The Daily Zeitgeist - CBS: Let’s Do WORSE, Fash Kink Rethink 01.30.26

Episode Date: January 30, 2026

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I need to go to Turkey for some medical tourism. Yeah. Oh, you're about to be on that plane with the hair plug dude? I always say this all the time. I'm like, I'm waiting for the, I'm waiting every, I'm always getting Google alerts. My stepmother always sends me baldness, like updates and shit like that. The best one I saw was there's like a Chinese lab experiment. This is so crazy where there were these mice that they got the fur to grow back just out of nowhere.

And they're like, y'all, this is the closest we've ever. seen to something that wasn't an implant. And I'm like, I'm ready. You ready. Now, do mice suffer from male pattern baldness? Jack, that's not relevant. What I did see was there was a Mac, there was a mouse with a bunch of hair missing on its back. And then in the after photo, a bunch of hair.

Wow. I mean, they shaved him for that. Yeah. Oh, I can't wait, man. I could shave a part back into my forehead like right here. Oh, he's like, wow. Like it was fucking 92. Shit.

The hair, the hair plane in Turkey is the, for men is like the women thing for like, you know, like the butt implants, you know, the Brazilian. Brazil.

Yeah. So, yeah. What's the turkey for, for the BBL? Like, what's that location? The hair,

I don't know the, the location in Turkey. I just know it's. Oh, but, oh, they're also going to Turkey for the BBL. No,

I was just saying the whole like that journey. Oh, yeah, have the turkey. Yeah, the turkey. And do women go to Brazil? Yeah, or the Dominican Republic or something. Yeah, the Dominican, I think, yeah.

Everyone on the plane. And if you're popping, you go to Dr. Miami. Yeah, you go to Miami. Yeah, you go to Miami. If you're popping, it's Dr. Miami for your surgery, as a two-chain said it. And if you're not popping, you just go see a lady with a silicone pump. Yeah, exactly. And fix a flat.

Yeah. And hope you don't get necrotizing fasciitis. Yeah, yeah. That's right. Or the stink that they ever. That's the worst thing. Yeah. The BBL stink?

Take care of yourselves, guys. Please. Care yourself. Please. You spent way too little money on that to be... Spent way too little money on that to be careless with your aftercare. What if the hair plugs start stinking? Oh, you probably look like how...

What's his face? The guy from Tobias looked like in Arrested Development when his hair plant started killing him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They would just invent another product because men would still buy it. It'd be like scalp deodorant or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just keep it pushing. Yeah.

Yeah, they call them stink plugs. Yeah, because you can plug up the stink from your hair. Got to get that hair from somewhere, you know? Somewhere, yeah, exactly. Coming from some stinky parts. This is an I-Heart podcast, Guaranteed Human. Hey, it's Joel and Matt from HowTo Money. if your New Year's resolution is to finally get your finances in shape.

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and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, it's Miles Gray, okay, one, two, three, Copsie donuts at two sharply, E-E. Come to break a lot

and you should stop. Don't keep donuts from the cops. Why, oh. Okay, shout-up to Snarkila for that one. Love a Black Star reference for all my washed, raucous records fans out there. I was just trying to... I think I was just telling producer Justin,

I'm like, you don't remember Reflection Eternal, the Talib Kuali album that he did with high tech? And yes, I'm washed. But again, that motherfucking album is a classic. So thank you, Snarfila for that one. And yeah, thank you for that one. Help me feel. Was that in reference to something we were talking about?

Do cops eat donuts? Is that an official newspray? Yesterday, I feel like when Moe, something came up about the cops needing donuts. And that's an evergreen topic. You know? Yeah, yeah. They do. Yeah.

Got to keep them donut it up. Nutt those cops up. Miles were thrilled to be joined in our third seat by an award-winning audio producer and storyteller, known for work on shows like BuzzFeed's Thirst Aid Kit, good words with Kirk Franklin. Her new podcast is a blend of memoir, do you want a repertage, and sound art called the secret

life of TK.K. Dutez, which makes sense because she is TK. Dutte. Yer. Yer. Have you seen there's a clip recently of a white comedian doing crowd work and with like a black audience and they started doing

there were urine and he goes, guys, look at me. You know I've never heard that sound in my life. and I'm not sure what to do. I was frankly scared. I'm glad somebody said something. He was kind of like, I'm going to be real. I've never heard that before.

I don't know how everybody knew how to you're at the same time. He handled that. He headed a welcome. Yeah. How are you, TK? I'm good. I'm happy to be here. I'm ready to like do whatever this is.

Yeah. That's a great way of saying. We're still not sure. That's about as specific as we could get. We have our 2000s episode coming up. and we're still calling it whatever this is. I love it. Whatever you want to call it.

We don't like to put labels on it, TK. Yeah. Podcast feels restrictive. Podcast fuck boys. We don't want to put labels on it. Now I know what this is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That defines it pretty specifically for me.

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All right, TK. thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about the new plan at CBS News. They've recognized that things have not been going very well so far in the new conservative relaunch of CBS News. and Barry Weiss has come through with her plan to salvage the dumpster fire. And, man, it's about what you would expect, but, like, there are levels to this shit that I did not know about in terms of, like, some of the people they're bringing on.

Oh, the stupidity? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about the fact that even the fascism kink community has decided to abolish ICE, subreddit. are fucking fascists. This is a subreddit for people who are sexually attracted to fascism

but like not actual fascists themselves. Rule number one, no fascists. Role play. Yeah, it's role play. Yeah, it's role play. It's about making porn or making fun of authoritarian's, real fascists, sexist, homophobes, transphobes, and other bigots are not welcome here. So we're going to get a look at

apparently there had been people who were getting horny for ice role play and they have instituted a new rule on that. And then we're going to talk, of course, about the real breaking news. The role of sea monsters in the climate events that we've been seeing.

A lot of people aren't up on this. If you haven't just been, if you are not a internet poisoned lunatic, but our writer, Jaham, went and took a dive into the world of sea monster conspiracy theories. All of that, plenty

more. But first, TK, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Yo, okay, I thought about this. And then I was like, why am I thinking about this? I've been on miniaturist TikTok lately. Oh, you know, tiny things. Yeah. Just any kind of tiny things, dollhouses, like, yo, so then I've been on miniatures, TikTok, watching people make dollhouses, little scenes, um, sides of building. and go into, I found a miniatures, like a market, yo. Like, in Mexico City, there's a market for everything. So if you can think it, there's a Mercado for it.

And I found the miniatures market. So, like, dull parts, like, you can get just feet. You just want a little dog feet? Hold on. Yeah, actually, no, I've been looking for something like that. Yeah. We have the same search history. Yeah.

Doll feet. I knew you're good people, TK. Disembodies doll feet. Just has to let you know where to go, fam. I got. Doll feet, nobody. Look at this doll. Oh, little Nike box?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, are there shoes? We're looking at the cutest little Nike shoebox. Wow. What are the, oh, those are like Yeezy boosts, like early Yeezy 350s? I guess so. Yeah. And they had some like, you know, legit looking, you know, right, right, right.

I want to put these on the doll that I model after my friend. And he wears sneakers like this. So I got a whole new hobby coming up. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, hobby loading now, tiny people and tiny things. I saw just from like looking at some of your social media posts, like you, I saw something you doing like an upholstery class and you trying to get like work with your hands. Does this all kind of fit into sort of like your, this is how I combat burnout.

Let me get into craft kind of thing. Yeah, absolutely. Because I figured out, yo, if you're not, you know, everything converges into the laptop for a lot of us, right? Yeah. And a lot of the crazy stuff that was happening. was coming through the laptop. Sure. At the time of like, when it really hit for me was around COVID.

So we were in the house with the laptop, which is the thing that's like on fire. Your window to hell. Your window to hell. And then outside. I'm sitting in front of this window to hell for eight hours a day. I should be all right. I should be all right after this. Yeah.

I figure if you do something with your hands, you can't touch the laptop. So I force myself to like get my hands dirty doing projects. Then I wouldn't touch my phone in my laptop. Oh, that's a good call. Very great. Straightforward logic, yeah. Yeah, man. I've done the opposite, and I've changed it so I can be at my laptop while mimicking

the act of walking outdoors. I have a treadmill at my laptop. Oh, my God. I'm just like, I need to always be at my laptop. And I feel like I'm in hell when I'm doing it. Yeah. But it does get the blood pumping, you know? Yeah.

That's what, what is your ultimate, like, when you're thinking of, about miniatures? Are you picturing like building out a whole scene? Is it just the individual dolls? What excites you about miniatures? Because I do find them intriguing. Yeah, I think it's an extension of me trying to, I think we're millennials. I mean, I don't know. I'm going to ask y'all business. Yeah. No, no. I'm 41. Yeah, so here we are. So we're the Sims generation, yo. like I've been playing the Sims. And I wanted to take the Sims out of and into real life. So like I knew it was like destiny because last year on my birthday, I was on Facebook

marketplace where I be at a lot. And this lady was like, does anybody want a dollhouse if you come get it right now? And it was like on my birthday. And I was like, well, then I think I got a free dollhouse for my birthday. So the universe giving you a birthday present. Yeah. So now I have to do the hobby. So I'm going to like redo the dollhouse and I'm putting myself and my people in it.

And when I'm like manifest wealth, like I got like a tiny stack of cash from the Mercado. Like let me show you real quick. So like is your dog going to be on the money phone? It can. Oh, wow. Yeah. Okay. So you're popping bands.

And you know, a little liquor. Whoa. It was like a Remy Martin bottle or something. Yeah. And I got, you know, you got to have a pet. Got a little cat here. Oh, wow. Okay.

So you're. Oh. And then I dropped it. There you go, but you're manifesting. What is something you think is underrated? Saying no. Saying no. Yeah, it's underrated because people act like they want to do stuff.

Like, they're like, let's go to a thing. And they like, you feel cornered a little bit. And I'm like, why do you feel cornered? You could just say no. Right. And if you don't want to do it, like, yo, I always say if it's not a hell, yeah, it's a no. Like, if I don't feel it in my spirit, if it doesn't light my whole, my ass on fire, then I don't want to do it.

And I mean, and that also comes from learning the hard lesson, right? Because if you do stuff that you don't want to do, if you go to a job that you hate or if you, you know, go help your friend move when you didn't want to, then you feel like a resentful sucker that was like, you know, you don't want to be carrying your friend's belongings into their home and drop it hard because you really don't want to be there. You know, you just drop shit like, oh.

So passive, aggressive. Yeah. Oh, this shit, wow. All right. No, I really want to help. to go, how about here? Yeah. Yeah.

Those are dishes? Yeah. Yeah. It's not a hell yet. It's a no. I'm like, I'm definitely, I'm a people pleaser. So I've definitely had a lot of half-assed yeses. But once I really started going to therapy, I knocked that shit off fully because then I was

like, right, right, right. Actually articulates your needs. That's the big thing. If you can't be out in front with your needs, like in telling people, describing them, then yeah, you're going to end up. doing a lot of shit where you're there. Like, because man,

there's so many times I've gone to things and like, what's wrong? You're not having fun? I'm like, no. Oh my gosh.

I shouldn't have even fucking come, actually. What the fuck am I doing here? I free tell them my needs. This is very dangerous advice for me because everything for me is a hell no. And then I have to make myself do things.

And when I do them, I'm usually happy. So this is my question to you. I'm very bad at seeing how things are going to actually. Like, my predictions are very, very pessimistic and bad always. So I just have to sometimes make myself do stuff.

And usually I'm happy that I did it. For you, is your internal, hell yeah, pretty accurate? Like, you're like, when I have a hell yeah on my heart,

that's actually going to end up being fun. And when it's not a hell yeah, it's actually something that I'm going to regret doing. Yeah, it's pretty accurate because I can like, you know, you could just see like who all is going to be there. Yeah.

You know, and like the energy and, like, sometimes it's like a combination, like the activity and who's, I'm not going. I'm not doing it. But like if it's like the balance of, well, I think I might like white water rafting, but I might not like it with these two people over here. I'm going to pick. I'm going to be like, yes, because I've never been whitewater rafting. And then I'm going to be like, well, experience. And then I'll just stay away from those people. I try to balance it. Sure.

That's great. That's admirable. This is probably the number one challenge in my life is like what to say yes and no too. And like I will often just like go to my wife and be like this is I don't I shouldn't go to this. Like I don't need to go to this. I'm baby. Mom? Mom? Mom? I don't like I don't like art classes. Right. Mom? No, baby. You don't. You don't. Play with your Legos. Play with your Legos. Pick the activity, Jack. It's just the yeah, social anxiety has fucked up my hell yeah, hell yeah, hell no. detector. And so everything is like, well, I don't want to do that. I'm going to feel terrible about myself the whole time. Fuck that. Yeah. Then it ends up sometimes being worth it. So it's, it's a mess out there. What is something that you think is overrated? All right, here we go. Now's my time to shine. Journaling. Journaling. Journaling. What am I going to tell myself that I already don't, I like,

I already know. I know it's up here, babe. And then what? How do you title that? Like, you start that You know, so back in the day, we had Dear Diary. I'm in my 40s. Right. This girl is like on TikTok and she was reading her journals from her teenage years. And she was like, dear Daddy God. I was like, hell not like. Daddy God.

I'm good. I was like, what am I going to tell myself? I don't already know it. I'm the shit. And I'm at old. Sometimes I'm having a terrible day. Oh, drink. Like what?

Again, very terrible advice for me. Very dangerous advice for me. me. That's funny. I mean, like, it's, I know people who are into it because they say, like, it helps them, like, really process their day and things like that. And I, I, to me, I'm the, I look at it the same way. I'm like, I don't know. I was there. Yeah. That day. I remember. The one thing I've seen that was interesting was like, my mother-in-law kept a journal for the first year of my wife's life. And when we were about to have our kids, she's like, I want you to check this out. And that was like a really nice thing of like kind of seeing like the evolution from the perspective of them.

But then there's some wild shit and it's like, I'm fucking up bad. And you're like, okay. Fair, fair. Transparent. And we like that. And we like that. But yeah, I feel like for posterity, I get it. But I'm not a journal person.

That'd be better if she just didn't mention her once in the journal. Yeah. It's just what I was going through. I was really this BG's album at the time. Right. Right. Right. If with a reason, I'm down, but like, there's usually not a reason.

Like a therapist would be like, journal your feelings. I'm like, I'm feeling them son. This shit sucks. Yeah, I remember I'm here right now telling you. I'm in it. I'm in it. Oh. Yeah, I think having like, if you're going to do like writing work for self-improvement,

it helps like have direction and, you know, like questions you're answering rather than just putting your thoughts down. broadly because yeah like yeah I feel like I because I have like done a way in college I had this writing class where they made you do the artist's way do you guys know what that is oh my god yeah where you have to write three pages free hand every morning first thing getting out a bit and he would just make us turn the pages in and he'd be like I'm not going to read them I don't know if that's true or not but oh so you're just doing like straight up stream of consciousness writing for three pages three pages and the idea is that like it'll get you like just moving creatively. Oh, I see. I think it was like made for people who are creatively stuck and but it was just like he was like I've taught this class to

a bunch of people. They always end up creatively stuck. These are some tools that seem to be helpful for them. And it was useful at that time. But then like years later, I picked it back up and I was like, yeah, none of this is like, like all I remember the good. good ideas I have. Right, right, right. Like, those stick with me. And, like, so all of that is just, like, blah. Right.

Not that much going on there. Yeah. I mean, I guess the first thing in the morning. I get the thing of, like, turning the idea spigot on because you want to get as many of the bunk ideas out before maybe, like, the good ones come out. Because I think a lot of people don't even turn this spigot on for fear of that the first ideas that come out will be bad. And it's like, no, no, no.

Let it all flow. Because there's something in there. But you got to get everything else out of the pipe first. But yeah, I mean, like, I just had an interview with Stiles P from the Locks. I think he was on 7 p.m. or Brooklyn, the Kid Mero Mello Show. And he's like, when I have a mental block, I watch insect fight videos. And I was like, yep. He's like, I'm not on this other thing.

He's like, I need to see something different, like, just to break me out. And then he started rattling. He's like, have you seen the Hornets versus the fucking bees? It's like crazy. But, hey, everyone has a different method. Yeah. And they're not all winners. I've seen my notes app.

Oh, man. Yeah. The notes app is, whof. It's where all of it goes to die. Yeah. Yeah. I never go back to look.

So many things that like bummed me out too where I were like, you know how you'd be like, oh, I got to write this one down. And then you go back, like you forget about it. You go back like six months later. You're like, what the fuck?

What did that even mean? What are you saying right now? No. I don't even have the context for that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, some great underrated, overrated, it's TK.

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And how am I pronouncing her name? Bari Weiss. Barry Weiss? I don't know. I've always said bar. It's spelled in a a way where you go, oh, you're trying to be cute with that name. It sounds like you're spelling it like you don't want me to say Barry.

Right. I guess that's how I sort of perceive it. Yeah, yeah. So I'll just go with barry. Barri. But hey, Barry, look, Barry, whatever. Miss Weiss, the destroyer of CBS News. Yeah.

So she took over CBS News after having had a unsuccessful blog, those subsidized by billionaire right-wing philanthropist. Don't forget her university, too. And a college that doesn't teach people shit. That was for nothing. Then how to get more calcified in their bullshit beliefs. So she's taken over CBS News. We've talked about how the CBS Evening News with Dopily, what's his name?

Tony DeCople. DeCopal? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tony DeCople. Yeah, the man who came at Tana Hissy Coates in that interview. The man who came at Tanaughey Coates and they were like, this guy should be the new Walter Cronkite. Right. That's all you need to know.

And he came through and was like, Walter Cronkite ain't got shit on me. I'm the man. And then proceeded to like his very first broadcast, like almost burst into tears because he fucked it up so bad. He was like, are we talking about? Who we talking about? Was this the Mark Kelly story?

We're not, things are going well. Things are going well. First day, not good. First day at this show that's been on for decades. Yeah. I think they, I think Loki, they hate you.

the control room. I think they fucking hate you. Let's be real, Tony. But anyways, she's prepared to change things up and fight fire with more flaming garbage. She just had an all-hands call with the staffers and laid out a bold new plan for saving the newly mageleaning network. If they stick to their current strategy, they're toast. She also said that CBS News isn't producing a product that enough people want and not enough people

trust us. Seems like a problem. I'm with her so far. Yeah. Okay. You've diagnosed the problem. Clearly, the real problem here is streaming. She said that the way they need to shift to a streaming mentality is going to save them because that's where the audience is, which is wild that she's just coming to this realization at a time when, like, this was, this was the meeting that when I worked at ABC News in 2002, 2003, this was the conversation

that people were having. We need to break out of the paradigm. People are on the internet. We need to go there. People are watching less shit. Like, we need to be prepared. That the old people of CB,

you know, the CBS watchers would like live like vampires. They'll stay like 75 forever. And I'm like, well, they're, like they're supposedly, we're supposed to graduate. into them, but we're not graduating into them because we value journalism.

What? Yeah. And we witnessed the change. You're like, I don't want that. She's like, the problem is, it's wild that she's saying, the problem is we've changed for the worse. And that's going to affect things. So if we keep doing that, it's bad. Not enough people want.

Nobody trusts us. And the way that we get past that is streaming, which I will say she shouldn't be too hard on herself because the 60 minutes segment that. She banned. She censored because it lacked the Trump administration's argument on the prisons they were deporting people to that were, you know, where people were being in El Salvador. Yeah. And El Salvador. That actually did really well on streaming after it was accidentally uploaded by a Canadian broadcaster.

Yeah. That one did really well. I didn't even know about it until like I hit TikTok and I was like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Which is wild that they go, this thing that we were suppressing. that was news did really well, and it's because of streaming. Yes.

Not because you're reporting the fucking atrocities at Seacot. It's a one thing that we're not doing. A brief bit of reporting like squeaked through your no news sensors did well. And she's like, stream. Dude, shit's popping on YouTube, actually. Fuck on this other shit. It's really fucking. It's so, that whole meeting was really stupid to.

because she also, at that meeting, told staffers at the CBS Evening News, quote, you've been offered a, quote, extraordinary chance to leave. She was saying she was trying to fucking present this like severance like, hey, if you don't like it, you can get out of here, but we'll also give you more. Apparently that the severance package was, quote, an enhancement over what would normally get, a journalist would get as part of Paramount Standard severance plan for employees. and just really just said, hey, this extraordinary chance is available to anyone if you want to leave, too. So that's also very-

Exciting new opportunities and not being here. Yeah, right. Yeah. So she's also doing it. It's just classic corporate media bullshit. Yep. We want CBS News to be like a media startup is her thing about the oldest. Oh, okay.

A brand that's been around since the 1920s. So are you going to embrace like a diverse set of opinions and actually, report from multiple perspectives. Is that what we mean by that? Yeah, we are. A new set of opinions to you, not to me. They're bringing on 18 new commentators, like, basically like Fox News. They're just trying to be Fox News and will be cutting staff that doesn't, a lot, whose beliefs don't align with her vision. And some of these new hires, man, I did not know about these guys. They include, Nile Ferguson, Patrick McGee, Dr. Mark Hyman, the latter being the wellness guru, who's good friends with RFK Jr.

And has claimed that he is pro-vaccine safety. Oh, do you know what else he is for being a doctor? He is a germ theory skeptic. Also, what? He doesn't fucking believe in germ theory. He doesn't wash. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

Heard. Mm-hmm. And doesn't believe in. germ theory. I mean, that is a thing you can only be in this era where like, and be a doctor somehow. Actually, he's driven. Yeah, where it's just like, what, what's the most provocative thing that I could say that is going to get people's eyeballs on this with complete disregard for the truth? Yeah. I'm sorry, he caused himself a germ theory denialist. It's actually how he's been described. He moved through the skeptic phase.

Yeah. When he saw, when he saw the numbers that his germ theory skeptic videos did. He moved right into germ theory denialism. Yeah, yep. It's like, that's not enough. Yeah, exactly. I got to go harder at this germ theory. Yeah, this thing that absolutely changed medicine for the better. Actually, I think it's good to have all these germs inside you in unsanitary ways.

Yeah. I mean, it is the main thing that it helped was women childbirth. That was like one of the first things that it was people were like, I guess we shouldn't walk right from shoveling horse shit into. performing childbirth and C-sections and suddenly everybody stopped, you know, one in two years

and stopped dying in childbirth. I mean, so I could see how somebody in this, with this worldview, would be skeptical of that idea. Everything he stands for is like, I don't care if people die prematurely. It's like, you don't,

because his vaccine skepticism is just, like, you know, he was writing the preface for an RFK book, like, where he was just talking about vaccines. Like, this guy is just, just one of these people is like, I don't know. I think suffering's cool or something. Maybe, I don't know.

Makes you stronger. Right. He's perfect for CBS, actually. Right. Yeah, exactly. And what exactly they want to do. They want to have someone who has the title doctor to go on there. Maybe who's someone who's watching uncritically goes, well, this doctor said that actually measles is tight.

Yeah, yeah. So. I mean, we should have seen it coming because Dr. Phil and these other. Dr. Oz. Weirdos. Yeah. Yeah.

Dr. Phil is my personal physician, so I can't talk too much shit. Oh, patient doctor confidentiality? Yeah, exactly. That's why your social anxiety is so hot. He's got a lot of interesting things to say about the journal entries that I sent him. Now, hold on, Jack. Now, hold on. You didn't want to go to this birthday party?

Why not? I didn't think I'd know what to do with my hands, Doctor. Phil. Well, I stood in the corner. Oh, Jesus. All right. Nile Ferguson, though, this guy had eluded me. So he's a conservative, British historian and political commentator who made headlines in 2018 when he had to resign from a Stanford University free speech program after leaked emails exposed his plot to get Republican students to conduct opposition research on a left-leaning student. The fuck is he's a oppo for? And then what? Right? Like, were they going to docks him? Like, what was it?

Well, his emails, it's really the tone. It's really in the tone of these emails. They're just, like, laughably, like, movie villain coded. He, at one point, instructed his minions. Now we turn to the more subtle game of grinding them down on the committee. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance. Oh, my God. Asking them to unite against the social justice warriors

and urging them to bury whatever. past differences they may have for the common good. And now we turn to the more subtle game of grinding them down. The student he was talking to was, by the way, the son of Susan Rice, a former national security advisor to Barack Obama. He was the president of Stanford College Republicans at the time. And he responded to that email saying, slowly, we will continue to crush the left's will to resist as they will crack under pressure. What? Interesting. Yes, master.

Yes, master. Indeed, we will. This is the son of the national security person from Barack Obama's son? Yeah. That person was included on an email. This professor was also emailing John Rice Cameron, who's her son.

No, Rice Cameron's response was slowly, we will continue to crush the left's will to resist. That's why I don't have kids, because you don't know how they're going to come out. Just acting like that. Any national security, I'm just saying. Like, I don't, even if it's under Obama, I feel like national security might. Also, you might be like, we treat people well.

But if you're for a living, like ordering drone targeting of wedding parties, then maybe. There might be a little gray area on who's a human and who's not for sure. Also, that Stanford Free Speech Program is the most frightening collection. of words I've ever heard because you know that's just like Silicon Valley all like autocrat Stanford is captured Stanford has been captured they're cranking out the hits man yeah but more recently he's been writing for the free press Barry Weiss's free press debuting with a genocidal rant that urged the Biden administration to invade Gaza he also offered political insights like comparing the 2024 election to Barbenheimer so he's like a serious thinker

that is going to save CBS news. Wait, what? It's a, Barbenheimer? The Barbenheimer election, while Kamala Harris runs a campaign of unsurpassed vacuousness. On the other screen,

we have the dark, fissile energy of Donald Trump. Okay. By Nile Ferguson. Get out of here, fucking Nile. Anyways. We'll see what happens, man.

I mean, look, I think, Barry, you've got a, you're, you've diagnosed, the problem, but have completely arrived at the most incorrect conclusion possible, which is

so funny. Nobody trusts us, and therefore we need to double down on streaming by putting the most untrustworthy voices everywhere on our platform. Yeah. Yeah. Well, again, she wasn't put in there to be effective in terms of making CBS like a good thing. She was just there

to like completely muddy the waters in terms of what people are ingesting what they call quote unquote news and having the name like CBS. It helps. It helps. Just generally, it seems like their problem might be the unpopularity of their message, because, okay, they're eating shit when they tried to put it on like a major news network, on a major, just like one of the major networks.

Nobody wants to watch that shit. And then in a more, slightly more niche community, even the fascism kink community is not a fan. Yes, the R fucking fascist subreddit has announced that they will no longer allow content or roleplay featuring ICE, leaving users stunned that ICE is even too evil for the fascist kink community. Wow. Yeah. It's even on the subreddit drama page because the moderator contends with the reality that their kink sub might be problematic. Oh, really? Really.

This is the post. This is interesting. He said this is from one of the moderates. Hello, everyone. This is Brandy. Back again for some reflection. This post isn't coming from me in my capacity as moderator, but as a user and doesn't reflect any official stance of the mod team, but merely my own. I've been stewing lately in the aftermath of the shooting of Renee Good and now of Alex Pretty. I've been acutely aware of beyond troubling trends here in this subreddit. First, when we put the community on pause after receiving a wave of input from users that we ought to update our policies, the amount of hostility that I and the moderators received for merely trying to respect the wishes of you, our users was appalling. And this goes on, apparently, this was like a whole back and forth. That's just a weird, I mean, what an, like, already, that's such an odd kink to have when you're like, I want you to dress up like Heinrich Himmler and just blow my back out right now. Like, what the fuck? Like, don't be that way in real life.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Exactly. What's your fantasy to be fucked just, oh my God, just crazy, every which way by Heinrich Himmler. Just like, I want my legs shaking. Of the SS. you to wear this SS armband. Yeah.

The pink community is kind of wild because like, like, okay, we're grownups. I've been in some areas where it's like, yo, you know, radical consent, right? Like, we're not, there's no, and there's no bullshit here, you know, everybody's welcome. All bodies are good bodies. We love that. And then you go on like the message boards because I'm not going to those other parties in real life. And they're like, yeah, like exactly what you said.

like weird race play crazy like medical fet shit like so it's like is this them meeting in the middle like hey i want to be weird but like you can't really be weird yeah and i think there's you know some people who have like shit tied you know sexual shit tied to like taboos and like maybe this is the ultimate taboo for them for white people yeah yeah like it's not a good time for that shit like yeah yeah well it's interesting it seems like the time is not good and the fact that some of them are like immediately moving to wanting to fuck ice agents is might reflect poorly on your community because they they banned it yeah well so they're what happens is that this is they go on quote if the community has tipped past the point of

catering to liberals exclusively to primarily right wingers Nazis and Nazi apologists right wingers then it's got to fucking go if any of this post is upset or scared you the reader you're probably part of the problem for the rest of you who are actual liberal rule is just trying to express your fantasies safely. I apologize. I don't mean to deprive anyone of a safe space, but to give you the behind the scenes perspective, this place isn't safe.

I honestly think if you get any modicum of pleasure of like this fucking thing, you got to zoom out a little bit. Yeah, it's time for, figure something out. Time to do or something. Self-examine. How way to make yourself a victim because like, yo, like you said, like the zoom out,

it's a microcosm of the world we live in. which is like very white and very privileged and very like all the things that, you know, this is, this is, they're representing it. Like, so we need to have the safe spaces. We need to like protect our fetish Reddit community. Yeah. Like I knew we got, we have a place for liberals to explore this problematic kink. I think it's like, it also is revealing that it's like, this is for liberals.

Right. Somebody made that shit up. It's right. In a safe place. But like, and they're surprised when it's overrun by actual Nazis. Well, yeah.

And it's like, well, I can help you out with that. It lacks that awareness, right? That I think is endemic of like what the problem is a lot of like liberal white voters. Like I see this all the time with people going, it's like Nazi Germany.

Oh, no. No, it's like America. It's like Jim Crow. It's like Jim Crow. Actually. It's like American history.

Well, no, but I mean like to the point where it's like the, like the, like the. But, you know, the Nazis, we talk about the Nazis were studying Jim Crow. Jim Crow laws to be like, okay, this is how you fucking subjugate people and create second-class citizens and keep them out of your fucking society. Hitler learned from Henry Ford.

Right. Car guy. Like, like, how racist do you have to be to be a car guy that's more racist than the guy that's like racist, racist, racist? Yeah, who's putting the protocols. It's not that Henry Ford had a picture of Hitler next to his desk. Hitler had a picture of Henry Ford next to his death. Like that's how bad it was. But I think like even just our, the American, American culture's inability to say Jim Crow and everyone go, God, that was so fucked up.

Yeah. See, because it doesn't have the same weight because we're still in this place where the atrocities committed to black people, especially. Just it doesn't occupy the same part of the brain. You have to go to Nazi Germany where they go, oh, white people. Right. that was wild. That was wild. I can wrap my head around that. I can't get, I can't experience the requisite outrage to look at something that was so specific to our history and be like, that can never happen. I think that's the thing that I'm really worried about our inability to

really move forward because we still have this huge blind spot to our own history and being able to reckon with that. So I don't know, it's like hard to be like, and we're going to solve it now because X, Y, and Z. I'm like, I don't know. I've been struggling. Like, I've been struggling. Like, I feel like we as a nation, not us on this call, but like where we, where we kind of slipped up as a nation is, you know, when they were showing, when you go to the museums and the pictures of like the Little Rock Nine going into the school and these like, you know, white women and like old, grown up people spitting at children. And I'm like, they're still alive probably or something like there's no, like, you didn't go find them. There's people who have seen lynchings

that are still alive. still alive and they're just like chilling. Like that's the blind spot. Right. Like, and we let that shit go and we let that shit go. And here we are. Yeah. Now. Muffocas are taking your neighbors away.

Yeah. And now you have a subredit being like, damn, is it fucked up for us to dress as overseers and having sex? What the fuck? Yeah. Yeah. What the fuck? Yes. It was, it was interesting.

We were talking about how the Trump administration's plan to, like, bring ice to the Winter Olympics in Italy. Yeah. And we were looking at a story from within Italy about a deportation campaign that they were doing inside the country. And in Italy, they were like, this is like the Italian Guantanamo. Right. So like in America, we have to try and refer to the Nazis to like other it to be like,

these people are like the Gestapo. This is like Nazi Germany. And everywhere else in the world. world, they're like, no, we don't need to go that far back. This is like America. This is like, this is, you know, they can see it clearly. They say Gestapo. Oh, I thought these are slave catcher patrols. Right. Oh. Say that. Nobody was about that. But this was like ice. Right. Yeah. What the fuck. I thought this was a normal Tuesday in America. What? Right. And, but ice is really losing, losing the crowd at Reddit, uh, anti-ice,

ice messaging is reportedly all over Reddit right now. Yeah. In a non-political, subreddits like our cross stitch, our cat bongos, which is all about playful drumming on cats, and our massive cock, which now contains posts such as how hard I get when I think about abolishing ice. Very why they're to the party. Exactly. Oh, bad. So many.

I mean, there's a, I think Wired wrote an article, too, about how the Minnesota subreddit went from like stuff about the timber wolves and the Viking. and like hot dish recipes to one of the like organizing like a focal point for Minnesotans to like to organize and obviously that's where the first instance of the Alex Predy video was posted also and I'm sure they're probably they're like fuck man we just spent all that money on TikTok so we got to get Reddit too now even harder because you know Reddit does I mean they're definitely there's open playing whackamol they're open to fuckery but yeah they're You got to ban our massive cock.

Yeah. The Trump administration is taking control of the subreddit our massive cock. Oh my God. Oh, my God. I wonder if the Minnesota subreddit is, like, if anybody is like also being like, A real quick, did you guys hear, Janus might, like a Janus trade might be. Oh, in between? Because the Timberwolves are in, like, in the talks.

They're one of the teams that people say it could happen. No, it's pretty much. completely shifted to like a community-centric subreddit. For that one, our Timberwolves. Our Timberwolves. All right. There you go. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about Sea Monsters. We'll be right back. New Year, new goals. And in this economy, a better money plan is more necessary than ever.

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Yeah. In the 10th straight Trump administration. Yeah. What, uh, what, what are they going to be talking about? At that point, it's going to be as like formaldehyde brain in a jar with like a wig on it. And they're like, yes, Mr. President. Just like, holding the microphone to it.

And then someone's in the back speaking for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Barron. Mm-hmm. But, uh, you know, the, the weather has been in the news lately in the U.S. Because much of the country's been hammered by winter storms. They were especially bad. thanks to the effects of climate change,

or depending on who you're listening to, a giant sea monster. I'm sorry, wait, a sea monster. A giant sea monster. It's just so funny when it's like, they're like anything but tell, like, you know, so many people were out of power from the storms. Let's not talk about the grid or utility companies or those things.

Nope. I like somebody's like fucking see. Like, hold on, Jack. So what's, now let me know what's going on with the sea monsters. So there's a viral conspiracy theory. a.k.a. future science class claiming that the storm was secretly faked in order to distract the public

from the real-life Leviathan. I love when it's just a distraction. They just throw, like, it doesn't have anything to do with it, really. But they're saying that a blob in the ocean on Google Earth is really the fearsome sea monster referenced in the Hebrew Bible.

And like some of them are a joke, but then, you know, probably not being taken as a joke by some people. Others, it's much less clear. They're just pointing at like the continental shelf and be like, oh yeah, how do you explain this? Yeah. That's just where the, that's a land mass underwater is what that is.

Land underwater? The land's over here. The land is the green part. This is ocean. It looks like underwater Florida. Right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's the Leviathan coming for all of our asses. It says, oh my God, the Leviathan is waking up near Virginia. This is why they are creating a fake snowstorm and manipulating the weather so they can freeze it because the military base is in the area. Oh, my God, everybody. Well, wait a second. Now, that does make sense. There are military bases in the area. I hadn't seen that piece of evidence.

Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay. This shit sounds like some shit that my baby brother would come up to me with a phone and be like, Look at this shit, yo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at this is AI. Look, it's on Google Maps. Everybody has that person in their life, and we're just trying to prepare you guys for what you're going to have to be talking to them about. This has become something of a trend in 2024.

Online conspiracy theorists similarly claimed that Hurricane Burrell was actually caused by the movements of a Leviathan. In reality, the hurricane was fueled by exceptionally warm ocean temperatures, which were directly attractive. contributed to climate change or the movements of a Leviathan. Yeah, what though? Sturred shit up, I guess. They just saw the world. But like, isn't there someone who's at least doing some junk science as to like, okay, so, okay, let me meet you where you're at.

So the Leviathan moved. Now connect that to a wind, to a polar vortex or whatever. I'm just, okay, can we go there? Spinning, spinning, vortex. Oh, this is how you're doing it? Spinning. Okay. Levithin, moving the ocean around. I don't know how hurricanes work, but I can look at that motion.

You're telling me a Leviathan didn't create that? Guys, put a snake in a rubber made container with some water in it. Okay, now when that snake moves, a snowstorm will appear above. Now, extrapolate that 700,000 times the size. And now you have a polar vortex. Okay. Thank you. I'm not going to lie. I don't swim and not because I'm black that I don't swim.

I just don't swim because I, in my mind, I'm not going to lie. If it's like not a pool, like it's like a lake or an ocean, I do make up a leviathan in my mind. Yeah, it's a leviathan. It's like my paranoia. Well, like I, you know, my, my thought process are. We don't know what the fuck's down. So, yeah. I don't know.

I hate an unlit pool at night. I mean, I don't know why. I think it's because I just. I grew up in the era of Jaws and, like, other weird shit. There's, like, also scenes from, like, Star Wars or in the trash compactor and that little thing's fucking grabbing them and shit. Yeah, pulling them down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think all that combined to be like, I need to see the bottom.

Yeah. The ocean is too vast. The ocean's got wild shit in there. Like, it really shows. That's part of why we got here. That's part of why this Leviathan shit is moving. Like, you can, you don't need to make up conspiracy theories. You just, like, look at what fishing trawlers, like, pull in.

and there'll just be like something that looks like a little potato bug, but it's like six feet tall. And it's like, oh, we just pulled this off the bottom of the ocean. Didn't know that was down there. Real shit exists. Yeah, yeah. TikTok videos were selectively editing a clip in which a Fox News weather guy seemingly compared Hurricane Burrell to a dragon.

And that's enough. I mean, this is so, we're just such in that post-truth era where, like, if there's a TikTok, video said with enough conviction or that really uncharismatic AI narration voice people use, it's like maybe. Because even with like the new footage of Alex Preti's

interaction or the altercation with ICE like from 11 days before he got killed, there's a lot of people like liberals who are like, this is AI, this is fake, this is not real or whatever, he's wearing the same thing. It's like some people just have one winter coat. That might be why.

And you're like, come on. And I think some people, I think a lot of those people, are responding to like the MAGA presentation of that video where they go and see I told you this guy is a fucking terrorist or whatever and people rather than just arriving at things like this altercation changes nothing about the context in which he was murdered just so you know so okay and it just sounds like he was standing on business 11 days before he got killed too so right hmm hmm yeah and I think that's where a lot of people were like no this is AI you can tell like no no jack Like, he's wearing the exact same thing.

You can't kick a light off of a thing so easily. And it's like, look, guys. Like, it's, dude, he could have kicked that car so hard it exploded. If I know anything about how cars worked from 1970s and 80s movies. Yeah, right, right, right. He could have kicked that car so hard. Cars explode just from a little fender bender. Yeah.

Every action movie taught me that. Yeah, yeah. But I know what he was up to. This is crazy. But, yeah, I think it's just going to get worse and worse because there's already, like, I see on Reddit, too, is this AI or AI very, like, there's so many subredits where people post stuff and be like, is this AI? I'm not sure anymore. My mom's claiming this is real or whatever. And like, you have, like, you have thousands of people now, like, trying to vet content to be like,

nope, this isn't it and like trying to show people. But this is another layer of media literacy, you know? Have you ever gotten an email from your friend? Like, yo, before all this started happening and stuff like like the AI videos got crazy. I got a message from a friend and it was her face and it was her voice and it was like, oh, TK, oh my God, thanks, yo, like, thanks for like responding. Like, can you send me like some money? And I was just like, in my mind, I was like, we don't even know each other like that. And I just had five cents and I texted her.

And I was like, are you on Facebook right now? Right now. And she was like, no, like I'm at work. And I was like, somebody stole your face, yo. Somebody stole your face and your voice. But this was like 10. years ago. So we weren't even thinking on this level. Right. So now we're really in trouble. Yeah. Because they're even saying like,

you'll get these calls, like a scam call where no one talks just to get you to start talking so they can clone your voice. Yeah. And then. I get those like three times a day. And I'm always like, what do you need me to say? The quick brown fox. You're like, hold on. Hello, it is me. Jack O'Brien. Now this is. Yeah. Or they want you to say yes to some fake question, you know. Yeah. They got to be accessing podcast files, right? There's so many hours of people talking. Yeah. We have episode 2000 coming up.

I know. Damn. I've got a lot of people going to get a call from me. Just know I would never call you, ever, ever, ever. So don't worry, it's not me. And that goes for you, Mom. Yeah. Oh, I'll be speaking Japanese to her.

She knows. She would know. She would know. Yeah. Our writer, J.M. pointed out that this is not a new phenomenon of blaming monsters for natural disasters. People have pointed out that the Loch Ness is on a fault zone. And so people think that the original Loch Ness monster myth got started because of

faults. It like lit little earthquakes. And people are, damn, the monster moving over there. Oh, wow, wow. And then a lot of early dragon myths started around places that have methane deposits that cause mysterious fires. And so, like, there would be like a explosion of fire in the woods, and they'd be like, damn. Yeah.

That damn dragon. It was just some kid playing with matches and shit. What happened? That damn dragon, mom? What the fuck? We better get King George to do something about this. Yeah, it's just wild that we're not much further than we were in the era of King George. We've been primed up mentally for, like, ancient mythology.

to like cross over to like meet AI at some point to meet the internet and like, you know, and it could be as innocuous as like, oh, you know, when a thunderstorm is happening, God is dog bowling, God is bowling or fucking Zeus is throwing fucking lightning bolts. And I'm like, we've been like primed for like this kind of storytelling. And now we've got to an age where like we can make pictures and videos look like the thing. So it was just a matter of time, y'all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, luckily, though, it's one of those things, too, where I do see generationally, like, thank God, most younger people are so skeptical.

They're like, no, no, no, no, no, no. But that's not everyone. That is certainly not the people who watch CNN or CBS, you know, or CNN or any of that shit. Man, CNN has gotten real wild. They've gotten real, I don't know. I don't see anything here. Yeah. I'm just saying, we got to keep an eye on those people. Are any of the channels on the ground in Minnesota? Like, are any of the... MS now's been on the ground? Yeah, some people do, like, you know,

when they were probably trying to get as much, like, dynamic footage as possible, meaning like they want to show... Run it over and over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. But then they're like, damn, all these people are real kind to each other. Huh, what the fuck? Can't do nothing with that.

Well, we can't talk about the Epstein files. So, what else? What else? What else? Oh, you hear about these basketball players that were rigging games? Huh? I'm like, what the fuck? Okay, seems bad.

Yeah. TK., such a pleasure having you, as always, on the daily site. Yes, thanks for having me, y'all. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Find me all over social media, but my best one or my favorite one is Instagram at TastyKish. And Tastycichie.com is the website. The Secret Life of TK. Dutest is the podcast.

and I'll just be out here. I just be out here. Yeah. Amazing. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Yes. Okay. I love a good, I love a good telenovela,

but it also has to be like steeped in history, and it has to have mad episodes. So on Netflix, right now, I've been watching this show called Defying Destiny. That's the English name. And it's a show about a former, she was a former domestic worker, but she's like been through match in her life,

It takes place in Columbia and like, actually it looks old, but it's like the 1990s. But like, you know, the guerrilla, like army came and like shot her sister. It was crazy, man. Anyway, she basically became a union worker and is like protecting the rights of domestic workers. But like the thing spans from age 16 to present. So it's 67 episodes or something like that. And every day I'm watching like five episodes. of time. So that's what I'm watching right now. Like I'm locked in. Like I'm on her third baby with her,

you know, and her friend just got killed. That'd be like helping the community. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds good. Oh, yeah. I love that shit. So defying destiny, y'all. And the lady, the woman's name is Maria Roa, if y'all are interested in like learning about the real person. There you go. Miles, where can people find you as their working media? You've been enjoying. Yeah. Find me everywhere at Miles of Gray, you can catch me talking about 90-day fiancé on 420-day fiancé. And if you want to catch me talking about the English Premier League and my favorite club Arsenal specifically, that's on the new show, Ain't It Footy, with me, Jamel Johnson and Chris Martin. A couple things I like. One,

just this little bit of news came in that the Senate fails to advance spending package after Democrats refuse to back DHS funding. Hey. Okay, so look at you guys. Look at you guys. Look at you doing a little bit. Now, let's do a little bit more. Let's do a little bit more. Chuck Schumer. Come on now. Come on down.

And also, this, we've been talking a lot about the Melania screenings. And they're just like, people are just posting, like, the AMC app and just showing how many seats are available and all like the showings. This one is from Albuquerque. And this is from at stateendors. Endors.com. It's social. It just shows, like, the map of the movie.

But in the very extreme back left corner, there's like two seats. It's taken. And then they posted, they're doing hand stuff at the Melania screening. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck you're doing way back there. But, okay, go, go off. That's amazing. We should, we got to go to a screening and just sit in the front row and turn around and look at the people. I'll theater hop.

You know what I mean? You know, I'll go to another movie and then I'll just go on there, just peek in. The fuck are you all doing in here? Okay, nobody's here. Great, great. I've been enjoying works with me. I just, like, people showing the footage of, like, the isolated footage of the guy from, who attacked Ilhan Omar, like, when he's just sitting in the crowd.

Oh, yeah. Future Adam Curtis B-roll said Tim Heidecker character, which he really does look like. It looks like another guy said looking like an alien from men in black. He really has Edgar, Edgar vibes. Skin is hanging off your bones, Edgar. Edgar, your face is hanging off your skull. Is this better? You can find me on Twitter,

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you will find the foot no. Which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song you think that people might enjoy? Yeah, yeah, just some upbeat music. Same group again. Yesterday we went out on the track from the Lijadu Sisters. We're doing it again.

The Nigerian sisters who are putting out albums in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and again. This track is called Bobby, though. And this one has more of like a reggae rocker feel to it, as opposed to the other stuff that's a kind of afro-beady. This one is dope. It's called Bobby, and it's by the Li Jadu Sisters, L-I-J-A-D-U. All right, we will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zike is a production of I-HartRadio for more podcasts from I-HartRadio Visit.

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