The Daily Zeitgeist - Class Traitor 2024! Guns for Babies? 07.15.22

Episode Date: July 15, 2022

In episode 1288, Jack and Miles are joined by comic book/TV writer and producer, Cody Ziglar, to discuss… But Who Would Run If Biden Doesn’t? Conservative victimhood train rolls on! Meet the JR-15..., an AR-15 For Kids! Starbucks f---ed around with the chicken sandwich wars and FOUND OUT and more! But Who Would Ru n If Biden Doesn’t? Newsom slams red state governors on D.C. trip, stoking speculation about his future Conservative victimhood train rolls on! Meet the JR-15, an AR-15 For Kids! An AR-15 designed for children shocks even the most jaded gun-control advocates An Illinois gunmaker is under fire for launching a 'JR-15' rifle aimed specifically at kids Governor Newsom Takes Action to Further Restrict Ghost Guns and Protect California Kids from Gun Violence Selling a New Generation on Guns Starbucks fucked around with the chicken sandwich wars and FOUND OUT LISTEN: Never Give Up by ChronixxSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese
Starting point is 00:00:52 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti and I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career.
Starting point is 00:01:10 That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the
Starting point is 00:01:36 making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 245 episode 5 of their daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared
Starting point is 00:02:12 consciousness and it's friday july 15th 2022 any particular national day hey a national give something away day i think that's important yeah if you plenty of people have stuff they don't need or if and it can it doesn't even have to be tangible shit maybe give a kind word away but yeah give something away day that's like one i'm like okay i'm on board with that although it's probably like like brought to you by target because your space for your closet and let the new shit in. By the oil industry. Right, exactly. Also, National I Love Horses Day, which feels brand new.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I Love Horses Day? Shout out to the horse grow lobby that got that in the... Horse Farmers of America? Do they have a secret thing? I don't know who benefits from that. I'm sure some rich guy. And Gummy Worm Day. Shout out to gummy worm.
Starting point is 00:03:05 You missed the old Tony Roma's dirt cup. A classic. All right, well, my name is, oh, yeah, my name. That's the part we're at. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. When I was by the ocean, and yes, this was my life. I was playing soccer, but a beach faux pas was rife. I kicked Daniel in his stomach just to watch him cry.
Starting point is 00:03:35 When my crew rides on crotch rockets, I say, I'm Jack O'Brien. You know, it's hard to get that. It's hard to get as low as Johnny Cash. You can do it. I got there almost. That's courtesy of Garden Greg, Worldwide Worf on Twitter. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:04:04 If you like Hadron Colliders and new particles to explain. Do-do-do-do-do. Did you do this one? Do-do-do-do. Yeah, I did. Fuck! I did one similar to it, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Was it Hadron Colliders? It was Hadron Colliders, yeah. But I think I've done two. If you like Hadron Colli... I think we've hit that twice. Oh, my God. This is so humiliating! think i've done two if you like hey dronkala i think we've we've hit that twice oh my god this is so humiliating to do this but you know what i just gotta say if you like going to moans and other verses and dimensions unknown okay shout out to shout out to fighter the night man and
Starting point is 00:04:43 also andrew bub then takaku Thila, Nicole Adrian, Fighter the Nightman. Apparently that was a whole collab. Yeah, a whole collab. Yeah. I'm sorry. It was like a posse cut. I'm just getting back into the swinging thing.
Starting point is 00:04:55 So I apologize. Okay. Yeah. Wow. This was fucking embarrassing, man. I'm not going to lie. There's no other way to put it. I'm going to turn my mic off and just I'm going to mosey.
Starting point is 00:05:06 I'll leave this loose. You know what? Just call me your boy, Kusama, a.k.a. Hideo Noho, the Lord of Lancashire. I'm just twisting blunts like you don't even fucking know. Okay. You don't even fucking know. You don't even fucking know. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:20 The human mind cannot comprehend. I was in Spain and I was abstaining. And now my tolerance is fucking. The human mind cannot comprehend. I was in Spain and I was abstaining. And now my tolerance is fucking cruel. I feel like I'm like a person in your eyes. I don't have an Emmy anymore. I have a weed pen I took a hit last night and I was on Jupiter. I could not comprehend. I don't have an Emmy anymore.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I'm out of the game. Got hit by the winds of Jupiter. Hey, what's that voice? That voice is someone we're thrilled to be joined by in our third seat. A hilarious Emmy nominated writer, director, producer, just all around hilarious human being who has written for shows like Rick and Morty, Robot Chicken, currently writing for Futurama, Marvel Comics. Please welcome the brilliant and talented Cody Ziegler! Thank you, fellas. Thank you for having the fanfare.
Starting point is 00:06:10 People can't see, but there's a large audience in rapture right now. They love that I'm here. Thanks for having me. Yeah. Not only can I go as low as Johnny Cash, I can do horn noises with my mouth. Oh, man. So, I mean, Zieg, like I was telling you before, it's amazing to every time I feel like I see you, you've leveled up seven thousand more levels.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Like you write and you write in comics. I'm trying to, man. I mean, I mean, I look, I look, I get it. I get the humility to the point where you can't take a compliment and you're like, I think I have imposter syndrome. You are no fucking imposter, sir sir you're doing it for real it's you know it's it's the it's the black uncle in us where we got i was trying to get like you like that's my response to it right now i'm trying to get like you man you know that's awesome no no i'm i'm actually trying to get like you uh but yeah it's just been everything everything everything's everything's good man like uh yeah like you said like i've been knee deep in in like just everything like futurama and comic books uh i got this new book i'm working on
Starting point is 00:07:09 spider punk that people have been liking it's it's so fun like i'm a huge punk kid uh people can't see me but i have pink hair and a nose ring and and and i'm very much it's very much what i wanted to do as a kid i get to do now it's like i'm very stoked to like work in this world and like basically just have a bunch of like black and brown punks running around for a couple issues and and then fight bad people kicking the shit out of nazis and shit yeah like i love it yeah give me an excuse to to fight fascists i'll write it any day that's cool man how was jupiter by the way it was you know it was a little a little anxietyucing, but after, like, 30 or so minutes, I calmed myself. Calmed down?
Starting point is 00:07:47 Yeah, I think edibles might be, I think, like, the sleep weed gummy might be the move. I just, I don't think I have it in me for, like, chocolate bars or, like, the vape pens. I need a very small exact dose, I think, to really get my sleepy sweet spot. Yeah. really get my sleepy sweet spot yeah i've see i'm glad i took like a 12 day break because i even like edibles and my tolerance was like criminal to the point i was like this is just a waste of money and i shouldn't do this anymore like oh look i my buddy got me a chocolate bar and i got like three pieces of it before like i went to bed like maybe a week ago and when i tell you i was like i was having a panic attack like i i could like feel myself breathing like i was i was seeing shit it was crazy like it really much was it very much was
Starting point is 00:08:29 those like tweets that are like uh this shit is edward doing shit and then 20 minutes later like the sponge fog like mr crap yeah yeah it was it was never gotten like that fucked up from like doing anything with weed it was it was crazy i can't go back i'm out of gmail yeah somebody replied to me talking about getting too high and like having all the thoughts that people were having about the uh james webb pictures like when i was you know 13 just being like we're all space dust man we're all so small, man. And the elevated guy was like, I am the result of 14 billion years of cosmic evolution. I am a thermodynamic miracle. I am the waking universe looking back at itself. And I was like, man, where were you when I was 13?
Starting point is 00:09:32 Yeah. Bolte. Yeah, where were you at last week when I was spiraling in my bedroom? The one thing I remember Joe Rogan saying about weed that I'm like, well, that's trippy. He's like, the reason you're uncomfortable when you smoke weed is because you're expanding man because you're fucking you're creating new limits for yourself and by definition that shit's different and jarring i was like oh shit okay i'm back back when joe rogan was a drug podcast and not a fucking nazi right wing yeah soft soft uh soft launch for millions of fascists i just like i feel like the take that i always had when i saw like space shit what my first thing was like yo but what if out there they looking at the same picture but from the other side
Starting point is 00:10:19 that was my first thought it was i didn't get my ego death shit to like maybe college but yeah my my my thought process lately has been like man i'm just bummed i'm never gonna like be able to meet like a four-armed alien like i'm just so upset that like i'm never gonna meet like a weird like hey you never know man man look i would love nothing more than like fucking cool peaceful aliens like that like the independence day one it's like just like stop by koreatown like hey what's up jay you want to go like go around the universe for a couple of days like let's do it beam me or they're like hey man you know a good korean food spot i'm yeah i got you yeah i like that better the alien comes and it's like yo man show me a good time yeah
Starting point is 00:11:00 some legs for like gorthax it'll be great man right and he pricks his like skin because he didn't he didn't use the cracker you're like yeah you hurt yourself on that crab leg i mean they're here they haven't killed us yet and i do feel like they're doing some tourism i think most of their tourism is like underwater right now so that's why yeah that's i i get it man the the sea is pretty cool i get it bro but come get at me get at me and zig let's chill yeah all right well we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about a couple names are starting to get mentioned around the uh subject of like but who who would run if biden finally takes the fucking hint for the democratic nomination one of these i don't think i had
Starting point is 00:11:51 heard the name like two weeks ago pritzker bubbling up never and then and then there's the gavin newsom of it all so we're just gonna check in so just let them know we got our eye on on them so that this is an update on a story i'm almost positive we talked about this shit this conservative dude who claimed that someone painted like joe biden 2020 and the anarchy sign on his garage and we were like yo that is nobody has ever done that that's impossible it's impossible for those two impulses to exist anyways that person was found out to be a fraud engaging and yeah we're gonna talk about the jr15 and ar15 for kids that is real somehow we're gonna talk about starbucks fucking around in the chicken
Starting point is 00:12:45 sandwich wars plenty more but first harry did not go well didn't go well for starbucks not surprising we don't need more people in the arms race for chicken there's like three spots we'll get into it but i'm yeah exactly more we don't need to keep your union busting ass out of this yeah but before we get to any of that shit zig we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history oh uh well it speaks to the my gripes with capitalism is uh will paying credit card bill early increase your credit score i i took a hit uh for 50 points like my credit's trash has always been trash but like i mysteriously took a hit for 50 like maybe like 50's trash. It's always been trash, but I mysteriously took a hit for 50, maybe not
Starting point is 00:13:26 50, maybe like 30 points the other week. I'm desperately just trying to get up to somewhere good. I just want to see that little needle go to just towards the green just a little bit. It's been red for so long. I can't even. You want your capitalism e-meter reading? Yeah, I get my capitalism feedings up
Starting point is 00:13:41 to a good level. You need to be a level three consumer to get that. We can work on that, man. Would you like some DLC I can download to get to this or what? It is wild that somebody was just like, hey, we're going to create a grade that is just like grading you as a capitalist. Yeah. And we're going to make billions of dollars doing it and have access to all your information.
Starting point is 00:14:04 And when you do good, your score goes down. And we're going to make billions of dollars doing it and have access to all your information. And when you do good, your score goes down. If you pay off a loan, guess what? Your score is going down, baby, because we said so. Yeah. Makes sense. Whoa, whoa. You're paying that off way too quick.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Yeah, yeah. No, you need to be stuck. You need to be shackled to us. That's the whole point. Did you ever figure out how you got the 50 point hit or was it just i think some of those student loans started uh sort of hit some duck collectors i think that's what right that's what happened baby and look all it takes to have a 600 level credit score and be emmy nominated is to go into crippling debt it's uh it's great guys yeah it's all you need mutually exclusive yeah what is uh what's something you think is underrated? Underrated.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Oh, you know what? This is, I think I'm, I don't know if I've said this before, but like not having a take on something that you're uninformed about. Like I, nothing's better than just shutting up and not speaking and opening your mouth
Starting point is 00:14:58 about any type of subject. Particularly if you have no, no investment in, or you don't know what's going on. Like my favorite thing to do when I see online discourse is not engaged because I you don't know what's going on. My favorite thing to do when I see online discourse is not engage because I have no take on what's going on. No one needs to hear my thought on it. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:15:10 I want to be clean and free. I'm not going to add any fuel to the garbage pile. I don't want to give anyone any little bit. Take an inch, they take a mile. I don't want any excuse to get dragged. I don't need it. I don't look for it. I mean, Zig, I see you move on Twitter. You have
Starting point is 00:15:27 opinions, man. Yeah, but they're always like Goku can beat up Vegeta or like this is the coolest robot ever. Actual real things. Based off all cops or bastards. Things that are pretty undeniable. We're talking science.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Yeah, science. You can do the mixture you can see that what some of you think is overrated most online discourse revolving around film like film twitter brings me such uh such psych it radiates such psychic immense psychic damage to me uh i have to watch another person yell at someone else for like liking a movie like i just can't do it it's no it means nothing guys like let them enjoy the thing let them if they want to watch transformer six who gives a shit like it no one's getting out of this thing alive like just enjoy it guys yeah you know when did you die okay because i feel like this is an evolution all people have like because and i'll speak for myself right i was like a very opinionated film kid yeah from around 12 years old just by virtue of growing up in la my mom being a film critic so
Starting point is 00:16:33 i had fucking opinions yeah then college i became in fucking sufferable like with i would be like no turn this off like this is so direct like just so pretentious. And then around, I think maybe like my, maybe to like late twenties, like I heard my, I heard like out loud, like how I was talking about something. And I was like, this is such a waste of energy that like I became embarrassed for myself. And I was just like, this is actually not even useful to anybody except my ego. Yeah. I was the exact same way. Like I remember in film school, like this, these are, these like, these are the films, the cinema you need to watch.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Right. And then I got older. I was like, you know, who gives a shit? Yeah, I want to watch the 36 Chambers of Shaolin. That's just as much fun as watching The Bicycle Thief or whatever. Right. Or The 400 Blues. Like, who gives a shit?
Starting point is 00:17:21 Yeah. And I think probably all the star wars like just loser star wars fans that had shit to say like the last couple years i was like oh my god this is so stupid just let the fuck it like trust me i had issues with some of the films but i don't give a fuck enough when we have so much other shit going on yeah i'm like like yeah like i'm gonna give the country three more president elections before it collapses. So I'm like, you know what? Who cares? Enjoy your Justice League Snyder Cut.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Who gives a shit? Like, we'll have plenty of time to bicker about the Snyder Cut when we're in forced labor camps for a political reason. Yeah, yeah. We're in the camps outside Lejeune. We'll have plenty of time to argue about whether who shot first, Han or Greedo. Yeah. greta yeah i i like the main thing i'm interested in hearing is like people who are like calling out movies that are secretly like much better than we gave them credit for like that's the only use i have for critics now and i can't even think of an example the way that the ideas are
Starting point is 00:18:21 communicated right when it's like i'm dunking on you because you're stupid and you don't know this about film then i'm like this you're losing me but like to the to your point if it's like there's something that isn't discussed enough i think it's really just about the presentation when people come with their chests out it's like yeah i think the energy like having like just a little nugget of kindness but hey i want to this is the thing that i watch that i really enjoy i think other people would enjoy i think that's the energy I'm looking for these days. I mean, most online discourse is poisonous to begin with, but the need to dunk and roast and just drag people,
Starting point is 00:18:54 it's exhausting after seeing it for so long. You're just like, man, maybe just come in with some nice energy. Maybe that's what we need. Maybe that's what people need for online discourse. Kindness. Kindness. Who would have thought will it win yeah no it's not but you know good to have that energy jack did you did you ever have like a just like a weird film take that you were really like charged up about like in your in your younger days when you're like that devoted too much energy to that film. Like an anti, like a negative take?
Starting point is 00:19:29 Were you an evangelical or were you a hater? I was always interested in talking about movies that I was really into, even if they were dumb. I like talking about movies. I like to read movie reviews, but I didn't ever have like a this is trash i had more of a uh die hard four is just as good as die hard three and die hard to take or like the jaws sequels have more value than people give them credit for i almost got in a fight because i insisted walk
Starting point is 00:20:03 hard was one of the worst films ever made the dewey cox story huh the dewey cox yeah that's so funny and like and like in hindsight i was like it's kind of funny but at that time i was i thought i had like not even a third eye like a fourth and fifth eye opened up for cinema i was like this is so such a waste of energy like i don't know what the fuck i what i was going i mean i was going through a breakup at the time i know exactly what's going on so i just hated everything but i remember everyone was like yo this is like this is too much but anyway shout out to those old times what about you did you ever film like you rode too hard for or or against in that era i mean yeah it's i mean
Starting point is 00:20:47 i when i tell you i thought the first transformer movie transformers music was so fucking good this movie is great it's got great action it's got great pacing it looks fantastic all the actors are banging and then i re-watched it like maybe like two weeks later with a friend like halfway through i was like oh this movie i think is a piece of shit like there's only like there's only like two action scenes like it's also like like like there's a one point like a robot pisses on like john taturo i'm like this is right stupid like this is like robo excrement can we explain that or no i'll say that's that is the one place that i will be like real harsh and start like shitting on a movie is if i have like like if it tricked me like forest gump when i saw it when i was 12 i was like this movie is just all americana and then i wrote an
Starting point is 00:21:35 after hours episode about forest gump and it was the meanest i've ever been to a movie in any format and i think justifiably so i think that's one of the like most harmful movies about american history that's ever been made but yeah that went when it's like ah you got me you son of a bitch then i'll probably have a little bit more of an edge on me i just couldn't get off my fucking high horse with stuff that's why like i look back i'm like you really tried to make to make your shit known by going hard at Walk Hard. Yeah. What?
Starting point is 00:22:11 Guys, Miles really fucking took down Dewey Cox in this. You should read his newsletter. He's got some thoughts. Yeah, exactly. Check out his YouTube page. I don't think he's going to watch it. how much do you think just the mood you're in going into a movie determines like what whether it's a four star versus like a one star or two star experience i think that has has everything it has everything to do with it and i feel that's why i'm like not interested in reviews is like i'm
Starting point is 00:22:39 just like yo you were having a bad day man like that's how i feel about movies when i'm having a bad day like i say also like i think my version i said the inverse of that is like going in thinking something's going to be a complete piece of shit and then you watch it you're like all right this is like fine so i think that's where i got a lot of like my three out of five three out of five stars would come like oh i came in i think it's going to be absolute dog shit and it's just like a fine movie so now i'm just like yeah you should go see this movie it's it's like because you started at a negative one it yeah four star rendered it to just a three out of five basically it's like i burned one star overcoming my like preconceived notions yeah like the energy thing i'll just i don't know if i'm
Starting point is 00:23:19 putting a bow on it but like in high school i remember getting so mad at somebody acting like they were too good to see anger management that i put him to sleep and i like i choked him out because i was like i was going like a friend of yours you wanted to go to see anger management no like no like he was like yo i was i saw anger management over the weekend she was so bad i walked out and i said oh you're a real tough guy huh and i just like jumped weekend. She was so bad. I walked out and I said, oh, you're a real tough guy, huh? And I just like jumped on him. It was so like, this is me at my worst aggro, like, you know, parents splitting up. I don't know who the fuck I am phase. I mean, we're cool now, but it was just, again, a moment where my mood, even just with my
Starting point is 00:23:57 life. Oh, you're a real tough guy, huh? Yeah. It was unbelievable. Like, I look back and I'm like yeah i'm like oh you think that's oh you think you better than anger management like what oh my god yeah look i've done a lot of growth a lot of healing post post anger management that was one of like five movies in my film my career as a film critic for the georgetown hoya that was that was one of the
Starting point is 00:24:21 films i reviewed and somebody got mad at me for being too nice to it. They were like, this movie's not good? What's wrong with you? I'm like, pfft. That was probably me. Oh, tough guy, huh? Me and you were just going back and forth, beating the shit out of this guy. Over eight or minutes.
Starting point is 00:24:40 You know that there's no way you're going to tuck yourself out of a situation that begins with, oh, you're a tough guy. That or like, hey, what's up, big fella? You of a situation that begins with, oh, you're a tough guy. That or like, hey, what's up, big fella? Like, you're never getting out of that. Oh, you're a tough guy, huh? Like, even to this day, I remember it happened in the band room. Okay, this is right before marching band practice kicked off.
Starting point is 00:24:57 And one of my homeboys to this day still talks about going, oh, you're a tough guy, huh? Like, he knows we referenced that moment because it was just like everyone's like what is wrong with you he's talking shit about anger management oh he said the second act didn't work oh my man can spend the money to go to amc and then walk out too okay so you're not like wow okay money bags okay let's see what that windpipe do. Where was I? Such a great movie to reveal your anger management issues about. It was just too, look, 16, 17-year-old Miles was not doing great. I want to see Miles Rumbler's background and just see a giant poster of it behind his head. Yeah, and a bunch of fist-sized holes in the drywall.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Yeah. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted just like mine. Through powerful in-depth interviews with former members and new chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive me for I have followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden.
Starting point is 00:26:57 We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties
Starting point is 00:27:20 you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote, what is it, like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:27:52 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been
Starting point is 00:28:34 so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:29:32 Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. In the segregation academies, when civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. you have to be ready for serious backlash listen to rebel spirit on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and all right so it like the big news of the past couple weeks nobody wants joe biden to run like it's like 13 percent of the people are like yeah i guess he could run again everyone else like no man go go away yeah unless you're part of the 92 percent or whatever was
Starting point is 00:30:22 trending on twitter a couple of days ago there's like sort of a background conversation in those articles where they start like bringing up Kamala and like, well, you know, kind of mentioning her as the presumptive replacement, which I think would also not go very well. Maybe. No one's interested in either of these two. I mean, you guys know, like we were so uninterested in inverting for them in the first place. You know, we were just like, oh, fuck. It's like then we'll deal with you later anyways the the mainstream media is starting to pay attention to a couple people so i just wanted to like kind of put their names on the podcast uh get initial thoughts gavin newsom kind of makes sense as a mainstream pick mainstream media like he's somebody who they've just like had their eye on i feel like the the mainstream democratic party and he's getting some attention he went to dc and was talking
Starting point is 00:31:34 shit about red states and feels like he's like i'm here for it i'll i'll talk shit about republicans i'm a fighter and then there's j J.B. Pritzker, who... The name sounds like he has a company town, you know? Right. And he probably does or at least lives off of wealth generated from a company town because he is heir to the Hyatt fortune. It's probably worth like three point something billion dollars. fortune it's probably worth like three point something billion dollars but like he once he reached office as he's the governor of illinois i think once he reached office he like started doing like started like spouting some socialist talking points and actually doing i mean not
Starting point is 00:32:20 really socialist as much as just like what democrats should be doing yeah like the the bare minimum of what democrats should be doing and people are like whoa he's got his he's got his eye on the presidency he's actually doing stuff whoa low bar though considering what like four out of the last eight or nine governors of illinois been Yeah. So, I don't know. The Gawker published a thing that was like the, you know, we're endorsing billionaire socialist J.B. Pritzker. They were joking, but they did, like, half of the article was like, but he's, like, doing a pretty good job and, like, seems to, like, take these talking points seriously.
Starting point is 00:33:03 They did also point out he is a billionaire who loves money enough to have had all of the toilets removed from his mansion to get out of paying taxes on his mansion. Yeah. It's uninhabitable, man. There's no toilets. That was the,
Starting point is 00:33:16 that was the logic there when an assessor came. Oh, you ain't got no toilets yet. I can't live here probably. Huh? So that means this place, I don't have to pay that extra $2,000 of whatever a year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:26 He ended up having to pay like 300 grand anyway. But I don't know. It is one of those things, right? Like it's funny too, that Newsome and Pritzker are mentioned at the same time because Gavin Newsome, right? Like his, his family is like tight with the Gettys because his dad and the Gettys were like, his dad like facilitated like that, like kidnapping payment to be made. Like, oh, really?
Starting point is 00:33:51 Oh, yeah. That's how like. So Gavin Newsom's like already in with the Gettys. It is all fucking nepotism all the way down. And to add to that, right, the Pritzkers are big in california politics and because of his proximity to the gettys gavin newsom's rise to like power also involves the pritzkers backing him too i thought you're gonna be like and pritzker was the one who kidnapped yeah no but like they you know like they were like some of the first like you know upper, upper crust California elites to like give their like, you know, sign off on Gavin Newsom.
Starting point is 00:34:28 So it's all like in this same world. But yeah, I'm curious, like, is it going to be is Pritzker? Can he be the true sort of class traitor that we would need for for people to be like, oh, it's not odious to have like a billionaire there? Like, oh, it's not odious to have like a billionaire there. And I get it. Like when you look at the politics that like he's actually put into play, like putting the putting the state of Illinois, like on like being, I think, almost fully on renewables by 2050. And like minimum wage and getting rid of cash bail and like expunging all those like cannabis charges and things like that. I get that.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Like people are like, well, he does all the things that he said he'd do, which makes you more sad for what a Democrat is. Because Republicans are like, yo, all that racist Nazi, like theocratic shit. They're doing that shit when they get in. Whereas Democrats are like, yeah, I feel like people deserve a living wage. And even with him, he came out said biden wasn't doing enough when the dobs decision came down that overturned roe yeah so i think like in those in those in that in those ways yes he looks much better than the field for sure i also like the fact like as super producer justin is pointing out like newsome looks like matthew mcconaughey's better looking cousin like he just like looks like he, or like, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:45 he's like very, yeah, very Bateman. He looks like he was created in a lab to be an equal politician in a movie. Like he's like the, he's like the bad mayor and like RoboCop five. Like that's what, that's very much the energy that he looks and radiates with.
Starting point is 00:35:59 I feel like that's part of the reason he's even at this, like being mentioned, right. Yeah. You know, or that he's at this point in his career and you don't you don't have that shit with jb i will say we gotta run as far away just from the optics he just based off of the tim robinson i think you should leave logic he has slicked back hair yeah he's a real piece of shit a real piece of shit with slicked back hair i don't and i think there's also because
Starting point is 00:36:26 of that i think it would instantly energize more conservatives like already he's hated by california republicans yeah you know like for their own reasons like you know whatever you can debate what those are on its own but like it like when you put that on a national stage, like, he reads, like, greasy lib guy instantly. So, whereas Pritzker, like, in a lot of these write-ups that they point to, like, dude, this guy talks like he's from the Midwest. He doesn't, like, he doesn't seem all, like, I went to, like, you know, the Ivy League and is condescending. He looks like shit. Like, he just looks like shit, man. He looks like he, like, is sleeping he just looks like shit, man. Yeah. He looks like he like just is sleeping one off.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Yeah. Yeah. It looks like how like classic world leaders used to look before they entry as television, like just sloppy pieces of shit. Like you feel like he has like a, a corned beef hash in like his front breast pocket. Like that's the energy I think I'm looking for visually in a,
Starting point is 00:37:20 in a leader right now, if they're going to be a gross capitalist, like at least look the part, like don't look like you're... Or who's that dude from Popeye who always wants the hamburgers? Yeah. Was it Pluto? What's his name?
Starting point is 00:37:33 Yeah. That kind of vibe. That feels like disarming. I feel like to American people. You like hamburgers, man. So what if he's caping for the socialist stuff? I need someone that looks like I can beat them in a foot race. That's the energy I'm looking for in my politicians at this point, I think.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what's interesting about that Gawker write up too, is they're like, they're like, yeah, look,
Starting point is 00:37:53 there's clearly like from even like progressives in Illinois, they were like sort of stunned that he made good on a lot of these promises and things like that. And to like point about the meme ability, they're saying it's like they kind of need an element of fun like to back a candidate if you know for right or wrong not to say that i don't like they're even saying like we're not going full blown for president here but they're saying like there's an element of having a character like that that kind of makes it easy for people to be like yeah man fucking yeah i mean hamburger guy again like i think that's why a lot of people i mean people also like just a lot of racist and fascists
Starting point is 00:38:29 out there but like i think one of the reasons people latch on to trump so much is that like he's a funny guy like he i hate to say it but like he is funny like it's like in the in the when you're going through it it's not very funny but like like the tweet that he had the other day about elon musk or like i guess not whatever like the fascist version of like twitter is like that i was like it's funny like hey it's a funny it's very funny like i hate to say it out loud but like the way that's written it's very funny like yeah like that's a shit post yeah like great you know he's figured it out i'm like that's why it's like because then last year we had to be like biden is a fucking dried up pumice stone wearing a suit.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Who probably doesn't know where he's at. Like he's probably lost. Yeah, exactly. And in our minds, there was no fun. It was the threat of fascism that was like, yeah, fuck it. This guy. It was never like, ha ha, Joe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:27 joe yeah like it was i distinctly remember that like uh end of end of the empire strikes back or end of revenge of the jedi whatever when like the death star blows up and everyone's celebrating across the universe like that's very much like la like demi dancing on top of that car for eight hours or like for a guy that we didn't even actually want to vote for like that's the end that's much pressure we were under just right exactly yeah well speaking of guy we didn't actually want to vote for and there was absolutely zero energy out there for him let's talk about the uh the scandal around dennis mola's camper being set on fire and his garage defaced yeah i mean september of 2020 this man in minnesota said i can't believe what happened okay i'm just going to read from this uh washington post article or yeah it says when dennis vladimirovich mola told authorities that his camper was set on fire in his garage to face
Starting point is 00:40:21 the minnesota man said that whoever carried out the attack was motivated by the Trump 2020 flag he had displayed from his vehicle. As pictures circulated of a vandalized garage door in September 2020 that was spray painted with Biden 2020, BLM, and an anarchy symbol. Mullah then collected thousands of dollars for the reported arson through his insurance company and online donations. It just shocked me, he told the local news after the incident. This kind of stuff should not happen, especially over beliefs of some sort. But prosecutors have concluded almost two years later that Mola staged the entire incident.
Starting point is 00:41:03 No shit. Who would have thought? care to revise your bullshit story i mean wow and like he's being charged with wire fraud filing fraudulent insurance claims benefiting from online fundraisers from the fake arson so i mean here's the thing like i get that we all live in our socio-political bubbles but like where is this magical biden supporter and like y'all i get that on fox news you're constantly just hearing blood libel about like democrats and how progressives want to eat the dead of like children and all this other weird shit to make people sound completely inhumane and dehumanize them uh we've seen this playbook play out before but like to then just
Starting point is 00:41:45 be like yeah it's a loose smattering of biden blm and anarchy and that's yeah that's a real suspect the profilers are going to know exactly who this person yeah i mean that's when you really just got to do a google search like what are the kids talking about these days i was like black lab matter they fucking hate biden anarchistsists hate everyone. Have synergy, man. Just make sure form follows function. That's what you got to do. The guy that pretended that someone wrote Black's Rule across his
Starting point is 00:42:13 driveway, no one's saying that. Come on. Wasn't one of them just like Crips, too? Yeah. It was Crips and Cive like it was like so weird just like penmanship yeah it was i like just the mysterious case of the old man with the blacks rule oh man yeah also i just can't even picture somebody using spray paint to paint Biden 2020 anywhere. Like,
Starting point is 00:42:47 yeah, I feel like you, I feel like you just like go, go to the Biden campaign and get like permitting to do that. Like you don't have to elicitly voice your support for Biden 2020. Like that is the most like, yeah, just put a bumper sticker on your car.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Like the rest of them do that's enough it's like the shit that you see gets spray painted is shit like a cap okay yeah that's not but not this shit like biden 2020 and blm too many letters i could get it too if they just left out the anarchy symbol you might have something because we in 2020, a lot of libs went full kente cloth on us. And, you know, we're like, hey, I don't know what black liberation is, but I'm going to pretend I know what it is. We had a solid three months where they really pretended to care. Yeah, exactly. I'm like, that seems feasible almost.
Starting point is 00:43:40 But then you threw the anarchy and now you've created a comic book character. As Kenny Loggins said, he didn't know when to fold them. He put too much in. but then you threw the anarchy and now you've created a comic book character yeah he did as kenny logan said he didn't know when to fold him he went he put too much in like i think he just had too many hats he was wearing too many hats that was a hat on a hat too much dip on your chips or yeah all of those things happening once but yeah which is wild because this is all like as this happens and like republicans are constantly trying to find ways to say like we are the actual victims here. They're doing shit just like this against the backdrop right now where the party just voted like unanimously as a block. They voted against like an amendment to a bill that would have the Pentagon like analyze and propose solutions to like ferreting out like Nazis in the military.
Starting point is 00:44:24 And they're all like we're all against that every single republican house voted against that and then like right after that nearly all of them also voted against a house bill that would like help state and local governments create like an amber alert type system for when they're active shooter situations just so there's like better communication between the public 168 of them were like nah no we don't need that no yeah they're like look let's be real the only victims that they're creating are like innocent people innocent american people that want nothing to do with you know put their policies on but miles do you remember when we first launched this show
Starting point is 00:44:58 and it was like hurricane harvey i think had just hit crew yeah and and there was this like facebook group called the Houston loot crew or something like that like some street in Houston loot crew and it was just like the most the worst creative writing by like a clearly like you know middle-aged white dude trying to write as like you know a you know houston gang member and it was it was like very embarrassing and transparent but it was also like giving like putting down it was very dangerous you know it's like putting down a a logic to just murder people on site when all the power and, you know, everything was out in this entire city. Like that's, it's just like embarrassingly uncreative excuses for fascism.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Harvey Luke crew. That's what, cause it was hurricane Harvey. Yeah. Yeah. And it was like the same person had done that in a previous hurricane. And like you could see the similarities. And it even happened in Sandy. Like it's just, it's like a racist trope that occurs, which is white people pretending to be black people and just telling on themselves in like four dimensions. Right. It's truly, yeah. And this, this feels like a, you know, shorter version, less wordy version of that failure at a creative writing i think it speaks to how you know white people believe the judicial system will move against like black people like it's like
Starting point is 00:46:32 i need to just do this thing like graffiti and vandalism and then put like these align it with these buzzwords that will code it as being black and then like and then everyone's going to be like yeah i know that's right obviously they dropped a kendrick lamar cd then you know where to go we found this at the scene officer they say it's heat i don't know officer what they're saying but they wouldn't know how to say that i mean he's like i don't know they're saying's gas, but I checked my tank and it's full. So they didn't they didn't siphon the gas. I don't know what they mean, though.
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Starting point is 00:51:23 And we're back. And so this is something that people apparently knew about i might have known about it but like i just i think it's just hitting my brain different now that there's been the uvalde mass shooting they are selling something called a jr15 that is an ar15 for kids like jr like junior it's like the the ad jr15 get them one like yours smaller safer lighter the barrel like is silver like it makes it look more fun and then there's like little cartoon drawings of like a skull with a pacifier it truly it looks like bad satire and it is real it's real like i almost got mad at our writer jam i was like dude you fell for fake satire and it's like no reddit meme this is gun this is what gun magazines are
Starting point is 00:52:20 yeah i mean the logo itself like you know again this isn't these aren't built with actual children in mind these are built to appeal to parents who don't give a fuck and want to like upset everybody by buying it because like do some light market research let me tell you some kids don't want to be seen as fucking babies okay i even remember that shit the last thing i wanted to be aligned with was baby culture and so like this like skull and crossbones of like pacifier with pigtails like skull and then like even like the one that i guess is male has like a fucking mohawk and like a missing eye that's like a crosshair yeah i'm just noticing they have targets for this is wild yeah this shit is like i'm like that's that's
Starting point is 00:53:05 not for kids but again and none of it is because i don't think many kids are being like dad when do i get my assault rifle for baby yeah press release for the gun claims is 20 smaller than a regular ar-15 and has added safety measures but it still operates just like mom and dad's gun and like so the this product was launched back in january at a gun show immediately sparked criticism obviously but it's being sold it's being marketed in a magazine called junior shooters and this is like we we have a uh one of the covers in the doc here zay i don't know if you can see it but it's got a like six-year-old girl with a gun on her belt just like crazy smiling and juniors stand up for gun rights is like the one one of the headlines forward movement. Like it's all about getting guns in kids' hands. Jack,
Starting point is 00:54:08 I get it. Like you're, I can see why, Oh, this is like fake satire made from like, you know, a hard drive or whatever. One of those like aggregate.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Yeah. Right. This is crazy. It looks like, it kind of looks like shit too. It doesn't look good. It's just a giant red block that says Shot Show 2014. Like, what is this?
Starting point is 00:54:27 What's wild is you go to their website right now, and it says the first thing when you go to their website, it says, due to California bill, AB2571 Junior Shooters is no longer available to juniors under 18 from the state of California. If you are a minor in California, please do not continue. Otherwise, welcome to junior shooters.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Yeah. The Newsome bill actually like, so the, the existence of this gun caused Newsome to pass some legislation prohibiting marketing of firearms to minors. Yeah. I mean, good call because this, this stuff is just straight trash. How is that only popular in California?
Starting point is 00:55:10 Yeah. Seems like it should be pretty popular anywhere, man. I mean, you look at this, even the website and the content of the magazine, it's like there's like a kid on the cover and then you open it up and it's a bunch of like boomers and like Gen X militia people who are like, yeah, kids, check out the ghost holster like what the fuck but again you know it's not it's not really for kids just propaganda trying to normalize the shit to them there's an ad make dad jealous for less than 300 you can own an authentic 1911 reproduction in in 22LR and spend the day shooting and improving your skills without emptying dad's wallet.
Starting point is 00:55:49 I like that the idea that this little girl is going to buy a 1911 with her like paper route money. Like she's going to ask her parents to give her money for this. Yeah. She, the little girl looks to be about all of seven years old in the ad and she's holding up a target where she like. She's got to get a bullet through yeah i know she's very impressive actually yeah but yeah this isn't the first time gun manufacturers have tried to make guns specifically for kids uh but this is like more aggressively targeting kids with a product that's explicitly a starter ar-15 i don't know like
Starting point is 00:56:22 people i guess people knew this existed i just i can't like the the fact that it's not the first time gun makers have been marketing guns for kids i'd put under the category of like not helping their argument like as much as they think it might be like this feels like this feels like what gun control advocates should be focusing on is like not that gun control is about putting locks on guns so kids don't get at them like they're not they're trying to get kids to get at guns they're trying to put guns in kids hands they want you to make your dad jealous with your guns that you can't buy it very much has the same energy as like the old like when stones were
Starting point is 00:57:05 like you know he would just smoke a marlboro went through like yeah it feels so good well like velma like that's very much the energy that this has yeah we need to be foying all gun companies like internal records just anonymous needs to be hacking the shit out of them so we see like how they talk like look at how i want to know how they talk about mass shootings and the deaths of children as a result of their weapons like we've seen some but like we like that needs to be a national campaign it's unacceptable and part of me just feels like i don't know man because like i remember seeing like the first time i saw like multi-colored Like, I remember seeing, like, the first time I saw, like, multicolored tiny guns for kids, like, years ago.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I'm thinking back to, like, remember they would have, like, pink long rifles for, like, little girls and stuff? Yeah, exactly. And, like, this is daddy's first gun or whatever that he'd give to his kid. Right. Yeah, get your first M1911. Hey, it's not a.45 like dad's. It's a.22, so your little hands can handle it. Like, what the fuck? Yeah, we can move up from squirrels.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Right. But yeah, I think just I honestly then just shows like this whole like the way they're even just trying to get at Pete like these kids just like the gun brained parents who just feel like, oh, yeah, this is a cute thing. My kid likes because I was saying I don't think this was even on mic when I was talking about it. But, like, you know, I grew up with a lot of kids whose parents were, like, big into guns. Like, they grew up getting guns for their birthdays. So many of my friends like that, they are, the last thing they want to do is interact with guns.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Like, even though they were raised in it, they're like, yeah, man, this shit just, it's a little too, like, grim now. And, like, and I'm like, what about about you can take your kids shooting or anything like that and they're like nah like it's just just it just feels too dark these days like to be handling guns like around kids and shit it just doesn't not adding up in my brain so i mean who knows how these these kids end up as a little socialist rifle association members right wait that so that was in california just a lot of like kids getting guns for their birth i mean i know i mean because you know they have a lot of transplant kids like i had like i have family like friends whose like parents were like you know like in law enforcement or firefighting and stuff like that or like parents like their parents
Starting point is 00:59:20 were veterans and stuff like vietnam veterans and things like that so it was just a little bit like and then growing up like in Georgia a non-vet and then you know you just take that culture with you to California I think most of the stuff I'm from North Carolina for those who are keeping up most of it was for hunting for around us it was like oh I got I got Billy his first hunting rifle we can start small with the squirrel and then move up to deer whenever we're hunting it comes around. Right. I think in California it's like, here's your Glock. Like, oh! Here, keep that thing on you.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Yeah, exactly. Don't get caught lacking out there. Like, you know, let them know you with the shits. Like, oh, okay. Well, speaking of being caught lacking, let's talk about Starbucks' chicken sandwich. It absolutely did not have that thing on them. Did not.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Yeah, they fucked around with the chicken sandwich wars and found out in a very big way. First of all, did anybody know that Starbucks had a chicken sandwich? No, I would say that's how you know the war wasn't even a war. I'm just finding out right now. I can't imagine. They run into a gunfight, so to speak. All right. So this is the chicken, maple butter, okay, so far, and egg sandwich.
Starting point is 01:00:33 It was like a breakfast biscuit type thing they were trying to go for. But chicken and egg is a weird combo, isn't it? I don't know if I've ever had that combo. In Japan, we have a name for it called oyakodonburi, which means like parent and child. When you put like egg and chicken meat in a rice bowl. Yeah, maybe that's what it is. It's just there's something about it for me. It's just like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Too cruel. Too cruel. Too cruel. Yeah. Well, okay. So first of all, the reason nobody found out about it is that it was like grand opening, grand closing within five days. The shit dropped. People started eating it and they said they pulled it because of what they called quality concerns.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Now in today, USA Today, the way they report it was the shit tasted so bad. People thought they were poisoned. the shit tasted so bad people thought they were poisoned this is quote unverified reports on social media claim the sandwich made some people sick the crowd-sourced website iwaspoisoned.com which is dedicated to tracking foodborne illness outbreaks and credited with helping identify several outbreaks logged five claims the sandwich made customers feel ill, at least temporarily. Now, Starbucks was like unequivocal. They're like, nah, that's a bullshit. Our food is so fucked up and overcooked and over processed. There's no organic material that could ever cause like ever lead to bacterial growth.
Starting point is 01:01:58 The way they say is that the sandwich was, quote, cooked, frozen, shipped, then reheated for the participant for customers at the location. A process that they say could shut out foodborne illnesses. So I'm like, oh, there you have it. You just you got like a just droopy, sad, reheated microwave chicken. Frozen chicken sandwiches sounds like. Yeah. I mean, what did you expect? They don't have I don't think they have deep fryers at starbucks that's like step one to a fried chicken anything but what the fuck do i
Starting point is 01:02:33 know for your money not to cause a big thing but for your money what's the who's like who like top three who's who's top three in the chicken sandwich game right now oh i mean popeyes is nailed on that's like easy yeah you know if i if i were because i'm a bit of a more conscious consumer i mean i'll have to put chick-fil-a in there but i can't really get down with giving them my money and you know i had the mcdonald's one that wasn't bad it doesn't it doesn't have the same crunch fact the thing is the popeyes one has the crunch fact you know you know who low-key has i from i mean for my money the best burger can't no kfc the spicy kfc chicken sandwich i haven't tried it yet it's it's it's got it it's it's i think it's tied up with popeyes that makes sense wow tied up it's their name i'm saying like it's good it's got it i i think they
Starting point is 01:03:23 definitely have like the motivation. It was embarrassing for them when Popeyes came out and was like, yeah, ours is like by far better than anything that you've ever offered. Yeah. All right. I got to go get the KFC one. All right. Be right back. And they're young brains too, man. This episode's over.
Starting point is 01:03:40 But yeah, I think it's just like one of those those things too, is like, start like you're drunk. Starbucks, go home. You're trying to get in the chicken sandwich and like a cake pop. Maybe if I'm, if I'm at a store, I'll eat one of those. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:53 I've, those are time. Those feel under, I know every single time. I'm like, yo, y'all did not cook this. This is filled with cake batter or what have you done?
Starting point is 01:04:02 I remember the first time I had them, I go, is this glue? And then I was like, oh, no, it's fine. And let's just say the bar is pretty fucked up for the food there. Like the sous vide egg bite, that was like one of the times I had something. I was like, yeah, okay, maybe. But other than that, in my mind, I would never eat, subject my body to Starbucks.
Starting point is 01:04:19 No, if they have a banana, that's as risky as I'm going. I'll take a piece of fruit from Starbucks. I don't want anything that's required. Or maybe like a kind bar in a wrapper. Yeah. Your bananas are boiled, frozen, transported from a distance, dry. And reanimated for your enjoyment. Reanimated.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Cursed at Hursley. Yeah. I mean, there's your problem, right? the yeah i mean there's a problem right is like that there's nothing that could conceivably be food in there really like food the way people want it like the way that they described that it's just like oh so it was more of a you know phenomenological problem it was it was problem. It was how people experienced it and felt so bad they got sick. Metaphysically, this sandwich was making people sick metaphysically
Starting point is 01:05:12 on an existential level. Their spirits were not fucking with it on the astral plane. Yeah. But no germs, so we're good there. Exactly. And now watch. I'll be i'll probably i'll be outside of a starbucks and watch somebody eat one of those and they're like man this shit is
Starting point is 01:05:30 terrible and i'm like oh i've got a tough guy over here oh it's that same guy you smash it it had to be you it had to be you god man wait to be you. God, man. Wait, you think he still remembers that? That person definitely still remembers. He does. I think that sticks with you. Yeah. It was terrible. I apologize profusely. It was like I knew the error of my ways the second it was happening.
Starting point is 01:05:54 I was like, what? You know, it's like I felt like a supervillain when you killed your child or something. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just like, what? It's like looking at my own hands. It's like it at my own hands. Couldn't have been me.
Starting point is 01:06:09 It's in the anime when the good guy goes too far and the fight's like, what have I become? Exactly. Well, Cody, it has been a true pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Thanks for having me. If you want to find me,
Starting point is 01:06:26 I'm on all them social medias at yayforzig. I guess I just have two, Instagram and Twitter. Those are the only two that I'm actually on, but check those out if you want to find me.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Those are the only ones that matter. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes. I'm a big fan,
Starting point is 01:06:44 for those that follow me of uh of shitpost shirts and i found one the other day it's it was from uh at underscore eric curtain e-r-i-c-c-u-t c-u-r-t-i-n it says i realized i just wore this during a zoom interview and it's a picture of kermit in a cowboy hat that says on the outside i I'm hooting on the inside. I'm hollering. And I immediately went and bought that shirt. So I was, I saw that same tweet. I was like, yo,
Starting point is 01:07:10 that's a great shirt. Like I wouldn't, when I tell you that I sent it to two group chats and everyone in the group chat bought the shirt. So it's worth working. Miles, where can people find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:07:22 Twitter, Instagram at miles of gray. If you like basketball, check out, please check out our basketball podcast miles and jack got mad boost had cj toledano on and the episode that just dropped yesterday uh and also check out for 20 day fiance if you like 90 day fiance and weed and want to hear me talk about that nonsense uh some tweets i like first one is from meg watson at miss meg watson tweeted the new instagram update really understood what i was looking for none of my friends content reposted tiktoks from meme accounts i do not follow a hundred times more ads and everything
Starting point is 01:07:55 played at full volume against my will yeah this shit is i don't even recognize it uh and it is something it's clearly just trying to be like, hey, you know TikTok? We got some of that stuff over here, too. It's just like, come on now. We got TikTok at home. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we got TikTok at home. IG.
Starting point is 01:08:13 You're like, mm-mm, no. And then at Javroar, J-A-V-R-O-A-R, tweeted this picture. It said PB&J glizzy. And it is a banana in a hot dog bun with peanut butter and jelly as the condiments i mean that's i liked it i'm here for it i thought it was absurd like reading the word pb and j glizzy and then you look at it you're like yeah oh yeah that works this all makes sense yeah this all makes sense for me personally i might do Nutella Cause you know sometimes I like Nutella Nutella instead of the jelly
Starting point is 01:08:48 Oh shit That's a great idea That's a great idea Miles Toast that bun a little bit Oh a brioche A brioche hot dog Okay I see you
Starting point is 01:09:03 Sorry to my doctor in advance Let's see you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien i liked i like this uh emily atkin tweeted a tiktok video but it's maybe my favorite tiktok video i've ever seen it's just somebody ranking the five hottest birds that might be a very old thing but it's the top five hottest birds in the sky and they a two minute long video and they absolutely kill it uh let me find the tiktok person's name it is paris nicholson at par Paris Nicholson on TikTok. Go watch their Top 5 Hottest Birds. It's a work of art. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
Starting point is 01:09:51 We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song that we think you might enjoy uh miles what song do we think people might enjoy this is just some reggae you know it's friday you want to start your weekend off right this and with a good message the track's called never give up by the artist chronix that's with two x's at the end
Starting point is 01:10:21 and i just like this guy he's like his he grew up around like reggae like his dad's a reggae artist and like because of that like just you know grew up around people like gregory isaacs and stuff like that and has like a sound that is that feels like yo i still like they're honoring the og sound of reggae which i always like uh well i love newer stuff too but this song is just kind of it's just really pleasant and I think a good way to start your weekend with some reggae vibes. So this is Never Give Up by Chronix. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
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Starting point is 01:12:43 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture.
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