The Daily Zeitgeist - Chem Sex? You're Too Close, Joe 4.3.19

Episode Date: April 3, 2019

In episode 362, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, Bechdel Cast co-host, and frequent podcast host Jamie Loftus to discuss a "chemsex" study, more coming out about Joe Biden invading people's personal space, how authoritarians are bad at politics, Trump's approval rating not going up after the Mueller report, counties with more trees being healthier places to live, QAnon getting crazier, a new true crime podcast television show, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. These Are the Drugs People Like to Mix With Sex, According to a New Study2. Washington Post’s Jonathan Capehart on ‘Close-Talking’ Joe Biden: ‘I’ve Had the Same Interaction’ (Video)3. In Turkey, Brazil, Hungary, and Slovakia, authoritarian populists are suffering setbacks4. Trump Got No Bump From Mueller. He Should Worry.5. Politics Podcast: What Will Biden Do?6. Counties with more trees and shrubs spend less on Medicare, study finds7. QAnon supporters flock to Trump’s rally in Michigan8. QAnoners Say Their QAnon Merch Is Being Banned By Secret Service at Trump Rallies9. Why Won’t the Media Ask Trump About QAnon?10. 'QAnon' conspiracy theory makes appearance at pro-Brexit rally11. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Pastry Chef Is a QAnon Believer12. The murder of an alleged gangster on Staten Island loops in an unexpected figure: QAnon13. Awkwafina & Ike Barinholtz To Produce & Star In ‘Crime After Crime’ Comedy At STX14. WATCH: Avalon - Deadbeat Boy Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Podcasts where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Wednesday, April 3rd, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Hacky Jack O'Flyin courtesy of St. Hannah's Holtus because I was sick with the moves on the Hackey sock and I'm thrilled to be joined by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray

Miles of Gray Miles of Gray Smokin' yay Smokin' yay, smokin' yay, smokin' yay, smokin' yay Every day, every day, every day, every day So meet me at Del Taco so you don't get hungry See you at Del Taco so you don't get hungry And I miss my Uncle Charles

Oh no And I miss my Uncle Charles. Charles. Oh, no. And I miss everybody. Oh, no. I'm found a thing. It's something I'm saying. Wow, I don't really know any of the words. I don't know any of them. And that might be the song I've heard the most in my life.

Yeah. When I had the single, I listened to that probably for a month straight, just nonstop. The only thing I can say is every day, every day we pray. And I miss my Uncle Charles, y every day, every day, we pray. Every day, every day. And I miss my Uncle Charles, y'all, because that was very clear. Shout out to At Crispy Meme Donut, Christy Yamaguchi-Maine. Crushing it. That was an all-timer.

Although, for the record, I don't smoke cocaine. Right. Yeah, that's what I was like, wait, does that mean that you're smoking? Yeah, you can smoke cocaine. Oh, yeah. That's what, you know, how Richard Pryor lit himself on fire. Most people smoke Diet Coke. We call it crack. Oh. Ha, ha, cocaine. Oh, yeah. That's what, you know, that's how Richard Pryor lit himself on fire. Most people smoke Diet Coke. They call it crack.

Oh. Shout out to that Pusha T lyric. Teach me about drugs. I'll teach you how to Dougie later. Yeah. We're also going to teach you about chem sex. The new rage that's taking over America. Wait, but who's that talking?

Who's this other person? This is local news. Oh, who's this disembodied voice? Oh, I see it. That disembodied voice. Hello. Hi. Wait, there's a third person in the middle of us?

Yeah, there's... Oh, shit. An apparition. Are we joined in the third seat by the hilarious first face on Mount Zeitmore? Not that your face is hilarious, but you're a hilarious person. And you're on Mount Zytmore. And she is Lil Zam. She is Jamie Loftus.

All right, this one comes from JustTGZ, a.k.a. in the editorial voice of my dog. My dog sent him this saying, this is not sunny, but this is the a.k.a. It starts now. We gotta build a wall. A feminism army couldn't hold me back. Real bros

bevay my vlog. Taking my time with red pill attacks. And I tattooed on myself men's rights because I can't forget. Uh-huh. Back to trolling, lip-hive minds, give me a cigarette.

Wow. This is really good. To the mensa snowflake, Jamie Christ, just leave me alone. Oh, it's your dog singing to you. Yeah, that's a very layered A. Yeah, very layered. I think the fire department's coming. That's your dog singing to you. Yeah, that's a very layered AKA. Yeah, very layered. I think the fire department's coming. That's my dog.

Set fire to the studio. Red pilling me. Thanks, JustTDZ, AKA. Your dog is red pilling you on that song. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That's a new A24 movie that's coming out.

That's a new book. You just sold a book to Urban Outfitters, right, for the holiday season. My dog red pilled me. Right. Hilarious. The hipsters are eating it up. Illustrated book. It's pretty good.

That actually sounds like some shit to have an Urban Outfitters. My dog red-pilled me. My dog red-pilled me. I mean, it costs like $75, but it's three pages long. But then all you have to do is wait three months, and then you look in the wild sales section where things are like, used to be $80. Now, please take it for three cents. We'll pay you to take it.

Yeah. Do you have a book deal? Do I have a book deal? Yeah, you should have a book deal. That's so nice. Jamie Loftus should have a book deal, listeners. Thank you for thinking I might have a book deal. Hey, Random House, get it together.

Yeah, we're my penguin heads out there. Chronicle Books. Penguin? Penguin. Can we illustrate it? Penguin. Penguin. Penguin.

Get Jamie Loftus a book deal. Hashtag it. All right, Jamie. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners just a few of the things we're talking about today.

Okay. As mentioned, we're going to be talking about chem sex, which, I mean, I don't have to tell you guys about chem sex. You might have to. Everybody knows about chem sex.

And another scientific study that is not about chem sex. Okay. We're going to talk about Joseph Biden Eskimo kissing a second person. We're going to talk about authoritarians being not good at politics, maybe. We're going to talk about Trump's approval ratings and how much they've moved since the bar summary was released. All of that and more.

But first, Jamie, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? So this, I Googled yesterday in a frenzy, so it doesn't totally make sense. Okay. But I searched yesterday, can your landlord die and not tell you? Oh. Because my landlord, I found out yesterday, my landlord has been dead for four months. Oh, no.

And they just told us yesterday, which I was like, is that even legal? Like, can you? But like our checks were clearing because his. Wow. Okay. So there was. We're back. We're back in action.

A little bit of a technical, technical difficulty. Jamie's dog just bit through The mic cables And ended the show Yeah He's been sending A lot of emails Saying he's dismantling The left

One second rate podcast At a time Yeah And I didn't know That he was willing To risk his own life Severed cables With his mighty teeth

He's fine We should let people know Oh yeah It wasn't an electrical cable It was just audio So He was So should I send you the bill

yeah yeah yeah okay great Sonny has a credit card so he does shit like this all the time so he's cancelled he's with Sophie now

yeah that's where all cancelled got changed picked him up and said oh Sonny's cancelled okay so back to you your landlord's dead my landlord died

holy shit this is a really this is an intense episode I know my dog is cancelled My landlord died. This is an intense episode. I know. My dog is canceled. My landlord died. Yeah, like yesterday. So like they came to pick up the check yesterday.

And I thought that he like, I don't know why I was like, oh, my landlord like fucks. But I thought he had a really young wife. But it was his daughter. Oh, no. And she like she's been coming for months now. And then she just like put her hand on my hand. She's like, hey, I just want to thank you again for being so patient during this difficult time. And I was like, what do you mean?

And she was just like, you know, my dad. I was like, who's your dad? Oh, gosh. Oh, no. And she was like, Leonard. And I didn't remember my landlord's name. So I was like, who's Leonard? And she's like, Leonard. And I didn't remember my landlord's name. So I was like, who is Leonard? And she's like, your landlord.

He died right before Christmas. Oh, no. He was really old and he was sick. It wasn't a Christmas. It wasn't that. It wasn't coming down the chimney. It wasn't natural. Gremlin style.

He was the Santa Claus that Tim Allen pushed off the ladder by mistake. Right. Yeah, it happens. But he died, and I didn't, like, I felt weird because I got weirdly emotional about it, even though I clearly had no idea who he was. How much interaction did you have with your landlord? Twice. Once in 2016 when I moved in.

That one was good. Once in 2017 where he was yelling at me, so I called the 40-year-old Dutch guy I live with. I was like, I don't know what's going on. Leonard's mad. Fight this guy. And I hadn't seen him in a long time. And now I'll never see him again. He's dead.

That sucks that that's how you guys left it. R.I.P. Leonard. I know. R.I.P. Leonard, for sure. Wait, so why were you saying it's illegal? Why were you interested in the legality of that? Jamie's always looking for edge. I want to see if I can sue his family.

I just thought that I was surprised that your landlord can die and no one has to tell you. Right, yeah. Because it was just like his daughter started doing it instead. And it was such an afterthought that they were like, he died. I just would have assumed that there would have been an email or something. Right, then I'm kind of confused by her gratitude for you being patient. I'm like, he died. I don't like, I just would have assumed that there would have been an email or something. Right, then I'm kind of confused by her gratitude for you being patient. I'm like, did I miss,

did shit just go by the wayside for the last few months? Well, I guess, yeah. Oh, for real? Leonard let us get away with some stuff because he was old and he didn't really care. So we could kind of do whatever. Like, what does that mean? Like, let Sonny graffiti the walls?

Yeah, like Sonny sort of, we had a, like, Sonny made the house kind of like the Fight Club house. Right, right. Where, you know, people would be standing outside all the time. Real ghost ship situation? Yeah, meatloaf in and out. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, we could run radical order,

but now it's not as cool. Got it. Is it a dog-free household or a dog-free building? I don't, I think technically, yes, but it's like this old house that no one, I don't know. It's kind of like a run-down house. Nice. So it's cheap to live in. Very Fight Club.

Very Fight Club. Very Matrix Fight Club. It's the same house they shot the monsters in, right? Yeah, except they repainted it to be pink and to have bad plumbing. Oh, fantastic. Yeah, it's amazing. All right. Yo, bad plumbing is Oh, fantastic. Yeah, it's amazing. All right.

Yo, bad plumbing is the worst shit you could ever deal with. My palace, man. How is Jorn dealing with the loss? Oh, yeah. Jorn? I mean, Jorn's lived there for nine years, and Jorn was just like, oh, Leonard. That was my Dutch accent. I can't do a Dutch accent. That's very good.

Miles, you were talking about bad plumbing. Oh, no. I was just thinking about just when I've been in places that have had terrible plumbing and times when the sewage was like, I'm about to pull up to your house. Yes. And that's when you're like, oh my God. Yeah. And you see just some of the best and the worst of humanity.

It really brings out different sides of you and the people you live with. Yes. Well, you know, rest in power to Leonard. Yeah, rest in power to Leonard. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated?

Making a day of it. Okay, what is that? Like, if you gotta, like, if any time, like, it's like, oh, I've gotta do something, but it's on the other side of the city. You have to go like, for all you LA heads out there, if you got to go to the west side or something like that.

Oh, we'll make a day of it. What about those who live on the west side? If they have to go to the east side. Yeah. We'll make a day of it. We'll go to Griffith Park. People from the west side don't go east. They don't know because they don't financially need to.

But it's like when I have to go across the city in the middle of the day and then my friend was like, let's make a day of it. Right, right, right. And then I was like, this day is so long. We're running out of things to talk about. We're at happy hours. We're eating fish. What are we doing?

Like it just was – we made a day of it last week and I got very stressed out. What did you make a day of exactly? What was the first errand that then exploded into a day of it last week, and I got very stressed out. What did you make a day of exactly? What was the first errand that then exploded into a day? It is a very funny errand where I had a meeting at the place where they make the Minions. Oh, cool. It was Minions Monday. I had to go meet the Minions, and that was at like 2 p.m., and it was across the city. And so it was like then we had to wait for traffic to clear before we could drive back

so we just we made a day of it and then it became this whole thing and we were I don't know I just Was your friend

in the meeting? No she just was like we can make a day of it. So she came with you though? She came with me. Into the meeting too? Not to Minions Monday. That would have been so funny.

She was just like looking for an excuse or like a way to spend the day on the West Coast. And they're like, oh, are you Jamie's manager? Like, no, I'm just here to make a day of it. We're just making a day of it. Oh, okay. It was fun.

I just like, it's nothing against my friend. I just like, I get so stressed out when I'm not like using my time for good. Especially during the day. With that millennial shit going on. Right. I've got millennial burnout. I've commodified my existence, and if I'm not commodified.

But it does feel weird. It was like 3 p.m. on Monday. I'm like, do you want to get fish? It just feels very laissez-faire. Can I ask where you got fish? I got fish at this British pub in Santa Monica. Kingshead? Kingshead Tavern?

Yeah. By Thirstyhead Tavern? Yeah. By Thirsty Promenade? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was really cheap. So we hung out there. Santa Monica talk. Yeah. And then we went to Muji, that Japanese.

Oh, yeah. I love that store. Oh, on Main Street? Yeah. Love Muji. Oh, yeah, because you're in Santa Monica head. I lived in Santa Monica for like three years and in a 600 square foot house

that had plumbing that, there was a tree growing into the plumbing and so it did not work. We had entire weekends where we had to like run to the Starbucks close by to go to the bathroom. That's how you know Jack's a man of the people. I no longer live in Santa Monica.

Yeah. The man of the people living in Santa Monica. When you're running for president, you're like, I once lived in a bungalow in Santa Monica. Tree growing into my plumbing and whatnot. Yeah. Luckily, the people at Starbucks knew me already, so they would allow me to use the bathroom. Even though they're terrible to people who-

I do that every two weeks because of the fucking plumbing at my house. It's the worst. Listen, it's me, the po bathroom. Even though they're terrible to people who... I have to do that every two weeks because of the fucking plumbing at my house. I'm just like, listen, it's me, the pooper. I'm here. I'm here. I'm going to get a large something and then I'm going to poop and then I'm going to leave. They're like, look, hey, hey, pooper.

Here, take this mop and bucket it. I'm sorry. You're going to have to handle this yourself this time. I'm going to have to start washing the dishes for them. They're very patient with me when I'm the pooper. Aw. What a life. Shout out to Howard Schultz. We don't talk enough about how he solves the world's problems for us.

I mean, he's really got my vote. And Connor O'Malley's vote. Connor O'Malley. That video's so good. We need to share that somewhere. Yeah. This whole thing is amazing. What is something you think is underrated?

Oh, Rasputin's Daughters. Ooh. I'm working on a cartoon about Rasputin's Daughters, and no one really knows. I mean, he had a bunch of children by a bunch of different people, but the children he had with his wife, he had a son and two daughters. And Maria and Varvara Rasputin and Varvara died under mysterious circumstances in Siberia when she was 25 because after Rasputin was like killed they sent I mean they basically

sent his whole family to Siberia because they were just like you know fuck the old guard right yeah so she died under mysterious circumstances some people are like was she killed but it sounds like she might have just gotten tuberculosis but then Maria Rasputin went on to become she would stand her dad so hard she was like Rasputin was magic and he was cool and he was good and then she became a famous burlesque performer

wow and like a circus performer and you're writing a children's cartoon about this no I'm doing like a Beavis and Butthead kind of thing. Oh, really? With Rasputin's daughters? And they're watching just rock videos? They're just watching footage of...

They're like, a GWAR concert would be cool to go to. They're just watching footage of the revolution being like, holy shit. Just the battleship to Potemkin. Just being like, oh, man. Just commenting on footage of World War I. Yeah. But they're super interesting.

Oh, I bet. That whole guy. That whole thing. That whole family. Jeez, oh, Pete. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Oh, if there's a myth that I don't read the Daily Zeitgeist reddit board that's the myth because i do oh no oh i think i'm the only person that's

on there like it's me you're lurking oh i lurk so hard wow so just if you're on the board just just behave just be good there it was lacy texted me about it the other day she's like did you know that this exists? And that sometimes they say nice things about us I'm like, yeah, but I also know sometimes they say mean things about us And those are the only ones I pay attention to And I internalize them And they make me cry They don't make me cry

Redboard? You don't make me cry You don't have that power over me And that's not a challenge to try Oh, Redboard, be nice No, they are nice me cry yeah you don't have that power over me and that's not a challenge to try all reddit board be nice no they are nice it's it's a it's a nice little community over there i just don't trust myself to ever ever ever read comments it's just that's very healthy yeah it's after years of reading them and obsessing over them i'm sure the cracked comments are a doozy christ yeah it was

pretty brutal. Yeah, especially when people started figuring out, wait, are these people progressive? Right. Cracked. Yeah, they got mad. Some people were not thrilled. It was weird, though, because you could see the movement

of people suddenly who were fans of Cracked and had relatively progressive values, or at least they didn't object to our progressive values, then the men's rights Gamergate thing happened. And they were like, you guys are so anti-Gamergate. What's the problem? And it was just like, huh. What a horrible time to be online.

What a time to be online. Yeah, 2014, right? Yeah. But yeah, it's a lovely community community and don't be mean to me yeah yeah also i'm pretty sure christy yamaguchi may is one of the mods on there oh is she okay yeah he i think he at bombing of dresden or bombing of dresden that's the same user yeah i'm learning see i push it together they don't know me either i'm a detective you're lurking too i i don't lurk all the time. But when you do...

No, I actually don't really lurk at all, really. I have so much other things going on in my mind, I wish I could... Wow, brag. I got the time, and I got the bandwidth. No, I mean like chaos in my head, where I'm like, yo, I gotta just take a walk. Yeah. Because guys, it's not easy going through the news

every day and being like, we have existential threats that we're constantly facing, and I'm to just laugh about them. Right. But we do. But we do. And we also go through the news and find out stuff like people are doing drugs and having sex. No.

Including, and get this, hold on to your butts, guys, alcohol. They're taking alcohol and then doing sex with one another. Wait, what is this? All right. Is this an anecdote? Unpack that. Wait, what is this? All right. Is this an anecdote? Unpack that. Yeah, this is something. So I've been observing my neighborhood.

I think this is happening. No, so there's a study in Gizmodo that super producer Anna Hosnia was like, read out loud to us. And we were like, oh, that makes sense that that's a study. But then the more of it that she read, the more it was like just the dumbest, like, I, that makes sense that that's a study. But then the more of it that she read, the more it was like just the dumbest. Like, I don't know.

It sounds like these are aliens who are just finding out how human species work. Oh, so but they're just sort of assertion was like there's a growing number of people who do drugs before. Are they even saying there's a growing number or there? There's a large number of people who do drugs before doing. So the headline is these are the drugs people like to mix with sex. Okay. And one of them is alcohol. No.

And they treat that like a surprise. Right. And even the other one's like, yeah, that probably means you're drunk. And then, again, all of these things, whether it's MDMA or poppers or fucking weed or ketamine. Now, I am just finding out about poppers. Poppers, I get it. In a detailed way. Yeah, yeah.

Jack was bragging about how much he's learning about poppers. Poppers from Las Culturistas. Great podcast, by the way. People should check it out. But it's like one of those things. I don't really know people who are like, yo, we're about to, you want to have sex? All right, let's smoke some weed.

But they do say that weed is mixed with sex. It really seems to me like- It's more like you're high and then you're like, yo. Right. Well, because people who smoke weed are cool and cool people have sex, right? That's right. Is that how that works? Yes.

Is that the equation? I mean, some of us are angst ridden. Right. Oh, okay. Yeah. And we need the weed to have a sort of veneer of cool. Yes. I love veneers.

I know you do. I have found that it's hard to have sex while having a panic attack. So I never mixed marijuana with sex in my experience. Oh, man. But other people, you know, more power to them. It really seems like it's more of a general survey of what percentage of the population uses these drugs. And then, sure, sometimes sex happens on them.

Right. And then they're the ones that are explicitly drugs you take to have sex, like MDMA and ecstasy and crystal and poppers. Yeah. And Viagra. They talk about Viagra. Which is like, how is that even research? That makes sense.

That's the whole thing? That's the point. Yeah. Right, because ED, right, you have to address your erectile. I mean, without those things, my number of sexual partners would be cut in half easily. I feel like that would be true for most people. Yes. I will say, in high school, the thing where everyone was telling each other,

I was like, dude, you shouldn't have sex when you're on ecstasy. You should or should not? No, you should not. You shouldn't? Because it'll be so good that you'll never be able to have a rag sex again. You're only going to be cheming it up. Right. And you don't want to be one of these chemers.

Did they call it chem sex? No. I never even heard of that. That's what the study says. Chem sex sounds like a cop. Yeah, it sounds like a cop is like, hey, guys, we're all going to meet down. The DARE officer is telling you, he's like, no, kids, I want to worry about chem sex. Right.

Exactly. Sex with chemicals. Right. Where you have sex with chemicals. Right. Did you listen? Like, were you like, oh. Yo, it's so funny.

One of, like, the first times I did ecstasy in high school, my high school girlfriend, who was an athlete, she wasn't really doing ecstasy. So, like, I was with, like, my sort of scumbag friends and, like, these kids who did the in high school my high school girlfriend who's an athlete she wasn't really doing ecstasy so like i was with like my sort of scumbag friends and like like these kids who did the drugs in my high school and we just got fucked up on ecstasy and then i called my girlfriend and because she was like she was just finishing like a volleyball tournament or something and she's like oh are you guys partying or whatever so she came with some of her friends and i was like i was like i don't know if i can have sex because i was just like so fucked up on ecstasy i just like laid i was just like

just rub my back so i wasn't even in a place to be like that so it's not even a concern no it wasn't because i was just like peeking and i'm like i didn't even have a Bud Light until I was 19 don't worry man it didn't make me a better person I definitely like when I got to college after college thinking back I was jealous of the people who were just starting to drink in college

that's probably the way to do it even though when I was in high school I was like come on what a bunch of losers interesting you felt that way That's probably the way to do it, even though when I was in high school, I was like, come on. Right. What a bunch of losers. Come on, man. Okay. Interesting you felt that way.

Yeah. I did. Wait, why later on? What was envious about someone drinking later? I don't know, because I was already like- Oh, because you had built too much momentum. I was already in a bad place by freshman year, so I was just like- You had hit terminal velocity for drinking alcohol. I didn't remember most of my freshman year. When did you came to drink your

first beer? Well, I guess I was 18. I drank the first night of college. I'd had sips in high school, but I had my first. I was like, we did it! And then I got really into vodka my freshman year, but whipped cream

vodka. It was whipped cream vodka if i could find someone to buy it for me slash if i could afford it and then other than that my roommates and i had this like leader of mr boston which was like the shitty boston vodka mr boston it was just called mr boston and it would only come in size gigantic. Mr. Boss. We would just nurse a gigantic gallon of Mr. Boss. I know that I took my- Like anti-freeze sized handles of vodka. Right, and then we would just hide it so that R.A. Russell wouldn't find us.

Yeah, R.A. Russell. But R.A. Russell was addicted to drugs. It didn't matter. Right. But yeah, I don't think it really helped me. Were you drinking Pnacle vodka? I was drinking pinnacle vodka. I remember that being the one where they came out aggressively

with flavors and I was like, whipped cream? The whipped cream vodka. What was the thing that was... My mom liked that shit that was blue. What was that? Hypnotic? Oh, yeah, yeah. Hypnotic! Your mom was drinking hypnotic? My mom loved hypnotic. What is she know?

Fucking rap video? She was mixing it with fucking Hennessy. She's like, I only drink Incredible Hulk's. Well, my dad's been sober since 94, and then when he and my mom split up, my mom was all like, she was always fine with drinking, but we just didn't have it in the house. And so when she moved away, she was just like, I got this thing. It's called hypnotic. It's blue. Like, she loved hypnotic. Wow loved that was like single mom was she drinking like alizé before that because alizé was the gateway

to hypnotic no i don't think she was drinking i think she was basically like do you think she went to the store it's like what's that blue one i think she she her whole thing is she's like a it's like a basic mom where she's just like i I like the beach. I like blue because I like moon and the beach. And so she was like, it's blue. I love it. Yeah, she loves hypnotic. Shout out to hypnotic. H-Y-P-N-O-T-I-Q. The most 90s spelling of a word ever.

But like, I don't know. Starting to drink in college was bad in a different way. Because then I was just like, I got drunk so easily. And then I would stay drunk forever. Like, I I was drunk during like I remember being drunk during my my film history final my freshman year on purpose sort of but like I just didn't I underestimated the staying power of boss Mr. Boston Mr. Boston it's weird that like the cheapest vodkas in the world have like their regional because like pop off is the L.A. cheap vodka. But then people on the East Coast have never heard of pop off and they just all drink Mr.

Boston. They all drink. Check it out. Mr. Boston. Yeah. It must be the same. Like they just rebrand it. Yeah.

When you first said Mr. Boston, I thought you were talking about the contestant from i love new york for people who remember that trash all right let's take a break and we'll be right back definitely caruana galizia was a maltaltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. A podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price.

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where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is

unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back. And the Joe Biden scandal is continuing to unfold it's a weird scandal uh because it's all just him being like very handsy and touchy feely in a weird like so he rubbed noses with a person like eskimo kissed a human being right this is the second person who's the second person the first person he planted a long passionate kiss on the back of her head while they're preparing to go on stage this person he

put his face right up on theirs and rub noses with them these are both women who have said you know this made me feel extremely uncomfortable. And then a male reporter, Jonathan Capehart, came out and said, this is kind of a thing that we all, anybody who spent time around him has experience with and shared his own experience. I think we have the quote. As someone who has been in a situation with the close talking Vice President Biden, I have had the same interaction with him, a very intimate reaction. He kissed your head? Oh, no, he put his forehead on my forehead.

It was in November 2017. I had just done a one-on-one conversation with him in Schenectady, and he was really happy with the way it went. And it was his way of, he kept saying to me, you got it, man. You got it, man. And it was his way of he kept saying to me, you got it, man. You got it, man. And it was his way of congratulating me, congratulating us on an event that was well done. This is so weird. like uncalled for behavior from a person who's so powerful that it's like, how explicitly has he been told by the people around him?

Like, don't do that. Or is it the sort of like, yeah, where he's just like too powerful and no one's going to tell him that he's acting like a weird pervert and he's making everyone uncomfortable. Have you ever seen the video where Susie Colbert from ESPN is interviewing Joe Namath.

Oh, yeah, I just want to kiss you. I just want to kiss you. I could care less about the team struggling. That just seems like the general, like his body language, where he's like kind of always on the verge of going in to try and kiss her. But he was fucked up. He was hammered. Joe Biden is sober. This is how Joe Biden goes through life.

It's incredible. You just think it's okay to act that way. He's just like positive vibes, man. Positive vibes, you know? Like, I don't even know where to begin. Like, that's just so bizarre. And it's so frustrating when it's like, just no one's going to tell him. His like non-apology was not good either.

He's not really handling this very well at all yes uh and then like i think one of his spokespeople was like this is a bernie sanders cons like hit job uh-huh and now i'm uh there was an announcement like i think a pro-trump like pack is about to buy put out a creepy joe biden ad huh which is like i'm sorry right joe biden is creepy? He is. Okay. We'll just forget about the president. Yeah. Interesting hill for him to die on.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, sounds like they're going to probably still run, though. Still going to announce. I mean, there seems like one of the things that connects a lot of public figures who end up having success and even CEOs that I've met is they have a insane overabundance of positive energy. Like just they are like, they come into a room and they're just like ready to shake every, it's like Tom Cruise. Like you hear he shakes everybody's hand and learns everybody's

name. And it's just sometimes that, that is very misdirected. And if nobody is there to be like, yo, that was not okay. And he doesn't know what to do with it. It's like he's Lenny in Of Mice and Men. But it was all happening in a time where people weren't having nuanced discussions about behavior like this. And then on top of that, he's just been a powerful man for years. So I don't know who. It would have to have come from one of his kids or something who would have been like, yo, dad.

Right. Don't be fucking, don't be rubbing, don't be rubbing. who he would listen to. Yeah, and can like be candid with him because I don't think,

I mean, who knows, I wonder if Barack Obama was ever like, Joe. Fuck with that, my man. Fuck with that.

It's like, oh, God, shit like that is so frustrating. And it's like the least. Sniff my daughter's hair, man, it's going like oh god shit like that is so frustrating and it's like the sniff my daughter's hair man it's gonna be a problem please stop sniffing malia like yeah there i i don't know it's like and and it would be so easy to just apologize the fact that people are still not willing to like it pay someone to write an apology for them right is so like baffling to me like joe biden probably doesn't get it and doesn't feel that bad.

And he's like, I'm just nice. I'm friendly. I'm sorry you felt uncomfortable. Pay, yeah. I'm sorry. There's people around him who know how to make that apology. Just make the fucking apology. But I think then for his handlers, they're like, no, we can't.

We don't want to make this a thing where you are admitting to it because then that's going to get people. It's just so it's so ridiculous when actually the way through this is just to be like full stop. Yo, I'm really sorry. I've been invading people's personal space. You know, I'm I don't mean it with any malintent. But if I'm sorry that I'm making people uncomfortable, I will completely readjust and reconfigure. This is a learning process. Yeah, I'm making people uncomfortable. I will completely readjust and reconfigure my interactions. This is a learning process. Yeah.

I've learned something here. And it's okay to acknowledge you're like, I'm old. I've been around for a long time and I need to fucking adapt to the code of conduct that is acceptable right now. that I think gets at a deeper issue with him is he seems to be dug in on like these kids these days type corner where he's like not, he's not like I'm learning so much from like all the smart people

who are now like working in the government who are of a different generation than I've ever experienced in my life. He's like, they need to go out and get a job and pick themselves up by the bootstraps. And I do think that that might reflect a larger issue that we might see going down the road in the primary. And I think he just looks at everyone on earth as like his grandchild.

Right. Like that's the kind of familiarity he approaches everyone. Because when you are 7,000 years old, yes, everyone is your junior. Right. To a certain extent. What's funny is like Mika Brzezinski on like Morning Joe was like, you guys are tearing down the one guy who can beat Trump. And it's like, this isn't right. Yeah.

And again, I'm sorry, Mika, but like we have to keep this moving. We need new ideas. We need people who understand what most of the people who are going to inherit the ills of this country are facing. Right. most of the people who are going to inherit the ills of this country are facing. Right. And someone who has, you know, again, as Jamie knows, immaculate teeth. Yes.

Might not be the answer. All the same length, perfect caps. Yeah. 10 out of 10. Beautiful slap. 10 out of 10. Love it. All right.

I was going to ask what veneers are and how they work, but let's move on. That's too much. We will get into that in a later episode. That's a deep dive. I need a spinoff podcast. That's some good. We will get into that in a later episode. That's a deep dive. I need a spinoff podcast. That's some good bonus content. Unfortunately. Wow, yeah. Yeah, I got to go full Robert Evans.

I got to get a second podcast. Veneer Hunter with Jamie Loftus. I'm just going to beat Ben Shapiro's podcast. Fuck yeah. What else? Is Ben Shapiro off? No, he's part two. No, he's got rag teeth.

He's a coward, yeah. He's a coward. He won't step up to the veneers. Let's talk about authoritarians. There's been this big wave that Bannon has been talking about. Talking about chicklet teeth. Yeah, talking about and cheering on for the past four years now of authoritarianism. That's the way to run a country.

Yeah. of authoritarianism. That's the way to run a country. And the results are starting to trickle in of what these countries that are being taken over by authoritarians, how they fare, and it's not great. Yeah, because a lot of it has to do with, to a certain level, it's easy to get elected

because you can just talk shit all the way there. But if you actually don't understand governance and know how to actually run a government, then the results are going to get a little weird. And not to say, you know, I think this is more Slate was kind of putting together sort of just checking in with the state of things. And it seems like authoritarians, you know, they're kind of messing up. So like in Turkey, Erdogan.

Erdogan. This is how we're saying that, right? Uh-huh. Okay. Anyway, his ruling party. My favorite place to buy groceries. Oh, that's Erdogan. Erdogan. That's how we're saying that, right? Uh-huh. Okay. Anyway, his ruling party just- My favorite place to buy groceries. Oh, that's Erewhon. They had a pretty big setback in some local elections, and there's just sort of growing

widespread dissatisfaction because the economy's not doing well, and they're kind of being like, hey, you're leading the country, but what the fuck is going on with the economy? Uh-huh. And they're kind of being like, hey, you're leading the country, but what the fuck is going on with the economy? And even in like the capital of Ankara, the AKP party, they have lost control for the first time since 2001 when the party was started. Is that his party? Yeah. Oh, wow.

So, again, you know, we're starting to see like people are kind of being like, OK, I don't know if we like this anymore. Right. Not to say that all the problems are solved, but we're seeing measurable pushback against this, right? Right. And then even in Brazil with Bolsonaro, again, not that all their issues are solved, and this is not the point that we're trying to make. We're just checking in.

Yeah. You know, his approval ratings have just been in free fall sort of since January, because sort of like Trump, there's just infighting. There's no ability to work with like opposition parties. He can't pass. Like there's a,

like a pension, uh, system overhaul bill that like just can't get pushed through because this does not know how to coordinate. Um, and then also like he had that weird tweet where like he showed the dude getting peed on. Right. And was like,

and he's appointing his friends and family members to key positions so there's also like just like yeah and so people are like what the fuck is you know they're like it's easy when someone's out here be like yo fuck all this and people like yeah and then you get there and you're like ha okay i mean it's just like authoritarians are like all like big dick swinging confidence and no follow skill like mobility right and it's easy to like just be authoritarian because you just have to be a mean motherfucker but yeah sometimes that doesn't work when you have actual problems that your citizens need to need addressed by you as a leader equipped to solve just by like repeating that you're confident right and in the past this is the sort of thing that would get kind of pushed down and you know they would just put send

these people to Siberia like but you know now we have Twitter the the one theoretically good outcome of Twitter there's a good outcome yeah I think you know it's like the green revolution that we were like the promise of social media we will all have these uprisings against uh you know that stuff uh some of that stuff backfired and some of that stuff has not gone very well but uh you know overall there still is an information and communication uh capacity that hasn't been there throughout history. Yeah. And then even in Slovakia, they just elected their first female president. Shout out to Zuzana Kabutova, who's like ran as sort of like an outsider, like how a lot of these

authoritarians are because she was a like environmental lawyer and like was really into anti-corruption. And there's been a lot of uh anger in slovakia you know there was a an investigative journalist and his fiance were killed and so there's you know you're starting to see where like the people are kind of i don't know starting to see what they want to live in there was an authoritarian leader in slovakia before her i guess soon to be former president of slovakia i don't know i mean from what i. I don't know. I mean, from what I understand, I don't know how much he was hated, but he did announce that he wasn't going to run for re-election.

And there were polls that were saying that, like, people in Slovakia considered him maybe the most trusted politician and would have been a likely front-runner. But, again, I don't know. And then the far-right candidate, like the far-right, the authoritarian side, kind of put forward a candidate that was just petered out pretty yeah just smoked in the first round look yeah for any slovakian political

heads uh you know yeah let us know because i'm just out here we're just checking in over here we're just checking in i'm just checking in with you all right i see we're just going like yeah how we doing yeah that's how we do it. And all of this could look very bad in a couple years when they've totally stamped down any opposition and everybody's in jail. Yeah, and they've only hired their family members to not fight them. Right. Their family members are the only people not in prison. Let's talk about Trump's approval rating. Speaking of this, somewhat related.

So I personally was expecting that after the release of the Barr summary of the Mueller report, the way that the news media was responding suggested that there was going to be this huge lift in Trump's approval rating because it seemed like a lot of them were like, whoa, we have egg on our face. We really fucked this one up. And there has been a move of 0.1% in his approval rate. One-tenth of 1%? Yes, one-tenth of 1%. Well, in which direction, though?

Right. In the direction that he was probably hoping for. But it's basically stayed, he stayed 10 points underwater in terms of approval versus disapproval, which is basically where he's been for his entire presidency almost, like from the start. I'm honestly kind of surprised that that's the case.

That it's still there? I thought he would, yeah, I thought he'd be able to leverage that. Well, but I think it's pretty clear people are, like they fall on one side or the other on Trump. Right. So for the people who didn't see the full Mueller report, they're not going to suddenly be like, oh, I like him now. We're like, no, this guy fucking sucks. And all of his supporters there that supports going to just stay the same. Yeah. So Nate Silver did kind of a rundown of this because he, you know, is Mr. did kind of a rundown of this because he is Mr. Polling Data

and pretty trustworthy when it comes to reading polling data, at least. I don't know if he's overall trustworthy. What was his 2016 prediction? It was that Hillary Clinton was like a 66% favorite or something like that. I don't know what Nate Silver

looks like, but I picture him with calculators taped all over his body. Just like, so he's always like, na-na-na-na. He's just always crunching that dude from the infomercials like, do you know how to get government grants for your business? You know, the question marks or the dollar sign seat? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He kind of looks like the Riddler,

but he's covered in calculators. I've always gotten the sense that he dislikes himself an appropriate amount for like... He's not polling well in his own mind? Is he? Oh, he's crunching. that he dislikes himself an appropriate amount. He's not polling well in his own mind? Is he? No, not like he's a depressed person, but he just seems like one of those liberal people

who's like, yeah, well, you know. Whatever we know. He's got to start crunching some numbers on himself. Even though he gave Hillary Clinton the edge, he was one of the few people who, we've covered this before, but he was one of the few people who made it a very real possibility that Trump could win. I remember that. People were so mad at him. Right. And all of his calculators. All his calculator sons.

You get more calculators, idiot. Another point he made is that sometimes it takes a while for a story to fully be reflected, but there has been enough polling for him to, you know, think it was worth kind of analyzing the data and asking the question of why there hasn't been a bigger bounce. And so he has, you know, six possibilities, probably a combination of some of these. People are reserving judgment, Miles, like you said, or at least the people whose minds weren't already made up are reserving judgment. Obviously, the people who are in the 40% of the country that approves of Trump are, you know, even more like psyched that he's dunking on the Dems. But those people were already in his approval base. Yeah, I think if anything, if the if people actually see what was in the Mueller report, I don't think his numbers improve in any way. They're only going to go the other way. But, you know, at the end of the day, we just have to really stress that we just don't know what is in that report. So that's another thing.

Yeah. So basically people are reserving judgment because they don't know. Because we don't know. There's also an extremely narrow range of like where Trump's approval and disapproval goes. They've been lower than this when he openly harms people or associates with white supremacists. The Russia example that really sent his approval low was the Stinky in Helsinki, where he stood next to Putin and was just like, kind of got owned and was clearly a big Putin fan but that you don't have to believe in collusion or you know be surprised by the muller report to be to have that be yeah be like what the

fuck man you're supposed to be a leader who just deboed him on this right it's like what bike and so there's the other one that voters don't think the muller report actually exonerates trump and he points out that you know and this kind of ties into a later one where he says that they don't trust him about on Russia and his attempt to spin backfire. Basically, he came out and said, I've been totally exonerated. And it's like, well, the one quote that we have says you're not exonerated. So it's just like he hasn't done a good job of like he could have been magnanimous and kind of just been like, look, let's move on. Let's move forward from here and see what the report says. But instead, he's been like total exoneration was contradicts the one sentence we have.

And I don't want to move forward. I don't want anybody to release the report, which is like suspicious. It's just like, well, he just did the, yeah. The way he celebrated was like, he ordered like two magnums of Dom P at the club. There's like sparklers coming like, Hey, Donald. Champagne and all over his Donald tits. There's the theory that we weren't exactly expecting too much from the report,

which is something we've always said on the show. Like it's not, you know. A lot of the reporting has been hmm. Then also, there's also evidence that regular Americans who don't think and talk about the president for a living never really gave a shit. Again, look,

Russia aside, there's three billion reasons to not like this president and want to get him out. Right. And then one of the other theories is that, like I said, he could have been magnanimous and found a good issue to pivot to. But instead, he dunked like all over Democrats, like exclusively for his base in a way that was seemed to appeal exclusively to his base and then immediately pivoted to a wildly unpopular healthcare platform of taking away people's healthcare. Let's repeal Obamacare.

So it's just like even if he was going to have a bump, that's one of Nate Silver's theories. But even then, it's funny, even with the Obamacare thing, now he's completely caved because all the Republicans are like, no, please, don't. If you're trying to win, you cannot do this. And now it's like, no, please don't. If you're trying to win, you cannot do this. And now it's like,

okay, well, uh, we've got a plan, but we'll tell you about it after the election. Yeah. A Gallup poll taken in 2018 in advance of the midterms found the Russia investigation ranked the last in importance among 12 issues that Gallup asked

about with 45% of voters saying it was very important or extremely important. By comparison, 80% of voters said that healthcare was important. So it's like, that's what people care about. He went from having a positive finding, he misinterpreted that positive finding in a way that was like, okay, that's somewhat suspicious, and then pivoted to the issue people actually care about and taking the most unpopular. So it's just like, yeah. Oh, I am addicted to watching people self-implode. Like, it is kind of fun. But I mean, this does... I wish the people didn't have to suffer.

This does get back to the issue that I think a lot of people on the left have had. The one kind of big conclusion I've seen people draw from the Barr summary of the Mueller report is that the mainstream media really fell down on how much they got into the Russia thing. And Matt Taibbi was on Chapo Trap House, and he was talking about how this is the one place, the one way to cover Trump that could possibly work to his benefit is cover an

investigation into the one crime that he might not have actually committed like he commits all the crimes yeah but i guess it's weird because like to define it as a crime is already weird because collusion it's you know what i mean like there's the whole like right he's basically saying like like hit him on the fucking tax fraud right yeah. Yeah. Why would you focus so, so much on the Russia investigation when it's not clear that the American people care about that and it's not clear that there is actually a there there. Like there's some suspicious behavior, but we don't necessarily know what was going on.

So like you're really playing a risky game. And his theory, and it kind of makes sense to me is that this is all the mainstream media trying to deal with how wrong they were in the run up to the 2016 election. Mainstream media,

if you're listening, go all in on fake Melania. That's right. We'll get fucking ratings. There's some there there. There is a there there. All right. Let's take another quick break.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And there's another scientific study, not nearly as informative or as important as the one on chem sex. Oh, that people that are fucked up might have sex? Right. Whoa. There's one about how counties with more trees spend less on medicare yeah it makes

i like this study okay so they analyzed nearly every county in the continental united states and they showed that like medicare costs just tended to be lower in these places that had more forests and shrub lands than ones that were just sort of like that had other types of land cover, like just straight up concrete jungles and shit like that. So like better air quality. Yeah. And I think, you know, they also found that like urban and rural counties with the lowest

socioeconomic status appeared to benefit the most from increases in forests and shrubs. And they also just found that this relationship persists even when you look at economic or geographic factors, and it was just sort of like, wow, okay, where there's more green, people tend to be a little bit healthier. Now, they don't go and say that this is necessarily arguing that the presence of the greenery directly lowers health care costs. Just go breathe next to a tree and you will be saved.

I think we should knock down a couple targets and make some, you know, we need more forest people. There's all these forest people in Europe, right? In the black forest. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my favorite drink at coffee. There's a bunch of forests. That's my input. Forest expert, Jamie Loftus.

Thank you so much. But no, but it does add to like this sort of, there's a growing body of evidence that's saying like green spaces are actually really good for just health outcomes. So there's like, there are studies that have shown that people in ICU, they recover more quickly and have fewer complications after surgery if their hospital rooms look out over trees rather than parking lots. And also they say other studies have found that forest walks can influence potentially health-promoting hormone levels or anti-cancer immune cells in the blood. I think it's just good to be in nature, just in general. Yeah. I think it's good for your mental health, good for your physical health.

I used to, there was no woods where I grew up and the only place where there was even some woods was the big graveyard. So my mom would be like, go take a walk around the graveyard. Wow. Get some fresh air. We would just trespass on golf courses. Oh, that's nice. At night, because nobody's out there.

Yeah, no. That's all you can do in LA. Yeah. Well, we would do it because the fairway was like, the grass is nice and low, and we would play soccer on there. It's been like a better, like a professional pitch. All right, let's talk about QAnon. Let's go back to the equivalent.

Paul Sonny's not in the room. The most unhealthy news story possible. They're still on their shit? Yeah, they're kind of somehow getting even crazier. Like the more the story is debunked and the more that comes out that it's like, well, this clearly has not been true. They're just finding ways to reinterpret things or change the story to make it seem like it is true. So let's start off. The theory, in summary, up top,

they believe their opponents on the left, us, that we are engaged in secret child sex rings and that Trump is working with Robert Mueller to secretly purge the world of Hollywood and Democrat Party pedophiles. And this goes back to like Pizzagate. Right. Yeah. It was great when I was prepping for this episode. I'm like, shit, QAnon's only been around for a year and a half. Isn't that crazy? It feels like 900 years.

Well, a lot of it started when he posed with that military family. He's like, this is the calm before the storm. Yep. And people are like, what does that mean? Yeah. Rather than like, this guy could just be, just says shit out loud. Yeah. With no meaning.

Yeah, and it's really evolved. I mean, like, yeah, I think one of the biggest things is seeing more and more Q swag at rallies. Yeah. And how it's like sort of slowly like used to be like, whoa, there's one Q person at this rally. Now it's like, look at all these Q people. Yeah. It became such a problem. And like the people who are actually like on the planet earth in the trump administration we're like yeah we don't this is a bad look for us to have all these cute people at the rally so they

stopped letting the cute people in for a little bit or were rumored to have stopped letting them in you can't really get good uh information out of the secret service oh like secret service was screening yeah secret service was screening people but then like a club they're like all right your outfit's cool yeah what's what's all this shit, man? No, your ratios are too fucked up, man. Right, exactly. Grab a couple females and come back. The race!

But then the most recent rally had a lot of Q people there. Right, in Michigan, right. So they kind of went back on that. And so amazingly, Q, the Q, the guy who's supposed to be like this deep throat figure who is like an intelligence expert. Jack. What did I say, figure? Man, you said he.

Oh, I'm sorry. He or she. I hope it's a woman. I hope it's an algorithm, actually. Q is a woman. Q is a woman. Q is a woman. Q is retweeting pictures of people wearing Q merch at rallies. Like, he's just trying.

It's like a very weird, like, they are just trying to. Thank you. This is very important to feminism. I make room for Q to be a woman. Or we don't know. We don't know how Q identifies. Create space for her. It's just a very,

it's very unmysterious behavior for someone who is supposed to be a like deep throat style operative making covert intelligence drops that he hopes like will lead to a breadcrumb that uncovers the true conspiracy. He's like, Hey, my Q fans out there, check it out. Q's acting like me on Twitter.

Or she is like that. Or she. Where it's like, yo, dope Zeitgang merch. Right, exactly. Let me through that RT real quick. It's like, wow, great shirt, buddy. Q retweeted 40 pictures of people wearing Q merch. Those people, I bet you,

have now been elevated in the Q world too because they're like, you know, Q actually RT. It's like when Ariana Grande retweets a fan. It's like, oh my God, holy shit. What the fuck? She knows you exist. Yeah. See me, sensei.

But yeah, so Q fans see coded references in anything Trump says, basically. And some of the stuff does seem like there's something there. So Trump has used phrases like, these people are sick. And they're like, oh, well, that refers to this Q theory. And it's like, no, that's just one of the 20 words that he uses. But at one point, he also referred to Democrats being on artificial respirators, He also referred to Democrats being on artificial respirators, which at the time Q and like other, you know, Q style conspiracy theorists were suggesting that Ruth Bader Ginsburg was on a respirator. And so it wouldn't surprise me at all if he was imbibing all this conspiracy shit. He didn't know like what was Q and what wasn't.

all this conspiracy shit. He didn't know what was Q and what wasn't. He's just, you've seen him repost and retweet shit that is out there on the far fringes of the right. So it makes sense that that ecosystem is somehow bleeding into his version of reality. Oh boy. I mean, confirmation bias is a hell of a drug. Yeah.

Same thing when I'm on WebMD. i'm looking i'm like yep got that i mean i've got tuberculosis that's sunny got red pilled that way just wow yeah really the algorithm yeah yeah um and then we're seeing it spread to brexit like rallies uh which isn't all that surprising. Wait, what does Q have to do with Brexit? It's just, you know, think about it, man. I think they're in the same family of bullshit. Yeah. But don't they have some...

Wait, but are they following some kind of conspiracy logic to say that these two things are intertwined? Probably because Brexit is like anti the global world order of like you know international politics and international trade and like pushing for a more isolationist policy. And Brexiters don't like the American left so it makes sense that

they would align with anything that was severely anti. Wow. Sell that merch. Trump's Mar-a-lago pastry chef the chef that makes the delicious chocolate cakes that he loves to share with uh world leaders uh is a q conspiracy theorist uh jesus christ like repeatedly posts stuff about deep state liberals and hollywood elites who run child sex trafficking rings and even made a QAnon-themed pastry, which was just like a circular cake with a little sliver pulled out.

It's like a butt cake with one slice. Even the cake guy is a fucking... Woman. Woman. Sorry. Cake woman. I was just going to... We got to get the cake boss in the White House.

Buddy Valastro, front and center. There you go. Wait, what is her Instagram handle? Pastry Ninja? Yeah, Pastry Ninja. Shout out to fucking Pastry Ninja. I mean, that is like, that seems, again, you know, Trump has all these people around him that he has gotten security clearance.

But Pastry Ninja suggests somebody who is secretly sneaking up and assassinating people. And they are making food for the president and the head of China. That's terrifying. Man, Pastry Ninja might actually be on deep, deep cover. Deep, deep, deep. They're like putting razor blades in your bunk cake. That sounds like a 90s teen movie.

Pastry Ninja? You're undercover. So you're going to be, she's a girl, what should we make her? A baker. Right. She's just making fucking Pillsbury instant cakes, and Trump is like,

this is the best shit I've ever tasted in my life. And then there is the story of Anthony Camillo, who is the young man who murdered the mob boss, the head of the Gambino crime family outside of his house, shot him down. And at first everyone was like, oh shit, it's a mafia war.

We're back to the seventies. But it turns out it was a 24 year old who police believe killed the mob boss because he wouldn't let Camillo date his niece. But then when he showed up in court, he had a bunch of MAGA forever stuff written on his hand and a giant Q that he was like trying to show off to the media. So, you know, this could be authentic, although his defense team seems to be using this as like a way to be like, like look he got infiltrated by the hate mob online and that's why he did this it was temporary insanity so uh maybe they put him up to

it it's it's not clear right maybe uh this uh the cali mr frank cali or whoever the dude who got killed was uh involved with the with the child sex ring child sex ring? Child sex ring or Hillary's emails. Uranium One. And all tracks to me. Uranium One. I'm sorry. You're not seeing the bigger picture here.

I'm definitely not. You're not seeing the bigger picture. I'll have my dog walk you through it. Please have your dog dog walk me. Yeah.

And finally, guys, we've really made it as a genre because they are making a new comedy with Awkwafina and Ike Barinholtz about podcasting, specifically true crime podcasting, baby. Yeah. Really? Yeah, man.

It's kind of fun. The script is about a millennial podcast host who agrees to help the convict she's devoted her true crime podcast to to prove his innocence after he escapes jail and turns up at her house which is a funny premise yeah i like adnan broke out of jail and showed up at sarah sarah canning's house was like yo you gotta help me i like i mean i trust aquafina yeah me too implicitly yeah there i i like ike barrenholz too there's a funny story i heard about ike barrenholz that is kind of like it is it's a funny story I heard about Ike Barinholtz that is kind of like it is

super funny to me where he was on like a delta plane and I think that he like was maybe thinking he's a little more famous than he actually is because he was trying to like pull a hat over his head the whole time but no one was like Ike Barinholtz he was just like

like hi I won't say which comedian I heard this from but he was like he was just like, hi. I won't say which comedian I heard this from. But he was just like, hey, could you not talk to me? Because I don't want people to freak out. Oh, no. No one freaked out. And he sat at his window seat undisturbed. Potential friend of the podcast.

Potentially. It's been discussed that he might come on this podcast. Trying to get him. He seems like a super cool guy. We will call him on that shit. I It's been discussed that he might come on this podcast. Trying to get him. He seems like a super cool guy. I think it's funny that he pulled that Delta flight. I'm like, dude, you're like 25B. You're sitting between two babies. Wait, was he in Coach?

Because that makes me love him. No, I think he was in Coach and hiding under his hat, which is like a fun mix. Back with the plebs. But that's how celebs move. We like to hide in plain sight, baby. that's that blocker's life everybody looks at those first couple rows and first oh who's that who's that who's that right you just you're like at the bulkhead look at half sick you wouldn't even know if you were sitting next to nicole

kitman i've never seen anyone cool on a flight because no no celebrities fly spirit that's a problem right yeah yeah no that's that's where you can just, I'm on Spirit 24-7. I know someone who saw- First class, right? Spirit first class? Oh, yeah. With Legro? Yeah.

Right. The one where they don't make you get into a little dog cage. Well, yeah, that's the one. Yeah, you have to put yourself in your own suitcase. Right. There's someone else I know who saw Elizabethizabeth holmes at the airport like a week ago how is she talking she was i she couldn't get close enough but she said her she was with her friend who's also named elizabeth and so she was like okay elizabeth walk a little bit ahead towards

elizabeth holmes and then was like liz and then elizabeth holmes turned around confirmed elizabeth holmes she's with her 27 year old fiancee fiance. Wow. Wild. How old is Elizabeth Holmes? She's 34. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's an acceptable age range. Feminist icon.

Yeah. Is she a feminist icon? No. Aw. Jamie, you do have a- She's a girl boss. Yeah, you do have a show in which you channel Elizabeth Holmes, right? Yeah, voice and all.

And it is playing to sold out crowds around Los Angeles. Yeah, hey, yeah. Everyone should come in New York and Philadelphia. What's it called? Boss Whom is Girl. And are you incorporating the Taekwondo stuff now? Yeah, there's Taekwondo in it now. We're adding a satanic ritual in the next month.

So by the time it gets to New York and Philly, there'll be a satanic ritual and Taekwondo. Yeah, because I saw you in that gi. People were giving me shit because I didn't iron the gi. in the next month. So by the time it gets to New York and Philly, there'll be a satanic ritual and Taekwondo. Yeah, because I saw you in that gi. People were giving me shit because I didn't iron the gi. Well, it looked like it was fresh out the bag. It was fresh out the Goodwill is where I got it from.

Wait, how is it folded so nice? It's like a brand new gi? It was, I think that some Taekwondo studio went out of business or something because there was like 20 of them on sale at Goodwill. Oh, wow. Wait, so what is what does

taekwondo have to do with girls who whom are boss jack i mean the thinking behind it was just like the complete control like control of mind control and so she just like starts her day with like two hours of just like punching of punching bag like so that's and then i have the audience fight me right yeah well jamie it's been a pleasure as always having you hey thanks for having me of punching back. Uh-huh. And then I have the audience fight me. Right. Yeah. Well, Jamie, it's been a pleasure as always having you. Hey, thanks for having me. Where can people find you?

You can find me on the web, on Twitter at Jamie Loftus Help, or on Instagram at Jamie Christ Superstar. And then, yeah, come see Boss Who Missed Girl. Yeah. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? This one made me laugh. On April Fool's Day, at So Alex Goes said,

finally, a day just for us, the fools. And it made me laugh. Ah, yes, the fools. Yes, finally the fools get the recognition they deserve. Miles, where can people find you? You all right, man? man yeah i'm fine what happened uh just we're just talking about chem sex and the viagra thing shit just kind of got real um yeah where was i yeah twitter and instagram at miles of gray so yeah you can find me there um there was uh just again it's just at dan white has just

shit do you know do we know who this person is he's in chicago right yeah he's just a funny person in chicago and yeah i when i mentioned him he like dm'd me i was like hey man thanks he needs to come on this motherfucking show because he's the best these tweets. Sorry for making you sound dumb in my impression of you, Dan White. You're probably not a dumb person. Hey man. I'm Dan. You know, just a normal guy. So this is one from him.

It says, no, I don't believe we've met. Maybe I just have one of those faces. Or perhaps you recognize me from my famous 2008 viral video, contestant gets obvious erection on deal or no deal. Oh, I love it. That really is the kind of shit that was like 2007, 2008 viral videos

that were just like weird. People were just catching shit in the background. Anyway. You can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Let's see. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. At Luis C. Rios 3 tweeted, I can second that Skrillex study because I rave in the forest

and there's no mosquitoes when the music is playing. Which is, you know, he was tweeting at Miles and I because of the story that Skrillex is fighting off mosquitoes. Sean Clements tweeted, am I mad about

politics stuff? You bet your ass I am. This stuff is cuckoo and stacks tweeted do you ever wtf white people even though you are a white people and i do i do often speaking of white people uh somebody really fucked things up for me at home because they were like, by the way, Jack, baby skin is not gross, just white baby skin. And my wife and I have been having, she's been blaming me for every skin condition that our baby has. Oh, shit. Like, no, it's your white skin that is causing this.

And presumably a doctor tweeted that at me. So I've lost that argument. Thanks a lot, everyone. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our...

What? No! Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we write. Miles, was that going to be you? Oh, yeah. You know, I feel like there's a lot of deadbeat

boys in our life right now. And this song goes out to them from the artist Avalon. And this one is called Deadbeat Boy. Okay. Yeah. Well, we're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast and we will

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