The Daily Zeitgeist - CilliTrend Murphy 8/10: Short Kings, The Sound Of Freedom, Baggu x Sandy Liang

Episode Date: August 10, 2023

In this edition of CilliTrend Murphy, Jack and super producer Becca discuss surprisingly short male celebrities, "The Sound Of Freedom" vs real human trafficking, the Baggu x Sandy Liang/TikTok drama, and the 20 most controversial baby names of 2023!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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listen to in our own world on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts trust us it's out of this world hello the internet and welcome to this episode of killy trend murphy um it's not sweaty at all uh it is what we're talking about i'm jack and that right there well that is super producer becca ramos have we done that one before who knows it's actually impossible to know yeah silly silly trend murphy silly trend um so killian murphy this photo was being sent around Silly trend Murphy. Silly trend Murphy. So, Killian Murphy. This photo was being sent around in our group chat of him standing next to, a little bit behind, Justin Timberlake. And Amanda Seyfried.

And next to Amanda Seyfried. And looking very tiny. Looking like a very short short man um small there were a couple moments in abenheimer when i was like in that shot he looks a lot smaller than i think they intend him to seem and that so there's this photo of him from the in time premiere suggesting uh that my eyes were not playing tricks on me uh christopher nolan was playing tricks on all of us and using some lord of the rings yeah a few times in his movies so The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing us all that Killian Murphy

is tall and lanky. It would appear that my internal image of Killian Murphy was based on some Lord of the Rings style forced perspective shit.

Have you seen how they made Lord of the Rings? No. The behind the scenes pictures? It would be because they needed people to be all different heights. So they would actually have somebody, they'd shoot someone with a deep angle or deep focus lens.

Lens, yeah. And they'd actually be 20 feet away, but you wouldn't know it. And that's how they were made to look as small as they were supposed to um i don't know how they were doing what they were doing to to me and uh you know everybody who thought of killian murphy as like sort of a tall lanky fellow like lanky would be that was the phrase that or the word that you used when we were yes he looks like okay so i have seen images of gilly murphy forever it feels like because he was in

what peaky blinders and yeah he was in inception and now this and i'm sure other i know horror movies in the past like that one on the plane 28 days later. He's always, to me, felt like Slenderman vibe, like really tall, really lanky. A Slenderman. And seeing this image has tickled me to my core. Of the Dublin Slenderman. Yeah, because he looks so tiny. But also, I know, iconically,

I have a really bad gauge of height because I'm really tiny. I am 5'2", and everyone to me is tall. Oh, interesting. um iconically i have a really bad gauge of height because i'm really tiny i am five two and everyone to me is tall oh interesting i'm like yeah oh everyone's tall like they're definitely six foot and becca's and people are like no becca that person's five seven and i'm like oh they you know six foot to me if i wear heels they're still gonna be taller than me so yeah i don't know this is always fascinating to me and it's not from a uh perspective of any like shaming or anything like that it is purely like a an exercise in movie magic i'm never truly impressed when somebody who i have seen in a hundred different contexts turns out to just not be the shape that I thought they were.

Absolutely. So Kelly Murphy, I think, is maybe the biggest example of this, that my internal sizeometer for how tall he was, was way off. Well, we kind of went down a rabbit hole before we started recording on all these different charts that people had developed of men in Hollywood's height. And I would argue I feel that way about all the men on these charts. Like, it's like I would have never. I mean, it's when you put them all together in a row, you're kind of like, of course, this makes sense to me now.

But when you're in the movies and you're watching them, I would never think these men are this short. I feel like Hollywood always is like, no, everyone's six foot plus. Yeah, yeah. Everyone just is made to look like they are a little bit taller than six foot. Yeah. Yeah.

That's, so Jamie Foxx is like, you know, five foot 10. And this is like listed height, you know? So it's not always going to be the truth. Yeah. But I would have never thought jamie foxx was under six feet tall um antonio banderas is like five nine sylvester stallone famously but that was one that kind of threw me for a loop his list is 510 but he's not 510 like they say george clooney is 510 on this list would I never thunk yeah George Clooney really

reads as like a 6'2 at least yeah um Stallone uh or sorry uh Kevin Hart is and this this one got me because I knew Kevin Hart was short like he makes jokes about it but he's two inches shorter than Joe Pesci like he's very very small. So he's 5'2". He's 5'2". Yeah. Wow. We're the same height. Crazy.

Yeah. And then Danny DeVito is actually 6'6". That is. Believe it or not. Yeah. They've been. No. All right.

Anyways, hit us with your, the ones that surprised you the most. Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about everyone's favorite movie from this summer the sound of freedom the sound of freedom like as i was doing research on the sound of freedom and like how bad it's fucking up people's ability to actually address trafficking like there are these articles that just give it the benefit of the doubt in like such a weird way i guess because they're like well it made money so there must be it must be doing something right but um like there's usa today article where they say like this guy is like credited with saving all these children and then they like later point out that like vice media contradicted that with their reporting.

But it's just anyways, we've mentioned before that human and sex trafficking doesn't look like it does in movies like Taken, for instance. Like it's not it's not just the sound of freedom taken, you know, also portrays a world in which like human trafficking is something that it could happen to any of us you know the wrong midwestern 30 something finds a zip tie on their car door handle and they're like whisked away and they wake up and they're on a yacht where like entertainment executives and barack obama are like bidding on like the right to own them um and the truth is like the exploitation and trafficking that actually happens and that actually like fuels that they're like really troubling stats about like how common it is and still in this world is not fueled by abduction data suggests that just three percent of victims of trafficking are actually the victim of abduction like there's economic ways and like familial

like things that are done to put people in these situations where in order to survive they're like forced to you know basically live in slavery um yeah and so three percent like a tiny tiny portion of it looks like what these people think it all looks like and there's this like weird statistical like wandering thing that is happening where they take these statistics about how common it is that are driven by inequality and racism and like racist immigration policies and they ignore that part and then make it seem like this is a danger to you and your family so i don't know it's crazy but there's an article in vice today that was uh a couple days ago that was like, this is becoming a problem for organizations that actually work you're saying is a lie do your own research i've like seen sound of freedom and i've seen facebook and uh therefore here's what it actually looks like and it's it's becoming like a real issue like the chair at the united nations fund

for victims of human trafficking and contemporary formslavery says the movie does not raise awareness. They say it's not awareness. This movie is full of assumptions and it's a dangerous portrayal of what trafficking is. And so it's it's a mess. Big mess. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk. Tick tock.

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And we're back. And Becca, you are famously on TikTok. Famous. Famously very on TikTok. Not viral, but I'm chronically online. And I wanted to bring attention to the Cindy Liang bagu drop I feel like those who are fashion girlies those who are bagu girlies they were very upset about this drop not the collaboration but the drop I feel like the collaboration had a ton of hype. I personally was very, very excited about it. I did get a bag slay, but it

went so poorly from a marketing standpoint and a logistics standpoint that I felt like it was notable to talk about a little bit. I think as the rise of this hype beast culture has come to this, I feel like capitalist culmination point where I feel like we're having a reckoning with like sustainability and resale culture and the economy because Bagu in and of itself is recognized as this like sustainable brand, right? It's all about reusable bags. Their price points, I would say, are pretty affordable. They do like travel bags. They do carry-ons. They do like packing cubes, all in the name of like sustainability. Like these are things that are supposed to last at a pretty

good price point. They partner with Sandy Ling, who is a very much popular new, you know, I don't want to say new-new, but, you know, luxury designer here in New York who is Asian-American. I feel like she's become kind of beloved and has this cult following. And so her drop sold out within minutes. It malfunctioned in the sense that they sold everything in the presale. So those who didn't get the presale texts didn't even get a chance to buy things in the regular sale. They're having a second drop because they fucked up so bad. It was like a whole thing.

They're having a second drop because they fucked up so bad. It was like a whole thing. And now all the people who got bags in the original drop are reselling them on Depop and other resale sites for like triple, quadruple what these bags are, which I think is such a oxymoron of what the original purpose of the Bagu Sandileang drop was, was to make this expensive make it expensive brand accessible yeah and i mean this is very common sneakers too and yeah it just i do wonder if like sometimes you know we we've talked before about how streaming services like will have things like when a big show is premiering there will be like an outage and then that will become a story i do love his line that happened like they were trying to do the live stream on netflix for the first time it like went so poorly yeah it's an interesting question of like whether it's intentional or whether things are just broken and yeah like it's just nobody on on the infrastructure side is like incentivized to make it work because then it's actually just like a marketing win for them yeah exactly all right uh should we

talk baby names so let's take a look at baby names um this is from nameberry.com which we is one of our leading sources we probably the most linked to uh sites that we have are uh the ap reuters and then nameberry close behind um but these are supposedly uh the 20 most controversial baby names happening right now um and i just want i just want to go through a couple of them because Adonis is one that I don't know it's the name of a character in Creed right? It's the name of the character

in Creed but it feels like a good movie character name. Great name for a god. For a mythological character but man what a lot of pressure to put on a kid yeah i guess because it says the name of a handsome young lover of aphrodite in greek myth the name has become synonymous with masculine beauty and the way this article article kind of

writes it is like they might not live up to that right yeah um they have blair for some reason as being uh controversial but uh dixie also caught my caught my eye um that makes sense to me a little as a name or as a no no as the on the controversial name yes yeah i just yeah please don't name your child yeah would be my uh advice um it's like you know scarlet savannah clementine like you hear those types of names and you're like okay i think i see what you're doing there um but dixie's like a whole and again it's it's like you know adonis being just the most on the nose squarely like whoa we're really going for it also

like Gunner is one that I have actually heard in the wild um yikes like it seems like again a step up like it's in the same family as Wilder or Maverick uh which are names that I've heard.

But Gunner feels like it's like, whoa, you have gun right there in the name. Colt, I've heard. I've heard Colt. Yeah. And like that, I think it's accomplishing the same thing without putting Gunner there in the name.

And then finally just shout out to uh anyone who named their child harvey uh because they're pointing out that prior to 2017 it was like part of the you know old-timey name revival like that went along with you know old names like howard and you know stuff like that but 2017 uh not a good not a good year for people who know between weinstein and hurricane hurricane harvey but yeah i i don't know and it's also not one that like has a easy nickname. No. Harv. Harv. RV. Come here, Harv.

Just go RV on them. Anyways, those are some of the things that are trending on this Thursday, August 10th. We are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show with Miles and with one Chris Crofton. So hold on to your butts for that, folks. Becca, where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You can find me and follow me at Bex, B-E-C-C-S, Ramos on all platforms.

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Keep sharing it in the school year is coming up soon. So yeah, shout out to all the teachers. Yeah. And shout out to my mom for retiring this year. Hey. Congrats to her. Amazing. All right.

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