The Daily Zeitgeist - CNN’s Bias Against AOC, Ohhh RUSSIAN Collusion 1.17.19

Episode Date: January 18, 2019

In episode 312, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Zainab Johnson to discuss Dick Run Claire, a new Trump-inspired Space Force comedy from The Office creators, Rudy Giuliani claiming he never said ...'no collusion,' Michael Cohen paying an IT firm to appear likable, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's critique of fact-checking, a Girl Scout Cookie and beer festival, if aliens are finally among us, the return of the Motorola Razr, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. Meet 'Dick Run Claire,' the Woman Who Draws Dicks with Running Apps2. Netflix recruits Steve Carell for the Trump-inspired comedy ‘Space Force’3. WATCH: Giuliani: I never said there was no collusion in the campaign4. WATCH: Rudy Giuliani: Russian collusion is 'fake news'5. Trump says he didn't say Mexico would write US a check for border wall. But he did6. Michael Cohen: I Rigged Online Polls for Trump7. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s Critique of Fact-Checking Is Valid8. Girl Scout Cookie And Beer Festival: We want to go to there9. Have Aliens Found Us? A Harvard Astronomer on the Mysterious Interstellar Object ‘Oumuamua10. The Motorola Razr may return as a foldable phone — for $1,50011. Greater Los Angeles Homeless Count12. WATCH: Joomanji - Chasin Rhymes (Feat. Saara Maria) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:29 Jack Bird singing in the dead O'Brien. Courtesy of Randy Travis Scott at Crispy Mean Donut. He'll always be Christy Yamaguchi man in my heart. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Keeping it very low-key today. Just please, I'm going back to my usual AK, experimental Japanese, black and these artists, your boy Kusama.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Thank you so much. All right. My copy hasn't kicked in yet. Wow. I was going to sing Whitney Houston, but I was not ready. And I didn't want to embarrass myself or Whitney. I get so emotional, Gravy. No.
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Starting point is 00:03:12 All right, sorry, sorry. Give something for the people. Okay. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian Zaynab Johnson. Hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:03:20 What's up? I feel like I need an AKA. What you got? I ain't got nothing. Okay. Say nabs of steel, Johnson. Say nabs of steel, Johnson. I'll take it.
Starting point is 00:03:31 What's your favorite song to do a karaoke? Ooh, I always choose either Fergie, TLC. Anybody that's not that great of a singer, I do that. That's me too. Like Bruce Springsteen and Johnny Cash Cash and like those dudes who just like they're just doing a voice they're not really singing or if you want to do
Starting point is 00:03:49 like a really good song a big song like I'll do like a Whitney Houston like I want to dance with somebody now of course there's no way
Starting point is 00:03:54 that I can ever do that song justice but people love it so much they'll sing along it's not even your karaoke anymore you just blend in that is kind of the hack
Starting point is 00:04:02 of picking those songs that people like will have to just start start screaming out loud along with you. Right. My friend put me onto a new song that will always win, Eye of the Tiger. It will never fail. All right, well, guys. Zaynab, Eye of the Tiger Johnson. There it is.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Everybody's heard us by now, but this Saturday night, tomorrow, stay up late night with miles, Mr. Andrew low T and I at SF sketch fest. We are doing the Saturday 1130 spot. It's basically like SNL with a better cast. Come get,
Starting point is 00:04:39 get more diverse. Yeah. Get at us. Only one white guy. Yeah. How about that? I really am the Colin Jost of this podcast. Wow. Get at us. Only one white guy. Yeah. How about that? I really am the Colin Jost of this podcast. Wow.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I've always wanted to say that. Your hair don't look that good. All right. Zainab, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about Dick Run Claire, the woman who draws dicks with her running apps like she does long runs. And when you look at them on a topographical map, they draw dicks. So shout out to her. We're going to talk about an upcoming Netflix comedy about
Starting point is 00:05:17 Trump's Space Force, the comeback of the Motorola Razr, just some of the biggest, most easily refuted lies that we've ever seen in this Trump administration have just dropped in the past three to four days. So we're going to talk about two of those. Michael Cohen trying to get the world to believe that he is a snack. And we're going to talk about the fact check culture around the left, how fact checkers sometimes have a right-leaning bias. But first, Zainab, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Starting point is 00:05:50 Oh, probably food. Food? Yeah. Just the word food? Okay, so right now in my search history is Julie and Julia Bruschetta. Okay. Yeah, I was on a plane and I watched that movie.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Okay. You know, some movies I only see on planes. Right. And that one was one of them and she made
Starting point is 00:06:13 a bruschetta. I don't even like bruschetta. Bruschetta is like the most unappetizing thing usually at a restaurant. Right. Soggy bread.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Soggy bread with just like flavorless tomatoes. It's just like, you know, Italian salsa. Yeah, by the time you, yeah, by the time you put it to your mouth the tomatoes have already fall off the bread it's just like why why did we pay 19 for this right um but in this film she made a bruschetta i'd never seen before in the way her love interest i can't remember name, but he was on a Mindy Project. He ate the bruschetta
Starting point is 00:06:46 like it was... It was like an orgasm. Really? It was fantastic. Her performance was like an orgasm? Him eating it, the bite. So much so that when I put... I didn't even have to finish it.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I put J.U. in my search history and it finished it for me. Oh, really? It finished the entire thing for me. It's my Julia and Julia bruschetta. Bruschetta, yes. Wow. And like thousands of recipes came up.
Starting point is 00:07:13 What's the difference in it than normal bruschetta? There's probably no difference except that that movie managed to make it look like the most appetizing bruschetta there ever is possible. Like with Mad Men, everybody got Jon Hamm to be the voiceover for their brand. They need to get the Mindy Project dude to just eat their food on TV. He was like, oh, oh, oh. And I'm like, that looks like it. I hope that I wasn't making too much noise on the plane because I had my headphones in. But I was like. The air marshals like, I mean, like, Miss, I need to speak with you.
Starting point is 00:07:53 I was like, yeah, him in any commercial selling. Yeah. Like, oh, oh, good. Nacho fries are back at Taco Bell. Like, shit, I didn't get nacho fries. at Taco Bell. Like, shit, I can get nacho fries.
Starting point is 00:08:05 And then after that, it's probably like, my search engine probably has like, WebMD. Like, I mean, I'm always like, what, you know, like, what is it
Starting point is 00:08:15 when your finger hurts? Like, I Google everything, you know? Can too many eyelashes fall out? Like, it's just ridiculous. Oh, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Oh, did you stop using Latisse? Exactly. No, Latisse was weird, no. Yeah. Oh, did you stop using Latisse? Exactly. No, Latisse was weird, man. They started giving people weird eye color things. Yeah, I never used Latisse. I never used Latisse. They actually changed the color of your eyes.
Starting point is 00:08:34 The pigment? People's pigment in the color part of your eye. The iris? Iris would get black in it from Latisse. It was real weird. You know what? You look like Wes Borland? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I mean, you don't think these lashes come naturally do you Zainab what is something you think is underrated underrated I think teachers underrated yeah yeah I think teachers underrated it's a shame because it's like that's a good teacher let me say a good teacher right it's underrated because it's like that's a good teacher. Let me say a good teacher. Right. It's underrated because, I mean, wherever you end up in life, like your foundation is a teacher. It's like it's a necessity, and they're so neglected, and they're so underserved, and it's just really bad. I don't mean to be serious. No, no, no. We were just talking about the strike earlier this week.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Yeah. I mean, and they're out there striking in like the rain. The rain, yeah. And, I mean, not that that's, you know, there's worse things that can happen. But I just think it's just ridiculous. I used to be a teacher and it's awful. What did you teach? I taught math.
Starting point is 00:09:34 I taught science. I taught. And then when I moved to L.A., I taught sort of like improv and theater. Oh, nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just weird.
Starting point is 00:09:42 It's a shame, though, too, because people, you know, from the state or the administrator side, they act like what teachers are asking for is absurd. Yes. And this time around, like, usually teachers are asking for a higher pay. They're asking for something that, like, directly sort of kind of services them. Yeah. But this strike is totally, like, resources for the students. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Like, you know. Yeah. They're like, why? Basic needs for the students. You're shipping all this money to charter schools and it's like you're neglecting these public schools right now yeah you know like we have classes that are too big yeah right and then you want to act like oh this is going to bankrupt the district yeah come on now yeah somebody once suggested to me that i spend money for a work thing and then get reimbursed for it like a while later. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:26 And I was like, I thought that was the most absurd thing I had ever, like I, you have expenses, but like, it was like a lot, like I would have to like pay with a check. And then like,
Starting point is 00:10:36 it was like a very like putting you out for like having a lot of money taken out of your bank account for a big chunk of time. And like, I was like, that is the most insane thing. Teachers spend their own money. They don't get reimbursed. They're constantly spending their own money just to make their classroom a better place
Starting point is 00:10:52 to learn. But also, this is how underrated they are, especially in this society. I watched a news conference last week on CNN that went on for like 40 minutes about a little girl that had been found in like Wisconsin or Minnesota or something like that. And it's like not that I'm not happy that that little girl was found. All I'm saying is a little girl emerging in Wisconsin is not 40 minutes national news coverage. A teacher, it's like I'm seeing nothing on CNN. I'm not even seeing it on local news, really.
Starting point is 00:11:21 You know, that's how underrated it is. And I think that's where the mainstream media plays its part to not sort of upset the status quo of certain things right because it's sudden like that would make you know that would make more people aware of the fact that the legislature the legislatures and state legislators are not doing their jobs correctly and things like that and it upends like there's so much money being spent like lobbying on behalf of charter schools and things like that and that's where you kind of see how the coverage kind of dictates, well, this is a feel-good story. We don't want to get people too, like, up in arms about the state of the education system because, I don't know, like, I guess people have been ignoring that it's just been on a decline for the last 25 years. It's been on a decline since, exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Yeah. 30 years. And I think it's just easier. They're like, well, people don't care about that. It's made me realize my education sucked. No, I'm kidding. Yeah. 30 years? And I think it's just easier. They're like, well, people don't care about that. Just made me realize my education sucked. No, I'm kidding. Sorry. No, no.
Starting point is 00:12:08 But they just, the media's like, well, people don't care about that. They care about the girl who was missing in the woods. But it's like, well, that's your job. You're a storyteller. Make them care. Yeah, make them care. Fucking Cardi B is on Instagram being like, the country is in a hellhole right now. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:12:24 I was impressed, too. I said, she's made a point. Hell yeah. Cardi, man. See? She gets it. That's one of the reasons why I think she's so likable. She uses her platform and says stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:34 She's not out here acting like she's an expert on anything, but she can look at what the situation is and say, this is not acceptable. What are we doing? She was like, I don't know the solution, but... Yeah. Right. This shit is crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Very true. What is something you think is overrated? A lot of subscribers on social media. A lot of followers, like having a following. Yeah, yeah. I think it's overrated. And that's not to take away anything from anybody. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:01 That has a lot of followers. My following keeps growing, and i aspire for it to do so but i still know it's underrated i don't i mean overrated i don't think that first of all you're the quantity of followers that you have does not make your lies on social media any more true um also it doesn't make you any more talented no it doesn't make you any more nice sure i just think that and we've also seen with television and movie executives and things that it doesn't always most times doesn't even translate into the dollars and cents or the success on another platform or in another you you know, platform. Yeah. Yeah. Another medium.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Yeah. Another medium. Yeah. It just doesn't even translate a lot of times the way that they think it is. So it's totally overrated. Yeah. Well, and also like there are people who put a lot of stock and they're like puffing their chests up being like, well, I have one million followers.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Yeah. And it's like, sure. But that's just such a not a very concrete method of trying to measure your influence or your morality or your talent. Because, I mean, you can be the guy who was saying, like, why do I have to apologize for being white? You know, outside of Columbia. Right. And then he got a ton of followers. But that's just because you were the culture war topic du jour. And that's how you got there. And a lot of people it's like it's like it's the person that has the followers. And that's how you got there.
Starting point is 00:14:24 And a lot of people, it's like it's the person that has the followers, and it's also the behavior of people who have judgments on people who have or don't have followers. Like I've heard plenty of people say, I'm not listening to it. Well, you have 200 followers. I'm not listening to you. It's like that doesn't make – that's not the marker of if what they're saying is valid or not. You hear what they're saying and then decide through your own intelligence and experience if what they're saying is valid. I'm sure you could go
Starting point is 00:14:46 right back to that person and be like, well, what about when you didn't have any fucking followers? I'm sure you thought everybody owed you their time.
Starting point is 00:14:52 With that said, follow me on social media. What's your follower count at? 17.5 thousand. Oh, okay. Wow, I didn't know
Starting point is 00:15:03 we had royalty. By the way, guys. That's so little. But I love every single one of you. Yes. You can buy 1,000 Twitter followers for $14. You can buy- 14 bucks?
Starting point is 00:15:17 14 bucks. You can buy a million for 1,350. Wow. Should we just go flagrant on the Daily Zeitgeist account and be like, yo, this thing has 40 million followers. Two likes per tweet. There are ways that it'll be obvious that those are bots, but at the same time, Netflix
Starting point is 00:15:33 just had that Bird Box thing where they had all these bot accounts that were like, the Bird Box meme, and it started a thing. So, I mean, Twitter is very easy to manipulate. Social media is very easy to manipulate. media is very easy to manipulate which is why you should not put your true any true value in right well right and also like exactly yeah when you want to be like i think i need to buy followers right no you've already
Starting point is 00:15:56 lost the game right because it doesn't matter your life exists outside of the phone or laptop screen you're looking at exactly now i'm gonna'm going to go buy some followers, actually. Dude, you're going to look like, remember when Instagram purged all those people and we found out a lot of celebrities were into some, I think Mace, Mace and Beth from Bad Boy, he lost like two-thirds of his followers. They were like, Mace, you were buying those?
Starting point is 00:16:23 Finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false i don't know it to be false but i think that there is a cure for cancer okay what was that why you looked at me like oh no no i was that just not what i was expecting but you think there's a cure for cancer that we just have not publicized? Okay, so do you guys watch Family Guy? Uh-huh. There's this amazing episode on Family Guy where Pewter Schmidt, which is the rich guy on the show, has this safe and he's guarding this thing. And then Brian and Stewie break in and they're like, what are you hiding in here?
Starting point is 00:16:59 And it turns out that it's the cure for cancer. And they're like, oh, you have the cure for cancer. Why don't you just release it? And he's like, no, there's so much more money in treating it versus the cure. And so it was a very political, it was a very funny statement that the team at Family Guy made. But I was just like, that makes a lot of sense to me. I can get on board with that. How big pharma operates.
Starting point is 00:17:21 It's more profitable to have people who need medication exactly you can sell medication yeah which is why you sell food also pumped with things that only cause cancer like it's like a cycle you know i feel like i'm supposed to be funny on this podcast and every single thing i've said no no no no no this is not this is this is the most mild take people have ever heard. Also, I learn from anywhere. So if I quote things like Family Guy or Beyonce or- Those are all valid sources. Everything is a resource. We are the daily psychos.
Starting point is 00:17:57 That is perfectly in line with our model. Well, because aren't there like a lot of cancer treatments that they won't allow in the US? Yeah. What's the reason for that? I think it's- There's no money. They don't make money off of it. Because aren't there like a lot of cancer treatments that they won't allow in the U.S.? Yeah. What's the reason for that? I think it's regulation. Yeah, they don't make money off of it. But I also think some of it is like trying to be protective and like just not wanting to.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Well, they only want to or not open themselves up to lawsuits or something. Yeah, but I mean, the reality is you can do chemo and you can still die. Right. reality is you can do chemo and you can still die right but still but still chemo is by law what doctors have have to recommend when you have certain illnesses cancer being one of them do you get what i'm saying but probably most doctors would not if they were diagnosed with cancer would not give themselves chemo because they know how dangerous that is they know how depleting that it well yeah and i mean back in the day, too, I've had family friends who had
Starting point is 00:18:47 chemo in the 70s, and the chemo was so strong, it caused cancers because of how... That's the thing that people don't really talk that much about, but when you have chemo, it opens you up to a risk of cancer because it is a cancer-causing thing.
Starting point is 00:19:04 It's just basically zapping the cancer cells so hard that they die. But it's just basically like, yeah, but you're only going to be around for another 20 years. So like you might you might just miss the train on that one. Right. Yeah. Well, I mean, we read like I feel like every month there's always some kind of breakthrough. So I you would think that at the very least there will be some kind of uh true breakthrough yeah that is like very very readily available to people yeah i've read some
Starting point is 00:19:30 about the kind of hunt for a cure for cancer and it's a lot of there's so many different types of cancer but the cures like some cancer has been cured and some cancer you know it's just like the treatment protocols there's just a lot of different. But yeah, I've also read doctors saying that chemo is, like in 30 years, people are going to be like, wait, you just irradiated people and poisoned them to kill the cancer? Right, right, right. That's going to seem crazy down the road. Hey, well, so is Donald Trump as president.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Right. Well, let's talk about important news, guys. Oh, I'm so sorry to cut you off. But I mean, listen, we could look back and see that like people were dying from diarrhea. That doesn't happen today. You know? So it's like, I think as we advance, we'll look back at a lot of things like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:12 No, absolutely. Those people. That's all history is. That's all history is. Yeah. History is just a bunch of people going. Right. Sucking through your teeth.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Yeah. Let's see what you guys are doing. Yeah. This past episode of This american life ira glass is talking about how his uh grandmother suffered from like her face was basically like had holes in it the whole time he knew her and it was because when she was a teenager her acne treatment was they just zapped her acne with uh x-rays oh my god and it it actually worked like She had great skin for her 20s but then she had huge what are called rodent ulcers
Starting point is 00:20:49 on her face because it looks like a rodent is eating away at your face. First of all, what? Second of all, the nickname rodent ulcers because it looks like a rat bitch. Doctors used to be so mean.
Starting point is 00:21:04 They'd be like, hey, you know what you kind of look like? Man, you look like a rat that's eating your face. Oh, that's what we call it. Rat face. No, no, no. Something more professional. Rodent ulcers. Which means you have had to see a face that was eaten by rats to even know how to describe that.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Right. It's like, well, I grew up in New Orleans, so. All right. Like I was saying, we do need to get to important stories. Sure, sure, sure. The world has been introduced to Dick Run Claire. She's a woman who draws dicks on the largest scale possible
Starting point is 00:21:33 with her run paths, her running paths. These vary from, you know, kind of curvy dicks to three-fingered hands holding dicks. But they're... Yeah, the one that looks like someone is masturbating. Yeah, that one's pretty good. kind of curvy dicks to three-fingered hands holding dicks. Yeah, the one that looks like someone is masturbating. Yeah, that one's pretty good. You know, look, combining fitness and art.
Starting point is 00:21:55 It looks like a Simpsons character is masturbating because they only have three fingers. Or no, Ninja Turtle. Okay. Ninja Turtles have three fingers. Simpsons have four. Yeah. Producer Ana Hosnia brought this to our attention right before we started recording, and I just know it's breaking news yeah because that was like
Starting point is 00:22:09 i feel like there was another one oh years ago there's like a guy who would like like write out i love you to his wife or something yeah yeah we've seen like versions of this where people are using like those and that was whack as fuck yeah this is cool no i'm just no i'm serious i mean look more weird one looks like uh what's that uh gooey duck right yeah there's a there's varied varied shapes and forms so but she she claims that uh through years of experience she has now been able to like when she's mapping out her run she can like spot a penis in like the shape of streets and be like oh that's perfect oh so she's seeing,
Starting point is 00:22:45 I can carve out a dick matrix. I can carve a dick out of that thing. No problem. Also the good, like, does she have to do ways or she just knows like, cause some of these are pretty elaborate that she'd be like, okay,
Starting point is 00:22:55 left here. There are apps like, I think she's using, uh, the Nike running app and that like ingests pretty detailed maps from around the world. So you can just carve out what you want your thing to be. Yeah, you can figure out what you're going to do.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Man, I might start running. But you can also be checking as you go. No, I don't have time, man. I'm out here trying to run these dicks. I thought she would have to run really far to carve out a dick. Yeah, some of these are. Yeah, some of them are just like a mile or so. Yeah, I bet I could carve out some dicks.
Starting point is 00:23:23 They look much larger than a mile, yeah. Yeah. I'm going to try this, actually. Okay. On my running path. This dick looks kind of like Florida, too. Right. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:23:31 It has a panhandle, for sure. That is one of the weirdest things about nature, is how many things look like dicks. Yeah. Just all over the place. And a lot of the stuff that looks like dicks are things that man has sort of genetically modified, like corn on the cob. When we first got corn, it was just like two kernels at the end of like a long stem,
Starting point is 00:23:49 but then man like genetically modified it to look like a giant dick with corn all over it. Wow. So that's man doing that. There you go. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of these look like Oklahoma too. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:24:00 Yeah. I guess you can start just calling the panhandle like the cock shaft. Yes. The Oklahoma cock shaft. Yeah. Oklahoma would you can start just calling the panhandle like the cock shaft. Yes. The Oklahoma cock shaft. Yeah. Oklahoma would be a very strangely shaped cock. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:10 That would be like there would be some kind of gigantism or something happening. The scrotum. Yes. But anyway, we're not doctors. How many followers does Dick Runclair have? She needs more. I think if she doesn't have as many as the president, that's proof of your
Starting point is 00:24:28 thesis that social media doesn't matter. So there is a movie coming from Netflix, speaking of the president, about... No, a series. A series. A series. Yes. Okay. My bad. Oh, I'm sorry. Just to hop in really quick. Dick Runclair has... Oh, actually,
Starting point is 00:24:43 Zainab, you have more followers than Dick Runclair. 16.5 on Instagram. Get your numbers up, Claire. I don't even know why we're talking about her. Okay. Anyway, sorry. So there is, speaking of the president, there is a comedy series coming about his Space
Starting point is 00:24:59 Force. Yeah. From Greg Daniels and Steve Carell. Now, they were the show, well, Greg Daniels was the main showrunner, and then Steve Carell. Now, they were the show. Well, Greg Daniels was the main showrunner, and then Steve Carell eventually became head honcho there, too. But these are the people really behind the U.S. office are now giving us a show, which Netflix describes it as a workplace comedy centered around the people tasked with creating a sixth branch of the armed forces. people tasked with creating a sixth branch of the armed forces uh so this sounds like something that's in their wheelhouse a workplace comedy like with some kind of really bumbling task that feels like what's the point of it all like a paper company yeah just shit coming down from on high
Starting point is 00:25:36 and the on high is just governed by somebody with a adult toddler's brain on adderall yeah like that is gonna be crazy. That'll be great. Anything Greg Daniels and Steve Carell, I am on board for. I think that they are a dynamic team. I think that I'm trying to be conscious. I don't want to seem like I'm sucking up because I'm on a Greg Daniels show right now.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Oh, there you go. Full disclosure. Full D. She's on the show. Well, not this show, but A show. Yeah, A show. One of the shows. But no, I think that they're so smart comedically.
Starting point is 00:26:05 I think that they're great. I think that to find fun in what is the dysfunction of our political lives right now is, I think that this is a great team to do it. Not to mention, there's so much talk about like, oh, people buying property on Mars now and going into space and all of that type of stuff. I just feel like it makes sense. Yeah. No, totally.
Starting point is 00:26:24 And I think it's underrated like for a show that talks about the zeitgeist we probably don't talk enough about the american office because that show is just for an entire generation that is like the show i feel like that is i'm one of those people who will watch it on loop i watch it on a loop all the time and i still i'm still emotionally affected by what's emotional in the show. I've never seen it. I don't know what's going to happen. It's a phenomenal show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Most, what, second most watched show on Netflix? I think so. Behind Friends? Yeah. You got to change that. I'm going to get five TVs going when I get home. Oh, yeah. When NBCUniversal gets theirs, see you, Netflix.
Starting point is 00:27:04 It's apparently going to have ads on it, though, so maybe they'll manage to fuck it up. Oh, right. It's ad supported. Well, didn't they raise the price recently for Netflix? Yeah. Two bucks. Two bucks. I know they raise it two bucks every time, a little bit.
Starting point is 00:27:16 It's like in two years, they're going to be like, oh, shoot, we're paying $30 for Netflix. They're like, oh, shit, $1,800 a month? Yeah. We're all frogs in the boiling Netflix pot. Yeah. Yeah. All right. We are going to take a quick break.
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Starting point is 00:31:22 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And so we have Goblin King, Rudy Giuliani, talking today about... So his catchphrase for most of this year was, there's no collusion, zero collusion. There's nothing. What are you, working with the Russians? was, there's no collusion, zero collusion, there's nothing. What are you, working with the Russians? Yeah. There's zero collusion.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Obstruction of justice, whatever, but there's no collusion. Oh, yeah. And yesterday, he came out and said, there may have been collusion, but it wasn't, the president didn't know about it, specifically. Yeah, well, I mean, again, him doing his or, yeah, demonstrating his greatest skill, which is just admitting to crimes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:10 To get ahead of things. Yeah. So I guess, I mean, Chris Cuomo was equally gobsmacked when he tried to put out this new line of defense. I never said there was no collusion between the campaign or between people in the campaign. Yes, you have. I have no idea. I have not okay wait because first he's like yeah there's probably collusion but then he said but then again i never
Starting point is 00:32:30 said there was yeah miles was conducting a really uh interesting experiment earlier where he was pausing that appearance by rudy giuliani and it's impossible to pause it and not have a hilarious image of rudy giuliani Like his facial expressions are wild. He's dynamic. Yes. To say the least. But again, to his claim that he never said this, might I show you a clip from when he was on Hannity,
Starting point is 00:32:55 you know, just last year. Russian collusion is a total fake news. Is a total fake news. Unfortunately, it has become the basis of the investigation and muller owes us a report saying the russian collusion means nothing it didn't happen i never said there was no collusion between the campaign or between people in the campaign yes you have uh-huh wow yeah you know this is the thing he does. Collusion is a fake news. It is a fake news.
Starting point is 00:33:27 We all know that it is a fake news. But this is a thing that he's been doing over the last year and a half, roughly, just to get out in front of stuff. Suddenly he was like, oh, yeah, we paid Stormy Daniels. Right. And I was like, wait, what the fuck? Just a second ago you said there wasn't. And I think this is a tactic that is done to move the goalposts a little bit and make it so that it takes the sting off when these revelations drop.
Starting point is 00:33:52 So I don't know if this, like, does that mean Robert Mueller is about to indict somebody soon? Very close. Because he's trying to say, well, the president didn't do it or he didn't know. But maybe his son did. Right. Or maybe Jared Kushner did. maybe whoever the fuck right and they have been willing to throw lower level people under the bus for a while like saying papadopoulos is just a coffee errand boy but the fact that he's like everybody except the president is involved in this statement seems to suggest that if he's
Starting point is 00:34:23 doing this to protect against some impending announcement from the Mueller investigation indictment, it could be, yeah, people on the level of Donald Trump Jr. or Kushner. But I mean, even Giuliani, his response was so idiotic. He was like, presidential nominees, they don't worry about what's happening in their campaign. They just worry about their acceptance speech. It's like, what? The very thing is the campaign. Right. Well, maybe that's why you were so successful at running for president, Rudy Giuliani. That's crazy. He went into that 2008 election as like the prohibitive Republican favorite because he was like Mr. Led the country out of 9-11. And man, he just went up in smoke real quick yeah but you know what also too he is i mean a liar in the same way that trump is you know how trump takes credit for a lot of things like oh you know unemployment has been down and it's like first of all you're speaking about numbers that
Starting point is 00:35:15 have that are now reflective of somebody else's job that are just coming in and i was way too young to be aware of this when giuliani was mayor of New York, but I grew up in New York. And he took a lot of credit for certain crime things, like crime being done. Dropping crime, yeah. Yeah, but it was just like, you know, he was responsible for three strikes, right? That was Giuliani? I believe so. But I mean, stupid stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Like your third strike could be jumping a turnstile or something like that. But even he took credit for the crime drop, but that was as a a result of the previous mayor which i believe was mayor dinkins so it's like him and trump they're right in line with yeah what's coming out of their mouth is trash well right i think i think that's why they're perfect bedfellows yeah perfect partners in this because they they're so slippery you can never nail them down on what they say. And even when they do say, like when they're like, I have you on wax right here. He's like, nah, but that was different.
Starting point is 00:36:11 It's like, what the fuck? How is that different? You just said you've never verbally said this out loud. This is you saying it verbally out loud, but it's different. I mean, it's hard to break onto the list of Trump administration hall of most easily refuted lies, but I think they both added new chapters to that list because Giuliani with his, I never said collusion, but I always said no collusion. And then Trump with his, I never said Mexico would pay for the wall. And like PolitiFact just had basically like a 20 page article that was just like here are all the times he said Mexico would pay for the wall with like a one time lump sum payment of five to ten billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Like that is what all he was saying. That was one of the first things you said. Yeah, that was. To which Mexico replied, nah. Yeah. And then to which he replied, they said the president of Mexico said they will not under any circumstance pay for the wall. What is your comment? I said the wall just got 10 feet higher.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Yes. The wall just got 10 feet higher, folks. It reminds me, this is another Family Guy reference. You know the Spanish lady on Family Guy, every time Peter asks him, she's like, oh, no, no, no. Right, right. I know, no. I feel like Trump is like, Mexico is going to pay for the wall and Mexico is just like, no, I know. No, no, no, no. I feel like Trump is like Mexico is going to pay for the wall and Mexico is just like, no. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:37:29 All right. That's it. Well, also in the Trump orbit, Michael Cohen paid a firm to rig online polls for the president back before he was president back in 2015 and kept paying that firm. back before he was president, back in 2015, and kept paying that firm, it seems like, to help kind of bump up his numbers in terms of being just like a hot dude. Yeah, well, so first, yeah, this company, first he's like, look, man, the president,
Starting point is 00:37:59 he's really trying to help out his optics going into this election. It was prior to actually running, but in the buildup, like in 2014 and 15, first he's like, hey, can you create an algorithm to rig this CNBC poll of America's top business people? Top-ranked business people in America. And also will pay for another gig for Drudge when they're ranking,
Starting point is 00:38:21 taking a poll of Republican presidential candidates. Can you goose those numbers, too, to make it look like there's really good favorability for him? Cut to the results, right? He paid 50 grand for this shit. The CNBC poll, he didn't even break the top 100 business people, despite having like full-on fuckery, full-on fuckery engaged in the poll. And then for the Drudge one, I think he only got like barely broke 5% of the share of popular candidates. So A, in true Trump fashion, they found a person who was terrible at their job, even cheating at fixing polls.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Cheating at cheating. Yeah. And then like you said, he asked him to start an account for himself, Michael Cohen, on Twitter called at women for Cohen. And the bio is amazing. It has, first of all, a photo of Michael Cohen that is not very flattering to begin with. And it says, women who love and support Michael Cohen. Strong, pitbull, sex symbol, no nonsense, business oriented, and ready to make a difference. Wow. What the fuck? Pitbull?
Starting point is 00:39:20 Sex symbol? Sex symbol. I mean, that reads- You can't just say that. I wonder- You can't just say that. I wonder if Michael Cohen secretly wants to be Mr. 305 Worldwide Pitbull. Right. And he's like, yeah, I think of myself as the lawyer version of Pitbull. I'm a sex symbol.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Sex symbol? Yeah. I don't know. And the tweets are so painful. There's shit in there. It's like, oh, it's never too late for an mcm selfie look at this photo that they posted what is mcm miles man crush monday oh okay okay it looks like he just got out of prison yeah yeah or like it's or like a like the unabomber caught on surveillance
Starting point is 00:39:56 camera or something like looking like oh looking really the the thing women like in a man is jowls just like some nice fluffy jowls but you know you know how awful that has to feel to pay to appear to be liked but and still really dislike like that has to be an awful thing to go to sleep at night with yeah and also like the hellscape that is inside of his mind yeah where he's like well they don't like. So the solution is to create a Twitter account that only has 1,200 followers to help out with your optics. He did this all back when he was still working for Trump? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Okay. At the direction of Trump. Because then Michael Cohen tweeted today. He's like, yeah, it's true. What you read in the Wall Street Journal. Because the reason this even came out is that the guy was like, again, in true Trump world fashion, didn't get all his money that he was promised. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And they say that the first payment came, this guy, John Gager, says in his Trump organization office, Mr. Cohen surprised the man, John Gager, by giving him a blue Walmart bag containing between $12,000 and $13,000 in cash and randomly a boxing glove that Mr. Cohen said had been worn by a Brazilian mixed martial arts fighter. Wow. So he's like, hey, man, here's a Anderson Silva, one Anderson Silva glove and $13 straight cash. Do we have a deal? Like, is this good for a down payment?
Starting point is 00:41:16 Wow. Walmart bag? Come on now. You can't even put it in the Louis bag or something? Make it feel criminal? Unassuming, though. Unassuming. But yeah, I do feel bad for him now.
Starting point is 00:41:27 I mean, not even... In a way, but like... Yeah, I mean, I don't feel... No, right. I feel bad for the human being, but I can't ignore... If I took all the details out about who this person is and who he's affiliated with, the thought of a person who is so desperate to change how people perceive them that they paid somebody to create a fake Twitter account that loves them.
Starting point is 00:41:48 And then still failed at that. It's like levels of failure. And then it's revealed that you did that and you failed at it. It's like the inception of fuckery. I still think back though to his appearances Like during the Republican National Convention When he would just go on news channels And just be like so brutal And be like physically intimidating to people Like Michael Cohen
Starting point is 00:42:12 I'm just like I don't feel sorry for this dude No no I don't feel bad for him I just imagine if this was someone who was your friend And you found out you're like damn Did you hear about Eric? Right He made a bunch of fake your friend and you found out you're like damn did you hear about about eric right he fucking he made just take an l he made a bunch of fake instagram accounts to like be a fan club right
Starting point is 00:42:32 and all he does is bartend at the kibbutz room exactly damn uh shout out to any bartenders at the kibbutz room nah well daily zeitgeist yeah i have beef with the kibbutz room okay i used to play there a lot with my band and then you, you know, look, there was a misunderstanding. So I do want to talk one quick thing about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. So there was this story a couple weeks back where it kind of broke through to the mainstream that she had made a claim about health care costs that was inaccurate, and the fact-checking media was all over her. And so New York Mag had this article on their intelligence or blog where they just kind of looked at the fact-checking
Starting point is 00:43:12 process and how the mainstream media is treating the claims that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is making versus how they treat things that are being said by people on the right. So for fact-checking her, he looks at something that Max Boot was calling her out on. Max Boot is a real person? Yes. He's like the New York Post centrist guy who's like anti-Trump but also anti-Democrat. Okay. Sounds like a real party. Now Max Boot makes sense.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Right. Sounds like a real party. Now Max Boot makes sense. Right. So she rhetorically said that we need to take into account the cost of funerals and our health care costs when we're doing accounting for current health care costs. And people went into that and were like, well, funerals still cost stuff with Medicare for all and like really dug in on that point. And then there was also Jake Tapper. Wait, so she was saying that like it's like we live in a world now that like we have to think about our funeral costs and even how we're even as we live.
Starting point is 00:44:15 And she was also kind of making a comment about like how cynical this accounting is that you're just like, okay, well, what's a human life cost? And this person's rebuttal is like, there'll still be funerals even with Medicare for all. That's what a lot of people on Twitter were doing. And Max boot was doing it and that he only took that part of her quote, which was a longer statement that made a lot of really good points. And one of the points she made was that, so there was a study by this Koch brother funded libertarian think tank that put together all these numbers, estimates about healthcare costs over the next 20 years.
Starting point is 00:44:51 And if you apply universally agreed upon costs to all the different things that they were assuming, it found, like people when they did the math to their model found the current healthcare system costs American people $2 trillion more than it would under Bernie's Medicare for all. And so this is a Koch brothers- Right, that was like over 10 years or something, right? Yeah, and this is a Koch brothers fund study. So Bernie and AOC kind of jumped on that and were like, thank you so much for making this point for us, Koch brothers.
Starting point is 00:45:21 So Jake Tapper, Mr. Centrist Media, who's willing to tell it like it is, call balls and strikes on both sides, went to the author of the Libertarian Think Tank study and basically got their opinion on it and then used their opinion to basically be like, AOC is lying. She's not taking it under the way that it was meant to. He basically fact-checked her and said she was wrong about this. Oh, Jake Tapper. Jake Tapper did. Tapper, sorry. Wait, he went to the author of the study and the study that came to the conclusion that Medicare for All would be cheaper?
Starting point is 00:45:56 So you had to do additional math to their assumptions to then come to that conclusion. Oh, that Medicare for All would be cheaper. Medicare for All would be cheaper. Medicare for all would be cheaper. Oh, got you. And so he was like- So he basically fact-checked her. He fact-checked her, but in a way that was actually inaccurate.
Starting point is 00:46:12 And he just took the libertarians at their word. And it's because there is this, it's like called reporting from nowhere. Like we're not on the left, we're not on the right. We just call balls and strikes. Yeah, but suddenly you got a real knack for calling strikes suddenly for this person right because if you agree with aoc and what she's saying about medicare for all if you agree that our current health care system is completely fucked and that there are other countries that are doing it much better
Starting point is 00:46:38 than we are with like adding some socialized medicine into it, then you're on the left. And so they have a bias against the truth if the truth is being stated by somebody who's seen as leftist. Right. And so he is going out of his way to make up facts, to fact check someone because they're on the left. And the point this person is making is that sometimes the truth has a leftist bias, like that the truth is on the left. And he pointed out centrist reporting from nowhere from the journalism industrial complex that was unwilling to believe the left in the run-up to the Iraq war when we were like,
Starting point is 00:47:16 yo, there are no weapons of mass destruction. They built this case out of nothing. They knew they wanted to go to war with Iraq. Like the New York Times, everybody was like, well, that's what the left is saying. But then Bush is saying this thing. And it's like, no, like one side is using empiricism, guys. And the other side is just using bullshit. And like you guys have to actually like what is your bias? Is your bias towards just always being in the middle of the two sides?
Starting point is 00:47:42 Or is it towards trying to report the truth? Yeah. What's like, well, then but then we would always be saying the left is right. Right. Exactly. And then we're going to look like, well, then it is what it is. Right. Well, you know, it just sort of underlines the fact that the ideas that AOC has are a
Starting point is 00:47:59 direct threat to the status quo. And you have shit like this because she's she has ideas that are fucking good yes and that are disruptive to the the health care industry and many other industries to the energy sector and so yeah it's it's funny to always see like especially like centrist democrat type people be like well i don't know about very nervous i mean these are good ideas but you know yeah i mean do young people really not want to be saddled with debt their whole lives for health costs? Really? I mean, I don't believe that. It sounds like some socialism stuff. Right. And by the way, to kind of prove the opposite point that you can get things done with these sort of ideas that are outside the mainstream.
Starting point is 00:48:37 I mean, now Medicare for all is like a mainstream point of view, a democratic belief that was was seen as far to the left a long time ago. Well, that's the thing about the truth, man. It will touch everybody at some point. Yeah. And even if you thought, oh, well, this sounds like a socialist idea, there are people on the entire spectrum of political ideologies who are looking objectively at their situation when it comes to health care and go, this is fucked up.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Yeah. Like, how the fuck, like, how am I in a situation where you have to say can i afford to live right yeah exactly that's a thing and i tweeted this article out about the aoc like the fact-checking bias and her so she then went on to be like you know fact-checking sometimes is more focused on like numbers than the big picture and this is the force for the trees and people like oh she doesn't like facts now. And so I tweeted out this article that was kind of making the argument I just made and pointing out
Starting point is 00:49:30 and somebody was like, oh yeah, because funeral costs are going to be better when AOC's in power. Like they just took the thing that... That's not the point. No one's saying that Medicare for All isn't a fucking invincibility serum for everybody to live forever.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Yeah. Anyways, it's an interesting time. What a time to be alive. But I mean, if people didn't take things out of context and make it what they wanted to, then would we even have news media? Would there even be a conversation or a debate? Well, yeah. Now the news is more of trying to act as a corrective measure against people with terrible ideas. But that's, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:08 You need history, man. You need history. Even recent history, just looking at the run-up to the Iraq War, the run-up to the first Iraq War, how the right manipulated facts to do these things that ended up killing lots of people, and how the mainstream media fucked it up and like let it happen because that's that's where you'll find a model for like how this thing actually works but yeah journalism in the moment does not seem to be up to the task for the most part all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back to talk about beer and girl scout cookies Defne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered there are crooks everywhere you look now the situation is desperate my name is Manuel Delia I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere,
Starting point is 00:51:05 a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden.
Starting point is 00:51:44 We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job?
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Starting point is 00:52:14 Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago,
Starting point is 00:52:51 when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground.
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Starting point is 00:53:53 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out?
Starting point is 00:54:06 I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams.
Starting point is 00:54:22 There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And there is a Craft Beer and girl scout cookies festival miles what the fuck is happening i don't know just a combination of words though i'm happy it's my interest yeah
Starting point is 00:54:55 uh yeah this is a it's a thing that's actually happening like all over the country but there was an article in the takeout that i read that i guess there's one on the 24th in Indianapolis where it's basically pairing like 10 craft breweries with a specific Girl Scout cookie. Oh, interesting. So things like, you know, this is an excerpt from an article. Cocoa nibs, vanilla bean and mint sprigs, flavor Fields Choco Mint Stout, a natural with thin mints. With peanut butter and jelly sandwiches in mind, Field Beer, partner a mixed berry infused Pilsner I mean, this is just like they're really trying to take our snacks to the next level with beer. That's interesting, though, because you always hear about wines being paired with savory food but like you can't pair a wine with fucking a sweet snack but maybe i don't know enough about wine i
Starting point is 00:55:54 don't know like it seems like it's like when you eat a bunch of m&ms and then drink a coke and it tastes like terrible water yeah because like the sugar bar is right the sugar bar has been raised but with beer like it's not sweet so it might just still work together yeah I'm more surprised that this was
Starting point is 00:56:12 sanctioned like an official event by Girl Scouts of America that's what I was gonna so I actually don't have a problem with that
Starting point is 00:56:18 I've never had beer before in my life because I hear that it tastes nasty and I don't even want to try it if like everybody thinks that it tastes nasty it's not a thing you're gonna drink go where the fuck have i where's
Starting point is 00:56:29 this been my whole life also too is there's so many things it's like there's a thing called a beer belly it's so many things i don't want and so why even try it girl scout cookies are good as shit regardless of what age you are and so to pair something that people really like like beer yeah with something else that people really like makes sense but it sounds a bit like taboo-y because Girl Scouts are like young and beer you have to be 21 and over so it seems really
Starting point is 00:56:54 like naughty but it's not. It's like Girl Scouts sell their cookies in front of the supermarket who goes shopping for groceries? Older people. Like it's not buying beer at Ralph's. Right, right. And they pick up a box of cookies on their way out to the parking lot.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Exactly. I've been saying the Girl Scouts should go down to Spring Break on Daytona Beach and sell their cookies there. And they would make a killing, you know? Yeah, it's like. Well, the best was I saw, like, on 420, like, when the Girl Scouts would be like, we know what's up. Do they really? Yeah, and I saw it in the Valley. Like, when the Girl Scouts be like, we know what's up.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Do they really? Yeah, I saw it in the Valley. They were like, some cheeky parent was like, let's do a sign that's like, we know what day it is. Someone had a thing out there that was like, we know what day it is. And they were just there with our Girl Scout cookies. And I was like, I would buy all of these. I mean, as long as the Girl Scouts aren't in these actual bars. No, I think it's just that they're sanctioned by being like, yeah, you can use our cookies or whatever. We like that you're trying to take it to the next level.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Yeah, because, I mean, Girl Scouts, the reason why they sell their cookies is to get money for some sort of organization. I know that they're an organization. No, no, no, no, I know that. But, I mean, it's for something. It's not just like to pocket it like, hey, girls, we got money now. It's to go towards whatever they're learning whatever you know you're right yeah it's purposeful yeah and so if this allows their profit to go up yeah
Starting point is 00:58:12 to contribute to their i don't i don't see like bars aren't gonna close right and girl scouts need money yeah so no yeah what's the issue i much prefer giving money to the girl scouts than like nabisco or whoever. Right. Unless Nabisco starts advertising on our podcast. It's like twofold, though, too, because they wanted to help empower these girls to be like they can socialize. They'll learn about planning and having some sort of a business, like a little bit of business acumen because you're selling a product and things like that. But, yeah, it goes to a lot of their programs for like different, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:45 camps and things like that and STEM programs. Yeah, I think this is also just like has made it into the conversation because we're in the like Me Too times up, you know, we're exploring a lot of underage, like, you know, abuse and stuff like that. And so I think this is like one of those like really niche ways to enter into a conversation but I just don't even think it's a big deal
Starting point is 00:59:10 yeah no I mean I think personally I love Girl Scout cookies I like beer too so I feel like yes this sounds like a thing I will go to yeah I if you say hey Zainab come with me to like a bar crawl I'll say uh or like a beer function. And I'm like, well, I don't drink beer, so I won't go. They got Thin Mints, too. I'm there. It's like, you've just. You're like, you've sold me with Thin Mints.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Yeah. Right, yeah. Come with me to this thing. I don't know. We're climbing a mountain. Oh, we have Thin Mints, though. Okay. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:59:40 I like this. Wait, what's everyone's favorite Girl Scout cookie? My favorite Girl Scout cookie is Samoan. Samoas? Samoas. Samoas. No, Samoas. Samoas are the coconut ones?
Starting point is 00:59:50 Yeah, the coconut ones with the- The chocolate drizzle on it? Yeah. Ugh, sorry. Whoa, what's yours, Zaina? Sounds like you're a fan. Mine is definitely Thin Mints. Oh, that's right, yes.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Yes, but I also like the- There's like a shortbread one that they have, right? Yes. I love that one. That one's really good, too. But Thin Mints is definitely my favorite. I like whatever the – there's like a shortbread one that they have, right? Yes. I love that one. That one's really good too. But the mint is definitely my favorite. I like whatever the peanut butter one is. Yeah, those are pretty good too.
Starting point is 01:00:10 And you know what? That s'mores one. I was just about to say the s'mores. That you had at your house like last year. I was like, wait. They're so chemically flavored, but I was like this honors the s'more cookie figured out a new like chemical way to fit more sugar into a cookie form and that because it is just so fucking sweet but it's so good yeah did you have a s'more last year no new flavor no but i don't do s'mores i don't do marshmallows oh you
Starting point is 01:00:39 don't yeah no no okay okay well let's talk about some equally big news. Not quite as big as the Girl Scout craft beer festivals, but we might have discovered life on other planets. So there was the story about Oumuamua, the big oblong object that was flying through space that scientists were like, that doesn't make sense. And there were the Harvard scientists who speculated that it might be from another civilization. Like it was a probe or something? A probe. A scout ship. Yeah, it did not come from a natural source. Like it didn't make sense from that.
Starting point is 01:01:18 And then there was like water thrown on that argument. Like you saw a lot of scientists come out and be like, well, that's one possibility possibility but it's not the most likely right or just because it's possible doesn't mean that that's what it is right so the new yorker interviewed one of the guys behind that who was like one of the chairs of his department at harvard and he's still like he's like yeah man like this still seems weird to me it doesn't make sense. And he kind of lists all the things about it that don't make sense. The shape is the one thing I had heard, but he also says that the rate at which it's traveling, like we can calculate at what rate rock is ejected,
Starting point is 01:01:56 like from around the universe based on like history and nothing that we've seen has ever traveled like this or the direction that it's going. Like it's moving faster? It's weird. It's not moving relative to our sun, which is one of the only things they've ever seen that isn't moving relative to our sun. So it's actually moving slower, which suggests that it's not from-
Starting point is 01:02:19 So it's not even fucking with the sun's gravitational pull? Well, not even the sun's gravitational pull. It's like the sun and all the stars are moving kind of in the same direction like they're expanding you know in the same direction so everything's moving in this direction and then this motherfucker comes in from like out of nowhere and it's not going in the same direction it's actually moving slower i think they said than the sun and they don't know why they can't figure out they're like this doesn't make sense and then he explains he, the shape that we've all seen, the cigar-shaped thing, is based on one possibility. All we know is it's spinning and changing color, reflecting light, at a rate that would suggest that it's 10 times longer than it is wide.
Starting point is 01:03:03 suggests that it's 10 times longer than it is wide. But he says that the more likely explanation is that it's like one millimeter thin. So it's very long and very wide, but also one millimeter thin because of some aspect of how it's reflecting light back. And that's why he suggested light sail, because he thinks that pancake-shaped is the most likely explanation for it. And he's like, that's that shape just wouldn't like naturally exist. Right. So. So some alien sailors just coming through.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Yeah. They basically they compare it to, you know, a wind sail, but it's using the light of the sun to propel it. And that's like one of the ways they were able to explain how it would exist. And how long do we have before it gets to us? It actually shot through the solar system. It's already gone, I think. Oh, okay. Yeah. They already saw how fucked up it was.
Starting point is 01:03:56 They're like, don't tell them back home, man. We didn't see shit. Yeah. Don't fuck with them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, we did talk about the other possibility that this is one part of an alien spacecraft that is slowing down on its way to us
Starting point is 01:04:11 and you know the first thing that it discards would obviously go flying by first because that part's not slowing down but oh right that it's their booster rocket right that they've just jettisoned yeah this would be the first thing you saw in the movie independence day before the spaceship showed up yeah yeah what did we what did we see first didn't we well in that one it was just like a bunch of clouds and then there were huge right and then it just came out the clouds yeah they're like what's up they're gonna fucking hover over shit yeah um that movie. I still think about that shit. Yeah. Like, what if, though?
Starting point is 01:04:47 No, I think we're good, though, because we just have to upload a virus. A virus, yeah, via MacBook. Via MacBook. They have the MacBook connection. Yeah, perfect. They're like, oh, shit, it's USB-C? Right. Fuck, man, I have lightning.
Starting point is 01:05:01 So that seems like a plot hole, but they explain it because all of our computer technology is based off their shit when one of their people crash landed in Roswell. Oh, right, right, right. So we reverse engineered everything. So that's why we're able to upload it. Okay. So Independence Day truthers, I hear you. I'm out here for you. All right.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Lastly, the Motorola Razr is apparently coming back. Yeah. It's coming back in a big way. Okay. Okay. So what does that mean? First of all, everybody remembers the Motorola Razr flip phone. I never had one, but I do remember.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Yeah. Paris Hilton's favorite phone. Right. So it is coming back because I think Motorola is now owned by Lenovo. And this company has been talking about a foldable smartphone for a while. And what people seem to believe is that this new Razr is going to be a straight up foldable smartphone where like there's like a heated hinge in it. So like it'll correct heated. Yeah. So like whatever you close it like it'll help, I guess, like iron out any of the wrinkles made from actually folding the screen in half.
Starting point is 01:06:04 But anyway, it's going to be a foldable fucking smartphone for the very affordable price of $1,500. That seems like too much. I mean, when you consider most of these iPhones now are costing like $800, $1,000. So it'll just be smaller. Like it'll fit smaller.
Starting point is 01:06:20 I think if it's really the size of a Razr, that shit was like in half the size of a credit card. Or roughly around the size of a credit card. Yeah. I mean, that would be dope. All right. Well, are we throwing our Apple phones away?
Starting point is 01:06:32 Yeah. Okay, great. Fuck it. Hey, Lenovo, holler at us because I would love a $1,500 foldable smartphone. Although that feels like, oh. Well, what's the perk of it? I mean, besides just feeling like when you hang up on somebody, like, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Besides getting that bad. Yeah, you can be that reaction reaction gift with the dude constantly flipping clothes yeah yeah i think that's a selling point for me well and fitting in your pocket so you don't have to like yeah yeah and but it's gonna be like android or some yeah and i don't know how like you can never exchange good videos with somebody on Android over text. I mean, Apple did that shit. I don't want a screen that can fold. I mean, I probably sound like an old-ass lady who was like, I don't want telephone. I like when screens are rigid.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Well, we're the old-ass people because the only reason for this to come back is just fucking nostalgia. Us just being like, oh, I remember that. But I mean, even still, the razor didn't flip on the screen. You're describing the actual, the crease being on the actual screen. Yeah, imagine like, I think it would be like the centerfold of a magazine. That's crazy. Or like, imagine folding up your iPhone right now. No, Miles, don't.
Starting point is 01:07:40 That means there might be a seam in whatever screen that you're looking at. It just sounds a bit dysfunctional to me. But, you know, they're probably happy that it sounds dysfunctional and won't make her a believer. Yeah, well, look, you know, fold up your smartphones, you know, do that flex on people. But I guess, you know, I just hope they sort the ringtones out. What ringtone are you hoping for? Well, you know, because like on the old Motorola, back in the day, you could get ringtones, but they were weird old MIDI files of like, you'll have the fabulous hollaback young in
Starting point is 01:08:10 ringtone. It's like, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. And you're just like, oh, see that? Woo, woo. Versus now, you have actual audio files playing. Right. You used to have to just settle for some like like hand drawing the notes in some kind of uh comp worse than a bit like yeah compositions yeah it would definitely generate another income
Starting point is 01:08:31 in terms of publishing like you know there were a lot of acts especially hip-hop acts that they didn't know that ringtones were going to be a thing right so it wasn't built in their contract to protect that and so a lot of whoever owned their music or whatever made so much money off of the ringtone phenomenon, and they didn't because who knew? Yeah, because I remember they had T-Mobile on the sidekick. That was, I think, the first time, or at least I remember being so stoked because I was like, oh, look at this.
Starting point is 01:08:55 I got Mike Jones tipping. Yeah. That was my ringtone. Or Cassidy, I'm a hustler. The music industry knew. That's who knew. Yeah. The music industry has been making more money over the past 10 years than I think it ever has.
Starting point is 01:09:09 They're just... Despite the Woe Is Me streaming and MP3s. Yeah, despite all that shit, they figured out a way to make artists get screwed over while they continued to make all the money. Fantastic. Yeah, so good for them. Because that's really who is making the music is the people behind the industry. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Just stay independent, guys. You know, it's very easy to say. I think just we brushed over the fact that Apple like makes it impossible to trade videos with people on Android. I think like of the Overton window things that we ignore, the fact that Apple is basically openly just admitting like the way we made money for all these years was forced obsolescence like we know that now like we they were breaking our phones on purpose so that we would buy new phones and we're just like yeah yeah well okay i mean it makes sense i mean this new one's pretty cool yeah exactly yeah i spent like 3 400 in the last couple years on the ship right Right. Exactly, man.
Starting point is 01:10:06 And their sales completely plummeted when they started letting us replace their batteries. Anyway, Zainab, it's been so fun having you. Thanks for having me. Where can people find you again? On every social media platform, I'm Zainab Johnson, Z-A-I-N-A-B Johnson. I would really love for your listeners to check out my podcast. It's called Honest Tea with Z. It's H-O-N-E-S-T-N-A-B Johnson. I would really love for your listeners to check out my podcast. It's called Honest Tea with Z. It's H-O-N-E-S-T-E-A with Z.
Starting point is 01:10:29 That's on iTunes, so check that out. And I have a website, ZainabJohnson.com. Z-A-I-N-A-B Johnson.com. Now, do you have any legal issues with the tea, Honest Tea? No. You should get them to sponsor your show. I would love to get them to sponsor. Isn't that like a tea iced tea company
Starting point is 01:10:46 also yeah because i'm really high in 7-eleven a lot of the time yeah that's funny honest tea yes they do honest and the word tea right i only use one tea oh see okay yeah yeah yeah what do you talk about on the show i talk about anything and everything um yeah anything and everything sometimes it's sometimes it's like pop culture. Sometimes it's like what's in the news cycle. Sometimes it's just whatever is going on in my life. Like it could be as simple as one day I did an episode on me. Like I was asking my listeners to help me be more empathetic in life because I noticed that when a homeless person was coming towards my car, one day the first thing I did was lock the door.
Starting point is 01:11:25 And he had no arms. And I was like, I mean, what could he even do for me? And so I think that episode was called Better Safe Than Sorry. And I was just trying to find, like, within my own self, a happy medium. Yeah. You know, to, like, protect myself, but also be way more empathetic to people who are suffering in the world. But what's fun about my show,
Starting point is 01:11:44 which is that I include a bunch of soundbites to get you through it. If I mention anybody, then I'm going to play whatever is their most popular soundbite to get you to understand who I'm talking about. Right, right, right. Or whatever clips help me make it as fun as possible. So check it out.
Starting point is 01:11:59 All right. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? A tweet? Yeah. The way I said a tweet sounds like no. Apparently not. Right? No.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Okay. No. Miles. Drake? Drake? I was thinking of that Soulja Boy clip. Yes, you can follow me on Instagram and Twitter at Miles of Grey. What's funny, when you talk about, it just reminded me that in LA on January 22nd to the 24th is the,
Starting point is 01:12:28 uh, like official homeless count, uh, where I'm going to volunteer for it, but basically going around the County to try and do the largest, uh, like, like head count to understand like how big our homeless community is in LA.
Starting point is 01:12:41 So if you live in LA, uh, please look into that, uh, and look up the Greater Los Angeles Homeless Count because that is, they need as many volunteers as possible because we're canvassing like 4,000 square miles to be able to count all of our neighbors who are living in the street. Yeah. And I used to, I'm so sorry. I used to think that it was like LA was the, if you had to be
Starting point is 01:12:58 homeless, LA was the better place to be homeless because of the weather. But as you can see, it's getting colder and it's raining and i can only imagine sometimes it's uncomfortable inside my house right because of the way la properties they're not really built with insulation right yeah you know and so i can only imagine now just being on the street yeah awful and it's good to just have to know to get an understanding of like what the community looks like in L.A. too, because that'll help. Hopefully, you know, we're trying to build more support housing for these people. But it's a fight that will continue.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Yes. So tweet I like comes from, you know, the goddess Mariah Carey. She's on her account. Everybody was doing the 10 year challenge. And she just posted a picture, the same picture twice, side by side. And she goes, I don't get this 10-year challenge. Time is not something I acknowledge. And then with an asterisk, picture taken at some point prior to today. Okay, well, you do you, queen. And did anybody respond with, like, a performance from hers 10 years ago?
Starting point is 01:14:03 Oh, yeah, her phoning it in like yeah like i mean that's an acknowledgement hey come on come on come on come on we already know her with her non-dancing uh yes but uh also another one is so chris hansen from to catch a predator he got arrested did he yeah because he was writing fucking bad checks. What? So someone quote tweets the TMZ thing that says, to Catch a Predator host, Chris Hansen arrested over bounce checks. And then Mark Normand, at Mark Norm, in quotes says, do you remember me?
Starting point is 01:14:38 Why don't you have a seat? And then it says, Chris Hansen's cellmate. All right. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore o'brien a couple tweets i liked rachel's syme at rachel syme tweeted rip mary oliver your words will live on and tweeted a screen cap of a poem for mary oliver that i won't read here but it's real good. So I suggest people check it out. At MFC Erickson pointed out that Big Wheel is like an important person or a higher up. And then he said, remember the Simpsons when Milhouse said his dad was, quote, a pretty big wheel down at the Cracker Factory.
Starting point is 01:15:19 And then he said, so pretty solid joke by Mike Huckabee, which is not true. And then just a fun tweet I like from Britt at It's Burls tweeted, Hits blunt, blunt hits back. Me, whoa. Blunt. Yeah, be careful next time. Blunt hits back. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
Starting point is 01:15:41 We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we write out on Miles. What song are we writing out? This is a track by Jumanji, J-O-O-M-A-N-J-I.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Not the actual, the version that's copywritten. And this song is called Chase and Rhymes featuring Sara Maria. Get into that. A little lo-fi beat action. Listen. You'll like it. Enjoy. I want to see how long you can keep that going.
Starting point is 01:16:16 I lose esteem very quickly when I begin a sentence without knowing how it's going to end. All right. We're going to ride out on that. We will be back on Tuesday. Oh. We are taking Monday off. Yes. For Martin Luther King Day.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Yes, sir. So, you know, sorry we won't be there Monday, but we will be back Tuesday. Yes. We have to honor some holidays. And we will see some of you this Saturday
Starting point is 01:16:39 up in San Francisco. Okay, you already said that. Have a great weekend. But also, please. Be safe. Come hang out with us. Yes, please. We're very lonely.
Starting point is 01:16:48 We're staying up late. Saturday night. Come hang out. What else? What else? All right, guys. Talk to you later. Bye. I'm taking up the pieces
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