The Daily Zeitgeist - Chillionaires, Faceb(sh)ook 10.2.19

Episode Date: October 2, 2019

In episode 486, Jack and Miles are joined by Behind The Bastards / It Could Happen Here / Worst Year Ever host and writer Robert Evans to discuss Mayor Pete's favorite things, Mark Zuckerberg's though...ts on Elizabeth Warren, Mike Pompeo rejecting the Democrats demands for state department officials to testify, Trump threatening more violence, Trump's approval ratings, the Ukrainian orphan being found, Dunkin Donuts Halloween costumes, thoughts on the new Joker film, and more! FOOTNOTES;1. What Pete Buttigieg Watches: Favorite Superhero, 'Game of Thrones' Character and Fictional President2. ALL HANDS ON DECK3. Pompeo rejects Dem demands for officials' testimony4. Pompeo’s inner circle heavy on business, military experience5. Examining Trump’s Claims About Democrats and Ukraine6. DONALD TRUMP'S APPROVAL RATING IS SIX POINTS LOWER THAN SUPPORT FOR HIS IMPEACHMENT: POLL7. The Ukrainian Orphan Who Is Actually Maybe an Adult Has Been Found in Indiana8. Dunkin' set to go trick or treating on Halloween9. Dunkin' Dropping 'Donuts' from Its Name10. Dunkin’ Debuts its First Ever Halloween Costume at New York Fashion Week, Available Exclusively to their Instagram Fans in October11. Aurora Shooting Victims Voice Fears Over 'Joker' in Letter to Warner Bros.12. Warner Bros. Stands By ‘Joker’ Release, Says the Film Doesn’t Endorse Real-World Violence13. John Hinckley, Jr. Trial (1982)14. WATCH: Technova La Em Copacabana (TOWA TEI) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:03 Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 102, Episode 3 of DIRT DAILY SIGHTS, GUYS! Production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially, off the top, fuck Coke Industries and fuck Fox News. It's Wednesday, October 2nd, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brienrien aka i was like oh shit my ass is bodacious shorter with some nips and skin that's all pasty looking for something to do with my
Starting point is 00:02:34 hands took a few weeds with one of my friends i'm leaving please believe in trying to stand up my legs lost all feeling gotta stop stop taking whatever Miles has. What the hell do people do with their hands? That is courtesy of at Pod Moran. Or Moran. Moran. Moran. Fancy Moran.
Starting point is 00:02:57 And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. All I do is win, win, win, no matter what. But I got ED, so I cannot get it up. And every single weekday, this cigarette podcast goes up. And it stays there. That game say yeah. And it stay a taco, taco, taco. Bell, because all I do is win.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Win, win. That's right. Jacob Baloo. Thank you at Jacob Baloo for that one because that's true. All we do is win. No matter what. Doesn't matter. Exactly. And we say yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:39 And they stay there. We do also do that. Yep. Well, we're supposed to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented host of Behind the Bastards and the new podcast on this very network, Worst Year Ever, as well as it could happen here. He is Mr. Robert Evans. Somebody say Civil War? Yep.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Yes. Hi. Actually, a lot of people. Yeah, a lot of people saying Civil War. What timing. It's a fun meme. It's a fun meme people. Yeah, a lot of people saying Civil War. What timing. It's a fun meme. It's a fun meme. Yeah, the president's talking all about Civil War, and then Robert's like, hey, I'm here.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Yep. What's up, buddy? I'd like to hear it. Here it goes. How have you been? Pretty good. Preparing for the Civil War. Yep.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Getting your LASIK eye surgery? Getting my LASIK eye surgery. Getting just stockpiling, you know? A little bit of stockpiling here, a little bit of stockpiling there. A little bit of bagels. A little bit of bagels. A little bit of like taking groups of friends out to the gun range like ostensibly as just a way to hang out, but really so that people will have my back. Yeah. Oh, I thought you're just – you're actually adjudicating them whether or not they're worthy to be in your posse.
Starting point is 00:04:42 You're like, ooh, I don't know about that grouping. I mean, there's like the two categories, which is like actual team and then cannon fodder. So you need both, you know? You want someone in the decoy house. Well, you saw me. I did a dime grouping from 200 yards, so hopefully that's enough to be in the A team. I was always on JV as a kid.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Wow. Yeah. Don't stop playing basketball. Do you make up your, like, the people you're hanging out with based on, like, which group? Like, you always need to have a couple of people from group A? Yeah, you always want a couple of group A's with you, a couple of group B's that, again, you can send out to the decoy house. Decoy house um decoy so i'm assuming that in the office currently uh super producer anahos and miles are uh group a they can kill people uh and then with my farts i i would be probably
Starting point is 00:05:38 cannon fodder actually the only person group a here is and. Oh, okay. The death. Anderson is a killer. Yeah, including me. Yeah. It's all decoys, and then Anderson is on the kill team. That's the one who has the information embedded. Yeah. All right, Robert. Fine.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. There's still a Democratic primary going on. Oh, right, right oh right right right mayor pete budaj is still in the race so we're gonna check in with him as he tries to prove that he is normal human being man v chill chill centrist totally like like you just a dude who likes to chill out and be be the center. Watch some TV. Be the center. We're also going to see who Elizabeth Warren is scaring right now,
Starting point is 00:06:31 which extremely rich people she's scaring. We are going to check in with our ongoing segment, Blow the Whistle. Blow the Whistle. Specifically, we are going to uh look at pompeo refusing to uh let the state department officials testify trump's threats of violence where trump's approval rating is compared to overall support for impeachment this is all because of russia so we're gonna check in with that yeah we're also gonna look at the ukrainian
Starting point is 00:07:05 child slash adult adoption story has an update we're gonna check in with that we're gonna look at the scariest halloween costume uh and which fast food restaurant is putting it out i guess it would be unintentionally scariest and then we're gonna look at the Joker movie which is coming out I guess this weekend and all the hubba-loo about hubba-loo hubba-loo because everybody knows that that one guy did the shooting at the last Batman movie not the last Batman movie no no that was a cute few Batman's ago last good and a lot of Marvels ago right yeah many marvels ago most of the marvels right yeah yeah yeah but because that guy said i'm i'm the joker uh you know everybody knows that they need to be scared about this movie coming out
Starting point is 00:07:58 except that dude never said that so we're gonna look into that but first robert we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I mean, I have been looking up night vision scopes for one of my rivals. Jesus. So I guess that's revealing. I've also been looking up, just constantly checking every day on Eric Prince's various planes. He has a bunch of different ones registered with the FAA, and I check in on a couple of
Starting point is 00:08:22 them every day, just seeing how it's going. What about the ones that probably aren't well that's a great question yeah the good news is there's a lot of just random people with cameras who take pictures of planes taking off and landing at every airport in the world so you do have a pretty good idea of of where some of his shit is at wait there are people just as hobbyists are just like we like to just take a photo of every plane that's how you remember on the episode of behind the Bastards we did, we talked about that crop duster he armored and set up to fight. That's how it got
Starting point is 00:08:50 caught because it was, someone just took a picture of this weird plane taking off at the airport at Malta and then a bunch of like researchers were like, oh that's a bunch of illegal military modifications on this crop duster. And it was just some guy who's just like, I like planes. Right. Shout out to all the plane files out there.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Yeah. It's cool. That's interesting. And then you can track where they're taking off, where they're landing. Yeah. There's a bunch of different sites for it. Some of them are like, I think plane tracker is the name of one of them. I forget off the top of my head what it's called.
Starting point is 00:09:19 But there's like some big ones that you can get normal subscriptions to. But like if a rich person is like, I want you to remove my registration from your, from your history, they'll do it like on request. And then there's this one ADSB database, which is like just a bunch of nerds collecting information on all of the world's planes and where they're going. And they don't remove shit.
Starting point is 00:09:37 So you can just like keep track of the comings and goings of the people who secretly run the world. Yeah. Any rich person. Yeah. Michael Jordan. Check out their shit. Yeah. Drake. Any rich person. Yeah. Bezos. Michael Jordan. Check out their shit.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift. Yes. She's got a vanity registration on her plane. I used to know it off the top of my head. It's got TS in it, obviously, and then the number of Grammys or whatever she's won. Oh. So cool.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Light flex. You're saying Michael Jordan's is like 236? Michael Jordan's is 236 MJ, I think. Oh, okay. In 236 MJ. Yeah, okay. Because he was number 23, has six rings. It's not fuck them kids?
Starting point is 00:10:15 That's right. He's not. He's a big asshole. Oh, I thought you were saying he'd fucked kids. No, no. His attitude towards being charitable towards kids, he was just like, That is where I knew, where I was most familiar with tail numbers and the tracking of flight logs from was Jeffrey Epstein.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Epstein. I like the Epstein story. Yeah. And also A Few Good Men, which was only implicitly about a child sex ring. Let's talk about overrated. What's something you think is overrated? Horses.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Get with the fucking car. You're saying horses as a mode of transportation? Just period. Wow. Okay. Don't need them. Not useful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:56 This has been a thing for you. You have an anti-horse agenda. I do. I do. I really dislike horses. Who is overrating horses? I think the world. I know Lisa Frank, the covers of those notebooks that a lot of people had when I was in middle
Starting point is 00:11:14 school, that overrated horses and unicorns significantly. Have you seen what Lisa Frank looks like? No. She is a trip. And she is notoriously very isolated. You are visibly excited to show me this. Oh, my God. That's what Lisa- Oh, my God. Yeah. she is a trip and she is like notoriously very isolated you are visibly excited to show me this oh my god oh my god
Starting point is 00:11:28 she looks like someone who makes like psychedelic folders she looks like someone who has not come down from acid in the last 24 years she looks like the perfect blend of horse girl and acid person on acid yeah so I mean horses are beautiful creatures.
Starting point is 00:11:47 You would disagree with that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. You think they're ugly? I think they're unnecessary, Jack. We have dogs. Unnecessary.
Starting point is 00:11:54 And we have cows. A horse, it's like, you know, we have Jeeps and we have trucks. A sport utility vehicle is unnecessary. Oh, so you're saying we've, as a society, as a species, have moved past riding on animals because technology has replaced them? Well, not all animals. I think some animals, like if you can ride a tiger, you should.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Wow, okay. Yeah, I support that. There's a whole mythology around this take that I need to understand. Yeah, I have a lot of complicated feelings on this. Have you ridden a tiger? Have you seen a riding tiger before? Not yet. Yeah. Not yet, but I do believe that it's possible. Right, right. You'll know it when you see it.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Mm-hmm. Are there any instances where horses can do what machines can't, like riding over a mountainous terrain? I feel like you could just- Do an off-wheel? Get a barrel and roll down the mountainous terrain in a barrel. Yeah. Better than a horse.
Starting point is 00:12:47 What if horses were cheaper? That doesn't seem true, by the way, but we'll move on from that. It's not about the expense. It's not about the expense? It's not about the expense. I'm more put off on like, it's just become more of a class signifier. I feel like you're really into horses, like at a certain level. Obviously, there are people who are like horse rankings and things like that, but people
Starting point is 00:13:03 are like, I love my horse. I'm like i'm like i think that's part of it i think uh i think horses are pulling one over on us wow i think they are running a long con and it's time people woke up okay good are jodhpurs is that that's a riding boot i do support jodhpurs but not when being used with a horse okay got, got it. Yeah. This is all good information to have. Well, those are the ones blown out, the pants blown out the side, right? Yeah, very British. Oh, I think they're boots.
Starting point is 00:13:37 No, they're pants, because I remember someone said my pants looked like them because I stretched the knee part too much out, and they were, like, blooming out the sides. I'm like, what do you got, Jodhpurs on? And I threw those pants away because I became very self-conscious what is something you think is underrated stalking okay well okay like okay I think it's a I think it's a skill that can be used for good or for evil if you're just stalking like another random person particularly because it's someone that you're into that's bad but if you're stalking the right people, that's really good.
Starting point is 00:14:07 What do you mean? Like Jeffrey Epstein. People needed to be stalking Jeffrey Epstein. If more people had been stalking Epstein for longer, might have saved some kids some trauma. So maybe a slight, would you say vigilance? I would just say- Vigilante stalking. Stalk responsibly.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Ah, okay. Responsible, stalking for good. Stalking for good, yeah. Responsible. Stocking for good. Stocking for good. Or keeping track of the baddies. Yeah, that's my new 501c, SFG, stocking for good. Stocking for good. Yeah, yeah. It's a C3 or C4?
Starting point is 00:14:33 C3, C3. Oh, okay. Yeah. So, yeah. Do you know who are your donors? Oddly enough, Eric Prince. Oh, great. Lots of money from Echo Pop, really significant investments.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Who do you think is understocked? I think Jeff Bezos could stand to be stocked more. Yeah. I think for his own safety, people should be stocking Kanye more. I worry about him. Wow. You're worried about him? I'm always worried about Kanye. In what sense? I think he is somebody who could really use some help from somebody who doesn't want any money from him.
Starting point is 00:15:07 And he wasn't a fan of his music, but just cares about him being a happy person. Yeah. Well, I mean, his whole new shit is definitely taking on a cult vibe. Because it's becoming church with him being the central figure at these church services. That seems like a bad evolution for him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:23 That seems like it might end with him buying a compound in the jungle and telling people to move there. And I worry about that. Well, I mean, he was developing his own form of housing structures and things like that, that the city was like, you got to knock this shit off because none of this is permanent. No, Kanye, no. Yeah. Wait, he was trying to design his own form of housing?
Starting point is 00:15:42 Yeah, because he felt like it could be affordable and spread over like that people could live in like yeezy pods right there were pods yeah i remember like dome structures uh-huh yeah see this all concerns me all of the pieces of a dangerous culture there and nobody screwed him together thankfully because i i think he's i don't think he has bad intentions as a person no he just has an ego he just has an ego. But I'm very worried that all of these different disparate things could eventually become kind of like a rat tail wrapped up in his ego. And then we could have a really dangerous cult. Big rat king of a cult.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I want some good-natured people in a friendly and emotionally supportive way to be stalking Kanye. Well, those are his fans. Yeah. Basically. Well, no, but not his fans. See, that's the problem. Okay, not easy stance. Yeah. I think it's people who don't give, those are his fans. Yeah, basically. Well, no, but not his fans. See, that's the problem. Well, not the, okay, not Yeezy stans.
Starting point is 00:16:26 His fans are never gonna, yeah. I think it's people who don't give a shit about his music. Yeah. Who aren't like, ah, just, I'm gonna kidnap you and make your first album over again. Yeah, like me, I don't care for his music, but I want him to be okay as a person. Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:39 So I'm trying to like, sort of responsibly stalk Kanye West. Yeah, yeah. I don't like his music, but I think he's the Buckminster Fuller of our time and just needs to get back to work on those Kanye pods. What is a myth? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Okay, so this kind of ties into the stuff with the Joker. It's a myth that Heath Ledger was like all, like went way too into that character, that he like was like stayed in character the entirety of the filming of the dark
Starting point is 00:17:08 night and that like he lost no internalized none of that's true like where is that born out of I think cracked I think it was in
Starting point is 00:17:19 general like after he died especially and like after everybody saw how good the performance was they just like these myths started that he had like gotten way too into the character. Well, Jack Nicholson came out and was like, I warned him.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Yeah. I warned him that the Joker would take him down. So I wonder if that fed this thing that because Jack Nicholson said he warned him that in fact the curse of the Joker is true or some shit. And there's like there's pictures of him just like posing when he's like he's like in makeup and stuff but like smiling with other members of the cast and like looking like a normal person there's pictures of him out of makeup like eating dinner with everybody during the filming like one of the i forget which one of his co-stars said that like no in between shots we would like talk about uh his like kids and stuff right not not ledgers i think but like the the actors and like i did from the people who were actually on set with him, like there was no hint that like he had gotten.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Like the actual story seems to be like definitely in the wake of his death, it was framed as like, oh, he got way too into this character and broke him. And that's why he wound up ODing. And the reality seems to be, no, he just had a drug problem and he overdosed. And it's a tragedy. But like it had nothing to do with him playing the Joker and it taking over his mind. Right. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:18:26 so I think the stuff we wrote about on cracked was that he like for research in the role, he like hold up in a hotel room for part of the time and like did like a bunch of like got into the character and was like scribbling weird shit. Oh yeah. I was definitely getting into character my entire time in college. Yeah. I just don't think like,
Starting point is 00:18:47 he wasn't like, he seems like everyone who ever worked with him said he was like a great guy to work with. And a great guy to work with wouldn't be like staying in the character of a murderous clown. All right, dude, where should we eat?
Starting point is 00:18:58 He's like, I don't know. You're like, oh dude, please. And if you break another pool cue, burns the craft services table down. Why are you still in that nurse's outfit?
Starting point is 00:19:11 Well, all right. I was actually curious. You were one of the rare people who actually put answers next to the categories on the page. And your myth was cars. It seems so broad. Yeah, I decided I didn't want to get into that here but okay you have a conspiracy theory about cars don't exist yep right interesting yep and only horses do you never seen a car and a horse in the same place at the same time man i
Starting point is 00:19:35 don't know what the fuck you're talking about let's uh let's do the opposite of that conversation and talk about Mayor Pete, the most normal. The horse of men. Yes, of horse and men. Pete Buttigieg is just normcore. He is the most centrist of central people. Yeah. Yeah. He, you know.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Tiny little man. He did a really cool Hollywood reporter He, you know. Tiny little man. He did a really cool Hollywood reporter interview, you know? Yeah. Not sure what. It was basically, I like all of the things that are most popular. Yes. Yeah. No, right.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Which is like fine. Like, yeah, it's fine. Exactly. Like he says he, you know, liked Star Trek, D&G. Yeah. Fucked with Jean-Luc Picard. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:24 See, nobody ever asked the right follow-up question with that. Yeah. Ited with Jean-Luc Picard. Okay. See, nobody ever asked the right follow-up question with that. Yeah, it was just like, oh, cool, okay. I think they interviewed. What's your favorite episode? What does he do in that episode? No, no. He's like really trying to catch him. Oh, you're a fan of TNG.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Well, that presupposed that the only utopian society would be a post-capitalist one. How do you feel about that, Pete? And what's your take on Guinan? Right. Guinan? Oh, I And what's your take on Guinan? Oh, I've got hella takes on Guinan. But we're going to have to save that for the Guinan cast. Behind the Bastards, Guinan. And then also, they asked him, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:55 what kind of TV do you binge watch? He's like, well, I like to channel surf before going to bed. And they're like, I'll catch a little family guy, or Rick and Morty. Okay, interesting. Cool. You like the tunage, like the youngies? Well, actually, no, family guy or Rick and Morty. Okay, interesting. Cool. You like the tunage, like the youngies? Well, actually, no, family guy. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:21:09 What was that one? Yes, and a famous show to, like, come in in the middle of an episode and watch three minutes of Rick and Morty. Yeah, right? You're like, oh, I get it. What happened? Then they said, Game of Thrones, man. Hit us with it. What do you like about Game of Thrones?
Starting point is 00:21:21 Who are you loving? He goes, well, I think Tyrion was a really good political strategist although it's a bold take yeah didn't work out and then again even better one and you know daenerys was really rooting for khaleesi for a while but then at the end there she kind of blew it huh oh interesting i was i was surprised he was gonna be like full-throated like i love daenerys right that's it for me i think that's coming yeah exactly carpet vomit baby right just fucking raise that motherfucker um and then they Daenerys. Right. That's it for me. I think that's it. He had it coming. Yeah, exactly. Carpet vomit, baby. Right. Just fucking raise that motherfucker. And then they asked
Starting point is 00:21:50 him, who's your favorite superhero? And this is the answer I love. He goes, the one I identify with most is Spider-Man because he's a relatively regular guy. Kind of nerdy guy who finds himself in a position of power and it complicates his day-to-day life. But he's trying to figure out how to do good with it.
Starting point is 00:22:05 But who would I want to be? Obviously, Batman is a billionaire and he's got all the great gear. So that's appealing. Then again, he doesn't really strike me as happy. So yeah,
Starting point is 00:22:13 I'm going to stick with Spider-Man. Uh-huh. So it was, he'd rather be the billionaire if the guy was happy. Right. But then he'll just stick with the nerdy dude
Starting point is 00:22:22 who's like, he's like, you get it, dude. I'm struggling with this responsibility, man. Come on, work with me. This gives me a great idea for next year, Miles. So one of my favorite things to do is to buy a very large cigar and stick it in my mouth and shout about Spider-Man,
Starting point is 00:22:34 pretend that I'm J. Jonah Jameson. What if we get you a Spider-Man costume and we spend the 2020 election stalking Mayor Pete and having you try to take pictures of him while I scream. Just in the background? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Give me that goddamn Spider-Man picture. I mean, I would love- It's going to be especially weird once he drops out of the race. Yeah. Well, you know, he's in fourth place. But yeah, you know, I would love to be on the Secret Service radar. Yeah. For sure.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I just, I feel like if he really wants the Spider-Man experience, having a whole news, a whole tabloid newsletter dedicated to his exploits. Right. That's what you wish for, Miles. The people who work with me have a history of getting on the Secret Service radar. That's very true. But I'm not writing books about fighting presidents. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I do like that he's like, well, obviously I would like to be a billionaire like everyone because having an immoral amount of wealth is the ultimate goal here in these United States. I don't know. He just, he's so just clearly defined and like perfect. Yeah. As like a perfect realization of who he is. Yeah. Well, you know, look, it's great. It's like no hot takes there. Yeah. Well, you know, look, it's, it's great. It's like no, no hot takes there.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Right. I feel like he goes to a focus group. Like other people go to a therapist and like checks in and is like, what do I like this week? Right. Well, what should I be doing more of to relate with the normal person? If you'd caught him six months earlier,
Starting point is 00:24:02 he would have said big bang theory. Right. He's like, oh, Black Miller Black Mirror Mirror Mirror Miller? Black Miller Banderscotch. Big fan. Big fan. Love it.
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Starting point is 00:25:26 Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion,
Starting point is 00:26:34 and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore The Making of a Rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them voice.
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Starting point is 00:28:39 And Elizabeth Warren, once again, in some hot water with very wealthy people. I mean, look, you can't buy PR like that. I'm also going to say, hey, Elizabeth Warren, you want these billionaires on your side, lady. I know. We're going to be president. What the heck is going on here? You can't be pissing off all the riches. You got to dog whistle and say, you know, I love Batman.
Starting point is 00:29:07 I want to be rich billionaire uh or i'll take i'll take bigger money in the in the general right at the primaries yeah so narc sucker nerd uh is the latest extremely wealthy person who's not thrilled about the prospect of an elizabeth warren. Yeah. And I don't know. It kind of worries me since we're still in a soft oligarchy. It does raise questions about like how they're going to fuck with her campaign. Yeah. And if she wins presidency and, you know. I'll tell you, I don't really worry about that too much.
Starting point is 00:29:41 And it's not because Facebook doesn't have an influence on the election. It's because I don't have any faith that Facebook would actually know how to effectively fuck with an election if they were trying to. Yeah. The only way they've been able to fuck with an election is by like ignoring shit on their platform. Sheer incompetence. Yeah. But yeah, that was enough. That was enough. It's funny how like, you know, everyone I think has maybe written Bernie off because he's just as easily bad news for these people. Last week, we were talking about the CNBC thing where all these wealthy guys are like, hey, if it's Warren, we're going all in on Trump
Starting point is 00:30:13 or we're sitting this one out. Now you have, I'm forgetting his real name because I just want to say Sucker Nerd. Anyway, Sucker Nerd out here saying sort of a similar thing. But then meanwhile, Bernie just raised like $25 million this last quarter. Yeah, Bernie's still out here. He's out here too. I mean, they, like, I don't think they can even-
Starting point is 00:30:28 Fathom what that one is. Fathom a possibility of, it's like, social what? They're like, hey, Hollywood Reporter, make Mayor Pete look really chill to people. Right. He likes Rick and Morty. Tell him to say he likes Rick and Morty. Hey, Yang Gang, he likes Rick and Morty too, so maybe y'all can funnel this way. But yeah, The Verge got a hold of some audio from this meeting he was having, like Q&A sessions with people, with his employees from July, where people were asking all kinds of questions like, you know, like, what about these critics?
Starting point is 00:31:04 Like, what about the FCC fines? You know, with Senator Warren, like, moving up in the world, how do we do this? So his first answer was, you know, pretty telling. This was in direct response to the question, which was sort of, with the rise of politicians like Senator Warren, I was wondering how personally worried you are about regulators coming in and breaking up Facebook. And this was his answer. Like Elizabeth Warren, who thinks that the right answer is to break up the companies. You know, if she gets elected president, then I would bet that we will have a legal challenge and I would bet that we will win the legal challenge. So
Starting point is 00:31:38 does that still suck for us? Yeah. I don't have to you know have a major lawsuit against our own government i mean that's not like the position that you want to be in when you're you know i mean it's like we we care about our country and i want to work with our government to do good things and um but but look at the end of the day if someone's going to try to threaten something that existential you go to the mat and you fight. Go to the mat, Mark! So he said, look, this is my patch and if you want to step, then we can tussle. He was just thinking
Starting point is 00:32:12 about all the goats he used to slaughter when he said that. Smoking meats? Yeah, just smoking meats, basically. Yeah. Love to smoke meats. I mean, that whole idea, too. I mean, he was saying, yeah, that would suck, but you know, that's, we've got, I care about my whole idea, too. I mean, he was saying, yeah, that would suck. But, you know, that's – we've got – I care about my country.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Shareholders. And, you know, we want to work with the country and make things better, just not in other countries where our platform is being used to, like, perpetuate genocide and things like that. But anyway, sure, go on. Go off. Go off, King. king uh and i think he also said that it would make election interference more likely uh because they wouldn't be able to coordinate uh you know the protections well right they've done such a great job oh i mean they nailed it yeah well this is the answer that was part of the answer you gave when sort of addressing the idea of like breaking up these near monopolies yeah uh like what the what are we gonna do we're one of those we're one of those. We're one of Google, Amazon, Facebook that everyone's sort of looking at, like, what's going on here? And then he gave a
Starting point is 00:33:09 really chill answer that shows he really understands the danger of this just centralized power. It's just that breaking up these companies, whether it's Facebook or Google or Amazon, is not actually going to solve the issue. And, you know, it doesn't make election interference less likely. It makes it more likely because now the companies can't coordinate and work together. Uh-huh. Which they did such a good job. They've been nailing that so far.
Starting point is 00:33:33 So good at it. Yeah. And, you know, like suspending people's accounts who are really the real offenders on that website. Trump campaign spent a million dollars this week on ads to counter the impeachment. Right. Yeah. And so... Nailing it. Trump campaign spent a million dollars this week on ads to counter the impeachment allegations. Yeah. Nailing it.
Starting point is 00:33:51 You know, at the end of the idea that that's not going to solve the issues. The issues, like you're missing the point. It's just that it's complete, you know, that near monopoly on shit that is completely anti-competitive and, you know, squeezes people out. Look what Facebook did to digital media already just because it was so fucking centralized. And their ad sales, you know, essentially changed the way people were making content to consume. And they also were lying about how many views they got. Yeah, I knew that. Making video on Facebook, you'd be like, yo, always lead with the Facebook numbers when you're telling a client how well it did. Because you get a play if motherfuckers are scrolling through the home screen.
Starting point is 00:34:26 That's a view. Just checked your timeline and the video was like two weeks ago. That counts as a play. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. All right. Let's check in with the whistleblower story. I mean, wow.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Every day is a gift. Mikey P. Pompeo is refusing to let the State Department officials testify. Yeah. He kind of went all in. He was angry, it seemed like. Well, there's, you know, A, our man, the Secretary of State, forgot he was listening in on that fucking call. Hey, we all, I remember just the other week, Jack was on the phone with Vladimir Putin coordinating this week's coverage, like always. And I was in the background, but I just completely forgot it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Yeah, it happens. You were just listening in. It does. And you were in share. I was like, honestly, I thought that was a podcast. I didn't know what that was. I wasn't even on the phone. It was just in the vents, like I usually am.
Starting point is 00:35:25 It was scripted. Yeah, it just what that was. I wasn't even on the phone. It was just in the vents like I usually am. It was scripted. Yeah, it just – Yeah, this whole thing, right? So they're asking for answers from five department officials. What's his face? The dude who's testifying tomorrow on Thursday, he resigned. So Mike Pompeo can't tell him shit. So he's free to do whatever he wants. But the other five, I think they are really you know, he's really concerned about them going up to speak to these investigators in the House because he says he says that what they're asking for raised, quote, significant legal and procedural concerns and question the committee's authority to compel an appearance by officials for a deposition.
Starting point is 00:36:01 by officials for a deposition. So, you know, the people, some of the people that he's summoning are there that are being, you know, that they want to be deposed. Is this guy Ulrich Breckbull, who is the State Department counselor. And this is one of Pompeo's homeboys from back in the day.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Like they went to West Point. They're in the same graduating class at West Point. Fucking Ben Harvard Business School. Then they worked on a Koch Brothers funded defense company in Kansas. They're fucking down tight. And so he's like, you know, his inner circle very much became at the State Department, like his true inner circle of people he trusted. So there's you know, there's got to be some messy shit going on there that these people, you know, they probably have different goals in mind than, you know, protecting the country. That these people, you know, they probably have different goals in mind than, you know, protecting the country.
Starting point is 00:36:51 But, you know, a lot of people with expected this response from Pompeo because why? Of course. Like, why would this happen? And when they even asked Corin Lewandowski to testify, they got the same thing. And some insiders or people who have been speaking anonymously who work on the Hill have been saying, oh, we're doing that. Basically, like we knew like we suspected that was going to happen. That way we can add another article of impeachment. Right. So then you can say, oh, you're using the State Department to obstruct our investigation.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Right. You're saying that this person who works for the executive branch who does not, you're having him stonewall us to obstruct this investigation. So while sometimes it seems very frustrating to see this kind of shit, that could be what is brewing with these sort of letters that are being sent around. When he says that the subpoenas are unprecedented, is like ignoring or refusing to comply with the subpoenas also unprecedented?
Starting point is 00:37:42 Like that didn't happen during like previous impeachment inquiries, right? People weren't just like, nah, fuck you. I mean, at this level. Yeah, like most of this is unprecedented. Like the whole, nobody's even sure if like McGuire broke the law by not forwarding this complaint to the intelligence committees within a week because like this has never happened before. Right. Like, yeah, like none of this is, yeah, this is all pretty, pretty unprecedented.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Right. Well, I guess, yeah, because it's weird. The wording of what D&I McGuire was supposed to do is very clear. There's no ambiguity. It's like shall, you know, shall, you know, hand it over. But if it's determined to be of urgent concern, which how do you define that? Right. He clearly didn't think it was.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Yeah. Right. It's more like, do you guys want to see this? This might be bad for you. I don't know. I just got here. I don't really want to be a part of this. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Well, that is one of the things you notice is that like it's, in all the coverage you'll read, it's like the acting inspector general. Right. We don't have anyone who's been appointed. Yeah. No one we can confirm. Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:41 He doesn't work that much, the president. Yeah. He doesn't. He's got a lot of takes. Yeah, exactly. He doesn't work that much, the president. Yeah, he doesn't. He's got a lot of takes. Well, right, because he doesn't work weekends, and he doesn't work most days, because he's got executive time where he gets to be pissed. I mean, he works a solid two days a week.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Yeah. Do you want him working more? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But nobody is hired. They haven't even filled some positions at all from Jump Street. And a lot of diplomatic positions too, which is why our whole international, a lot of our international relationships are... Can you think of any other time in history where a lot of career diplomats were suddenly gone, and then there was an international crisis, and things went horribly wrong.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Never happened before. Right. Yeah. I mean, can you give another time in history or since photographs have been around when a president hasn't aged at all since he's been in the presidency? He just looks about the same, you know.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Did you guys see the picture of him with the giant picture book the other day? No. Oh, there's a great picture. I think he's getting on a plane. He's wearing like his polo shirt and his big 45 hat. And he's got this huge book in his hands that's like clearly an animal picture book. And one of my colleagues over at Bellingcat, Eric Toler, like figured out that it was this book, like the big five animals of Africa.
Starting point is 00:40:07 And it's, like, just a book with, like, wildlife photos of, like, tigers and lions and elephants. Giraffes and stuff. And, like, information on their, like, health and stuff. Like, it's just, like, a big book of wildlife photography. I mean. It's kind of adorable. That's not for him, I'm assuming, right? I kind of think it might be.
Starting point is 00:40:25 I think he might. As long as it's not sharks. This might be the reality of the bear channel. Let's not make the same mistake we did with Bush where we like turn him into like a child. It's not a child book. Yeah. Okay. You're being tried for impeachment.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Like this is a very stressful time. How do you relax? I like looking at cat pictures. I like big meow meows. Yeah. I want to look at a tiger. I want to look at a tiger. They're strong.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Hey, look this up, Mick. Is there a way to ride a tiger? Get him the tiger book. He's stressed out. Yeah. Oh, Jesus. Like granted, he's aged, but he, like other presidents, it's fucking stark, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Like it. Yeah. Well, he looks, he already looked like shit. Right. So it's hard to know how much shitter he looked. But I think the biggest, the biggest thing you can tell is in his speech and shit like that. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:13 That's really where you're like, ooh. Well, that was already falling apart before he was president. So another thing that is continuing to happen uh amid the whistleblower uh or the impeachment inquiry is uh he is continuing to respond by threatening violence um yeah he's brought up the possibility of a civil war in response to him being removed from office uh and he you know implied that he wanted to have the whistleblower whoever supplied the whistleblower with information uh killed basically because they're a spy tried for treason basically a spy uh and he specifically said adam schiff uh he he had a tweet
Starting point is 00:42:01 uh representative adam schiff illegally made up a fake and terrible statement pretended it to be mine as the most important part of my call to the Ukrainian president read it aloud to Congress and the American people it bore no relationship to what I said arrest for treason question mark which Adam Schiff did a stupid thing where he did like a sarcastic reading of basically the subtext of the call yeah it wasn't a good move i love the responsibility of our elected leaders right i mean he was not like he was just being petty to try and be like funny about it yeah i'm like it's serious enough
Starting point is 00:42:38 yeah that you can just do and i get like i get the uh the desire to do that because you feel like you've been like rhetorically you've been rhetorically owned. Well, not rhetorically owned, but constantly being stonewalled. And now you finally get to fucking puff your chest out. Right. But the right ran with it, immediately edited it, and put it out there completely out of context. Claimed that he was. This isn't Saturday Night Live, man.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Right. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And nobody who was there and heard what he said in context would have misunderstood his intent or the content of his message in any way. But, you know, it was stupid in that this is the sort of thing that Trump will just run to try to have him killed. office that you're kind of legitimately worried for the whistleblower safety? I sure am. Because the protections under the law for intelligence community whistleblowers are basically non-existent?
Starting point is 00:43:32 Basically non-existent. There was a law or a presidential directive issued by Obama that added some protections, but it's still like there's a significant amount of legal precedent. And it's not one-sided because some judges agree with this. But like a lot of judges will say that like what this guy did falls under the Espionage Act, which is a World War I era law that basically says that if you reveal like privileged information that you have a reason to believe could impact national security, then that's fucking treason. You can be executed for it. And some whistleblowers have been ruled to be in violation of that. Some haven't.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Judges don't entirely agree on it. But Donald Trump, speaking of a guy who's been inconsistent a lot, one thing he's been super consistent about since Snowden came out in 2013, he has always said, execute him, execute whistleblowers. Like Trump was saying that well before 2016. Now that might seem almost remarkable until you realize he has been consistent about wanting everybody executed. Yeah. He wanted the Central Park Five executed.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Even after they were proven innocent innocent by dna evidence he wanted them uh executed there's nothing guiltier than being innocent right yeah person of color in his eyes right yeah so yeah i mean somebody pointed out uh in an op-ed recently that the civil war thing the way that trump uh has dangled it or suggests it could happen, it's probably not going to happen. Like he gets impeached and the people rise up because for him to be impeached by the Senate, like he would have to have become so unpopular that like he wouldn't have enough support to like mount a civil war.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I mean, although there are enough like militia groups who have outwardly to like mount a civil war. I mean, although there are enough like militia groups who have outwardly said, give us the word. It might not be like, Oh shit, a bunch of people pulled up, but it might be like a hundred people with the wrong idea. Did some.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Yeah. That's my worry is that there's a lot of terror attacks and stuff. Yeah. Right. By something like this. I don't think he's going to get the army of the Potomac or the army of Northern Virginia marching on DC or whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:48 But I think a whole lot of terrorism could be inspired. I mean, that's fair because what do we find? That it was like 22 million to 9 million in the Confederacy versus the Union? 22 in the Union. 22 in the Union versus 9 in the Confederacy. So I mean, it was... There's at least nine million people in this country
Starting point is 00:46:07 who'd be willing to go to bat with a gun for Donald Trump. Right. Now, granted, the country's much bigger than it was then, but still, it's... Like, those numbers, that would still look really bad if he only had nine out of 31 million people supporting him. That would be, like like less than 33%. So that would be like a very, you know, that would be Nixon level approval.
Starting point is 00:46:33 And one thing that really I don't like seeing is like, especially like over on Twitter, there's a bunch of posts pretty regularly, that'll be people making some variant of like, oh, yeah, like you get your rascal scooter ready for the Civil War, or like, take some picture of like a fat dude with a gun and be like, yeah, you're going to take care of them. And it's one of those things where I think, for one thing, those comments are made by people who don't have a really good understanding of what's happening in rural America, who don't have a real good understanding of like, what actually it takes for an insurgency to be dangerous.
Starting point is 00:47:01 And I'm very worried that if things go in the worst possible direction, we will look back on comments like that the way that we do now when we read about young men in the lead up to World War One being like, it's going to be over in three months. Like, I just hope that I get some time before Christmas comes and the war ends. Like, I hope I can make it to the front for a couple of days. For some good eating. Yeah. Yeah. Where it's, yeah, it's just this fundamental, this thing that we see before a lot of wars because the same thing happened in the civil war that we had where it's like you had union confederate boys being like i hope i don't miss the action right yeah uh every war there's
Starting point is 00:47:35 like this fundamental misunderstanding of what it's going to be like because war keeps changing in in very concrete ways and i uh i worry that that people are not at all ready for what could happen if the wrong... Anyway, look out forward to It Could Happen Here Season 2 with my new co-host, Donald J. Trump. Very excited to bring you this season. Yeah. Where we debate how the Civil War will go down. But yeah, I mean, when you think of people like the Oath Keepers, right, who are like first responders and like ex-military, current military, whatever, like that's a group of motivated people who are out here.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Trained in combat. Who are out here, who helped the elected, some of the elected leaders of the state of Oregon hide from justice recently in order to thwart a democratic process. And threaten to murder any police that came. Threaten to murder any police that came to murder police yeah no i don't i don't think anybody should be uh you know speaking confidently about uh being able to out violence uh trump and his supporters like this is yeah they are people who uh gun people there's a they like to well and i collect and shoot but the stakes are different? There's a group of people who might be comfortable being like, progress is where we need to go versus this other group
Starting point is 00:48:49 who's hell bent on maintaining this like racist status quo. Right. And like, this is an existential threat. Yes. I think the people, politically, it's an existential threat for a lot of people for Trump to be in office. But I don't know how many people, you know, are thinking the same way like these Oath Keepers who are like is our like this is the last stand this is the fucking guy yeah
Starting point is 00:49:09 and i mean look those you know whatever those numbers are but there are people in a very different headspace uh in regards to this and are like out here literally saying like president trump give us the word yeah right and we will you know whatever there's been people walking down the streets of portland with right-wing death squad shirts for the last three years because they really want to throw leftists out of helicopters. Right. Like it's one of those things where like and this is like I guess goes into like kind of how there's sort of a racial bias vis-a-vis terrorism on the left too. Because if the only difference is these guys were like Islamists saying the same shit, nobody would be like making fun of how overweight they are or how silly they are.
Starting point is 00:49:49 They'd be like, oh, wow, a bunch of like radicalized armed people are talking about overthrowing the government. We should take this seriously. Right. It's like, ah, they're white Christians. So like, they're just fat bubba's. We can ignore them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Yeah. Not a great idea, guys. No, not a good idea at all. But yeah, I think your podcast is great listening too, because we have a very abstract idea or a very misinformed idea of what modern armed conflict could look like within this country. Yeah. So, you know, another plug.
Starting point is 00:50:17 It could happen here. Yeah. It gives a really detailed kind of outline of what it would look like if a civil war were to happen here in these United States. So briefly, because we were talking about, you know, the fact that the Confederacy was 33, less than 33% approval, it is worth kind of taking a look at how impeachment is polling how trump is polling now that we've had a couple weeks or like a week and a half since the whole ukraine shit started hitting the fan so it seems like the mood is shifting overall a lot's shifting yeah well
Starting point is 00:51:00 there's just so much shit and like again they, again, they don't have a good – the right does not have an effective media strategy to talk about this without being like, I will fucking but 100. I'm like, what? Like, answer for this. And, again, look, a quick tip to the GOP. If your defense for a crime starts off with what about, you look guilty as fuck. The number one story on, like, the far right on like breitbart yesterday was about a photograph of joe biden and hunter biden golfing with a guy who was on
Starting point is 00:51:33 the board with like somebody from that gas company they're like see it's all good okay so should we if like look if they want to go there then let's pull out all the books on Trump's kids. But again, that's completely a distraction because we're avoiding talking about what the president actually did. Right. And it completely throws everything off. And I think that's how people on the right are able to maintain their sanity at the moment around this being like, well, yeah, I mean, Joe Biden probably is real sneaky. So maybe the president was looking out for tax dollars. I mean, I think I think people need to start acknowledging there is a like proximity to power bias in this country. Joe Biden's kid did get a shitty like lucky draw where he was probably given a ton of money just for being Joe Biden's kid.
Starting point is 00:52:20 And yeah, it all stinks like shit. And yeah, that all stinks like shit. And yeah, that's not great. Still, like, first of all, this president is as guilty of that as anybody in the entire world. And also like that has nothing to do with, I just like worry that the left and also the mainstream media are being like, yeah, but that's beside the point. And like ignoring that it is like the Biden thing is shady, like independently. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know if it's the kind of corruption, though, that is that amounts to like engaging foreign governments to get to the bottom of. No, I think that's no, no, no. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:52:59 That's where the media can. Yes. And these things will be like, yes, yeah, that is that nepotism maybe should be looked at i don't but again that doesn't excuse what you are doing and also just like look at the obama administration's actual handling of the ukraine crisis and it's like if that's if that's the obama administration bribed like you're not getting a lot for your bribe money yeah you couldn't even get them anti-tank missiles like We really kind of left their asses hanging in the... Well, yeah. But now the mood, right, around impeachment is his approval rating
Starting point is 00:53:31 is now six points lower than the support for impeachment. Right. And I now support impeachment as the next president. Yeah. You were saying that you want to elect... If the election was today, would you vote for president impeachment? I would vote for president impeachment. I think we should just never stop impeachment. Yeah. ABI, baby. Always be impeached. But yeah, so 41% of voting Americans approve of the way Trump is handling a presidency
Starting point is 00:53:55 against 53 who disapprove. And 47% think he should be impeached and removed from office. But as they note in this article, the figure is the same for those who think he should not. However, this is a 10-point movement on both in just five days. Right. And 10 points up for impeachment good, 10 points down for impeachment bad. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Which is, you know, it's actually very similar to what we saw happening with Nixon and stuff, where it's like up at the early stages of the Watergate, people were like, oh, it's not worth it. Don't wow. Like, why do we give a shit? I was shocked at how late it was in the proceedings. Well, Nixon being removed from office when he resigned was only 57%, first of all. Like, it was 57% support for that.
Starting point is 00:54:44 And he had only recently surpassed 50. It was under 50% like for basically years of the Watergate investigation. The idea of removing him from office wasn't, didn't have a majority. And then like, it was like the last week they were like, yeah, there was a tape released that had Nixon saying, yes, do the cover up of the crime. Yes, crime. Crime as hard as you can. Crime it up. Do the crime.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Crime it up, baby. And he was, that's when people changed. And he immediately resigned. That was like a week before he resigned, or like a couple weeks. Trump, overall approval, disapproval numbers are starting to move. like a couple of weeks, Trump overall approval, disapproval numbers are starting to move.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Like he was nine plus percent underwater when the news first started breaking. Now he's 12% under and also anecdotal, but I've talked before about how I stay subscribed to a Breitbart mail subscription, a mailing subscription thing. And I got an email from them. It's almost always just a scam email aimed at getting old people to invest in something that Bill O'Reilly supports. How much gold have you bought in the last year, Jack? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I have over 50% of my assets in gold. So this investment scam supported by Bill O'Reilly, So this investment scam supported by Bill O'Reilly, their email today was bragging that Trump had retweeted a link to an event where Bill O'Reilly was selling his pro-Trump book and scamming old people out of their money. And they were like, look, Trump supports our scamming old people out of their money, because I don't think that's what was happening. I think Trump was just like, hey, this book is good about me. But they also said after they screen grabbed his tweet, they said, love him or hate him, you can't ignore this. So they're making room for people on the right hating him, which is definitely not what I've come to expect from Breitbart. I mean, love him or hate him, he could end all human life with a push of a button. Yeah, with a fucking tantrum. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Oh, boy. I mean. One of my favorite side stories that did not get nearly enough play is the, I think it was the 46th Secretary of State, after Trump got elected, took to Twitter and all he would do was repeatedly explain to people, oh, no, there's no checks and balances with the nukes. He can do whatever he wants with the nukes. Everybody should know the president has no checks on his power to get in the way. Unless someone physically breaks the law and just was like, I'm going to restrain the president or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:14 It's like he like clearly is just, yeah, I wish people would ask any of the candidates about that. It's like, well, do you think we should change anything about that? Yeah. Should we just keep hoping that he's the last un unhinged doddering old man who becomes president right yeah and yeah he can have a fuck you temper tantrum button that just irreversibly changes that's a really good talk about that we're just going to keep talking about taxes okay that should become a thing yeah especially in the democratic like primary like what yeah how
Starting point is 00:57:42 are you going to limit the powers of the executive? It's out of control, and this has been a complete disaster for the country. Yeah. One of the great points everybody makes about how climate change should be getting more talk is that, yeah, the whole future of the species is on the line with climate change. But also with the nukes. Yeah, right. I feel like that's one that we really can say is right up there with climate. It'll change the climate, too. Very quickly. Very, very quickly very very quickly uh what a laugh yeah fun here uh all right we're gonna
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Starting point is 00:59:26 where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down
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Starting point is 01:00:03 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 01:02:44 woman had come out and basically said that a child she adopted who was supposed to be six was actually uh 22 yeah uh and was putting bleach in her coffee oh my god yeah would stand over her with a knife yeah she would wake up and she'd be standing over with a knife this is horrible well yeah one at the time it was like sort of being disputed because these parents are being charged with like child abandonment because they're like, no, like this is an adult who tried to kill us. And we're trying to say like, we can't be a guardian to this person. To this adult.
Starting point is 01:03:17 And they're like, that's why we're in Canada because we're taking care of our other child. We do acknowledge as being the parents of. Right. And this is some adult who tried to fucking kill us right and who attacked a baby well yes during while we were taking care of well do we know if that baby provoked him yeah that's exactly yeah i mean we but i mean there was tape so i think wasn't it seen over a baby monitor it was seen so there was not tape there it was just the uh yes live feed forward to the eli roth movie about this in a year and a half.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Right. Well, there already is a movie. It's called Orphan. And it's essentially basically beat for beat this story. But there's also a prolonged legal battle now because it's hard to prove that she's like there's a thing called a bone density test. And she has been found to be like a child and also an adult and like different i guess it's enough that like you can have one doctor take it with an eye towards proving that they're a child and they'll be able to prove that and another uh so i mean i think a big sign was that she had all of her adult teeth all of her adult teeth and full pubic hair at six. For what they believed was cool. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:27 God, there's just never a time pubic hair has come up in a court case and it not been a terrible court case. Yeah. Yeah. It's never good. Never good. But anyways, I think the Daily Mail has located the child on social media or the child, the orphan. Yeah. Adoptee on Natalia, I think her, uh, the, the orphan. Yeah. Uh, adoptee on,
Starting point is 01:04:46 on, uh, Natalia. I think her name is, uh, they located her on social media. She is now living as a child with a different family. Uh,
Starting point is 01:04:56 so according to her timeline, she's 15. Uh, they still appear to be dressing her and children's clothes, but the parents are apparently aware of all of this and choosing to just treat her like the child she chooses to live as. Oh, boy. You know, as long as she's not...
Starting point is 01:05:14 Poisoning their coffee with bleach? Yeah. Poisoning, like trying to murder them. Yeah. That is the minimum I ask for in a roommate. Yeah. Yeah. But if my roommate chooses to live as a child,
Starting point is 01:05:26 but that's what makes them happy and feel like they're living a fulfilled life, I'm happy to do that. Yeah. They believe what she's 13 or 14 at the moment. 15. Oh, 15. Or no, I'm sorry, 16. She would be.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Oh, okay. Got it. And they seem very devoted to all of their adopted children. Yeah, they seem like a really lovely family. I wonder if she figured out, she's like, all right, I got to tone it back a little bit. Right. If I want a family unit to stay in, I got to dial back the killing stuff. Right, talking about how-
Starting point is 01:06:00 They don't teach you that in orphan school. No. Yeah. That's one you got to learn on the streets. Yeah. When did Orphan come out? Is it possible that she was in a facility where the movie Orphan was on loop and gave her a bunch of bad ideas? No, I think it was after the fact.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Oh, then she should actually be suing the studio. Right. For infringing on her intellectual property. Well, let's talk about something equally terrifying. The official Dunkin' halloween costume oh i love this wait there's a dunkin they nailed it what the fuck is a dunk you as a donut right so we talked uh previously about how their taco bell is putting out halloween costumes uh food-based clothing is is the wave right now fast food fast food-based clothing uh and dunkin donuts decided to join the halloween
Starting point is 01:06:48 costume with so that you know there's a uh a saying that we have in these parts america runs on duncan and uh the way they express this is outline of the united States, outline of man running, and then Duncan. Clever. Oh, America run on, and then it's above Duncan. America run Duncan. I wonder how many hundreds of thousands of dollars that ad campaign cost to put together. Right. And how do we know the tents based on those images? Right.
Starting point is 01:07:18 It could be ran? Running? America run Duncan. That would suggest that america that duncan donuts is run by a popular like popular vote but from right right i mean it could also just looking at the image it could also suggest that america reenacts the ministry of silly walk sketch from monty python uh over duncan yeah yeah it looks like the person could be falling down while trying to do a yoga pose. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:47 But. Or Superman. Or Superman. They've decided that they want to, the yellow, or the pink stick finger is how they decided to turn the concept of Duncan into a Halloween costume. Brilliant. And it is basically like that. It's Charlie Day, but in, from Always Sunny,
Starting point is 01:08:12 but in a pink costume instead of a green one. Yeah, and apparently there's a rubber man from season one of American Horror Story that is just a person in like a full black rubber, full body, full face, black rubber. Like gimp suit? Gimp suit, essentially. And this is the pink version of that.
Starting point is 01:08:33 It's such a dumb, it has, in my, I mean, you must really be a Dunkin' Donuts fan. I'm sure Jamie Loftus would know the significance of this. But if I saw it, I'd be like, what the, so people are now pink man? Like we're off green man now? Yeah, it's a terrible idea in every conceivable way
Starting point is 01:08:47 and the only thing that gives me comfort is knowing that the people responsible for this idea make more money than say nurses or teachers oh so much more you could run two or three schools and they're succeeding by us covering it
Starting point is 01:09:03 they are yeah I didn't say they didn't earn every dime Jack every penny for sure You could run two or three schools. And they're succeeding by us covering it. They are? Yeah. They are. So, I mean. I didn't say they didn't earn every dime, Jack. Yeah. Every penny. For sure. Apparently also community did a thing.
Starting point is 01:09:12 And all of the pop culture references where they do this are a reference to how creepy it is. Yeah. Well, you know, good luck to Duncan. I think a donut maybe would have been a better idea or a food item. Oh, they don't play up the donuts part. That's why they're just Dunkin' now. They're just Dunkin', man. We do a lot, man.
Starting point is 01:09:33 We got dippies, stickies, and sandies. Miles, you're not thinking outside of the donut box. Yeah. Okay. You guys want to hear what I would have done as the ad campaign? Of course I want to know what kind of idea you have about this. Just a black poster with red letters, Starbucks coffee smells like cat piss. Wow. No other branding. Just straight up go into that. Just an attack on Starbucks. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:09:55 just an attack on Starbucks. And eventually people figured out for themselves who's funding this campaign, who's paying for all of these. Do you believe that Starbucks? Yeah, I think it smells like cat piss. I don't like Starbucks coffee. Do you believe that Starbucks? Yeah, I think it smells like cat piss. Do you believe in life after love? Yes. I don't know why. I can feel something inside me say I really don't think you're strong enough. Oh. And I know that I can do this. But
Starting point is 01:10:15 back to the cat piss thing. Is it all just their drip coffee? I don't really get coffee. I only get drip coffee. I don't like the mixes, but they're drip coffee. So you're a Dunkin' man, huh? There's like a tartness to it that reminds me of drinking cat piss. If I'm going to pick coffee from like a big chain that's everywhere,
Starting point is 01:10:34 I will pick Dunkin' ahead of Starbucks all the time. I'll pick Pete's ahead of Dunkin'. Obviously, Phil's is the best of the chains that we have access to here on the West Coast. Is that right? Because they do a decent Turkish. Yeah, it's not actually Jezva coffee, but they put a little bit of cardamom in it and some mint. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Nails it. What is that? What is a Turkish? Turkish coffee? Well, like, actual Turkish coffee is usually made in this weird pot. Jack, does Turkish mean what to? No. I was just curious what a Turkish was.
Starting point is 01:11:03 It's like, yeah, like, they have a special type of pot that they make it in, but also Turkish and Arabic coffee often includes cardamom, which is really good in a black coffee. So they spice up your life. And sometimes a little bit of mint or something. If you get a Sarajevo coffee, it's a Turkish coffee served with a cigarette, which is... Really?
Starting point is 01:11:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like what, they'll give you a loosey with it? Yeah, if you go into the Balkans, yeah, they'll give you a fucking cigarette with your? yeah if you go into the Balkans yeah they'll give you a fucking cigarette with your one loose cigarette with your coffee that's a Sarajevo coffee but if you're like
Starting point is 01:11:29 give me Sarajevo then if you don't say give me Sarajevo there's no no it'll say it on the menu Sarajevo coffee that's how I figured it out I was like oh
Starting point is 01:11:37 I've tried a lot of coffees I'll try a Sarajevo coffee it was just Turkish coffee with a cigarette was it lit? like somebody had smoked part of it? but home dude
Starting point is 01:11:44 popped a lighter out as soon as I set the thing down. Really? He knew I wanted it. Damn. Well, fuck. They didn't write about that in Zlata's diary. Go to the Balkans, yo. Did y'all have to read that book? No. Zlata's diary back in the 90s that was about she was growing up in Sarajevo? No.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Oh, man. Did anything bad happen there at some point? I don't know. I didn't read it. I've only read the history of Bosnia from like 1998 to present, and it seems like a pretty smooth ride. Yeah, from what I have. If we bury our heads in the sands like we do in the American. Yeah. In the American.
Starting point is 01:12:14 See, I need my Dunkin'. Is Pete's the most caffeinated coffee of the chains? I think I read that somewhere. Really? Is that even a thing? Are they flexing on each other with their caffeine count? No, you have to like look at the website Caffeine Informer. Pete's is acceptable coffee.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Wait, the website Caffeine Informer? Is that a real fucking thing? Jack, you just changed my life. Hold on. Caffeine Informer. Y'all don't know about Caffeine Informer? You know Slammy Slammy. I'm trying to get jittery now.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Oh my God. Yeah, Caffeine Informer is great. Caribou Coffee, the complete caffeine well, this is... I'm gonna have to cancel our recording sessions for the rest of the day. Yeah. Just to look at Caffeine Informer? Yeah. Dunkin' Donuts Coffee Caffeine Content Guide. Damn.
Starting point is 01:12:56 Caribou is very caffeinated. Yeah. Also, tastes similar to Dunkin', so maybe Dunkin's more caffeinated than I thought. Oh, they're really out here like, ranking this shit. They are. Yeah, they do the milligrams and everything. They have a whole chart if you're like, hey, if you want La Cologne. I've never talked about
Starting point is 01:13:11 Caffeine Informer on the podcast. No, you haven't. You're like keeping that, you're hiding a child from us, Jack. You're hiding a child. Okay, Drake of caffeine. Could we just turn this website into a podcast? You are hiding a child. Damn, dude.
Starting point is 01:13:28 The large caribou brewed coffee, 385 milligrams of caffeine. That's a lot of caffeine. Is that a lot? That is a substantial amount. So for some comparison, the large for a brood of Dunkin's is just 300. That means that a caribou coffee large has more than a Duncan extra large of brood coffee. Oh, okay. Damn, son.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Where'd you find those? Caffeine informer. Let's talk about the Joker movie. People, so there are stories that are coming out basically on the daily about how this movie is a threat. on the daily about how this movie is a threat, uh, because it's basically, it's created, uh,
Starting point is 01:14:09 what time magazine is saying, uh, a character who could be the patron saint of incels, uh, slash film. I have some bad news for them. Put it more subtly. Uh,
Starting point is 01:14:19 yeah, that there already is one. Yeah. That there's a couple. Yeah. Elliot Rogers. Uh, the slash film critic was like
Starting point is 01:14:26 feels like if scorsese made taxi driver is a comic book film amazing performance great score but i'm not sure it knows what it's trying to say could potentially be dangerous for the wrong person to watch uh i think those are fine things to uh i mean i think it's a it's a mixture of like people believing that violent film and TV makes people act violent and also a lot of residual trauma from the Aurora shooting. Yeah, right. We've begun to attach this sort of mythos around what the Joker character could inspire people. something that i had uh that had stuck to me the the myth that uh the shooter at the aurora shooting uh who shot up a movie theater where the dark knight rises was being played um that he had said the words i am the joker when he was arrested uh that myth comes from raymond, former NYPD chief, who had no bearing on the arrest. And police who did arrest him were like, we don't know where that came from.
Starting point is 01:15:34 He had dyed hair, I guess. Yeah, right. In my mind, he was dressed as the Joker in my memory of the story. Not at all. He was dressed like a mass shooter right right um he was extremely mentally ill he was very mentally ill he had a weird set of beliefs about like that he like he didn't have any value as a person for some like weird esoteric reason that by killing other people that would increase like his relative right he had he had he was a profoundly mentally ill
Starting point is 01:16:03 young man uh who had like not that which is actually pretty uncommon in mass shooters, who, like, had a long history of, like, he'd been working with a therapist. He was like, yeah, this was, yeah, was very concerned about him. And it had nothing at all to do other than the fact that he picked what was going to be, he wanted to kill people. So he picked what would be the most popular showing, the fucking Dark Knight Rises. Right. It could have been fucking the Jumanji remake if it had been a year later.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Yeah. Or whatever. My timing isn't exactly right. It could have been the King speech. Right. It could have been a year later. Well, it seems like there's a lot of agencies, too, drumming up even more fear,
Starting point is 01:16:41 like a lot of official notices going out to people about, hey, be careful at this movie. I did you read the army notices to like off duty soldiers where they're like. Find two points of exit. Yeah. Keep your head on a swivel. It's like, yeah, they're not warning you how to like be safe with your off duty in a Baghdad bazaar.
Starting point is 01:17:01 They're talking about going to a cinema. Like, that's not a great sign for the culture. And they were instructed to run, hide, fight. Yeah. Right. Yeah, there's a lot of... I mean, because also, like, can you really call the Joker an incel? Because I believe Harley Quinn, he had a main thing.
Starting point is 01:17:15 The Joker is... What's the polite way to phrase this? Dripping in it. I mean, he's the Joker, right? Like, he's a sexy guy. Everybody thinks the Joker's sexy. Heath Ledger played him last time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Right. Yeah. Yeah, no, I wanted to fuck the Joker. Everybody wants to fuck the Joker. That's never been debated in our culture. Right. But I think it's, yeah, it's just that the story that they're presenting of his backstory is like, too many people are going to relate to.
Starting point is 01:17:42 And it's funny because Todd Phillips, the director, has been really fucking terrible at talking about this film. It turned into like, oh, you know, people are freaking out for no fucking reason, blah, blah, blah. It's funny because one thing that we should note is that there was a woman
Starting point is 01:18:00 who was actually inspired by a Todd Phillips film to do something bad. If you remember in Wedding Crashers, the visine and the drink move, a woman did that to her fiance. And when they arrested her, she was like, oh, I think I saw it in Wedding Crashers. Yeah. And that does fuck you up real bad.
Starting point is 01:18:16 It's not great. But recently, just the other day, I think yesterday, he had an interview in Vanity Fair, and he was basically saying that first he's like this isn't some kind of incel like anthem but also woke culture is ruining everything yes and he says this is a direct quote from this thing he says king go try to be funny nowadays with this woke culture there were articles written about why comedies don't work anymore i'll tell you why because all the fucking funny guys are like fuck this shit because don't want to offend you. It's hard to argue with 30 million people on
Starting point is 01:18:47 Twitter. You just can't do it. Right? So you just go, I'm out, I'm out. And you know what? With all my comedies, I think, I think that what comedies in general all have in common is they're irreverent. So I go, how do I do something irreverent, but fuck comedy? Oh, I know. Let's take the comic book movie universe and turn it on its head with this. And so that's really where that came from. Oh, God. Cool. Again, so disingenuous to just blame the societal progress on your inability to adapt your ability to create new ideas.
Starting point is 01:19:20 I mean, he does have a point in that you can't do an irreverent comedy anymore, which is why Always Sunny in Philadelphia is only on season 14. South Park is only on season 25. You just can't do that anymore. Yeah. Unless you're one of the many people who gets paid tens of millions of dollars to do it. Yeah. I mean, think about all the funny guys. All the funny guys.
Starting point is 01:19:42 There's no comedy on TV. I mean, I don't know if you saw the Between Two Ferns movie, but I think that was probably completely direct by PC culture. Because he doesn't stay in line with PC culture, David Chappelle can't get millions of dollars to be part of an incredibly popular Netflix series anymore, which is why nobody's heard from him in years. It's such a, anyway, I mean, Todd Phillips.
Starting point is 01:20:01 I think he doesn't under, he's not willing to see what other people are seeing about his project without taking it like personal offense to it. Yeah. And I like we said, I mean, some of the shit that's being directed at his movie is somewhat baseless, but it's still it has nothing to do with woke PC culture and the fact that, you know, our politics are evolving and improving and you should still be funny unless you have really problematic beliefs. I think that in terms of like what the actual threat from this is, I would say, yeah, I mean, it's theoretically possible some person who is very unbalanced sees this and decides that to do something as a result of it just like with taxi driver convinced somebody to shoot at the president there's always a chance of that just because there's a lot of people who have all sorts of different shit going in their heads and you never know when someone's going to watch wedding crashers and decide to poison their spouse or whatever I think the much likelier thing is that
Starting point is 01:21:02 this is used as a joke by the next channer who decides to shoot up a whatever and they decide to blame it on the Joker movie just because it's going to cause a shit fit and it's going to get people talking just like sort of the Christ them being like, well, if I name drop the Joker before I go on this mass shooting, then that's going to like dominate the narrative and I'll get extra days out of the news cycle about this and it'll do more to like lead to the unraveling of this country, which is my ultimate goal as a mass shooter with these weird white nationalist beliefs. And in that case, you could argue that just sort of like the massive media debate that's been kicked up over like, is this movie dangerous or not, is actually the most potentially dangerous thing about it. Because everybody's like focusing on like, is this going to spawn a mass shooter? So mass shooters like, oh shit, well, if I want to really stand out, because it is a
Starting point is 01:21:55 crowded field for mass shootings these days. If I want to stand out, name drop the Joker before somebody else does. Right. Yeah. And you can just tell there's just, it's just exploiting an existing fear that people have because, I mean, this, and it's completely a product of just our reality in this country where, yeah, people commit these atrocities and some people are sort of savvy in terms of the internet
Starting point is 01:22:17 and like to infuse other cultural touch points to try and amplify their effect or at least the discussion around it. Yeah. One thing that a lot of people don't tell you is that when he shot Reagan, inspired by Taxi Driver, to impress Jodie Foster, Jodie Foster was actually really impressed. Oh, she was really down. Was that the whole deal?
Starting point is 01:22:39 Like he had it all mixed up in his head or something? He didn't even hate Reagan. He just wanted to, yeah. So it wasn't just that. It was also another thing that was mixed in there was the assassination of John Lennon and the Beatles. And he was inspired by the person who shot John Lennon. And their relationship to Catcher in the Rye, I think, was tied in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Like the actual, whenever you look at the actual shootings that have been, or the actual crimes that have been inspired by movies, the problem is never the movie. The problem is always like that we have this completely broken mental health care system. And so there's just going to be a certain number of people out there who are going to like find inspiration and whatever, because they have a serious problem that desperately needs help right right but the vast majority of our of our people who do shit like that aren't inspired by a movie they're inspired by months and years of propaganda to carry out uh what they see as a military attack right which is why you're seeing more of that lately than just some rando
Starting point is 01:23:41 shooting up a school yeah right yeah yeah so Well, that and the easy access to those weapons to make that even as efficient as possible. It sure don't help. No. So in conclusion, we should keep the Joker movie from being released, but allow Fox News to keep being on every day where they tell you that you're under attack
Starting point is 01:24:01 from your neighbors. Really got to keep the price of AR-15s low. Yes. Definitely lower than a month of therapy. Right. Because the subtext of all this is like, let's blame the Joker and not the systemic issues that lead to the formations of these kinds of personalities.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Because it's really easy. Because then you ask, well, how do we deal with this? Okay, well, we got to ban guns. It's like, well, but we got the Second Amendment thing, this large chunk of the country that won't go with that. And so now we've got this political battle, and it's like, ah, fuck that. Let's just talk about the Joker. Yeah, right, exactly.
Starting point is 01:24:28 I mean, yeah, I think Todd Phillips sucks. I'm eating you. Where did I get involved in this? All right, that's it for today. We're not going to take another quick break. We're going to just fucking leave. Switcheroo. Switcheroo.
Starting point is 01:24:42 Robert, it's been so fun having you, man. It's been great being here. Where can people find you? On Twitter at I Write Okay. I have a podcast called Behind the Bastards, which you can listen to if you like podcasts about terrible people. Who are you talking about this week? We're about to talk about the Clown World meme. I don't know when that one will be dropping, but the president just retweeted from clown world stuff.
Starting point is 01:25:07 So that's a fun one. That's a fun meme to really get into. We did a Jerry Falwell episode recently. Yeah. I'm excited for that one to drop. And I have another podcast with Katie and Cody from Some More News called Worst Year Ever, which is about the worst year ever, 1972. You guys said that somewhere.
Starting point is 01:25:34 I think when they came on Behind the Bastards and never, never clarified that you were joking. So I will do that now and point out that it is about the current political atmosphere and 2020 being the worst year ever, contrary to what Robert thinks as the host of the show. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying, friend? Yeah, it's a tweet from months ago, but it still makes me laugh every time I read it. And it's from Darcy Wilder, who's one of my favorite Twitterers. Has anyone ever showed Ted Kaczynski a gif? I think it might change his mind.
Starting point is 01:26:05 That's funny. Miles, where can people find you? Find me, follow me, Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey. Before I get to my tweets, though, I want to let people know, again, October 16th, 7 p.m., okay, in Chicago, at the Hungry Brain,
Starting point is 01:26:22 okay, you can see super producer Anna Hosnier and Shireen Younes do their show, Ethnically Ambiguous, live for the Chicago Podcast Festival. We were there last year, so please pull up. Get your tickets at, just search Chicago Podcast Festival. Get your tickets. Show up.
Starting point is 01:26:37 There might be some cool merch. There might be something signed. You don't know. You might never know, but you won't know until you go. Man, Twitter went off. I actually have signed you don't know you might never know but you won't know until you go there man twitter went off i actually have a few i like uh first one is from extina underscore katherine it says i used to work at a boutique in hollywood billy zane shopped there so often we made it into a game whoever could say his full name to his face the most time wins the restroom is closed billy zane those look great on you billy zane oh my god sorry i. Sorry, I don't smoke, Billy Zane.
Starting point is 01:27:06 That's just the idea of saying Billy Zane's name to his face. Another one from at Lbrambram. High school teachers you could be real with. History teachers. English teachers. High school teachers that were cops. Math teachers. Gym teachers.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Uh-huh. And then finally, from Prim Awesome, at Prim Awesome, Mike Primavere says, My neighbor told me coyotes keep eating his outdoor cats. So I asked how many cats he has. And he said he just goes to the shelter and gets a new cat afterwards. So I said, it sounds like he's just feeding shelter cats to coyotes. And then his daughter started crying. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:27:41 And then finally, just because there is Trump's alert is that account that follows all the Trump family, like their likes and their follows, retweets and shit. And they said that real Donald Trump's account liked this tweet from Eric Swalwell. Yes. And it's basically, Eric Swalwell tweeted, intimidating witnesses and threatening investigators is what most innocent people do when facing charges. Yes. And then he facing charges. Yes. And then he liked that.
Starting point is 01:28:06 Yes. Come the fuck on. He's like, exactly. Exactly. I'm innocent. Wow. I'm convinced. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:14 Cody Johnson tweeted, dating apps are good because you get to meet so many entrepreneurs. Mirror Celeb tweeted, Kanye West claims LA is run by Satan on his new album and Satan at S8N tweeted he needs to mind his business yeah facts facts
Starting point is 01:28:35 Fred Delicious tweeted nobody says butt munch anymore despite people eating ass at unprecedented levels Bog Person tweeted, everyone smokes a bunch now and wants to die and has detailed opinions about art and it felt cool and interesting until I realized we're just becoming France.
Starting point is 01:28:55 And Leon tweeted, if she's your girl, then why is she heating me in a tartara at 1200 degrees Celsius and folding me over and over to draw out any undissolved impurities before forging me into
Starting point is 01:29:09 a seven layered blade it's a good question from Leon you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien you can find me you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist
Starting point is 01:29:18 we're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram we have a Facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information
Starting point is 01:29:28 that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what's that gonna be today? Okay, for the song, let's go out on something light, a little up-tempo, because, you know, it's a bit of a heavy episode. This one is from Toa Tei. Now, Toa Tei is
Starting point is 01:29:44 this producer who got his start with the group D-Lite. If you remember, Groove is in the Heart. Okay? Groove is in the Heart. Great producer. And also made a great song called Tec Nova featuring Bebel Gilberto, the fantastic Brazilian vocalist. You might remember this. If you actually listen to this song all the way through and you're a Tribe Called Quest fan, you might recognize this as a sample from Find A Way from the Love Movement album
Starting point is 01:30:08 that was helped produce by J Dilla. Okay. A little bit of hip-hop history for you. Okay. Yeah. So take this little, it's a groover. You know what I mean? It feels lighthearted.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Get your shoulders popping. Real good music in the office. I don't know which one this is, but it's probably very good. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for today. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast,
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