doing okay.
I'm so excited to be here. You mentioned
You are good my feelings by cast about movies. I just launched a new show
Yeah called the OC again, which is why I know about Peter Gallagher
That's why you got gals on the brain. I got gals in the brain. He yeah
We're the OC again, which is a rewatch showwatch show that I launched with my friend Nico Stratis.
Okay.
Nice.
That's funny.
You're taking it from one up to however, whatever the last episode was?
Yeah, we talk-
Last episode backwards.
Memento style.
We talk about the...
Nico is a music critic, and so we talk about the show maybe 20% of the time, and we're
largely just talking about 2003 through 2007.
Da-da-na-na-na.
So yeah.
Da-da-na-na-na.
Yeah, you remember.
Da-da-na-na-na.
You know it.
Da-da-na-na-na.
California.
It's so good.
Right?
Best-seen song on the planet.
California.
Phantom Planet come.
On the Phantom Planet.
Exactly.
Yes.
Yes.
And then one other, I'm so sorry to plug so fast.
No, it's okay.
No, it's okay.
Get a in.
But I also, I have a small record label called Hi a Culture.
And we just released our first record by a musician named Carolyn Kendrick.
It's called Each Machine.
And if you're in LA, there's a show on the 15th in Pasadena.
That's very cool.
If I had those two things to plug, I wouldn't have even made it this long.
I would have interrupted me while I was introducing the show.
I've been waiting 41 years to release a record on the label,
so I appreciate my discipline here.
So yeah, thank you.
Well done. Awesome.
Well, Alex, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, a few of the things that we're talking about today.
The CEO assassin hunt is still ongoing.
There is just a person who's very interesting to the police for very good reasons, who has
been apprehended.
The internet has immediately been all over his digital profile.
The second wave of memes is even, it's wild.
Every bit of information launched a whole fucking barrage of memes.
Then now that we know his name,
the memes now are even an escalation on previous things.
I imagine. His name is a gift to the meme cycle.
I was going to say, I can't imagine fully respectful of Italian-American heritage.
Although Italian-Americans have a rich heritage of assassinating political leaders.
They do.
Time really is a flat circle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're going to talk about the Hock Toa rug pool.
Alleged again.
God, I got to get used to this.
We're, we're reporters here.
Yeah.
The Hawk to a, uh, the Hawk to a girl who has talked to the podcast, uh, just launched.
Yep.
Yeah.
No, feel free to laugh.
Just launched a crypto coin that was trading at a shockingly high value for like 20 minutes.
And then it cratered and people are like, wait a second.
My money. I trusted you, Hawk.
It does require a strange philosophical conversation of differentiating between,
is this an illegal scam versus I guess a non-illegal scam?
Because they're all pretty stupid, right?
All of these crypto offerings.
Yeah.
Jay-Z responding to sexual assault allegations in the character of Scrooge McDuck for some
reason.
His statement is very weird.
All of that.
Plenty more.
But first, Alex, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history?
Hmm.
What is something from my search history?
I wrote this down and then obviously immediately forgot it.
Oh, I saw, I looked up what
happened to Bob Matthews children. So Bob Matthews was the leader of the Order in the movie out called The Order right now. He's
a white supremacist who was taken down in a manhunt. And so I was like, Oh, where's I watched the whole movie and my takeaway is
where's this guy's kids? Right? I didn't find out. I have no idea.
It was a failed search.
Were they heavily involved in the story?
No, they were just children.
He had an adopted, I think, four-year-old
and a newborn baby.
And I was like, well, this has gotta be hard
for you these days.
If you know sort of this is how your family's
being noticed.
And I looked them up and I don't know where they're at.
So apparently things are fine.
Yeah, apparently they have good access to, you know.
Scrubbers.
Data scrubbers.
Yeah.
If you're listening, Bob Matthews kids,
I wanna know how you're doing.
Right.
Reach out, reach out.
Yeah, come on, don't be an asshole.
Let yourself be Googleable, we wanna know.
I do remember there was a white supremacist whose kid was very big on the podcast circuit
in the early days of the Trump administration because they were like, yeah, this stuff is
really bad and it's very developed and people have been ignoring it for years and years.
I think you're referring to the son of the person who started Stormfront.
Yes, that's right.
Who very grimly, he was on a speaking relationship with his father and very grimly when Trump
was elected, his father was like, everything we tried and were failed to do was happening
by way of this man.
And I was like, so anyway,
check out the order in the theater. I have no skin in the game, but it was compelling
enough for me to Google stuff about it. Yeah. Like how those kids do it. How are those children?
What what's something you think is underrated? Oh gosh, underrated outside time. I know we talk about touching grass.
Um, I think we're all in Los Angeles.
Uh, I'm, I'm from Maine originally.
So when friends send pictures of what's going on there, I see that it's the time
of year that being outside is extremely difficult and it makes me so grateful to
be in Southern California, but, uh, getting outside any minutes of the day to break up sort of monotony and
breathe in air generally is my very favorite. I think people should do more of it. We all
know it, but we convince ourselves that we don't need to.
Yeah. Yeah. Wait, how, as somebody who grew up in Southern California and whenever I'm
like, ah, it's hard to be outside, it's like, because it's like, oh, like 109 degrees.
Yeah, of course.
What's it like in Maine right now?
What are we talking? Oh gosh.
In Maine, it's like gray and like maybe like 25 degrees right now.
I want to know this.
You wear a jacket.
You wear a jacket.
Oh, you need to like, uh, the animal skins.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I'll try that.
I'll try that.
I do.
I do have the moments in the summers here where I'm like, this is a little bit too much,
but it is nice to, I spend an average, a much higher average outside here than I ever did
in Northern New England.
Okay, that makes sense.
Yeah, yeah. A lot of commands to go out and touch grass. Our guests on Friday's episode
were the hosts of a podcast touch grass.
Yeah.
Oh, it's a, it's, we really could, I mean, I know that it's, it's gauche to sort of be
a nostalgicist, but I do lament, I do miss the time where you could just turn the internet
off.
Like, you had to-
You mean when it wasn't there?
Where you had to like turn it on, it was like a three minute process and think about it.
Mom, are you on the phone?
Okay.
Well, I want to go on America online.
Explain this phone bill.
Yeah.
Fuck.
Yes.
20 minutes you're going to be on.
Oh, I'm going to fucking miss the flame war in the chat room.
Exactly.
Exactly.
A better time.
Yeah.
I put up a sick AIM away message though, so I should room. Exactly. Exactly. A better time. Yeah, I put up a sick A.I.M. away message though, so I should be all right.
Absolutely.
What is something you think is overrated?
Weed.
Weed?
I smoke, I ingest weed.
Like as a person, as a recreational person.
I and again, I know that this is a gauche old person thing to complain about, but I do
sometimes miss the process
of, you don't know if the weed's going to be good or bad, you just get it from a guy
or a friend and you don't have to go to an Apple-like store.
What weed has become modern weed is sad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's exactly too what all the, like grower type people I knew
were saying when like, first like legalization hit Oregon, they're like, it's over, man.
It's over.
You're going to have all this fucking Mickey Mouse fucking weed where no one gives a fuck
about the art, the act of growing it.
And it's going to be mass produced.
It's going to be bullshit.
They're going to, and then yeah, here we are, and it's going to be mass produced. It's going to be bullshit. They're going to. And then, yeah, here we are.
And it's wild to the irony of like the legalization.
It's actually like just created a boom for the black market again,
because the taxes and shit are so high.
People like, bro, I'm not paying this.
Like, I'll just go to the legal weed shop.
Yeah. Is the weed not is the weed not good?
There's some trash weed out there. There's some trash in the stores.
I mean, it's just, there's also like, it's an op- at this point there is,
I agree, like sort of like knowing what you're going to get,
unless you're like a brand adherent and have done it for like many times,
whatever, like it's hard to have any prediction, but it's also, and again,
this is such an old man complaint and I'm sorry, but I, it being silly and now it feels like an opioid. Like now sometimes I'll
take an edible and be like, all done, like it's all over.
Nobody better talk to me.
Exactly. I can't be trusted with decisions.
Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
So it's a lot of information to keep track of. Is it kind of like wine?
But like the people-
Oh God. Yeah. That's like, I've never even made that-
Also annoying.
I've never even made that connection, but yes. And because again, like, you know, every
difference you don't, you know, like it's like, at some point, you know, which movie
theater is going to carry Pepsi versus what's Pepsi versus which is going to carry Coke.
You know, like, you know, like different, the things that you like are at different
places.
I find that impossible with like weed and weed strains at all of these stores because
there's no consistency of like what is carried where.
So it's often just a crap shoot.
Like you're like, I hope for the money.
So many people go off like the THC percentages and like, because it's high, that must mean
it's good.
And like, that's not that those aren't all the ways it affects you.
Remember when that was happening with IPAs for a long time?
Yeah.
It was like, this one will cripple you.
And it's like, that's not 14%.
Yeah.
Like, I don't know, water down some fucking isopropyl alcohol.
They just put a shot of vodka in a normal IPA.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, in the response to your wife but your wife thinks you're drinking a beer
The response to that in micro brews
Eventually was was Colchis and Pilsner's got really big because people wanted like a throwback just like drinkable
Beer and I hope that happens with weed where it's just like a dirtbag bag
And I hope that happens with weed where it's just like a dirt bag bag. There is.
There's like stuff called like dad weed now.
Great.
That's just like, dude, this shit's just low, but low budget.
It's not expensive.
Thank you.
But again, the thing is the fucking taxes are so off the wall that you're paying so
much on top of it.
And that's what I'm like, I remember when someone told you a thing that you were buying
from them was 50 bucks.
It was 50 bucks. Not like, well, not with taxes you a thing that you were buying from them was 50 bucks. It was 50 bucks.
Not like, well, not with taxes, 72, whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So these, I think in LA and I know New York has such a terrible problem with the
illegal shops that have popped up because it's just, oh, in New York.
Oh yeah.
The NYPD cannot keep up with the illegal shops.
They're like, fuck.
I went into one and they were giving up shots of mezcal.
And I was like, is this legal? They're like, nothing. It doesn't matter. Yeah.
Welcome to Eric Adams is New York. But like in LA, there are places like, for example, you go and
you buy like a fancy 3.5 gram eighth of like, you know, dispensary weed. That shit's like 40 bucks
plus the taxes and things like that. The illegal shops are like, they're like, we have 10 gram, quote unquote,
eighths for like $30.
Now it's like the disparity in price couldn't be larger.
It is why.
And I think that's pushing a lot of people like, so now it's becoming like a class
thing too, like you have to like being able to go to a dispensary.
By the way.
Yeah.
But I'm saying like for this kind of weed purchase,
like before you could go to someone's house and like,
oh yeah, everybody goes to this person.
Now it's like, do you have $80 to buy three joints?
Like, no, dude.
Totally, it's wild, it's wild.
I obviously want to acknowledge,
I'm glad we're in a situation where like, you know,
people don't risk legal life and limb in order to buy weed
in most places, like et cetera, et cetera.
But, you know, who won?
Um, largely white corporatists.
Like, that's who won.
Yeah, right.
It's crazy.
It's bad.
One for them, you know, they get one.
Yeah, they get one.
They better watch out though.
People get angry.
And it's cool because when you're buying weed now, you like run into your accountant.
They're like, a guy you're dead golf's with.
Yeah.
Oh, cool.
The buttoned up dispensaries.
It is wild.
You like, there were people who walked in.
I was like, is this my boss?
They had such butt, like your manager energy that I was like, what the fuck is
this dude doing here?
I'm not going here.
Yeah, we're Q1, we're investing a lot in Indica's.
We've seen a real growth boom on those.
People love being melted, man.
They love getting melted, especially with the Trump inauguration coming.
You fuckers love getting melted, man.
Yeah.
You fuckers can't get enough of it, can you?
Anyways, we'll be back here if you need anything.
Fucking Mel Torme over here.
Let's take a break.
We'll be right back.
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Miles, over here in your closet.
Wow, God.
Just looking through your stuff.
This is a small closet.
You really made yourself small.
I don't have a walk-in.
Yeah, I've been studying under the guy from Ocean's Eleven.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Good call, good call.
Can I help you?
I was looking to see if you have any of your old tees
from like middle, high school, back when cartoon characters
wearing stuff they didn't normally wear was like iconic.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Like the Taz and Bugs Bunny one where they got the backwards crisscross outfit on. cartoon characters wearing stuff they didn't normally wear was like iconic. Oh yeah, yeah.
Like the Taz and Bugs Bunny one where they got the backwards crisscross outfit on.
Yes.
You had to have that or you were not a child.
You had to.
That's how they identified children.
They're like, that's no child.
A kid would go missing and they wouldn't be able to find them because they're just wearing
a regular shirt.
It's wearing the same shirt every kid is wearing.
I like the idea that the kid was wearing like still regular white
tea and they became invisible.
They're like, we can't see him.
Well that's where's their crisscrossed Taz and Bugs tea.
What a strange mixture that just worked so perfectly.
What was it about Taz and Bugs seeing them in the crisscross
outfits, backwards clothes for those who don't remember,
backwards jeans.
Yin and yang.
The other ones, I used to wear a lot of Bart Simpsons.
I almost said Bart Simpsons.
Bart Simpson t-shirts, obviously.
Like my dad calling Brad Pitt, Brad Pitt.
Yeah, Bart Simpsons, yeah.
I did have a Bart Simpsons shirt.
It was off-brand.
He was dunking, wearing a Michael Jordan's jersey.
A Chicago bull jersey.
Just a bull on it.
But yeah, those things are kinda, they're out there.
They're out there, you can get them all on eBay.
I found the Icarumba Bart Simpson surfing,
and get this, Miles, he's upside down,
but the words are right side up.
No. As he's surfing.
Yeah, so makes it helpful to read.
The Taz and Bugs shirt readily available.
I think I need to regress.
I think more than like watching a TV show,
I think if I put on my Taz and Bugs bunny
Put that on.
Crisscross outfit, had a bowl of cereal,
it's 92, baby.
Oh man, three bowls of cereal.
I always get the cereal Ouroboros going.
It just kind of messes me up that I'm saying something
from 32 years ago, like it's yesteryear.
Yeah.
Yeah, so for our younger listeners,
cartoon character t-shirts was what we had
instead of Nirvana t-shirts,
because Nirvana hadn't come out yet.
Exactly.
Cause yeah, I mean, whether it's a Nirvana t-shirt
from yesteryear that they're making now,
or you know, you're picking up merch
from one of your favorite bands from now,
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You can find it all.
I went to a concert, couldn't get the t-shirt
cause the line was too long,
and then went and got the Vampire Weekend concert t-shirt
that I missed out on on eBay.
But guess what? We all got a thing.
We all got one.
And it's on eBay. Maybe it's fashion, car parts, trading cards, retro movie posters,
anything you can collect. So go find the thing that keeps you up at night. Whatever you love,
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What do you also make of the sheriff of nodding or something?
Four days hence.
We have half captured the evil doer.
I don't know.
The person of interest, who's interesting because he has the gun that the crime was committed with.
And the fake ID with the same name that the assassin used while they were in New York City.
So everybody, it's the moment of truth. A lot of people were hoping that this person was going to
come through with their exact politics and their exact justification for killing this person.
So just a frantic Googling of like, what's he into?
His name is Luigi, which is fun.
What else we got?
Which is fun.
Can I read a tweet by the great labor journalist, Kim Kelly, who said,
grappling with the implications of the adjuster turning out to be a hot Italian tech Jimbrow
rat who went to Penn seems to have a pretty gnarly back injury,
retweets anti-woke nonsense, and has not read one but two books by Steve-O.
Yeah, I think a lot of people are grappling with that very thing.
Ain't that America?
Yeah. So the one thing a lot of people are kind of gravitating around is that on his good
reads list, he did read. Oh, they made it private. It's private. Oh, really? The good reads list.
Yeah. People scraped up the good parts though. But yeah, yeah. It's kind of the funny part when
something like this goes public and then
you're like, Oh shit, it's still up.
And then people were like, Oh fuck.
Um, yeah, I did notice a lot of people he was, uh, retweeting, like being like this.
And this is the best tweet that I've ever seen.
Like those tweets were gone this morning.
Whoever tweeted those originally, I don't know if they had already deleted them, but you know, if not, they were
like, maybe this not a good look for me.
Yeah.
And got rid of that.
Uh, but yeah, radicalized by, or, you know, in agreement with Ted
Kaczynski's manifesto.
Yes.
Industrial society and its future.
That's right.
Yes, industrial society and its future. That's right.
And he, he read that, uh, wrote a very long manifesto in response, like in his review
on Goodreads, and then gave it a four out of five, which four out of five, I love a solid
B plus for a manifesto.
You know what?
I trust that.
I, I for a while, what's the, what's the movie one, the movie Goodreads?
Letterboxd.
Letterboxd. I was using that and I would give every movie I saw a five, knowing that some
Gibroni was giving it a one for no reason. And I would give every movie a five to equalize it.
But I like the honesty of four out of five, because I bet that manifesto drags sometimes.
It is.
It seems that is a thing with him.
Like he was also critical of Jordan Peterson for how like convoluted his language is.
Like if he's trying to get a point across, he needs to be more succinct.
I love that.
I'm not a fan of the content, but I do love someone who can be critical of their own stupid
ideas.
The pros.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The pros of Peterson, Joe Rogan's pros leave something to be desired.
What do you think?
Do you guys, have you talked yet about the conundrum of the law enforcement moment right
now because you have a folk hero?
You're damned if you don't catch them for obvious reasons, but now what do you do with
somebody that many people have celebrated for doing something that symbolizes what they
feel like is the right thing?
Got to put them in Arkham Asylum, I think.
I think that always works out well.
I think it's woefully clear that the police, they need more resources.
This took entirely too long for them to find him.
That's my takeaway.
That's all I took from this is-
I mean, I was reading this morning's New York Times.
First of all, our CEOs need to ramp up their security, probably incorporate AI-powered
guns.
Facial recognition. incorporate AI powered guns, facial recognition, you know,
facial recognition guns, you know,
like they can lock onto a target and just like using facial
recognition technology and just vibes,
they can figure out if they need to shoot you or not.
In a way, like a cop could just put a gun straight up
in the air, fire a round off and that bullet using AI
will find its way to the proper target.
Would find its way down.
Yeah, it would do the-
Like a gun in Roger Rabbit.
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And I know that that had negative implications to Italian Americans in the 20s, but it's been
interesting watching people online be like, he's ours. Like, it's like, I knew it.
Definition, there's like another comedian,
Ashley Reese, who's black.
She tweeted, texting every Italian American friend I have
and saying, not him being one of y'all.
Um.
Um.
It's just like, again, every moment has created
some other version of wacky internet commentary, whether it's, you
know, an examination of, of crime or good
reads or whatever.
It's really like people are review bombing the
Altoona McDonald's where the person where he was
clocked and just being like, this place is full
of rats.
Don't go there.
The food sucks.
The people will snitch on.
They said, don't go here.
If you're an American hero, it's again, uh, very, I'm sure very alarming times for
the wealthiest of people, because I mean, that was the other thing.
So many of those insurance companies, they vaporized their fucking leadership
pages where you could be like, and here who are here is the C-suite of this
company and a lot of people are just like throwing and be like, here's,
here's how you use LinkedIn to find all of this.
Yeah.
Like if you can buy a silencer, um, you can, you can Google a CEO.
Or you can, yeah, you can look it up on LinkedIn.
The internet knows the internet.
His Twitter follows interesting though, too.
It's like the notable ones, RFK Jr.
Hell yeah.
AOC.
King.
Joe Rogan.
Yes.
Steve-O.
Yeah.
Phil Jackson, one of the greatest NBA coaches.
He likes leadership.
Phil Jackson always finds his way in there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think Phil Jackson is kind of has like mass appeal.
You know what I mean?
Oh, yeah, either way.
It's like either you're just like really rigid about like leadership and success.
You're like, I'm going to I'm going to drink from the well of Phil Jackson's wisdom.
Or you're just like, I don't know, Phil Jackson kind of seemed like a hippie.
And he was vibing with that's how he kind of got the best out of his teams,
like from not being just understanding the human aspect of of of of a team.
But yeah, he's he's got a lot
and some really interesting thoughts on Japanese culture.
This, it's very, again.
That one is, that was not great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was like, if Japan wants to get out of their demographic,
like there, here's the thing.
He doesn't care a lot about the population
and people not having kids. That's one thing you see a lot about.
Is it a specific kind of people he's worried about not having kids?
No, no, no.
Population concern is often.
Yeah, it's probably like, again, you use that to open the conversation and then be like,
you know, more white people should probably be having kids.
But yeah, he has a few thoughts on it.
Like he said, Japan is having a population contraction
because there's too many fleshlights.
Yeah.
That wasn't his only point, Miles.
He said, it's cultural.
His first point is like, ban all the fleshlights.
I'm like, you're describing inanimate objects,
but you're saying this is a deeper cultural issue.
Can you tell me, like, whatever.
Ban the fleshlights. objects, but you're saying this is a deeper cultural issue. Can you tell me like whatever? Um,
all right.
Yeah, I was on board until now.
That's I am a one issue voter.
I was okay with being critical of Japanese culture generally, but once he said,
bam, the flashlights, I'm ours.
They came for the fleshlights and I was immediately like, hell no.
Yeah, it stops here.
That's why we live in a utopia.
Because I didn't say nothing.
I spoke up.
There is a, I work in and around folks in, or in and around is such a weird way to put
what I'm about to say.
I work around with folks in porn.
And we just had a sort of a big fundraiser a couple of months ago for sex workers in
LA and Las Vegas. And what was really fascinating, and especially to raise awareness about Project
2025. And what was so fascinating was to hear all of these internet, like maybe right wing,
maybe they don't even know that they're right wing internet commentator men who blame every everything in one way or
another on porn. Which, in sex toys and sort of like this, these forms of sort of like commercial
sexual liberation. And it's just extraordinarily revealing how many people could essentially,
you know, sort of like conspiracy theory, red yarn board, everything back to
porn in one way or another. So anyway, I'm sorry that this gentleman is on that train,
but I guess we're going to learn a whole bunch of ideologically bonkers things about him
pretty soon.
And I'm wondering, like, you know, like in terms of like preserving the status quo, they
probably need to come out with like the grossest profile
of this person to try and give America the ick to be like, oh, we don't like this guy.
He's fucking gross. And I know maybe you thought it was cool to do that, but he's freaking
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because yeah, I feel like there's already there are
reports of like other CEOs beginning to get threats and like the I'm sure the copycat
thing is becoming a huge concern for, for people.
So I can,
but as we covered like right away, where didn't the CEO who got killed, like,
wasn't he dealing with threats all the time?
Yeah.
I think they deal with threats all the time.
Yeah.
Our New York Times was like, due to the nature of their work.
Yeah.
What nature is that? Was there an infographic that we could look at after?
I believe, no, but let's put it, this adage works.
Haters gonna hate.
That's right.
Thank you.
Let's put it that way.
I am curious to see what happens with copycat related stuff only because what this person did was coordinated
and seemingly very, very well planned in a way that I don't know how easy it is.
I mean, very unfortunately, the reason why you see so many lone wolf attacks on public
places or indiscriminate shooting is it requires no planning.
So I'm interested to see if anything actually comes up this with, uh, with copycat
folks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a, it's a wild time.
We will see.
And like, what happens if once he has a platform, because he will be, be able to give comments
and things like that, like where that goes.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
This is it's early doors.
This could be like, yeah, it's Joker.
He's this guy's a Joker fella.
Yeah. This guy's a Joker fella. Yeah
This guy's a Joker fella
What are you a Joker fella? I mean they gave
Rolling Stone gave the cover to like sexy
Marathon bomber guy like it you just
Years and they were like this guy is fucking low-key hot
like two years after he did a very unpopular crime that, you know, and they were still like bad boy generation rebellion or something.
I forget like how they framed it exactly, but this person already has people
horned up and lusting after them.
So, uh, we'll be interesting To see where it goes from here,
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The talk that we talked to her coin did not go to the moon as I had admonished my financial advisor. It would.
Put everything I've got, take it out of index funds, put it all in Hawkcoin.
She got something.
Yeah.
Hawkcoin. Yeah. So I guess I vaguely knew that this stuff was happening. Like I think I remember when Kim Kardashian got in trouble,
got fined for over a million dollars for recommending a coin to her followers.
And then it was maybe not fully on the up and up.
I think I remember there was some conversation around Iggy Azalea having a,
having a big crypto coin.
I mean, just the, if you just think of the celebrities, right. Biggie Azalea having a big crypto coin.
I mean, if you just think of the celebrities, right? Who have been involved with this kind of shit,
like there's fucking, you know, Manny Pacquiao,
DJ Khaled, Mayweather, Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton,
TI, Soulja Boy, Gwyneth Paltrow, Kevin Hart, Paul Pierce.
There's a certain point where like, clearly these people get to them. They're like, yo, here's a way to make some pretty easy money.
Yeah.
And it's, it's a scam.
It's a sure.
I mean, in a way, but it's also, I think the way these people, they kind of
rationalize like, well, it's an investment and there's inherently risk involved.
So people know what they're going into.
I'm not promising people that they're going to get wealthy.
I mean, I kind of am.
I'm implying that they could.
But that's how I go to sleep at night.
Yeah.
Cut to the post basically implying that very thing.
Right.
Yeah.
There's a tweet by MaddoxRules that was, hello, I'm calling about a potential investment scam.
No, it was voluntary.
There's a girl who was interviewed for a web show
who said you need to spit on a penis and it went viral.
Anyway, she started a podcast and made a crypto coin
I thought was a sound investment.
Oh God, yeah, yeah.
And in fact, it was.
Yeah, I don't know.
That's where it gets questionable.
It's like how, when you explain what it actually is, right?
Like for there to be like some sort of graft, there has to be like, I was claiming it was this thing,
but in reality it was this other thing.
And what the, I was claiming it was this thing still sounds so stupid that I have a hard time being,
like telling the difference between like what is being
between the pump and the dump. I guess the main thing is that they are saying I'm in this for the
long haul and then selling it. Is that kind of what? Yeah. Yeah. They always like this is like a
project. They always go like this. This is a serious crypto project. This isn't a fucking meme
coin. like we're
actually trying to start something different,
revolutionary. And then you get all this interest, all the
people, presumably the people that are behind the coin,
they're the ones that buy up a ton, it sends the lineup. And
then people who are like, Oh, shit, this look out, look at
the value increasing, maybe I should get it on the Hawk to a
train. They then these people buy coins
and then inevitably they fucking get the rug pulled out from under them when the people
who are running the scam sell off all their shit to make all their money and then leave
everybody else, you know, holding the bag. So,
I can't believe that this is how I'm going to get to like point back to some other thing
that I'm doing. But I talked about doing an OC rewatch show.
Yeah.
And Ben McKenzie, who plays Ryan in that show, is the head guy,
has used his fame in the past handful of years to write a book called
Easy Money Cryptocurrency Casino Capitalism in the Golden Age of Fraud,
and has used again, sort of his position for the past handful of years,
to call this out of being like shell game fraud.
To be a fucking narc.
Yeah.
Okay?
To be a narc who is fucking up my bag, bro.
He's got to listen to Ryan.
He's peddling FUD, bro.
It's all FUD, bro.
Fear, uncertainty, doubt.
Don't listen to that shit.
That's right.
That's right.
Hold on for dear life, bro, because we're going to the fucking moon. We're going to the
lunar landscapes that were promised to you. But yeah, hop
to a thing that so as wild like afterwards, everyone was so
pissed. They tried to do some damage control. And it just went
so wrong in this Twitter spaces. There's this guy coffeezilla
who regularly like does sort of like these investigations into
like crypto scams, just generally all kinds of other rug pulls and things.
And he got on there and just fucking laid into them.
They had to like mute him.
They're like, okay, this guy's talking too much truth.
And she was like, guys, I'm tired.
I'm going to go to bed.
I'll talk to you tomorrow.
And then just like left this whole thing when everyone's asking for answers.
And it's still just a, yeah, it's a, it's a disaster, but it's really
odd to me that people still are falling
for these. Like it happens over and over and over again. There's not one fucking celebrity coin
that has that to this day. Yeah, bro. I'm so glad I got into fucking whatever.
Yeah. Is there one that's doing like super well? Like is there one, is there one by like whatever, you know,
like my dinner with Andre coin?
That's just-
Iggy Azalea did one that was more of like a slow motion rug.
Like it just looks like it just fell apart.
A lot of people were like, this is bullshit.
But like, I guess to her credit,
doesn't look as bad as some of the others,
like hockey stick graphs when you see just like
how they completely fall off a cliff.
But again, it's always done because you just use this, you use the
celebrity to draw in people to give you a couple bucks and then just take it.
And then be like, well, it's just, it's inherently a risk.
So the question seems to be whether she and the people who are like kind of
involved on her end have sold shares.
The company that was involved that kind of created the project, I love calling it a project,
it's some serious thing.
You're talking like them now, dude.
I know.
That whether they had sold off a bunch of the shares before it cratered, they kept it up
for 20 minutes long enough to sell off the shares like before it cratered. Like they like kept it up for 20 minutes long enough to sell off the shares.
And then it cratered because the company is claiming like she and the other
people involved like haven't sold a single share.
Yeah.
So they're broke too.
That's the claim.
That is the claim on their end.
So like it, it seems like a fairly straightforward, like we'll find
out if that's true or not. Like it seems like a fairly straight forward, like we'll find out if
that's true or not, like it seems like a wild lie to tell, to just be like, we
haven't sold anything, we own it all.
But you know, these financial products are so, you know, the legally complex,
uh, and easy to like hide behind.
Yeah.
I think, I mean, there's definitely people, I mean, because it's, it's all
in the blockchain.
A lot of people are like all the, a lot of the wallets that they're seeing, like
that we're selling off, we're being like tied to the people that were behind this.
So there is a bit of a paper trail.
I mean, again, it's, this is, this is what's interesting because we're about to
enter a Trump administration where crypto has gone all in on taking away every guardrail in terms of shit like this.
Yeah. So I don't know if she's just kind of like, yeah, try and get me motherfuckers.
This guy's about to get inaugurated on January 20th.
If you can get your shit together by then, maybe.
I don't know. So that's that's the part where I'm a little bit like as many people like like, she might be, you know, somebody, she might be talking to a judge soon.
I'm not totally convinced because this is sort of like the momentum is going in the
direction of normalizing cryptocurrency and making these scams, probably something where
people have no legal recourse.
Yeah.
The Iggy Azalea thing is interesting because she, I guess, didn't sell everything
off, she's just like in it for the long haul and like still like doing all these
like big parties and like attempts to like get people interested in it.
It's like, no, she just made a genuinely shitty financial product and is losing money on it.
Yeah.
That's hard.
Yeah.
It's hard.
Sorry.
Oh, it's hard. It. It's hard. Sorry.
It's hard.
It is hard.
Like I said, Iggy stick to rapping, stick to what you're great at.
You're always saying that.
I am.
I am.
Iggy, please stick to rapping.
Who wrote the one good one for her?
Was it the game?
There was, so there are, there are allegations that somebody was writing for her.
I was like that is
So mean to that rapper
Yeah, yeah, I remember she was always coming around with TI he was kind of putting her on I think that's it
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that's probably what it was cuz everyone's like what the fuck
Why are you giving this Australian person all this credit? Why is she talking like that? Yeah
All right.
Jay-Z has been accused,
keeping it in the world of greatest rappers of all time.
Jay-Z has been accused of drugging and sexually assaulting
a 13-year-old girl at a post-VMAs house party in the year 2000.
The suit was originally filed in October against Diddy, but now it
has been refiled to list Mr. Carter as a defendant.
And then Jay-Z responded by firing off a statement through his entertainment company's Twitter
account that literally begins with him accusing the Jane Doe and her lawyer of trying to blackmail him. And then it ends telling
them that they won't get one red penny in a very like Scrooge McDuffie coded like, yeah,
statement that I don't know. I don't know. We don't know.
Is it? I don't know what's real anymore online. And the only thing I've seen about this was
someone highlighting the Instagram story about this was someone highlighting
the Instagram story about this in which Beyonce's mother liked it. Is that true? Do we know
if that's true? Do you know? Oh, I know. If Beyonce's mom liked this Instagram story?
Because I don't know. I see stuff now and I'm like, I don't know what's real anymore.
We cannot verify that at this time. You can't, you don't know. You don't have that in your
head, Jack. We don't know what Beyonce's mom's doing right now.
Our team is looking into it, Alex.
Thank you, thank you.
You guys need that guy that Joe Rogan has, who fact checks him and proves that he's wrong 90% of the time.
Yeah.
Jamie, what's Tina Knowles up to?
Tina Knowles to?
Nah, all right, I was wrong about that.
I was wrong about that. My bad. All right.
So I guess, so I guess Joe Biden wasn't AI during the state of the union.
I got some bad info.
No dude, but people saw his wristwatch and you could actually tell that his
wristwatch, it was a different time.
Very good.
So, all right.
Well, they got me.
Fine.
They got me.
That, I mean that, that defense does not not look that does not look good at all.
Like to immediately come out and be like, they're blackmailing me
and then uses some fucking like old timey prospector language.
Like, what the fuck is that?
We won't get one red penny out of me.
I swear you sound like a villain, Sean Carter.
And I don't know, like when you look at just the people he's around,
I'm like, Jay Z, bro, you did an album with R.
Kelly. Okay.
Not guilty.
Y'all did a song, guilty until proven innocent.
Yeah.
And I'm like, oh boy, this is, this is very, very, very, uh,
it wasn't one diddy party that he was alleged to have attended.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
You can look into when he and Beyonce started dating.
There's no, you know, I don't think there's been definitive evidence of any wrongdoing
there, but there are some allegations looking into it.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, that, again, the defense of going straight after this person doesn't look good.
No.
Yeah.
It does seem to be, Forbes was saying that it's part of the PR strategy that they always
do.
There's a word for that.
There's no nonsense denial attacking the ambulance chaser lawyer, and then shifting
the narrative to turn himself into the victim.
Yeah.
I mean, and it worked.
We've seen this work for people like Kevin Spacey and oh wait, that doesn't seem to work.
But I don't know.
Maybe it's like the Democratic strategists who it
takes you a couple decades of repeatedly failing over and over to be like, oh, this doesn't
work. You know?
Oh, Darvo is the name, the word that I was looking for.
Darvo?
Yeah. I'm sorry. Let me look up the acronym.
Sounds like a human villain.
So I don't screw it up, but this is a very popular. So, yeah, Darvo is is a reaction that perpetrators of wrongdoing, such as
sexual offenders, may display in response.
It means deny, attack, reverse victim and offender.
Oh, that's exactly right. Exactly.
God damn. That's a yeah.
There are a lot of states that actually Darvo.
There are a lot of states that actually- A triple axel darvo. There are a lot of states that actually, not a lot, but there are some states that I
believe that have like Darvo protections because like often what people will do is
they'll counter sue.
Yeah.
And so, yeah, that was the word I was looking for.
Thanks for bearing with me.
I do have the brain of a 41 year old weed smoker.
Oh, nice.
No, I have the brain of a 44 year old non weed smoker and it is broken.
Worse than yours.
It's really bad.
Good.
Need to start smoking weed.
Uh, don't do it.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't worry. Don't go down my path. I have a lot of clarity about my substance use. If there's one thing that's not a good idea.
Nah, probably not a good idea.
I don't need to send more questions
hurtling through my brain
that I can't answer immediately about my existence.
All right, Alex Steed, what a pleasure having you
on the show as always.
Always a delight.
Thank you.
Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?
I'm more on blue sky these days, even though I talked all about Twitter and stuff, Alex
Steed, and I have this podcast, You Are Good, a feelings podcast about movies.
I have the OC again, which is an OC and early aughts revisitation show.
And then there is this record label,
Hi, a Culture, where we just released a record by Carolyn Kendrick called Each Machine. And if
you are in Pasadena, there's a show on December 15th at Healing Force of the Universe Records.
Oh, that's great.
Healing Force of the Universe, yeah.
That place is rad. If you guys don't know it, as record stores go, it opened a year ago and
they have events almost every night now and it's all, every
night you're in for a treat.
So check them out.
They're really great.
Oh, but very quickly, I went to Pasadena to go see that movie the other day and I saw
this kid band called Degeneration.
They were like 15 through 21 playing Nirvana and Foo Fighters songs in front of the H&M.
Oh, wow.
And they, shout out to Degeneration. They ripped so hard.
Ripped. That's amazing.
There was a girl in a keytar. I think she was like 15. It was hilarious. Not hilarious in a funny way,
but it was like hilarious that it was happening at the H&M. I loved it so much.
At the H&M. Yeah. A band that rips so hard. You see them in front of an H&M and you're like,
yeah, absolutely. I thought you were going to compliment H&M.
That's who I would have given the compliment to.
And I just have to shout out H&M, each of the great tasting young talent.
I like a little spandex in my clothes and I like them to fall apart three wears in.
That's right.
Exactly.
Oh wow.
But that, that hock to a button up you got looks fantastic.
That one lasts for 20 minutes before it just craters
falls apart. It's a rug pull of a shirt. You go out in the sun and you're naked.
Alex, is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?
Yeah, I saw the movie The Order twice in a row. I saw it two days in a row. I saw it on Saturday and then I saw it on
Sunday. I loved it so much. Police Procedural starring Jude Law in which they try to take down
white supremacist group in the 1980s. And that group was influenced by the Turner Diaries,
the text that went on to later inspire in part January 6th. So-
And Timothy McVeigh. And Timothy McVeigh, of course.
So deeply important, but also highly entertaining as movies like that go.
It's like heat if the bad guys were white supremacists that you wanted to see burn in a building.
Oh, wow.
All right.
That sounds good.
And that's in theaters.
It's in theaters.
Mark Maron was in it for three minutes as Allen Berg, who was a Jewish DJ who was assassinated,
unfortunately, by this group.
I was in Pasadena, which is like Mark Maron territory,
and every cluster of people had one person who
whispered to the rest of the cluster,
that's Mark Maron.
So anyway, it was great.
Miles, where can people find you?
Is there a work in media you've been enjoying?
Uh, yeah, there's, uh, at miles of gray everywhere.
Just look for me there.
Uh, and, and, and blue sky even, uh, you can also find Jack and I on the basketball
podcast miles and Jack, I'm not sure.
Boosties.
You can find my God, the fucking Lakers are so fucking bad.
I can't even fucking handle it it's fuck
darlin ham now had a better record than jj at this point oh what happened um anyway uh and then also
catch me talking about 90 day fiance on 420 day fiance uh a tweet i like is from Jess Dweck at the Dweck tweeted, this means there's a Waluigi mangy on the works in private equity.
And that's, again, the internet.
The internet, it's got to be freaking out billionaires.
They're like, it's all jokes about us being here.
No one is upset.
OK. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, so Amazon and Blackrock just
posted like head of security positions job openings. Yeah, yeah job openings
for like leading a team of heavily armed robots. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Let's see a
tweet. I've been enjoying one dozen rats in a pear tree at Panasonic,
DX4, 5,000, 4,500 tweeted,
Seinfeld episode where George has the same jacket as the guy who
shot the CEO and vaguely alludes to being him to pick up women.
That's amazing.
The one tweet that really struck me while I was out and about
yesterday shopping and seeing all the Christmas stuff was this.
I'm so sorry for the screen name.
Milky White Tits tweeted.
I've quoted Milky White Tits before.
Giddy up, Jingle Horse, pick up your feet sounds like something a homophobic gym teacher would say.
Yeah, I have that too, but I feel like I heard that tweet like last, I hear that tweet every year and I didn't know.
It's truly perfect.
It's whoever came up with it originally I want to know.
I would never accuse Milky White's hits of stealing.
Not with a name like that.
They must be right.
But that is absolutely, that line continues to amaze me.
It really is something that your gym teacher would yell at you while you're doing laps.
Anyways, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien and on BlueSky at Jack
OB the number one.
There's also somebody on there, Jack OB Juan pretending to be me.
So that's fun.
Tweeting, writing a lot more than I do.
So hopefully I don't do anything terrible.
You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
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We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes
and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. We also link off to all that stuff in the show notes.
Miles? Yes? Hey, Miles? Hey, Miles, is there a song you think people might enjoy?
Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes.
And an accompanying video, uh, the Ezra Collective.
They are a really fantastic like new jazz group from the UK.
Uh, if you like Tom Mish or like Youssef Deyes, those guys, you're definitely gonna like,
they're fucking fantastic.
Uh, this is a track called N 29 to Berlin. And this is the colors
show version. I typically see I love the color show. It's a
great YouTube channel, you can see really good live
performances. This one is fantastic. I mean, the album
version is cool, too. But watching it with the video is
really awesome. So N 29 to Berlin by Ezra collective.
All right, well, we will link off to that in the footnotes.
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