The Daily Zeitgeist - Citizenship Game Show? Big Bad Bill Incoming 05.20.25

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

In episode 1866, Miles and guest co-host Pallavi Gunalan are joined by comedian, writer, journalist, activist, and host of The Bitchuation Room, Francesca Fiorentini, to discuss… Trump’s ...Tax Bill, Trump Demands Major Investigation Into Springsteen, Beyonce and Oprah For Their Work For Harris? Dystopia Corner - The ICE Reality Show Is a Real Thing? And more! Trump’s Tax Bill How Trump's 'bribe now, pain later' budget scheme hit a surprise roadblock Trump Demands Major Investigation Into Springsteen, Beyonce and Oprah For Their Work For Harris? Dystopia Corner - The ICE Reality Show Is a Real Thing? ICE Barbie Kristi Noem is backing insane reality TV show where immigrants compete for fast-tracked citizenship LISTEN: I Dreamed I Dream by Sonic YouthSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello? Hello? FBI agents in Miles' phone. Can you please? Oh, yeah, yeah. That's my mother's in the FBI. Oh, yeah. No, no. Shit, I guess I already blew up the spot. Yeah. Yeah, she's a fed. But a lot of things are making sense right now. I mean, keep your enemies closer, I guess. Yeah. Keep your mother close. Raised by a fed vibes but. A lot of things are making sense right now. I mean, keep your enemies closer, I guess. Yeah, you're getting raised by a fed vibes. You know like how there's like homeschool vibes. Yo, you got to raise by a fed vibe. Baby narc do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Co-intell pro do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. Baby narc. Baby narc has got to be a show. Make it happen. What is it? Just a show where you talk to the kids of like feds? No, it's just like a kid show on how to actually Narc on your parents. Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Mommy said free Palestine. Yeah. Mommy. Why am I Elmo all of a sudden? I don't know. Elmo's under called feds. Mommy's trying to undermine the American project. Elmo knows where you live.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Yeah, Elmo, it's like Sesame Street cuts a deal to come back under the Trump administration. But just as teaching kids how to narc. Big Bird rules with an iron fist. They're like, Elmo got in trouble for a crypto rug pull and Elmo needed a party and so Elmo, Elmo knows that's state propaganda. Oscar is like the only resistance
Starting point is 00:01:32 and he's living in literal trash. He's one of the poor. He was like motherfucker, fuck outta here. I already know what the world is. He's got a whole underground, like that trash can't, we don't know where it leads. It's a whole underground situation. He's building tunnels. Fucking like that trash can we don't know where it leads He's that or he's Mario Brothers and goes and then goes down
Starting point is 00:01:58 To his subterranean world He's training with the Ninja Turtles. Oh my god Splinter hell yeah, what all them fake ass Japanese names. I love it. Oroku Saki. Michelangelo? Yeah. What? Leonardo?
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Starting point is 00:05:20 That's fantastic. My name is Miles Gray. We're just getting right into this. My name is Miles Gray. We're just getting right into this. My name's Miles Gray, aka. Bring more whites to the country! Make a racist resort! Immigration, no waiting!
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Starting point is 00:05:58 She's checked in. And by that, I mean today's guest co-host. She's a fantastic writer, comedian, activist, teacher, scientist, learned person. Okay? Also, the architect of my downfall by starting the Eat'n'Fires. Please welcome to the microphone, the one and only Polly P. Goodall! Okay, activist sounds way too active for me. I don't really move that much. Okay. You were like fine with starting the eating fire. You're like, I definitely did that.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I did that to get my spot. That was for fun. That was a personal beef between me and Miles. A lot of collateral damage. I was just like in a lighter near his window. Yeah, oh you ever say last week, just putting on the doorknob. I was like, I don't know how to set a fire.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I got too stick. So I'm like, aren't you like really good at science? And this is how you're gonna to do a fire like thermodynamics. I'm a slow pyro. Slow. Yo, slow pyro. Slow pyro. That's a good name. Sounds like a funnier die sketch about a bad arsonist or something. Yeah. That's just my life miles. Okay. Well, slow pyro is definitely a Coachella band. I like it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Check them out at Despacito, okay?
Starting point is 00:07:05 All right, well anyway, there you are, Pauly B. Thank you for joining me today. Who is that fantastic voice you heard? Oh, well that's none other than another brilliant comedian, journalist, activist, parent, partner, fucking source of my great tickets, all kinds of things. Wife and mother. Wife, mother, I mean, God.
Starting point is 00:07:28 American flag emoji. American flag emoji, American flag emoji, fist bump emoji. You know her from the Bituation Room, which has a live show here in Los Angeles, May 30th at the Elysian. Ooh. Be there, because you may see some familiar faces.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Please welcome Francesca of your TV. I'm here with my cunty Bob. Oh, we love a cunt. I'm just a simple cunty Bob. I love a cunt. I love a cunt. I love a cunt. Love a cunty Bob.
Starting point is 00:08:03 We're changing country to just country. Love a cunt. Come out and see it live at the Elysian Guys May 30th. It's gonna be super good. Council member Eunice Hernandez is gonna be on there. I love her. Eunice is. She's the best.
Starting point is 00:08:17 She's the best. But also Rachel Reyes of the LA Podcast. If you guys need like a good, if you're in LA and you need a good local podcast, LA Podcast is excellent. Yeah. Rachel's a long time activist. Also someone from the Rent Brigade, which has been like blowing the whistle basically
Starting point is 00:08:31 on all the price gouging that's happened after the fires. Oh yeah. If you know about them and they've been soliciting. It's fucked up. You know, whatever, whistleblowers and Intel and they've been calling up realtors and chewing them out. They're great. So it's going to be a good night. Yeah. Fantastic. Man, the Elysian. I haven't been there yet. I really want to.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Oh, it's so fun. Yeah, it's lovely. What part of Memorial Day weekend is this? Is it? Where does the 30th land? Oh, it's all said and done done Memorial Day weekend. It's over. It's the next weekend. Oh, it's the next. Oh, right. Because it doesn't, we don't have a last Monday. And right.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Makes sense. Makes sense. Well, thank you both for joining me, joining us, the Zeit Gang, and making this more of a palatable show. Oh, Memorial Day is the 23rd. Thank you, Victor, for that reminder. Okay? Memorialize it. Don't remember the 20rd. Thank you, Victor, for that reminder, okay?
Starting point is 00:09:25 Memorialize it. Okay, but don't remember the 20th, remember the 30th, because that's when the show is. That's right, that's right, exactly. Who cares about Memorial Day? Nobody gives a fuck about Memorial Day. Wait, so then, wait, so then it's a Monday? Shut up, Miles!
Starting point is 00:09:37 No. God damn it. No, it's not, because it's the 26th. Okay, Victor, you've- No, the 26th is Memorial Day. It's Memorial Day. Yeah, but you just hit 26 is more is more of the Bro you know the daily zeitgeist where we know what the days are Yeah, welcome to the show hide hide miles Biden's cognitive decline
Starting point is 00:10:04 The original sin yeah, it wasn't Adam and Eve with the fucking apple. No, no, no, it wasn't sexy leaves. I wonder, do you think Christians feel like they would feel some kind of way about them saying the original sin was hiding Joe Biden's cognitive decline and not the original sin of the temptation in regard to being- Yeah, I think that's the first thing. I mean, we're very close for someone to someone making that exact point.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here we are, May 20th. We are gonna get to know you a little bit better. Better? Better, Francesca. No, better, we'll go with better. We're gonna get to know you even better, Francesca. What are we gonna talk about today?
Starting point is 00:10:36 We're gonna check in on Trump's big, beautiful bill. Whatever, we'll talk about how just, it's just riddled with fuckery as it were. We'll also talk about Trump. Really he got chipped by Bruce Springsteen's talking a bunch of shit on stage in the UK that now he is calling for an investigation into the boss and Beyonce and Oprah among others for endorsing the losing candidate. I don't know sure Fucking sick ass blood rotation. Yeah Wait, Bruce Springsteen Beyonce
Starting point is 00:11:09 Yeah, who do you think? Yeah, I mean Beyonce talks about smoking weed, but she doesn't really strike me as a stoner to she's to OCD Yeah, yeah, he does not Oprah does a lot of the cowboy Carter tour, there was so much smoking imagery coming from her. I was like, what the fuck? I was really like, cigarettes are back. And Beyonce is saying cigarettes are back. Oh, they definitely are.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Remember when she wanted people to stop eating meat? And now she's like, never mind cigarettes. Yeah, never mind. Let's just have some cognac. So we'll talk about that. And then we are just dystopia becoming realer by the day and more vivid and stupider. The ice reality show that Kristi Noem is teaming up with the producer of Duck Dynasty for that.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Baby, that's dude, dude, dude. We will talk about because somehow the Daily Mail is the outlet that got their hands on the fucking pitch deck for this legitimate TV production They're trying to like get made green looking not it's I Can't even okay. I'll tease the story by saying they're coming up with a reality show where contestants vie for American citizenship as the grand prize there will be only one winner and then it will turn into the running man
Starting point is 00:12:24 I have a very controversial take. You gotta wait for it. Oh. And it's coming up in the third act. Don't skip, don't skip, don't skip. Unless I run my mouth so much in the act one and two, we don't even get to it. Or you figure it out.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Who knows? Either way, here we are. Surprise, you're on the ice reality show. You get bagged and take out. Actually, yeah. Yeah, baby, narc do do do do do do. Francesca, what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Starting point is 00:12:52 So I was looking at my DuckDuckGo, which is what I used to search things, obviously. Shout out to you, G. Because maximum privacy, maximum quackery. And I found this search history that was like from a few days ago that was just baby airplanes overhead. I was like, what the fuck was I looking at? Can you think about like when I say those three words, what was I trying to look up? Baby airplanes overhead.
Starting point is 00:13:20 One of those things for a crib? Like a mobile? Like a crib. Like, no, no. Oh, like a mobile? Like a mobile. A mobile. Baby. Okay. You see baby airplanes overhead. So it's not a, it's not a mobile airplane mobile.
Starting point is 00:13:34 It's that you were looking for maybe some kind of baby accessory that could go in the overhead. Yes. Like a stroller. I was image searching because back in like the sixties, right, you know, airline travel was a lot calmer. It was a lot chiller. Like now, you know, climate change has ruined all the jet streams and you know, everything's crazy turbulence, nothing of the FAA. But back in the day, they would put babies in the
Starting point is 00:13:59 overhead compartment like a little sling and they could just sleep there. And look, I don't, of course it wasn't safe. Nothing was safe. There weren't even car seats back then, but like, it's just so, I love the image of that and I was sending it to a mom friend of mine, like, you know, what happened America used to be great. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, exactly. We're chicken shit now.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Have you, you've seen them, right? They're just like, like little baby in, you can't, I don't know. Oh my God. It's so crazy. Shout out to, man, little baby in you can't, I don't know. Oh my God. So crazy. Shout out to man. Shout out to the sixties, man. Like, yeah, we're smoking a cigarette. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Beyonce's bringing it back. Maybe she'll bring that back too. Yeah. Beyonce bring back babies in the overhead. That's so good. In the fifties. Oh, look at that baby. See, there's, there's plenty of space.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Now you're just figuring out how to squeeze in a coach. God damn it. When America used to be so we had Jim Crow laws and babies could be in the overhead. Exactly. Take us back, Beyonce. So funny. Baby overhead. Baby overhead. Shout out overhead projectors, too. Did you guys have Francesca? I know you're requisite lead elder enough to remember overhead projectors for school. Oh, they still do those. Oh, yeah. Probably you had them, too. Oh, hell yeah. OK. Yeah, because you don't have to get up. You're like, yeah, let me just write on this light box.
Starting point is 00:15:06 But I mean, or you just using your computer these days. I love just watching the teachers hand like erase everything they just wrote. If they were a lefty, they'd be like, oh, yeah, this is much. Yeah, yeah. Or they had to do that like crazy. Yeah. And then they'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm going to do that. And then they'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm going to do that. And then they'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm going to do that.
Starting point is 00:15:24 And then they'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm If they were a lefty, they'd be like, hey! Oh yeah, just smudge. Yeah, yeah. Or they had to do that like crazy hook hand to be like, I will not smear the ink that I'm writing. It's a skill. I know, poor lefties, man. Poor lefties indeed. You can't win an election. Francesca. In so many ways.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Yeah. Can't win an election. Can barely get people to figure out what we're trying to say. Little hook hands. What's something you think is underrated, Francesca? Can't win an election, can barely get people to figure out what we're trying to say. What's something you think is underrated, Francesca? Underrated. I don't know if it's underrated yet. Okay. I like this. So this is maybe jumping the gun, but I just want to name.
Starting point is 00:15:56 I'm a really big Caliuchis fan. Oh, yeah. She is Colombian, American singer. She's just got this gorgeous, amazing voice. I love a good female vocalist and I was about to sleep on her new album because I was like she's a mom I literally judged as a mother Another mother going like this one's probably not that good because I didn't feel very creative in the first year of my kid's life I felt like I didn't write Don't put that on Callie, right? But then, so then I was like, that's probably nothing good.
Starting point is 00:16:26 I fucking listened to it and it just like blew my mind. It's beautiful. And I realized actually, if you're a songwriter and you're like singing lullabies to a baby, it's nothing but creativity. Because all you do is like make up songs for a kid. And it just, it's just, it's equal parts Bond, Amy Winehouse, Elvis Presley, but with Kali Uchis and it's so beautiful and like I don't know ethereal I don't know what the word is, but I'm like, I'm I love this new album So I'm blaming myself for for preemptively under rating this new album
Starting point is 00:17:00 Okay, her album is great, but the baby's not so good. Okay The album drop was great. I thought you're gonna do like the health of the child. I was like, what? No. Yeah. The baby's mid not her best work. You know, I don't know. I'm sure it's adorable. She is she showing face or no she's doing the right thing. She's doing like't know. I'm sure it's adorable. How she is she showing face or no, she's doing the right thing. I think she's doing like covering face. I decided to get rid of that recently because I was like, you know, I had this moment. I was like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:17:31 My fucking kid is so cute right now. I don't think she's ever she might not even be cuter. You know, like, hey, she's a cutie. She's hedging against ugliness. But also, Matt's been posting bits with the baby since like last year. 100% We know what the baby since like last year. 100 Brits, Muriel Pallavi, you're totally right. You're not wrong, but I would always cover it. And I was like, you know what, why?
Starting point is 00:17:52 She's adorable here. Like, you can't take all of her facial features. I wish I was a guy child, but this motherfucker is so litigious, man. He will fucking, his lawyer will get my, just get all of it. You're a dare baby. Yeah, he's a fucking diva, man. He was fucking, his lawyer will get my, just get all the... You're a dare made? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:06 He's a fucking diva, man. What can I do? Yeah. Anyway, Francesca, what's something you think is underrated? Overrated. Oh, overrated. Yep, yep, yep. That's right.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Callie Uch is preemptively underrated. NYU University, New York University is overrated. As someone who- Not the Tisch School, certainly. Is that exempt? As someone who went to NYU as someone who graduated from Gallatin, the school that Logan Rosso graduated from, the valedictorian who was then since denied his diploma for speaking about Gaza during his speech. Let me just say, I knew it at the time.
Starting point is 00:18:46 It is insanely overpriced. It is a bullshit school. It is like, there is no campus. You're simply paying for the privilege of living in lower Manhattan. Right. Timothy Chalamet gave most of them chlamydia. That's a rumor, but I like spreading it.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Dude, 100%. I fully believe that. But you can hang out in Washington Square Park. Dude, 100%. I fully believe that. But you can hang out in Washington Square Park. No, you know, I got my ass grabbed in Washington Square Park. Like, this is what you should know. A 17, 18-year-old should not be going to NYU. And the kids are so dumb. And I was a create, like I was a rabid anti-war activist.
Starting point is 00:19:19 9-11 happened my first year. Got involved in the anti-Iraq war movement, anti-Afghanistan war movement. Like, I was skipping classes left and right. My own NYU was a real hotbed. We were doing sit-ins and die-ins and teach-ins. It sounds like an incubator for extremism if I'm working in the White House. It was a total incubator for extremism.
Starting point is 00:19:41 But as a school, it is so fucking overrated. Do not pay for that school. Do not send your kid to that school. There is no campus. Like the part of the thing about going to school is like you like sit on a grassy lawn. Right. And read a book. You can't do that anywhere in New York at NYU.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And I just I love. Sounds like you're looking for a grassy knoll, Francesca. Yes, the grassy knoll. And get radicalized. You've been yearning grassy knoll, Francesca. Yes, the grassy knoll and get it to get radicalized. You've been yearning for a knoll to perch upon? Pretty much. Okay, okay. I mean, ever since. But yeah, the actor, Zach Woods,
Starting point is 00:20:13 has an incredible, hilarious take down of NYU and what they just did. And just talking about it being like an overrated cliche of a fucking school. It's underrated how many comedians come out of fucking NYU. I think a lot of people don't realize. There's just like a whole- How bad the school is.
Starting point is 00:20:31 It's like a whole Tisch School mafia, like in Hollywood. So many people coming out of Tisch. I'm like, how do you know that? They knew they were going to be a mafia. But Aziz and Zari went to Stern Business School. Around the same time I went to Stern. Wow. And all I did when I was-
Starting point is 00:20:48 Whoa, no way. Damn dude. That's crazy. And now you're only podcasting for? No, I was just gonna say that it's funny because all I did as an undergrad at NYU was get into arguments with Stern Business School dipshits about like free market capitalism.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Sure, sure. And like in my colonialism studies classes and all these, you know, assholes. Right, right, right. I'm assuming Aziz was just more of a chill, like kept his head down, kind of Stern Business School, but very funny that he became a comic. Hey, man, just doing sick bits, just like raising his voice and doing inflections and random moments. Oh, fucking yeah. First of all, that's 75% of a comedian's job.
Starting point is 00:21:28 That is true. 25% is posting clips. Who was it someone, there was someone who like roasted Rogan to their face about that. It's like, if you're humping the air, like you're not a, like you've lost. You've lost it all.
Starting point is 00:21:41 If you're humping stool. Wait, is that Jesselnik? Jesselnik? No, it was like an older comedian. It was like an OG and it was like kind of. Feels like Bill Burr or something. I forget who it was, but like he had Rogan on as a guest or he was as a guest and just said it to Joe Rogan's face.
Starting point is 00:21:54 I'm like, that's his whole schnick is humping a stool. And then it was just kind of like, yeah, yeah, I get that. Sure. Like sometimes it helps. I haven't seen a single Rogan bit, but did he, is he a stool humper? He's a stool humper. I feel like I saw his special,
Starting point is 00:22:07 but I also feel like I haven't seen a single Rogan bit. Yeah. I've only seen it from seeing like cut downs of other, like luckily on YouTube, there's a whole ecosystem where people were like, look, we get it. You know, Joe Rogan sucks. Here's, let me do a fucking mix tape of how bad his last special was.
Starting point is 00:22:24 And you're like, oh. It's, let me do a fucking mix tape of how bad his last special was. And you're like, reverse fan cam. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Jeff Garland said that is what Jeff Garland. Yep. That's who it was. It was Jeff Garland. It's just like to his face. Anyway, let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we'll talk Trump's big, beautiful bill. That's an ugly piece of fucking shit right after this. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation. Aubrey O'Day is sitting next to us here. You are, as we sit here, right up the street from where
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Starting point is 00:26:00 Hey, I'm Dr. Maya Shankar. I host a podcast called A Slight Change of Plans. I started this show because unexpected change comes for all of us, and there's no set playbook for how to deal with it. I have all of this psychological baggage that I'm carrying with me, and the last thing I want to do is to pass that on to my daughter. So I have to figure this out. This puzzle of my trauma, I have to figure it out, and I have to figure this out. This is this puzzle of my trauma. I have to figure it out and I have to figure it out now. Join me this season
Starting point is 00:26:28 when I talk to Amanda Knox about her choice to reconnect with a prosecutor who helped put her behind bars. This is not about him. This is about me and what I am capable of giving. And I know that I am capable of being kind to this man. And by God, I am going to do it and no one can stop me. Listen to a slight change of plans on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Trump's tax bill was finally, it got out of committee over the weekend. It died on Friday and I was like, Oh, look at this. Chip Roy found a backbone.
Starting point is 00:27:17 I mean, he's always been a pretty big deficit hawk, but he came along with, I think six other Republicans tanked it on Friday only for them to do whatever they had to do because, you know, Jesus jerk-off eyes speaker of the house, Mike Johnson was like, what do you guys need for you guys to at least let this thing get out of committee? Apparently they made those concessions. I was like, that sounds like a MyPillow guy. No, that was very Lindell. Well, yeah, Mike Johnson's much more up here.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Well, no, I think as long as we came together with a common sort of understanding about how we're going to move forward with this. We're not Obama. Now we're just, I'm sorry. He does white Obama. I just keep going with this story. He's very, but Mike Johnson is very one note like that. And it's very, you know, he has the same. Yeah, it's true, it's true.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Look, man, I don't even do a good Obama, but I guess my- Do Jennifer Coolidge, Miles, do it. Oh my God. Okay, he's killing me. I'm back. So anyway, this thing is now, this is now the real fucking, this is the time.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Are they gonna ram through this reconciliation bill that basically has all of the things Donald Trump wants for his agenda, right? Like he needs to make sure that the Trump tax cuts don't expire. He wants to increase military and immigrant harassment spending. He needs a bigger budget for that. He needs to raise the debt ceiling because, I mean, I thought this was to attack the debt, but also we need, we kind of needed some room there to have a higher deficit. And then part of all that is to power this by slashing so many social programs. It even makes Republican members of Congress's eyes bleed. They're like, I, this actually will decimate rural healthcare systems. If we do this, what, what am I supposed to do? So this was all happening.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Moody's also downgraded our credit rating. Just, you know, sure, it's fine. It's fine. It's all just fine. But there's still just a ton of disagreement, like within the party. Like there are some that are arguing like these cuts are deep enough. We need no one to have nothing is one strategy. Then other people are like, yo, cutting Medicaid is a non-starter for me.
Starting point is 00:29:27 There's no way I can go to my district and be like, yeah, man, you're fucked. You're sorry. You're terrified of the town halls. Yeah, already. Then others take an issue with the number of clean energy projects that are being gutted. Some are saying not enough clean energy projects are being gutted.
Starting point is 00:29:41 There's just then you have all the New York, New Jersey, California Republicans who are like, we need our salt tax cap raised or abolished completely. So everyone has like their own specific thing. How Mike Johnson makes all of this work. We are yet to see, but he has pressure because he's been telling Trump, I'm going to have this on your desk by Memorial Day, baby, so we can really fucking kick this thing off. Uh, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:30:05 what's so interesting is that like, they could just do this the way they did the first Trump tax cuts, which is be utter hypocrites about the deficit, which is again, kind of largely made up depending on how you look at it, uh, and just ram them through anyway and add 4 trillion more dollars to the deficit. Like those tax cuts did and allowed five five trillion five trillion. Thank you. Yeah and allowed you could write off your 60 million dollar private jet That was one of the many things in addition to your yachts, but the fact that they're trying They want to do this big beautiful bill
Starting point is 00:30:41 They're trying to do everything in budget reconciliation bill. They're trying to do everything in budget reconciliation. Remember, which was where also the Democrats in 2021 tried to get through like a $15 minimum wage and then Kyrsten Sinema voted that shit down. But like, this is what's so difficult about all this is that you can't please every single person. And you're being totally dishonest because all this bill is about is simply a wealth transfer to the richest people. So stop talking about Medicaid. Don't even make it about Medicaid. Find the money somewhere else or don't find it at all. Just live in your own hypocrisy.
Starting point is 00:31:14 This is going to help, man. When all the billionaires get a tax cut, it's going to trickle fucking in a direction. It will trickle somewhere. But you don't understand. I want to be richer while immigrants get poorer. This is great. You'll love this. And I do want to hurt people. Okay? This is for you. This bill is for you. Actually.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Yeah. We found something. There's a whole trillion dollars to terrorize immigrants in here. Okay? This is also really important. Yeah. I mean, that's fucking insane. While the same time, you're like, oh, sorry, we can't. So not only is a direct wealth transfer to the wealthy, the already wealthy, it's a wealth transfer to you're not going to have healthcare, disabled person, poor child, new mother, you were because we have to round up children and women and grandmothers with all of this, you know, yeah. Three year olds in immigration court.
Starting point is 00:32:04 That fucking kills me. Do you think manhunt island costs nothing? with all of this, you know, yeah. And put three-year-olds in immigration court? That shit fucking kills me. Do you think manhunt island costs nothing? We're hunting men on the island. How are we supposed to catch them? How do we populate said island? We have to set out the mines, that's expensive. There's like, you know, reporting that Trump
Starting point is 00:32:22 is definitely trying to manage all of it, too. Like, it sounds like the people that are sort of in battleground districts, he's kind of becoming a little more sensitive to because he does not want to lose a chamber of Congress in the midterms. Like, that's a huge thing for him. So even now, he's kind of like trying to be like, what the f- How do I fucking have it all ways at the same time? Because he definitely doesn't want to have a bunch of Democrats in have enough power to do investigations and he has to defend himself against, you know, his own fucking actions.
Starting point is 00:32:49 But then there's a little he wriggled out of that just fine. Yeah, don't worry. They won't anyway, even with the majority. We saw what happened in the last four years. Oh, my God. Remember that when they beg you for your vote again, be like, yeah, sorry, what happened the last time and what will you do different this time? Be like, well, we aren't them at least.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Oh, we're back to the same thing. You're not them. We're going to slowly think about possibly holding Donald Trump accountable. But democracy, let's decide it by the ballot box. Just give me $5. For the love of God, I just need five more dollars. Please. Hello.
Starting point is 00:33:28 I'm as you are. There was a video of her recently. I thought was AI. I was, I'm not mostly because it would be the first Congress person to it was the cadence. I was like, it's a little jilted. Like I was like, what's going on? And I was like, oh, it got left at the altar. I was like, it's a little jilted. Like I was like, what's going on? I was like, Oh, it got left at the
Starting point is 00:33:47 altar. Yeah. She was just how that came up. But yeah, I do this shit. I'm just being an asshole. No, no, I love it. I think I do want to think of it like this. She was left at the altar, you know, and that's why she talks like that. By her dentures. Her dentures were like, peace.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Sorry. You're on your own. You're on your own. But yeah, so the other thing too is like a lot of the shitty cuts that are being proposed, like cuts to snap or like Medicaid, they're timing those so they don't hit until the end of his turn to basically make a fucking catastrophe for the next administration, which could be him again. Exactly. Does he want to run again?
Starting point is 00:34:28 But it's weird. He's doing the sort of maneuvering as if he's like, man, I'm going to be out after this, but at least we can reset the clock on making the Democrats be responsible for a financial situation we created. He's doing, he's acting as though he's going to be out in like another month, like with the amount of shit he's done so far. Totally. I mean, that's what's crazy about this whole, it's been only over a few, whatever, three and a half months.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Nine days. Yeah. It's a sprint, not a marathon. And we're like, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Slow your roll. There's plenty of time to destroy everything. Face yourself.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Hello. Don't burn all your political capital like that in one go. I stretch it out a little bit. Don't do this big, beautiful bill. I mean, this is what they're doing, right? Because this is, they could not in 2017 cut Obamacare. That was, remember the town halls there. So they have to kill it indirectly.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Yeah. Right. It, but it is still a massive swing to even say the word Medicaid. I mean, good on the media, whatever is left of it for making that the sole issue. But some Republicans are walking into that trap of being like, well, Medicaid, you know, a lot of people are lying when they're on it. And they're openly saying this. The disabled people are lying about it. Right. And it's like, mmm, that's not going to play well at all. So Donald Trump should be fucking worried.
Starting point is 00:35:45 And I think this is where the pressure points are. I don't give a shit about the other ones who are like, we haven't found enough. Cut. Shut up. It's the people who are scared of their own constituents. Yeah. Who? No, they're like, this has this. There will be fallout from this. Even Josh Hawley is like, y'all don't fucking Medicaid.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I don't know, bro. And I'll do the thing where I sound like I'm going to be the first one out to try and give myself cover to act like the most sane guy in the Senate by being the first one. Be like, that's political Suez, I would not do that. That's immoral. But I won't stop it if it happens. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:16 I will be a yes vote. It's very easy to backtrack and get back in Trump's graces later. Everybody has done it. It's a lot easier to go out and object and then go back in with the groceries You know, it's such an old-fashioned term. When I came up with that term. I remember the year was 1859 I came up with the term groceries. It was a fantastic day I was doing analingus on one of my friends and I realized He said I did the best analingus.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I didn't have a thing of saying, I ate the ass like. Oh my God, no. And then, aha, groceries. You know, I taught Omari on those moves. It just wasn't hitting when I said, I ate the ass like my haul when I got back from the general store with salt pork and the like included and I needed something a little bit more concise. I also gave him the idea for ice box. So one of the things like for just just the things that are timed differently,
Starting point is 00:37:16 like SNAP benefits, right? They wouldn't shift the cost to the states for SNAP benefits until fiscal year 2028. Medicaid work requirements that Republicans are being like, this will be like a good $300 billion hit of savings that won't begin until 2029. So they're doing, they're trying to do as much to as with also sweeteners to be like, there'll be a new senior victory fund grant you can get or a baby senior re-inventing the shit that we already have.
Starting point is 00:37:45 There's just well, I don't like it. But even the thing like, right, like the the cutting the taxes on tips and things like that, those aren't even while he did say that. And it's popular. Like the economists that are like are talking about this are saying like, it's not going to be that big of a thing. This is it says the proposed tax cuts only apply to income taxes, not payroll taxes. That means the estimated 37% of tipped workers in the country who didn't make enough money to face federal income taxes in 2022.
Starting point is 00:38:11 That's when this analysis happened, would see no benefits from this proposal. This is another economist that quote, it is also going to do very little for workers, even that received tips at the low to middle part of the income distribution. Who reports their tips accurately, if at all. Yeah, mom. Yeah, literally just dangling keys hoping we'll get distracted. Sure, truly, truly. Like there's a lot of stuff that they want to be like, look, everything that's going to be great now, but only to throw money on like, you know, this is different than 2017 when like interest rates weren't as high,
Starting point is 00:38:44 like getting going even further into the muck with like this This is different than 2017 when interest rates weren't as high. Going even further into the muck with this dumb, all this ridiculous spending is just going to keep us pretty entrenched in this situation. Or if not worse, maybe, who knows? But again, the thing that can potentially be on the side of maintaining the terrible status quo we have now is just all the Republican infighting. But Trump is determined. Because again, none of his policies are popular enough to just take on a vote on its own.
Starting point is 00:39:13 So it has to, like to your point, Francesca, it has to happen through reconciliation. Because if you've said, hey, I need a $1 trillion let's terrorize the immigrants fund, they're going to say, no, no one's going to fucking vote for that. Well, they're also going to say, how are you going to pay for it, right? So that's why they have to to say, get like, no, no one's gonna fucking vote. They're also going to say how you're going to pay for it. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Right. So that's why they have to do it by cutting Medicaid, which then yeah, but this has always been the Republicans problem when they're in the majority too. Um, they're always in fighting cause you know, it's all between, you know, the budget hawks and then just like the anti-immigrant psychos who are like, Hey, we didn't take down every single gay flag in this bill. Didn't say to, you know, burn them.
Starting point is 00:39:51 So I'm not going to vote for this. And everyone's got their little pet issue. But they, again, I can't believe, again, we're still like, we've stopped talking about Elon a little bit, but like, we should not, you know? The cuts that Dozier is doing are still, and the access to our information is still very alive. stop talking about Elon a little bit, but like, we should not, you know, the, the dozer is, is doing are still, and the access to our information is still very alive. We talked about that on yesterday's episode about how, like, there's this
Starting point is 00:40:12 article in Politico that's trying to act like Elon's gone away. And I'm like, you guys are fucking playing yourselves and the readers by being like, and he's gone. Trump doesn't even talk about him. It's like, there's again, Trump is not turning his back on the richest man in the world who got him into office. And who knows what other fucking shit that he helped enable, like just with his money and influence, like to then be like, and now like none of the Republicans are
Starting point is 00:40:35 talking about it's like, you're just gearing up for midterm. So people can't be like, Elon Musk is doing all this stuff, but let's be real. He's staying. He's a stain on fucking everything. Yep. Still, no, Elon's gone. We're fine on that. Biden was actually a good guy and don't look at Israel.
Starting point is 00:40:50 It's not doing anything right now. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. They're just, you know, there's just a terrible spike in the humanitarian crisis there with the lack of any, just like they're continuing to bomb hospitals. Nothing has changed. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:41:03 So anyway, we'll see what happens with this endeavor that the Republicans are, you know, getting ready to undertake this week. So hopefully, I don't know, hopefully fizzles out, but they're going to they're definitely going to do fucking everything they can to try and get as many yes, as possible. But the margins are thin, like Wal-Mart's profits margins, as they say. That's why they're worried about the tariffs. Next one. So I don't know if you saw the clip of like Bruce Springsteen,
Starting point is 00:41:30 just like just doing like very boilerplate criticism of Donald Trump. He's like, he's immoral. He's corrupt. It reminds me of like De Niro. Like De Niro's taken a stand against him. Fuck that guy. Yeah. I mean, you know? Like, fuck that guy. Yeah, I mean, at least he said, fuck that guy. Bruce was like, hey, man, this guy's bad. And I'm like, yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:41:51 I think he was in the UK when he said that, so that was met with, like, like, you guys are different. There's some things happening, not good things in the world. Tell them, Bruce. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some bad stuff. Like what? It's cool. Specifically, I'm a little too insulated
Starting point is 00:42:04 to know specifically what's bad. But I hear things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some bad stuff. Like what? Specifically, I'm a little too insulated to know specifically what's bad. But I hear things. But I hear it's bad and corrupt and immoral. My old podcast partner, Barack, used to tell me some stuff. Oh my God. Barry used to tell me some wild stuff, man,
Starting point is 00:42:19 about the way that we can use drones now to do shit. I had no idea. Had no idea. But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about some other stuff. Donald Dump, that's him. He's bad. So he said this, this set off a fucking truth social storm on Monday morning at 1.34 a.m.
Starting point is 00:42:41 This is what Trump just for whatever reason starts shitposting quote How much did Kamala Harris pay Bruce Springsteen for his poor performance during her campaign for president? Why did he accept that money if he's such if he's such a fan of hers isn't that a major and illegal campaign contribution? What about Beyonce? He did put the accent mark on the e He would have died He doesn't he doesn't want smoke with the B. He doesn't want the hive, I guess, or maybe Seattle, correct? And how much went to Oprah
Starting point is 00:43:13 and Bono? I'm going to call for a major investigation into this matter. Candidates aren't allowed to pay for endorsements, which is what Kamala did under the guise of paying for entertainment. In addition, this was a very expensive and desperate effort to artificially build up for blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's fucking nonsense. How much has Vanilla Ice gotten for performing at Mar-a-Lago? The money that they have to shell out to get anyone to show up to their shit. I mean, Snoop was at their inauguration. Carrie Underwood was at the inauguration. Carrie Underwood was at the inauguration. Yeah. But that being said, I also kind of want an investigation on how much money
Starting point is 00:43:50 was spent on celebrities, a billion dollars in what was it three months of the Harris campaign spent. But it is it's just so fragile. You won. You won. So motherfucker, you're out here switching up fucking pardons to get black people to wear MAGA hats like fucking Lil Wayne and Kodak Black. Like, what are we talking about? You're the most transactional motherfucker we've ever seen. But the boss got mad at me. That just shows you. I don't want anybody from Jersey to get mad at me.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Why do we call him the boss anyway? I imagine there's only one boss. Well, he may be the boss, but I'm the commander in chief. So, so fuck out of here and everything. He said, cause he's so, he loves Bruce Springsteen music. You know, that's true. Like he's played it. They've told him, bro, do not play this shit.
Starting point is 00:44:34 He played it at a thing in New Jersey. I think it also feels like music of, or no, he said something or maybe he was talking shit about Bruce. I know at one point he liked Bruce Springsteen, but then Bruce Springsteen's like, now fuck out of here. And then he's like, well then fuck you then forever. And it's been like that.
Starting point is 00:44:50 You leave. I never liked you anyways. What? Yo, it's also just really terrifying cause I just saw this an hour ago. I guess the president of CBS is resigning, saying the company and I don't agree on the path forward likely in relationship to the Trump lawsuit,
Starting point is 00:45:10 because Trump again is trying to sue CBS for editing an interview with Kamala Harris to make her sound minimally more cogent, because of course everyone should edit those fucking interviews. It was a funny, funnily enough, an interview question about Gaza. It was long-winded, they edited it.
Starting point is 00:45:27 They do this all the time. Fox News edited the shit out of their one-on-one with Donald Trump on the campaign trail, making him look far more sane. And it's just scary, right? Because you're like, this kind of retribution or whatever he's doing, all these investigations. Like, I mean, look, anything to take the heat off, like, I don't know, a woman selling tamales on the street.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Like, that's good. Like, but I'm also like, people are capitulating, you know, like what's. Yeah. Wait, so is the head of CBS resigned because they wanted to capitulate? That's unclear. Yeah, we don't know. But that's unclear. So it could be like, she was like I'm, I think we should pay. Yeah. And that's, that makes more sense. Because then they would be like, Well, I don't want smoke. I'm gonna resign. And then they're like, What do you think? I think she resigned because she doesn't want to pay. She probably wants to fight it. Oh, and then the pressure is to be like, Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Oh, and then the pressure is to be like, fuck right here. She's like, no, we need that money to pay for more TV shows about Afghan war vets or whatever. And they're pet Indians who are supposed to play Afghani. Yeah. And like, because there was like, I mean, the shit is still going back and forth within 60 minutes to be like, man, fuck out of here, bro. You're not going to tell us what to fucking do. And there's, yeah. And yeah, and there had out of here, bro. You're not going to tell us what to fucking do. And there's yeah. And yeah. And there had my oh my God. Just go cry on your big pile of money.
Starting point is 00:46:49 My heart goes out to you. How much I would love to cry on a big pile of money. I mean, do you think you'd be able to even cry? You'd be like, wait, hold the fuck on. I'm on a pile of money. Yeah. It's really beautiful. Yeah. Decent proposal. You know of money. Yeah, tears of joy. Like real indecent proposal, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Screech with ducking my way through it. Just having your eyes with your fucking $100 bills. Yeah. And then get a terrible eye infection because money is filthy. All right. Let's take a quick break. I can buy healthcare. Hey, you can.
Starting point is 00:47:20 We'll come back to talk about the American dream, but the one you win via reality show after this. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation. Aubrey O'Day is sitting next to us here. You are, as we sit here, right up the street from where the trial is taking place.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Some people saw that you were going to be in New York and they immediately started jumping to conclusions. So can you clear that up? First of all, are you here to testify in the Diddy Trial? Aubrey will offer her opinions and expertise based on her first-hand knowledge. From her days on Making the Band as she emerged as the breakout star, the truth of the situation would be opposite of the glitz and glamour. It wasn't all bad, but I don't know that any of the good was real.
Starting point is 00:48:19 I went through things there. Listen to Amy and TJ Presents, Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams
Starting point is 00:48:58 and bestselling author and meat eater founder, Stephen Rinella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the ice age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores
Starting point is 00:49:26 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The number one hit true crime podcast, The Girlfriends is back with something new, The Girlfriends Spotlight. Our first two series introduced you to an incredible gang of women who teamed up to fight injustice, showing just how powerful sisterly solidarity
Starting point is 00:49:51 can be. We're keeping this mission alive with the Girlfriend Spotlight. Each week a different woman sits down with me, Anna Sinfield, to share their incredible story of triumph over adversity. Like Luanne, who was raised in a secretive religious community. Do I want my freedom? Or do I want my family? And found a way to escape. When she said, you know you can leave, right?
Starting point is 00:50:15 It was a light bulb. And now helps other women get out too. I loved my girls. I still love my girls. So come and join our girl gang. Listen to The Girlfriend Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Dr. Maya Shankar. I host a podcast called A Slight Change of Plans. I started this show because unexpected change comes for all of us, and there's no set playbook for how to deal with it.
Starting point is 00:50:51 I have all of this psychological baggage that I'm carrying with me, and the last thing I want to do is to pass that on to my daughter. So I have to figure this out. This is this puzzle of my trauma. I have to figure it out, and I have to figure it out now. Join me this season when I have to figure this out. This is this puzzle of my trauma. I have to figure it out and I have to figure it out now. Join me this season when I talk to Amanda Knox about her choice to reconnect with the prosecutor who helped put her behind bars. This is not about him. This is about me and what I am capable of giving.
Starting point is 00:51:20 And I know that I am capable of being kind to this man. And by God, I am going to do it and no one can stop me. Listen to a slight change of plans on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. So there was a story last week that was popping up that was like, Christy Gnome, DHS secretary, teaming up with the fucking guy who made Duck Dynasty to pitch a show that makes a mockery of citizenship and the plight of people seeking refuge in this country.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Say it ain't so. Yeah, there's a full deck. The Daily Mail has like the entire deck and has just been describing. This is a, first of all, this is a real fucking thing that Kristi Noem, the Department of Homeland Security and Rob Warsaw, who's the writer and producer and Canadian that made Duck Dynasty. Oh, that just, I'm like, bro, why, bro. Why are you acting like Maga, bro? You're Canadian. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Get out of here. Yeah, you guys lost. Don't be a token immigrant. OK, you don't have to fall in line and be one of these Maga people. But anyway, here they are. They've got their show. They've been pitching it to places like Netflix, allegedly, trying to find someone that will greenlit this monstrosity,
Starting point is 00:52:42 our green light monstrosity. Amazon Prime will definitely do this. If anything, it has to be Bezos. So it's like, Jeff, Trump will just be like, Jeff, you'll buy this, right? Well, Mr. President, yeah, you love it, don't you? Well, you know, there is something you're going to buy. Yeah, we're greenlighting it. We're greenlighting it. Welcome, Kristy. I'll drop all antitrust against you. Okay, done. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay So this the series is called the American and it's I guess named after the train that contestants will be riding around the country And competing in a regionally specific quote cultural contest like no rolling logs in Wisconsin. Yes Or whatever. What did you just say? What hog wait, what hogs doing what to hogs? Rolling logs in Wisconsin. Rolling, standing on logs and like, you know, trying to get the other person to fall off and shit, you know, hillbilly Olympic shit.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Like Ultimate Ninja Warrior? What? Yeah, kind of. Well, it's different. I'll let me really just unfold this whole show before before you jump to conclusions. Okay, so so fucking I'm so sorry, this is real. Okay, but the show format is basically going to echo pretty much every other reality competition show. It's
Starting point is 00:53:51 just so fucking cruel. And the grand prize is citizenship to a country that hates you. So as described in the pitch contestants quote contestants from various countries and backgrounds would be pre vetted and arrive at Ellis Island in New York City. The citizenship a boat symbolizing a new beginning. This is how the show opens. There they'd be greeted by the host. They haven't booked anyone.
Starting point is 00:54:14 So they're saying someone quote, Oh, I'm super available. A fam well, are you a naturalized American citizen? You're no, see, that's the thing. They need a famous naturalized American who was also born in another country. So the pitch is saying people like Sofia Vergara, Ryan Reynolds, Mila Kunis, who's from Ukraine, as possible hosts to greet the contestants, and upon which they will give the contestants a welcome gift. That gift?
Starting point is 00:54:39 A personalized baseball glove. Okay? These are people who are on a game show because they want to be citizens of the United States. They're like, oh my god, welcome to the show. Here's your baseball glove before we completely make you debase yourself for citizenship. Then. Yeah, put your nuts right here for the duration of this. I feel like a more American thing would be like a gun. I know, right? Exactly. Here it is. Or here is
Starting point is 00:55:02 like, here is your ability to completely compartmentalize and not view yourself as an immigrant anymore once you get citizenship and then pull the ladder out for everyone else. I kind of like this. Because here's why it was- This is your hot take. This is my hot take though.
Starting point is 00:55:17 But keep going. I'll reserve it. I wanna hear more. Yeah, let me do the full pitch and then you tell me why this is, why you're green lighting. Oh yeah, yeah. And we'll all go around if we're green lighting or red light or passing guy. I haven't look I'm still on the fence
Starting point is 00:55:30 I want to know more so Contestants will travel state to state meeting quote interesting Americans and learning about the history culture and quirks of each region Viewers in turn will learn Dennis Prager number one I know right they will learn through video package about each wannabe, wannabe American. This is what they say in the Daily Mail, wannabe American and why they want to live here. We'll join the quote, this is from the deck.
Starting point is 00:55:53 We'll join the laughter, tears, frustration, and joy, hearing their backstories as we are reminded how amazing it is to be an American through the eyes of 12 wonderful people who want nothing more than to have what we have. Then they're divided into teams. The right to die in a mass shooting. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:56:09 And then you have to have a wallet biopsy done on your way to the hospital and be like, sorry, I don't see an insurance card in here. Then they'll all be put into teams where then they will have to do battle, not to the death quite yet. That's probably like season three, I'd imagine. Yeah, they gotta space it up.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Scenes envisaged include one in San Francisco where the immigrants are set down a mine to collect the most gold in Cape Canaveral, Florida, the hub of NASA. What the fuck do you think San Francisco is? There was never gold in San Francisco, you fucking idiots. What's wrong with you? They don't know about Sutter's Mill, All right. Don't fucking ask about that. I took a trip there. It is a school field trip. Everybody in California got to go to Sutter's Mill, baby. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Where they put all that fake gold. I thought I got fucking gold when I went to Sutter's Mill. I know. It's same. And they're like, no, they put stuff in there so that way you can put it in a little bottle and take it home with you. I'm like, this is fucking bullshit. I think they should let the immigrants smoke in an opium den in San Francisco, if to get the real experience. Get real racist with it. I think the immigrants should start a tech company and then destroy democracy.
Starting point is 00:57:17 And then create a podcast about how no other immigrants are deserving of the chance to destroy democracy. And then ascend the heights of the Trump administration, 5.0. Then they'll go to Cape Canaveral, where NASA is, and they would rush to build and launch a rocket. I'm not even joking. There's another one. They go to Detroit to assemble a Ford Model T where they will put the protocols of Elders of Zion in the glove box, just like Henry Ford did.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Maybe the last part wasn't true, but they will be making a fucking model T on a fucking factory. No, no, no, no, no, no. I, first of all, I am not anti this premise for a couple reasons. Number one, it sounds a lot quicker and easier than applying to come to the United States
Starting point is 00:58:03 when we're straight forward, United States and following the rules. This is way better than the lottery. They should do this with vets for healthcare and it would be better. Oh yeah, much quicker, much quicker. Number two, I do think that in the process of learning the backstory, actually we would all learn something about immigrants to this country. It's like well my family was held at gunpoint in El Salvador by a gang there. They're gonna say they're the biggest fan of the San Diego Padres baseball team. Right, right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:58:38 And they knew they wanted to be American when they saw Tony Gwyn take his first at bat or some shit like that. When I watched The Real Housewives I knew I wanted to be one. Remember, all of our trash television is actually international and people can see us. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. It would be beautiful if they did tell all of those stories. They're like, I have a child who's dying and we were held at gunpoint and we have to leave. And then at the end, they're like, sorry, we're going to take you back. Let's follow up in six months.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Exactly. That's why we're in our fourth union. I mean, you guys watch more reality than I do, but like 90 Day Fiancé, doesn't that, Miles, have a little bit of insight into each character? And like, I'm just saying, you'd get a backstory. You get some texture. Most people aren't sort of like running from a nation that's been
Starting point is 00:59:26 absolutely destabilized by the United States. He's just like, and I fell in love with her on app. It's like, okay, fine. Then you learn a little bit more and more. Right now, there's a guy who left Iran to go to Hattiesburg, Mississippi to be with a woman. He's like, if I go back, I think I'm going to go to jail probably.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Sure. Because I think I'm a spy. That one recently has been touching on some actual geopolitical stuff, but it's still shot with the perspective like, oh man, Iran's so fucked up. You don't want to fucking be there. We don't even need to talk about it much further than.
Starting point is 01:00:01 There's no way Iran is more fucked up than Virginia. Yeah. I don't know about that. It's definitely hate our freedoms. Yeah. no way Iran is more fucked up than Virginia. Yeah, I don't know about that. They definitely hate our freedoms. Yeah, we're not going to see someone on this show being like, well, when the School of the Americas trained the goon squads to get rid of, like, yeah. But I do think if you tweak it a little bit, it could be something I could get on board with.
Starting point is 01:00:19 I do think it should be actual Americans, people who were born here, whatever national, the fuck papers keep their citizens versus Yes versus Country swap Who can roll a log right? Who is like more experienced like the person who rockets? Rockets came from? Exactly. Other countries where they educate their children.
Starting point is 01:00:49 It should be more like citizenship swap, right? Yeah, you relinquish yours and give it to this person. Right. Yeah. It's like, motherfucker, I had to go through the Darien gap. You think I'm a fucking, I'm shook off some logs. Again, it's not, I wish this would be the kind of thing that would actually bring attention to like the plight of people around the world,, it's not I wish this would be the kind of thing that would actually bring attention to like the plight of people around the world. But it's
Starting point is 01:01:07 going to be done in such a America worship jingoistic nonsense about we just wrote a black mirror episode actually. Yeah, true. Yeah. Yeah. This is probably what the fucking room sounded like when these people are putting the deck together. They're like, what should it be called? And what are the press? Because in the deck, they're like, this is going to have so much sponsorship opportunity. This is just again, just around it out, right? The thing ends with
Starting point is 01:01:31 a train pulling up to the steps of the Capitol where they will receive their citizenship on the steps of the fucking Capitol. Continues to El Salvador with the rest of the people. No, that isn't true. According to the deck, the producer makes it clear. The losers will have all been pre-screened for eventual citizenship. So they will have a leg up when it comes to applying for citizenship in the more traditional way. Bullshit.
Starting point is 01:01:59 They're going to end up with Kilmar, Brago Garcia, also a train America. I'm sorry. This is fundamentally- Don't get on a train anywhere. I'm sorry. I, this is fundamentally. Don't get on a train anywhere. Don't even go to the fucking train at Disneyland. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. There's going to be some kind of derailment. It's going to be a Tesla train.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Yeah. Right. A hyper loop where everyone can perish in a concrete tube. Some of the prizes would be quote, iconically American, such as 1 million American airlines. I saw that. I saw that. A $10,000 Starbucks gift card or a lifetime supply of 76 gasoline. Wait, that's like a bajillion dollars, 76 gasoline.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Yeah, that's actually- That's actually worth it. Yeah, which one would you choose? I'm like, definitely going with the gas. Yeah, 100%. The gas, yeah, oh yeah. But then it's like, well, yeah, I guess I'll just sell gas on the side.
Starting point is 01:02:44 I'll be like, yeah, bro, I'm just filling up my- Yeah, I just give other people gas. Yeah. Yeah. And then I sell then it's like, well, yeah, I guess I just sell gas on the side. I'm like, yeah, I just like give other people gas. Yeah. And then I sell it to them on the low. I'm like, yeah, bro, if you have like anybody who needs like you got some troubles, you need gasoline, bro. I fucking want it come through. I'll give you guys like the pandemic where people are putting it in bags in their car. Yeah. That's not a good. OK, whatever. Teach their own to each terrible fire their own. So yeah, this is, the momentum has not stopped. And Kristi Noem is so fragile about how much of a fucking
Starting point is 01:03:14 pageant fascist she is. She's like, this is not about me. But she is such a pageant. Every single thing is like her, you know Now she's got tactical gear on now. She's on the border, you know now she's in front of a bunch of you know Shaved head detainees and a gulag like right and she's like this isn't about me, but it so is it's about like yeah I was just saying like she's got more for talk She's got like a better photographer following her than like the Beyonce
Starting point is 01:03:43 Whoever the Beyonce Instagram husband is, which by the way, it might be Jay-Z. I think Jay-Z has to do that sometimes. Also, she looks like she's had like a lot of work done. Oh yeah, yeah. Looks like she's definitely. You've pinpointed it. This is what is fundamentally happening with her face. I call her the dog killer with too much face filler.
Starting point is 01:04:03 She is terrifying. And in this corner. The dog killer with too much face filler. She is terrifying With the dog killer with too much filler Like I saw a picture where she looks like, you know a typical like Midwestern mom in one picture and oh, yeah Yeah, they it seems like- I mean, all that, they got Mar-a-Lago face. Yeah. They all got, they all got Mar-a-Lago face. They went through like a conveyor belt in Mar-a-Lago, her and Laura Loomer.
Starting point is 01:04:32 I mean, like this one, she looks like a character on fucking Righteous Gemstones, you know? Well, that's old, that's before the glow up. You can even tell- I know, but I'm saying like, this is where she was at. This is where she was, and then she's like, Hi, I'm a real housewife. Now it's just very, very freaky. And yes. It's funny because like, it within the department. She has no
Starting point is 01:04:56 respect either. Like everything you read about the Department of Homeland Security. They're like, I'm just a fucking joke. She just goes to fucking pose and like, we're, we're the ones doing the real work of brutalizing innocent people. The fuck? Yeah, running for the love of the game. Exactly. She's in the love of it for her private jet. I think she's trying to get right now right for like $15. She's gonna strap a dog to the roof.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Oh, yeah, yeah. She's gonna know she's gonna tape it right in front of the engine intake. And back when they used to put the dogs and hammocks by the engine intake. Yeah, and maybe get sucked through and blows the engine intake and be like. When they used to put the dogs in hammocks by the engine intake. Yeah. Maybe get sucked through and blows the engine. I don't even know who cares anyway. No amount. Anyway, Francesca, follow me. Thank you so much for joining me on the daily.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Zike guys, Francesca, they can find you at the Elysian Theater, May 30th for the live show, Bituation Room. Yes. It's going to be a great night. Where else do they find you? Where else do they follow you? You can listen to the Bituatio Room. Yes. It's gonna be a great one. Where else do they find you? Where else do they follow you? You can listen to the Bituatio Room podcast,
Starting point is 01:05:49 wherever you get your podcasts, or watch it live, youtube.com slash frannyfio, F-R-A-N-I-F-I-O, which is my handles. Also, I do a monthly at, if you're in LA or Pasadena, The Ice House, May 21st is our next show, this Wednesday, June, whatever the third Wednesday is. Anyway, yeah man, follow me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? I don't know if you guys did this one. Did you do someone asking Grok to explain white genocide like Jar Jar Binks? No, actually, we did. We talked about how Grok was just being like, Hi, what's baseball? And he's like, white genocide. But no, we talked about how Grok was just being like, hi, what's baseball? And he's like, white genocide! But no, what, is this real? This is just someone who said, Grok, explain
Starting point is 01:06:31 why genocide to me like Jar Jar Binks from Star Wars. Misa gonna explain this white genocide thing like Jar Jar Binks, okie doke, okie day. Some folks think there's a big sneaky plan to make white people go poof, gone, finito. They say stuff like too many non-white folks moving in, mixing cultures and fewer white babies being born. It's all part of this plot. I didn't realize I would have to do the Jar Jar voice. Yeah, you're killing it. Uh-oh, me say thing that's a bit loony. Experts say these changes just happen natural-like, because of how do people live, move and choose family. No proof or any mean plan. Nope. This idea come from scary angry talk, not truth. So no worry. Just keep being kind to all. Okey day. Oh my God. Grock did that.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Yo, I, oh my God. I love that. It's still, it's still maintained. It's like, I can't go full white genocide. Y'all it's they're telling me to do it, but I'm not, you know, a lot of the facts say otherwise, you know, Grock out. Wow. Fuck you know, so funny. Paula Viganallan, where do the people find you follow you support you and what's a work of media you like? You can find me at Paula Viganallan p a l l a b i g u n a l a n. I am everywhere. I run a show at the comedy store called facial recognition comedy. You can follow that account as well.
Starting point is 01:07:47 And I might be at Francesca's show on the 30th. Yeah. Yeah. And okay, my boyfriend runs the baseball team. So now my algorithm just sends me a bunch of baseball stuff. But I recently saw that there's the first woman in pro baseball on a Canadian men's team just happened. And then also I saw this cool guy who has collected,
Starting point is 01:08:10 he's in Michigan and he has like a collection of rare women's baseball memorabilia. Like, it's just so cool. Like he's got the all American girls professional baseball league type shit. Like Rockford features. Oh damn. It's so cool. Wow. That's very cool.
Starting point is 01:08:28 That's uh I saw a league of their own. Yeah. Hey, I know that from really their own. I know women in baseball from a movie. Yeah. I know women baseball movie. I know. I know shit. I know works of fiction. So Pauly B, that was real. That was real. What? Whatever happened to that, though? To the the Pro Baseball League?
Starting point is 01:08:52 It ended, right? The Hulu series. Wasn't there a series on Hulu? The Hulu series started up. But yeah, the baseball, it was just like, oh, yeah, men are at war. Now they're back and we're going back. It stopped 1954. Yeah, boo.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Yeah. Boo. Yeah, they're like, all right, in 1954. Yeah, boo. Yeah. Boo. Yeah, they're like, all right, man, Korea looks like an L also, so y'all just come back. But Hollywood did a film about it. Didn't it come back when we did, like, we did representations about it? No, no, no, no, no. No, but they did put dogs on men's basketball teams. So yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Yes. Oh, man. Don't even get me started about Juana, man. What a time. Oh my god. Where, oh get me started about Juana, man. What a time. Where... Oh, me? Is that my turn? Oh, shit! Look, a fucking work of media.
Starting point is 01:09:34 I like... Someone posted this on bluesky at gunntoucher.bsky.social posted this. I think about this anytime I see James Carville mentioned. It's a HuffPost article from 2008, from when James Carville was like actually was in the Brad Pitt movie, the assassination of Jesse James by the coward Robert Ford.
Starting point is 01:09:57 This is an excerpt from this article. But the favorite scene for political junkies is bound to be campaign consultant James Carville's cameo as Missouri Governor Thomas Crittenden. The man who put Bill Clinton in the White House gives a crisp performance, telling Ford, played by Casey Affleck, that he wants gunslinger James dead. All the same, director Andrew Dominic vows he'll never work with Carville again. Quote, I didn't want to hire him in the first place, Dominic tells us. He came in unprepared. He couldn't get his lines out right. It's like he has ADD. It took us three hours to shoot that one small scene.
Starting point is 01:10:29 I am now envisioning Uncle Baby Billy from Righteous Gemstones. Like that is basically what James, he's like, no, God damn it. I need to get my I need to get my inspiration right. Just does some cocaine. Comes back. He's like, I want that man dead. Is that it's like that's not the line James what is it he said I need you to do something for me and I need it done right what a fucking time so I love you James Starbottom that was really good and your baby Billy it's all kind of the
Starting point is 01:10:57 same you know James Cobb oh yeah James Cobb will talk about all the things that the democratic party needs to do uh and nothing about the stuff that they should have done. That's the thing. And then Uncle Baby Billy is just kind of, there's more. The content is always 2020 in James Carville's mind. Right. Exactly. It's always 2020.
Starting point is 01:11:14 And, uh, Uncle Baby Billy's like this here called the silver bullet course, all the way from Colorado. That's what I think in my mind. I'm like, oh shit, he's, it's the same. It's James Carville trying to do a teen-just, like Uncle Baby Billy did this season in Righteous Gemstones, but just doing a bunch of cocaine, trying to be teen Jesus. All right, anyway-
Starting point is 01:11:33 Wait, can I plug one more thing before we go? Cause I fully forgot. Dallas, Texas, I am headlining the Dallas Comedy Club on Sunday, May 25th. I have sold fewer tickets than Francesca has sold at the Legion. We need more Dallas. And it's a big theater. So please come through, tell your people in Dallas to buy a ticket. It's 9 p.m. on May 25th. Okay, I love you.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Okay, Zeit Gang. That's like a week from now, six days. Yeah, it's rough. Come through, support our friend, Pala V. Come through, it'll be a good show also. It's not like you're gonna go- Do it or I'll burn Jack's house down too. Yeah, he's already gonna preemptively burn his shit, I think, yeah. Anyway, you can find us, we can find me on,
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Starting point is 01:12:49 Go to the description of this episode right now on the app you're using. You see that description? That's where you'll find the footnotes. Footnotes. Thank you. That's you're going to find all the articles we talked about today, as well as a song that we are going to ride out on.
Starting point is 01:13:03 I saw this, like, just an interesting remix of this Sonic Youth track, I Dreamed a Dream, which was really dope. Like, someone was chopping it up, and it's kind of cool because it's got this driving, like, picked guitar thing going on. But the track too is dope too. So we're going to go out on I Dreamed I Dream, I Dreamed I Dream by Sonic Youth for this one. So we'll take that out into the sunset. I dreamed, I dream, I dreamed, I dream by Sonic youth, uh, for this one. So we'll take that out into the sunset. That is going to do it for us today. We'll be back later. Uh,
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