The Daily Zeitgeist - CELSIUS® ASTRO ZEIT™ 8/4: Sydney Sweeney, Trump, Jobs Report, Charlamagne Tha God, High Noon, CELSIUS® ASTRO VIBE™

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

In this edition of CELSIUS® ASTRO ZEIT™, Jack and special guest co-host Andrew Ti discuss their respective weekends, Sydney Sweeney getting dragged for being republican?, Trump vs. Economics, Trump vs. Charlamagne Tha God, High Noon's "CELSIUS® ASTRO VIBE™ Energy Drink Sparkling Blue Razz Edition with a silver top" recall and much more! WATCH: Coyotes on a Trampoline: Watch the Action! | TikTok Funny moment huge bear attempts to take a nap in a hammock | SWNSSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

So how about that cold open, huh? Oh, fuck. We need a cold open, huh? Let's see. Complaining about technology, not so good. That's not appealing. Did anyone else? This was going to be my underrated, but I'll figure something else out, unless this is just bad what I'm about to say.

I got 25 pounds of hatch chilies on Saturday. I went to a Gelson's and La Cagnada at 8 a.m. Would you ask you if anybody else did that? Anyone else? So, wait, your underrated was going to be hatch chilies. My underrated was going to be waking up way too early to get 25 pounds of peppers and then inadvertently pepper spraying myself and my dog by carrying around. It was actually 50 pounds.

I picked up 25 pounds for a friend. Why do you need so many chilies? I don't, obviously. It's just hatched chili season. It's chilly season. Hatch chili season, baby. It's like Andrew's equivalent of Game 7. It's a little hard to explain, but basically I bought a box of hatch chili's,

you know, a full fucking farmer's box or whatever. And 25 pounds divvied up amongst three people. They roast them in the parking lot. and then I turned into like a little little Walter White with gloves and like my like kitchen scale portioning out like bagging up chilies for my for my connect um or from my fucking clients and then you inadvertently like had a like the equivalent of a meth den explosion well no that was on the way back like basically I had 50 pounds of chilies to roll the windows down and chilies went everywhere. But no, I

like left them in the trunk and I went and got breakfast and left my dog in there and she came back and was just like sneezing like a motherfucker because in retrospect, it makes sense. And it was only like two minutes. She's fine. But which ones are the hatch

chilies? I'm like not a food person. So like are they the ones responsible for hot sauce? Uh, no. It's a lot of, it's like a region I think New Mexico. It's in Hatch, New Mexico. Yeah, and they're just like sort of,

there's a short season, the harvest season is like August, basically, and I think they're sort of expanding a New Mexican cultural thing. I think in New Mexico, every grocery store has a guy or maybe four guys, always guys, it seems like,

who have like a big drum roaster that looks like the kind of thing that you pull like the power ball out of, The roaster is made of mesh. It's like a big mesh cylinder, and it's just turning over a fire with chilies in it. And they just kind of like roast them and... Oh, kind of like what you would like do nuts in or something. Yeah, exactly.

Like chestnuts roasting on an open fire. Yeah, but it's like sort of like, you know, four mega dudes. They have a real magadud vibe. They're probably fine, but maybe not. So their company is called four mega dudes. Four mega dudes. Roasted up chilies. Four mega dudes, buy mega dudes.

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You kidding. politics is wild and I'm definitely not here to payment but I'm here to make sense of it just what's happening why it matters and what it means for us bring your brain listen to now you know with noida barossa on the iHeart radio app Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast hello the internet and welcome to this week trend edition of Dirtya Lee's Ikeyes yeah yeah As production by Heart Radio's podcast, we take a deep dive into America's Share Consciousness. And this is the episode where we tell you what was trending over the weekend.

My name is Jack O'Brien. And over there, sitting in for Mr. Miles Gray is the wonderful, one of our favorite guests, one of our favorite co-hosts. It's Andrew T. What's up? From the OZEFRAZs of the podcast and TV. I'm so fucked up, man. I've just like chileed out, as everyone heard.

My life is just in shambles right now. So fucked up on a Monday morning. Must be the chilies. Andrew, it's great to, great to have you back. You, of course, put the T and TV as a TV writer-producer. Do I? It's a, I don't know, man. I am coming off of a red eye.

I'm on two hours of sleep. Oh, dude. I'm down to shore, came to my parents' place in down to shore. That's right. It's not all working up top. So I just realized I recognized Jack's summer, summer recording set up. Right, right. Yeah.

This is, yeah, you're, yeah, everyone's, everyone's on the summer break. Everyone's on a little, what are we at like 18% capacity? I'll explain why I'm on low sleep. It's those damn hatch chilies. It's not the damn hatch chilies. I had I had com quats at midnight and then I couldn't sleep till 2 a.m. Wait, really? Is this guy, does this tie into your underrated?

No. This is, this is just, this is just in my brain. I have a new, new Andrew weakness unlocked. Midnight snack cum quats, apparently just. Those are going to keep you up because they're so damn tart. I did not realize, yeah, the astringency. just, just messed me up. Anyway, we're fucking doing great.

We're flying over here. You took a red eye, Jack? You took a red eye voluntarily? I did. I had, like, there were, like, children's, uh, things that, like, they needed to be at, you know, my kids. And so we, and then I needed to be here for this recording. And so we did a red eye. And it was airlines, uh, I don't know, maybe bleep that out, um, where the

seats don't move backwards at all. Like, not at all. Like, don't, not even, it's 90 degrees in the, like, both, both temperature, but also like the angle of the seat is just straight up and down. Yeah. You're like, you're like needing to sleep. You need to sleep like a marine, like right before getting dropped. You're supposed to just be like. Yeah. I was, I was assembling and disassembling a gun in my sleep as I was sitting there. You got to stay sharp. Um, but yeah, I had, put entirely too much trust in a neck pillow that I had read works and neck pillows. Maybe I'll get into that in my overrated because I don't really haven't overrated. But this is, of course, the episode where we tell you what was trending over the weekend.

We also let you get to know us a little bit better by giving some underrateds and overrated from our lives. We, of course, in our regular episodes, let the guests tell us what they think is overrated and underrated. Andrew, is there something that you think is underrated? Here's a pivot from my original underrated, but it's still from the same grocery store visit, which is keeping that or at least trying to keep that like crazy ass basil that isn't really supposed to live alive from the grocery store. Oh, the one that like comes in a little potted plant? Yeah, the little potted plant, which I just on a whim was like, you shall.

live. I bought one. I made Pesto the other day. And I was like, I'm going to try to keep you alive. Wow. I'm like a real, you know, roll, got a black thumb right here. I could never keep a plant alive. Yeah. But I have gotten so much like babies first gardening equipment like in the last week. And I actual Fisher price tool. Yeah. I mean, genuinely, they may as well be. It's also because it's very small. I'm literally keeping, I repotted the basal plant or the several basal plants. I guess that's the first lesson. Anyway, I don't know what I'm doing and I'm making a ton of mistakes, but I think I'm just going to attempt to keep this MFR alive for no, I guess it was because the pesto was pretty good. yeah hell yeah i don't i don't know what to do pesto anyway yeah keep that thing alive um all the advice on the internet is that the the container it comes in is uh greatly insufficient you need to like so much more it's the smallest it's a teaspoon of soil that they give it so it's basically like

the factory farming of cultivating basil it's like you know if if it were in any way sentient it would be like borderline cruelty conditions that that plant is in. Yeah, it's one of those things. Like, it's when I was researching getting a turtle for my seven-year-old and, like, my friends who have turtles, okay, I have a friend who has turtles. I was trying to flex, like I got many friends with turtles. My friend who has turtles is a little rat that knows ninjitsu, but it's fine. he keeps many of them yeah he was like yeah you just like use that uh you know use a normal sized

fish aquarium and the turtle's happy then you do research and it's like you need to convert one of the rooms in your house to have enough room for the turtle if you if you want to have a turtle like you need a full on you need to start digging up your backyard if you want a turtle to live comfortably. Like, that sounds like what was going, like Brian, Brian the editor was like, you got to repot those immediately

in the actual ground. Yeah. And you got to have at least an acre, man, for the basil to be, to really expand. Yeah, it's not even close. Wait, why? Turtles, I, I will say,

I mean, because turtles and parrots are famously, like, treated as like cheap, maybe nearly disposable pets, but under the right conditions can live for like fucking seven years. Yeah, yeah. Their life, they will outlive you.

It's like, it's almost like by design, those like grocery store turtles are meant to be murdered. Like whatever happens, their life is going to be way shorter than if people weren't around. Right. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Also, uh, another note from Brian the editor, uh, he went to see the naked gun movie over the weekend. And Brian the editor, uh, you've, You may have heard him on the podcast before listeners. It's not one who gives glowing recommendations very often.

Yeah. This was glowing. I have yet to see it, and I still know it's a glowing wreck. And also, I mean, this is just, you know, holding the tin cup out for, you know, all the people in the entertainment industry, but specifically the comedy side. Comedy, yes. Comedy is really really toast. So, yeah, we really need. it. If everyone listening could go see this movie, I don't know, seven or eight times. I have no

personal stake in this. I have none either. The only reason I didn't, I actually had a window where I could have seen a movie over the weekend, immediately felt guilty about having that window. I was like, what? Yeah, you need to be doing something else. But I chose not to see. Like learning how to sleep standing up, home. You need to. Exactly. But I, uh, I didn't go see Naked gun because I'm going to see it this week with my mom and I the hardest I've ever laughed at a movie was like when I was eight or so and saw naked gun with my mom and was and so I was like mom we got to hit this naked gun yeah this is going okay here's a question here's an actual question I haven't even looked at the rating I assume it's PG-13 I just remember is it R? I think because all the reviews are like this is the, you know, biggest or all the, all the, I. But even though I'm checking on the,

the Bafo box office report and they're saying that this is, it's doing well for an R-rated comedy. But even the like original from the 70s, 80s, 80s, I guess. 80s, yeah. That one seemed wildly inappropriate for kids, if I recall. I think it was R also. Yeah, okay. I just, you know, it was a different time.

People were, no, that one was PG-13. But it was from the era, right. Airplane, I remember seeing the non-TV cut version. And I was like, oh, there's just random boobs in this. This is like a real, like, you know, it's from the 70s. It's from the era where you could plausibly have Playboy for the articles and also for the boobies. That's right. Yeah, exactly.

They just slid them in there wherever they could, wherever they could get them. Also, middle-aged white men were in charge of everything. So, yeah. I think God, that's changed. We're going to want to see those, I think, in this otherwise children's comedy about fighting ghosts. Like a silly, a silly movie that's mostly pun-based jokes, but also has just enough nudity to give. that's right that's right like right off the bat too i think there's just a like a topless woman in the opening credits oh god it's so weird anyways my underrated animals on trampolines

might have something to do with my sleep deprivation uh i've uh there's no shortage of clips of animals on trampolines uh i've long been a fan of uh bears in hammocks Are you familiar with these? Have you seen the bears in hammocks? I mean, I don't know if there's an iconic one, but I feel like I've seen it in general. Yeah. There's,

I've seen some pretty iconic ones. Like that just really like in terms of like, their actual physical comedy performances, because they're really expressing the weirdness of being in a hammock. For the first time, like the sort of like mixture of like comfort and chilling while also feeling incredibly unsteady. Yeah.

It's like a type of precariousness that I think a hammock has to be like just like the perfect personality test. Like if you are able to, like the amount you are able to relax in a hammock is exactly how relaxed you are as a human being. Right. Because it's like, Catherine, are you saying all animals on trampolines are AI? Just the ones that are going around the internet right now. The bunnies and the bear are AI, unfortunately. Oh no. Oh, no, I've been, I've been had.

Wait, the raccoons also? Oh, I guess that makes sense. All right. Well, then I'm going with bears on hammocks because those predate AI and they fucking roll. I highly recommend. Can I just say that should be, I guess it's like, I was going to say that should be the centerpiece of every hammock company's advertising campaign is this thing can hold a fucking bear. Right. Yeah, except when it doesn't.

The fact that it even can kind of hold a bear. How much is a bear way? Right. Six times the biggest human? Five, four. They really got my ass with these raccoons on trampolines. All right. So we're going bears.

We're going bears and hammocks. I'm sorry. Fuck the raccoons on trampolines. For all the listeners, I did see just, the pilot light go out and jack's eyes a little bit just now and it was already it was already on dim that's right it's this is going to be a tough next 30 minutes guys after learning that those are uh those are AI I guess that makes sense listen I mean to the extent that you want to be hardened even though the like um drawing of it is you know getting good enough that it can be

you know, it could fool a human being on two hours of sleep. The important thing really is that, like, I, you know, because it's like as, as AI's like output fidelity is improving, you know, we're starting to get to the point where it's like, oh, can this do creative work? And I think the thing that is helpful is that it can, like, repeat things, but it's not generating new things and thankfully the people who are really into it have no actual

imagination. So I guess for what it's worth different animals being on trampolines is sort of the extent of where this is going to go. Yeah, it turns out that this is just an easy thing to fake with AI. I was like, man, suddenly everybody's showing off these videos.

Raccoons have discovered I was like they must have gotten the word out in the forest. It's the value of like an original thing. So listen, the next weird animal thing you'll be delighted by because there will be a novelty to it and then it will be copied by AI. It makes the Bears and Hammack videos all the more wonderful in retrospect and said now someone's going to be like those are also AI, bro. But those have been around for like over a decade. So this is my pitch based on

animals getting to enjoy the stuff that we do is I feel like we need to have a day where wild animals get to take over a water park because I'm absolutely certain that bears would enjoy the shit out of a water slide you know this is like your villain origin story like you're here to wipe out humanity

because you just want to see what it would look like if a bear got on a water slide because they do break in and, like, enjoy people's pools, like, you know, take a bath during the summer. Did I ever tell you this story? Have I ever told this story on the, um, on the pod? Um, there was one time. And this was, this was sort of like many years ago now, but it was in the like, you know,

the city of Detroit, really the, the sort of like industrial blight and the, you know, sort of contraction of the city was really setting in. Um, but I'm from Michigan. I went to a, uh, high school friend's wedding. And basically the, the, The ceremony and the reception were, I don't know, five, four or five blocks apart through like a, you know, just a sort of like at the time, relatively abandoned part of downtown Detroit. The neighborhood from Barbarian. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. It was, well, it was weirder than that because we're walking and a little drunk, we're in our, I don't know, 20s probably. And walking down the street on one side of the road is a now abandoned bank, it looks like, I think. I think it was like a banker. You know, it felt like a city bank that had just been given up on. And I saw a deer and a cubicle. And it looked me right in the eyes. And it's a thing I will never forget.

And it was crazy. And it was just like, yeah, even in the fucking apocalypse, sometimes you still got to like check into your shitty clock in at your shitty day job. Was he sitting at a desk being like doing a dumb typing gesture? Like, oh, look at me. I'm a fucking idiot wasting my life. It did say fuck you, you're a mindless drone, but... This is you.

Yeah. Andrew, what is something you think is overrated? Oh, my God. I was going to say, actually, overrated, speaking of Naked Gun, is not watching comedies in the theater. It's really fun to laugh with a bunch of people. This is why, for instance, I hate comedy clubs, but I know people. People love comedy clubs to see, you know, if you'll go to a comedy club to watch a stand-up do a routine, you've probably already seen or some crowd work that it's like, you know, you're there because it's fun to be in a crowd of people laughing. And, yeah, the new naked gun, but in general, just like comedies.

There's comedies out there. It's fun to be in a theater. Go, go do that because I know you would all rather watch it on your Netflix's. Yeah. Go do it. Yeah. Or get a leak and then charge people money to come do it, watch it in your, no, actually, we can't recommend that.

That's probably not good. Just like, you know, get on your neighborhood, hang up a white sheet and a projector and get all the kids. I do like a guerrilla cinema, but it has to be like Little Rascals style. Yeah, the best. Uh-huh. All right. My overrated

let's see I've got a bunch of like ones that don't really make sense that I came up with this morning Like what you have in the talk All right acronyms that don't mean shit Yep So well all right

I don't even know if this is an acronym also But my son is into military history Don't ask me how he got there He's just like real into you know I mean listen I like how your son has like a like three generations ago red flag like exactly right this red flag runs deep yeah oh oh the guy that really loves you know really loving military history is like one step away from like do you want to

see my Nazi plate but yeah um this good it's so it's so charmingly quaint it's like what someone from the 50s would have. I know. It's weird. It's like he went from Star Wars into like real wars. But he's nice. He's nice about like he knows the Nazis of the bad guys. So that's good. But he did,

he had been asking me what D-Day stood for. And I was just telling him Demolition Day for a long time because I didn't want to look it up. And then I found out it stands for, the D stands for day. Oh, no. So it's day day. That's so dumb. That's amazing.

Wait. So like it's as in like this is the day. Right. Like we're doing it. Right. Oh my God. It's like a longstanding military thing to use D for like the big day. But they just called it D day because they're they're bad at naming stuff, I guess.

That's very. So it's not an acronym. It's just a, yeah, Brian helpfully pointed out that's not an acronym. Initialisms. Do you know what? What is an, do you, I mean, this is, this is our wheelhouse, I feel. The, like, I guess it was like, not strictly a hip-hop thing, but, you know, creating acronyms in the 90s.

I mean, I guess junior mafia is my favorite example. I'm trying to, it's like, masters at finding some. something um oh that where they like make one up you can tell that they've like backed into it somehow yeah yeah i remember that yeah so weird there's this song that closed uh jizz's liquid swords album basic instructions before leaving earth yeah or i mean which was the less successful sequel to a cream cash rules everything around me um which that that one works pretty well um i did i came up with one. Oh, wait, here we go. Junior Mafia was Masters at Finding Intelligent Attitudes. It's all just

very, like, middle school teacher, like... Exactly. That sounds like something they said was what it stood for to fool a middle school teacher. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. What do you mean we shouldn't call ourselves Junior Mafia? It stands for Masters at Finding Positive attitude. I really liked like off the cream era.

For some reason, my friends and I came up with milk, M-I-L-C, money is like cash. Money is like cash. You guys were dead right about that. Yeah. Actually, we were as wrong as possible. Cash is nothing. Wutag and us were wrong about what cash is.

We, of course, should have been talking about cryptocurrency. credit, yeah, even better. It's actually a pretty easy transition. Also, I also have another day day, which I think that is, Brian asked us if that's Day Day Day from Friday too, which I think there might have been a character named Day Day Day. I was also like, I think this is the inverse of being fooled by AI because there's a Smurf ad in Los Angeles.

one of the they have like these ads they were like you know smurfette and like with a quippy line and one of them was the nerdy smurf and it said talk nerdy to me but somebody had altered the poster to make it look like the nerdy smurf

was covered in cum and like his white hat was just a glob of cum and I thought that was the real ad and I was like well that's a weird one I should bring that up on overrated. And then, yeah, I looked it up.

And he does not, in the original ad, appear to be covered and come. This is, listen, this is why street art rules. Exactly. Got my ass. Hopefully didn't use AI, but maybe they did. Impossible to say. All right. Yeah.

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but it does have that like I was saying with the bear and the hammock it gives you you can witness them experiencing the weirdness of a trampoline for the first time where they're like what the fuck you know what probably is like the best indicator of like whether something like that is AI is like especially because AI is like needs to be like short and efficient and it's designed for probably TikTok or insert it's there there's no like wobble ever there there's no like false start it's just like

you go it it goes in and does the thing goes in and they immediately know how to like yeah yeah all right we will put the link to the actual animal on trampoline and one of the actual bears on a hammocks in the show notes um footnotes uh all right uh on to the news and this is important uh this is this is kind of like the episode we recorded on January 6 like as January 6 was still happening because it's still too early to tell on the Sydney Sweeney stuff um yeah people are reposting clips from four years ago of her crying and being like, I didn't, like, why are you being mean to me? And being like, she's saying this about the Republican thing.

What we do know is that Donald Trump thinks that he has confirmation that Sidney Sweeney is a registered Republican and is, this is, I think this is like genuinely working. Like, I think this is going to be the thing that allows them to move on from the Epstein thing. It's them being like, everybody hates Sydney Sweeney's boobs. We love them. And you're too mean to Sydney Sweeney. It's amazing to me that, like, on the front page of the Dredge report, like, five days later, it's still like a picture of Sydney Sweeney being like mega hero. It's just like, yeah.

All right. Jesus Christ. I guess I was like, I mean, I, it's. She just, listen, maybe I'm just distrusting of all rich white people. She just seemed like the most obvious Republican I've ever seen in my life. Am I fucking crazy? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know enough about her to like get, I don't know.

I mean. I guess she's from Florida. Yeah, but I'm just like, and it's like, oh, don't, you know, I had a bunch of people in mega hats at my party. like don't, don't judge them. They were doing bits. Yeah, yeah, exactly. The fake mega hat fake out.

Anyways, we're obviously going to be staying on top of this and further reporting as the story develops, whether she's a registered Republican or not. And whether it's wrong to hate her, I suppose. Yeah, exactly. And whether anybody hates her, whether anybody's just like, I don't know, man. it was like a weirdly worded ad that people should have thought twice about and that it's like a great example of white obliviousness. That's all. Yeah. Yeah. We're not saying she should be arrested. I don't think. No. Yeah. Not yet. But that what? Wait a second. Yeah. We'll see what her public apology looks like. But yeah, I don't know. It's, I mean, you are the expert. Yo, is this racist? Is

But is that ad racist, Andrew Tee? The Great Genes one? I mean, I, I, it's like, I think the thing is it's like, no, but read, like, it's not like the racist part of it. It's the like, hey, read the room. We're already in a white supremacist eugenics era. Exactly. So it's, it's, the thing that is racist is not having any clue. Any awareness.

people might be like, hey, not the time. Right. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about nothing I like more than kicking off a Monday morning episode on two hours of sleep. By tucking into a big pile of fluffy economic policy. Usually conversations about the Fed and jobs reports are above my pay grade, I guess. Like, just like, I don't know.

too boring like it's just too boring yeah the fed at a certain point i'm just like i don't i don't care enough and it feels like everybody talking about this it really it honestly feels like people talking about the weather where like it's there are just as many people predict or like sports just as many people predicting one thing as the other yeah anyone who like appears to be an expert will be wrong soon enough like it's just people kind of being fooled by randomness for a living yeah um but i think it's it's so like i mean i guess the the other thing though is this is where the insidious shit that is ruined our society is hiding yes that's right i'm not saying that you specifically or any of us or i'll just go on a limb anyone on this zoom right now

should okay should know about this stuff i'll see where you're going with this let me see where you're leading i'm just saying we're all too dumb to understand this which is fine but this is where they hide the injustice or the root of the injustice. Obviously, the injustice is just out there. Yeah, it feels. Right. I know enough to feel like this whole thing seems stacked to, like, be, have a lot of, like, functions to, like, take money and redistribute it upwards. And then that's all disguised in a bunch of, not random, in a bunch of complexity, right?

Yeah. So, like, by design, it's like. They want us to be like, you're too dumb. Yeah. I am like, I am kind of too dumb. Like, I'm not going to learn all this shit. I think it's, well, right. What I mean, though, it's not that you're like, we're too dumb to understand the concept.

The trap, I believe, as someone who doesn't really know, I suppose, is that what you're saying, is the complexity, the, like, education and the specific type of education to, like, cut through the jargon. and the complexity that they present this stuff with. That's the part that we're, quote, too dumb to understand. But I would also argue that's the part that is the trap. Yeah, it's the trap. And it makes you, everybody who speaks that language suddenly, like, no longer lives on the same planet as me. It feels like, you know.

But it's because they're describing, like, this is like PR, right? The jobs report doesn't really, like, like, like with the way they use and present the statistics like the actual report yes but with sorry the actual numbers do mean something the report which weirdly and i'm sorry i'll just like read down a little bit in the document i think trump isn't totally wrong when he's like this shit is propaganda right his solution of it should be my propaganda is the right but he's not wrong that it's propaganda i i think it's yeah i think it's them doing some best guessing, maybe some convenient best guessing at the current moment.

Yeah. But I do, I don't know. So, well, so if I may, the piece that feels to me like it's propaganda, like any statistics, is that like what you choose to emphasize and how you choose to collate the, you know, like group the bucket to buckets together. Um, because I just remember like near the end of the Biden term when, you know, I don't know the mechanism. you know, without being sinister, it doesn't have to be a conspiracy, but like they were doing things like treating new Uber drivers as new corporations, because technically, since they are independent contractors, a new Uber driver is technically a new business that has been formed and a new employee that has been created for that business.

And that is clearly bullshit. Yeah. In all sorts of different ways to make it seem like people are doing better than they are. That's absolutely for sure. Yeah. So, but electing to have that as a statistic, like, perhaps that was like, you know, just like, like it's, it's the, the old data model was insufficient to describe it. But also, on the face of it, if you're putting this report out, you, like, you have to look

at that and be like, well, that's not a completely bullshit measure of the economy and still put it out, which is a, you know, a propaganda, an editorial choice, not a math choice. Right. That's right. Yeah. so there's a ton of framing being done a ton of like context being supplied um so the big the reason this is the story is friday august first the bureau of labor statistics re like redid the numbers for the past like three months basically we're like we got new data and the numbers for the past three

months are worse than we thought they were. This is bad for Trump. This is kind of a tremendously inconvenient development for him because after the tariffs, everybody, all the economists were like, this is probably going to be bad for the economy. Yeah. And for like jobs and like people who are like further down, like the people who are going to feel this are like further down, you know, poor people who have like, you know, our, our paycheck to paycheck. And then there were a series of numbers released that were

actually non-disastrous. And the New York Times and a bunch of people were like, there was a New York Times article that was like, the economy seems healthy. Were the warnings about tariffs overblown? And like, that's what, that's been sort of the consensus for the past three months. Like, he did the tariffs. These jobs reports and all the, you know, data and tea leaves that they Reid came in and were like pretty normal and non-disastrous and they're like, okay, then he, maybe he knows what he's doing. Let's let Trump cook. And then they were like, oh yeah, those initial tea leaves were like guesses. And the numbers have actually now come in and they're bad. And it's kind of in line with people who were like, this is going to be a disaster because of.

the tariffs. And so he was pissed. He was like this is, you know, this person who made up this report is in the tank for Biden Harris and fired them. And

so people are now you know, nervous because they're like the you know, we had the appearance of a objective. Like these people were not political appointees. who were collecting these numbers of releasing them, right?

They were, you know, people who were supposed to just be doing, calling balls and strikes, as politicians loved to talk about. Whether they were doing that or not, like, it seems like before they were certainly keeping in line with their, like we, like you were mentioning before, like under Biden, they released very positive numbers. Yeah. And then, like, as the election approached, they had. had to be like, ah, those numbers are kind of bullshit, you know, and like had to pull them back.

And now it seems like they're doing the same thing again under Trump, where they're like, feel like the initial estimates are what the existing administration wants to hear. And then, like, once the actual numbers come in, they have to revise them backwards. Right. I think the thing that Trump doesn't seem to understand because why would he is a fucking moron is like, this is a bipartisan effort, but I just think he doesn't understand that, like, given that the two parties are the Democrats, a center-right party and the Republicans, a far-right party, this is not like, this is not like politically motivated in the way that he thinks.

It's not politically motivated to make the more right-wing party seem look bad. They always overestimate, not always, but they mostly, overestimate the jobs report because their politics is really just about making the market seem good. So the big headline is always, things are this higher number. And then the revisions downwards are always quiet. Like, because it's just about perception. Like, they don't actually care about how many people have fucking jobs. They just want a better headline given the data set. So it's just like the, the data set with all of its estimates, is always high-rolled. Like, the headline is always high-rolled. And then the low-roll. And then the low

role comes in, like, because that's closer to reality. Yeah. That seems like how they're already doing it. And he's just like, you know, he could have just like kind of quietly let there be some, you know, troubling headlines in the economist and the Atlantic. And instead, he like fired the person and like drew attention to it. So it might just be like part of this new thing where he's, you know, bad at crisis management, as we saw with the Epstein case. Like, he might be losing his touch on that front.

So, yeah, there's going to be a lot of, like, confident people claiming they know what's going to happen next. Nobody knows shit. Does seem like literally everybody who is saying terrorists are going to not work and hurt people seem to be, like, the numbers that are coming in seem to be, like, leading in that direction. Yeah. I mean, it's just really like a matter of, Like, all he cares about and understands is the headlines. So, like, I mean, listen, I know that, like, weirdly, one of my stances has been, like, obviously, this is bad. But, like, we're not really thinking about how little or, like, things were so bad under Biden. And, like, like, on any of these measures that we're, like, really screaming about, like, you know, fucking Trump being a monster on, like, Biden and Obama.

deported a ton of fucking people. Yes. So, like, yeah, this is bad. But, like, we're really, like, hiding that it's not that much worse. It's not that much different than what was already happening. The headlines are worse. But, like, and so I think, like, if Trump wants a political stooge that's going to high roll the, like, labor statistics and then, you know, I guess what maybe won't happen is the downward revision. Right.

Guess what? We just won't get the downward revision. yeah yeah i do think like the the thing about trump is he does shit that's so obviously wrong that it makes it easy for me to understand as somebody who like you know my brain turns off when i hear people talking about the feds revising interest rates lower like i you know like i now know what that means because of bullshit like this where he's just like he brings a kindergartner's understanding to all this shit and it makes it possible for me a person with the mind of a kindergartner to understand. But that's the thing is, well, I, you know, I think you're,

you're not giving yourself enough credit. All you have to have is the, exactly, all you have to have is the, like, the competency of a second grader and you're running laps around the fucking president. Yeah, yeah. And that's kind of all it takes. That's right. Let's, uh, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. trying to find some bullshit to talk about that has nothing to do with economics. We'll be right back. My God.

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So, that what, real quick. I did not say the interview, but oh, my God. Yeah, just his statement is so wild because Charlemagne the God's, like, statements are so middle of the road. Like, yeah. Just the most, like, CNN level to, I'm like, wait, is Charlemagne the God? running for president because he's like I wouldn't give his presidency a good rating simply because the least of us are still being impacted the worst it's like very it's like yeah I feel like

most but he's also like I would say running for president as like a fucking Republican like it's not strong at all not strongly where yeah exactly like it's like Eric Adams type shit like anything that takes away Medicaid from people and will put people in a worse financial situation than they were previously I'm not for yeah damn oh oh um and Trump got very mad like his just

he he can't take you know well I mean I think that's the thing it's like no matter how like centrist or right wing the black person he's like Trump is the type of racist that any criticism from a black person he can't can't do it he cannot Brooke yeah

he cannot truck with calls so he responded calling charlemagne the god a low IQ individual he seemed to really like it is weird because again this is the sort of shit that's being said all day every day I think the thing that really pissed him off is that Charlemagne the god gets to be called the god and like he is like because he specifically like opens his thing saying calling Charlemagne racistly's bag which I don't like hit not race was not mentioned at all in the interview. Racist Leesbeck, Charlemagne, the God.

Why is he allowed to use the word God when describing himself? Can anyone imagine the uproar there would be if I use that nickname? Just kind of floating that out there. He's a low-ac-cue, individual racism, racism, racism. Once again, hate to agree with Trump, but there we go. But, yeah,

I think he's mad. Like, he wants to be able to call himself the God. He also claims to have ended five wars, including avoiding war between India and Pakistan, uh, despite the fact that India has done like, what? He, but it really like gave me a clear image of him just like watching news channels and any good news he takes credit for and genuinely believes it's like a W for him because it's like, look at these headlines. He didn't cause the bad thing to happen. So by

inaction, right, by not getting involved somehow. Yeah. And then when there's bad news, he's just like, idiots should have, should have asked me for help. Anyways, that's, that's another Trump thing that we don't need to do too much into. Do you think his truth social posts? I mean, they're written in a way, you know, God, now I'm just going to repeat a thing that I'm hoping is not merely apocryphal. But, you know, like, those like when Nigerian scam emails were a popular thing. Oh, yeah.

Like, the thing that I've read that now I'm just, I'll read it. Made a lot of money on those scams, man. I hope I'm not wrong. Yeah, exactly. Well, you freed all those princes. That's right. Is, like, they're written in a way that, because they're, they're like a mass, you know, essentially like a mass data collection.

And they're really looking for the true outliers and credulity and the people who really do not understand what's going on. And so the typos and all the weird phrasing actually is like, you know, whether it was intentional or not was like part of the product because it like would filter out anyone that would waste your time. Anyone who like wasn't going to send you money is not reading this. And I do think the way these truth social posts, it's like, like they're literally written in a way that is like idiotic. And I do not, by the way, think this is intentional. I just think this is like a byproduct of what's happening.

But like anyone who buys it is stupid enough to think Trump is a good president. Right. And, like, it's not like, that's his genius. It's just that's his accidentally being the right person for this moment in time. Just filtered the right people or the, I guess, the wrong people. Filtered the worst people into the bucket. But it's like, and I guess our education system is creating more of the worst people through its in action. Yeah, exactly.

It's just like, it's, it's this thing. And the other thing that I think it did is like, like, like, his, like, type of dumbness specifically, I think the thing that it does really well, and I'm not saying this is, like, intentional, is that it allows, like, people like me, but even worse, like, like Democrats to think get a load of this moron is a sufficient political message, as opposed to, like, you know, helping anyone. Right. So, like, he was able to sort of, and again, I don't think intentionally, but, like, the end result, was he sort of baited Democrats into thinking, get a load of this doney, in a condescending way.

He was shocked that he won the election. Yeah. It's like the only necessary political strategy. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird. I don't think. Shocked over and over every day as we wake up.

Yeah. What the? Like, what the hay? Come on. Can't believe I'm losing to this guy. Um, yeah. It's a, jerk off. It is interesting.

I wonder, I do wonder, like, I don't think that Trump is like some genius who like cracked the code by studying, like, you know, I think he's always written like a unhinged, you know, narcissist who's just like, has no filter. But I do wonder at a certain point if they are now studying and teaching this communication style and like Trump, truth social posts and the, you know, Nigerian, uh, print. emails are like the ure texts that they're like now this is this is what you have to understand about the rules of like punctuation when speaking in this language to appeal to you know what I mean like J.D. Vance is like studying this three hours a day. I will say for what it's worth, it does seem more art than science though. Yeah, yeah. Totally. Like how do you really dissect this? It's just like, yeah. I think grammar in general is fucking stupid.

Like, any, like, English classes I had where they were, like, just teaching you the rules of speaking. It's like, well, some of the shit isn't even true most of the time. And it doesn't communicate anything. Well, I listen, I fucking not love grammar, but I have a real mind for it. So there's a part of me that's like, these are the rules. But it is, like, who cares? I at least understand their stupid rules. I just know them all.

The reason I would say, I wonder, I think the trap, once again, for the J.D. Vances of the world is thinking that it is, like, and it's the same mindset that applies to, like, AI tech pros. They're the ones that think, oh, it's the punctuation or it's the, you know, the random capitalization. It's not that. It's the, like, the higher order, don't give a fuckiness of it. That is the thing that matters. And I think, like, yeah, once again, it's like a trap to devote. for all the for all the for all the would be proto populist fascists out there don't waste your time studying the actual syntax just get yourself an authentically racist moron vibe that's right you just it's all about the right mixture of celsius and high noon yes by the way this was all not talking about Trump yeah this was all how we were not going to talk about this is great the the structure of this is Sydney Sweeney Trump Trump and then Celsius recall so just just a nice American sandwich. So high noon,

a company that makes actually alcoholic vodka seltzers, has had to issue a recall for two production lots of its drink after some of its vodka seltzers were mislabeled as Celsius, and then like that's the little R

in a circle. Astro vibe TM, energy drink, comma, sparkling blue razz edition. with a silver top. End quote. Oh, hell. Yeah.

Fuck. Yeah. According to the FDA, which I feel like just amazing marketing here. Again, like, I don't think this was intentional. But like the fact that every time, like, because they're very clearly, very proud of the name that they've come up with for this product. Based on both a registered mark and a trademark indication in a single drink title, would, would indicate that they're like,

guys, we fucking did it. We nailed it. So fucking go. And so now everybody just has to repeat over and over again to beware when drinking your Celsius registered, Astro Vibe

trademark, energy drink, sparkling blue razz edition with a silver top. I feel like equally bad for you, probably both of those drinks. I mean, but it's also like that's so, so many words that if you like you got to see energy drink in there yes um otherwise

what is this yes what is this thing Celsius it's it's kind of an astro vibe if i had to describe it i'd say it's like kind of giving an astro vibe um i will say this is like dangerous for sober people because sober people love love energy drinks and yes uh they just beware out there um This does feel like, on the other hand, a Willy Wonka Golden Ticket style event for, like, freshmen in high school, you know? Like, just like, holy shit, you guys. We could have a party this weekend if we just get the right box of fucking Celsius astro vibe energy, drinks, sparkling blue-raz edition with the silver top.

I know seven com quads put me down or not down. However, put your ass in the dirt. I'm just going to say, I don't really drink anymore, but I would much rather have a high noon than a Celsius registered trademark astrovibre trademark energy drink, sparkling blue presentition with a silver. That shit sounds like it would fucking kill me for real. It truly sounds like it contains the thing that they injecting in your veins when they have to like track them at the hospital, like track your blood flow. at the hospital. Yeah, yeah. It changes the polarity of your white blood cells.

It's like now your veins are pumping toward your heart and your, or vice versa. Your arteries are pumping back towards your heart. Yeah. It is, it is sort of like the Uno reverse card of blood flow within the human body. My veins turned red and my arteries turn blue. God damn. I mean, listen, I know I'm fucking old and there's nothing worse than an old man complaining about what these kids today are drinking. But this is fucking crazy.

Guys, like, you know, Red Bull, the Red Bull to Monster to Rock Star Pipeline, at least those were just normal words. Right. This is fucking nuts. I mean, Celsius Astrovon, energy drink, sparkling, drink, resident. with the silver top. I have to hand it. I mean, okay,

so one, they're getting that name in there multiple times with the product we call full name. Also, what have we learned from the Lubbubu craze is that the mystery box unboxing thing is like half the battle. Oh my God.

Yes. This is like now giving people a reason to have a, mystery box unboxing of just being like am i like am i vibrating off of my seat or am i a little bit drunk we are like this far from just having a can that just says drink and it can contain anything from like liquid fentanyl to like fucking gravy and it's just like who cares drink to die fast drink to die slow yeah yeah it's just a chart of how fast it kills you. Hit X to drink.

All right. Anyways, be safe out there, people. That's going to do it for this Monday morning, Monday afternoon on the East Coast. We're going to be back tomorrow morning with a whole ass episode of the show. Yeah, if we live, which is not a guarantee. I've got six of these high noon raspberry edition with a silver team. cops that I'm about to shotgun and let God sort them out. All from each production lot.

Jack has built himself sort of like a novelty revolver. That's probably like two feet. He's just loaded up these cans. Yeah. It's like the quantum machine gun for drunkenness. One of them might. All right. Talk to you all tomorrow.

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