The Daily Zeitgeist - Centrist Cheap Shots, Soak Your Bod In Pepsi 12.3.20

Episode Date: December 3, 2020

In episode 771, Jack and Miles are joined by Joey Clift to discuss establishment moderates vs progressives, Michael Flynn calling for a military coup, Georgia election officials condemning violent rhetoric on the right, the Pepsi-scented face mask, Melania's White House Christmas decorations, and more!FOOTNOTES: Ocasio-Cortez hits back after Manchin criticism WATCH: Georgia elections official condemns violent rhetoric, calls on Trump to 'step up' | ABC News It Seems Bad That the Guy the President Just Pardoned Is Calling for Him to Execute a Military Coup Would you care to unwind with a Pepsi-scented face mask? Melania Trump's 2020 Christmas Decorations Are Unconventionally Traditional John F. Kennedy honored in this year's White House Christmas decorations QAnon Followers Think JFK Jr. Is Coming Back on the 4th of July Melania Trump and the Sexist Role of “First Lady”: Why Do We Still Even Have This? WATCH: Baths - Lovely Bloodflow Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's a vibe. It feels 48-ish days until January 20th. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack O'Brien. Do-do-do-do. I'm O'Brien, and I host Daily Zeit. Doom-doom-doom-doom-doom-doom-doom-doom-doom-doom-doom-doom-doom-doom-doom. That is courtesy of Gucci Mane Because he heard that I was into That band called The Beatles

Yeah Shout out to him I want to hear the end of that song If you can keep that going Really spell those chords out. Pick them out. Pick them out. Hey, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.

Well, I try and try to forget you, fool, and it won't be hard to do. Every day we're closer to firing you. Whatever happened to my vocal cords right there? I think they were blown out from too many AKAs And that one comes from Johnny Davis The compulsive punster on Discord Thank you so much The compulsive punster?

Punster Oh, punster Yeah Love it I wonder, Johnny, you go to those punning competitions? I know they have that shit Where people go and throw down puns. It's very interesting, that whole world.

What a subculture. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented Joey Cliff! Yeah, that's right. I'm Joey Cliff. Oi, oi, oi. Joey, Joey, oi, oi, oi. Joey, Joey, oi, oi, oi. Beatles songs. Hey, Trump.

Let something vote. But you won't be president. I did a Beatles thing and a politics thing. That's what we're doing, right? I like that. Yeah. I remember part of. Perfect approximation.

I remember part of a line of Hey Dude by the Beatles. That's all I got. Yeah. Hey Dude, right? That's the song. Hey Dude by the Beatles. That's all I got. Yeah. Hey Dude, right? Hey Dude. Yeah. I love that song. Yeah.

It's crazy that they ripped off that Nickelodeon show to write that song. Yeah. Joey, what's good, man? How have you been since last we talked? What was that, like 2019? I want to say it was like early 2020. And I would say that like, I've been pretty good. Like the first couple months of 2020, I traveled a bunch, got flown around a lot of places,

did a lot of shows. And then around March, that immediately stopped for some weird reason. Yeah. And then, you know, I've just been kind of hanging out. I just got tapped on out. Would you tweet something? You tweet something spicy, you get canceled? Is that what happened?

Tweet something spicy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got canceled by the coronavirus. It works just right up, huh? I hate to see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just, yeah, you know, it happens. And then I just started writing on a show called Spirit Rangers on Netflix, which I've been

doing since May. Yeah, I saw that, man. Congrats. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, it's super cool. So that's kind of, it's been a lot of that. It's been a lot of sitting in this room that you can see on the camera that people listening to you can't see.

How is writing for a TV show during the pandemic? How are those Zoom rooms? I mean, honestly, it's not too bad. Something that I've learned is that you can do a lot of prop comedy bits in writer's rooms

really easily because you can't see the edges of it. So I do a lot of like, comedy bits in writer's rooms really easily. It's like, you can't see the edges of it. So I do a lot of like, like, Oh look, I'm like, um, it's a puppet, but it's really my beats headphone container.

Like, uh, you know, those, that's, that's why I get paid the big bucks to write. Yeah. Exactly.

Like that. Yeah. Yeah. I got to get on that, man. Hey, how do I get one of those gigs? Yeah.

Just like, Oh, you just, you buy a, you buy beats headphones and then just, this comes with it. And, uh, you know, it's like, you, uh, you buy Beats headphones, and then just this comes with it. I love it. You know, if you buy a MacBook and you just, like, lie and say you're still a college student, they'll give it to you for free.

So, like, yeah, you know, I mean, that's how you get that. When's the show going to production? If you don't mind spilling the beans from what's going on in there. Yeah, sure. Yeah, so we started writing in May. I think that it's all like kind of TBD, but I think that like because it's animated, those tend to take a little while to make. So like 2022 is kind of what we're looking like. But I'm excited about it. It's going to be Dova South.

Yeah. And for people who don't know, it's like an all native show. The room is also, is it diverse or it's a lot of uh like indigenous and native writers as well uh i mean it's it's uh i guess it's it's diverse in that it's an all-native room but no it's diverse in that like the showrunner shoemash i'm cowlitz the one of the writers is like is uh i'm gonna uh uh or uh oklahoma based i forget her tribe but she's great um so it's it's diverse within indigenous people right but uh yeah it's an all-n but she's great. So it's diverse within indigenous people. But yeah, it's an all native writers room.

It's a preschool show. I think the first ever United States preschool show that's animated to like feature an all native writers room and be created by a native creator Carissa Valencia, who's Shoemash, who's a really great animation writer.

And yeah, it's just good shit all around. It's like a super fun show to be a part of. You know, the life of a writer. I'm going to say there's a lot of stealthy naps between meetings because my bed's right here, so there's a lot of joke, joke, joke, joke, joke. Oh, we got a meeting in 30 minutes? Oh,

I'm just going to take a little breather. I stole 12 minutes before we recorded. It's good, right? You can do 30? I don't fall asleep. I just like my brain like kind of goes into a different form of like spinning out. But it's like a more relaxing one. And I feel a little bit more energized when I stand up from it.

That reminds me like when I worked on a PA like and did overnight shoots. And like you'd have like your 15 or or 30 like at 3 30 in the morning and you're like well i'm just gonna kind of like put my brain to sleep slightly and then just be like huh yeah fine i'm like i'm locking down this part of the set i'm locking it up don't worry i'm locking it up yeah it's the like go to your car and close your eyes for five minutes and then be like oh shit i've got to do another thing it's like you tell your like friend who's a pa just like hey if there's something important like call me twice and then i'll wait yeah exactly you know and then like i'll do the same for you in an hour or two um wait what what is your what is your longest pa shift like the longest you've

ever worked as a pa in terms of like hours in one day my longest was probably 16 hours ah it sucks when i worked on hell's kitchen because that set is 24 hours so they're always there's never a break like you know i would i remember i did like three to 3 p.m to 6 a.m once uh that was a weird one why is it 24 hours why because on the show they live on the set all the contestants to hell's kitchen they live on set like in a dorm basically that's also camera'd up and so that's where you get all the drama in between when they have to compete in the restaurant and blah blah blah people getting tired making bad decisions exactly so my worst was probably um i was a pa for a break.com sketch shoot uh they were shooting like a sizzle reel

or something like that in 2011 it was 18 hours and i made a cool 50 dollars it was it was 50 dollars and then when they realized that i'd been there for 18 hours they they were like let's like we'll look through the budget we'll see if we can give you some more then i got my check and I got $58. Hey. I'd love to see it. Oh, yeah, bro. Man, I bought such a half of a Subway sandwich for that.

Oh, God. Break.com. Shout out to break.com. Yeah. Just IP. Break.com. If you go to break.com, it's not a website anymore. Oh, really? It's like a landing page for like a ISP or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, would you like to buy break.com it's not a website anymore oh really it's like a like a landing page for like a isp or

something yeah yeah yeah it's like would you like to buy break.com oh no so the internet bubble yeah i mean yeah if you want it was finally my b-boy website can have life again break.com yeah yeah finally my finally my fan site on the break-in movies can exist. Exactly. All right, Joe, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about the battle between AOC and Joe Coleman Mansion. Defund my butt.

The sort of dope takes you get from him uh classic literally word for word uh that was one of the things he said uh during the black lives matter protests uh trump is making things like as he continues to kind of insist that a coup is happening. He's making it very dangerous for even Republican voting officials. Bill Barr is now an enemy of the state. And Michael Flynn is calling openly for a military coup. That's something that happened. Once you get pardoned for just like everything, just all that over there, which seems to be what the pardon was. I think you get a little bit of a hop in your step

and you start to think you can take over the government. So we'll talk about that. We're going to talk about Pepsi. We're going to talk about Melania's Christmas decorations, all of that, plenty more. But first, Joe, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? So, I mean, a lot of my search history over the past couple of days have been just like Googling like weird things that I want to buy for

my like for my house and room and stuff. So I spent four hours researching the perfect office chair not too recently. It's a steel case gesture. I'm getting in a couple of days. Very excited about it. What's it called? A what? A steel case gesture? Steel case is the brand and the gesture.

It's like it's basically one of those office chairs where you could like move the arms around. Like the arms are really flexible. So you can like move it like right up to your like laptop. So you don't get carpal tunnel. Yeah. But I would say the thing that's the most telling of me is um uh googling olive garden dessert lasagna um i uh a couple a couple months ago or earlier this month i realized i was at like 8 000 twitter followers and i wanted to be like a kind of a just an even 10 000 by the end of the year so around election time i just tweeted

out like hey if i get 10 000 twitter followers by the end of the year i'll film myself eating lasagna like garfield so like barehanded tossing them out and i got it within like a day and then i was just like oh shit there's something i actually gotta do so then i was just googling like okay so like how am i gonna do that what kind of lasagna am i gonna get and i was like oh i want three kinds of lasagna olive garden has like deep fried appetizer lasagna they have giant family-sized lasagna olive garden has like deep fried appetizer lasagna they have giant family size lasagna plans and they have pans and they have a dessert lasagna which is like a multi-layer brownie and i was like i was like i want to throw that in the general direction of my face as hard as possible now wouldn't this just kick off a debate on how we're

defining lasagnas and cakes because as i think of a multi-layered brownie and i as i as i evoke images upon my computer of this thing it's looking like a cake now i guess it's a it's a it's a semantic thing but i'm also like when is is lasagna a cake i mean i guess that like the other end of it is like is like a three a three layer cake a lasagna like what are the main categories and what are the subcategories of this like is lasagna just like a pasta cake maybe

yeah right yeah yeah if we're stacking it's cake or a casserole but it's like but casseroles don't necessarily have stacks what is like an oreo a cake then cause like an oreo an oreo is a cookie right

oreo is a sandwich I think we've I've accepted it's a sandwich cookie oreo a cookie lasagna right well you can make cookie lasagna with an oreo which is something I do every night of my life so you take one of the sides off of

two cookies and then you put it together so it's almost a Big Mac. But if you want to go even larger than that because you're especially depressed, you can turn it into a full lasagna. Six by six. I'm not sure whether I

should envy you or severely pity you. I'm going to go with envy. Actually, or severely pity you. I'm going to go with envy. I'm going to go with envy. Actually, you should pity me. Just pity me. I'm the one who gets the text messages with the photos of them in the middle of the night. He's like, look, I did it.

They said I couldn't do it. 14 of them. And look how clean they are. You think they made them in the factory. Look how clean it is. Look how clean it is. I'm like, all right, dude. Miles, I think those might be cries of help from your friend, man.

I don't know. I just keep doing what I do and fucking with them. I'll be like, could be cleaner, Jack. Could be cleaner. Maybe just try again, buddy. Yeah, what if that had another layer of cookie on it, bro? B minus. I think I just saw that on Reddit on shitty cookie stacks.

Wait, is shitty cookie stacks a real subreddit? No, but that's always the joke on Reddit when people will suddenly just name a subreddit in a comment being like our shitty cookie stacks uh i mean if there was i'm on my computer right now i was just about to subscribe to shitty cookie stacks because that'd be delightful to look at or it's awful one of my favorite subreddits right now is there's a subreddit that's like r slash tucked in kitties that's just cats that are tucked in by blankets and it's like it's the most adorable thing you've ever seen in your damn life seeing an are tucked in by blankets. And it's like, it's the most adorable thing you've ever seen in your damn life. Seeing an animal tucked in is almost like a yawn.

Like where you see it and you're like, oh, I'm cozy too. I'm cozy too. Oh yeah, 100%. Yeah, it's just like, oh, that cat's like, somebody tucked that cat in and gave it a little pillow. That makes me feel cozy. It is so hard for me not to fall asleep

when I'm reading my kids' bedtime stories and like getting them to fall asleep. Parents who just are like, all right, and then I go back to work for four hours. I'm so tired. It winds you down, too. Oh, my God. Yeah. Wait, I got a question for you as somebody who reads kids' bedtime stories.

What bedtime stories slap and what bedtime stories are overrated? What are your favorites like what are your favorites and what are your like oh man sucks turn it on me as we're about to head into your underrated overrated um yeah i would say dr seuss still holds up there's a guy named fuck what's his name who does the elephant and piggy books there our listeners have heard all of this plenty of times. Berenstain Bear's a little wordy and very down-to-the-middle Christian. Mo Willems is the gentleman. He does good work with the elephant and piggy books.

They have a real rhythm to them. And you're burning through pages. There's one exchange on each page. So my son will think we've read a really long story, but it's not quite that long. That's always the balancing act that you're trying to do is. So like your, your,

so your son is like, daddy, I want to go to bed. And you're like, no, we got to figure out what happens to this piggy. Right. Yeah, exactly.

Uh, but yeah, there, there's some good ones. They, they've done good work and any that are like that there's one um that's like pat the puppy and pat the kitty that uh i think were created like before children's uh books were invented because they're so dumb um it's clearly like the evolutionary like missing link between whatever they did before uh the written word and like our modern children books children's books because it's just like sally has a nice puppy you have a nice puppy pet sally's puppy and it sucks the

drawings are uh me quality and I had never drawn. Me qual, huh? Yeah, me qual. The kids who Sally from page to page looks like a totally different person. Cool. Yeah, they suck. Dude, Mo Willems is an interesting looking fellow. He looks like, I'm just going to send this in the chat. You know when you watch a sci-fi film about some dystopia,

and then there's an image of, like, and that was the man who conceived the Matrix or whatever. And it's just like they're not a character. It's just like an image. Mo Willems has the vibe of the architect of the Matrix. Whoa, Mo. Holy shit. Yeah, that's a dude that has definitely ascended

a different level of consciousness than the rest of us. Oh, yeah, absolutely. He's like, that's why I write kids' books books bro like you're fucking around with this history of nonsense you got to get them young okay he's sort of the angley of uh children's books in that like some of his book like he has this elephant piggy thing that's like real quick rhythmic like back and forth but then he has like a bunch of different books that are really good executions yeah he's just like he doesn't have a specific style. And his way of looking at dystopia,

very Wong Kar Wai as well, I would say, you know, shout out to him. Oh, for sure, yeah. He kind of looks like Jurgen Klopp for any football fans out there, the manager of Liverpool. He's got the same vibe. I'm sure, like, if you talked to him, he would probably talk to you for four hours about how, like, you see the elephant

is representative of the earth and the piggy is global warming yeah okay but one that uh that still slaps that like shouldn't but like they've just like created some strange alchemy is good night moon it's like they oh yeah the drawings are fine

but like just the world that they've created with the words and the like rhythm and all, all that is so, uh, undeniable, but it, it's really,

I don't know why. Um, it's my favorite. Yeah. It's my favorite Simpsons bit when Christopher Walken. Good night. Boom. Good night.

Boom. Good night. Come closer, children. Children. Come closer. Uh, Joey,

what is something you think is underrated? So something that I think is underrated, I'm going to say, I'm going to say video game soundtracks. And my reason for that is they're really good to write to. They're really good to listen to. They're just like great background music. And it's also just great music. And like the reason I'm saying that is I'm somebody where like if you would have asked me what my favorite music was in, you know, like high school, middle school, probably early college.

I would say like, oh, video that embarrassing that that's my favorite? That people are like, yo, you listen to the Beatles? And I'm like, no, I listen to Nobo Uematsu. Yeah. So then I steered away from that. But then, especially over COVID, this week, the Spotify year in review things came out. And I checked my Spotify year in review. And it was like entirely just like jazz covers of jrpg soundtracks all like my top five uh so i was like i'm just

gonna i'm just gonna step into my truth and be like yeah video game soundtracks rule the uh specific shout out uh a specific shout out the undertale uh they did a five-year anniversary undertale uh symphony that you can watch on youtube that's like three hours long and it's just like a full orchestra doing the undertale soundtrack and it's great you should check it out i write to it all the time recently i think because some someone posted on reddit the entire jet set radio soundtrack oh yeah yeah the composer uh hideki naganuma like his, his, all of his, I think it's on Spotify, too. And I was like, damn, this shit's on Spotify.

Like, great. Normally, it's, like, some shit you'd have to watch YouTube, like, rips of. Yeah. But I respected the Jet Set Radio soundtrack because that thing was wild. Well, it's also just shit, like, something I love about video game music is when you see those composers that, like, clearly put way more work into it than they really needed to for like the marble madness and yes soundtrack or something where it's like oh i never got paid for that actually yeah i made 30 on that and i right uh and i composed that on a calculator or whatever they did give me a nintendo power glove as compensation so i feel it was a fair trade oh i mean in 1989 that's like

that's big money you could you could trade that for a car if you wanted to oh yeah i mean we saw the movies the kids were the kids were traveling across country to get their hands on that thing oh yeah i mean i would if i look if there was a power glove and i'd drive to florida to get it i would drive to florida get that power glove is there a classic game that is like super underrated in terms of like how great its soundtrack is? By the general public, not amongst the video game music aficionados. I mean, where do I start?

Sonic is really good, right? Don't people really like Sonic? Oh, Sonic Rush, especially. People love that one. Sonic is good. Michael Jackson, uncredited, composed a bunch of music for Sonic the Hedgehog 3. So it's legit.

I didn't know that. Yeah, Michael Jackson. It was uncredited. And you can listen to Strangers in Moscow. It's like the Sonic the Hedgehog 3 ice level clearly became Strangers in Moscow. If you listen to both of them, it's like the same melody. And it's clear that was like the proto version of that. Um,

and like, there's a bunch of other, it's like, I'm sure there's like YouTube rabbit holes that you can go down to that are like the casino level thing became bad or whatever, you know, we're not bad, but stuff like that.

Um, but I would say like, let's see things that I go back to. Uh, okay. So this is going to be underrated because OG PlayStation startup noise from damn good stuff so this is going to be like

this is going to be underrated just because I don't think a ton of people know about it but I want to shout it out there's like an indie game that came out a couple years ago called Far Lone Sails that's like it's just this really cool like dystopian kind of post-apocalyptic game and the soundtrack to it it's like you can find it on Spotify it's just some of the best like symphonic background

music you could possibly listen to it's just like you know it's like dystopian but positive and it's like that's something like that was my 2019 Spotify year in review was just Far Lone Sails songs you know a thousand times or whatever damn i feel like you're gonna turn a lot of people on to uh to the the magic of video game

soundtracks here um yeah just like give it a shot give it to that and pro wrestlers at professional wrestling entrance music and video game soundtracks i feel like yeah that's all you need one sound away your cardi b's. Yeah, don't need that. Just swap it out for this Metroid soundtrack. Yeah, yeah. What about Wet Ass Pussy? Yeah, Wet Ass Pussy.

What about Wet Ass PlayStation? Hey, hey. I don't know. The Street Fighter soundtrack is one where I feel like you could play and I'm like, I know what level that is. There are certain things like that that I feel like are more play and I'm like I know what level that is there's certain things like that that I feel like are more just drilled into my mind

than sort of compositions and I'm like that was actually an objectively really pleasant thing to listen to that's where I will take these suggestions from you Joey and go for it like the guile level theme goes with literally anything it's just good shit yeah yeah yeah

hell yeah hell yes what is something you think is overrated brother now that i've been in quarantine for nine months i'm gonna say leaving my house to do things is very overrated uh i'm really loving yeah i might be a hot take i really love just sitting at home i don't know i wake up early and do yoga it's like you know doing like you know doing zoom birthday parties and stuff like that and stuff over zoom is kind of weird but like i i don't miss driving places like i don't miss those commutes i don't miss uh you know like i uh i don't mind you know doing grub hub and then picking it up from some place and

like not eating in the restaurant or whatever it's's like, oh, those are things that like I don't miss. Yeah, it turns out. It's yeah. It's something about like sort of just kind of read aligning your schedule and like with your lifestyle and things like that. Like when you've eliminated the commute or just the stress. Like I feel like maybe we're similar in that,

like having to get out the door is just stressful. And that not having that there, I'm like, I have so much mental bandwidth to like think of other things rather than like, what time is it? Oh, I got 15 minutes. Got to wash. Fuck, I need to eat.

Ugh, fuck it. I'll eat something. Like all that stuff, it takes up my mind so much to the point where I like, I feel sort of a bit of, just from the lack of commute, a little bit more like just space in my mind to problem solve like yeah yeah dude like i like like i put like uh i mean when i had to commute places

for jobs i would like put my cell phone like in my bathroom on my sink and the second i looked at that got out of the shower i would turn myself on and be like oh shit it's 8 15 if i don't leave by 8 20 i'm gonna have to like yeah whatever so i'll brush my teeth in the car i guess you know and then like yeah so it's like that stuff i don't miss at all so that i haven't eaten breakfast while taking a shower in so long it's uh yeah yeah yeah it's like that kind of no one knew what to do with that jack we're all just kind of picturing you eating a burrito in a shower yeah and it. And it's a messy breakfast. It's not a power bar. It's like you're eating like French toast.

Just egg yolks all over his chest. Yeah. Oh, God. That's why he didn't shower. You're eating like an egg McMuffin. You're eating an egg McMuffin that you ordered extra runny. Well, the eggs are already wet. So you're really just.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. But I mean, I guess I was thinking about that like when you said that I paused cause I was like wait are you a genius? is that a thing? that's like a life hack in like this brutalist like fucking

high output productivity nonsense culture where it's like you gotta eat breakfast when you shit and then again when you shower right you put on your hoodie backwards with your like lunch stuffed in it so you can just like drop it down while you're exactly yeah yeah it's fill up your hoodie with potato salad yeah like for me the dystopian life hack was like i started to bring those like those those tooth like flossing picks in my glove box in my car so that it's like

okay i don't have to floss when i'm in my bathroom i can do it while i'm driving yeah if anybody would look at me weird while flossing while driving i'd just be like yeah this is my life and then your steering wheel starts to smell bad and it has a little flex of white stuff all over it that's the one problem yeah but i'm like but i'm just like hey that's like that's a price to pay for corporate efficiency maybe to make these dollars for my boss yeah i need to watch my car oh wait that's the inside of the windshield oh god look that's the worst i told you about i told i told you about the extra eight dollars i made on that PA gig, right? That's how I make the big bucks. Exactly.

Stuff like that. Maybe I might be overestimating how gross other people's flossing experiences are, but mine is a thrill mess. It's real. Oh, yeah. I mean, I floss every day, so it's not too bad. It's like I floss every morning. It looks like that scene in Kingpin whenandy quaid flosses for the first time and they're like oh my god is that a chicken a whole chicken wing on the piece of floss uh

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of the progressive movement. And this is just sort of the battle that we need. AOC and Joe Manchin. So Joe Manchin, one of the first shots he fired was over the summer when he responded to the uprisings with, as mentioned up top, defund comma my butt. Yeah. The comma is interesting. Also, I'm going to chime in and say that, like, if government funding was going toward his butt, then I agree we should probably not spend money on that. Right. Good point, Joe Manchin. Golden bidets. yeah yeah i don't know what the comma was for i think maybe because he's saying like rather than defund my butt he's like defund my ass right like we ain't defunding

so i just like that you know he he liked to keep his his dumb centrist takes uh grammatically accurate no i think that what it was was it's like he's taking defund and then comma and then he's referring to aoc as his butt so he's like defund my butt oh yeah so he's misunderstanding of course it was see you hate to see this kind of shit but i mean this is the thing that's going to be the fucking the the you know culture war for the next four years uh or and beyond is people just being like hey democrats wake the fuck up you know how like the the republicans shed a layer and now they look like this well the left has done that too and now this is what it looks like it's more progressive and it's more interested in actual equity and equality rather

than like i don't know like as long as like the news isn't overwhelming i'm gonna just take that as a barometer for how well everyone else is and yeah defund my butt was you know the first fucking shot then like a few days ago he's he was i don't know why i think because again aoc has many things to say especially as people come after her in the squad for being progressives. He said, quote, I don't know the young lady. I really don't. I never met her.

I'm understanding. She's not that active with her bills or in committee. She's more active on Twitter than anything else. OK, so I don't know the way to try and be very dismissive there. That's coming from the guy who endorsed Susan Collins, you know, to be like, no, man's she's the real deal she's the real spineless deal y'all you want to vote for her she's just like me birds of a feather and this thing now i mean his record even further back on multiple occasions joe mansion has refused to back the equality act which is you know adding protections for gender identity and sexual orientation to like civil rights act fair

housing act he's like nah i don't know like he's just always you know he's just a shitty fucking senator uh who's claims democrat and you're like i don't really i don't know who this man is so aoc comes back tweeting because this is it it's like this man is he lives in a glass mansion and you're throwing rocks literally mansion his name is pronounced mansion joe mansion she said quote i find it amusing when politicians try to diminish the seriousness of our policy work movement organizing and grassroots front fundraising to quote she just tweets as though serious politics is only done by begging corporate ceos for money through wax sealed envelopes delivered by raven i mean, she's so good.

Thorough. Yeah, something I love about AOC is that she don't half-step that shit. She goes straight for the throat every time. Just right at it. It's definitely a if you step to the queen, you best not miss kind of thing.

It's just like, oh, Joe Manchin. Joe Manchin's coming in with defund my butt and aoc is just like bam yeah well because like that's like the emerging energy in the party right unfortunately on the right it's just like who's has the most vitriolic racist take you know like that's how you start accelerating your career or like people like oh you check that fucking racist person out awesome but on the left you see more and more people are rallying around people who are like talking to these older politicians like they're their fucked up stepdad like yo shut the fuck up bro you don't know what the fuck you're talking about i'm not doing real work asshole why don't you try it and like they're like oh my god like they just don't like

generationally just like establishment republicans are having trouble with this these trumpers are like i don't know like they don't they don't respect the bullshit like we do it's i don't know how to handle it and i think there's something that people need again we keep saying this look at that energy like these people the squad and the other like sort of grassroots organizing type activists who are entering politics they're the ones who understand what is going on the most and are speaking the most like how normal people are and that's what's resonating rather than just like this you know dad joke shit of defund my butt and whatever you know lukewarm political takes he has so that's it's all it's all something else right now and this again the battle continues because obama had to weigh in uh with his awesome take about you know oh you know defund the police is too

flashy and confusing for people whatever the fuck it was basically trying to throw cold water on that and it's like you know how about you know you didn't do shit about any of this stuff either so why don't you have a seat too sir uh i remember in like ferguson what was going on there what was happening to activists then and you're like so let's not let's not get too into this so yeah i think it's also time for people to recognize like if there are certain values you have and you're not seeing that reflected in a party you got to speak the fuck up or we need to talk about where the fuck we're going with this shit well yeah i want to say i want to say two things on that um one something that i really appreciate about aoc you know outside of like you, she's like closer to our age than a hundred years old.

Right. You know, she's like young. It's like, you know, her and a lot of the squad are like gamers. I feel like, you know, I feel like they can relate to my experiences so much more than your average politician probably can. Hey, Ron Johnson, man. He knows a little bit about video games. Wait, what did Ron Johnson do? No, I'm just saying like just comparatively, like truly.

Yeah. These people actually do have lived experiences like we do. And I think that she is so good at like breaking down. It's like breaking down policies and complex issues in a way like over Instagram stories in a way that we understand easily. You know, it's like the importance of Medicare for all, the Green New Deal and all that. easily you know it's like the importance of medicare for all the green new deal and all that and then um like uh kind of on your thought about obama um and what obama said something like i really appreciate right now uh and i'm curious what you guys think about this is like i feel like we're at a point right now where politicians can just normal suck instead of being like i don't

know what mustard is and i refuse to learn like it's like like i like something that i appreciate about you know like it sucks that obama said that and like it's total bullshit but it's like oh this feels like a real political conversation and not like a four seasons landscaping you're running you know the three stooges are running your campaign bullshit you know it's like oh this is like there's value in having this conversation well right there is a way to look at it like if it if that's what it is but he i think it's all about more about how polling works and what is going to keep democrats in power rather than looking at the issue of defunding police because again in his administration there was not much interest to address any of these

things so it's hard so looking at that i'm like well do you mean that because you're like guys i'm with this defund the police shit too but we gotta fucking message this a little bit differently it just seems like he's going like guys don't don't play with that like it's like kids in a yard with like running with scissors it's like yeah don't do that don't do that and i'm not going to explain much more than but i feel that there is a conversation there that can explain things better so for people who are just like just reacting to the the mere mention of the words defund the police uh like to find a way to get through to those people but i don't think it's a platform

or a policy goal that needs to be abandoned which i feel like is sort of like the two-way like he's kind of having it he's walking a line with that comment too because it can be seen as one or the other but essentially the take is always like that that rhetoric hurts the democrats right i feel like the democrats need to or the progressive movement needs to kind of have a reckoning that obama is not on the progressive Democrat side. He is the establishment. And I think both sides like the fact that he is this iconic figure of progress. But when it comes down to the policies that he actually advocates for, a lot of the time they're more in line with Joe Manchin than they are with AOC and like the the things the kind of common sense things that you know AOC and Bernie Sanders and the squad like talk about um so it's

just I feel like that's going to prevent like it would be easy for people on the progressive side to just be like yeah but like Obama said no so like let's look elsewhere because he is popular and he's like the only cool politician uh like according to the mainstream media right yeah i mean i think that there is something too of like i mean like miles you're talking about this a second ago about like the um you know there is kind of like you know like a little bit of a uh you, a war brewing between the in the Democratic Party between the progressive wing and the more centrist wing. And yeah, but I don't know. It's like, I mean, AOC said this a lot of like every like hard progressive politician that ran like one, you know, in the 2020 election. you know, I think that that's kind of the hope is that like the Joe Manchin's of the world get voted out and more AOCs get voted in that like, listen to this shit and like actually care about

things like Medicare for all defunding the police and like progressive policies. And that's just hard because like it's this, this whole battle is going to continue until progressives either create a third party or take over the democratic party like Trumpers did. I don't see the latter happening. Um, it's just too deeply intent entrenched in like this corporatocracy model of private business you know holding hands with government and things like that and the policies that progressives are calling for essentially upset that relationship between big business and and in politics so it's like it would have to be some kind of massive philosophical shift for like the

tom perez's of the world to have to kind of begin to be like oh yeah like maybe we do need to do what's right for people rather than like we need to do the thing that looks good that looks seems like it's doing right for people but it's also hooking up the private sector too let's not get it fucked up like right because there's no policy that is ever going to be like yo we don't give a fuck about your profits anything that anything that does that that says hey we're going to put people over your fucking profits as an industry or company shit is never happening this is never happening and i think that's the big that's like that last step that i think a lot of progressives are like we have to shift into that world where we're saying, fuck your profits because we need to worry about people.

I don't know when that how that shifts unless, you know, progressives can be organized enough and leftists and everyone else saying, like, we're not going to fucking vote with you anymore. Like what you're doing, like we're telling you these people need rights. These people need restitution. These people need reconciliation. All these things, you're not giving it to them them so what the fuck good is it to support you like what what that's not what i'm as a person i'm looking for so i need to find where that is because it's not here um and i think that i don't know i mean like we'll see what that evolution looks like but the tensions are going to simmer because i think again the last four years have made a lot more people interested in politics there are going to

be plenty of people who are going to check right the fuck out on january 20th i mean guaranteed but there's also i think they're underestimating the amount of people who are like hold on man this place is really fucked up actually yeah yeah um when it it might just be like the bubble that i live in of you know los angeles and comed. And I feel like more of my friends are like that than people that are going to be like January 20th, let's start brunching or whatever. You know, it's like, yeah,

I think that it's like, I definitely am feeling just this, uh, sentiment among my peers of like, yeah, fuck this shit. We should all, you know,

nobody should get in a million dollars worth of debt for school and health insurance and stuff, you know, it doesn't make sense. Yeah. You know,'s you know that's the the knock on wood hope yeah what i think yeah there's a there's a generation of politicians that were able to like go to college and only have one job and they're in office and they they're they're like well why can't why are they complaining rather than looking at millennials and gen Z and be like, yo, these people got fucking crushed. Uh, like, and they came out of college, they can barely fucking get anything. Uh, and they don't realize the mindset is completely different.

Our, our lived experience is almost antithetical to theirs in, in the sense of like what kind of upward financial, social mobility there is for people and how the middle class is just like a fucking like mirage at this point for anybody so it's it's it's like people are kind of looking at it from very different places does seem like we're headed in a direction where like people who are 40 and under are more friendly to socialist policy and like the i don't know it's just like the more simple straightforward and consistent set of facts to advocate for, whereas the people who are on the establishment side don't really have a reason to back them up, where they have a thousand different reasons and not just one consistent set of core beliefs. different reasons and not just one consistent like set of core beliefs uh and like in in the case of the establishment democrats they have the uh appearance of those beliefs they have the they claim that they believe those things but that they're just being practical and uh working

within the system but i do i do feel like i don't know i'm hopeful that more and more people are going to kind of come to terms with the fact that the the current system is completely fucked and you know the the more that politicians uh speak like aoc and you know in in ways that are just like humans speak uh and not like the establishment democrats were people who have worked jobs that weren't given to them you know right that's the you know that's the thing it's like just get stop get these people out of office who have had any kind of experience that is like out of touch with the 99 of the country because right now our system only works for roughly 2%. Right. Let's take a step back into the world of Four Seasons landscaping.

This dude is still the president, and he is in full-blown denial mode over the results of the election, as he has been. As we mentioned on yesterday's episode, Barr came out and was like, there's not fraud, man. But his supporters left. Without him standing down or admitting the reality of the situation, his supporters are in a very dangerous place.

Yeah, because the rhetoric is the if you if you're a person on the right saying that the election was secure and there was no fuckery you're a traitor and it's treason and people are taking that very literally uh to the point where you know like georgia right has been a huge fucking focal point uh for a lot of this for many different things but especially with you know between brian kemp being like fucking public enemy number one and even the secretary of state they're they're all republicans because they're like no our elections were secure and it was fair and there was no nonsense like we it was clean they've all been basically put in in the crosshairs of you know the the trumpers

and now uh the guy who heads up georgia's voting system this guy gabriel sterling he had a press conference because he's a republican as well but he keeps seeing all the shit that's happening to other republicans who are just doing their job i mean like yo objectively we're just we just we know like an election has to be like free safe, or whatever, as much as possible, asterisk there. But we're still getting attacked, and no one is doing anything about it. So this is just a little bit of him out there trying just to yell at the media to condemn the rhetoric and try and get some kind of defense for him and other Republicans who are just merely doing their job, you know, facilitating elections. This is elections. This is the backbone of democracy. And all of you who have not said a damn word are complicit in this. I'm going to do my best to keep it together because it has all gone too far.

All of it. Joe DeGeneva today asked for Chris Krebs, a patriot who ran CISA, to be shot. A 20-something tech in Gwinnett County today has death threats and a noose put out saying he should be hung for treason because he was transferring a report on batches from an EMS to a county computer so he could read it. It has to stop. So he goes on. He says the president, he goes, you have not condemned any of this language. And he's like, senators, where the fuck the fuck are you like these people are getting threats a guy who just is a tech for dominion is getting death threats the uh secretary of state like they're his wife's getting you know

you can you can only imagine the harassment that's happening to all these people who are named and then the problem is trump then doubled down by like tweeting like sort of retweeting a video of sterling's um uh press conference and then just tweets rigged election show signatures and envelopes expose the massive voter fraud in georgia what is secretary of state and brian camp afraid of they know what we'll find like this is only creating more and more anger like on in a to a group of people who are already so pissed off because everything they've been fed through the TV they watch is saying the thing is being stolen right now. And Trump actually won. What's going on?

This is so unfair. And I just don't it doesn't I'm not I don't know how it deescalates for anyone at this point because Trump is has no he's showing no sign of like letting up on this tactic and i don't think i haven't seen any other gop you know uh politicians actually step up to say yo this is fucked up now like you're you're gonna get something you're gonna get people in this party that we all claim to be a part of killed but i don't think it doesn't matter it's a fucking death cult so it's just it's freaky shit yeah and there's uh you know he pardoned michael flynn earlier uh in the week and michael flynn or was it last week that he pardoned michael flynn or earlier i think it was i mean it's like it all yeah was it which time years ago i don't know

yeah at some point in the blur since the election, he pardoned Michael Flynn, and Michael Flynn used that opportunity to now call for, he retweeted a call for basically Trump to take over via martial law, temporarily suspend the constitutional and civilian control of the federal elections, and suspend the the press um and then

you know said if that doesn't happen there's going to be violence unseen uh since the civil war so like basically threatening massive terroristic violence uh on on behalf of the president which and the mainstream media seems to just be like, yeah, but he's too dumb to like do anything about it. But that's I mean, look at how the voting officials in Georgia are being treated. These people may be not not the greatest operators in the world, but they're deadly serious and, and you know capable of mailing bombs to people and putting nooses outside people's houses and like that's it's i i feel like it's just sort of disappeared for the most part uh from the mainstream conversation because it's gone so

far in this direction of uh you know lou dobbs and a couple other uh opinion-based shows are are just going off in this weird counterfactual universe and it's not like people aren't really taking it seriously but the people who watch it are ready to start killing us, basically. A couple of things to that. One, so it's like Bill Barr is a great example of like Bill Barr, the dude that like kneecapped the Mueller report is all of a sudden a liberal extremist because he just said that like, yeah, even if there was fraud, it wouldn't be enough to like change the results of the election. Like he didn't even say Biden.

I mean, he just said like if there was fraud, it wouldn't be enough to like change the results of the election like he didn't even say biden i mean he just said like if there was fraud it wouldn't be enough to change anything and like that was enough to make him into like a liberal extremist and then um the other thing on that i mean i i think that the hope is that like uh you know i mean that it's that this is you know an emperor's new clothes situation for trump where like you know i mean we've seen a lot of stories after the election of you know people taking down the trump flags and people kind of being like yeah i'm not with that anymore and it's like there are you know definitely some people that are on the extreme extreme side of it that are like still down hopefully the ones that are still with it tire themselves out yeah i mean i don't know maybe that's that's uh update doug ducey is a uh the

governor of arizona is now a opponent to uh democracy according to the trump administration because he certified arizona's win yeah when he put the fucking president on mute when he was calling him as he was certifying the do you see that clip no dude uh so i didn't see that but that's dope that's dope i mean it's it's speculative but in a previous interview he said that at a certain point he was getting so many like he talked to the president enough that hail to the chief is his like ringtone when the president calls him uh and that's how he knows just audibly that this is a different call it's coming from the land of orange mushrooms and so when he was. At the desk certifying the elections.

In the middle of him signing. You hear the fucking. Like in his phone. And he's like hold on one second. Pulls his phone out and he's like. Just silent that shit. And then continues to sign it. And everyone was like yo.

If we're lining up past anecdotal things. That was the president calling him mid-certification. He said, nah, fuck out of here, bro. I got to do this shit. Wow. So, yeah, that would have them feeling some type of way. I will say this about Bill Barr, though. He did reveal on Tuesday that he had actually made Durham a special counsel, a Robert Mueller-level special council to investigate the origins of the russia

investigation yeah and that was like the kind of thing that uh people were like what the fuck is this he didn't tell anybody and on i think a lot of people are looking at it now it's like first of all durham had his investigation we talked about it over the summer they found nothing right that's why they were just very casual like yeah anyway we concluded there wasn't really much anything there so let's let's just not talk about it anymore um and i remember the trump administration and they were all like you see we're gonna we've got this investigation going just wait till you see so bill barr doing this they're thinking like okay he's just trying to like appease the president by saying like i still got it don't worry there's a there we're gonna get

to the bottom of this even when biden's president even though during that investigation we've been spending a lot of time on we found nothing uh while also saying like there was no fraud so please remember bill barr and your fuckery calendars uh that he'll never be taken off of so is he just so basically he just did something an empty gesture to appease the president. But like that investigation is not going to continue in any. No, because the new attorney general can be like, no, we're good on this. Thank you, sir. Thank you for your time. This special counsel investigation has been concluded because also it's just redundant at this point.

He Durham did this investigation and found fucking nothing. So what's the point of doing it aside from convincing the president that you're still a good boy to call a spade a spade but there's like so much focus on arizona and georgia it's like i mean like the black and brown vote flipped those states like the black vote was very key in flipping georgia the native vote was very key in flipping arizona the navajo nation and i think the apache res uh the the districts that are within those voted like 93 for biden you know so like it's that's race it's like racist shit it's just like let's just call it that you know exactly it's a you know fear of you know the the country becoming less white because it is and it was inevitable you know that this this is what that's what's happening but yeah we'll see i i

can't imagine you know what kind of fuckery they're going to try and enact in some of these legislatures going into these next couple years because remember obama kicked off all kinds of next level shit so i don't know what what's on the menu for 2020 and beyond or 2021 and beyond but we can only wait and see but we gotta stay vigilant all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about how we're relaxing after all this bad news. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.

President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer.

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and now novelist, Julianne Hough. I feel really whole. I feel like the last few years, I've really unraveled a lot, which is part of what this book is about. And I really feel so content, which is a word that used to scare the crap out of me. And I love that word now. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life.

It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything. You're allowed to be doing this. We

passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown

in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County rebels will stay the Boone County rebels with the image of the biscuits. It's right here in black and white in the prints.

They lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. Segregation academies. When civil rights said that we need

to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. dumb but still like trying and revealing the fissures of our democracy uh if all that has you stressed out uh pepsi has your answer oh yeah they're coming all the way through

yeah pepsi is a self-care brand i want to say just before i've always talked about this yeah pepsi is a self-care brand first beverage company second uh they tweeted something uh wednesday morning saying like hey y'all like it looks like a fun little box it says hello has like a little pepsi like two candles you don't know what it says it says quote when the stress of the holiday finally settles treat yourself to the perfect pepsi spa experience you deserve it tag a friend who all anyway so you got this is some shit you buy it's a fucking giveaway we get it viral marketing let's we all know this is they do this so we talk about it uh good job but we will always talk about this

viral marketing stuff because at the end of the day we are trash consumers um but this one is interesting because i mean look we've had like kfc logs that smell like kfc when you put in the fireplace like we have aroma scented things that kind of whatever makes sense this spa kit i just want to say this includes an exfoliating cola scented pepsi sugar scrub a refreshing pepsi blue face mask and fizzy fun pepsi cola scented bath bomb bomb they're all saying that this is all like inspired by the flavor and refreshingness of Pepsi Cola. So I don't know if your idea of relaxing is to be submerged in a tub full of Pepsi. Yeah.

But I'm just having trouble getting my mind around that one. The only other time that the idea of being submerged in Pepsi really enters the collective consciousness is when you put a tooth in the Pepsi and it dissolves it like in a matter of hours, like it's the dip from who framed Roger Rabbit. So like the fact that they think that this is a good idea that people like want to have the feeling that they're being submerged in Pepsi is amazing. I applaud. I've always been a fan of Pepsi marketing

ever since the documents were revealed of their logo redesign, where it was like the millennial, next millennial. When they got scammed? When they got scammed for like $20 million logo design. That just changed the line to like two inches. Speaking about efficiency from earlier, I mean,

eating breakfast while taking a shower, taking a bath in Pepsi seems like a good way to like, you know, it's like you don't have time to drink a Pepsi, but you also need to take a bath because like you got to get to your job, you know? And also you want to flex on people. You got a tub for that. You want to flex on people by being covered in sticky soda

a sugar face scrub like if if i get sugar on my face i expect to have like acne because sugar is not a thing that cleans your skin it is like a thing that is sticky and creates a film that you can't get off your skin yeah but but they you their sugar scrubs are a thing that is sticky and creates a film that you can't get off your skin. Yeah, but their sugar scrubs are a thing, though. Not just like if we take the words sugar scrub. Oh, they are? Yeah, like any DIY stuff, it's fine. Because that was always my first thing.

I'm like, why don't you put sugar on your face? Because all I have is like my mom when I was going through puberty being like, all those sodas are going to give you pimples. Like sort of logic in my brain. So just had to debunk that just for sugar, sugar scrub gang out there. I want to pitch a tagline for that product. And the tagline is y'all like getting attacked by bees. Dude, I mean, Jack, I think,

would you feel any different if this box was rebranded with your favorite pepsi cola product mountain dew not dipped in dew i dipped in dew yeah i mean dipped in dew you're really drawing the comparison to dip because isn't wasn't dip from who framed roger abbott like a yellowish greenish liquid it was like that green bubble like yeah it was like toxic wasty yeah yeah but like so Mountain Dew already evokes that I've always been more of a fan of Mountain Dew for internal use as opposed to topical use got it I've tried it in a number of different contexts it's not a great topical solution can you absorb caffeine through your skin

uh I believe so so i wonder like if you legit filled up a bathtub with actual mountain dew like two liter bottles like you know could you get a little a little hyped off your bath so you you were like i got a long day today i'm gonna need a little a little little pepsi twist to keep me going on this. Yeah. But I don't have time to drink it. Yeah. I don't think you can actually absorb things as easily through your skin as people think. But SLC Punk, remember that guy had all those acid tabs in his pocket and then ran through the sprinklers? Well, acid is the one thing that I think you can.

Yeah. Well, that one holds. Well, acid is the one thing that I think you can. Yeah. Well, that one, that one holds. Like alcohol. There's always a rumor that you can like bathe in alcohol and get really drunk. And I think that's not true.

I did some research into it. I just want to shout out any listeners that are like scientists. I really want to know the exact like how many how long do you have to sit in a bathtub full of Pepsipsi for it to equal like one sip of pepsi right like what is the math oh wow it's like that's like i want to know the breakdown of like that and i hope the joe bynum administration will actually the funds to this kind of research thank you this other crap yeah yeah come on bynum yeah yeah yo joe mansion defund my butt and use that money to fund pepsi baths yeah pepsi bat pepsi bath research come on come on yeah the one soda i would like to take a bath in is sprite remix from the early aughts that's a that's a flavor i miss yeah i was

originally uh formulated as something to bathe in, and they just happened to notice that it tasted good. I think the R&D process was it was supposed to be a Lysol scent, and then it became a detergent scent, and then when that didn't work out, it just became a Sprite flavor. There are so many things that are made that way, where they're like, actually, it didn't work that way, but we noticed that it did melt the chocolate bars in our pocket, so now we have microwaves.

Yeah, like microwaves. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like silly putty was originally supposed to be like a stealth knife that you could make out of putty to murder Stiles. Not that, but something like that. It's like the CIA. It was like, yeah. Just put a little bit of a lighter underneath,

and it will harden to steel. Yeah, it'll harden up and then just form into a blade. Actually, I want to drop in another underrated thing since we're talking about soda. Virgil's Zero Calorie Root Beer from Trader Joe's is like a serviceable root beer. You'd think because it's zero sugar and zero calories, it wouldn't be good. But it's dope as hell. It's good stuff. Okay. I love Virgil's. Virgil's root beer

is the fucking shit. There's Virgil's, like, zero calories, zero sugar, so it's, like, not... Daniel's dropping it in the chat. Virgil's is the best root beer on the market straight up. Yeah, I mean... So, like, let's just give it up for Virgil's. I would bathe in Virgil's. Like, there's no caffeine in it, so I'm not getting anything out of it other than the joy of bathing in virgils okay i'm down

virgils hit us up i'll i'll do that for a marketing campaign but you got to keep the virgils flowing because i've oh man they're cream soda too yeah hit us up this is not already sponsored content for i know right good one miles uh fuck virgils yeah it is not already sponsored content for i know right good one miles uh virgils yeah it's sponsored content for me as i put on my virgil's hat yeah i know like damn he got us yeah uh that's i go from podcast to podcast and promote virgil it's like no but think about it he promoted fucking garfield olive garden virgils we like look around, we've been like Kaiser Sozade. I mean, I am wearing a t-shirt that's got Garfield's picture on it and says Medicare for all.

So, you know, I'm repping everything. I'm repping all the stuff. Brand is strong. And then I just wanted to say for Pepsi, one of my favorite Pepsi specifics is I went to Washington State University in Eastern Washington. They had an exclusive deal with Coca--cola so like the on the on the university campus you could only buy coca-cola products they didn't have pepsi so drinking pepsi became this act of resistance

so where it's just like yeah fuck your corporate branding really so so for me yeah you know pepsi's part of the resistance hell yeah i mean they always have been ever since that commercial with Kylie Jenner, I think. Yeah, Kylie Jenner. Yeah, where she stopped the riot police with a Pepsi. So like, yeah. So good for you, Kylie Jenner. Yeah, it's the resistance, Pepsi. Also, if you guys are curious

about Biden's cabinet, check out Pod Save America. Somebody tweeted that to us as a helpful helpful hint is joke uh is joke let us know and finally let's talk about melania's christmas decorations because people are talking about these for a number of reasons first of all it's the first christmas since melania was caught on tape saying who gives a fuck about christmas uh because thanks to trump people can say who gives a fuck about christmas again instead of just who gives a fuck about the holidays

thank you thank you mr trump on christmas was about being able to openly hate christmas that's yeah christmas reclaiming um but also i i feel like we should acknowledge and say straight up it is entirely her right to say who gives a fuck about Christmas. The whole idea that we are judging the First Lady's Christmas decorations every year is so bygone

and backwards that we're like, how'd she do this year? Just get a fucking interior decorator like what what are you doing then other people just be like i don't know this is some celebrity designer did it this year and fuck yeah yeah uh but we have to tie it to the first lady and her uh domestic skills yes yes yeah do we think that she like did she actually come up with this design or do we think that she just approved this actually come up with this design or do we think

that she just approved this design i'm sure she just like why is this a story why is it why is it even tied to her like why do we just be like here is the brand that we hired to design the white house christmas uh you can you know hire them for your weird it's just our shit version of royal royals watching yeah yeah like it's like oh what's you know it's our shitty royals is Melania who gives a fuck about Christmas Trump and being like who gives a fuck about my decorations come peep them

I don't know do these look like urns holding plants I don't know who gives a shit guys I watched episode two and three of the crown and when i tell you that these grown men and women were responding to the king's death like they saw like their loved one had been just been murdered in front of them it is like the wildest thing I've ever seen. Like how people were just like, he,

what this man who was like in his sixties and had one lung and was dying of cancer. They were like acting like JFK had just been assassinated in, in a seat next to them. Oh, shout out to the Royals. Sorry. I interrupted you.

Yeah. Shout out to JFK. I think there was a JFK ornament or anything, right? But just going off what Miles was saying, I feel like a lot of that stuff, it's just like there are built-in fluff pieces within politics that give ideally politicians, the president, just easy bumps in approval ratings. You know, things like Halloween, things like the Easter egg hunt on the way house lawn and stuff like that and like i think that like christmas decorations are definitely one of those things where it's just like oh it gives like it gives like the the the first family just an excuse to be like hey we're just like you guys or whatever and uh you know i agree that it's uh i think that more and more you know especially under

the trump administration we're seeing how like it's very dumb that we pay attention to that. Right. Yeah. It's like we're getting to see the seams a little bit because somebody who is an actual like obvious con man entered the office so we can see the seams. Yeah, you always but you always need those like those fluff pieces, though, because it helps like off ramp serious discourse. those like those fluff pieces though because it helps like off-ramp serious discourse like we could talk about the drone use in yemen or yeah have you seen bo obama the new dog oh everyone like oh fuck yeah i mean just just putting myself on blast uh like uh joe biden announced that he's gonna adopt a cat into the white house and it's gonna be the first the first first cat uh since bush since hw bush i think and uh look you could do a lot of stuff and i'm just gonna ignore that and just look at these pictures of the new first cat

very excited yeah so you know mission accomplished by i think that's hell yeah well look you gotta have as long as you know both things are going on just don't exchange one for the other you know what i mean just Just keep following. Oh, I've already exchanged one. It's just like. You're like, nah, I'm fully in Catland right now. It's like, we got a police state, but there's a cat at the helm. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

And just like, oh, wait a second. There's a cat involved. Oh, proceed with the drone strikes. More on that later. This cat is cuddling in a thin blue line blanket. Yeah. Oh, it's like, oh, I'm tucked in k in kitties oh that cat's my problematic fave one thing we have to look forward to uh in the biden administration is how q anon will look at

literally everything the biden family does because yeah just a sampling from the past two Christmases. Last year, the really bland, non-terrifying decorations that Melania put together, there was a dollhouse with numbers on the windows. And that was, according to QAnoners, full of hidden codes, including a countdown at the beginning of December, which was probably just a countdown to Christmas, but they thought it was a countdown till the storm. Yeah. So I think most people call an advent calendar, but anyway, it does make sense. Countdown to Christ.

Yeah. Just like, you know, like do your own research. You know, you, we all, you do the research,

man. Yeah. Uh, and then this year, uh, the first lady is seen in her Christmas videos putting up a ornament of JFK, which set off the QAnon alarm bells, as you were talking about, Joey, because A, JFK Jr. is still alive, and B, he's living under an assumed name in Pittsburgh, and C, he's a Trump ally.

So that was clearly signaling all that when they put up a christmas ornament with his with jfk senior on it uh and clearly was had nothing to do with the fact that it's the 60th anniversary of him being elected to office uh nothing to do with that everything jfk jr's alive he is alive you what a jump uh john reese trumper waven uh at trumper waven on twitter uh showed the picture of her putting the ornament up and said melania trump literally put up jfk as a christmas ornament how many more coincidences exclamation point and then somebody in the comments that by the way that had like 5 000 like like so many likes and this person in the comment said uh that is this year's white house christmas

ornament which is like each year they have an official christmas ornament and that's this year's uh so oh then how many more coincidences even then it's the official oh even more even more so i just want to say just because podcasting is an audio medium uh to everybody listening to this uh we definitely are the hollywood elite casually drinking the blood of infants as we're having this podcast conversation oh yeah i'm mainlining adrenochrome yeah i'm just oh hell hell yeah hell yeah oh they're believing every oh my god they're seeing it they're not oh i'm oh i'm stealing the youth from babies i'm 200 years old but can you imagine all the just amazingly

intricate shit they're going to accuse joe biden of as he's just being like come on jack i mean they're they're already they're already doing it like his uh like he he uh he fractured his foot or something like that recently allegedly because he's yeah allegedly and because he's like wearing a boot q anon people are already because like part of their thing is like oh like if you think about it like all liberal politicians always wear pants that covers their ankle really they're doing it to cover like you know secret like tracking devices because yeah hold on yeah he broke his left foot my left foot daniel day lewis in a boot dos boot left boot dos boot about nazis leftism socialism joe biden is the fourth fuhrer preach preach got it got him boom got binen again yeah i i don't know how many more coincidences we

need to point out you guys you know what happened a boot and jfks and there was a countdown come on guys uh who's naive now uh who's naive now yeah Joey, it's been so fun having you on the Daily Zeitgeist, man. Where can people find you and follow you? Yeah, this is super fun. Thanks for having me. You can find me on Twitter at JoeyTainment. You can find me on Instagram at JoeyClift

with like five I's. If you check out my social media, you can watch a video of me eating $300 worth of Olive Garden lasagna with my bare hands like Garfield. It's very gross and not an efficient way to eat lasagna. But yeah, that's the thing. Was it hot? Okay, so it was definitely hot when I bought it.

But then I just like, I let it sit out for a little bit. And that was the thing I was the most worried about is like, am I going to burn my face horribly by throwing hot cheese in my face? I mean like so it wasn't, I would say that it was like slightly above lukewarm by the time that I actually did it but that was by choice of me of me being like okay I don't want to scar my face

for this bit. I mean I do I just shouldn't. And is there a tweet or some other work of, oh, sorry, you were going to talk about the Netflix show, I believe. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Just watch Spirit Rangers when it comes out in probably 2022. It's a great show. It's going to be super fun. Everybody check it out. Hey. It's on Netflix.

It's great. Support Native art because that's important to do. Natives are making cool stuff. And then a tweet that I wanted to bring up was by a friend of the show at katie golden um she had a super funny tweet yesterday that was um i'm gonna quote the tweet 30 under 30 lists are fucking stupid there are way more 30 year olds than that

i swear to god and i just like scrolled past that yesterday and it's like oh katie's super funny that's also just good it's like i've never heard of a 30 under 30 list boiled down to like there's more than 30 30 people that are guys yeah just like pardon me miles where can people find you what's tweet you've been enjoying a few tweets i like one is from at very Harry Hill. Harry Hill tweets, imagine if there was a Venmo wrapped because everyone's posting their Spotify wrapped like things right now. And I go, whoa. There are so many times I look at people.

I'm like, you are buying drugs on Venmo and you're not being slick about it. Like you're doing snowflakes and rainbows and shit. And I'm like, okay. Like moons. And I'm like, okay, is that moon rocks? And they're like, how'd you know? I'm you know because you did a fucking moon emoji with a rock fool some of these young kids man they're slipping on venmo uh so i like that tweet um another tweet that i am liking uh it's from at uh from ben acker at bean. It says, fund the non-police?

Is that better? Maybe. It might work better than that. And then another, lastly, tweet that I like, just kind of resonated with me. I think most people, I think millennials as well, just with how our careers evolve to a certain extent. Oh, wait, where the fuck? Okay. And this tweet is from Alexandra Jones at A Rock Jonestown,

tweeting, raise your hand if you didn't start in your field until your 30s. And that is my shit. I did not get my shit together until I was like literally 30. It was like when I started finally moving in a direction

that was like my, what feels like my career before that, all kinds of shit, all like trying to figure it out. And also not a lot of opportunities to get there, but yeah, I've been studying to be a podcaster since fifth grade. That's just,

yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That ham radio. Yeah. And the one room, one room schoolhouse that I went to fifth grade. I'm trying to work into the career of being a professional Garfield impersonator. And look, I just haven't made any headway yet.

My 40s are going to be the year, I think. Yeah, that's when it's all coming together. Yeah, yeah. Just getting lasagna, got a Garfield shirt. It's just, oh, it's all coming together. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. Mr. CEO, speaking of Venmo, tweeted, I hate pending payments.

Just take that shit so I can start my healing process. Oof. And then Brody Reed, Ayo Bro Bro, tweeted, We need to stop using plastic. And as a replacement, I suggest the same wax we use for Babybel cheese. Oh, shit. I do love that. Brody Reed.

I love Brody Reed. Super funny. I like Brody Reed. One of the funniest dudes. do love that brody reed i was a brody reed super funny i like brody reed one of the funniest dudes i love that dude yeah you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on miles. What are we riding into the rest of this Thursday upon? Come on.

We are doing it. Pick Street Fighter. Pick Street Fighter music. Oh, man. We're going to do this track from Bs uh who's for la area producer uh you know this is a track from like 10 years ago it was the first baths track i ever heard and i only got into it because like the video had like this like samurai dude like bleeding in the forest i've been playing a lot of ghosted tsushima so i was like oh i just remember that track in the video

this track is called lovely blood flow by bats and this has got like you know it's like haunted but like very laid back at the same time so it sounds like the when you're realizing you're about to have a panic attack uh it's like oh maybe i don't know but it's right now i don't know there's tension there though but this track sort of encapsulates a lot of energies at once. That's why I really like it, and I think you will too. One of my favorite feelings. Pre-panic attack. Yeah, panic attack. Guys, if you love that unsettling feeling I just described for you,

you're going to love this. Just that sweet, like, yo, am I having a panic attack, or do I just listen to bats? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know, man, but I feel something. It's a vibe. Yeah, I feel something. I'm not dead.

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