The Daily Zeitgeist - Clinton Harris 2024? GenZ KILLED Flirting!!! 07.10.24

Episode Date: July 10, 2024

In episode 1705, Miles and guest co-host Matt Lieb are joined by hosts of Because the Boss Belongs to Us, Jesse Lawson & Holly Casio, to discuss… The Lancet Study Finds Gaza Death Toll Could Be “More Than 186,000 People”, Poll Finds That Hillary Clinton Would Beat Trump... Because Time Is A Flat Circle, Gen Z Caught Another Body - FLIRTING, Far Right UK Party Accused Of Running AI-Generated Candidates and more! The Lancet Study Finds Gaza Death Toll Could Be “More Than 186,000 People” Poll Finds That Hillary Clinton Would Beat Trump... Because Time Is A Flat Circle Donald Trump Suffers Polling Blow Against Kamala Harris Gen Z Caught Another Body - FLIRTING How Gen Z destroyed flirting: This is how young people try to score a date today Far Right UK Party Accused Of Running AI-Generated Candidates Reform UK candidate's furious response after voters accuse him of being an AI bot Who are the five new Reform MPs elected across the UK? Everything you need to know How Nigel Farage’s Reform UK Party Impacted the British Election The real lesson for America in the French and British elections LISTEN: "Not Like Us" by Kendrick Lamar (But Goth)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I've been there I've been there a few times I love London I went to the airport there once Yeah yeah Do you guys ever hang out there? Which airport? He loves Gatwick

Oh man Not Heathrow, it doesn't have it No I love Stansted, I'm a Stansted man myself yeah I'm also a Stansted man because that's where the cheap flights go from yeah exactly I mean every time I try not to fly anymore so yeah every time I've gone to the continent I'm always like why leave from Heath was like well it's like exponentially more expensive to go anywhere out of there if you're just like a short there was a John Lennon statue where I went, which one was that?

I think he went to Liverpool then. Are you okay? It could have been a different British guy. We have a few. It was just a statue. It could have just been a statue of some guy. I assumed it was John Lennon because I don't know

any other people from England there are none yeah he's our only man he's the only guy yeah the only person ever well no

you have the guy from Wings the guy from Wings is also from Paul McCartney okay interesting oh okay the most roundabout Beatles references

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This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It is Wednesday, July 10th, 2024. What does that mean? What is July 10th? Well, allow me to reintroduce this day. It's, oh my God, I don't think there's anything going on today. Oh, it's, no, it's National Pina Colada Day, National Kitten Day, Chronic Disease Day. Okay. We do have some to pop it off today. Oh, Chronic Disease Day.

So shout out all of those things. Bring awareness to all of them and then top it off with a Pina Colada, if you will. My name is Miles Gray, a.k.a. We need some Tayloration, Colbert Nation in this DNC. Mark Paul, Gosselaar skating. Gary Payton, maybe Yasmin Blythe. Okay, shout out to Salvador Jolly. That was touching on one of the more interesting schemes we've heard about replacing Joe Biden is like, just do like Oprah and Colbert and Taylor Swift to talk to whoever the new candidate is. And that will completely reverse the policies of the party that also need to change.

But anyway, that's from Salvador Jolly to the tune of Family Affair. I got to say, rhyming DNC with dancery. I love that. I got to say, I really enjoyed that. But look, I am thrilled to be joined today by my guest co-host, someone who we all know is a wonderful comedian producer podcaster you know again multi-hyphen it's only in this guest podcast position host of bad has bara please welcome and it's also the most moral podcast in the world it is the most

moral podcast in the world please welcome to the microphone mr matt lee i said that earlier. That was me because Jack wasn't here. And also, I'm going to say footnotes randomly throughout this episode. It's me, Matt Lieb, a.k.a. Because I'm Matt. I'm Matt. I'm Matt Lieb. What's up?

That was me. I love it. Was that off the cuff? Off the cuff, dude. Off the top of the head. I love that you... Was that off the cuff? Off the cuff, dude. Off the top of the head. I love to see that. I love to see it. You have to understand that I've got a, you know,

a pretty storied career of parody songs. Usually, they're about eating butts, in which I, you know, use this onomatopoeia I invented for eating butts called Lum. Ah, yes. And I will do one of those songs at the beginning of every broadcast. But for this one, baby, I'm talking my own name. I like that.

We love to hear that. Thank you so much, Matt. And speaking of musical talents, our two guests today host a wonderful podcast about another musical powerhouse. One, Bruce the Boss Springsteen, New Jersey's very own. I know very little about Bruce Springsteen aside from what I get just sort of ambiently from being an American. But after listening to their podcast, I'm, I'm starting to, to understand things a little bit better, better, at least from a completely new perspective, which I really enjoy. They are the hosts of the podcast because the boss belongs

to us asking the question, look, is Bruce Springsteen actually one of the greatest queer icons? And they have a very emphatic answer to that question. Please welcome to the microphone, please welcome to the microphone, Jesse Lawson and Holly Cascio. Thank you so much for having us. Oh, it's great to have you. Oh, of course. And we do want to acknowledge, Jesse, you are currently, both of our guests are coming live from the UK right now.

But Jesse, you do live near a main road and ambulance station. So if there is some ambient sound. I do, yeah. I'm literally a radio producer. That is my job. And I have the worst house for recording in. It sounds like you're just in the middle of the street. Right, right. No, we love it. Yeah, I wasn't like, is that one of those Zoom backgrounds where it looks like they're in a house and they may just be sort of sitting like on the high road?

Yeah, I'm sitting outside. Well, it's great to have you. Like I said at the top, like I, I don't know anything about Bruce Springsteen. A lot of people like you'd like a man. He's from New Jersey. You're from the Valley outcast. And I'm like, yeah, I respect that, I guess. But tell us a little bit about your podcast, because I also love that, you know, as sort of in the description of your show too, you also asked the question, why you, the host, trans activist, abolitionist, DIY punk, drag king, working class weirdos, what are y'all doing idolizing a cis straight rich white man? Well done for getting that out in one take. We can never do that in one straight take. Oh yeah, I'm good. I'm good at one take.

He's a professional, dude. You can tell, you can tell. think you're our actually our target audience because i think we talk a lot about bruce brinksey and we get very very nerdy about it and we forget that actually other people outside of you know the myth of bruce brinksey a lot of people don't know about him and like who he really is including us we're kind of making it up as we go along but we do a lot of very big deep dives into who we think he is yeah i love it yeah i think also like that was my experience i think one of the so i got into bruce springsteen when i was in my early 20s and before that point i hadn't thought

that much about him because he is an american like you know one of his album covers has the american flag right everyone says that he's the same as bon jovi like i just like i was like well this isn't for me right and then i had the kind of like classic says that he's the same as Bon Jovi. Like I just like, I was like, well, this isn't for me. And then I had the kind of like classic experience that lots of people we talked to on the show had where I just listened to one song and was like, it's about gender. And then I became totally obsessed with him. So yeah,

I think like that's something we talk about a lot on the show. It's like, yeah, there's a real Bruce who lives in New Jersey and there's a Bruce that we've projected all of our thoughts and feelings on TV. it's really weird because sometimes you you think like i'm getting all this queer stuff from bruce what on earth are other people getting like you look around at other people who are like i love america i love bruce rickstein it's like what version of bruce are you listening to yeah well i think most americans things go over our heads

anyway and people be like huh the song had layers so i had some depth to the lyrics that i wasn't picking up on i thought it was literally about a guy working in a steel town yeah i think you're really underestimating how stupid we are as a country we saw american flag and said god love america and then we're just we're like yeah america's good he loves it it has the lyric sheets yeah we're safe well that did like yeah, like, yeah, that literally happened, didn't it? Because Trump asked Bruce Springsteen to play at his inauguration. Yeah. A song which is about, like, workers' rights and unionization.

Right. We've only gotten worse, too, because, like, now you have, like, every other day, Tom Morello will tweet something and there'll be, like, 10 conservative reply guys like, like oh i miss when rage wasn't woke and it's like how completely inept at media criticism do you have to be to think have you heard like your ears work right have you just heard down rodeo these people ain't seen a brown-skinned man since their grandparents buy one what the fuck it's so great. Yeah, well, yeah. No, but the other thing, too, was like, it was fun hearing you both discover suddenly, it's like, wait, am I the only boss fan?

You're like, no, this is truly a shared experience. And I'm guessing, like anything, it's always fun to kind of begin to find your community sort of like in this niche way, too. It must be just only like sort of furthers your love for the boss oh yeah we we are legion i think that's what we discovered here that the podcast is there's so many of us out there and i think secretly we've done this just to make more friends because everyone we talk to there's just so many queer fans out there that hear his lyrics or see him and don't know whether they actually want to be him or whether they want to make out with him. They're not quite sure,

but there's so many of us. It's incredible. To be clear. The reason anyone starts a podcast is to make friends. That's true. That is true. Just letting you know. Yeah.

We're all best friends right now, aren't we? Oh, absolutely. Like I'm coming to, I'm going to ask to crash at your places when I'm in the UK next time. This is how friends are made. It's me from the podcast about

15 months ago, if you remember. I'm here, and I have Nando's. I'm willing to share. I love that you're dropping the Nando's reference immediately. We'll get the meal deal at Tesco. Whatever. Oh, you've studied. I like this.

On the noisy, busy street that I live on, there is a Nando's. Oh, perfect. Well well call me you know perry mr perry perry um the thing i also gotta add what's like in your opinion what's like spruce things spruce spruce things that's all yeah spruce things what springsteen's like most based song that you'd be like man people need to fucking actually listen to this track like to really just to kind of blow open your mind about who bruce springsteen is great question so many i mean born in the uh born in the usa is like the really obvious one that everyone's kind of aware of the one that's about

loving the usa right absolutely yeah unions yeah it's about just fucking that flag um but like he i think the song we talk about a lot on the show is dancing in the dark which sounds like it's about just fucking that flag um but like he i think the song we talk about a lot on the show is dancing in the dark which sounds like it's just pop banger like it's just a pop hit everyone knows and it's just a song about bleak depression and isolation and darkness and queerness if you want to hear it but right it's just such an unbelievably sad deep song that goes on miss because it's just such a pop banger. I always thought that was a song about how to start a fire. It's like you can't start

a fire without a spark. Is that what you're doing? Yep. Yep. Yeah. This goes for hire. So I figured it's just like teach America how to make more fires. Yeah, we have that already. It lights a fire in your heart. They're called gender reveals.

And we do them in dry areas to start wildfires. I saw one of them in real life the other day. I thought it was just an American thing. I go swimming with a bunch. All of us are trans who go swimming together. And we were walking down the beach. And there was a legitimate gender reveal party. And all of us stood there.

And when they revealed revealed they were like it's a boy and we were like for now yeah is it yeah keep yeah keep telling them that well look we're going to get to know you all even better uh but first uh we are going to just give people a quick peek at to what we're going to be talking about you know there's so much news happening uh one of the bigger stories is The Lancet. The medical journal has published a study that was counting the dead in Gaza. It's called Counting the Dead in Gaza,

Difficult but Essential, which has a much higher estimate than anything I think that has ever been reported. But when you look at sort of the methodology of how they came to this number, it makes perfect sense. Then we might also talk about how Gen Z caught another body.

This time, Gen Z is killing flirting, according to the New York Post and many other places. So we'll talk about that. And we will also, because we have some esteemed guests from the UK, I just do want to touch on the elections that had happened there. But also just this interesting controversy where one of these reform candidates that maybe people thought were AI, but wasn't. It's very strange and feels very much like something we are probably going to experience soon over here. So we will talk about that and plenty more. But first, we must ask our guests, Jesse and Holly, what is something from your search

history that's revealing about who you are or what you're into right now? I was going to gonna say because the show is like a serious scientific research project i spend a lot of time googling bruce springsteen's lesbian looks so a lot of my google search history is like bruce lesbian jacket bruce dyke haircut and wait so and their articles or someone is like, here are his looks. So that has some SEO hits. Oh, I love this. Okay. When I search Bruce lesbian jacket, it said Bruce Lee jacket.

I'm like, no, no, no, no. We're not speaking the same language. Well, I want to buy one of those Bruce Lee jackets. Hold on. Those yellow ones. Yeah, yeah. Jessie, how about you? What's something from your search history?

I have ADHD and I'm constantly in a trying to work out how to make myself interested enough to do boring things. So my most recent life hack is I basically I really don't like brushing my teeth, but I know that you have to. So now I just only ever search Taskmaster 10 minute video and then I sit and I watch it and I floss and brush my teeth. There you go. There you go. And it really works, would recommend to a friend yeah i i have a lot of trouble moving my body uh podcasting and working like media stuff requires a lot of sitting and i'm like terrible at motivating myself to work out but i've recently hit like a dark spell like in my mental health where i realized too, like moving my body is like a great distraction and a great thing. Plus I can move my joints that are becoming so, you know, calcified and

hardening before my eyes that like, I just tell myself like, rather than doing that thing where you're just going to scroll or just like stare at something, move your body because then the knock-on effect will be, you will feel better better and i've only recently been able to use that effectively wait is that what dancing in the dark's about holy shit exactly just getting out of just getting out of this thing man man what's that one lyric something about uh i ain't nothing but tired that's we can all relate to that that's how i feel a lot of the time underrated jesse holly what is something you think is underrated i'm gonna say underrated uh libraries i'm a librarian in my day job and libraries are great yeah yeah i love libraries are you also the zine maker i am yes yes yes my local library recently the last few

years started carrying zines which i thought was really cool no way that's so cool i wish more libraries did that yeah i thought i thought i was like damn this is dope like the like because like you see young kids just picking up these like really interesting like certain you know obviously like counterculture topics that they're not going to find anywhere else in the library but like i was like you know what respect to the zine rack that y'all have that's so cool obviously like counterculture topics that they're not going to find anywhere else in the library. But like, I was like, you know what? Respect to the zine rack that y'all have.

So cool. Indoctrinate them while they're young. I love that. Yeah. Get off that capitalism. The zines aren't woke, are they? I'm going to make a conservative zine.

Yeah. Can you imagine? I mean, you know, they're probably trying that shit we're like we need a conservative scene yeah that's just a god pamphlet right that's like just uh i feel like yeah yeah yeah they make scenes yeah yeah they really good i mean really good paper stock they use it's not quite that diy zine feel though no No, no. Those Jesus pamphlets. No, the kids will see right through that.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the tone of like life like for a librarian in the UK? I mean, in America, in certain places, it's become a hellscape because, you know, obviously. Oh, yes. Is it Idaho that's just had that? Yeah. I saw there was something about you have to take ID now.

And if you're under, is it under 18? Yeah. And like recently one library like adopted this policy and yeah because this this uh state legislature bill had passed but yeah i'm guessing the kids have access to books in the uk well you say that that's very optimistic of you and we lost something like 800 libraries during the tories while they were in power so 800 libraries closed in 14 years wow so uh no libraries in the uk are in a dire dire state wow that's what i'm here to talk about yeah seriously no i mean yeah uh jesus that's that's 800 in the last 800 yeah yeah and i live in an area where there was a recent article that came

out that said my local area has too many libraries and they might be closing more of those down. It's just absolutely insane. Too many libraries is the funniest complaint I've ever heard. That's like when you're so austerity-brained. That's a conclusion you come to. Well, there's too many libraries. And what does that mean?

How are we going to save some money? Don't worry about any other budgets out there. Let's cut the libraries down. There's always money for the military. Libraries are too expensive. These fan readers have had it too good for too long. Need more prisons. We've got a prison problem. We need to just convert some of these

into like micro prisons. How about that? Okay. Jessie, how about you? What's something you think is underrated? I don't know if this is underrated or just has a bad rap, but I think that karaoke is really good oh hell yeah it has a bad rap i feel like it's not like cool i also think that people only think that people who are good at singing do karaoke right and i'm here on my soapbox to say that the best karaoke is when you're really bad but really keen oh yeah shouting as loud as possible to

a song is like the best release of emotions ever it is the it is slight almost a full replacement for therapy i'd say like it's a hundred percent it's cathartic to group scream a song yeah it is in this way that i can't it's it's so funny that you say that now I'm like getting goosebumps I'm like yes I was screaming under the bridge recently uh with a group of people and like everyone's doing the harmonies like and like people were respecting the harmonies it sounded like you were singing like the Welsh national anthem the way we had the harmonies popping and shit and that felt like that's power you know what I mean otherwise I'm atonally screaming like other songs. But again, that's the last time.

I cured my PTSD when we all went, bum, bum, bum, during Sweet Caroline. Do you like karaoke, Matt? I love karaoke. But there's two types. There's the one that's at the bar. And then there's the one, uh, the, like in Cape town,

they have the rooms. Hell in a cell. Yeah. And, uh, and it's just you and your homies and like the greatest food you've ever had singing do host, you know, I really disagree with the rooms.

I think I can, something I really love about karaoke is the vibe of the crowd and people getting behind you singing along. Wow. wow yeah I can only do the rooms I feel like I'm treating it like therapy that's that's between me and like a very small group of people that's not for the public I'm a rumor too I'm a rumor oh really nice I mean I'll get up I'll get up I don't I don't mind like because you'll usually be with it's not like I go in like solo lone wolf karaoke and I'm like I only have this stage. And then, you know, botch, my heart will go on or something.

But yeah, I did. I came to America on a solo trip, like just after COVID finished. And so I was like on my own. And I was like, what will I make myself do? I'll make myself go to a karaoke bar alone in every city that I go to. And it was real fun. And I made friends with people. Where'd you go? Where'd you go? Did you go to la you said you were in la i did i was in la uh san francisco and

then i flew to winnipeg in canada and then i flew to new york i was do you remember what that's why do you remember what karaoke bar in la you went to uh no i went to one in san francisco that was a live piano player and then you just went up to him and you're like, here's my song. And then he played it on the piano. That was pretty cool. It was called Plinky Plonky's Bar. Oh, I love Plinky Plonky's. Man, you're a regular Plinky Plonk.

That's my favorite Cillian Murphy show. Overrated. Holly, what is something you think is overrated? Staying on the library's theme. We have this thing in the UK. I don't know if you've got this, but we have like community libraries in phone boxes. Do you have that? We have like little community, like they look like mailboxes, big bird houses where you put whatever you want in there.

Right. Yeah. I hate them. I hate them. They're like really, really twee and quaint and have a little bunting around them and it's just an overrated book swap for like books that people don't want so it's always just like harry potter and dan brown and crap that people want to get rid of yeah they're usually in towns where libraries have like been axed and got rid of

but everyone's really happy to have this community library it makes me so angry interesting it's kind of like uh you know it's it's the privatization of libraries it's like if you want if you want to check out books you have to put them on your front lawn for everybody to take right that's yeah that is kind of messed up i never thought about it that way but it is how i get a john grisham so yeah no judgment you know whatever you want to read it's absolutely fine but they usually as well like in quite nice areas you don't really get to see those kind of quaint libraries in poorer areas which i think is my beef right no i totally get that and yeah the quality of the books it definitely it feels more like a receptacle for trash that is in book form you know like every time we have a couple in my neighborhood and my partner she loves to read

and so like every time it's like oh there might be a book and it's always like man it's all fucking mid-ass trash books like yeah it's just every time three tony robbins and a la croix yeah why is this empty can in here well yeah there is a full one back there if you like yeah you dig behind the like libertarian literature they have there. All the Ayn Rand and shit. How about you, Jessie? What is something you think is overrated? I think that work is overrated.

I don't want to spend my time stressing about paying rent. I would love for us to get rid of capitalism and everyone have a nice time. How can we do that? I think AI is probably our best. Who agrees? Anyone? Love it. Okay.

Okay. What if we all own Teslas? And then when we're sleeping, the Teslas make money for us by being robo taxis. Society has. Sounds foolproof. Works for me, dog. What's like the, I mean, we'll get to this story a little bit later.

But I mean, you know, you've unshackled yourselves from the Tory party after 14 years. What is, is there a feeling of buoyancy, lightness, optimism in the UK right now? Did you just hear that sigh? Yeah, I know. That's why I just always want us to have perspective on how elections work and what the real stakes are that we see, I think, of people of very similar thinking versus what the sort of political backlash is.

It's really tough because, yeah, I think that it would be great to be feeling happier now at the total landslide that happened. And it, you know, we now have a labor government, but it is a pretty central. I don't think that me and Holly share that much politics with this current

form of, of labor. Sure. So in some ways it's a little bit scary because a lot of things that were happening under the Tories might still happen under a new name. And then also it might be hard, you know, there's a level of complacency, isn't there, when you have what people say is a left-wing government in power.

Right. Yeah, exactly. It's like, let's be the centre-left. Let's not get ahead of ourselves at best. And our Democratic Party is like a centre-right party, it turns out. So it's all perspective. It's all perspective. Well, yeah, it's, I don't know matt were you gonna say something sorry no no i was just gonna say i still am stuck on how do you pronounce the new prime minister's name here star star oh it's here okay yeah starmer does he have like personal security guards and are they called storm troopers?

Oh, I don't think so. You should write to him. I saw a clip on Twitter. I thought that would get a bigger laugh than it did. Just to let everyone know, I was very proud. That was a big swing. It was a big swing. Sometimes you take a big swing on this podcast and sometimes you miss.

Yeah, you just sent me like the bang, bang, bang emojis. I keep sending you fire, fire over and over again fire as fuck right dude that was great i saw a clip recently and i don't know if this is since i doubt it since he's become prime minister but he was like in a locker room and like apparently this was like after playing football and someone was like hey uh palestine man uh what do you think uh was that how old is that clip and he was sort of like we need a ceasefire and they're like well don't you do something i mean i mean it's yeah i mean he has called for a ceasefire in the last 24 hours which is like truly all of us were like don't say anything like it wasn't expected and so that you know that's cool i guess yeah minimum yeah minimum that's and he also sacked all the mps that previously called for a ceasefire so

there's like he did yeah yeah jesus there was a wee purge before the election let's say i would really love to get the bare minimum though here i'd be really sick if we could get the bare minimum yeah we get the version of like when a parent is like being like nagged by a child like yeah uh-huh uh-huh just one second yeah right people are like it's genocide i know daddy's gonna and daddy knows and daddy knows daddy knows and daddy knows that and that's bad that's bad but we're not going to use that word today okay it's a curse word yeah yeah what gosh we're living off scraps baby you know seriously in so many ways we can't even get an alive guy to be the democratic nominee just fully alive would be nice i know know. It's so dire, man.

Like to just, to look upon what our potential future is. Anyway, let's do that off mic. So we don't bum everyone out and we'll be right back after this. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that.

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could reach more than 186,000 people. That is obviously exponentially more than the 38,000 that we hear being quoted most of the time, because of course that number doesn't take into account the quote thousands of dead buried under rubble and indirect deaths due to destruction of health facilities, food distribution systems, and other public infrastructure. That figure is actually a conservative estimate. As the Lancet said, it was calculated using four indirect deaths for each direct death. But as they said in this journal piece, the other other conflicts, indirect deaths range from three to 15 times the number of direct deaths. So this is the again, the conservative number, and that would amount to almost 8% of the total population in Gaza. Right now, as it stands, the CIA director Bill Burns is headed to Doha to continue ceasefire talks. This feels like a headline I read every other week when people are trying to appease everyone who's absolutely outraged by the situation, to put it lightly.

absolutely outraged by the situation, to put it lightly. And on Sunday, Hamas said it was waiting to hear from Israel on their latest proposal. So I'm not sure where this lands. But again, 186,000 is what they are saying is a more realistic death toll, given all of the infrastructure damage. And again, like the way even the media in the United States is like, oh, wow, buildings are toppled in Gaza. And it's like, and those are and people are inside of those buildings. Very important information. And it makes total sense. I mean, you know, like this, this count that we've been getting,

which is coming from the Gaza health ministry, is just based on bodies that are identifiable and accounted for that have been directly killed. people who have been killed by Israeli bombing and gunfire. And it makes total sense that, of course, the indirect deaths here is going to be where a big mass of the body count is eventually going to be reported. In fact, the United Nations just now today released a press release that says u.n experts declare famine has spread throughout the gaza strip uh this is uh according to the united nations human rights office of the high commissioner and so it's like yeah like this this number that keeps getting trotted out feels like it hasn't changed for a lot of people people People are like, haven't we been saying like 35 ish thousands since like January. Right.

And yet every day we see more and more videos of this destruction and we're stuck on this number. And it just, you know, for anyone who's been paying attention, you just sit there knowing how much worse it actually is. Yeah. And it's people willing to engage with the news and not sort of look away. Like I think most people tend to do because it's horrifying. But again, this is, these are sort of like the stakes. I think that people

have to understand when you, you look at like how a government works and what you wanted to do or not do. These are the kinds of things that factor into it. And I know like the, again, like you look at the polling for the support just in America for actually having some kind of meaningful ceasefire. It's overwhelming. Yeah.

And yet again, because we have a military industrial complex that needs constant feeding of funds, this is what we get. And this is like, you know, and I think a lot of, there's so many, it's not just even in like armed conflict. I remember even with Hurricane Maria, right, in Puerto Rico, there were, there was this amount of deaths that the sort of US government was sort of like, and only like a few, like maybe a couple people died. But

when you actually really look at the entirety of it, the lack of power and access to medical care and like clean water and things and what that actually did for other people. It was much higher. And I think people really need to take this into consideration, or at least I don't think anyone listening to this show is like, I'm on the fence about what's happening in Gaza. But, you know, I think what you said about the military industrial complex is really

important as well. Cause it's like, I don't think it's at all meaningful for the head of the CIA to to go and quote unquote call for a ceasefire when america is selling that many arms to israel right like that do you see what i mean like that yeah it's not your bad faith actor in it if you're like well i profit from this yeah yeah and he would be clear in saying oh i am not calling for a ceasefire i'm trying to broker a negotiation in which we eventually get the whole permanent ceasefire taken off the table. Right. Which is kind of where it's at right now. Yeah, that is where it's at. That is the latest proposal.

Hamas has actually agreed to take out the first demand of a permanent ceasefire in favor of all the other demands. And it's just like, you know, we just keep going around in circles until somebody with power in the United States admits that Israel is acting in bad faith at all times. Yeah, you know? Well, that leads us to our predicament here with the presidential race.

Just look, polls are meaningless, but they're fun to just talk about because obviously they they never actually end up the way you hear about it. No, but it's like fantasy football. Let's have a good time. You know, it's a snapshot of what a couple, maybe 45 people are thinking that they pulled and then extrapolated that to the entire populace. But a new poll showed that Biden is trailing Trump, but in the same amount, it's 42 to 43 percent. But because of the speculation that Biden is trailing Trump, but in the same amount, 42 to 43 percent. But because of the speculation around Biden staying in or dropping out, their survey also looked into how other Democratic candidates would stack up in the election, including Gavin Newsom, Michigan Governor Governor Gretchen Whitmer, who both came out behind Trump. But, you know, who ran ahead of Trump 42% to 41%?

Was Kamala Harris. And guess what? When you pair Kamala Harris with Hillary Clinton, it put Democrats, quote, in the strongest position, beating Trump 43% to 40%. This feels like such... Do it! Do it! If we're going to lose, at least let it be funny that's what i say come on oh man well i mean again also this feels like the absolute kind of thing where like the pollster class is like man just get something out there that like really shows like anything but this could work because we were cheerleading it the whole time.

But now suddenly we're feeling the heat because we were the ones that were keeping this guy here. Oh, gosh. I honestly don't know how you're coping because when we had our election, we have like six weeks build up to it. But you guys have like a whole year of this, don't you? Oh, we have two years. Yeah. It's so much. Because everything is about, again, generating as much money as possible if

you're allowed to campaign so far out that means everybody from the campaign like strategery you know industry they start getting their checks the pollsters start getting their checks that's like that's what it's all about and yeah i mean like i wish we had like more again like we've also deemed that corporations are people that have a legitimate voice in our election. So, you know, do with that what you will. But like, you know, other countries have like, you know, harder rules. Like everyone has the same budget. Go.

And you have the same amount of time. Go. But again, because we are a kleptocracy built on, you know, corporate kleptocracy. It's, yeah, it's a little bit more difficult, unfortunately. How do you guys do it? You guys have one of them parliaments. Is that right? I used to do drugs out of those.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, and cigarette. Never mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's not like the cocaine cigarette? No, but yeah, I mean, what is sort of your election season? Like, how quickly does it sort of explode and then fade away? It's a very, very quick turnaround.

We're slowly being boiled over here. It's like six weeks. They announce the election. You've got six weeks to prepare. But obviously, the way things have been going, everyone knew that an election was coming up anyway. So things have been moving around. And it's just nonstop debates, wall-to-wall polls, news headlines. But six weeks of that feels more bearable than a whole year, two-year cycle of that.

That's just nonstop. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, a huge chunk of our economy is election money. So, you know, you have to keep into account that if you shorten elections, you know, what are pundits going to do for the rest of the four years? You know, what are they going to talk about sports? What are they going to talk about policy?

Nah, I can't do that. Well, if Biden doesn't win, then he can always start a really bland podcast with Bruce Springsteen when he comes out of office, can't he? Yeah, him and Obama together. Yeah. Right. Oh, gosh, that was a wild one, wasn't it? I like to think that doesn't exist wiped it from my brain what did you make of that as boss fans i have not listened to it

can you even bring yourself to listen to well we had to listen to it for research purposes i was looking for a quote and i had to sit through 10 minutes of it and the most insipid liberal nonsense it's just nothing it's just no one's saying anything on that podcast no one is saying anything right right right so i love yeah that's and that's the thing about that uh-huh oh man i want to i want to listen to this and just tune i want to i want to listen to it and stare at a blank wall for a while i mean yeah yeah fall asleep gently this is like i think this is what's so wild too because i hear from older people too they're like yeah i mean you guys

gotta fit you know you gotta stay you gotta get in line you know and and support like this candidate and there's there's a huge dimension that is always missing from the discourse around how younger people look at a presidential candidate these days is we have had like back to back to back economic like suplexes that broke our fucking souls yeah and and we look at only increasing inequality we're becoming so much more aware of the prison industrial complex over policing the mismanagement of funds and where they go and who it supports that everyone is now being like the status quo is fucking violence like people don't understand that's like that's my default position the status quo is violence and i know that for a you know a very fortunate few life is

very peaceful and you have no existential threats to your personhood or anything like that but for many other people that is not the case. And like to, to not acknowledge that sort of like anger, uh, frustration, fear that exists and just be like, well, you know, we just got to just, just to figure it out. Don't worry about all these other things you guys are crowing about. Just get behind the candidate. It's such a fucking slap in the face. And I wish that there's a way that like, I mean, you know, at the very, again, the bare minimum,

right. Could be the Biden campaign being like, look, this isn't a great fucking deal here. And we understand that a lot of shit can be better. We can, you know, maybe we can try to do some stuff,

but trying like, it's nothing like that. It's just being beat over the head with like, well, then you want fascism want fascism no we fucking don't that's why so many people in their communities do what they have to do to to fight that off kind of seems like you guys want fascism being that you are willing to just lose an election to trump because all of you are too afraid to put your own careers on the line and back a different candidate. You know what I mean? That sounds very similar to what we just had in the UK as well.

I think the last six weeks have just been feeling so guilty that if we don't vote Labour, then we're voting in fascism. But it's that saying that people say, isn't it? It's like you're voting for the lesser of two evils, but forgetting you're still voting for evil at the end of the day. You're not voting with hope in your heart. You're not voting with an actual choice. You're voting because it's slightly less fascist than the big fascist. But when Labour aren't actually offering an alternative or an opposition,

then that just allows fascism to grow even more. So what is the point in that? Right. Yeah. And that's what's so exciting. I know we can, we can talk about it more later, but that's what's so exciting about the election results in France

is that it was like a left-wing, a genuinely left-wing coalition that surpassed the two-party system. And that's a really, really exciting thing that you can actually vote for something that you do believe in. Yeah, the videos of all the right-wing French people waiting for the returns to come in. So heartwarming. Absolutely ashen-faced.

I was like, oh my God. Yeah. If this is what I have to hold on to as my country falls apart, then so be it. At least I had that. But yeah, I mean, like that's the thing we, we understand many people understand the stakes. No, I'm not voting for Donald Trump. I'm not going to ever support him or his, or his candidacy. But unfortunately I'm like, well, the only other option is this other thing. But I, as a voter, feel completely unheard on so many other issues. That's where my resentment comes in as a voter, because I'm like, you guys fucking wore Kente cloths in the Capitol talking about you were going to do something about over policing

and white supremacy. You're you you'd made all these fucking noises about the pandemic and people's safety. And then it's like all the fucking safety measures got pulled out from under people. You're talking about, there's so many things on the agenda. And I get that there are other things that happen, but there are a lot of voters who are like, come from these marginalized groups, or people are just looking at their own situation and say, I, the status quo, like will actually be the end of me. Like if things keep going as it is, this will be the end of me. So I need to hear something different. And a lot of people resent the fact that the only thing they're hearing is, well, you better get you, you want

fascism. It's that that's so fucked up. Like you have to acknowledge what people are going through. And it doesn't mean you're conceding the election by acknowledging these things, but this is, I think this is a situation where I think Americans have become so used to being like, well, I have to vote for the Democrat because that as a binary. Yeah, that's the better decision. But they're also for the status quo, which still means death, which means violence, which means inequality. And that is like the biggest things we're trying to contend with. So anyway, things are going great over here. Yeah, things are good, man. inequality and that is like the biggest things we're trying to contend with so anyway things are going great over here yeah things are good man had to just get that off my chest it's just a difficult time and yeah it's also just not a choice is it as you say like that's

just not no that's like yeah no one has any agency there and the other the other way too i look at it is like to be more involved in local politics and more things involved with your community. Guess what, that the gains that you can make would look easier if the Democrats kept the White House versus the Republicans be taking the White House. And then what that means, like just downwardly, just in terms of an overall policy. But even then, it then it's like that's that's the most like some people can like latch on just like well at least it won't be worse and i think that's just such a defeatist like position to be trying to to change the country from that yeah uh it's

it's a it's a huge issue it's a huge issue uh and i really wish that the i really wish our capitalist overlords would take the ills of capitalism seriously oh maybe if we ask them nicely they will yeah yeah yeah exactly yeah there's like it's a tough one as well isn't it like i don't i don't know about the us in the uk there have been some studies that show like you know big lobbying organizations and places like that like do a lot less under a Labour government than under a Tory government, even if similar things are happening, because there's this, like, perception that centre-left is, like, safer and better.

So it's like a, it's a hard balance, I think, with that as well, where you're like, no, we actually still need to, like, really keep mobilising and taking to the streets and doing all the things that we were doing under the Tory case. Yeah, because I'm under, I don't think anyone's under the impression it's like it's it's going to be a top-down solution here in the united states it's like no that's why you have to pour into things like locally because that that's your immediate environment joe biden doesn't give a fuck about north hollywood or the san fernando give a fuck unless he has a fundraiser there but like the the people that do those are the people you live with and those are the people that you need to have the bonds with to you know resist any kind of

real bullshit like you know totally like federally organized bullshit that might be in our future anyway so uh let's move on to flirting good segue hey you know how many of these guys does we like to do violent jarring fucking transitions baby uh but anyway gen z look i'm i'm glad like millennials we are officially washed and have become the hollowed out husks of what was once considered cool gen z now has the mantle and now y'all are the generation that is killing an industry. Or destroying this custom. Whatever the fuck they used to say about us.

The latest body that Gen Z caught now. Is that they've fucking. It's the end of flirting. They have killed flirting. I really want to read this New York Post opening paragraph. Because the New York Post. Very conservative. really fucking stupid. And this is how they this is like their sort of vibe in talking about a Gen Z killed flirting.

Quote, liking an Instagram story or sliding into someone's DMs are ways to express romantic interest in the digital age. But technology may actually have made it harder for singles trying to score a date. Gen Zers especially struggle to master the art of flirting in an era of social media and dating apps. Quote, I think flirting is dying, Los Angeles resident Nikki Sanjanko, 24, told NBC. If someone thinks you're cute, they just ask you for your Instagram these days and then DM you or swipe up on your story to show they're interested. The state of dating today has been described as exhausting as women online lament the nightmarish difficulties of trying to find a man nightmarish bro it's like a freddy krueger up in my dms what the fuck is this like 80s rom-com narrator version of society it's like kathy's just a woman trying to find a man

yeah like the article mostly bashes gen z like sort of painting them as like just super awkward and so online like they don't know how to even talk to another person um and i get the social anxiety part like we even as millennials we also have that yeah but like buried in this bullshit is like a line about how younger people are opting to try and just date in person since apps are so shit. And I'm like, oh, there's the nugget there that you want to kind of pull

out. What they're doing is, it sounds like maybe they're moving towards something a little less coy and superficial. Yeah, the author of this is mad that people don't send dick pics anymore right that's what it sounds like it's like they haven't they've lost how to do the art of flirting aka when i send a picture of me touching my balls and i go do you like and then they don't respond and then like

and then the local police constables knocking on my door i don't like any of this yeah like yeah it's also just sort of like because i feel like in the 80s and 90s like i my brain was absolutely poisoned by 80s and 90s media that did not actually show how human beings interacted in a romantic capacity like i was i was truly like bro you will die alone if you don't have the smooth pickup line i remember being obsessed with fucking winking yeah yeah yeah you have to learn how to wink good oh yeah what was your what was your smooth pickup line i didn't have one i was so fucking i was like i luckily by the time i got

to like high school my whole thing was just being funny and outgoing and i realized that was like that'll that'll bring the that'll bring the boys to the yard, as Khalees said, you know what I mean? My sense of humor. But yeah, I never, I mean, like, I would say stuff corny. The one thing I did, like in the digital phone age, is if I saw like somebody I was attracted to, like trying to take a photo, I'll be like, oh, let me take a picture. Let me let me take that picture for you. And then I will put it on selfie mode. And I would take a selfie of me actually maybe i won't say his name but there's like a pretty famous like celebrity pundit man who i once saw at a conference and i was celebrity he's giving you opinions and take it away he's like within like he's roughly the same age as me and like we we probably share friends he's

like in the same social circles and i but i was like not i you know i had a couple of drinks so i wasn't in my like best self and he gave me his phone to take a picture of him and all of his mates and i truly just took so many pictures of myself and then he gave it back to me to do it again because he was annoyed and then i did it again oh yeah yeah i really really haven't grown out of that yeah at that point it's not even flirting it's just it's just hilarious spite and an inside joke with yourself yeah no hold it you guys are nailing it no yeah keep doing that keep doing that. Keep doing that. Keep your leg up. Keep your leg up. Oh, man, it's just me again. He keeps giving it back to you, like, do it better.

And you're like, okay, now I'm just going to tweet some shit on your account. The funny part is, like, even though I would do shit like that, they would be like, oh, ha, ha, ha. Like, I had no way to transition from that. Yeah, I would be like, all right, got to go. And I'm like, fuck, that was so fucking anxiety-inducing. I did step one, but I forgot there's more steps after that. Yeah, I was just like, did that part be a little cutesy with him?

The talking part? I don't know. Because it looked weird. I remember you can never be like, I like you. They'd be like, what, are you a fucking murderer? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? I'm pretty happy that Gen Z have killed flirting then.

Because all of this stuff just feels like harassment. It just feels like a waste of everyone's time. I'm very happy if I get a nice DM or a heart on something. It gives me a little buzz. I like that. Exactly. I think, like I said, kill flirting. Because I didn't know how to fucking do it.

And it didn't do anything for fucking me. But after going to therapy, guess what? Voicing my needs and being straightforward with people actually has done a lot for me. And if that's how we communicate, that would actually, I think it's better for us in the long run rather than being so fucking coy. It's like exhausting. Yeah. You got to learn to flirt with yourself. You know what I mean? Thank you, dude. That thank you dude that's like that's the the most healthy way of doing it i i didn't have pickup lines growing up i think i had a long obsession with i have to get a dog because someone years ago told me that's the best way to pick up chicks quote unquote and and then eventually i forgot that's why i wanted a dog right and i just became

dog obsessed and i was like i can't get a girlfriend until i get a dog then i was like i just have to get a dog yeah now i just love dogs do you have a dog no oh man i already have a wife but you have family so yeah in a way you yeah you made good you made good You made good. You made good. I made good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Amazing. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come right back to discuss just the reform party in the UK. Just are they up to tricks? Are they not?

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basically military-grade explosives two big elections happened in europe in france uh marie le pen dude that far right national rally party came in third place oh and the looks on their faces looking like spanked asses when they were like it was wild watching people process like the results or they're like wait so we're relaxed we're relaxed is there another is there will be an update and it looked like some people some people had been in politics long enough to be like all right we're relaxed relaxed is there another is there will there be an update and it looked like some people some people had been in politics long enough to be like all right we're cooked and other people were like is the i'm sorry i'm new i'm i just i'm new to xenophobia can i speak to your manager yeah yeah no no get this off change the channel where's the right one um and then or whatever they say

but in the uk the center-left labor party toppled the conservatives uh the tories uh who have been in power for 14 years but also it wasn't all good news uh nigel farage's reform uk party won five seats in parliament including one for farage who this dude has been taking nonstop L's for a while. And I was like, he's that, he, oh,

he's, he's, oh, he got a seat. Okay. Oh, okay. But yeah,

they only had five seat, uh, scored five seats. I get, apparently reform garnered 14% of the popular vote, which is, that's, uh,

that's a little bit too big. Yeah. Um, but here's, this is where things got like a little weird or interesting. Right. So like right after the election, people were asking, like, you know, the Reform UK party, like, what's going on? Like, what's what's going on with like some of these candidates?

Like, are you running actual human beings? Like, are these real people? Because some of the people on the on the website are just like names and like a constituency and not much else no photos no biographies or things like that and you know the liberal democrats then called on reform to to provide details about these mysterious candidates uh and that's when they sort of conceded look like a lot of these were like what they call paper candidates to just help increase the party's vote share so even if a candidate had no chance of winning, they still got some votes, boosting the overall popular vote and giving the party a sense of legitimacy, although a bit inflated.

Can you explain what a paper candidate is? It's still a real person, right? It's still a real person, but it's usually someone who's not based in that constituency. So they're just, they're from a different town completely. You have no connection to them, but they'll end up on your ballot paper. Wow. They just, do they know that they're running? They usually do.

Yeah. I think they've got a headset that they're running. But people in that town have no idea who they are. They haven't seen them before. They don't turn up for like debates and things like that. Right. And so, and they're allowed, like, I mean mean they call them carpetbaggers in the u.s when you're you're an out-of-towner running all of a sudden but again this is just merely for the thing of like well

if we put somebody on the ballot from that party we can get a little bit of votes and then that helps overall to kind of be like yeah look we're here we. Yeah. So one of the concerns that people have, this is where it gets so stupid and AI begins to intersect with all of this, is there was like one of the candidates there like, is this a real person or photo? Mr. Mark Matlock. Yeah. That's not a real guy. I know, right? It seems like an AI generated conservative candidate. AI generated attorneyated attorney.

Yeah. This is Mark Spencer. You're like, hold on, dude. What are you doing here? But because the photo... He didn't appear in person at the vote count on election night, possibly because maybe he's just a hallucination of AI. He looks like, I feel like,

one of William and Kate's children grown up. I was going to say he looks like the Milky Bar kid grown up. Oh, who's the Milky Bar kid? Now I want to know. Maybe that's a British thing, yeah. Oh, yeah, it's a British candy bar. It's like a little kid with blonde hair and glasses and blue eyes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Is it like a Milky Way or is it just Milky? Just Milky. Yeah, just milky yeah just milky yeah i gotta find i gotta find this milky bar there we go okay that's him yeah yeah milky bar guy all groans up and running for parliament so the picture i like even i yeah looking at it you're like this like he looks like he has rubber face oh yeah this is ai it's like a real uncanny valley appearance to it yeah yeah 100 and then matt lock responded by claiming that he wasn't at the vote count because he was at a hospital with pneumonia this is what he posted on human being exactly i had pneumonia in my human lungs i'll have you know um so just side note please

don't be offended but that's the only british accent i could do yeah we heard it yeah okay it's you're like a you're like a guy who didn't get cast as an orc in lord of the rings somehow they're like i don't know that guy's doing too much for the orc meat's back on the menu boys yeah that's all i can do i think that's the one scene americans really glom on to when the orcs are talking about not eating right because we all love meat and it's back on the menu what's more american than that i say that quote every single day to my oh really my favorite quote exactly everything to eat in free stinking day yeah welcome to meet

just keep it going keep it going extended editions let's do it they are not for eating what about their legs they look fresh they look tasty those teeth oh my god Oh my God.

Mark Matlock, the real guy, he clarified on Twitter what was going on. Quote, unfortunately, I will not be attending the count tonight as I have pneumonia. The hospital I visited was closed before its closing time. I said to the nurse on a buzzer,

I am struggling to breathe and she said call a number vote reform this is madness this is like a fake anecdote to just be like a last minute rally cry for votes what can you break down for me what the fuck he was even trying to say here i don't know that's confusing to everyone so the hospital was closed before he before he got there is that is that like a dig at the nhs or something oh yeah i think he's smart enough to say that yeah i think he's gonna yeah anyway i'm a person he is not real real. 1,000% not real. It's very clear that this is someone who, this is like an AI going, what's the most like human disease I can have?

And it's like, oh, pneumonia. Because you need to breathe to have pneumonia. The other thing is interesting, too, because this felt like a very like gork or whatever the fucking Twitter AI chat right right yes yes people like kept casting aspersions on whether or not he was real he responded to one of the people on twitter said quote keep smoking the crack pipe and wondering what sexuality you are which feels like such a grok or gork thing like elon musk brain like yeah yeah yeah fucking drug abuser whatever the fuck to be honest this picture this candidate

of mark matlock the picture looks kind of like an ai version of elon musk you're right he does have elon's eyes yeah and jowls yeah well he it turns out at least according to the the guardian i guess we'll believe what they have to say, it turns out. He is a real person. But the photo was AI generated, he said, because according to him, he wanted a photo where he was wearing a light blue tie to reflect the party's color. Yeah, that's what changed. Yeah, he couldn't get a photographer on time. Literally, his eyes are two different colors in this photo. Zoom in.

Oh, yeah. It is a gradient. You can't even see the color of his tie in the photo zoom in oh yeah it is a gradient yeah well you can't even see the color of his tie in the photo either no you can see a little bit of baby on trial everyone you know like he did his best um but it i'm guessing in england it is accepted that mark matlock is in fact a person we've we've closed that I mean, I think it raises some questions because I think there's a lot of reform candidates that people just didn't see or know about. And it's a bit worrying that they got as many votes as they did.

But I don't know. I'm not convinced this guy's real. I'm not convinced any of them are real. Well, it kind of like begs a wider question, which is like, are fascists human? And to be honest, hard to tell. Hard to tell. Well, we'll end it on that note.

Oops. Holly, Jesse, thank you so much for joining us on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can the people find you, follow you, listen to your wonderful podcast? They can find us on any podcast platform.

We're everywhere at the moment. New episodes come out every Tuesday. And you can find us both on social media. So I'm at Holly Cascio on most things and Jessie. I'm at Jessie, J-E-S-S-E, Lou, L-O-U, Lawson. And just to say the name of our podcast again, it's long. It's because the bus belongs to us. Oh, my God.

I may have not even said that fully at the top of the show. And I apologize. Yes. No, no, you did. You did. Just in case people wouldn't know. Sorry. It's been a long week.

I just started exercising and it's taking up all my blood flow. Good for you. Is there a tweet that you all are liking or another work of media social or otherwise that you want to share with the class i was actually gonna say i've really just been enjoying the videos of the right wing party in in france losing i've been watching that video every single day this week and it's just giving me so much joy yeah there's about like three different ones as i think i found like they're all they all have their own i'm watching a montage of all of them at the moment it's on

tiktok and i just it's just it's just so lovely yeah watching the light go out of their little eyes a little beady eyes like a doll's eyes uh jesse how about you am i allowed to say a film does that count as a piece of media absolutely i was just gonna in just a slightly cheesy way because it was it's just finished being five months there is a film about a bit of british history that's called the film is called pride and it's about lesbians and gays support the minors which is an activist group that formed in the 80s there was like a really long there was a year-long minor strike in the 1980s and yeah this group of queer people from london were like oh like the same police the same government the same conservative attitudes

uh oppressing the minors are oppressing us and they did this thing of queer people from London were like, oh, like the same police, the same government, the same conservative attitudes are oppressing the miners as are oppressing us. And they did this thing up, Queer Solidarity, where they raised money for this mining village in Wales. And if people, which it sounds like they are, are feeling depressed about politics and feeling powerless, it's a really nice film to watch, to like give you hope, basically. I need some of that.

Yeah, I mean, look, we got us. That's the mantra, basically, till the very end. Matt, again, thank you for joining me today. Where do the people find you? Follow you? What's a tweet or other piece of media that you're vibing with? Thanks for having me. And you can follow me on Instagram at Matt Leave Jokes and listen to my podcast, Bad Hezbara, the world's most moral podcast. It's about Israeli propaganda. And a tweet that I've been loving is an image that Lauren McKenzie at the McKenzieist posted recently. It's the distracted boyfriend meme. But instead of the boyfriend is a tongue tongue next to him his girlfriend is a vagina

but he's looking at a butthole that's walking it's a beautiful drawing and uh i just i don't know it just touched this spot in my heart like it felt like it was very libyan it's just a distracted boyfriend tongue looking at a button like that and that's all i ever wanted uh all i ever needed it's here in my arms it me it me for real uh some tweets i like i don't know if y'all caught the fucking miami vice discourse on twitter uh no that's a whole thing but there's someone just posted uh this like video on tiktok uh because someone was talking shit about the michael mann miami vice video someone on tiktok posted uh this is from uh the tiktok user is at cooper flew the coop uh and it says

the masculine urge to look around stoically in a nightclub like you're in a michael man film like i ain't having fun i don't need fun right now that is gen z flirting right there yeah sigma shit hell yeah uh and another tweet i like uh at alone in a boy band tweeted this fucking remix it says not like us by kend Lamar, but it's goth and it fucking bangs. Hold on, where did we get this shit going? I have a go-to cell, Black One. To any bitch that talk to him and they in love, just make sure you have your little

sister from him. She's the only one that gets your hand down. Party at the park, playing with his... Okay, y'all. Get that shit in your fucking body too Cause that shit fucking bangs That is really good I gotta say that

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