The Daily Zeitgeist - Chocolate Easter War And The Hotdog Flavored Water 03.29.24

Episode Date: March 29, 2024

In episode 1650, Jack and guest co-host Ben Bowlin are joined by co-host of Secretly Incredibly Fascinating, Alex Schmidt, to discuss… 7-Eleven’s Hot Dog Seltzer Is Probably/Hopefully A Joke, The “War on Easter” Is Raging In The UK and more! 7-Eleven’s Hot Dog Seltzer Is Probably/Hopefully A Joke Hot dog-flavored hard seltzer and barbecue sauce beer? Yes, really This Hard Seltzer Is Brewed with Leftover Hot Dog Water The “War on Easter” Is Raging In The UK ‘Gesture eggs’: Britain’s next ‘war’ on Easter Iceland faces backlash after Christian symbol on hot cross buns replaced with ticks Iceland thanks Tory MPs for sales boost from hot cross reaction to ‘tick’ bun Cadbury store accused of erasing Easter by selling ‘gesture eggs’ Theresa May condemns National Trust for axing 'Easter' from egg hunt The National Trust's egg hunters crack on despite controversy The war on Easter eggs v the Archbishop of York – who will crack first? Why Easter Eggs? Inside the Origins and History of the Tradition The history of the hot cross bun LISTEN: Make Friends by Hiatus KaiyoteSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So you're going to hear me like having weird things where I'm like trying to, you know, that there are digestive things happening behind my voice that might affect how things sound anyways my name is Jack O'Brien aka eight six seven five Jack O'Brien that is courtesy of hanner amic view on the discord I feel like that might have been done before but it's a it's an absolute classic once again from hanner amic view on an absolute tear right now like a dimaggio-esque streak of consistency from hannaramic view on the discord it is wonderful to have you back hannah i'm thrilled to be joined in my second seat by a guest co-host with the guest mo host you know him from stuff they don't want you to know ridiculous history please welcome the brilliant and talented ben bolin yes they get them boling yes yeah uh aka secret frenchman uh i think we're going with yes uh which will all right it'll make sense we'll explain it once we bring in our guest.

Our guest thrilled to be joined by one of the best podcast hosts doing it. Also a thing that I usually say when I introduce Ben, one of the best podcast hosts. We got two of the best podcast hosts doing it. He's my old friend from the crack days, a Jeopardy champion, the host of the wonderful podcast, secretly incredibly fascinating. It's Alex Schmitt! Hey!

It is so good to be here and filling in the canon for folks immediately. Ben was very nice when he met me and he brought up Jeopardy, but he sort of said it like Jeopardy a little bit. And we noticed that he might have been secretly French this whole time. Yeah. Yeah, his mask slipped and been secretly French this whole time. Yeah. Yeah. His mask slipped and he's French. That's the stuff they don't want you to know. Ben Bolin, a French guy.

I don't know if we can handle it, folks. He didn't even say Jeopardy. It was just like he was like, I see you were on Jeopardy. It was like the way he came up at the end. The up speak at the end, the up-speak at the end, but yeah, there was just something very suspiciously French about the whole

thing, Ben. We're talking about it, guys, and I am so impressed by anybody who can go on Jeopardy. It was a bit of a conversational gambit because, Alex, I have followed your work. As you guys know, I'm a huge fan of crack.com and a lot of the other work that you've done. Well, it was a conversational gambit. There was a

non-zero chance that I might have guessed the wrong Alex, and I would have gotten a Jeopardy question wrong, literally. So that's why. But I am aware of the show i know it's a thing all thoughts and answers will be expressed in the form of questions during this episode which is going to be a real mind fuck we're not up to it but we're going to do it anyways loud buzzers to watch out just huge yeah after i like start a sentence and don't really figure out where it's going, we'll get the timeout sound. I'm in a bit of a conundrum with it. So Ben gave me detailed notes on how to make friends with the murder of crows that was menacing my backyard. Now I have a situation where a squirrel is eating the nuts that I'm leaving out for the crows. And you can actually see the squirrel get fatter day to day. The squirrel is so fat from all the, like I said, I'm worried about the squirrel's health now, but it doesn't stop him from coming back for multiple feedings. But anyways, I think I'm making progress with the crows, but they're, they can be withholding. We talked about this, man. It's hanging out earlier, and I know it might have been coming off kind of strange

where the first thing I asked you instead of like, oh, hey, it's good to see you. How are you? How is your life? Instead, I was like, fill me in on the crow situation, man. How's the murder? You said, how's the murder? Really loud in a crowded room. And I do dabble in murder.

So it was very, yeah. Just trying to get away with it. Like no big deal. Big fan of your work, man. Oh, thanks. Thanks. Yeah. Of the murders.

Yeah. Of my murders. But Alex, how have you been doing? Been a while. Doing great. Thanks. Been a while. Good to see you.

Yeah. I don't know. It's been a good start to the spring. And their podcast is doing a membership drive that has been going well. And I'm going to travel soon to Columbus, Ohio to see family. I'm very excited to visit Columbus, Ohio. Yeah. You have a lot of family in Columbus?

Give me tips. Yeah. My brother and my sister-in-law and their new baby. So that's all very nice. Oh, wow. Is it your first time going to Columbus? It actually is, yeah. Yeah, they haven't been there that long.

Yeah. Okay. That's where one Dr. Mr. Cody Johnston is from, I believe. Yeah. So, yeah. Home of Ohio State University. Maybe I will get a Bucckeye thing or find out exactly what a buckeye is i know it's a very hard tree seed of some kind it is find out yeah i once got when i

lived in dayton ohio i once got into a fight with some neighborhood kids who lived up the street and we were throwing buckeyes at one another and then I threw their bike into the creek. I just like went from like one to a thousand, like right away. Um, you were whole doubt. Yeah. Yeah. I was crying.

I was weeping the whole time that I did it. So it was not very hulky more. I don't, I don't know who the superhero character is, who is weeping while he does his damage. Yeah. It's very emotionally unstable. Eight-year-old. All right. Well, Alex, we are thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk economics.

We got to cut three storied economists on the show. No, I actually have no idea what you guys' economist econ bona fides are. I don't know shit. I've been puzzling over this. This story's been on the dock for like three weeks. It's a mess, but I'm just like trying to get my head around this story that I keep seeing where it's like the economy is not behaving the way we expect it to. And but it is behaving the way like I would expect it to based on like what I know about

how things are currently working. So just want to like talk through some of the things that seem to be missing from the mainstream conversation on economics. Yeah. And make sure just like for Ben to understand it, he'll probably want to convert it into like euros or frames or baguettes or something. Baguettes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So imagine I got three baguettes.

Oh, okay. And then I got three baguettes. Oh, okay. And then you come with a clap. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. The French burrito, as you called it. The French burrito. Yeah, yeah. Then we'll get into even more serious stuff.

7-Eleven's hot dog seltzer. They've just announced there's a hot dog seltzer. Hot Dog Seltzer, they've just announced. There's a Hot Dog Seltzer. And it's not a holiday season unless people on the right have created a fake war on it. And so Easter coming up on Sunday, there's a controversy, a controversy happening because it's happening in the UK. So isn't that how they say it? They like put the emphasis on a different syllable. But yeah, it's the biggest British candy controversy

since Willy Wonka murdered all those kids. So we'll talk about that because they're taking the word Easter off some Cadbury eggs and people are pissed. But before we get to... Yeah, because how would you know the egg candy is about easter without the word right there's so many egg candy situations which which egg candy is this this is right all the other news stories in the world need to take a seat because that's the real issue right yeah we're actually going to skip the economic thing and just go get right to

the easter candy because that is what's important. But before we get to that incredibly important story, Alex, we do like to get to know our guests by asking them what is either something from your search history or something that you recently screen capped? Yeah, I saw a very good TikTok because it debunked another TikTok. But it led me to do a lot of Googling of Penn and Teller's friendship. Whether the magician's Penn and Teller are friends or not. Do not tell me that's also an illusion.

That was the thing. What I saw, it's a stitch, right? Like they show the start of somebody's video and then something else. Yeah. And so the initial video was somebody claiming that Penn and Teller hate each other and can't stand each other and never spend time together. And then they debunked it by, it's the account is October Dad. I just want to credit them. But they didn't speak. They just showed a clip of Penn and Teller talking about how much they care about each other.

I mean, it's just Penn talking, but Teller is nodding, you know. about how much they care about each other. I mean, it's just Penn talking, but Teller is nodding, you know. And it turns out there's basically a thing where in some interviews, Penn has said that they were not initially super close. And like, there wasn't a lot of emotional things going into their decision to be a partnership. And then if you do the full quotes, full context, fully, just see them express it. It's this really fascinating thing about creative partnerships where he talks about how they,

over 40 plus years, have grown into being each other's closest friends and really care about each other. Oh, shit. Oh, he burned him. He burned his ass. That's interesting. How'd you burn, bro? yeah i i've heard something like this

i'm glad to hear it debunked i guess familiarity creates that friendship right but i i was under the impression it was a business decision and i i in the beginning right and it makes me think of you know famous comedy duos like uh mitch, you know, you always want to picture, you know, the partnerships being cool friends who hang out, we're already really close. And then they just said, let's also do this as our job. But man, I was, I'm so glad this is busted, Alex, because I was under the impression it was solely a business relationship, you know, where like they've been together for 40 years and now they're just getting to the point where they vaguely know the names of each other's spouses or something like that. Right, right. How's Sally?

Always a question mark at the end of the spouse's name. Jeopardy? Is that her name? How is Jeopardy? He did say, before he said Jeopardy, he did say, how you say Jeopardy? Which is what kind of confused me. Oh, man. And he kept playing the accordion.

It was so weird. You got to put the practice in, is the thing, guys. You can't just pick it up exactly like they as he talked about he said that for one thing when they started working together Penn was around 18 years old and Teller was around 25 years old

so they have aged into that feeling normal because they're both just old now Penn is the one who talks Penn talks yeah get it because he's Tell Because he's the teller. He's the teller. Got it. Oh, that's a helpful mnemonic and also

probably the whole point and I just missed it. He said when they would first speak, because behind the scenes they both speak, but he described it as almost like an email relationship verbally early on. It would just be we like they met each other in the scene of doing stuff and they would basically only talk to like go over things.

And then they live together and spent basically every minute together because that worked financially and also they could work together a lot. But then, yeah, he went on to describe, it's just pen talking, but he goes on and he's describing like, yeah, like, like just over time, the profound amount of respect we have for each other has made it so we're each other's closest friends. Like Teller is the first person who saw my children other than me and my wife after they were born. And, and he contrasted it with something like Lennon and McCartney, where he said like, Lennon and McCartney is a love affair. So, like, that's explosive and that can burn out. And there's a lot of emotion going into working together. But we just have had such profound respect for each other the entire time that we didn't need to be emotionally close early on.

And we have become each other's closest friend. Also, you know, it makes you wonder when you work really closely with someone, even if you vibe with them very well, you get to a point where you don't want to also hang out after work, right? Like you see someone every day for eight hours. Don't you want to have a Saturday to yourself? to yourself you know yeah and fans just expect because that's the only way they know you they expect that that's how you exist off mic or off you know stage as well or off beetles i don't know what the term is for that but wings it's wings it's wasting on a band i was just going to bring up the beetles because yeah i mean there's this like physics of truth on the internet where like whatever the most counterfactual version of things is is going to be like the most interesting and

that's the thing that's going to get like spread so like and i don't maybe it's not just the internet i think it's maybe like just how truth and like history works because like i was i remember when the beatles documentary came out the the one where the like get back just the like being struck by how much you could tell they actually enjoyed each other's company there was definitely like a whole history there but there was an unmistakable thing that had been missing for me like i assumed that they would be icy toward one another at this point late in the like when they had already like kind of broken up and then gotten back together and like they there was so much at stake and then you see them like get into the studio together

and like some of them are showing up like four hours late and like they're immediately just like hey man like it's just watching like two old friends hang out and like that just kind of gets erased from the version that we like tell each other because it's not as interesting to be like you know these people who are great like songwriting collaborators yeah they like got along pretty pretty well they were good days and bad days yeah yeah exactly good days and bad days yeah almost like you know your parents and how uninteresting you think they their relationship is like imagine that for every relationship and yeah boring see yeah normal information boo they hated each other mccartney had lenin killed

what show is this what show is this yeah yeah that's right there's something they don't want you to know uh sometimes they don't want you to know it because it's not true. So we've repaired the reputation of Penn & Teller. Yeah. There we go. And I just like their work. So it was a treat to see information corrected and get good news. Yeah.

God. The Beatles documentary really did make me want to, like, I feel like I could watch that for every creative partnership. Just like, I want to see them in a room together and maybe some of them would be like icy and not get along well, but yeah, give me the Penn and Teller documentary of like getting to see them. Fucking it's crazy.

Like that Penn was like some young phenom. Cause he's always looked approximately like 48 years old to me. Like ever since he's been famous, like there's just something about him that always appears the same middle aged person that he was like the LeBron James of like comedy magic. He's like coming out fully formed as an 18 year old. Yeah. I heard an interview with him once he started like busking as a teenager on streets

like he's been doing this as young as you can do it wait magic busking so just like oh it's not the right word but yeah i like it i'm into the idea no street magic is the best yeah it's the only real art form left yeah no hyperbole my favorite move by the magicians like i i got this like once when i was like kind of pretty drunk at a bar in new york city and a magician just like approached me and my friends and man you because you're like you know three steps slow at that point and you are just i i was just blown away i was like, I want to like marry this guy. This is the craziest thing I've ever seen. He's really magic.

Like I would for a year after I saw that, I swore up and down. Like I bet a person who's actually magical because. Wow. Yeah. Just like going into bars and doing up close magic, I feel like is probably the easiest thing. Like a magician. I don't know. That takes a lot of time.

Yeah. You have to really have, what do we call it now? You have to really have the riz to like convince someone. You can go ahead and say how you say. All right. Okay.

Yeah. Transparency is key. You have to have the real how you say riz. Alex. Wait, one thing though. One thing though. Do you recall the specific trick

this guy did it was card tricks it was just card tricks card tricks that's what it was like ones yeah it wasn't like

is this your card it was like you know the card is in some girl walking by his back pocket and it has my signature on it

like that sort of thing okay that's impressive it's inside an apple that he just like you know pulled off of a yeah it's inside an apple that he just like you know pulled off of a yeah it's crazy stuff unfold this buckeye yeah exactly yeah yeah what would tell me about a traumatic memory from your childhood buckeyes you say huh well open up this buckeye how did he have

a buckeye and this young man is the person whose bike you threw into the creek. Oh, wow. Yeah. Alex, what is something you think is underrated? So underrated, I want to shout out Cherry Coke Zero. Okay. It's a fantastic. And I thought about it for a weird reason because me and my buddy Katie Golden, we made a weird TV recap podcast recently, and we almost did it about a TV show called The Young Pope,

which is not a very good show. It was from some years ago. Jude Law? Jude Law is The Young Pope. And the one thing I always think about with that show is that his character was obsessed with Cherry Coke Zero. So it's a show where the Pope is going

around the Vatican, and before a meeting he'll be like, where's my Cherry Coke Zero. So it's a show where like the Pope is going around the Vatican and before a meeting, he'll be like, where's my Cherry Coke Zero? At one point, he just says like Cherry Coke Zero and like pounding his fist on the table way. And unfortunately, he is correct. It's a fantastic beverage. I want to have it all the time. I guess we're celebrating Good Friday by talking about the Pope

having Cherry Coke Zero. Oh, yeah, it's Good Friday. Happy Good Friday. The best. Happy Good Friday. The about the Pope Alec Cherry Coke Zero. Oh, yeah. It's Good Friday. Happy Good Friday. The best. Happy Good Friday. The best of Fridays. But it's great. It's a step up from Coke Zero if you've only had that.

What do you think about the, you know, Coke is always experimenting, right? Full disclosure, I'm based in Atlanta, Georgia. And so we hear a lot of weird Coke stuff. We get our finger on the pulse. We get the weird, the wild swings sometimes just will show up in your neighborhood. Like there was, for instance, recently there was Coca-Cola Dream and I tried it, right? And in their defense, they never said whether it was a good dream or not. But that was not the vibe for me, man. And they've always got these new flavors coming out. So Cherry Coke Zero, that's one for you?

Yes. I'm glad you bring up Dream because I was not into that. The Spiced Coke is okay. It's just called Spiced. It's not a Dune thing or whatever. And then at one point, they did like seven fruit flavors of Diet Coke, and I was mostly not into those. Yeah, they were bad. The Cherry Coke Zero, though, is a winner.

And it's pretty available. You don't have to be, I assume you have some kind of Atlanta vault that you open up then and just grab it whenever you want. Bro, I'm so plugged in. You know, we got retinal scans. We've got actually the Coca-Cola Museum, which is heavy propaganda, just to be completely obvious. Oh, yeah. Nice. If you've been there, the culmination of the tour is a Willy Wonka-esque room where you can try, at least at the time I went, because all the kids take a field trip there.

You can try every single flavor of beverage that the coca-cola company makes yeah and it's you know there's some cinematography or a choreography of the the soda i would say because it shoots across the room in a an art what yeah and you're like amazed and you try that sounds so sticky. Yeah, I wouldn't know. Shooting through the air? Shout out to the custodial staff. Yeah, wow. That's got to be rough around like 6.30 p.m. They must be recruiting custodians around the country. Just being like, this guy's got talent.

Looking at closed caption CCTV footage of people wiping up spills. Being like, this guy's like a first round draft pick. We got to get him into the Coke fountain room. And they have PTSD from it. You know, they talk about, they talk about their time.

I've seen some shit, man. I was, you know, cherry Coke zero. I can't look at it. Cherry Coke zero. I've never purchased it outside of a movie

theater but it is my whatever that like universal freestyle coke machine is coke that's great just as a system yeah oh my god yeah i go coke zero and then i put the cherry in and it's bright red for some reason and man i love that there's like a bright red i some reason. And man, I love that. There's like a bright red. I mean, not the whole drink, but there is like a, you know, in the machine, there's like a portion of the stream that is bright red. So there's like some manner of like cherry syrup that's coming in that I think makes it different than the hot popes. The bottled. Cherry Coke Zeros version. The hot pope.

Wasn't that basically the the character was yeah what if what if the pope fucked like it was it was so weird because it went through like you sometimes you watch a show and you become very curious about the creative process in the writer's room you know and i thought maybe these guys just got real deep on cherry coke zebra or maybe they had like they were like here's a checklist or maybe maybe jude law came in and he was like i will do this with the with the following eccentricities right yeah yeah i'm not sure if that's the particular varietal of Coke that that show was written on, but yeah. Right, exactly. It's non-negotiable.

Man, what a blast from the past, man. But I can't. It's unhinged. It is unhinged. It is unhinged. It is freestyling. That's what they did. It is off the dome.

What if there was a Pope who was Jude Law? Drop the beat. Drop the beat now. Yeah. There is a fascination with Catholicism. I think that was made by a great filmmaker, like a European filmmaker. Yeah, an Italian filmmaker.

Yeah, an Italian filmmaker. Everyone was like, this person does not miss. What are they going to make next? HBO was like, blank check. what do you want to make and they were like a show about like what if what if pope was young and kind of hot that's the pitch right that's what they did yeah yeah but like scorsese's making a new series for Fox Nation. We talked about this on yesterday's trending. He's making a new series for the Fox, like the place where shows that were turned down by everybody else go to like have a brief afterlife. The Fox Nation,

right? Like the streaming platform. Scorsese's making a show about the saints for that station. Like, are they hot? Are they hot? Are they hot saints? Probably hotter than you would expect, but unclear. And I just, I don't, yeah, the Catholicism, when people are like,

yeah, you know, it's like Pascal's wager is like, you know, religion can't be all bad. And like, what's the worst that can happen? You know, you just, you go to heaven and it's like pascal's wager is like you know religion can't be all bad and like what what's the worst that can happen you know you just you go to heaven and it's like well no you like waste a lot of good talent and energy on stuff that could have been otherwise but who knows maybe hot pope is uh is cool and i'm missing out sounds like i I am. It's made by an Italian filmmaker and then Jude Law is an English actor, right? But he's also playing an American Pope.

Like a lot of the pitch is like, what if the Pope was hot and really young so he's going to be Pope for a long, long time and American? What if these three crises strike, you know? And he's super New York. He is like cartoonishly New York. Really?

Yeah. Yeah, dude. Hey, I'm the Pope over here. Exactly. And the drink, I think the drink is maybe supposed to be a joke about Americans. About Americans. He doesn't have coffee or tea or whatever. He's looking for morning cherry Coke Zero, right?

Ooh, indicative. I think it's like the joke on Arrested Development where the American-themed restaurant is piles of donuts that no one could ever eat. It's kind of how dumb we are. Morning Cherry Coke Zero is in the Coke vault, but it's spelled M-O-U-R-N-I-N-G. It's supposed to give you a feeling of foreboding

and sadness. Slogan? Pour one out. There we go. Pour one out directly into your mouth. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk overrated.

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The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. by Diet Coke. And we're back, and Alex, we do like to ask our guests, as you may know, what is something you think is overrated? Yeah, and this has especially been in baseball news for the past week or so,

but I think we have overrated the amount of sports gambling advertising that sports can sustain and withhold and support. I think it's just more than it can handle because there's been a concern about either Shohei Ortani or his translator or somebody doing humongous gambling on sports. And then every baseball thing you look at has sports gambling advertising on it so it's sort of a wonky partnership it's a little much did you uh i guess the first question a lot of people listening today will have is uh is this an objective overrated or did you get burned i'm in a lot of debt to a lot of bad people i it's probably not objective because because I get so anxious about gambling anything.

If I gamble, it is so beyond not fun for me. And the one time I sports gambled in Vegas, I bet on the White Sox to win one baseball game. And they won. And I won the bet. And I still didn't have a great time. I was like, oh, that was horrible. That was a horrible, anxious situation. I like it too much.

So I just like don't do it. Because when I win, I do think that I'm invincible for 24 hours. Oh, really? Yeah. I feel like I've had to go to Vegas for work in the past. And, you know, I don't really have whatever thing it is that makes gambling scratch and itch. And I'm pretty risk averse. So as soon as I get any sort of small amount of money, I'm immediately thinking, fuck, I got to get out of town before they find me.

Right. find me, right? I don't understand that mentality, but some part of me on a primal level gets $5 at a blackjack table and then thinks, you know, the law or the mob is coming

for me. I agree. As soon as I've won one time one amount in gambling, I'm like, where is the little desk with the person in a vest? I am going to give them this ticket and fly to a different country now with my ill-gotten gains. But yeah, gambling's fine if you enjoy it and can handle it. Like every sports league is so heavily pushing it that I think it's just making it complicated to prevent players from gambling on their own games, which is their big concern.

Like there's not a big scandal of that yet. And it feels like it Tony on the field in a shirt with a giant sports betting company sponsorship on the front of it. I feel like he should be allowed to gamble if he wears a gambling t-shirt at his job by requirement. I think they should be allowed to gamble if he wears a gambling t-shirt at his job by requirement. I think they should be allowed to gamble on themselves. And as long as we know how much money they have on themselves, that would make it more entertaining. It would also be ruinous. I'm sure it'd be terrible for people.

There's a current sports gambling story. I'm not even going to say which person it is because I don't have confirmation on some of these details, but it is like in the news a little bit past couple of weeks that this person is suspected of gambling on the sports they play. And like a friend of mine, friend of a friend, like knows people and was like, yeah, I think like he supposedly lost millions of dollars betting on Russian ping pong during the pandemic. All right. And so I was. Yeah, because that was the only thing that was like playing during the pandemic. Oh, there was that.

There was Madden Sims, like Madden simulations. And so, yeah, like just look up. There's a whole Reddit thread from during the pandemic about like how to gamble on Russian ping pong. And it's just like, you know, degenerate people with like gambling problems being like, oh, yeah, man, the action's like really good. And like, this is this is the only thing. It's the only game in town essentially yeah so yeah i i agree like i also i don't know it's such a dumb weird world like professional sports already that like i just like how making adding more hypocrisy to the world of professional sports like i mean yeah sure i mean that's i i i know we talked about this in the previous daily zeitgeist but i am kind of

turning a corner then just based on the conversation we're having where you know yeah it'll be ruinous but let the maybe let them let them play, bet on themselves just to see what happens, you know, shake it up. We're already far past the line of ridiculousness. So what's one more? Yeah. This guy's usually their best free throw shooter. However, he has $5 million on this game. So, and his knees are visibly shaking.

Yeah. But part of his hair has fallen off in the fourth quarter so i mean there's this uh i think i predicted this a while back it was like eventually as society evolves the olympics are going to change right we'll have like cybernetic augmentation some some group will say yeah you, let them do all the drugs. Just have them sign a waiver. I mean, Peter Thiel is that group. He's, I think, investing in Olympics

where you're allowed to do the performance-enhancing drugs. That's, you know, I'm not going to lie. I am going to watch it. No, me too. It's a good idea. Just because it came from Peter Thiel doesn't mean it's not going to be super fucking entertaining unfortunately

like yeah and if they're able to gamble on it too like oh wow are they going to let the doctors gamble too then yeah then you might run into some problems they should go all the way and let the guys smoke during the stuff if they're gonna do all that like sure everybody everybody's just blazing a

sick during the batch you know i mean there's no way that yokich doesn't like you know the best player in the nba for non-nba fans is a seven foot tall guy from eastern europe yes yeah and there's just by the looks of him there's no way that he's not having like a cup of black coffee and a cigarette at halftime every once in a while like you just he just has that look about him yeah like the exact diet and habits of an english darts player. But he's the best player they'll be. Yeah. Like that one weird beer mug that they have. Yeah.

Yeah, exactly. All right. Well, we don't really have time to talk about the economy. This is actually, I don't have a story about the economy, guys. This is just a fake gambit where I'm going to pretend like I'm going to talk about the economy. And then it never actually happens. Keep them guessing. Yeah. I have like four pages of just disorganized notes on the economy that doesn't really make sense. So you're not missing out. One day we will get to the story, folks. In the meantime, let's talk about 7-Eleven's hot dog seltzer and Easter, the war on Easter. So briefly, 7-Eleven just announced a new line of flavored sparkling waters, including green apple, sure, lemon, lime, and hot dog, big bite hot dog sparkling water.

According to the press release, the seltzer recreates the taste of biting into the hot dog in beverage form, including the ketchup and mustard. We think this is a bit. Because the company says more info will be released on April 1. So it's not even really a good bit. Yeah. Is it like

a Limp Bizkit partnership or something? That's right. Yeah. That is a real thing. A couple years ago, a brewery marketed a hard seltzer specifically made with leftover water from 52 pounds of boiled frankfurters.

So the hot dog water is an ingredient that has been used in the past to, I don't used in the past to, I don't know how the Awesome Sauce Hard Seltzer Bun Length did when they released it, but that was the name of that product. Why is it Bun Length? I think because the can is a tall boy,

and so they're like, it's about the length of a foot-long hot dog bun length. Okay, okay. So they've thought through the world building here. Yeah. I like a product name where they know it's a gag, so they just make the name too long as a way of expressing that. What are more hot dog-related words? Bun length, charred, watered.

Okay, all right. You get it, right? You get it. I will say that I could legitimately, maybe not in American 7-Elevens, but like in Japan where they're everywhere and they're very different, I could see something like this being a thing.

I just don't know if it would be temporary. I mean, what if we have to ask ourselves the other part? Jack, Alex, what if this starts as a bit, but it finds an audience and it actually, what if it tastes amazing and now we're the jerks about it? You know, I don't think that's going to happen, but I've not come down one way or another on this, by the way. I'm just saying, I think it is a joke based on like some of the copy in the press release. Gone are the days of alternating bites of a hot dog with sips of a beverage. Now those on the go can swap the bun for bubbles.

Like, that's bad. That's bad comedy writing. That's like in the Babylon Bee. It's a red flag, though, right? April 1st? Come on. Yeah, April 1st. Come on. Fuck you guys. Yeah, it's a red flag though right april 1st come on yeah april 1st come on fuck you guys

yeah it's definitely fake but i do ben you're making me realize that i'm so respectful of snacks from certain other countries such as japan like if this had been framed to me as it's a new snack from japan i would be like that's probably so good like it's they're probably so far ahead like there are some countries i trust with a snack, and that's one of them. Yeah. Great. That's right. All right.

Let's take a quick break. And we are going to come back, and we are going to talk about the one story that we can't skip, the war on Easter. There's a war going on outside no man is safe from, to quote Mobb Deep. So we'll take a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.

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The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And you guys might notice I keep leaving the screen and coming back because I'm looking at the nuts that I left out for the crows. I just walked over there, Ben. The crows are crowded around the nuts. Watching the squirrel eat the fucking nuts. Oh, man. The squirrel is just up there eating the nuts like making eye contact with all

of them oh wow yeah oh geez the squirrel is so fat yeah eventually he is going to be the architect of his own destruction yeah because they're smart like they're going to figure something out they'll yeah they'll know they'll just like start spreading rumors in the squirrel community about this squirrel. Character assassination. Yeah, I feel like the crows are too smart to be outwitted by a fat squirrel. We'll see, man. I appreciate so much that we're all going on this journey vicariously with you. It's such a weird journey. I have massive respect that you're treating this with the importance it deserves because I have seen you like leaving a couple of times and I didn't know what was,

I didn't know what was going on, but, uh, man, they're gonna, they're gonna recognize you power, power to the crows. Yes. I mean, mainly I just want them to stop tearing, tearing our backyard up and they have stopped doing that so i think they at some level recognize that my intentions are in the right place and i think we're both on the same side in the war on the squirrel we're just like but i'm not gonna like hurt the squirrel but i am gonna every time it eats the nuts run over and go hey and and then it runs away for like approximately five seconds all right well that's the war in my backyard that's happening but there's a bigger war happening yeah it's happening in the uk mate harry kane massive uh i do have to just say that every time i mention the

uk so the war on easter spare a thought won't't you, for British Christians who love candy, because they are currently enduring a war on Easter. So there's got to be some level of panic injected into every holiday season, we've noticed, in paying attention to the news. One way they can do that, of course war on holiday war on christmas once they started getting made made fun of for talking about the war on christmas and people pointed out that that wasn't a real thing they went with we're actually going to run out of christmas trees this year and candy canes are there's a uh terrifying candy cane shortage that like, like invariably when you look into it is completely made up. It's like, well, four years ago, somebody who does like who works in peppermint extract said that he thought it was a possibility that this year might have a shortage of candy cans. But like they just they're desperate for a controversy around a holiday

how much of that do you think is taken in good faith by like audience i because i've always assumed especially of late that most of the people propagating those kind of cultural war stories i've always kind of assumed they were cynically searching for that controversy or manufacturing it if they couldn't find it but do you think a lot of people you know hear this maybe on a fox news or something of that ilk and then immediately panic and like oh fuck we got to go get the tree now or we have to go get these candy canes yeah or probably they just go fucking Biden, you know, under their breath and it just like adds to the the tension that they carry around in their shoulders, like makes the heart attack that's coming like seven days sooner than it was previously scheduled or something. I don't I don't know. You know, it's just a general way to like ramp up the kinetic energy that's out there. You know? Yeah.

Yeah. Conservatism is just riffing most of the time, you know? And so like, if a holiday swings through on the calendar. Yeah. Yeah. They're like flipping through and they're like, all right, Arbor Day this time. No, that's a little too green, maybe. Yeah.

Anything religious. this time no that's a little too green maybe yeah yeah uh anything religious and jack from in this story i learned a phrase i had never heard before gesture eggs yes so here's where i'm going to be both sides on this one okay all right this is a made-up controversy the like it's one store in lincolnshire and as we know lincoln I mean, we can't be, who knows what goes on in Lincolnshire, am I right? It's the Chinatown of the UK. Yeah. It's a single Cadbury outlet store that made headlines for selling gesture eggs, Easter eggs rebranded for people who, you know, clearly hate Jesus with a fiery fiery passion i will say gesture eggs sucks that name when that rebranding is fucking terrible like it's yeah the it's vague to the point of

meaninglessness it does it almost feels like the people who want this to be a controversy came up with the name. It's like chat GPT wrote it. Right. But like gesture eggs, like is like, what, why would that be like kindness eggs or, you know, like what, you know, spring eggs, like any of these things, gesture eggs is just like such a vague word that makes it seem like you really are trying not to say anything because you're like so afraid of saying anything and like offending anyone it's just i don't know unless there's like a second meaning behind it it's just is there a pun that we're not getting or something i like because there are so many gestures. Easter gesture. Do those sound the same in my flawless British

accent? Who knows? I don't know. I think you're secretly British. I'm figuring this out. Also, just to be clear, I'm surrounded by Europeans. The Euro invasion. This is an American intervention on you, Alex. We need you to be more European. So I want to be clear, though, when I said Lincolnshire is like the Chinatown of the United Kingdom, I'm referring to the film Chinatown. Yes, we got that. I just want to get in front of that one. But also... Right. Forget it, Harry Kane. It's Lincolnshire. That would be the full-time rights.

Exactly. There it is. Thank you. And plus, you're able to be a little bit racist in France, right? So, like, I get where you're coming from. Like, a 1.3 on a 1 to 10 scale. Oh, they're cool with that over there, right? Yeah, sure. Let's just take shots at the nation of France. Yes.

Absolutely. So, why not just chocolate egg? Why not just candy France. Yeah. Yes, absolutely. So why not just chocolate egg? Why not just candy egg? Yeah. Because I think maybe they're geniuses and knew that this was going to happen. You know? Like, it feels like... It's also a single...

Like, all they have is, like, a label on a cooler that is holding these things. And it just says gesture eggs. So, you know, the people who write the signs at grocery stores are not always like the greatest wordsmiths working in the particular language that you're talking about. I mean, not everyone could go to Harvard, right? But there's also, I think, a fair point we should make without being both sidesy. I think there's some important context, you guys, which is traditionally the United Kingdom is terrible at naming food, right? We got barley water. We got, you know, spotted dick.

That makes no sense. I mean, I'm a fan of both of those, but go on. Barley water tells you exactly what it is. Spotted dick doesn't tell you what it is, but intriguing is spotted dick doesn't tell you what it is but intriguingly it doesn't tell you what it is yeah well like in you know in the pictures that you look at about this gesture egg story notice that directly to the right of the gesture eggs gesture eggs there's uh another product called dairy milk. Yeah, Cadbury dairy milk chocolate, I think.

But dairy milk, I don't know. Am I being too hard on them? That's somewhat repetitive, right? Yeah, it's like calling it chocolate chocolate. Yeah, it's a little bit weird. Yeah. So there's also, this isn't, you may notice in these headlines

that they're saying that this is, Cadbury is the latest to erase Easter. Well, that's because an English supermarket chain also sparked a backlash for selling hot cross buns with check marks instead of crosses. Call the Pope. Call the young Pope. Get the young Pope on the line. He just starts singing, hot cross buns, hot cross buns. He's playing it on a recorder. That is my only experience with hot cross buns.

I've never really had them at all. They're not really a thing over here unless I've just been closed off. Are you guys familiar? Have you had hot cross buns? I learned it's a food like one year ago. And maybe 20 years after the song. And not just a song on the recorder. Yeah, yeah.

I tried it one time, but never in the U.S. because I was curious. And, you know, it's not like, it's not one of those traditional or regional foods that feels oddly offensive or strange. You know, it's not like sturmstrong or something it's it's a baked good it's pretty decent uh yeah it's just like a sweet roll right yeah yeah and it's a nostalgia thing yeah and also they were offering these in addition to

they were not replacing hot cross buns they were just creating a separate product with a check mark in case, for whatever weird reason, again, probably you hate Jesus, you wanted a delicious pastry that doesn't remind you of the brutal days-long torture of Christians' Messiah. For some reason, you're weird and you don't want that.'s part of the flavor though right like the the suffering is part of the flavor the same way that the uh the effervescence is part of coca-cola that's where the heat comes from yeah that's that's right yes so this is not the first time though cadbury's gotten into trouble they there was a promotion back in 2017 where they sponsored an egg hunt with the National Trust and dropped the word Easter. Just called it the Great British Egg Hunt in order to include people of all faiths.

And then Prime Minister Theresa May said that is tantamount to spitting on the grave of John Cadbury. Whoa. Spitting on the grave of John Cadbury. Whoa. Cut to the Cadbury company quietly withdrawing their press release for the great John Cadbury grave spit scheduled for St. Crispin's Day. Whoops. I like that John Cadbury is the name I would make up if you forced me to say who founded Cadbury. That's cool. Yeah.

Right. Okay. Well, that's also, I mean, this is kind of, you know, signifying nothing, right? Sound and Fury signifying nothing. It does, as you pointed out, it feels severely manufactured. And if that is kind of the open secret that people are increasingly acknowledging, then why not lean into it? Let's get weirder and more specific because they're already running out of things to hang on the hook of culture war, you know, like how many other holiday things are left on

the list that can be part of the next year's culture war? Christmas ornaments? I don't know. Yeah, no, I mean mean they probably want to call them spirit trees instead of christmas trees you know and that's yeah where i draw the line man of principle i love that listing idea too because easter is famous but after christmas and easter there's a real cliff drop off in terms of how familiar people are with Christian various other holidays. They're going to have a hard time getting us mad about Pentecost.

It's going to be tough. I don't know. I don't know. I'm kind of bullish on this now because people, if these stories are successful due to a lack of information on the audience's part, then not knowing the thing that is being quote unquote attacked is not going to stop them from getting fired up, getting that kinetic energy you were talking about, Jack, because they're like, this just in the war on the feast of St. Michaelmas. Then they'll just be like, fuck Joe Biden.

This guy's crazy. Fucking Biden. fuck joe biden this guy's crazy fucking biden i mean to like just thinking from their perspective halloween used to be like christmas eve for all saints day and they totally lost that one so maybe this is like just them being like seeing what's to come, which, to be fair, all these like so there's this quote from a Christian leader who said it seems very odd that someone would want to try and separate Easter from eggs. Once you do that, you lose the meaning of the eggs. What? Which I like eggs have so many meanings but like none these are pagan traditions that you just adopted as part of your holiday to make your holiday

like slightly more fun right like what are you talking about the bible has the book of eggs the gospel of eggs the letters of paul to the who even knows what eggs means now if without the christian context so our writer jm mcnabb shout out to him you know looked it up and said apparently easter eggs originated with anglo-saxon festivals in the spring to celebrate the pagan goddess Eostre, who may be the namesake of Easter. I think we can close the book on that one. It seems like it's pretty probably the person whose name is Eostre. Like, it's the same name. It's probably the namesake of Easter.

But, like, they're like, no, uh-uh. No, you're talking about Jesus. It's Jester. It came from Jesus. Maybe we're mispronouncing gesture eggs. Yes, exactly. Maybe it's like Jester eggs. Jesus-ter.

They were trying to make it more Jesus-y. But yeah, back then, eggs were buried and eaten during the festival, which is gross, but believed to be a symbol of fertility and the rebirth of nature after the dead of winter. So I don't know. Also, if you're wondering about hot cross buns, they also started as buns marked with crosses in honor of Eostre, this goddess of fertility. And there were similar practices among the Druids, Phoenicians, Greeks, and Romans in honor of Diana, the goddess of the hunt and the moon.

And the crosses actually had nothing to do with crucifixion, but rather represented the four quarters of the moon. Which I didn't know the moon was structured like an nba basketball game i didn't know it had four quarters yeah yeah at half moon a guy in a gorilla suit dunks a basketball off a trampoline um yeah the way jesus would have wanted i have so much money riding on this cycle of the moon though i'm fucked if this one doesn't come through i bet that it wasn't gonna be full this time around oh man it really fucked me this is brought to you by moonbets.com uh please put it put in the code oh god we haven't do the

oh hot cross put in the code yeah yeah hot Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hot cross, yeah. That's right. But anyways, just all food for thought and annoying things to bring up at Easter as you're celebrating Easter in some very severe Christian tradition or not, if you're just doing an Easter egg hunt. Do you guys do anything for Easter? Is that a... I'm mostly a lapsed catholic my mom's presbyterian so i was in that church too but um we did a lot for it as kids and i have a really fond feeling about easter and i also knew people in our church who would speak negatively about people they called christers which is people who only come on Christmas and Easter and otherwise don't show.

But I really like it as a tentpole, and I still find I forget when it's going to happen every year because it moves. And so it's been nice. I've been really on top of it this year, and it feels good. And I got like one chocolate bunny in the checkout line at the store, and I'll probably watch Arsenal play Manchester city on Sunday. I don't know what else I'm going to do.

I've had a couple of peanut butter chocolate eggs and this year's batch is good. I just had to check on them and it's a good batch of peanut butter. Nice Reese's eggs. It's a good year for him. It's a good year. It's a vintage stock. I like that.

And we're all, we're in the candy, I think because we have that nostalgia again, right? Like you get the chocolate buddy, maybe with the candy eyes. There are some things that are only sold around that time, like the chocolate peanut butter eggs. So I think that's fun. I am not the most clever person to be completely candid. So holidays like Easter have always baffled me because I don't know when they're coming. You know, there's like something in the wind.

You know, I know Easter is coming when I see displays at grocery stores. Yeah, that's about that's that's always like my oh shit moment. And then that's when I know I'm going to go Google what day it is and then I'm going to text religious members of my family so they think I'm still on top of it. You know what I mean? Yeah. There you go.

Hey, guys. You do it at four in the morning. You're still up, but you're just making it seem like you're really observant. Hey, just wanted to be the first one to say happy easter yeah try not to take it too far one time i put go team with an exclamation point and yeah that that didn't work i think i should have done a passage from a religious text well guys i think we have a good title for the episode. Chocolate

War on Easter and the Hot Dog Flavored Water. Holy cow. There we go. Amazing. Well, Alex Schmidt, what a pleasure having you as always. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? It's such a

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The name of the band, verbally, it's Meadows. it's with two m's on the front so m meadows uh but it's it's a two-person meadows yeah like they just had some yummy eddos as i said it feels very easter and candy doesn't it like the bunnies hopping around anyway totally but they yeah it's a wonderful singer and a wonderful multi-instrumentalist in particular, the trumpet and also something called the electric valve instrument that's essentially a robotic trumpet. But yeah, they make amazing music. And the singer has been with the band Dirty Projectors.

The instrumentalist has done session work for like Lorde and Beyonce and all these people. So check them out. Mementos. Really good. Amazing. Ben Bolin, thank you so much for hopping Beyonce and all these people. So check them out. Mammettos, really good. Ben Bolin, thank you so much for hopping in and joining us today. Where can people find you, follow you, and is there a work of media you've been enjoying?

Yes, yeah. I am calling myself on Instagram and a burst of creativity at Ben Bolin, B-O-W-L-I-N. Crazy for this one, Ben. Yeah, I know. I'm real Shyamalan. I'm going to actually take that the next time I make some silly music. I'm going to take a sample of you saying, you're crazy for this one.

I said it so monotonously. Here, use this one. You're crazy for this one, Ben. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll deploy it. Just like Maybach music. Media that I've been really enjoying, you know, as we know, Young Pope changed the game. Things haven't been the same ever since.

But I will say one thing that we were talking about off air that I had just got super into now that trailer for that seinfeld movie i yeah we talked about it on yesterday's trending episode it is such a weird movie it is it looks like it looks like a combination of like pleasantville and the zucker brothers like airplane style movie and a seinfeld bit like it's so strange i don't like i'm really i don't think it's gonna be good but i will not be able to stop myself from watching it yeah sure yeah well we got the sunk cost fallacy with netflix right we already have netflix i already am fucking mine as well. Yeah. I mean, also three body problem for anybody who's a sci-fi fan.

That's actually really impressive to me. Yeah. Did you read the book? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I read the book. I haven't started the show yet.

How are you happy with how the show's kind of delivering? So far. Yeah. And an adaptation, you you know necessarily is going to differ from the source material and they yeah you know it's it's tough because it's hard sci-fi so like yeah with foundation you know asimov often writes often writes about ideas and he sticks characters in there because he realizes you have to have characters yeah and so they're there as set yeah totally but but yeah yeah i'd love to hear other thoughts on it because i i was a fan of those books and

those books have actually been out for a while right yeah yeah the first i only read the first two i couldn't make it through the third one because it's big and uh yeah again yeah they keep referring they'll like cut back to a character and be like and i don't know this fucking guy i forget what was his name is is how they introduce a character no that's not true what's his name the the guy who was doing this thing over in this part of the world anyways uh which of the bodies is he it is about three bodies it's about a threesome yeah it's very blow by blow in depth that's why it's just yeah horny uh that's what we mean by hard sci-fi uh you can find me on twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Some stuff I've been enjoying.

The Gentleman is a show, is one of these streaming shows that... I heard it's good. Yeah. So Guy Ritchie, I haven't enjoyed his films for some time. I haven't really gone out of my way to watch them. But the ones I saw, I was like, this is not really, I don't know, my't know my favorite and then when i watch a streaming show i'm usually like this should have been a movie but for some reason like this is the best thing like guy richie has like this is like his old fun movies again for some reason it's like it's just i i've only watched the first episode i am just preparing myself for on a streaming corner which we're going to be having some point next week.

So be on the lookout for that in one of the trending episodes next week. I believe it'll be Tuesday. But yeah, The Gentleman is a blast. I recommend it. And then I also was enjoying this tweet from LLGabagoolJ, who tweeted, I wish there was no I in this Teams meeting,

which I thought was a funny thing that I'm going to use on one of our iHeart Teams meetings at some point, Ben. What do you think? You think that'll go over well? You're crazy for this one, Jack. Hey, there it is. All right. Well, you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram, we have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.

Super producer Justin Conner. I do like to ask you every once in a while is there a song you'd recommend to people you we could link off to in the footnotes uh yeah this is from a favorite group of the show by the name of hiatus coyote they have a new track that just dropped this week and they're oh yeah they're going on a summer tour across north america soon i believe so i highly suggest seeing them live if you get the chance. The person I went with last time I saw them cried genuine tears of joy. Not kidding. And it was fantastic. So yeah, I highly suggest it. But this is a track called Make Friends.

The vocal performance from Napalm is soulful and satisfying to listen to as always. The bass line is phenomenal. And it's,'s you know just another day yet another banger from hiatus coyote called make friends and you can find that song in the footnotes footnotes that is i believe miles's favorite band so yeah new song from them is big news if you if you enjoy the songs that miles normally recommends go check it out uh the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this

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