The Daily Zeitgeist - Christopher Nolan's The OddyZeit 11/24: Mamdani vs. Trump, MTG Resigns, Trump Crypto, DOGE

Episode Date: November 24, 2025

In this edition of The OddyZeit, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, the baffling Mamdani/Trump meeting, MTG resigning from Congress, Trump's crypto troubles, the disappearance of DOGE and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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In what seems to be, a plot ripped straight out of Breaking Bad. Drugs, alcohol, trafficking of people. There are people out there that absolutely know what happened. Listen to paper ghosts, the Texas teen murders, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Miles, you're not the only one who's wondering. about future uh being korean future is canonically korean amongst my korean friends and that's all that matters that's like how dominican people claim babe ruth right uh so this is bubbling right now um two two months ago

so within the past two months uh this piece of future lore is future actually korean i've come across several posts and comments saying that future is korean but i can't find any reliable source confirming that. Does anyone know where this future is Korean in quotes thing originated from? Was it a meme that spread? Or is there a specific interview or moment that started it? I feel like it was just your innate ability

to tell when someone is half Korean. You said it was such confidence. I was just like, oh, okay, like he's definitely Korean, he's on wax. I know Blasians. I know a blasian face. It takes one to no one. But yeah, it is one of those things. It's like,

I don't know, but... You don't know, but you know, deep in your heart. My Korean friends are excited about it, and that's all I need. And I'm like, yeah, man, if he's Korean to you, then why not? Why not? Although, yes, there is no proof. Right. But it's kind of like when you met my kids for the first time, and you were like, dude,

Jack, these kids are, I don't know how to you're Asian, bro. Do you know this? Which I was, I was shocked to find out, you know? Yeah. It was a little bit awkward. Uh, babe. you come in here I don't know how to bring this up

you know Miles right he's like Asian like a half Asian he's kind of said something crazy right now are the kids Asian I've heard people say that though where they're like mixed race like people like where like a white dad is kind of like

like they're American it's like they're Asian They're caught off guard by it? Yeah, dude. I mean, man, it's just funny to just see how like... Mom, you were right. They're half-ageant. All right, Mom.

Calling from the hospital. Ah, you were right. You were right. I thought they'd be American, Mom. They are American. What does that even mean, huh? Hello, the internet, and welcome to this week trend edition of Derneliesight, hey, guys. an intrigued

Miles Gray My name is Jack O'Brien thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray! Miles Gray, yes, yes, of course it's me. It's me. This is the episode where we tell you

what was trending over the weekend, kind of a big news weekend. A lot of shit going on. If you count Friday, which we do, because we don't record on Friday afternoons. And we also let you get to know us a little bit better

by telling you some stuff that we think is overrated and underrated. I'm tired of these damn guests hog in the spotlight, you know? Yes, telling us what they think is overrated and underrated. Yes. It's our time. Down here, Miles, it's our time. Mm-hmm.

Goonies quote for you. There you go. And that's my underrated. Goonies quote. But let's kick off with them. You should be data if we play Goonies. Oh, dude. Do you be data?

I'm Brandt. Obviously, I'm Brandt. Okay, Miles is Data. I'm actually Vince I'm going to put Vince Vince from entourage into the crew I feel like that's if that's all right If we're playing goodies

But let's kick it off with Something you think's underrated Something I think's underrated Miles what's something you think is underrated Underrated It's just That it's a recession Right now

Whoa whoa whoa Dude I don't know if you saw Nvidia's earnings report last week, but it's still popping out here on Wall Street. I mean, everything indicates that we are

at the very least, we are in bad, we are in a bad economic situation. Yes. Okay, you can look at the jobs numbers that they fucking hide from us. Okay? You can, the data that is available doesn't paint a rosy picture at all.

Affordability is 100% an issue. There are soaring utility disconnections right now due to lack of payment. Why? Because people don't have any... Just anecdotally,

I'm sure everyone knows this, it is so fucking hard to get a job right now. Yeah. I know people who are trying for literal years to try and get a job in their field.

And it's funny too because there are people I know who are like writers. And then they're like, oh, I got to work like this retail thing. They're like, oh, why can you just get this like,

job. It's like, because I don't even have a fucking resume with retail on it because I've been writing for the fucking last 10 years that even when I go for a job like that, they're going to be like, what the fuck? I'm going to ask somebody who knows how to fucking work retail, whatever the specific field is. So there are those things, right me up. And then a little chatter that you can do with a customer because otherwise you're fucked here, buddy. Yeah, yeah. Then I just also look at like the cultural things like recession pop, it's back. Come are y'all. The music we're listening to. A lot of people have talked about, like, the genre of recession

pop that, like, blew up in, like, 08 to, like, 2012 of, like, the Lady Gaga's early Nikki Minaj, LMFAO, fucking early Bruno, like, all that shit that was like, wee. Just hard reset. Dude, taking the Therrigan right to the temple.

Straight to the Tempe, Arizona. And you're going, whee! Like, just get me out of here. It's funny because I remember in 2010, I wrote one of the most profoundly high notes in my cell phone watching a DJ set at the Outside Lans Music Festival. I put EDM equals economic distraction music.

Wow. Because I was like, what the fuck? I just remember having this weird moment. I'm like, there was like, unironically like Toyota ads playing, but then like with this music and everyone, and I'm like, the world's gone fucking, like, where are we? That sounds like one of my high thoughts where everybody's like partying around me And I'm just like, this is a disaster.

That's an Epstein note to self, I wrote. I mean, that's much better. I'd give yourself some credit. Epstein notes were pretty, pretty dumb. Economic distraction music is like that, that's memeable. Because that was like huge, like really the mainstreaming of like massive rave culture, like headlining at festivals where it's like, let's just fucking dance. And I love that shit.

It's not that I'm like talking shit. But again, when you look at like ethnomusicologists and the way they talk about, about this music, it's escapism because of the situations that we're in. Just like business casuals coming back. This is like, I think this is more of a black thing, but like around this time, going to the club, millennials are wearing business casual, like stunning in business casual because the fucking rules at a club be like, no hats, no jerseys, no jeans, no sneakers, we don't serve Hennessy.

It's basically saying like, we don't want black people here. So it was like noted. I will dress like, I'm at a job interview now. how the fuck are you going to keep me out of here now and they're like well fuck following the rules and there's like this whole trend right now that a lot of people are talking about called the quarter zip trend where a lot of like young black kids are saying like I'm giving up the Nike tech suit and I'm now wearing a quarter zip sweater and I'm drinking a macha latte and sort of doing this thing of like right I'm off that now but a lot of it is like sort of like you know very classist and kind of like shitting on like mainstream like just like being like there's the tech suit wears and there's the quarter zip wears and it's like now the people are being like Hold on, we can't just be shitting on ourselves by thinking like just because we're dressing in a quarter zip that everything's going to magically change. All that to say is like there's aesthetics popping up. The culture is there anecdotally, ambiently, it feels like it, but it's, again, I think. The actual economic statistics that they just don't consider the economy is what's happening on Wall Street.

There are also bad jobs numbers. If you look at the specific things that affects people's day-to-day lives. But yeah, they found a way to just completely decouple, like, the Wall Street economy, and then what's happening to everyone else. And there's a 24-hour streaming news network devoted to just the Wall Street economy. And there's not shit. There's not, there's very rarely even news, like, isolated news stories about the other economy that actually affects people. If it is, it's one of those like late stage capitalism horror stories for like, this disabled elementary. school teacher was able to get

the supplies for their school because of like, you know, they pulled a lucky number at a festival and like, you're like, what the fuck? Yeah. Why, like, what, like every detail about this story said, we're failing this teacher, we're failing these students. Everything is

bad, but just because they got this like bit of luck. Anyway, the news doesn't want to say it too because I don't want to freak people out, but guess what? People are already living this shit, whether or not you're describe it that way or not. So it's shout out to the companies propping up the quote unquote economy with AI spending. Yeah, I think that is like the underrated of the year.

Both you did a good job explaining it, but also like it just feels like it's the big underrated story that is pervading everything that's happening in the news right now. It's just like, yeah, yeah. So we're focusing on the people in power. We're focusing on, you know, economic news like that's happening in Wall Street and like at the top level. and then just Matt, like, everybody is just fucking struggling. I think because rhetorically, using the word affordability as a stand-in for fucked economy,

it absolves people of any responsibility. That's right. God, there's just nebulous affordability issue. Yeah. No, it's like, it's a regulatory failure. It's just untethered greed and people being ground down to dust. But yeah, it's affordability issue. I don't know what we're going to do.

and Zeran Mamdani got elected because of sharp elbowed politics and being good at politics and because he smiles a lot. That's the that's the revision of that big story. Exactly. Was obviously driven by the exact thing you're talking about. My underrated miles is how hard it's going to be for Christopher Nolan to adapt the Odyssey. You fool. I so I I went and this is not to say he can't do it I'm not saying that I'm just saying it's a much more interesting challenge than I realized like once I so I thought about it this weekend I'll explain why but right when I went to see one battle after another they showed the teaser for the Odyssey with like Matt Damon float you know passed out on a boat um and like just people being like this guy is fucking awesome he's the coolest nobody

like that could actually exist he's so cool um and people like cheered at the end of that trailer like they like i've not been in a trailer where there was that sort of reaction people are like so fucking psyched for this movie and i was there i was there with them man i took off my shirt and started whipping around my head like a helicopter oh that was you that was me yeah yeah okay i saw that clip yeah yeah um didn't realize how hairy your back was it's bad just but on that one shoulder blade it's just a patch that I yeah I because I shave left-handed so it's a blind spot man it's a blind spot um but the image of the movie I had in my head is something like I don't know like Troy or uh twa as my friend pronounced it or a gladiator

my friend shout out to my friend Ryan Cassidy was always like do you want to see twas uh gladiator you know like one of those but made by nolan so awesome right but my kids so my kids are into greek mythology right now and we're listening to this podcast called greeking out and like we just happened on this story that was like a story of odysseus right fooling a giant cyclops by saying his name is nobody right like he and his crew blind the cyclops by stabbing him in the eye and the cyclops like calls for help from his friend cyclopsies and then then when they ask who blinded you, he says nobody and the other cyclops are like,

I guess nobody blinded him and like, I'll fuck off. It's like just like ancient, like the first word, word trick or word. Right, right, right. And like, I don't,

I don't think that story will be in the Odyssey exactly that same way. But it like made me realize that my image of this movie is very different from the source material. Like this will have to in some scenes, essentially be a monster movie unless he really chooses to go in a different

like I guess there are other directions he'd go like a hyper realistic um you know Robert Eggers or you know like Batman begins with sort of him being like what if Batman took place in the real world and so like but

we haven't seen him do like a genre like this would seem to call for so unless he's like recasting all of the monsters as like real world animals or you know right right people online are speculating like what monster designers he's going with and he said only that the supernatural stuff was real to the characters he's like you know the there were volcanic things and all these things that they thought were caused by the gods so that's kind of could go in either

direction then they just the protagonists just look like idiots because they don't know they're like it was real to them dude this guy just has this guy just has his eye closed and they called him a cyclops like he could go in the you know robert eggers movies like the northman and uh the witch and uh lighthouse i think are the ones where he basically approaches the people of other times as like an alien species where the line between like what the natural world and supernatural sort of breaks down you don't believe and know if what you're seeing is like psychological or really happening, which is all to say, like, that, that's all really interesting. That was just an element that I wasn't taking into account.

I thought it was just going to be like a straight up, like, historical epic type thing. And now, like, kind of more intrigued by the movie, but not in a, like, this is a surefire Nolan in his bag doing Nolan shit way, more of a, like, this is going to have to be the weirdest movie Nolan has ever made, which is interesting, like, it's interesting to see where he goes with that. Could you imagine? Because, you know, because, like, Odysseus is, like, clever, you know? And, like, the Cyclops story is, like, one of those sort of, like, things that really shows that be funny.

He just goes, no man did it. And then when the Cyclops, like, what happened? Who did it? He's like, nobody did this. They just go with, like, the fucking who? Like, it's fucking CSI. Like, yeah. Like, got his ass.

Odysseus moving on. What else did you do, fucker? Cut to Odysseus, like, sailing away on a, on a. Beed both, giving double barrel middle fingers. Fuck you. Yeah, Nolan's like, I'm sorry. I panicked. I don't know how the fuck to play this.

Yeah, fuck. Yeah, that'll be interesting. I mean, he loves realism. So whether it's the like playing and the reality of what is real to these characters versus like what we believe to be real as audience members, like threading that. And it'll be. It'll be super interesting. Like, yeah, you got, there's got to be some monsters in this.

movie. You fucking better be, dude. He's, I mean, he made a movie about dreams and it didn't have any monsters in it. It didn't have any, like, any weird. It just had, like, people in, like, with guns. It was just like, my dreams are a James Bond movie, essentially, which is cool. Like, that movie fucking rips. So I'm just curious, like, what he's going to do with that.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, a train could come out of nowhere downtown LA during rainstorm, kind of like a monster. But it's the Coors Light. train. Saloma. What, Miles, what is something

you think is overrated? Overrated. What did I put here? Oh, dude, my fucking,

my, folks, I come here a humbled man to the court of candy corn for, okay.

Since the beginning of this show. Yeah, you've been a real candy corn hater. I have moved my bowels

directly upon the crown of candy corn. Okay. And I, And I wasn't Odysseus And I've been very, very aggressive

About my hatred of Camel He fucking tastes like shit It's stupid It tastes like dried up icing I went to a neighbor's house yesterday This is what I do know I go to neighbor's houses For pie and coffee

This is how fucking domestic I felt In 1950s It was crazy But one of my neighbors She's from the South And she had a bowl Of candy corn and peanuts out.

And she goes, hey, hey, you should. I'm like, I was like, oh, I kind of went. I was like, oh, candy corn. It's, oh, right, right, right. She's like, yeah, it's a little late, but it's, you know, I think it's like a fall treat. Her Majesty looks at me. She's like, well, try it, try it. And I go, I don't fucking like candy corn.

I was like a fucking baby. Yeah, I was like, I fucking don't like it. Try it. I take a handful of this shit. It's so fucking good. I audibly was like, oh, my God. Like, my brain smiles, okay. Dude, my brain finally connected the dots and having peanuts with it completely opened up candy corn in my brain.

It's like a payday almost. Yeah, like a baby Ruth or something, Aba Zaba town, like where you have that nondescript sort of sweet thing. But with like roasted, salted peanuts, I fucking had tears coming down my face. Like I had finally understood what Christ's love like after being an atheist for so long. Like, I had my moment where I surrendered to the Lord, the Lord of Candycorn. So good. And I was like, what the fuck is? She's like, you've never had this before?

I'm like, no. I always eat it alone. I like Candy corn. I've never had it with peanuts either. These are peanuts out of the shell, salted? Yeah. Just loose peanuts, candy corn in a bowl. Have fucking toss them in, baby, chew them up, masticate, swallow, enjoy, digest, excrete, repeat.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah, no, I'm just taking all those Right, did you write down, excrete, repeat? Yeah. Okay, good. I do, like, it doesn't strike me as something that would be improved by peanuts.

That's so interesting, a Southern delicacy. It's just, I, you know, anyone who's this in the show, I fucking hate, I fucking hated it. And having it with, for just that, it's just weird, just like these, that slight recontextualization. And now I'm a changed man. I'm a changed man. I got vaccinated for the first time after that, too.

I've been lying to this show for a long time. I've been anti-vaxxed this whole time. I'm now pro-bax. If they were right about this, what else could they have been right about? Vaccines? What? Sorry, sorry. I'm going to go right at right.

But yeah, unbelievable. Shout out my neighbor. Shout out just these like these slight moments. And I'm a fool. So my hatred, oh, completely overrated. Yeah. Damn. Because candy corn doesn't, like,

Like, I've never had it. I just liked when I was like a little sugar freak when I was a kid. I liked the big pumpkins mainly because they were just, you know, I liked icing. They're just like big old hunks of icing. Yeah. The only thing I've ever had candy corn incorporated into is like as a decorative topping for cupcakes, which I never really felt was the ideal way to showcase candy corn because it's just like sugar on sugar. Jack, if you don't go to the store and buy some loose on-sale candy corn and peanuts

and give them to your children, I'm going to call CPS on you. Again? Look, I keep trying. This might be the one. They know my name. They're like, what did Jack do this time? And you better off. When you realized they were half Korean, he called CPS.

Jack, do you know? I don't think they're his kids. All right. I'm on it. Also, candy corn, one of the few things that can transcend. that goes from Halloween straight through to Thanksgiving. Yeah.

You know? Like not much else. No. Like, hey. Hey, last between the two. What else? What do you got?

Hey. Yeah. That's about it. Candy corn. Yeah, boom. Both places. What's overrated for you? And gooses and turkeys,

I guess people eat those in Christmas. Sure, sure. Although that's not a Halloween thing. What the fuck am I talking about? Get out your Halloween goose. we do we get out a Halloween goose on every table we're just carving a big turkey as people

come by for trigger treating my overrated speaking of Halloween being over and things lingering I just I overrate the difficulty of like certain tasks like I put off taking

my 12 foot skeleton and 11 foot witch down until this weekend we were on day 23 after Halloween and that she was still there and I was just walking by it and feeling like a tiny bit stressed out every time I did.

I was like, ah, we'll get to it, we'll get to it. To the point that you're breaking it down on a call huffing and puffing last week. Yeah. I remember it was like, what's Jack doing? You're like, yeah, so, sorry guys, I got to take down my 12th's going to right now.

Did I do that on a call? Oh, my gosh. you did that on the editorial that's right um it took me like 15 minutes it was so it was so easy there's like it snaps together fairly easily so uh underrated how difficult it is to uh put up and take down the 12 foot skeleton it's just it's 12 feet so it seems like it's going to be a big deal but i i put it up and took it down and neither time was as hard as i was anticipated um but yeah i don't know i just generally that's how my mind works where i'll just let you let you make it i just generally that's how my mind works where I'll just let something sit and it will for like six months

and then it will like take no time our our brains are the worst fortune tellers future seers of all time because it always goes oh it's going to be so fucked up dude you're not even going to be able to fucking do that shit right and then cut to like there was like I guess I have to fill out all these surveys and paperwork for the like lawsuit I'm involved in with my house burning down. And like, I look at it, I'm like, oh, fuck. You fucking kidding me? My name and date of birth?

I'm going to fucking die if I have to spill this out. It's going to be so fucking boring. It said it was, the thing was like a 2.6 megabyte PDF. I opened it. It was three pages. And I was like, you fucking idiot. You fucking, just fucking, no, for sure. Rather than always doing the thing of catastrophizing before you even do it.

I'm a big catastrophizer. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I catastrophize about blocks and keys. They call me young black Socrates. Exactly. That's a reworked clips. Right.

Yeah, yeah. Let's take a quick break, and we'll come back and talk about Donald Trump and Zaramam Dani meeting over the weekend, The Showdown, and other news that happened this weekend. We'll be right back. It feels like that was their version of candy corn and peanuts. Yeah. Yeah.

Hi, Kyle. Could you draw up a quick document with the basic business plan? Just one page as a Google Doc and send me the link. Thanks. Hey, just finished drawing up that quick one page business plan for you. Here's the link. But there was no link. There was no business plan. It's not his fault. I hadn't programmed Kyle to be able to do that yet. My name is Evan Ratliff. I decided to create Kyle, my AI co-founder, after hearing a lot of Stuff like this from OpenAI CEO Sam Aldman. There's this betting pool for the first year that there's a one-person billion dollar company, which would have been like unimaginable without AI and now will happen. I got to thinking, could I be that one person?

I'd made AI agents before for my award-winning podcast, Shell Game. This season on Shell Game, I'm trying to build a real company with a real product run by fake people. Oh, hey, Evan. Good to have you join us. I found some really interesting data on adoption rates for AI agents and small. to medium businesses. Listen to Shell Game on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Dude, he wrapped his hands in broken glass. It's fucking nuts what he's doing. He's been training with Bolo Young from the martial arts films, the bad guy from Bloodsport for to get fucking ready for this. Yeah, so stupid. He's seen the ponytail that he put on top of it? He whips around. He puts a clipp-in ponytail in the back.

He's like, I'm ready. Bring him in. Bring him in. But yeah, so Fox News was being previewed as the showdown with socialism. And it was like kind of summed up by a, you know, photographs that everybody saw with Mamdani. Not surprisingly smiling. and Donald Trump, looking back at him with the biggest fucking smile on his face.

Dude, it looks like when I like met Jonathan Ki Hui Kwan, aka Data, AKA Short Round, AKA Academy Award winner, like when I was a kid, I looked up to him so much. There's a, I got to find it. I met him and I'm like, wowie. That is the excitement looking up at him. It's so funny. People are like, bro, he doesn't even have pictures with Barron looking like this. no yeah this is the happiest i've ever seen him look it doesn't i don't did he just find out what

socialism means and he's like oh that all sounds pretty reasonable to me actually i mean a lot of people's this point is like trump can't like if he can't say shit about a winner like to the point where like he has to like bow down to winners like it doesn't even matter and in this one he's just like yeah he's great the shit he was saying is unbelievable like how like suddenly he went from like we're going to have to look into this guy he's a low life communist to being like uh we will not be threatening funding at all to new york city um this guy's great and actually trump was like saying i think he's going to actually can surprise a lot of conservatives about what he's going to do liberals already like him and trump said i'm totally

comfortable being in new york if he's the mayor just completely upended all their rhetoric around this shit trump suggested that mom dani is going to be a quote really great great mayor claimed that we agree on a lot more than I would have thought because I don't, I don't read or like do anything, um, and told him to go ahead and call him a fascist in response to a reporter's question, uh, because it's easier. And they gave him like a playful arm pat. It was, hold on. We have this clip. Yeah, this clip is absolutely one. Because again, the media, they were asking all kinds of questions to both of them to be like, you said he was a bitch. And Trump, you say he was a jihadist.

Or like, you know, like, or people in your party believe that. What do you think? He's like, no, he's actually, I fuck with him heavy, actually. It was basically what he was saying. But yeah, this is a really wild one too where they tried to get Mammatni, like, caught up. And you're like, you called this dude accurate. Mm-hmm. Are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist?

I've spoken about. That's okay. You can just say, yeah. Okay. It's easier. It's easier than explaining it. I don't like. I don't mind.

It's okay. I don't mind. Go ahead. Go ahead, honey. It's easier than just explaining. That's like his grand, like talking to your grandchild. It's like, do you think your grandpa's a racist? Like, it's okay, honey.

We love each other. We have our relationship. You can say that. It's easier. I love you. It's okay, baby. Yeah. Every,

every quote was so glowing out of this. It does raise the question because, you know, I feel like since this first administration, we've like people take what he says seriously because he's the president um i really feel like it's it's like his moods are just wild and swing based on like if he's in a good like adderall pocket or not you know what i mean every sundowning yeah and like this was early the sun was out you go get those early and also too he doesn't he has no memory of what he said before about a thing right like whatever it is you're just getting his instant reaction to whatever they're like is being asked of him and in this case he had a good meeting with mom donnie who is like personable he's affable he knows how to talk to people so of course he's gonna like he found a way to describe what his vision was and trump said i think it's great he wants to make it safe i want it to be safe i want it to be affordable i like new york he likes new york that's good

And he was like, he was just like, Mom Dany went in with like a handful of talking points that were just like, hey, we both like New York. And he was just like, wow, that's a good point. And then like Trump posted so, he posted all these pictures of them together. Yeah. Like from his account, he's like, he's in love. Here I am with this cool young guy from New York. Isn't he cool folks? Again, people were like, you don't need.

a post your fucking kids, bro. Meanwhile, Laura Lumer, not quite as fond. The people on the right were like, you know, came in expecting to see like a UFC knockout and instead saw like just a cuddle

fest. Yeah. Laura Lumer said, not condemning Trump, disclaimer. However, I think we can all agree it's a bad look to let a foreign board jihadists who said he wants to implement anti-white policies like taxing white people, more money to stand behind the desk in the Oval Office and repeatedly wrote the phrase, what are we doing? I'm stunned

throughout. I had to drink a bottle of ginger ale today after seeing Mamdani in the Oval Office because it physically nauseates me seeing Islamic jihadists infiltrate our government. Yeah. The Democrats posted on it, despite having passed a House resolution condemning socialism, they were, they were willing to post a meme photo with like Mamdani next to Trump. and as like the strong dog yeah yeah chad and little baby couldn't absolutely couldn't stand up to it i mean yeah i think a lot of people like what's he doing with trump i'm like dude he's working him i don't know i don't know i mean like obviously i think you're there what what he'll be able to achieve versus what he campaigned on

are two different things because he doesn't have absolute power as mayor but right you know it is wild to just he went in there and turned a guy who said we might have to to deport his ass. Yeah. To you get whatever money you need, babe. Call me a fascist, babe. I love it, babe. He's kind of cute.

He's kind of cute, babe. And honestly, I would love to live in Mom Dhani's New York is essentially what he was saying. So it's, yeah, that really fucked up all the people who were, you know, hoping that the Maga Islamophobia would, he would keep that same energy, but I don't think he didn't. He's unreliable, some might say. There were some great images. of Trump dressing

like Zoran after the meeting and like it was like Zeran in a kind of maroon turtleneck with a black blazer and then Trump in like a maroon scarf with a black blazer and people are like damn he's even like trying to copy his swag

but those were fake those were AISLOP Yeah don't worry I think the thing that wasn't AI slop that was the most jarring was just seeing their interaction there And also it's okay it's okay babe you can say what you want underscores to not only like the senility but the cowardice you know Donald Trump he only keeps that same energy for unfortunately women or women of color that's the only

time he's like he he really fucking acts like he's like he's like he's like oh yeah what about that this this guy like this guy calls you a fashion he's that okay babe you can say it's all right I actually think it's cute when he says it oh so you don't have that same energy from the Twitter posts okay okay I actually can't remember it's what energy babe it's always love babe no smoke babe never wanted it he he does speaking of trump and uh twitter posts he is still posting a lot of like alarming shit uh that that suggests that he wants to murder the people who said that i don't want to i just think seditious crimes should be punishable by death that's right and i trust them of that do whatever you want with that

information um yeah i mean again he's still feeling the sting of lawmakers reminding the troops about the constitution uh because i think it those are the moments when he has to be like i'm the bad i'm like no surely not now let me now let me retreat to my the soothing calm waters of a i boomer slot memes uh with me starring donald trump and he's posting shit like he's got like a at this i pick of like him with an american flag cape on with like the New York City skyline but the letters don't make sense it says remember your oath

okay right then there's another one with red lightning like he's a fucking like emperor Palpatine or some Sith lord like red lightning hitting him it says do it cue on his shoulder of his jacket and it says time to obliterate the deep state

yeah and you're like oh y'all that he might self state like he might self-obliterate right The whole Q thing is kind of a weird thing to be invoking the same week that it was revealed that you're all over the Epstein files and all over the Epstein emails. Because they're convinced it's not him. They're like, no, no, no, no, no.

His energy is around it because he's going to upend the pedophile evil cabals that exist among Democrats. Then there's another one with a guy, Fox Mask, it said, nothing can stop what's coming. but it's a guy fox mask like as if he's taking off the guy fox mask but he's wearing a guy fox mask it's guy fox masks all the way underneath it's so stupid because it's AI nonsense you're like what are you saying

that it's still them behind the mask Trump's face underneath but instead it was Guy Fox taking off his guy Fox mask yep reveal a guy fox mask it is me Guy Fox mask so there we are meanwhile none of the targeted

lawmakers are backing down. They're like, he's just trying to intimidate us and, you know, whatever. We're not intimidated because guess what? It's in the fucking constitution. You're supposed to disobey an illegal order. That's like the whole fucking point here. And Republicans, they're split on how to respond. You have people who are like clearly trying to differentiate from MAGA, like the Rand Pauls, who are like, look, I'm just an idiot. I'm not MAGA. He's like, I think it's reckless. Then meanwhile, you have other, I think it was Tom tell us who is saying like you know children are watching and the president should think about the example he sets for the children that are watching like okay nice light attempt at admonishment

and meanwhile every like military expert has basically said like yeah what these lawmakers said is absolutely legal and true you're supposed to disobey in the legal order he was saying children are watching so that's why you got to stop doing war crimes he was trying to be like you're a look that you're a role model he was doing the you're a role model mr president so So maybe you don't call for their heads because little kids, you want to show the little children's of the world that we don't just call for people's heads. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know how that worked. That was effective. Such a weird thing to be like that. That's my line. This looks bad to children. It's just such a, I think it's a way for them to be critical, but in a way that is meaningless to Trump. So, like, they're on record being like, well, Tom Tillis didn't co-sign that. He said the children are watching.

But Donald Trump's like, I don't give a fuck, fuck them kids. Yes, he's a big fuck them kids energy. Yeah. And so are you in that demographic? Is that still a thing where you believe in Santa Claus? Is that still a going concern for you? Are you, what are you, the five to 12 demo? What?

Exactly. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. Hi, Kyle. Could you draw up a quick document with the basic business plan? Just one page as a Google Doc, and send me the link. Thanks. Hey, just finished drawing up that quick one-page business plan for you. Here's the link.

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And we're back. We're back. And I think I saw a headline over the weekend that the crypto market has not been good to the Trump family so far this year. Is that right? They put a lot of. of money and a lot of people like yeah man we're all getting in if trump's getting in but the market is a volatile thing there basically there was a just a huge sell-off that wiped out more than one trillion dollars of value across the digital asset world that meant the poor trump familia they they lost a billion

dollars they used to be worth 7.7 billion and only 6.7 billion dollars oh shit fuck you hate to see that And they said it's mostly because of how much of the, like, crypto that they're holding. Because, again, I think the other part that's really the not surprising aspect of this story is that all the people who bought the Trump shit coin around inauguration weekend when it was like at its peak, they would have lost fucking their entire like investment at this point. Like if they held on to it. You're like, of course, because they're, they're just taking money from you. So yeah, it's not good for anyone. And it's not good for the, for the Trump family. And it's certainly not good if you're holding the Trump shit coin either.

Right. Fuck, man. I'm not going to say which of those two groups I fall into, but I do fall into one of them. And that is bad news for this guy. Bad news for my uncle. Does seem, yeah, it seems somewhat predictable that he was going to do a bad job and his popularity would slightly fall from where it was after the inauguration. Yeah. Yeah.

And also just the whole idea that like as if buying a Trump shit coin was any kind of investment to begin with. Does that suggest that they had a billion dollars tied up in a meme coin like that? No, no. It's probably across other stuff because they bought huge just chunks of Bitcoin. Like just everything. Like they've been getting all kinds of assets and other. He seems like he only has the potential, the capability to like focus on a thing at a time. And so like there was like a week where he was just like all meme coin all the time.

And that was his thing. And now nobody's, like, really talking about it. So he's not even aware of it. Yeah, he's mercurial, you know? And right now he's in his socialism era, I think. He's like, I just talked to Zoran. Oh, my God. We're going to do something.

We're doing something. You think this beard looks cool on me? Beard, sir? Yes. Yes, very cool beard you have. I wonder if he can grow a beard. Probably not, right? I don't know.

He, I, I, uh, I don't even, it is odd. Like, how completely hairless his face is and always has been. Yeah. What's going on there? Yeah. Because I can even get my weird, like pirate cheek hair out a little bit.

I've never seen a single whisker on his face. Yeah. Maybe you got it laser off or maybe, uh, facial, uh, facial alopeche, you know. Beard waxing is what I actually engage in. Doge doesn't exist anymore. This is just like following up on story. from a year ago, Trump's

shit coin and Doge, which came in, was all anybody could talk about for a while as they were dismantling the government. And now it is, as J.M. points out, straight up like the part in the monorail episode where Marge goes to the

neighboring towns who used to have monorails and everyone's just like there ain't no monorail and there never was when there's just like monorail tracks over the but yeah, the Trump officials are now saying that Doge quote doesn't exist

even though it supposedly had eight months still remaining on his contract it was dissolved the whole invading federal agencies and firing thousands of federal workers where they were like trust us there's a method to this we know what we're doing

again what one thing at a time he's able to just like focus on a thing be like we're doing that he blows up whatever that was or that relationship to get the bad press for it and then moves off it and there's just disaster left in his wake.

Yeah, it's wild because they're like, it doesn't exist. It's like the damage that was done by this group of, sorry, yeah, yeah, I should have clarified. Un, like, immeasurable. Yeah. You know, like, all the stories

you read with these people like fucking barricading themselves in these like government offices and keep people from like doing what they were up to and trying to get access to like data. systems that no one does and like yeah just just fuck around in there a little bit for whatever fucking reason you are yeah TBD we still don't even know what like what the way you know what the real ramifications of that are going to be so yeah let me clarify uh doge no longer exists

however our inability to tell when a hurricane is coming that is forever yes that is our promise to you uh the the government no longer in charge of that yeah also nobody else is because everybody it was relying on the government to tell them. I'm sure it was probably something with like, you know, Peter Thiel or someone being like, oh, I'll have all that data on every American. Yeah. I could do something with that.

Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. Let me check that up. But yeah, it's, I don't know, maybe we just get a bunch of spam calls or something. It's already happening. But, yeah, great. It's disbanded. It is no more.

And I think there is a couple people that are still on the, that were part of Doge that have now been moved over to the, I think it's called the, National Design Studio. And that is being, like, the guy who co-founded Airbnb runs it. And basically what they do there is to beautify government websites. Okay. That's good.

Sick job. They've shrunken the scope of their mission a little bit. Yeah. Slightly. Fucking woke. Website redesign. Beautifying a website. That woke shit, dude.

Fine, man. That's what you're up to. All right. MTG finally has quit. will quit oh man couldn't handle it huh it was it was a quick turn

she was like I am here to stand up to this president and like by the end of that sentence she was like and I will be stepping down yeah she was like that seat in Friday when Red got knocked out for you know Debo stealing his bike

and then he said you want some too old man and Marjor Taylor Green said no and fucked off like she'd only been she really starting to puffing her chest up like for 10 days a week yeah and then i mean she was saying she's getting all kinds of death threats and i don't know if like if the narrative is they chased me out so i'm resigning or she actually is just doing it for the pension it could be so many it could be everything it could be both who's to say but she good i mean her pension would go up right like they i think they're just saying that like she

pushed her resignation to a date after which she would qualify for the pension. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like, she's like, well, I need that in order to be, you know, eligible for the pension, for the congressional pension. So now. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of mercurial.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She just went from like hard right Trump champion to, you know, hard right Trump critic. Uh, the AOC was pointing out that like, she's, you know, still votes in line with the most right wing shit possible is not not cool like despite her

saying things about like healthcare and she's she does not vote in line with that stuff she is the only thing has been the Epstein stuff yeah it's just the she's been somewhat consistent on but I think yeah I this feels either

a she got there's too many death threats and she's like I don't want to just deal with being on this side of like Maga I or it's the thing that I think most people who are opportunistic who seek office are doing is like maybe she's now

I don't know if you look at Polly Market she's now shot to third in terms of potential nominees for 2020 for the Republican presidential nomination but that's not based off fucking anything it's just interesting like that because a lot of people are speculated

I'm like oh is she gonna make her run I'm like the fucking attack ads against her they're gonna be like look at this shit she posted on because it's different how she comes off to voters than how Trump comes off to voters. Right. Like,

independents would hear, see Marjorie Taylor Green and be like, I don't fucking know about this. But I don't know. I mean, I think there's a, this is, this seems like a very interesting time for Republicans to be like, maybe we can start doing what Democrats do. And I just kind of keep my head low and be like, I'm, I'm not really this, though. And hopefully that gives me a seat at the table in a couple of years. Right.

She, she has said, I'm not running for president and never said I wanted to and have only laughed about it when anyone would mention it. I've only I've only laughed about it is so aggressive I know are you serious like when they bring it up I just like only laugh about do I have a crush on that person no and in fact like the fact that you brought it up is actually making me laugh right now that's actually making me die that's making me die laughing right now I'm actually laughing so hard

you're talking to an angel you're being haunted by my ghost because what you said killed me I don't like them they should let us right there denials sorry you're talking to a ghost you're talking to a ghost actually right now anyways those are some of the things that are trending on this

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