The Daily Zeitgeist - Chaos Voters, Starbucks Pumps Brakes 9.5.19

Episode Date: September 5, 2019

In episode 467, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Marcella Arguello to discuss Walmart limiting ammunition sales, how Trump supporters get their support, an update on the protests in Hong Kong and the use of Pepe the frog, new Apple shows, the conversion therapy group leader coming out as gay, Starbucks limiting modification options in their app, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Kroger tells shoppers to stop openly carrying guns in its stores, just hours after Walmart makes the same request2. Walmart to Limit Ammunition Sales and Discourage ‘Open Carry’ of Guns in Stores3. The Trump Voters Whose ‘Need for Chaos’ Obliterates Everything Else4. Hong Kong’s leader made a big concession to protesters. Is it “too little, too late”?5. Hong Kong leader fully withdraws extradition bill, but protesters say it’s not enough6. Pepe the Frog Means Something Different in Hong Kong—Right?7. Apple Scraps Richard Gere Drama 'Bastards' (Exclusive)8. Conversion therapy group founder comes out as gay, apologizes9. WATCH: Former conversion therapy leader McKrae Game disavows movement he helped fuel10. Starbucks has finally put a modification limit on its app, cutting back on disgusting drinks that made baristas' jobs harder11. WATCH: Three Man Weave by Injury Reserve Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

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a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially, off the top, fuck coke industries and fuck Fox News. It's Thursday, September 5th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. With the burps, I'll swig this mountain dew.

With the burps, I'll swig this mountain dew. With the burps, I'll swig this mountain dew. Courtesy of Wide Awake at 3.45 a.m. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. What we got, we got to give it to Obama. What we've got, we've got to skim it from the top. What we got, we've got to keep it from robotas.

We do it on a planet that we think is getting hotter. Realize we don't want womanizer. Don't jive with a corporate advertiser. Cold blood is the common divisor. How come everybody want to be a colonizer? Mouth of gray, mouth of gray, mouth of gray now. Wow. Wow.

I think that was my favorite AKA of yours. Somebody just, look, sometimes you ask for these themed AKAs and people just tap into something. That's from Wide Awake at 3.45 a.m. Oh, damn. Double tap for him. Oh, that was you too? Yeah, that was me too. Exacta to whoever you may be, Wide Awake. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian,

Marcela Arguello. I'm already ready to leave. This is a lot. Arguello. This is what I say-o. And now you're really ready to go. Oh, no. How have you been?

That's me walking away. Yeah. Nice. Fully artist and a talented comedian. I'm very good. Thank you for asking. I've been very busy. Very tired.

I got eight hours of sleep. I'm very happy right now. Nice. Wow. What do you average? What you been averaging? I've been very busy. Yeah. Very tired. I got eight hours of sleep. I'm very happy right now. Nice. Wow. What do you average? What you been averaging? Oh, not a lot. Just because I was moving around.

I was doing some shows in North Carolina. Okay. And I went to a wedding. And I went to surprise my niece for a birthday party. So I'm like, yeah, it wasn't a lot. I was traveling back and forth. So it was, last night, I think I finally caught up. Okay.

You're the TT of the year, huh? Yeah, I am. The Tia. Where did you have to go to surprise your niece? To Stockton, California. Stockton. Hey. Sunny Stockton.

209 till I die. Is it the same as Modesto? 209, yeah. Oh, okay. Modesto, but we're in Stockton. My sister's in Stockton, so yeah. Oh, you guys have the Google question? This goes with that. Okay. Well, we'll get to it in Stockton. You guys have the Google question. This goes with that.

We'll get to it in one moment. I dressed up as a Ghostbuster for my niece because she's obsessed with Ghostbusters. She's obsessed with Halloween. 84 Ghostbusters? Actually, all of it. She's a girl, so she's super into the girls one.

She's into all of them them but she's just obsessed with Halloween yeah which is like cool because like oh like loves costumes just like likes the creepiness

and weirdness of Halloween like Halloween like if we do a dance party she's like I'm gonna put on the Halloween Pandora station and then we're just like dancing to Thriller a lot

you sound like a very fun aunt I am a very fun aunt it's true that's why I'm tired. All right. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners just a couple of things we're talking about.

We're going to talk about Kroger and Walmart leading the gun control charge, which is an unfortunate sentence for our republic. an unfortunate sentence for our republic. We're going to talk about Trump supporters, where they get their support from, where psychologically it comes from. We're going to talk about Trump allies raising funds to go after journalists. We're going to talk about some things. So exciting.

In international politics that are giving us hope. And all of that and plenty more. But first, we like to ask our guest, Marcella, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? So because I've been working so much, there's nothing that exciting. But I did have to Google ghostbusters because I had to try to remember what the lyrics were. Those are lyrics, right?

Yeah, those are the only lyrics. When there's something strange in your neighborhood. But that's where it ends. Who are you going to call? Ghostbusters. Now I'm out. Yeah, that's it. That's all you need, though, if you're surprising children at a birthday party. That's really all you need. Did you dress up? Yeah, I was dressed up as a Ghostbuster.

I went to Party City. I bought a men's one-size-fits-all. And apparently it doesn't fit everybody, but I fit great in it. And I guess people were complaining about how long it was. And it was perfect for me, because I'm six two. Would you rock it outside of a Ghostbusters context? No.

Okay, so it looks like a full on Ghostbusters jumpsuit. I mean, it has a little logo on the side with the ghost. Yeah, so made for a Halloween show. And it has like an inflatable pack, which was really fun to play with and smack some of the kids around one of my nieces doesn't like me so i was like hitting her with it i was like running i was like oh i have to get inside i just went past me just boom and she was like oh sorry i

didn't see oh i didn't see you man the ecto pack has a mind of its own i just realized i know more lyrics from ghostbusters 2 theme song uh the bobby brown song than the Ghostbusters original theme song. Oh, yeah, the whole rap. Too hot to handle, too cold to hold. They call the Ghostbusters and the M-Patrol? Don't ask me, man. You're the one who said you knew it.

Don't be humble now. Google it. What is something you think is overrated? You know what I think is overrated? Paying too much for food. I spent a lot of time on the road and it's like What is something you think is overrated? You know what I think is overrated? Paying too much for food. Okay. I really, because I spent a lot of time on the road. And it's like, this isn't worth what you're saying.

It's worth. Right. And it drives me nuts because it's also, it's like people who think, I mean, there are some items, like I think fish, you know, it's such a. It's worth the money. It is worth the money because of all the work that you put into it. But there's some things I'm like, I don't know. This is, and it's always all the work that you put into it. But there's some things where I'm like, I don't know. And it's always like the smaller food items. Like a shared plates restaurant?

Yeah, or like salads that don't come with carbohydrates. Why is this $15? Right. They're like, well, good question. Yeah, they don't care. And then I'm hungry. And then you have to order a side. I think that's overrated.

You get sick and tired of paying. Rent. Yeah. You're paying their rent is what you're doing. Exactly. You're paying their rent and I hate it because, especially in Los Angeles, it's ridiculous

because you do travel. You're like, yeah, this is what breakfast should cost, less than $10. Right. Yeah. I wonder if it's also transportation of the food because LA has all the best produce and, you know, farming around here.

I don't think so because it's in California. So it should actually be cheaper for us. It should be more. Oh, you're saying LA is also expensive. Oh, LA is the worst. Yeah, LA is overpriced. Okay, got it, got it, got it. Overpriced.

There's so many places you go and you're like, that look like you're like, damn, this is going to be a good meal. Yeah. And then you're eating like, this is mediocre as fuck. And I'm really just paying because y'all wanted to put all this reclaimed fucking barn wood up from wherever you sourced it. And the worst is when you have to like wait in line for it. I never wait in lines for food.

I feel like that really upsets me. I'll wait in line if it's like a taco truck. Okay. That makes, that's a line waiting type of transaction but that's debatable because it depends on the time yeah at 2 a.m there probably is a line yeah yeah afternoon that's when you should be hitting that taco truck right right right but yeah i guess there's like there is something yeah i'm totally put off by lines there's a few places like around me that aren't necessarily overpriced but they have like the one item that everyone wants at the same time

and i'm always like fuck yeah i remember one time time in San Francisco, it wasn't my choice. I was hanging out with friends who were like, we're going to this restaurant no matter how long the wait is. And I hated it because I hate waiting in line for food. And there were these sandwiches. I don't even, they're like breakfast sandwiches. They weren't that good. Standing in line for a sandwich is the whitest shit I've ever done.

That's not true. I got fucked in a vineyard once. That is pretty white. That's pretty white. Yeah. That's the whitest. Were you wearing done. That's not true. I got fucked in a vineyard once. That is pretty white. That's pretty white. Yeah. Were you wearing a linen shirt? I wish. That's a white multiplier

you would add to that score. That's true. Do you get hangry? Is that why you don't like me? Oh, yeah. I was about to say, I feel like we're from the same planet. I start dying.

I'm so thin. I'm just dying. Because your metabolism is like, your body's just eating your vital organs. I'm literally dying. That's why I can't. I mean, I always have snacks in the car.

Like right now, I have a piece of fruit for when I leave here. Dang. What kind of fruit? A peach. A peach. Peaches are good right now. They're so good. The best.

I know. I was asked this. Do you ever have a July flame peach? What's that? There's a part of the peach growing season. I learned this from eminent pie maker, Nicole Rucker. There's a peach called, she makes a July flame peach. There's a week in July that's especially hot.

And that affects the fruit of like one week or maybe a section of the month. But it's typically in July when it's the hottest in these certain areas. And the peach becomes like red and very sweet. And it's very unique to this one time. I'm like, damn, that's a flex for fruit. And so when the pie comes out, they're like, you want this pie? Because these peaches,

they're not always available and they're only available for a very specific time during season. Delicious. And this is, they told you that at a restaurant or the person who personally made it? Yo, I learned this on fucking,

you want to talk about some white shit? On KCRW. Okay. And I was like, hmm, hello. Wow. KCRW is not overrated. That's a great place to learn shit. Oh, yeah.

Very, yeah. That always sneaks up on you, that information. Oh, man. That sounds yummy. We grew up with a peach tree, orange tree garden, a vegetable garden. So like, man, those peaches, when they're good, they're fucking good. Exactly. There's nothing worse than like an unripe or just not banging peach.

I don't know what it is, but it's very upsetting. Is this a Seinfeld episode? What are we doing? What is something you think is underrated? Underrated? My people's food, Salvadorian food. I think like not enough people know about Salvadorian food. And I think more people should learn about it because it's so good.

And what's crazy is because people in El Salvador came to this country. They've been coming to this country, but there was a place in Chattanooga, Tennessee that was like an incredible place to find pupusas, which I didn't think would be possible. But it's just proof that what matters is the person making them.

And they were so good. They're some of the best pupusas I've ever had. We were just screaming about pupusas last year. Because I love pupusas. They're so good. Yeah, I can make them pupusas I've ever had. We were just screaming about pupusas last week. Good. Because I love pupusas. They're so good. Yeah. I can make them. They're not great, but I can make them.

And it's nice. I can make the curtido. And it's nice to eat. Oh, I love curtido. Yeah. It was also because my mom loves pupusas, but she also loves pizza. And then recently we were like, oh, yeah, pupusas are like pizza in Central America. Yeah.

Because it's the carb. It's the cheese. It's the sauce. And then the carb, it's the cheese, it's the sauce, and then a meat maybe. And what is your favorite pupuson? Like what are the ingredients? Like what are the kind of main components of it? Yeah, that's the ground up pork with the beans and the cheese.

And what's the base? What's the carb? Well, the corn flour. What is it called? The masa. Yeah. And it's just a perfect. It's that shit called? The masa. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just a perfect.

It's also like what I love about them. You're supposed to eat them with cortido and salsa, which is delicious. But like I do like when you have like day old pupusas and you can just like pack them to go. Again, food in the car that's easy to eat. It's always nice. Also, they reheat really well. Yeah. Because you can put that shit in a pan and just quick flip. That's the best way to reheat them is on the skillet.

Don't microwave that shit. Don't microwave that shit. And yeah, it's an easy reheat and they're so good. They taste like they're not even old. Also underrated, panko pollo. Another South Korean dish. Panko chumpe. Panko chumpe.

I can make that too, bitch. Oh, hell yeah. It's good. That turkey is good. It's a salsa. It's a mix of spices that makes the salsa really good. And it makes it real juicy. Where do you get pupusas in LA?

Where's your favorite spot? There's a lady around the corner from where I live that sells them out of her house. She makes them so good. I'm in Highland Park. In Highland Park, there's a lot of ladies selling pupusas out of their house. Hopefully, the white people don't call the cops on them anytime soon. You see those signs that are like, a non-vending zone. Yeah, exactly.

I hate that shit. It's like, dude, thevending zone. Yeah, exactly. I hate that shit. It's like, dude, the vendors that make this area great. Shout out to my boy, Mike, who's fighting to make street vending legal in LA. Oh, cool. Look me up with him. I want to know who he is. I want to support that shit.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, a lot of the stuff he was doing recently. Now he's moved on to homelessness. He's just like helping LA in every way. That's great. Good for him. He was part of the huge push to help legalize street vending in the city because it's one of the few places people can actually earn money

with their own skills without it being criminalized and using these things like it's unsanitary. And you're like, when you look at some of the numbers, a lot of these people are not poisoning people

like the fucking restaurants are. Right, exactly. Those overrated, expensive restaurants. Yeah. Who's pushing to fight against the, is it just like local restaurants? fucking restaurants right exactly who those overrated expensive restaurants yeah who's pushing to fight against the is it just like local restaurants yeah chambers of commerce who just don't they're you know or neighborhood groups chambers of white give us yeah just gentrifiers

who are like i don't know like it's weird that they're selling quesadillas like which is funny because then they go on their twitter and they're like, oh my God, legalize immigrants. Legalize this and that. Those are usually those people. Also, that woman who makes quesadillas by Echo Park, get onto that one. Sounds yummy. Yeah, taking notes. Echo Park. He's left-handed.

Quesadillas. Y me gusta las pupusas con curtido y salsa de tomate. Pan con pollos. It's like a turkey sandwich Yeah It's made with like A French baguette Bread

And it's made with The turkey that's Prepared Salvadoran style With it's particular spices And it's so juicy And then it's like Cucumbers, tomatoes Radishes

Lettuce Mayonnaise Oh my god And if you go to the spot Get the drink Ensalada Oh yeah that's good Wow you know a lot Salad Oh yeah I used to date i used to date salador oh nice the drink is

we're here uh and are we gonna do a myth today no i hate this section of your guys's show i don't support it i don't want to participate. I mean, I'm supposed to like what, myth bust the chupacabra? That doesn't make sense. Uh-huh. I was actually hoping you would. He's all fucked up now. Myth bust the chupacabra. I guess we'll never know.

Let's talk about Kroger and Walmart leading the gun control charge. Huh? Yeah. We're at a point where we have to rely. Well, there's a way to look at this positively and cynically, like everything, right? Because right now, obviously, there's tons of public outcry for background checks or any kind of meaningful gun legislation.

But obviously, the leadership on the right in general is not wanting to do anything about it. But if you're looking for the bare minimum from a private company, look no further than these two places, because Walmart just came out and said it's going to stop selling ammunition for military-style assault rifles and discourage customers from openly carrying guns in its stores and would also call on Congress to increase background checks and consider an assault rifle ban from Walmart. Now, this is after somebody shot like dozens of people to death in their store. In a Walmart and also even another shooting in Odessa.

Hey, could you do us a favor and not carry these deadly weapons around openly in our store? Yeah, Kroger was a little bit like, just don't around openly in our store. Yeah, Kroger was a little bit like, just don't bring them in, please. Right. Just want to create an atmosphere of safety. Yeah, Kroger, I was curious how they tied into the conversation. Well, I mean, they own like Fred Meyer, which would sell ammunition. I think they cut down on their sales of ammunition a while back.

But I guess in general, they're like, yo, nobody wants to go to the fucking grocery store and see you walking around with a wild ass gun on your hip or whatever, or slung on your shoulder. Unless you're going to do a duel for bananas or some shit. Right, and if you do it, do it in the dueling parking lot, away from the public, so no one is hurt. A dueling aisle 16. And duel with swords. Yeah, right, exactly.

Pussy. Duel with swords like they do. What was the last sword? Wasn't there a fucking movie about to come out? Yeah, there's a movie that's going gonna come out that's about the last duel uh and it is it took place in the 60s in france and it's like they were just like okay you guys murder each other yeah i think it's gonna be uh somebody have a gun is that what the story is the last story his last duel is like i have a gun you idiot he's like are you real? I'm aiming it right at you, man. Don't get fucking, what did I fucking tell you, Pierre? Bang.

He slaps the gun with his glove. It was recent enough that there is black and white footage of the last duel. Like these dudes fighting with swords. Jesus. Oh, my God. Wild the fuck out. But yeah, I think people were obviously applauding Walmart because they were- Which is hilarious.

Right. Odd is hilarious. Right. Oddly enough. But again, that's where the cynical view comes in, where people are saying, look, they also have an eye on their e-commerce business because clearly they already have the, they've already destroyed middle America and rural towns with their big box stores, but it's their e-commerce business that they want to expand. And to get into that business, they need to appeal more to like coastal liberal neighborhoods and so they feel like you know people are like well this this doesn't hurt their ambition to get into that market yeah but i mean at the very least do if

just do what's right it's like it's almost like you don't need to even suggest that what they're doing has an alternative motive because they always, like that, all corporations have, like that decision was made in a boardroom, not by somebody who was like, what's the right thing to do? Like that has never happened once. What's gonna get us into the headlines?

What's the most litty move we can do right now? I just, I hope that they get into customizing handguns. That'd be kind of fun. Walmart, you go into Walmart and you customize your own handgun. It's like when you make your own house key. Yeah. Just place your gun in the tray.

Choose your design. Yeah, that'd be fun. Also on the right, the way that they are dealing with people pushing gun control is with paranoid freakouts. The top story on Drudge right now is social credit score to determine who can buy gun. And Amazon Echo and Apple Watch would flag neuropsychiatric violence. right now is social credit score to determine who can buy gun and amazon echo and apple watch would flag neuropsychiatric violence uh and those sources info wars and uh the daily caller well what shred of reality because they're always based they just need a a fucking pubic hair of truth right so then blow that up into like a full-blown story so what it

like is there anything that suggests that there's like technology i think people are looking into ways that you can foresee that somebody is going to go on a violent rampage for sure and i mean anybody with an apple watch some of the some of the red flag laws are specifically aimed at if somebody is saying certain things, you want to get guns out of their hands. That's crazy, because then I won't be able to have a gun. I say some wild shit to myself just to be funny. They're like, all right, Ms. Arguello, we'll just check your Twitter. What the fuck? Yeah, my Twitter would definitely cancel me from having a gun.

Okay, the ATF is on their way. That's interesting. Yeah, it Twitter would definitely cancel me from having a job. Okay, the ATF is on their way. Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah, it's its own different type of discrimination. Well, yeah. I mean, it's the same thing like what they're doing with people's visas at the border. There was like that one student who they denied or tried to deny his entry to Harvard. But then there was another report saying this is just a growing trend of them of like Customs and Border Patrol looking at people's social media feeds and what other people might be saying on their feeds and then holding them accountable right they should

put women in charge of these decisions uh yeah women are good deciders of like which men are kind of i don't even think yeah they wouldn't even need to look at a twitter feed yeah just kind of look you up and down like what's what's your favorite novel? Nirvana T-shirt. Right. A little too thin on the shoulders, like you've been wearing it a lot. Nirvana T-shirt, I don't know. I mean, in utero was good, but. There is apparently a HARPA, Health Advanced Research Projects Agency. Not to be confused with HARpo, Oprah's production company. Right, which I think it is related.

Harpo is like the health wing of DARPA. But they're apparently putting together a proposal to develop a way to identify early signs of changes in people with mental illness that could lead to violent behavior. in people with mental illness that could lead to violent behavior. But again, this assumes that the problem is mental illness as opposed to the fact that people are allowed to have things in their hands that if they press a button, it ends their life or the lives of other people. I wonder, is that thing where they can measure changes in people? It's like, and the solution is to put microchips in their brains. Oh, man, that's what's going to happen.

Or is it wearable tech? Right. I mean, this is- Sounds like implanted. Things get dystopian very quickly if we insist on letting everybody have guns. It's like, we'll keep the guns, but everyone has to get a fucking brain implant. Right. They just need to be able to control our brains.

That has a kill switch. oh my god i was telling miles before we started about how people are sharing this meme of like encouraging kids and that just started school to like be kind be kind to the kid that isn't making any friends or if you see somebody getting bullied which i feel is like the inception of right like uh stopping school shooters before they start. Oh my God, really? I mean, that's how I see it. Yeah, no, for sure. Because it's like, be kind to the losers.

That's basically what it's saying. I mean, that's what they said about, like that was the initial response to the Columbine shooting was that these kids had been like bullied and almost to like make them into like these underdog heroes and it turns out like one of them was just a like stereotypical or like textbook anti-social psychopath murderer yeah who just manipulated the other kid into doing it yeah i mean it's just what happens right right but we we like to tell stories. And it's weird because that particular story like makes the victims into kind of the bad guys. Right. As is like, well, they brought this on themselves. Right. There's we have a hard time like accepting the fact that deserve doesn't like in the words of the unforgiven deserves got nothing to do with it like we always want deserve to have like there to be the people have to have like deserved it or there has to be like some explanation right that there can't just be evil that exists yeah it's just bad people

uh all right we're gonna take a quick break we'll be right back Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state.

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And we're back. And Miles, you pointed out this look at Trump supporters as an expression of this new trend. Yeah, a need for chaos. So these political scientists, they did like six surveys. They're European researchers, but they did four surveys in the U.S. where they interviewed over 5,000 participants and two in Denmark with somewhere around 1,300. To kind of find – they had this theory essentially that there's a need for some people who are participating in politics or a democracy that are just looking for what they call chaos incitement, which is a strategy of last resort by marginalized status seekers. So what they're essentially saying is like, you know, Trump has often just sort of

tried to create this narrative that America is in chaos. And, you know, that sort of built himself up to be like, look at these other presidents, their failures, it's chaos, it's chaos, it's chaos, we need to change it. But they found that a lot of these people who have a need for chaos, it's chaos, it's chaos, we need to change it. But they found that a lot of these people who have a need for chaos, they sort of get that out or express that need by just spreading like conspiracy theories and fake news and all this other stuff. And it's not necessarily because they're trying to spread their own ideology. It's just that their ideology is that they want to undermine the political establishment, elites, whatever, and try and get others inspired to be like, yeah, fuck this thing. Right. And before, I think a lot of times you could look at is like,

oh, these people want this specific thing. That's why they're tweeting this out. But they're, you know, as they look at it, they're like, no, these people really just do this. Not even because they believe that it's true. They say, quote, for the core group, hostile political rumors are simply a tool to create havoc. So in the way they identified these people is that they found that the people who were like really into this sort of this drawn to chaos category, that they had affirmative responses to the following statements. I fantasize about a natural disaster wiping out most of humanity such that a small group of people can start all over. I think society should be burned to the ground. When I think about our political and social institutions, I cannot help thinking, quote, just let them all burn. We cannot fix the problems in

our social institutions. We need to tear them down and start over. I sometimes I just feel like destroying beautiful things. Well, I relate to all of these statements. Yeah, I agree with all of them. I'm a Trump supporter. Well, they say like a lot of these statements. Yeah. I agree with all of them. Which is funny. Well, they say like a lot of these tied strongly to support for Trump and then even to Bernie Sanders to a lesser extent. Right. Because like these are vague in the sense that if you can see like, oh, we're this capitalist structure we live under like is not working. We need to let this shit burn.

I mean, that's the thing we've even said about like fucking burn it down. Yeah. we need to let this shit burn i mean that's the thing we've even said about like fucking burn it down yeah uh but it's very very strong with people who identified as like supporting trump some of trump's earliest supporters were these people who looked at like psychographic data that they had stolen basically from facebook and were like we've been tracking like political like where people were in america politically and right now it just spiked in terms of people who are ready for like an outsider candidate to come in and just basically flip the checkers table and right now just upend the game and so that makes sense that like bernie

who's coming in and like criticizing things from the outside and also Trump, like both of these people who don't make sense to the mainstream media would come in and like have some success. I mean, it shows it's at the very least, there is a growing number of people who feel completely powerless in the system. Right. And now can some embrace just its total destruction. Or other people just want to see it shook up. Yeah.

I mean, people have been wanting, you know, fantasizing about zombie apocalypses for forever decades now i remember when that was like the fucking every urban outfitter's gift had something to do with the zombie apocalypse right like zombie survival guide which i read yeah i mean the idea of simplifying things i think there's something alienating and a little bit like a deep existential terror about the number of people there are in the world and like how big the world is that like people don't really like to kind of tangle with the idea that you're actually just one of you know uh seven billion people your life means nothing right yeah i think i think that fucks with people and that's where you know a lot of our movies are about finding out that you're secretly the most

important person on the planet like in the matrix or harry potter you know like all these huge movies are just like oh it turns out i'm the only one who matters like which is fuck y'all yeah i think this whole movement is tapping into a very human like way of confronting that and just being like holy shit like in america especially we don't deal with things by thinking about ourselves as part of a collective or at least we don't do that well oh no we don't make anything about out of that that's a that is a problem with a lot of people's i don't think uh i mean to quote george costanza we're living in a society i think that's the problem is that a lot of people don't move with other people in mind and the day-to-day aspects and that's that's what's frustrating it's like i a really good

example of that is when um you're driving and a bus tries to merge and you see how many people won't let a bus merge right that drives me fucking crazy i'm always on the bus trucks yeah i always see that where trucks are like in an exit lane and they're like i have to get over or merge like no i have fuck you it's crazy it's gridlock traffic and it's like dude what do you like two seconds and it's a bus full of people let them in i don know. It's just you see examples all the time. I mean, even like the stupid straw thing is ridiculous of like how we're banning straws. But like we can't, I don't know, we can't ban plastic in general. Right, right, right.

We're so dependent on that. But we want to get rid of these straws, which is proof that like nobody has any good ideas. Right. Well, yeah. And the ones that are would hold like too much of like the stakeholders at the top of industries accountable and they're like no no don't fucking don't bring that spotlight over here yeah i mean that's i mean look at jay-z trying to be like let me fix the nfl and it's like dude what are you doing bro you look like a fucking sellout yeah i mean he looks crazy it's also like impossible to change what's going on uh in an institution

that's been existing for so long. Yeah, by handshaking with other billionaire plantation owners who are like, yeah, man. Yeah, we'll figure this out. It's tough. It's tough. Yeah. And even with that whole Jay-Z thing, part of me thinks like there could be the element that there is some kind of idea that he wouldn't just so foolishly engage with the NFL like that. And then part of me, we said this when the story first came out, we're like, part of me just knows he's a fucking hustler, dude.

He's about that check. So he might really be like, no, fuck, fuck cap, dude. Fuck all this shit. That's a fucking deal I just signed. Yeah. He's a long-term guy. Yeah. You think about how long he waited for Beyonce's virginity.

He waited a long time for that. And- Is she a virgin? No. Really? No. Really? Maybe. I don't know. She only had one other boyfriend before him

and she said she was saving it. Yeah, but Beyonce would have that power. She's like, I'm a virgin. I'm a virgin. Thank you so much for waiting. It's me, Beyonce. I'm a virgin. That's true.

It's a blessing to be a virgin. Holy shit. I can't believe Beyonce is here on the day after her 38th birthday. You know, the daily zeitgeist, how you say it? Daily zeit, I don't know how to say that. How's veganism working out for you? It's good. I'm hungry.

I couldn't eat my birthday cake. Yeah, Jay-Z is crazy. But to your point, I do think he is someone who could easily be playing the long game and having the center be money. Yeah, right. I mean, what is it? Compassionate capitalism, which is not a real thing. But I think that's kind of what he's justified for himself.

You don't become a billionaire by accident. You become a billionaire by being a- A ruthless animal. Ruthless. Yeah, predator. As he said, you didn't start out from your trunk to reach the roof just to put the roof in your trunk. Right. That's poetic.

You know what I mean? That's poetic. Thank you. Thank you so much. And also, as he said, Jay-Z in the range, crazy and deranged. So, I mean, he told us he was crazy from the beginning. So, you know, I mean. We're on the Ari Melber show.

That was relevant. The Ari Melber show is so, oh, so whack. As Jay-Z saidfer Show is so whack. As Jay-Z said, the streets is watching. I have 99 problems, but a B word is not one. It's like, you should have just said it, Ari. Just say it. Let's talk about something that's given me a little bit of hope. Now, there are two stories that seem to be going in the right direction for a change so the hong kong riots uh are starting to get results and uh

i mean don't call them i guess riots too you shouldn't call right yeah that well that's one democracy demonstrations demonstrations damn miles what because evolutionary miles i just don't like that well no that's actually one of their demands No you're right That's one of the five demands Is that they stop being called riots Right right I was just calling them riots Because I side with

Because you're a white man And you like to oppress them Oh what Yeah No I was gonna say Because I side with the Chinese Government Yeah the Chinese government

Always And in everything Yeah so The Hong Kong government Caved on one of their demands. Yeah. Formal withdrawal of that extradition bill. Right.

But they still got four more. Which was the thing that started the demonstrations in the first place. But the other four demands are things having to do with how just horribly they handled the demonstrations i was reading this uh article about like how they were stopped using like whatsapp and these other things that the that use the internet and more to like these mesh networks that use bluetooth so you're not using the internet at all to be able to fucking just outsmart i mean it shows you like with technology and people when there's a will there's a way was that because the authorities were kind of come on the internet control the internet they're like fuck that, bro.

Everybody toss your Bluetooth on. And what it would do is like if you're near the person, it works very quickly because it's just connecting that way. But if everyone is using it, it just sort of daisy chains everybody's network. So like eventually it'll hop from phone to phone until it gets to the person you're trying to message. Right. And then you could also do just broadcasts like from your Bluetooth.

That's not to anyone, but just general announcements. You know, technology. I love that the people in Hong Kong have proved how lazy Americans are. Like, we're worthless. Yeah. There's just no... Organizing, no... Well, it's because, again, our taste for oppression, we love it in a way.

There isn't enough. I don't know what would have to happen where you get that kind of response. In Hong Kong, they're not used to that shit. So when they see police like clubbing people, they're like, what the fuck? Sure, sure. Here we're like, just like I was saying to you, we're like, you know what happens when the police come out? We just sort of as a matter of fact go, yeah, people get hit. Yeah.

Right. People get hit needlessly. People get attacked needlessly. And so that's just sort of like accepted. And I think the taste that we have, you know, it takes a lot to get people outraged. Yeah. Especially when you see that nearly a quarter of the population of Hong Kong was coming out. Yeah. If that's true, if nearly 1.7 million people did come out, y'all.

Right. What the fuck? I mean, I don't know. What is it? I really think it would be something like fucking the internet went down or some shit. And they're like, you know what? Y'all get no more internet. That's got to be it.

Because when my internet doesn't work in my apartment, I fucking lose my mind. You're just like, what do I do? It's a riot. Right. I'm out of here. I'm not reading this book. I'm not reading this stack of New Yorkers that keeps piling up. I'm not reading this stack of New Yorkers that keeps piling up.

So Boris Johnson in the UK tried to do some strong arm shit and basically shut down parliament. And he got the Queen's approval, which I didn't realize there was an official process that involved him going to get the Queen's sign off. Not cool on her part, I would say. She was just like, yeah, sure, whatever you say.

She doesn't give a fuck. UK Zeitgang, put me on to everything that's happening here. I mean, I intellectually understand about a no-deal Brexit, but there is so much going on just in the last couple days with Boris Johnson taking an L on his first vote and then suspending Parliament. But then I see a lot of people being like, no, this is just the beginning, man. There's a way to muck this up and have it be a full-on catastrophic no-deal Brexit.

Right. So, I mean, that's what he came in and basically tried to strong-arm him with a super razor-thin majority. He had one person and that one person defected. And now he doesn't have a majority anymore. So now can't really do it shout out to traitors everywhere anymore them if you want to be a traitor to your party or your class please all right weird side note on the uh hong kong demonstrations they're apparently using pepe the frog the symbol of white supremacists and you know all right icon yeah uh they're using that to symbolize young protesters basically and there's no real explanation of how it took that journey just like you know i've said that

the least reliable information you find anywhere is like word origins because like words just take on new meaning there's like no documentation there's no way to document like how words change meanings but um this is another situation like that where our writer j mcnabb tried to figure out where this came from and like what the intent was and there's no there's no clear explanation but it doesn't seem like there's any sympathies on the on the behalf of the young demonstrators uh with like the american right i know at first like there was a moment where they saw american flags and pepe memes people like are they all right but i know at the time a lot of that was like meant to be some kind of like outcry to the u.s to maybe like be like hey over fucking here y'all right yeah i don't know i mean look

pepe's just chill you know just brings in the youth yes the fucking weird ass frog yeah it's just also just a hilarious image. Right. It just sort of just seems. Yeah. It seems to be what they're saying. I mean, to begin with, Pepe was created as a funny looking stoner frog and then the alt-right appropriated him. So, I mean, this is just people taking it back to its origins as like.

Of a drawing. Of a drawing of a drawing yeah i think if there's one thing we do know though about hong kong protesters is that they are very concerned uh with just the preservation of western civilization right uh and white european culture yeah absolutely this sort of yeah yeah uh all right we're gonna take another quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state.

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What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Apple has scrapped a show that they were developing. Oh, my God.

It's so funny. Yeah, with Richard Gere, which if you just read the description, you would not understand why they ordered this straight to series. Now, if y'all don't know about the business okay you might pitch something they might say hey we want to we'll order a pilot or we'll order a script or whatever when you order something straight to series you're just saying based off this what you're telling me right now i want this show fully it's paid for let's go it's a go it feels like all they saw was richard gear right and they were like oh yeah straight

to series love it yeah whatever and, and then somebody read it afterwards. It was like, Oh, wait. So this series called bastards. It's based on a popular Israeli series, but this one specifically the adaptation for the U S was going to star Richard Gere as one.

This is a description from the Hollywood reporter as one of two elderly Vietnam veterans and best friends who find their monotonous lives upended when a woman they both loved 50 years ago is killed by a car, their lifelong regrets and secrets collide with their resentment of today's self-absorbed millennials, and the duo then go on a shooting spree. Mmm, classic American television. I mean, it does seem to be tapping into something. The minds of lunatics. Well, I think it's just sort of literally like this

the waning virility and power of white men. The show. Yes. But it's like... And that entire generation. Right. Based off of that, you're like, yeah, yeah, we like this. Shooting spree against young adults, young people in the country. Great, great, great. Perfect. But they knew what it was when they signed up but then they

started developing the show and there was like a real butting of heads when apple was like we want to like focus on the bond of these two like non-vets rather than like the dark shit and like the showrunner and like writers and producers like nah nah nah it's got to be about the dark dudes nah nah nah nah that ain't it that ain't it dude it's about fucking shooting these avocado toast eating circle jerk yeah into a ar-15 and then so the like they had to pull the plug i pulled the plug and paid a hefty kill fee for stopping the show but i just it's so crazy it's just odd when the description tells you everything you need to know you still do it and i think it kind of crazy it's just odd when the description tells you everything you need to know you still do it and i think it kind of underlines all the problems apple's been having

with this tv with their programming because this isn't the first show that's had issues with their showrunners or the content it's so funny it's like something like they were like is this a newspaper like what right such a ridiculous story right yeah and Yeah. And I think when you, but again, I think with Apple, right, they make hardware. So hardware doesn't have to have a political stance. Hardcore wear. Yeah, exactly. Now they're like, we do fucking content. Hardcore content.

And that's where they're getting, I think that's where they're realizing like, ooh, where do we want to, like, are we really going to put our foot down on some things by saying this is the content we make or stand behind? It's easier when you're just making phones and watches that spy on you. Exploit workers. Not stories. Exploit workers, not IP.

Wasn't Apple supposedly really controlling when it came to developing shows? There was one story about a comedy show that they basically took all the humor out of. Right, they were like, there's too many... Oh, the jokes are...

Too many jokes. It's like really edgy, kind of edgy for us. That character's a person of color? Ooh. And is that okay? So there's also a Kevin Sorbo movie that just released its first trailer. It's called The Reliant.

It is basically uh red dawn with antifa uh and it the premise is the left comes for your guns and the way they come for your guns is by shooting you and your family uh so what the the the- On bird scooters? Here comes the cavalry. The Reliant protect family and faith. How is Kevin Sorbo still out here? Because he's the only person. It's an interesting question because he- Let's go back to 1998.

Well, but this seems to be something that's taking place right now where the right is just scrambling for either anybody who has a shred of relevance in you know more mainstream culture that is created in towns where their you know viewpoints

aren't accepted where the libs are just say it man yeah yeah yeah or so it's either a shred of something somebody said being used to be like well dave chapelle is our new uh hero and overlord or it's you know somebody who has a shred of credibility like kevin sorbo what do you mean what credibility does he have he He was Hercules, bro. That's how low the bar is. They're like, I don't mean to do it was Hercules. Right. I remember that Xena crossover episode. Yeah, but he's been

doing faith-based movies, I think for a while now. Okay, Kevin. Protect family and faith, bro. I mean, I guess Scarlett Johansson could be next. That's what I'm wondering because... Is she slowly just gonna be like, hey, I'm here. I mean, she's really courtinant. Well, actually, no.

She did say she likes Elizabeth Warren. Right. That doesn't mean anything. That's true. But then it's like. That's like classic white feminism. Right, right, right. Yeah.

And then it's like, but I will take a person of color's role. Right. Because fuck that. I'm worried because I'm a tree. So she's trying to take my roles too. I'm a tall-ass tree, bitch. What was her latest, who she came before? She supports Woody Allen.

Woody Allen. She said, I asked him directly, and he gave me direct answers, and I believe him. Oh, my God. There you have it. Beautiful women are really useless truly useless was it specifically about all the allegations of like abuse of child abuse because i was going to say like it could be one of those things like i asked him what the special was today

at this restaurant and he was right and i believed him but it's straight up did she you think she really asked those questions i like the idea of him admitting to her that he molested kids. And she's like, I believed him and I still want to work with him. Yeah. She's like, oh,

I believe, yeah. Oh, oh, no, I believe he admitted to it. He did it. I believe that he did it.

I believe him because he admitted to me that he did it, but I'm cool with it. But you know, you just have these things on your bucket list you're trying to do. is she already in a Woody Allen film? Probably.

I mean, oh yeah, she's in Match Point. Oh yeah. There was one movie, I think, Scoop or something where she played,

she was the Woody Allen. Like, you know how every Woody Allen movie has either Woody Allen or a Woody Allen corollary? Yeah. She was the Woody Allen corollary in one of them.

Oh. Didn't work that well. Iconic. Yes. Let's talk about conversion therapy, guys. Oh, hell yeah. Conversion therapy is having a rough week. I've done it.

It's great. So much better now. The urges are gone. All the urges are gone. It's having a rough week. So the founder of one of the most prolific conversion therapy camps has recently made an announcement. And he has come out as gay and also said that conversion therapy is bullshit, essentially. It's a horrible thing

to do to somebody and it doesn't work. Oh, wow. I think we have a quote from him. I told my wife, I'm like, you know, my attractions are worse than they ever were. I struggled more so trying to deny them than being able to accept my attractions and just say, you know, I'm a gay man. That's just, that's just me being honest.

There you go. Um, that must be, I mean, this might seem like the most hilariously obvious turn of events possible, but then you get to the part of the story where they point out that almost 700,000 LGBT identifying adults have gone through some form of conversion therapy as of 2018. So, you know, these ideas that seem like they're hilarious and silly are hurting people.

How does the therapy work exactly? Like, do they just be like, those thoughts are bad, those thoughts are bad those thoughts are bad here's here are the strategies to when you have an urge or an attraction to pivot off of that and think of a woman's vagina right yeah i think it's just like trying to stop it at the like very outside of it it sounds like and then it sounds like it's like completely denying i think i, you know, in addition to just being completely backwards, it sounds like their idea is they don't take the idea that people aren't straight seriously. Right. That it's like, come on, get it together. Right.

They're just like. They're like, that's gay. They just treat it like it's a. Well, and I'm sure what they do is treat it, especially because it's all, you know, religiously aligned. It's like, oh, no, that's gay. They just treat it like it's a... Well, and I'm sure what they do is treat it, especially because it's all religiously aligned. It's like, oh no, that's an evil force that's within you. It's Satan. Right.

It's terrible. It sounds like it's psychology as conceived by a football coach. It's like you just practice wanting chicks, dude. More push-ups, man. Yeah. You know what I used to do? I used to open up a Playboy, put that on the ground, and do push-ups and kiss it every time I went down. Right.

Did 40 of those every time I thought of something not straight. Right. Well, I mean. It's one of those things, too, that sucks because for the LGBTQ community, not just for the obvious reasons, but it's so shitty how often people who are so closeted create so much harm within their own community because there's so much denial and hatred,

self-hatred about it, and it just perpetuates this shitty stereotype that if someone hates gay people that they are also gay. Because that's unfair to the gay community to own all these fucking assholes. Oh, that's you. the gay community to like totally own all these like oh that's you that's you yeah mike pence is yours yeah exactly it's like it's so terrible that

like oh that that the these people who hate themselves so much are are hating others because they too are gay it's like no i mean because there are some people who fucking hate gay people because they're i mean because they're so straight and so fucking stupid right and religious or whatever and um it just complicates it further which is what's to me what's shitty about it for the gay community because they're like we don't want you homie you know yeah i want you a part of our group now yeah i mean it's kind of like the thing we were talking about with columbine it's we're trying to make it more complex than it is mike pence is just an asshole yeah yeah He's not like, there's not,

and hates Mulan psychological thing. Oh man. Hates Mulan. Never forget that part. Never forget that. Mike Pence wrote, uh, like when he was,

uh, a shock or whatever. Yeah. He was like a shock jock. We're not shocked. Like a right wing radio host. That's kind of how he launched his career or relaunched it after he was a failed politician. One of his biggest, hottest and most strongly felt apparently takes was that Mulan was not

okay because the young lady in the picture was dressing as a man. Yep. And then it'll weaken our military with him. Yeah. So. I love all the hilarious topics you guys picked today. I'm really just enjoying myself. Should we talk about Starbucks?

Oh, yes. What happened at Starbucks? I didn't get that far down in the doc. No, no. You want this one. This will lighten your mood after that. I'll tell you if it lightens my mood. Let me know. Do you go to Starbucks? First question. I'll tell you if it lightens my mood. Let me know.

Do you go to Starbucks? First question. Okay. Do you have an order that you regularly have? No. What do you get? Just like black coffee or something? Black coffee.

There you go. Coconut milk. Have you ever used the app to order? Absolutely not. Okay. Well, if anyone who's opened the app and just tried to order something as simple as black coffee, you will see the customization menu right fucking bananas yeah they're the amount of shit you can just do to a fucking cup of water is just absurd and

apparently this has been causing a lot of problems for baristas because people don't know how to act with this these customizations so you can add like you know syrups pumps of flavor syrup fucking fruit uh mashed fruit or whatever, fucking powders, milks, fucking the amount of ice. All this shit is in there. Well, now they're saying, look, we got to pull this shit back because y'all are going ham on these modifiers. And now they have to limit modifiers. Before pumpkin spice season?

Yeah, exactly. I think it might have been pumpkin spice season that occasioned this change. Well, the whole deal is now, this is the thing. Gasp. They're limiting modifiers. You can only add the same ingredient only 12 times. So before that, people were going into the 20s and 30s. What does that mean?

So you could be like, I want this drink plus 30 shots of espresso. Okay. Or I want this plus- I think it's like 30 shots of espresso. Okay. Or I want this plus- I think it's like 30 shots of vanilla syrup. Yes, exactly. So these are some of the drinks people were ordering. Okay, yeah, this will help. A venti nine shot, one pump mocha, nonfat, no whip,

with exactly four shakes of cinnamon. That's something you can do in the fucking app, okay? Here's another one. I mean, nine shots makes some sense to me. I mean, that's just added caffeine. That's just extra coffee. Yeah, for sure. I get that.

Let me get more of seeing it. Are you guys fighting right now? How about this? A cold brew, 10 pumps of vanilla, 5 pumps caramel, 5 pumps classic syrup, 5 pumps more of caramel, 5 pumps white mocha, whole milk, coconut milk, heavy cream, almond milk, sweet cream, cinnamon, vanilla powder, sweet and low,

stevia, splenda, sugar, dark chocolate curls, and extra whipped cream. See, that's what happens when you not get enough pumps in your pussy. To start ordering this wild shit. You need other shit in your life to help you make you feel better. But that's ridiculous.

That really feels like somebody who's taking advantage of the freebies and shit. They're like, you know what? I should put all that shit in there. Like, I don't care if it's. It just sounds like a sad Karen. Yeah. And it will melt your teeth. I mean, yeah.

The teeth. I just worry about people's dental health. I worry about insulin spikes, diabetic shock just happening straight up in the drive-thru another one the thing that was the most absurd to me was called the 2020 someone just get a grande with 20 pumps vanilla 20 pumps hazelnut oh i was hoping it was barbara walters john stossel themed and not not something like that old Old school, her and Hugh Downs. I'm Hugh Downs. But yeah, 2020 is what the fuck? That's crazy. That's not even a thing that I feel is drinkable.

This is what people do when they don't have a personality. Right. They have no culture. I think it... No sense of self. I think this is straight up addiction. Like I think this is sugar. Yeah, it is. Sugar addiction. Like straight up, yeah, sugar being like the thing that kind of you know you're it's like the rat hitting the lever until you get all the all the pellets but

do you what do you think sugar pump withdrawal looks like somebody who's sick off off coming off sugar i mean it's a lot of headaches right it's a lot of just like not feeling like yourself no yeah like no appetite because i because i took myself off of like sugar addiction like years ago. And it's fucking hard. Yeah. Because I was just like, you got to understand, my metabolism has been fucking great. It looks like. Since I was a kid.

It moves at the speed of the Millennium Falcon. It really does. So I can just eat whatever the fuck I want. Right. And sugar was like top. And it still is. If I could have donuts to every meal I would I really would favorite donut

oh god crueler probably and it depends on it's so good wait so what were you at your darkest moment with the sugar just like no water and just drinking soda like that was my water was drinking soda and favorite soda Coca

Cola classic alright i'm feeling spicy get a little cherry coca-cola um but yeah that's what so and i still struggle with it um but it's part of why like i get my coffees with just milk is because i was starting every day with like tons of sugar in my right right right start your day with that shit yeah you know caffeine already is bad enough but uh those that sugar shit it's tough but like because i also get migraines in general so like when i started getting i mean i lost 10 pounds almost immediately and i didn't realize it was just like the sugar that's all it was right yeah the sugar just got off your body yeah it just got off my body and um that so those withdrawals are tough and even now I

I'm like oh I need to eat sugar and I'm not diabetic which thank God right it's seriously thank God because I should be and I actually got tested

which was funny because every time I I'm like can I just get my blood tested they're like you're skinny you're fine I'm like

that's not how anything works fucking idiot you should see me here look at this montage yeah and a doctor just take my fucking blood Oh, anything works. Right. Fucking idiot. You should see me. Look at this montage. Yeah. And.

A doctor? Just take my fucking blood, please. What's your secret, ma? I'm sorry. What the fuck? I'm here because I have really bad headaches. Okay. Go ahead. Go off.

And I like made them test my blood. But that's the other thing is that people, especially if you don't, quote, look diabetic, people will really dismiss you. Sure. And I was like, no one's going to help my sugar addiction except me. Like, nobody cares. Because also the only thing that I would get, which I do have now, is acne. And it's one of those things where people are like, oh, that's it? Good for you.

That's a blessing. And I'm like, that's still not. My body's still reacting negatively to this consumption. And, yeah, and yeah so i think yeah people just have an unhealthy sugar addiction and it's also like it's easy to dismiss sugar addiction because it's not opioid it's not booze it's not drinking and driving right it's just like oh having sugar it's not affecting my job negatively right even though you're a bitch at work, Karen. Right. Fix that. They're like, we're out of Stevia! Yeah.

Just screaming. But you know what? Worry not. For people who are, if your order is a 2020, you can still get that embarrassing-ass drink. You just have to order it in person and say it out loud in front of other people at a Starbucks. That's a great way to shame people into reducing their sugar intake. Well, that was a theory a lot of baristas had who they interviewed when they were talking about this.

They were just like, you see it more in the app because they feel like those people don't have to go and tell a human being, hi, I would like a 10-pump vanilla, 5-pump caramel, 5-pump classic syrup, 5-pump mocha, home-made coconut. Yeah, because it's stupid. It's crazy. Yeah, people would be like, what the fuck?

See, shame is good. Yeah. You do need to bring back a little bullying in schools. Well, yeah, just let you know. At least get feedback from the outside world feedback that's what we call bullying feedback yeah that's what yeah thank you to the woke bully yeah you you rebranded it as feedback uh so i've got some feedback for you i got some feedback push them down that's feedback for you what the fuck is this outfit? Right. That's funny. I'm going to write a bit about that. Give me your feedback.

Thank you. I got some mom, dad, I got some bad user feedback. I got terrible feedback at school. Was it from Marcella? Yes. Your teacher, Marcella? Is that why we have those scripts? Your teacher.

It was Miss Arguello again. Oh, shit. She said I walk dumb. Well, Jimmy, you do walk dumb. Look at your pigeon-toed ass, man. Get the fuck out of here. Were you really? I went to a wedding and somebody's mom

put them on blast that they were pigeon-toed. It was hilarious. Nobody knew because we knew him as an adult. We didn't know that he was pigeon-toed as a kid and she hella put him in she went in on him was this during it was like very sweet yeah they were giving speeches but it was like free speed it was just open speeches which is yeah ridiculous that happens a lot at weddings i hated it it's just non-stop there are some times when it's like a bad open mic yeah and everybody's like oh you know what maybe i don't you know i would like to say something yeah like no no no no the stepfather doesn't

need to say something again yeah and most people don't talk well yeah right and it's like very circular too because everybody's fucked up at that point like you know i just want to tell everybody when i look at these kids i've just been i just feel a lot of love for them exactly like and i got a lot of hope for them. Their back turned to the whole room. Exactly. And I got a lot of hope. And I feel like just to look around, everybody's rooting for you guys. And we're going to...

We just got a lot of love for you guys. And you know, no matter what, no matter what, just look into each other's eyes. I don't know. Yeah. You're just good at this. I know.

He's so good at drunk. Because it's my favorite there is the other thing though too that you said that reminded me out of my face just finger waving i don't know it's this caffeine uh is the like at weddings when like family members go in so hard on the people that are getting married and you have no idea right i saw i'm not gonna name names because i think these people might listen to the show yo i saw someone's sibling do a whole song about how they themselves right and i was like yo that's wild this was like at a rehearsal dinner oh my god if they listen you know they're gonna know yeah they're gonna that's not a

thing that happens they're very specific I went to a wedding on Friday and the bridesmaid, best whatever the fuck that she does, called the best woman, she... Maid of Honor. The Maid of Honor.

I think best woman is a better name. Best woman is better. The best woman was like giving her speech and she was like, and then they went through that breakup

and we all, because we're all comedians, we all booed. We were like, boo! Because he broke up with her and we were like, boo! Because he broke up with her and we were like, boo! Oh, damn.

And she like really talked about their break, because they had like a big breakup. And I leaned over to my friend who was there and I was like, girl, don't ever, if you give us, if I ever get married and if you give us beef,

don't ever bring up the bad times. Don't bring up the bad times. That's not what the wedding is about. Not even if you're trying to juxtapose that with how far we've come. Yeah, no. Just bring those bad times? Sure. Just up the bad times. That's not what the wedding is about. Not even if you're trying to juxtapose that with how far we've come. Just leave those bad times. Sure. Just breeze over it.

I mean, we remember. I think we all remember. Remember when we called you the Zan man? Whoa. You blacked out in the Vegas strip. Shout out to the kid marrow. But yeah, oof. Yeah, weddings are, there's some good times.

Yeah. Yeah, Zeitgang, let us know if you've ever seen a parent or relative single-handedly nearly bring down

a wedding with a speech. My dad was talking about a speech he saw at a wedding recently where they talked about how quickly the woman slept

with the guy. Oh my God. And that weighed into how he knew. Oh my guy. And that like weighed into like how he knew. Oh my God. And that's how I knew that like, very, very strange. That my son was marrying a whore.

Right, exactly. But she was pretty chill. Hell yeah. She also slept with me and your mother. I don't know if you know that. Things got wild in Tempe. Oh man. Tempe.

It was definitely in Tempe Well shit Marcella It's always so much fun having you Thank you I have a tweet I have the tweet to share Yeah Oh hell yeah

Of course you do I usually Ask you first Where people can find you Oh at MarcellaComedy.com And at MarcellaComedy on everything Yeah yeah I have a new series Called You Welcome On AllThingsComedy.com.

It's basically me. It's like a talk show, but it centers women, comedians, and we just talk about pop culture and politics and just anything we want to talk about. It's basically this show but funny. Oh, great. Thank you for the feedback. Yeah, you're welcome.

You welcome. Okay. So check it out on YouTube and allthingscomedy.com. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Yes. Sorry, I'm like jumping over all your cues. No, no, that's okay. I'm doing your job for you.

Please. I'm here to replace you. I'm doing it. Okay, there's this chick I just started following. Her name is Dana Donnelly. Oh, yeah. She is. We all follow her.

Yo, she came out of the shadows. Out of shadows. She's so funny. Her tweets, I'm like, who the fuck is this? How come she's not been on this show? I love a shit-talking woman who's pretty and smart and dumb. I love that. That's my favorite.

Yeah, her voice is so pinpoint locked in. I'm like, I know exactly the world you're coming from. She is doing Women Crush Wednesdays on an upcoming date, I believe in October. I run her weekly in Los Angeles if you want to come to that. Yeah. But her,

the tweet that I enjoyed this week, sure, I may not be great in big group conversations, but get me one-on-one, it's so much worse. I know.

That is, yeah, I also liked that. That was an amazing tweet. She's so funny. Miles, where can people find you? Find me and follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.

There wouldn't happen to be a tweet you've been enjoying. Yeah, also Dana Donnelly. Really? I'm just going to do it. Yeah, because every day I check her feed. Every day? She's so funny. Because there's always something good.

Here's a few of them. I bought a UCB, Upright Citizens Brigade. I bought a UCB hoodie for $45 as a quote joke, which sadly is actually the least amount of money anyone's ever spent at UCB to not be funny. One more, a 33 year old man. I dated clarified to me that his parents do not quote,

give him money. They simply provide him with quote startup capital because his writing career is quote an investment opportunity and i apologize for making assumptions oh man that's pretty good she's great we gotta have her on we're gonna have her you should have her on i think she i was watching some of her stand-up clips she's pretty funny she's got a great voice yeah very locked in a couple tweets i've been enjoying on the ivanka trump is wearing a a dress with like big sleeves sleeves they almost look like cones and langston kerman tweeted the vet put cones on her arms to keep her from jerking off her father. Oh, my God. Wait, that's for real?

Yeah, that's a real dress. How the fuck is that even a... What the... It's avant-garde. I thought I was on drugs looking at that. What the... It looks like... What's that flower? Anyway.

And then Brian Yang at Brian Yang. Oh, God, I love Brian Yang. In response to the Scarlett Johansson defending Woody Allen story, someone trying to play Soon-Yi in the Woody Allen biopic. Brian is so funny. We started in NorCal together. He's great.

Is he out here in LA? Oh, he's in New York. He's super funny. We got to have him out when he comes. Yeah, you should. He'd be great on here. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien. No one asked.

It's true. Just some feedback, Jack. Yeah, just some feedback. Just a note. A little feedback from the woke bully. Some feedback, Jack. I'm going to start singing just like that. Just try to push someone.

Just a little feedback, Jack. She just slid you a note that said, shut the fuck up. Just a little feedback, Jack fuck up a little feedback jack hey uh comment box you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on. We'll do a track by Injury Reserve, a rapping trio who sound like 90s rap that I love. I'm always into people who are down with that golden era.

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