The Daily Zeitgeist - Chernobyl Selfies R Hot, Trump Hearts Rihanna 6.13.19

Episode Date: June 13, 2019

In episode 412, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Ellory Smith to discuss selfies at disaster zones, Trump saluting Rihanna, the Global Peace Index of 2019, 2020 polls numbers, why millennial consumers aren't that great, stories from the Radiohead OK Computer sessions leak, the new Mountain Dew flavor, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Influencers Catch Heat for 'Insensitive' Chernobyl Selfies (UPDATE)2. Chernobyl writer urges Instagram tourists to 'respect' nuclear site3. Auschwitz visitors told to stop posing for disrespectful photos at Nazi death camp4. Photos of People Taking Selfies at the 9/11 Memorial5. Wall Street bankers shamed for taking bachelor party selfies with sex doll at Ground Zero memorial6. Trump Salutes Fellow Work-Life Balance Queen Rihanna With His First Twitter Like in Years7. Global Peace Index 20198. More brutal 2020 poll numbers for Trump9. Poll: Biden, Sanders hold double-digit leads over Trump in hypothetical match-ups10. Poll: Democrats have 6-point lead on 2020 generic congressional ballot11. Why Targeting Millennial Consumers Might Not Be Such a Hot Idea After All12. The Best, Weirdest, and Most Revealing Moments on Radiohead’s OK Computer Sessions Leak13. KFC Will Serve an Exclusive Mountain Dew Flavor That’s the ‘Perfect Pairing’ for Original Recipe Chicken14. WATCH: extremely bad man - Up With The Birdies (Instrumental) (Official Audio) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 86, Episode 4 of Der Daily Zeitgeist. A production of iHeartRadio, this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck Coke Industries and fuck Fox News. Fuck off. It's Thursday, June 13th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. It's Thursday, June 13th, 2019 My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. All the guest co-hosts are great

But where the hell is Miles Gray? Where were you while we recorded Zyte? Talking culture down the hall Snooki's letter on the wall I bet Miles was somewhere getting high Today you will find me recording daily zeitgeist because my name is Jack O'Brien my name is Jack O'Brien and I'm white uh that is courtesy of Chrissy I'm Gucci man who said uh i don't know why i announced that

you were white i just needed something to rhyme so i appreciate that christy a yamaguchi man and i'm thrilled to be joined once again by my co-host mr miles sorry tick tick boom with me banging down these back streets bumping black street Treated like a math neat Life ain't a track meet Nah it's a hackathon Fuck the cemetery That a prabble get buried on Okay I'm just gonna keep that there

Because that Ice Cube track One of the first vinyl records I bought When I was DJing in high school And Justin Chen At Just Chen You activated my memory So thank you for that You can do it

He actually has a full 16 bars purse in here. But I already took up a half hour with my AK. Well, no, I mean, I can't. I'm not going to follow up Oasis with that. Out of respect for the brothers Gallagher. How you doing, man? It's good to have you back. Oh, God. Yeah.

You know, thank you for having me back. It was a little touch and go there. You're welcome. You're welcome. Oh, yeah. It was a little touch and go there. You're welcome. You're welcome. Oh, yeah. It was a last second decision. Yeah. I'm glad you bring on back. And I'm glad.

Hey, look. You were fair. You said, look, we'll flip this coin. Right. Heads, you stay. Tails, I'll do what I want to do. That's right. And it was awesome.

Yes. I'm here. Well, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented Ellery Smith. Hi. Welcome. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you for being here. You got any AKs? Nope.

Any nicknames? Nope. Wow, really? Yeah, not a single one. Celery Stick? I get that sometimes. Funny, right? No.

Hilarious. Fairly uncreative. I've never seen someone feign laughter more than she did this. Uh-huh. That was great. Yeah, I mailed it in. Sorry. Uh-huh.

What's your favorite karaoke song? Ooh. Damn. Miles coming at her. Well, that's the thing I always ask when I ask about AKs. I like 9 to 5. I'm a big Dolly fan. Oh, you are?

Yeah. Damn, Dolly fan's in the building. Yeah. Dolly's having a moment right now. She is, yeah. She's having a lifelong moment. Well, she did that, all of the music for Dumpling,

that movie on Netflix with Jennifer Aniston. Oh, I didn't know that. She got that NASCAR. Yeah. I was just talking about me and my weird little podcast world. They just did Jolene on Punch Up the Jam.

Oh, interesting. You're going to punch up Jolene? Me first and the Gimme Gimmes have a very fun punk version of Jolene. It's an incredible cover. Yeah, you can't beat Jolene. And they don't punch it up. They basically talk about how good it is the whole time.

But it makes you appreciate how good it is. The only way you could kind of punch it up is if you do the half speed version. Because that version is... Have you heard of Jolene at half speed? Oh, it's like a how good that is. The only way you could kind of punch it up is if you do the half-speed version, because that version is... Have you heard of half-speed? No. Oh, it's like a groover. Yeah.

Hold on. I have to listen to it. She met a little girl named Jolene, and that's what inspired her to write the song. I know, isn't that weird? It's kind of fucked up, right? And you can tell, that's one thing they talk about in the punch-up.

Oh, you're going to steal all these dudes, man. You dad. Oh, Jolene. You trouble. She was like man-stealer, a little eight-year-old. Partially it was that there was a bank teller that her husband always wanted to go to,

and she was like, I bet he wants to get with this girl. And then Jolene, the name, and all the physical descriptions are about a five-year-old girl, which would be weird if you think about it too much. But they were talking about how the song is clearly from the point of view of someone who's kind of in love with jolene yeah doesn't like she had that hair yeah had that ivory skin because it's just like god damn you're

beautiful oh this is i fuck with this already yeah it's a this is like a smoke-of-blood version. I played this very un-early in the show, but for people who need to know. Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene. All right, so if you're interested in that, just search Dolly Parton Jolene at 33 RPM. This shit is fire. All right, Ellery, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to take our listeners through a few of the things we're talking about today. The internet is pissed off about Chernobyl selfies. We're going to place them in a grand tradition of just shitty selfies at inappropriate locations.

We are going to talk about the president liking the first tweet he's liked in years, and it's a Rihanna tweet. president liking the first tweet he's liked in years and it's a rihanna tweet uh we're going to talk about where the usa ranks uh in terms of the list of most peaceful nations around the world most peaceful places to live can't wait for that not great poliosis uh miles is what you're calling this next segment we're talking about uh polls coming out so many polls they're bad for uh president trump it seems like hey this feels like 2016 all over again i know i remember i still go suppose like you're cooked motherfucker yeah uh but you know but either way still based on what some people are saying i definitely wouldn't say it's a good sign yeah you know and adweek has discovered a secret, newly discovered reason not to market to millennials, namely that they're broke. They?

Yes. We. We. We're broke. I'm actually, they define millennial as 81 and I'm 80. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Oh, so you're generation next? I'm just talking about with this article. Oh.

I'm generation. Also, I look at my bank account and I'm definitely not broke. I'm broke. Radiohead doesn't negotiate with terrorists. We're going to talk about that. And finally, maybe the most important story in the history of the Daily Zeitgeist, the sommeliers at Mountain Dew have blessed us with a new flavor of dew, the first new flavor in years.

Don't even tell them. Stay or stick around. Okay. It's exciting stuff what they're matching it with. I'm acting like we're breaking news. Don't ruin it. Don't ruin it for them. It ruined itself.

That's great. Oh. What? Give us a chance. Let me describe. Yes, please. Ellery, first, we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

I'm trying to buy a shirt that says vegetarian on it. Because I thought that would be funny. So I have vegetarian shirt men's, vegetarian shirt women's, and then I searched vegetarian shirt kids because I'm small. Oh. And did you find? Was it an Etsy store? No, I'm going to have to make because I'm small. Oh, and did you find it? Was it an Etsy store? No, I'm going to have to make one, I think.

Really? Yeah. There you go. Yeah. There's no veg. You just announced a billion dollar idea on AirPod? I'm going to do a cafe press if anybody wants to put in an order. There you go.

Or shit, we should just do it through TeePublic. What if you make that shirt, but then it becomes like the next FBI female body inspector? It's just like popular with like toxic dudes no because toxic dudes are like i don't eat pussy yeah that's those dudes would not be wearing a vegetarian shirt okay there's like a subsect of dudes who will eat pussy like it's a favor to you to like prove that they're an ally i think that that would be i don't know if you remember like off the rip i went down on you like i didn't even ask like i didn't pull my dick or nothing like i ate you out and i'm pretty on you. Yeah. I didn't even ask. Like, I didn't pull out my dick or nothing.

Like, I ate you out, and I'm pretty sure you came. So that's why it was cool that I called you a bitch in front of everyone at the movie theater. Like, whoa. Wow. You're describing three of my ex-boyfriends. Yeah. Or me at 20.

What is something you think is underrated? Something I think is underrated? Spoilers. Spoilers are underrated. Yeah. I think a spoiler. I thought you were going to do, like, spoiler alert. No, no, no,ers. Spoilers are underrated. Yeah, I think a spoiler... I thought you were going to do, like, spoiler alert. No, no, no, no, no. Here's the thing, right.

I enjoy spoilers because sometimes watching movies makes me anxious. Yeah, me too. Because, like, if I don't know what's going to happen, I can't, like, enjoy the ride. Sure, sure. So I like to Google the end of a movie before I go see it. Wow. So you and Jack are very similar like that. You're the first person who I've heard say that.

And one of the first people who I've ever heard who doesn't think that that's a completely insane thing to do. Yeah, people get on me about it a lot. But it lets me enjoy the craft of the thing. Right. You can appreciate it more. I get to enjoy the details right away. My dad is the same way. What's going to happen is distracting.

It is distracting. And it's also panic-inducing for me. Yeah, I suffer from movie-based anxiety. That's the sort of soft boy that I am. I don't know if I told this story 300 times before, but I saw the movie Seven in the movie theater with my dad, and he screamed so loud.

I don't know if you remember all the specific sins from that movie, but there was sloth. Remember, it was a dude who was on the bed, and he was basically a decomposing human. I thought he was on the... There was also the gluttony, right? That was the one who had a bunch of

force-fed canned spaghetti. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, Sloth was a dude on the bed and there was all those air fresheners hanging from the... Yeah, and the part when he wakes up, my dad shrieked in the theater and it was me and my friend

and we were 12 at the time. We were so embarrassed because he literally went like full on half the movie theater was like checking on him and then my dad always said he's like this is why I don't like these movies man because like I have to when I don't know I'm in such a like elevated state of

anticipation anxiety when those releases come all bets are off and it's shriekfest 97. I think whenever that came out. But that contributes to an overall sense of dread, which is the goal of that movie. Yeah.

I can't watch that scene now and not have that reaction. Yeah. You definitely brace yourself. Yeah. I'm also a little bitter about having my emotions manipulated, which I understand

is the point of this. Right. Which is the whole point. Oh, I see. which I understand is like the point, which is the whole point. But I'm always like, you're not going to get me. Like, fuck you, man. Yeah. Don't make me feel about this.

Wow. So for you, that's your resting control. Yeah. You're taking it back. You're saying, well, hold on. I know what happens. Yeah. So I'll decide how I react.

I'm not going to be on this ride. Yeah. Wow. You can't get me. Okay. What's your favorite movie? What's my favorite movie? Probably Sunshine Cleaning or Little Miss Sunshine.

You just, anything with sunshine. Anything with sunshine. Well, one is like the Amy Adams Emily Blunt movie. Yeah, yeah. Where they like our crime scene cleanup. Sure. People who are also sisters. It's a great.

Is there a mystery film, a film that had a twist ending that you liked ever? I don't think. I'm not a big movie person. Great. Yeah. There you go. So do you look up spoilers to like regular TV? No, I'm less likely to do it for TV.

Oh, gotcha. Because I think maybe I care more about TV. Also, I have more invested in sort of character development in TV, whereas with movies, like because it's so much shorter, you're on an expedited... Accelerated track. Yeah, for sure. What is something you think is overrated? Christmas.

I think Christmas is extremely overrated. Wow. Yeah. You and I are not alike in that. Oh, my God. Is that against God, is it? It's against Christ, yes. Christ, Mass.

Jesus is the reason for the season. Putting him back in Christmas. What is it about it? Like, you just don't like the... I think it's a lot of... I think the whole season, right? Because it goes from, like, November 1st until January 1st, right? So, like, just the whole season is so wrapped up in expectation and also, like, capitalism

and consumerism. and also like capitalism and consumerism. And it's horrible and it makes you feel like if you don't have family, if you don't have a place to go during those months, right? It makes you feel like you're not included in the sort of sentiment of the season. Right. And it's really just about like performatively

showing your family how much you love them even if you can't actually stand them, you know it requires like a lot of travel that i personally find pretty stressful yeah i'm definitely too selfish to take those expectations on because when it's christmas season i'm like this is my excuse to dress like fucked up like sweatpants all day and watch a bunch of dumb fucking movies you're like reclaiming it for self-care. Yeah. Yeah. Whereas I have like family all over the place.

I'm like running around trying to make everybody happy and like show up to everybody's Christmas. And that's, you know, I think that's my privilege with my dad's side of the family being pretty centrally in Los Angeles. Right. And then my mom, everyone on that side lives in Japan. Yeah. And they don't fuck with Christmas. So it's not like they're like, you're not coming for Christmas.

But the New Year's, they're like, wait not coming for Christmas but the New Year's are like wait are we going to see New Year's but you do go over to Japan around the holidays yeah because New Year's is a big holiday

and I like to see everybody and you know checking on my aunts and stuff yeah I do think that probably not having anywhere to travel

besides the coolest place to travel to probably helps with your Christmas holiday celebration. Sure, sure. And, you know, just think of Santa Claus, you know, because... He needs some milk! What?

I just wanted to use that drop. That's what I'm about to do. To go with those cookies, yes, yes. You know, he needs some milk. I'm sorry, I'm abusing the soundboard right now. Ellery, is there a holiday you really like? no I have a similar feeling as around yours

I like Halloween a lot I feel like I can fuck with Halloween great movies there's like a lot of camp involved yeah yeah yeah yeah okay

what about um nah the other ones are just drinking holidays yeah I'm also like not a big drinker so I'm just

I'm not really a holiday person do you uh and you have to travel back. Is your family still in Albany? So this is really about Albany and you hating Albany? Sort of, sort of. My mom moved to a small town in South Carolina, and my sister lives with her husband in rural New Hampshire.

Damn. Yeah, so I'm traveling to a lot of red states. All the highlights. All the highlights. All the highlights. It's a lot of – I have a very complicated relationship with it because it's, I come from like a fairly conservative family.

And so in LA, I get to mouth off like all day long about things that I believe in. And then I go home and I have to like button up a little bit. And it's harder to. Bite through your tongue. Yes, exactly. Yeah. A little blood coming out of your mouth. Yeah, I'm bleeding from the mouth.

Oh, really? Are you feeling okay? No, go on about the fetal heartbeat. Immigration crisis. Yeah. Absolutely. And finally, what's a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false or vice versa?

I think the myth that like with enough hard work, anything is possible is like sort of a toxic one. Yeah. Because it's just it's a ratio of privilege. And it's also specifically like in entertainment, it's a ratio of how often just like being in the right place at the right time comes into it. And it's also it sort of like undermines actual hard work, because you can get into a cycle where you think that you're not doing enough. So I think that's one that I'll. Yeah, no, I think that is one of the biggest and most pervasive and toxic myths in the United States. Yeah, yeah.

The bootstraps, like ratio algorithm. It's a crazy pervasive idea that I think you can internalize and then weaponize against yourself in some pretty harmful ways yeah and then you know people like steve jobs's biographers and like all the people who write this who tell the story of like huge uh accomplishments in american history just write the people who helped them and all the people all the privilege and head starts that they have they just write those things out so absolutely people get screwed over and it ends up giving us this ideology of like like where where i don't know like the way i was raised like culturally i i feel like like collectivism is like so foreign to my mindset and that's i think that's a bad thing yeah i think uh absolutely, absolutely. I think specifically Americans maybe

have a hard time with, like, collaboration as a goal in and of itself. Yeah. I think that's something

I had to learn in working with TV. It's like, your ideas are not paramount and nor will they ever be. The paramount is the collective, right?

It's about, like, what we can all do to mold and to punch up this one thing that we're working on together. Right.

And that's sort of like a separate topic from like you on your personal endeavors thinking that if you work as hard as you can and like burn the candle at both ends, you'll eventually get what you want. Right. Which is sort of like setting yourself up for disappointment and not taking into consideration the fact that people are starting at different points. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Ugh. Ugh. My bootstraps broke off a on them just too hard too hard yeah luckily someone's just discovering me on the street yeah i mean gave me this podcast the idea of pulling yourself up by your bootstraps is physically stupid it doesn't even really yeah it doesn't make sense but i think the original idea of like well yeah just pull yourself up by your bootstraps. It was that that's impossible. That you need people to help you. It's an idiom we all got wrong. Right.

Yeah. There's tons of those, too. Yeah. Why don't. I love thinking about that. Somebody was saying it sarcastically. It became this pervasive ideology that somebody just misread. It's like, think about that.

Right. How are you going to pull yourself up by your bootstrap? That's my impression of somebody pulling themselves up by their bootstraps. I think it's that. Right. How are you going to pull yourself up by your bootstrap? That's my impression of somebody pulling themselves up by their bootstraps. I think it's that, well, they're like, I mean, people clearly research this a lot because they're like, what is the origin of it? It says it refers, of course, to boots and the straps that some boots have attached to help the wearer pull them on and to the imagined feat of lifting oneself off the ground. The internet is not good at finding origins of anything.

They just have so many false leads. It's just like I'm trying to think of what you could say now that is just as like completely devoid of any kind of like logic or science behind it of lift physically pulling yourself. Anyway. It's sort of like the ultimate platitude, right? Yeah. Right. It's enough to get you thinking. And then the second.

Yeah. And then it's like, wait, that doesn't track my bootstraps it's sort of like saying time takes time right yeah it's just like no shit but don't it yeah but don't it yeah ooh think about that yeah i hated that uh let's talk about chern selfies, guys. What does that mean? I love it. Chernobyl. People are going to Chernobyl following, you know, people like to go to real life locations from their favorite TV shows and take selfies like the Seinfeld coffee shop. Sure.

The Tanner House in San Francisco. Sure. Chernobyl, because there's that HBO series that we're still not discussing in detail because I'm waiting for Miles to watch it. I will watch it this weekend, don't worry. I have time socked away to go into a very dark place. Yes. But the real-life Chernobyl, the exclusion zone,

has seen a spike in tour bookings 30% more than usual in May and 40% during the rest of the summer months. And that's off the strength of the show. I mean, people are assuming. It must be. Yeah. Unless there's some other reason Chernobyl's really in right now. Really hot right now.

Yeah. And people are taking smiling selfies all over the place there. The showrunner had to come out and say, if you visit, please remember that a terrible tragedy occurred there. Comport yourself with respect for all who suffered and sacrificed. Is there like a specific spot they keep going to? Is there like a memorial thing or they're just sort of like pointing to like a sign? I think it's probably that.

Like the reactor. Right. Like this dude's skin melted off here. Ha ha. Lol, lol, lol. Please like. Hashtag melted skin. Hashtag Chernobyl. Hashtag Chernobyl.

Hashtag HBO. Hashtag please like. Yeah. So you were telling me about a habit that you have. Yes. A semi-annual habit. Look, I studied history in college. I think history is very important.

I respect history. And this is a thing of people taking inappropriate ass Instagram photos at every imaginable kind of place. Especially ones where like awful shit happens. inappropriate ass Instagram photos at every imaginable kind of place. Especially ones where like awful shit happened. Are there 9-11 selfies? Like where the World Trade Center is? Oh, Jack. Regale us with the tale of the bachelor party. The 9-11 memorial, despite being a place specifically for quiet reflection,

and the whole design is made for a quiet reflection, is often filled with tourists grinning for selfies. And in 2016, a bachelor party took selfies with a blow-up doll there. You're kidding. Yeah, of course. Because where else would you have your bachelor party then? 9-11, dude! Can you imagine what kind of witty caption?

They're like, dude, this is ground zero for the end of Brett's fucking life, dude. Inside blowjob. Yeah, exactly. Inside blowjob. Yeah. Inside blowjob. Damn. That's why she's writing for TV. Let them know. No.

So another thing, you know, I remember a few years ago when the Holocaust Memorial went up in Berlin, there were a lot of people being like, please stop planking on it. Stop doing yoga poses on it. So every now and then I check in on it. And Jack thought I was joking. I have screen grabs from January when I was looking at it last with some of the more fucking weird like just inappropriate shit. Again, this is a

memorial to the Jews that were killed in the Holocaust. That seems so obvious. It's so obvious. But when I went to Emerson College in Boston, there was like a famous Auschwitz museum there. And two kids were gone having sex inside of it. No.

Yes. In the fucking museum? Yeah. Well, it's like an outdoor – it's not a museum. It's like a – Right. Yeah, whatever. It's like a – yeah.

Right, memorial sites. Exactly. It's like a memorial site. It's outside. It's sort of like a little parky but not. Sure. And yeah, two kids were having sex there. And it's just like so interesting to me, the things that seem obvious that are not.

Right. Like how tone deaf people can be. Well, I think this is why. So, for example, this is one. Again, this woman looks really cute there. She has the location tagged. Ellery, can you please read the caption of that photo? So this is a woman looking cute

at the Holocaust Memorial in Germany. It says, what a time to be alive. Dash Drake. Put a motherfucking Drake quote. Memorial to the murder juice. You tag that photo there and your caption is, what a time to be alive. Drake.

What a time to be alive also. This is another one. This is another one. This is another dude. That dude is just showing off his biceps. He's flexing in the thing. Read this caption. Respect to all the lost souls. Hashtag Peng Berlin 2018.

This is like his trip or something. Hashtag Peng Aura 2018. Hashtag Peng Germany 2018. This guy, okay, and then just one last one um this is another one just a woman flexing in her like burberry outfit looking really cute and then this hashtag just says hashtag memorial to the murdered jews but she looks like she's doing like a fashion like outfit of the day type but anyway the point being being. Everything is content. Yeah, no, exactly. And I think that's where you go to these places which are meant to sort of inspire reflection or be like, wow, this is a significant thing.

But we live in an age now where like, I can get some likes with this. Oh, absolutely. Like, let me just turn my hip out in front of the hashtag Memorial for the Murdered Jews of Europe. If a quiet reflection falls in the woods, you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Nobody's around to see it. And will it get likes? Does it count?

Yeah. Auschwitz in particular has had to ask people to stop balancing themselves. I think this means like planking on the infamous railway tracks that lead up to Auschwitz. What? You should be honestly like. But. So this makes me. That one one is particularly horrible, right? What the fuck is wrong?

This makes me despair for you guys' generation. Oh, by one fucking day over here. Speak for yourself. I'm Gen Z. Okay. Oh, yeah. You probably are Gen Z. No, I'm not.

I'm the last year. This show spans three generations. But this is actually something like our writer, J.M. McNabb, was pointing out that there's like souvenir stands all over Chernobyl, like fridge magnets, radioactive ice cream, canned air. Canned air? Yeah. Shout out to that entrepreneur. There's a t-shirt, radioactive wolf, Chernobyl. And then the world's most depressing snow globe.

It's a snow globe of the factory. But then the snow is black. So, yeah, it looks like nuclear fallout. Fun Christmas gift for everyone. You can monetize anything. Yeah. Yeah. So we've been terrible since the beginning,

I think. Yeah. Well, also the invention of, there's plenty of nine 11 souvenirs, you know, every place that deals with money, never forget any capitalist places,

monetize anything. Also we monetize. If we think about like the onslaught of, uh, true crime documentaries and pedophilia documentaries, like we are, we are not, we are almost constantly trafficking in tragedy.

Yeah. So it's not, this is like two steps away from that. You know what I mean? Yeah. I feel like some true crime, at least you can tell yourself you're trying to create meaning from like the truth of the situation.

Whereas a snow globe doesn't create as much meaning, but maybe it does to some people. I don't know. I mean, I think at the end of the day, like you're using this awful shit and the trauma of other people to be like, yo, you want to see something? Exactly.

It's like a rotten.com culture. It's basically, hey, you want to see a dead body? Yeah, exactly. And imagine if that dead body was your mother. You would be fighting people up. Get the fuck out of here. But again, you know, please have respect at the very least at memorials.

If you want to do something wild at the Statue of Liberty, fine. Yeah. You know, but at the end of the day, got to do it for the likes. That's the culture. For the gram. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. quick break we'll be right back Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017

was murdered there are crooks everywhere you look now the situation is desperate my name is Manuel Delia I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti.

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I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.

She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network,

iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.

I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her.

What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back. and we're back and uh real quick donald trump has liked his first tweet in years uh he's very active on twitter but he doesn't like things because he's i guess dead and empty on the inside

but uh the so he liked a tweet uh and i'm just gonna read it to you guys uh it is a tweet that says every new rihanna interview makes me grow stronger. We stan a work-life balance queen. And then it's a screen cap of a quote from Rihanna that includes the phrase, Just like I nurture my business, I need to nurture personal time as well. Rihanna told Paulson, I'll shut things down for two days, three days at a time. On my calendar, we now have the infamous P

which means personal days this is a new thing so it's presidential time the P for him is presidential time executive time he gets a lot of that what was the last tweet he liked before this I don't know it's been years

like literally years and years it's been oh that's see he's going he's going through it he's absolutely he's going through it he's even interactive like take time for yourself queen yeah exactly it's all about stuff yeah he has eight likes total before that september 1st 2017 it says please after several typos he's just not presidential material it's like in response to something, I think, George Papadopoulos. No, Trump tweeted. He liked it. Dude, his tweet. He likes his own tweet. Any sense? Donald Trump, 2013 before that, Donald Trump issued a statement on Ted

Cruz's birth certificate. And it's like a photo of him saying, Nixon was a quitter. I've done twice the bad stuff he did, but you won't see me resigning. Cool. Okay. Yeah, so maybe not the best way to gauge what's going on in his inner life, but yeah. It's just good to know. And also, I do stan

a work-life balance queen. Yeah, you have to. It is a good reminder for all of us. It is. I wondered if he went to other people and was like, you see, but Rihanna can do it. Right. What's the problem? People love her. I get in trouble, but Rihanna gets away with it.

Okay. Yeah. I got a new song coming out called Turd Boy. He's definitely aging the least of any president in the history of the president. Of course, because he's making it work for him at the detriment of the rest of the country. He also came in so incredibly aged, so it's hard to heighten that.

Yes. He does have all sorts of smoke and mirrors worked out. Oh, man. I just want to take a makeup wipe to his face. I know. Well, I just want to fill in around. Like, whoever his makeup artist is, is absolutely dogging him. Does he do his own?

Doing him so dirty. He must, because there are some serious oversights, especially around his eyes? Doing him so dirty. He must because there are some like serious oversights especially like around his eyes. He doesn't blend. He does not blend. His face and his neck. Hello beauty blender

can you send him a beauty blender? Yes. Sponsor him. But I can't imagine that he would I feel like he would not do his own makeup. Maybe he likes Fenty gal.

He likes Fenty beauty. I don't think that they make orange. Yeah. It's not for him. She knows that's not a skin color. Or he was trying it. He's like, Rihanna, I really think you should consider expanding the palette of colors you offer for your makeup.

I was a big fan. Guys, it's the moment we've all been waiting for. The 13th Annual Global Peacefulness Survey. And... What is it? They rank countries around the world by how peaceful they are. Oh, shit. Based on militarism, internal confidence in leadership, internal confidence in institutions.

Yeah, it's not our strongest event as a country. The US is ranked 128th on the list. 128th? 128th. What's the bottom? The bottom is Afghanistan just replaced Syria. 128th on the list. Yeah. 128? 128. What's the bottom? So the bottom is Afghanistan just replaced Syria. Yeah.

So. And we might as well just add that to our, tack that onto our score. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Since we caused that. Yeah. So really, I think we're number one. So other Western countries, Australia is 13th. Canada, I think, is fourth.

Germany, 22nd. Britain, 45th. And France,ance 60th who's number one uh number one is iceland damn good for them because they're fucking tap waters like we would pay seven bucks a bottle for i know oh but some of the factors they take into account are death from conflict perceptions of global leadership leadership, and that last one's the one where the U.S., they have a line graph of that, and everybody else is just kind of going along at the same pace, and right in 2016, the U.S.A. just falls off a cliff.

It's like a really sharp drop. It's really more pronounced. Yeah, interesting. Oh, boy. Well, you know. Yeah. Well, let's see what happens. Interesting. Oh, boy. Well, you know. Yeah. Well, let's see what happens next year. Oh, jeez.

Can you imagine? You think we can go lower? You think we'll... I guess... I think the show will still be around if the Earth is still around. Will we go up or down? Projections. What?

Can we climb up the charts? Do you think we can... 2020? Yeah. Yeah. If we don't elect Donald Trump again. Well, by this point, I figure it'll come out around this time next year. So he'll still be in office. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, I think things can get a lot worse. I think things can get a lot worse. I don't think we've even seen the beginning of the fucked up shit he can do. Sadly. 2020 is going to be a nightmare. It's already a nightmare. Right. But if he loses,

I don't think he's going to leave peacefully. And I don't know. This is something that you can just kind of generally feel in the ether of day-to-day life that if you travel abroad and there's just a sense of peacefulness or that you're not physically threatened or that like you don't have to assume one in every 20 people you pass is armed like

there you can like feel that in oh yeah just like your day-to-day life it's wild when you go to countries like that and you're like damn there's no like collective tension like you just step off and you're like there's like sort of a tangible dread yes like america oh 100 yeah anyways uh let's talk poliosis miles yeah uh let's that's a new segment we're going to do talking about the polls um and and also scoliosis awareness uh but yeah so politico just did a new poll testing people on these hypothetical 2020 head-to-head matchups just to see kind of okay like if it was today who's gonna win oh man and not good for trump but again we don't know what this really means because it's still what fucking 18 months away yeah or 13 months whatever it is so head head to head, Biden and Trump, 44% said they would choose a former vice president.

33% said they'd vote for Trump. 24% said undecided. Against Sanders, 42% against Trump, who had 32%. And then against Elizabeth Warren, statistical tie. Then, even when you go down to some of the other candidates like Kamala Harris and Cory Booker or Beto O'Rourke, just small leads, nothing significant. And they also note that in all of these matchups,

Trump never got over 33%, even though some of these Democratic candidates were getting into the 40s. And there's a couple of things to keep in mind.iden is not going to keep this momentum up the whole time as people put him up next to other people and they're going to be like say words about your beliefs this time just being like blandly presidential in people's memory yes is not something that's going to hold up well when it starts. I'm not sure who the fuck thinks he's going to bring revived bipartisanship to DC. Like what, again, like all the people he's pointed to is like,

I worked with so-and-so. I'm like, you're talking about 30 years ago. Right. This is a new game, baby. They don't play. It's just age-based people who most of their life was before shit went terrible. And also the other thing, you other thing to keep in mind is that people are about 70% satisfied, happy about where the economy is right now.

Yeah, but people tie the economy to the presidency in a way that just is not actually true or reliable. Does that make sense? For sure, yeah. Right? Like they associate the two things even though they almost never sync up and have not so much to do with one another. It's weird. two things, even though they almost never sync up and have not so much to do with one another. It's weird.

They'll connect it when it doesn't need to be and then not make the connection when it's absolutely imperative that you understand that there's no connection there. Like, I remember like when Obama came in, they're like, well, look what he did to the economy. He just started. I'm sorry, my man. That's not how the economy works. His shift just started and he came in with a mop and was like, what the fuck happened

in here? Very similarly, when Trump got in office and people like, oh, the economy is turning around. But that's because of Obama's policy. Like, if we wait a few more months and see what happens with the tariffs, it's going to go down. Right. And now you have Trump being like, OK, well, look at the economy now. Now he's really trying to make that connection. I mean, so we'll see what like if I mean, I doubt he's going to actually kind of have any kind of coherent messaging around like how good he is. Yeah, I'm actually very interested to see like what his campaign because it looks like at this point there's no other Republican nominee.

But like I'm very interested to see like what the Trump campaign looks like going forward, specifically because right now pretty much any of the Democratic candidates could run against him and we could have an election and it would be competitive, which is saying a lot because there are like 25 people running. Yeah. So many. Well, that's why we'll see those two debates. There'll be two days of debates just to fit in like those 20 people that actually get in. The other thing, though, too, looking at a lot of the stories around this polling is that this isn't good news,

especially on top of that, there's even more polling that was showing that he's losing his grip on some of those swing states that delivered him those electoral votes. And this is from The New York Times that, quote, after being briefed on a devastating 17 state poll conducted by his campaign pollster, Tony Fabrizio, Mr. Trump told aides to deny that his internal polling showed him trailing Mr. Biden in many of the states he needs to win, even though he is also trailing in public polls from key states like Texas, Michigan and Pennsylvania. And when the top line details of the polling leaked, including numbers showing the president lagging in a cluster of critical Rust Belt states, Mr. Trump instructed aides to say publicly that other data showed him doing well.

Burn it. Also, Democrats have about a six point lead on a generic congressional ballot. So, yeah, I mean, mean oh boy this is what i'm saying like there's a lot of shit going against him at the same time the only uh incumbent to lose an election was george hw bush and that was when the economy went to shit um at the on the other hand at this point during his presidency ge George H.W. Bush's approval was plus 56. Trump's is minus 11 right now. Hey, man.

Chin up. Chin's up, my man. You should tweet that at him. I don't. I stopped tweeting. I used to just ask him if he eats pieces of shit for breakfast every time he tweeted but it got it was too much no not that didn't get old i'm very juvenile and i'll die doing a terrible bit uh yeah i just didn't have the energy to keep up with all the shit that was being tweeted but yeah i think again

that also points to when you look at this right he's losing those pieces of the puzzle that help to keep him in office which keeps the threat of all his legal troubles, you know, at bay. And that's why I'm curious, like as, cause clearly like when you read things like this, he's now in that part where he's slowly entering the denial phase of being like,

Oh fuck. Like, don't tell me that. I don't want to know. But, and then that's what I'm curious to see as things become more desperate, how even more desperate the kind of shit he'll do to distract and try and keep some kind of hold.

And again, as he said before, he's always talked about, he's teased going to war as a way to stay in office. And that is a frightening fucking thought. Yeah. I mean, that is why Bush one's approval was so high at that time.

It's because he just started a war because the media at the time was calling him a wimp, literally. Right, and goaded him into it. Show you wimp. I'll show you wimp. Do some war crimes. Yes. Let's talk about Adweek, guys. We look to them for any reporting about millennials and young people in general.

Adweek generally has their finger on the pulse. So they published an article. I'm just going to read the headline and subhead to you. It's so aggravating that this is even an article on Adweek. Yes. Why targeting millennial consumers might not be such a hot idea after all. And then subhead. A growing body of evidence shows why Gen Y consumers aren't ideal because many of them are broke.

That's the subhead. We're ruining everything because we're broke and can't buy anything. But then I like even how Adweek is like, here's the deal. They're the problem because they're broke. Otherwise, the consumer machine could run fine if they weren't. Yeah. It's really interesting to read all these things that we've known are true and have talked about for the past two years, but written from the perspective of a consumerist advocate.

Yeah, right. So they're talking about how this new survey of 4,000 American consumers determined that millennials are just not spending as much money on random shit, basically. And then they said, the problem is not their size, as millennials represent a larger consumer group than the baby boomers, and it's not the block of money they control. Millennials spend about $600 billion a year. The problem, rather, is that millennials are saddled with very large and unavoidable expenses that reduce their spending power when it comes to discretionary purchasing. That gets marketers so excited. Expenses like what? They write.

Data from Deloitte and other sources point to at least two major factors that are impeding millennial spending power right now. Housing and student debt. What? I know. It's like, is there a more obvious statement? It's just. It's so weird to hear like a capitalist assessment of the fucking, the machinations of the terrible shit that happens in this stage of capitalism like they're the people who sell the shit right and then they're like huh we're it's

interesting we're noticing that this system that we're perpetuating has led to this consumer group not having enough money and now we're kind of rubbing our chins about it like right but to have any other take would require self-awareness about their sure their position in capitalism exactly exactly what it means to be hoisting expectations of expenditure onto your consumer would require self-awareness about their position in capitalism. In it, right. Exactly, exactly. And what it means to be foisting expectations of expenditure onto your consumers when your consumers are literally under the thumb of systemic debt, right? Right.

And it's like if you're trying to eat and survive, it's like all of those articles about how millennials are killing certain industries when, in fact, those industries don't exist to serve them. Yeah. And they should be changing their models. Yeah. Hey, if you didn't eat a sandwich all the time,

you'd have enough money for a house. Yes. That is like an argument that really, yeah. Yeah. And it also, that's an argument that really like boils my blood because it's like life is so difficult. If you need to have a sandwich out, do it. Like your $9 sandwich is not going to

even the playing field as far as like generational wealth goes do you know what i mean like the people who can buy houses in los angeles are from intergenerational wealth that like honestly they should be redistributing into the community and instead are investing in like assets which is neither here nor there but it's just like yeah yeah, yeah, it's, uh, God. And none of them ever take the time to say, well, why is, why is someone even forced to decide between a sandwich and healthcare? Why don't you zoom out a little bit on like the context of, yeah, it's like an examination of the symptoms that has no lens on the cause. Yeah. Right. It it's it's a really important point that uh you don't see covered a lot in the media is that millennials have like they spend a lot of money it's just they're

spending it on things that cost more to their generation housing and student debt like right student debt has gone like the the cost of college has gone way up compared to previous generations. And so is housing. Just erase that all that fucking debt now. Yeah. Yeah. I think like what is actually like necessary is an examination of like why college costs have risen so exorbitantly. Like at what point does it become almost predatory lending? Yeah. Right. Like giving student loans out to 18 year olds who maybe like do or do not have a cosigner, don't really know what's going on, making sure that they're like knowing the difference between federal and private loans. So it's like, at what point is that sort of like a predatory housing loan? Yeah. And I think that's also just I think fundamentally, we just

also don't when I think about the presidential race, I'm like, I'm more interested in candidates who question why things like health and education are profitable revenue streams for companies rather than like, these are not, these aren't things that need to generate revenue. Exactly. But I would argue that under capitalism, there is sort of the idea that anything and everything is available for purchase and available to monetize. And if that incentive exists, there's always going to be corporations and people who want it to exist. Like if we think about the pharmaceutical industry, specifically in America, we experience drug prices that no other country does because of things like, you know, patents. And there's just like no incentive to stop doing it because there's so much money inside of it.

Yeah. Well, I think that's why we're having this these like moments where we're having having to really examine the sort of systems we're living under. How long can this go before it completely flames everything out? Yeah, absolutely. And before it cannibalizes itself. Because that's what's happening now with all this kind of privatization of public works and things like that. Yeah, that drives me nuts. Especially stories about kids who will fill in potholes for free and the city will just send them a check. And it's just like, that is a broken state.

Yeah, right. Or there's like another one of like, kid uses his like fucking chore money to pay off the lunch. Or to pay off school lunch debt. And you're like, oh. Did you, I read one of those stories and the lunch debt was like $74.

And it's like your local government, I'll send $74. Right, yeah. Like your local government can't cover that? Like what is? Right. But instead, the way that that gets turned into a news story is if a private individual has to cover it for the people.

Yeah, but we also lift those stories up and celebrate them in a way that becomes toxic. We're like, oh, that's so sweet, instead of being like, that's actually super fucked up that they had to do that. Where are any of the governmental support systems? I don't blame us, though. I think we're going to find the glimmers of hope where we can. The people who built

the system should be... But I think at the same time, you can cover that and you can say, acknowledge that this person did something good, but also in that article, because most articles are like, oh, and I mean six--old steven really went out of his way to make things were fair rather than like he did that because he operates in a fucking hellscape exactly where we put all this shit on this six-year-old kid or however old this child is like what the fuck is how that article should end yeah well that would be like a more well-rounded and truthful

examination of the issue instead of just like the one like human interest beat. Right, because I think it's a little bit makes us feel good, but then it also distracts people that like we're actually racing against a clock of an issue that really needs to be addressed and not really taken seriously because we have moments that we just go, no.

Yeah, I think that it can placate people in a really dangerous way. Yeah, for sure. Well, if we ever get a media outlet,, I think that it can placate people in a really dangerous way. Yeah, for sure. Well, if we ever get a media outlet, we'll cover that side of it. Yeah, and everyone will just be like, what the fuck? Yeah, at the end it's like, boo.

But also, shout out to the child, but also fuck the system that put him or her or them in that situation. All right, we're going to take another break. We'll be right back. All right, we're going to take another break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist

who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were

turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed?

Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote.

What is it, like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports where we live at the intersection of sports and culture up first I explore the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel

Reese I know I'll go down in history people are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game every great player needs a foil I ain't really near them boys I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically Black. I love her.

What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil.

I ain't really hear them. Why is that? Just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious.

She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of

a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back and radio head is also back in the news well yeah i don't know what the fuck dude somebody just i'll just read this excerpt from pitchfork just so you know they put out about 16 hours of unreleased material from around the time they were recording OK Computer. And if you're a fan, you'd be like, wow, that's got to be great. And the backstory is kind of interesting.

He said, earlier today, Radiohead released over 16 hours of unheard demos, blah, blah, blah. Another miscellany recorded around the time they were working on OK Computer. According to a statement from guitarist Johnny Greenwood, the band never wanted to put these recordings out. But once they realized someone had stolen a cache of mini discs from Tom York's archive and was reportedly demanding $150,000 to not release them, they decided to upload everything onto Bandcamp themselves. You can stream it all for free for the next 18 days only or pay 18 pounds for downloads with the proceeds going to the environmental organization Extinction Rebellion. And then, like, Tom York had this part.

He's just like, yeah, the material's not V interesting. There's a lot of it. Just want to check it out. I mean, I was listening to some of this stuff. If you're a fan, I don't know how many of y'all are Radiohead fans in here, but it's interesting to see some songs go from not that great to what you heard on OK Computer. It's worse versions of the songs that I love.

It's like a behind the scenes. Yeah. And it's really interesting to see how like the vibe of OK Computer was like is totally missing from a lot of the songs. Like what was the one that we were listening to that sounded like kind of loungy and like jazzy and like. Oh, like my mom. Motion picture soundtrack.

Yeah. Motion picture soundtrack, which is like the most like stark and just dark song on that. I don't know. They're all pretty stark and dark, but yeah, it like has like a loungy, like wow.

Yeah. It's fun vibe. But in a way, you know, like if you're a creator, it's one of those things to see. It's like even people you hold up to be geniuses. Like,

yeah, it took, they had to walk through some shit to get to where they got yeah it provides like amazing transparency yeah you know what i mean and i think watching the homework yeah and i think that's kind of the value as i was listening to it because there are even moments where like tom's like like just demoing stuff on guitar by himself and you're like whoa i think this is him like in the process of writing like one of these songs and then you can kind of tell you're like okay and then it takes a collective takes the Johnny Greenwoods and everybody in the world to be like I got this idea let's flesh it out let's make it something better but yeah I think it does demystify I think it's good for

creative people especially because for me especially when I was like first getting into anything music or comedy I had a very like skewed perception of what it meant to be a creative like I thought people were just geniuses yeah and sat in a room and just went like blacked out and made shit and I had no appreciation for process or respecting my own process and I think things like this help you see like yeah yeah well I mean the whole thing is process right yeah it's 16 hours that it's 16 hours. That's, like, yeah. I mean, it can be painful to, especially when you're first starting, it can be painful to see the kind of work that you want to make

and the work that you are making. Yeah. Right? And not understanding, like, or even as you, I think, like, mid-level people experience specifically something where it's, like, okay, I know what my taste is and I know the things I like and I know what I want to make, but I don't have any of the tools to make it. And so I think like stuff like this helps us remember that like a lot of it is trial and error.

Yeah. And to be like more gentle with ourselves. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And take this thing out of the word failure or even what failure is. Yeah. Or celebrate failure. Right. It's like that's just another avenue that I don't have to bother going down. It's an iteration. Yeah. Whatever it is or it's more information really is what that is like failure. Oh, my God. I mean, we could start a down. It's an iteration. Yeah. Whatever it is. Or it's more information, really, is what that is. Like, failure, oh, my God.

I mean, we could start a podcast just talking about failure, embracing failure. Go read some of the early drafts of, like, some classic movies, like Star Wars or, like, Batman or Spider-Man. Like, some of the early attempts to back to the future was, like, stupid as fuck in some of the early drafts. More stupid than, hey, Chuck, it's your cousin Marvin. Marvin Barry.

Marvin Barry. That sound you're looking for? Whenever I feel really bad about myself, I read the Californication pilot script and everything feels better. Oh, is it a mess? Is it really bad? It's a fucking mess. In a really enjoyable way. Sure.

In a really enjoyable way. Wait, in a way that you're like, it's so bad, it's good? Yeah, it comes back in on itself. Wow. In a really enjoyable way. Sure, sure, sure. In a really enjoyable way. Wait, in a way that you're like, it's so bad, it's good? Yeah, it comes back in on itself. Wow. He has sex with that 16-year-old, and she punches him in the face. Yeah. You should all read it. It's good.

Does he have sex with a 16-year-old in the show? Yeah, but he doesn't know that she's 16. Oh, okay. Yeah. So it's okay. So it's fine. So it's chill. It's chill, dude.

That show, in my memory, I was just like oh wow that show was super fucked up uh but i haven't really thought about it in a long time that was another show on showtime didn't see it because they didn't have showtime except a couple episodes i watched it in like later like once it was on hulu or whatever oh gotcha yeah i only saw it like maybe three years ago oh okay guys let's talk about the most important story that we have covered in our time doing the Daily Zeitgeist. There is a new flavor of Mountain Dew. Sweet lightning.

Oh, sweet, sweet lightning. Ellery, it sounds like, I can already tell just by the look on your face that you're a Mountain Dew fan. Kind of. Okay, so first, we have to discuss, I think Baja Blast came out like 15 years ago. Yes. So it's been a while.

Really? That long ago? Yes. Yeah. And now we have something new. You know what's weird? But there are different iterations of Baja Blast. Yes.

Oh. Yeah. Wait a second. Oh. You're rope-a-doping us on your Mountain Dew knowledge? Excuse us, Mountain Dew knowledge. What the fuck? Okay, go on.

I don't, that's all I know. Oh. I know there's like a red one and like a teal one. Code red. And then like maybe a dark blue one, a medium blue. There's a yellowish one that they have a Taco Bell that I usually get. I just do the regular. Yeah.

You know, that's the one time I get. I don't know why I'm going to Taco Bell. I'm like, got to drink Mountain Dew because I'm trying to just fully destroy my insides. Ever since I went miniature golfing at a place with that blue water, I've always wanted to drink something that looked like that. So I go with that. Or Barbicide. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Toilet bowl color drink. Yeah, yeah. Do people still have those blue toilet water cakes in their shit? I felt like that was a very 90s, 80s thing. Oh, you have one too? Superjuice, Anahosian? Yeah, elderly. Our toilets actually have them

after the cleaners come sometimes. No, but that's them putting in, like there's like a cleaner versus like the thing you put in the tank. Every single time. That blue water comes out the whole time. And then I always remember being like, why is this necessary?

Because my pee was just turning green. Wait, sorry, real quick question. But that's how you can tell if you're drinking enough water. Yeah. Yes. Or just in regular, just be like, how dark is it? I'm going for clear. I'm like, what shade will I get?

Yeah, what shade of blue can you get? Is it forest green? So we're at the 15-year anniversary of Baja Blast and the 25-year anniversary of the OJ Simpson murders. Wow. Baja Blast. Honoring the lives of Nicole Brownsmith. All right, sorry. Fuck me.

Let's talk about sweet lightning. Hold on, man. Let me finish this up. So July 1st, they're billing it as, quote, the first exclusive beverage to be offered at KFC. Now here's the deal. Oh. Because it's Yum Brands, Yum Breezy's.

This is meaning that they are going to basically, this is something that they've designed to work with the Qigong at KFC. Okay. So, as they go on, the whole goal with Sweet Lightning was to, quote, create the perfect pairing for KFC's original recipe fried chicken. The result is a golden-hued soda with a punch of peach and a touch of honey flavors, ostensibly a crisp and sweet counterpoint to deep-fried batter. Now, see, that is some rookie shit because if you're trying to match KFC, you don't tell people what's in your ingredients. You don't tell them, like, what the flavor profile is, right? Because isn't KFC all about secrecy? I mean, it's MSG, right?

Right. Yeah, yeah. They don't mention it. Yeah. Look, I love Mountain Dew. Yeah, me too. I mean, not as much as you. But in the context of a Yum! Brands restaurant,

shout out to Sweet Lightning and making us all have our teeth rot. Yeah, I think it's against God. What, Mountain Dew in general? Yeah, absolutely. Oh, wow. Go on, I like this. What do you drink when you go to South Carolina?

I try to do water. What? Oh, yeah, you're drinking water. I try to do water. I drink a lot of coffee and not so much water. But I used to work at a bakery when I was in high school. And how we cleaned the ovens is we would pour Mountain Dew on them and turn them on. And it was so acidic that it would chemically clean the bottom of the oven.

Get everything up out of it. Wait, so in the oven, at the base of it, you just put a little pool of Mountain Dew? We would put a little pool of Mountain Dew. And run the oven. Yeah, and we would run self-clean on the oven. So it would bubble up. Yeah. And it would... It was brand new? Yeah, it would wipe out all of the Dew. And run the oven. Yeah, and we would run self-clean on the oven. So it would like bubble up. Yeah. And it would...

It was like brand new? Yeah, it would like wipe out all of the crust. I love it. Can you do that on a flat top grill too? I mean, that's what... Probably, yeah.

That's what it's doing to the inside of your stomach also. Great. Because my poops look like it's cleaning it out. So thank you, Mountain Dew. Just blowing it all out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Bunch of weird... Yeah, oh God. Very smooth on the insides. Very smooth, off. Bunch of weirds. Yeah. Very smooth on the insides. Very smooth. Yeah. Brand new on the inside, doctors would say, if I got a colonoscopy. Ellery, it has been a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Oh, thank you so much. I had a lot of fun.

Where can people find you? You can find me at Ellery Smith on Twitter. And I run a monthly comedy show called Funalingus. We have one Saturday in Los Angeles. I'm seeing a theme. Yeah. With your t-shirt. Vegetarian.

Oh, yeah. I was trying to get it for the show. I think we might do like a show auction. Oh, there you go. So I'm trying to find like fun vagina themed stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying?

Actually, yeah. Wait. It's Michael Cohen tweeting out his prison address in case anybody wants to send him bail. I didn't see that it was actually Michael Cohen. Oh my God. He tweeted out where you can find him in prison if you want to send him.

For future correspondence. If you want to send him a letter. Yo, should we fuck and start trying to get B-Pen out? Should we catfish Michael Cohen? That's so fucking funny. He's happily married. I know, isn't that so fucking funny? We'll find out soon enough, Ellery.

And he's also in upstate New York. Yeah, is he? Isn't that what it says? Oh, yeah, he is. Yeah. He's just right down the street from you. He's in the same prison as the situation. Dan and War.

Oh, God. Yeah, he is. Yeah. It's the, I mean, maybe they're cellies. Maybe they're cellies. Oh, man, look, I'll test the bonds of Michael Cohen's marriage. Yeah. With a new character I create.

There was something about that that made me laugh so hard. Just him being like, sure, I'm going to jail, but if you want to write me, like here's my address. Right. Oh, I'll use that filter on Snapchat. For all future correspondents. For all future correspondents. Damn. He's probably getting, I'm sure there are a lot of people who are sending him plenty of shit

absolutely also this man doesn't need any money for his commissary either don't put money in his commissary please he has money

Miles I'm just thinking purely like when you're looking out for a gel sticky buns yeah like he doesn't need it he has I'm sure he has

all kinds of money hidden somewhere and he has a family if anything help the situation he's got some offshore accounts yeah 100%

find me Twitter yes Twitter Instagram at miles of gray a couple tweets I like first one's from Nick Vatterot help the situation. He's got some offshore accounts. Yeah, 100%. Find me. Twitter. Yeah, you. Yes, Twitter. Instagram, at Miles of Gray. A couple tweets I like. First one's from Nick Vatterot,

at Nick Vatterot. Don't get plastic surgery. Get paper surgery. It's better for the environment. Another one, Dana Donnelly. I'm dating someone who asked me

when my 17-year-old sister turns 18 every single time we hang out. I deserve better. This guy clearly has a hard time remembering birthdays and I don't want to be disappointed on mine. Shout out to Dana.

She helps me produce my podcast. Very funny girl. Yeah, I'm loving the tweets. She's great. Her sister is a 17-year-old ASMR model who dropped out of high school to do it. Oh, wow. And successful? I don't know. Did you say a what model? ASMR. Maybe it's not a model.

Oh, ASMR. Oh, got you, got you, got you. I just heard MR. I was like, what's an MR? Artist, I think. Artist, right. I don't know did you say a what model ASMR maybe it's not a model performer oh got you I just heard MR I was like what's an MR artist I think artist right oh is that

is she doing like just like finger yeah yeah she eats glue no shut up no really she eats glue yeah yeah

I'm like plugging Dana's sister right now yo wait hold on she might have removed the video but I'm almost there was one

it was her most popular one because it looked like cum oh gotcha it looked like cum. Oh, gotcha. It's like here's me downing a bunch of Elmer's school glue. Oh, and it's non-toxic, so – right? Yeah. Yeah, because that's what kids' kiddie paste.

Exactly. So it's hitting – it's scratching a few itches because maybe if you grew up having the mad crush on like the kid who ate the glue, you're like – It's scratching a few itches for sure. You can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien a couple tweets i've been enjoying sean clements tweeted still so hard to believe that behind closed doors some of these hollywood guys secretly behave the same way they do at parties and in interviews and everywhere else and theresa lee tweeted has anyone checked on the guy who wrote cross my heart hope to die stick a needle in my eye?

I mean, are they okay? What happened to that guy? And Cam Tyesson tweeted a screen cap of the all-time list of most highly paid athletes. Number three, Tiger Woods at $1.7 billion. Number two, Michael Jordan at $1.7 billion. Number two, Michael Jordan at $1.85 billion. Number one, Galleus Apolleus

Diocles at $15 billion adjusted for inflation. And Cam Tyson tweeted, eat shit, Michael Jackson. Broke bitch. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

We have a Facebook fan page and a website DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we're writing. This is from a group called Extremely Bad Man.

It's called Up With The Birdies. And they're like a trio, I think, from L.A. And I just like it because it's got that 90s trip hop vibe to it. And it sounds like it could have been from them. But they do a bunch of stuff. I thought it was Jamiroquai earlier. Jamiroquai? They're in their own lane.

Okay. Yeah, my bad, my bad. Yes. Respect to the space cowboy. Yes, yes. Of course. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

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