The Daily Zeitgeist - Coachella To Forced Birth Pipeline, The US Is One Big Murderhouse 07.27.22

Episode Date: July 27, 2022

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The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 247, episode 3 of Dirt Daily's iGuys! Ah, production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it's Wednesday, July 27, 2022, which of course means miles. You know what's wild? I feel like this is the first day where i'm remembering the days that

it's been like from like maybe doing this a year now i'm like dude it's national creme brulee day again in my mind i thought we had said this before could be totally off also national again this is the other reason i remember new jersey day out in Jersey. And you will be hearing me get into character as Jersey Jack over the course of the week. Spending next week in Jersey, so you know, Cinderblock Jack as they call me back in Jersey.

On the boards. Anyways, creme brulee, the crust of rock candy that gets created when they flame that shit at the top. From the brulee. Yeah. Just like candy glass.

It is candy glass. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. If I only could, I'd drink a Dew with God. And I'd ask how I'll get to Lambo. Be drinking Flamin' Hot. Be drinking Baja Gold. Be drinking Spark and Maui Burst.

That is courtesy of Fighter of the Nightman on the Discord and DZiteGang for bringing it from the Discord bubbling it up to the surface. Appreciate both y'all. Appreciate the great Kate Bush and Mountain Dew.

Somebody hit me and was like, thanks for building up Baja Blast. I finally had it. It's not good. And it's like, yeah, man. I'm not proud of my affinity for Baja Blast or Mountain Dew. It's just a flavor of Mountain Dew that is the right amount of rounded and pleasing.

It's not going to cure cancer. It will give you cancer. Allegedly. Allegedly. I still can't seem to hit the magic number of the amount of Baja Blast you have to drink. Also, while I'm getting resentments out against listeners, somebody hit me up and was like, I finally did the water in scrambled eggs thing trick that Jack was talking about. It just tasted like water. I was like, motherfucker, did you think that I was telling you to use water as a seasoning? It's for the texture. And then you add salt and pepper if you want seasoning, my friend. Your jersey's showing.

All right. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Yo, I'll tell you how are you, how are really, really you. So tell me how are you, how are really, really you. I'll tell you how are you, how are really, really you. So tell me how are you, how are really, really you. I want a how, I want a how, I want a how, I want a how. I want a really, really, really. Hey, how are you? How are really, really you? So tell me, how are you? How are really, really you? I want a how. I want a how. I want a how. I want a how.

I want a really, really, really. Hey, how are you? Get to Lambo. If you, if how are you? Get to Lambo. You got to get way more friends. Make it last forever. Content never ends.

If how are you? Get to Lambo. You have got to give. Social is too easy, but that's the way it is. So you want a Lambo, you have got to give. Social is too easy, but that's the way it is. So you want a Lambo? How are you? Get to Lambo. Okay, anyway, shout out La Caroni.

You know, we've just been talking so much about. How are you? Get to Lambo. That's pretty much the, that's what youth hustle culture has told me over and over. As I look at TikTok gurok gurus youtube gurus influencers it all ends all paths end at lambo there it is but it's the thesis statement that i got my doctorate in in the school of hustle the grind grindology where's that ted talk where someone's got their hands clasped in front of the page but the true question i set out to answer and they're like they use their

little clicker to put the new image up how are you get to lambo yes i mean you just remind me of someone who i really like but just got some steve jobs rims on their glasses and they are and it's like taking over their whole persona no like yeah and i really like them them. And like, I don't mind it actually because it's working for them. And they're like an interesting person. But I don't know. Like, it's a bold move. Try some Steve Jobs rims and see if it suits your personality. When you said Steve Jobs rims, I thought that was for your car at first.

Yeah. I was like, yo, what are Steve? I'm like, yo, this can't be. There are no buttons. It's a very sleek design yeah yeah and just it was developed by screaming at a bunch of developers to say if you can't fucking figure it out i'll find the fuckers who can for less money yes all right well miles we are thrilled speaking of the fuckers who can we are thrilled to be joined uh once again by a writer

who's one of the best podcast hosts and executive producers doing it you know him from stuff they don't want you to know ridiculous history among many others please welcome the brilliant and talented ben bolin yes oh i'm back you're back baby yes thank you oh Oh, man. Well, it's summer in Atlanta, guys, which is where I'm based, which also means that you know me. You see my pale, pale face there on the Zoom. It's vampire rules for me until autumn, man.

So catch me after sunset. I don't care. Yeah. We were just talking yesterday about how our last guest was getting anxiety from seeing people try and battle the sun. And I like to go, no, I'm learned. And I choose to do battle with a different opponent. I love that. I was listening actually earlier today.

I wanted to check in mainly. So I was aware. So I had my finger on the pulse or the zeitgeist whatever but uh but i was i was thinking about that too summer is summer is kind of brutal here i almost want to say it's overrated but i don't want to season shame people so the big the big news on our end now i'm like required by our corporate overlords to say this. We wrote a book. Hell yeah. That's coming out.

Damn. You just brought that in like a magic trick from the side of your thing. Now, granted, it was not a good magic trick, but it was enough for me to be like, whoa, he had that. It's wild. Outside of the frame the whole time. When you prefaced the corporate overlords demanded, I was like, oh shit, what's he about to say?

We're getting canceled live on the air. Guys, welcome to Bagel Fest. fest yeah does everybody have a bagel okay this is bagel fest call back to yesterday's episode from the guests okay has that happened before yeah it's happened like twice i think ever and both from, who is a fucking professional. Oh, well, you guys, you know, after you've had me on a certain amount of times, I need to help my game. I need to do a little homework. Right. Yeah. Very impressive. We even have a show, a story on the show that you pitched, which we're going to get to in a moment. But real quick stuff they don't want you to know. Tell us about the book. That's what it's called. Right. Stuff they don't want you to know tell us about the book that's what it's called right stuff they don't want you to know yeah yeah we took our awkwardly overly long name of our podcast made it the awkwardly overly long name of a book mainly because we thought when we first started

that show we thought we'd get fired in like two weeks you know yeah uh so same same i know right so that shows stuff they don't want you Know, applies critical thinking to allegations of the paranormal, to government cover-ups, to things that are called conspiracy theories, which is often a dirty word nowadays, especially with the way it's being used, right, in media and what we immediately associate with it, which is far-right wingnuts and cartoons, right?

Just clowns out there. But this book is one of several coming out and it looks at conspiracies in terms of how they evolve. And then it also looks at the very true, very disturbing stories of government coverups in the past, like on a previous episode of Daily Zeitgeist, where we talked about nuclear experiments or nuclear testing in the Marshall Islands, which is an ongoing tragedy. So if I disappear, you guys, if I get Epstein'd, hopefully it's because of this book. That will mean we did a good job. I thought you were using disappear as a verb and saying if you disappear us which oh

right right right right i'm too big of a fan you can't threaten us technically legally on yeah we just checked with iheart legal i'm i can't i'd love to say that but i just have to do it i see miles frantically texting legal uh like hey this is taking a weird turn no man he's just said this i will say we started the daily zeitgeist more in a like in a in a realm that was probably closer to mainstream news than it is today and we have slowly like the the longer we've been doing it the longer i've had you know just a iv drip of what is actually happening in this country in my arm. Five years now, the more it's gotten close to stuff they don't want you to know. It's just, it's a bad.

The Homer Bush, the Homer Bush gif where you, you emerged. Yeah, man. It's a a it's a weird time i uh i don't think anybody saw it coming in in completely the way that this stuff has worked out our pal good friend of all three of us uh robert evans called it a while back he's right we got no chumps in the squad really when it comes to this kind of stuff so So I want to thank you guys for not shying away from saying the quiet parts out loud, talking about some of the big problems and still being so brilliant and funny. I'm not blowing smoke. Are you about to fire us, man?

Justin, cut all this shit. Cut all this shit. He's about to fire us. Hold on, hold on. No, no, no. He's softening the blow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Out, out, out, out.

All right, then. Appreciate the cut. No, I'm us. Hold on. Stopping the blow. Out. Alright, Ben. Moving on. That was my own terrible compulsion to never be able to take a compliment. Nah, nah, nah. This show sucks. Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. Wait, wait, wait.

Before you move on. Any piece of pop culture he's talking about, I'd be like, alright, I'll hear you out. But like if it likes our show i'm like shut the fuck up ben moving on tell us about mr belvedere before we move on i want to i want to shout out one of the most beautiful moments i had today is i popped on where we're recording on a zoom and we all had these sharp looking hats that as as you guys pointed out are representing our cities justin had one as well and it's in chicago he had the bulls hat on i got it i got uh you guys are rocking la i've got the atlanta hat and i i felt like first i love being able to curse on a show i don't do that a lot of other shows i felt like, first, I love being able to curse on a show. I don't do that on a lot of other shows. I felt like we were at a fucking Lids meeting.

Yeah. The executive board of Lids convenes for the Q3 meeting. Does anyone in Zeitgang work for Lids Corporate? Please tell me, do you have Zoom or Teams calls and everybody has to have what they call a lid on? Because that was where my imagination went. They're like, Jack's not wearing a lid on the call yeah where's your lid man oh i got this dodgers hat at a dodgers game like a real chump a couple months ago and it has not

left my head for like more than a couple hours i i just i like it i like having it on and it gives me an option that is not my Sixers hat, which is cursed as we've talked about. So, all right, Ben, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about the owners of Coachella, uh, how they like funding right wing extremist bullshit and just generally how money moves in this version of America that is fueled by hyper-wealthy billionaires. We're going to talk about the Georgia Guidestones. This is the pitch.

This is the story that Ben brought to our attention that I just wanted to use as a jumping-off point to discuss some of the spookiest i think of america as like a a giant haunted house that we all live in i think it's a you know carnival of horrors uh both present and past yeah i think inherently any colonized land is a haunted house it's just kind of the trade-off for it they're like oh this wasn't, well, it's spooky and haunted. Yeah. All of that, plenty more. But first, Ben, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history?

Yeah. So a lot of, due to the nature of my job, my search history is trashed. You know what I mean? The NSA is probably like this fucking guy again. So I- Do you use DuckDuckGo? First of all, what's your search engine? Not something I usually ask people, trashed you know what i mean the nsa is probably like this fucking guy again so i i use duck duck go with your first of all with your search engine not something i usually ask people but because you are on every every watch list yeah every watch list no i like duck duck go there are a couple of things that require you to use chrome so i have kind of a made-up chrome persona but it's such a

unnecessary song and dance because any any expert in the world of security will be like okay sure uh dave davidson or whatever you know i'm not fooling anybody but duck duck go i like your favorite website is baseball.com okay just dave davidson love going to baseball.com every day you know i just love america's past time. Yeah. Yeah. Search history. So recently I revisited the idea that's been making the rounds a while about banks buying up not just houses, but neighborhoods. It's a of complicated because there are like, if you look at the US, all of it, there are about 140 million of what we would call housing units. And that could be anything from an opulent mansion to a multifamily apartment building to like what you think of as a starter house for people, you know, three bedrooms, two baths, whatever.

a starter house for people, three bedrooms, two baths, whatever. Of those banks, it turns out, or actually these institutional investors are buying a pretty small slice of the pie, but they're targeting very specific neighborhoods. And that's where the danger is. And this is huge in Atlanta. This is huge in some surprising places. One example would be an entire town in Texas got purchased by an institutional investor and that made the Wall Street Journal. But the more I look at it, and you know, very self-centered person here, I was like, oh, maybe I can buy a house, not to profit off human misery, but things are kind of going into the tank. So maybe I can afford one, you know, just riding the coattails of catastrophe. And I was very wrong because there is a huge

housing bubble and I wanted to figure out what other players were in the game. And for years, you know, there's been this, I think, kind of dangerous narrative that's based in fact about like, oh, foreign investors are parking cash and real estate in the U.S. and Canada as a way of keeping their wealth, right? Making their little dragon horde of coins and playing Monopoly. Yeah, it's Wolverine. Was that the name of the movie where they entered? Red Dawn. Red Dawn.

Red Dawn, yeah. The Wolverines were the team name, but yeah. That's right, right, right. It's all just they are invading via real estate purchases. Much less cool. But, you know, the Russians are coming for you, the Chinese. It's always communist nations. Yeah, it gets xenophobic really quickly because it's the kind of argument that people who are like, show me a racist without saying you're racist, love to get really involved in.

And they'll start with the agreeing points, which you know quantitative and provable and then they'll they'll you can always hear it switch in the tone where they start to say and you know the chinese and i'm like do i do i know all 1.3 billion fucking people in that country well they're all one person and right realistically where racists roam free yeah so i think that's i mean i think that that is a problem i don't know what you guys see out in california i don't have a lot of on the ground experience there anytime i'm in la i'm just like asking you guys or someone in that crew where to start or home a good starter that's my opener hey guys can you take me around to some places that might be a nice starter home yeah um yeah i i actually just had a friend of mine from way back who now you know works for one of these companies that's like buying everything up and he was just like yeah man like this is you know works for one of these companies that's like buying everything up and he was just

like yeah man like this is you know he he does he does the job it's probably like not something he's like super happy about but he's like this is everything is going away like home ownership is going away because they are using like they have access to wealth that individuals don't. Like, the deck is so stacked in favor of corporations that, like, that's, yeah, we're all just going to be paying rent, like, very soon. Yeah. Well, and that's the whole built-to-rent market is, like, it's a whole thing where it's like, no, no, no, we're not here for ownership. We're here for repeat customers until they die. And it's interesting, too, because I think Georgia actually has the, like has the like the highest concentration of like homes that are owned by institutional investors california less so but i think overall like depending on where you live it's like could be black rock

buying up all the fucking the homes and shit or i think the bigger thing is that we don't have enough actual like support from the municipalities and zoning laws to build affordable housing, which is the fucked up part, too, where there is certainly a lot of the existing properties are being bought up. But we're also not doing anything to spur the production of affordable housing either. It's like, oh, you want to build a behemoth skyscraper fuck face tower? OK, that's yeah, yeah, yeah yeah we'll go with that oh wait you want to buy some like single family homes that are like they're going to be affordable for like regular people unless so sounds like peasant talk yeah anywhere you were in a financial transaction with a corporation in america you were losing because they have so much more capital to work with and legal expertise.

And so it's just, you know, a stacked deck that is going to get more stacked. So I share those passwords, folks. Start small. Yeah, that's what, like, you're exactly right. It's nail on the head structural advantages. Those are a big thing. And they create a positive feedback loop in a very negative way, I would say. Yeah, right, for that. And positive feedback loops for them. Yeah, exactly. And it's weird because I was also trying to talk to you.

I'm not really a both-sider at this point in civilization, but I wanted to get news right from the source, say nobody thinks they're a bad guy in that situation. What are these Black Rocks or these homes for sale? It's number four. They save a little on the ink. They pass the savings to you. They'll eat this shit up. People love numbers. People love numbers. What love numbers. So they what I found from those sources was that they they said they offer a better service through renting because they is such a corporate word. They professionalize it. But it ends up being worse for the people because think about it. You are. And so many folks in the audience today have experienced this. You are a would-be homeowner, right? You want to stop throwing

your money down the hole of rent. And so you go to a neighborhood that fits your specifications, right? Homes are a little lower priced. This may not be the poshest neighborhood in town, but it has a good school district. Those are the same things those institutional investors are looking for. So you go to a house, you say, is this available? And someone says, you know, hi, I'm Dave Davidson from BlackRock.

This guy's everywhere. And he says, we would love for you to rent this home. And you say, no, we'd like to buy it. And they go, oh, okay. All right, get out. And then you go to the next house, and it's another guy. And he's like, oh, yeah. I'm Davis Davidson.

I guess. You're just Dave Davidson with your hat on backwards. You go to the next house. Hi, I'm MrBaseball.com. Yes. What the fuck? You're just Dave Davidson with your hat sideways. And that's why we brought Ben in here to tell you.

I mean, that doesn't sound too good, does it, folks? But that's why we brought Ben here to tell you about a really exciting opportunity to invest in a timeshare that we have available to you. And I think also just to kind of take your both sides take just a slightly sincere route. It is not all companies like black rock like for example i just closed on my fifth rental income property i just bought and i'm seeing some pretty great returns i then what's funny is i really started making money until i had three rental properties so just something to keep in mind gotta stack them gotta stack them up and miles is my downstream so i have 16 and then my

i mean that's i honestly that is a valid point because there are a lot of people who have like they have day jobs they have like maybe they had a house in their family or something or maybe they bought a new house they held on to it and now they are they are what you would call mom and pop landlords for lack of a better term. Yeah, but they're not the same thing by any means. These folks, those kind of landlords, are not the ones going in and saying, I will take both of these mobile home parks. I will buy this. Yeah, exactly.

Mobile home parks are fucking getting absolutely thrashed right now by institutional investors and i mean i can there's already like they're already squeezing people who are already like being like i don't know where else i can live that's more affordable than this and they're like i don't know man our market research shows we can squeeze you guys for a little bit more all right ben let's take a quick break and then we'll come back and get your underrated and overrated, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members

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This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. And we're back. And Ben Bolin, we like to ask our guest, what is something that you think is underrated? Okay. Underrated, and this is inspired in part by you, Miles. Underrated, making your own national day or making your own micronation. The rules for both of these are super lax and way more approachable than I ever dreamed. Really? Yeah.

All you have to do, this is easier than it sounds. I swear to God. All you have to do to get like a, what's something you want to have a national day for anything. Blunts. Blunts. National blunt date.

Love it. So, so all you have to do is get a local representative to bring it up. Right. In Congress. Yeah. In a legislative body. Oh, okay. You can do it at the state level too i think oh and you guys have some yeah we need to take down a golf we need to do a take down the golf course this day oh yeah nationally so what level so it has to be at the state level if we we get a state legislature, someone in the state legislature?

I think you can pull it at the state level. So obviously, the big deal would be federal level, but you can get, I think, the state Congress to pass something. And really, all that means is you just have to have everybody distracted enough to say yeah fine whatever right right like that's great because i mean just like renewing the patriot act under the national mr gorbachev tear down this wall day but then it'll actually be about the walls around golf courses in los angeles yeah and they didn't know or tear off my

balls which is yeah tear off my ass but that's okay i like this i like that we can get a national day going and then so i'm now i'm really now i'm really starting to strategize what the best way is to get the okay micro nation though what are we talking about? Yeah, how do I get a Micronation? Okay. Micronation. Oh, one example for holidays at state versus federal level. Only 18 states, I think, as of last month, have made Juneteenth a state holiday. Right. So you can make something a state holiday. I leave it to you. This is perfect, because I have Compromat on Ted Lieu and Adam Schiff.

Wow. Out here in LA. So yeah, we could get some. There we go. Psych gang right into me. We'll present them with a few ideas. Yeah, give them a pitch. Let me know how it goes.

And when you get bored of that, then you could do something I always want to do. You guys know what micro-nations are. They're basically, they're like micro-states, except they're not fully recognized by other countries or the united nations one of the most famous is the principality of sealand which is right there off the coast of the uk it's an old military fort and this guy just had a mood about him moved there and said i am you know it's very european pop a flag i am in charge of this now right and uh and so i was wondering how you get to do that

like how do you hutzpah aside how do you make that actually work and the true story is it's so ridiculous it's dumb okay i rarely say that i try to be optimistic it's a dumb game yeah all you have to step one raise a small army step two arm yourselves with small nuclear weapons all right oh yep that one works but the the the thing with uh micronations or really any state geopolitically is you just have to get enough other countries to say yeah you know fine okay you know jacklandia all right that works we didn't that seems like a tall order though like what i gotta like holler at the fucking queen or some shit like what yeah yeah how do you get those approvals you're like i checked with mexico they're good yeah guys i have

a doctor's note from mexico yeah and it says it says ben bolivania is a real place. We're working live, but, but, uh, so that's what I think is underrated. I mean, yes, obviously getting a state level holiday or a national day is much more approachable than building your own, building your own country. I acknowledge one of those is more ambitious, but I think, I think it's surprising, at least I was surprised, that you could just, if you catch a local rep on the right day, they might say, yeah, you know?

Why not? I like this. What's something you think is overrated? I don't really like to do this one, but I feel like I'm... That's what I thought you were going with. I don't really like to do this one, but I feel like... Billy Bob Thornton's performance in Sling Blade. That's what I thought you were going with.

French fried potatoes. Apple performance. Yeah, I've got a little old frog in my throat. French fried potatoes. Whatever. Yeah. Okay, yeah, I know that. Sorry, Billy.

Not your best friend. I made it Sling Blade references in 2022. I know, I did. You've made fun of me before for that. I know. I got to fight it. An actual gen. A genius.

Yeah. I'm always like, don't do a sling blade reference. Jack, stop it. Jack, stop. It's so good. Jack, you're shooing for that sling blade reboot, man. Everybody knows it. Oh, I know what we're doing for our next image.

Someone's getting Photoshopped into Sling Blade. You actually won't even be able to tell that it's been blended. It's just going to be. The magic of acting. Yes. Overrated. Sometimes it feels like beating a dead horse, but SCOTUS, man, Supreme Court,

explaining that to people who aren't in the US and having to go, yeah, we're a democracy. Like, oh, well, who's the final authority? Well, you remember Lord of the Rings? We got these kind of like ringwraiths and they're there forever and you can't really stop them. It's weird. think it's it's a bummer to talk about for a lot of people i know we're probably going to get to some of this today but um i would make i would rate that even worse than summer in atlanta which is also incredibly rated yeah holy cow i mean that's jack and sling what is so fast damn yeah miles has access to an app that blends blends faces that's what i do is i just think of things jack like movies he likes i'm like hey what about this one he's like dude it's three

in the morning yeah but you're rocky and i'm creed um so for everybody who's actually you you as ivan drago was oh yeah so much like Elon Musk, man. It's crazy. It's weird. My face on a white, like with white skin, and I end up looking like Elon Musk or Julian Assange. It's weird. Anyways, I know you were trying to make a serious point.

Yeah, I'm sorry. No, no, no. Let's stay on that. It's absolutely, yeah. The Supreme Court has been for the past six years, just a force for business. Like what we're about to talk about, actually, like the fact this new world order that's not that new, but it is now completely unbridled and just running free of, you know, billionaires are now the designers of of our world and like that's what that's where we're getting stuff like yeah what if like corporations owned by billionaires owned all the houses instead of people and you know all all the shit we're talking about and they're doing it behind closed doors and it's it's not benefiting anyone except for extremely wealthy people.

I can't even get away with a late fee at the library. You know what I mean? Right. And I said, what better time to plug my appearance on Behind the Bastards with Robert Evans, where part one of the Clarence Thomas story featuring Bruce Cooley just dropped. If you want to fucking scream inside your body, listen to this. This is a four-part fucking dive into somebody so and the first three are just like his life and you're like oh no he's like a fucking

weird thanos like person who's just dealing with a lot of shit thanos actually was probably a little bit better more more convincing, had something to believe in. But, well, yeah. All right. Let's move on to a story. The hook is Coachella. The thing hanging on that hook is the entirety of our crumbling system. Yeah.

Yeah. So the Coachella owners, which AEG is the company that most people are probably familiar with, but they are owned by the Anschutz Corporation, which is not, as you pointed out, Miles, the made up Nazi company from The Man in the High Tower. It does. The Anschutz Corporation. I'm like, ooh. Yeah.

Yeah. They own everything. You heard of AEG? That actually stands for the Anschutz Entertainment Group, if you weren't aware. Or AXS.com, where you buy tickets. They're behind Coachella. They're behind Stagecoach. They own a ton of sports venues. They have their hands on fucking everything in in the terms of like live entertainment and we talked recently just to just some context about how coachella is like this marketing event that was created by people who were like yeah man people like really liked the like woodstock and like those idealistic things what if we took that but made it completely just marketing and devoid of any value other than like cultural signifiers what yeah what then right so coachella like all the way down is you know it feels very it starts to feel more gross when we get through this story

where you figure out it's like wait is it a collection yeah it's like a donation gathering event to put more right-wing wackos in office yeah not to say that the line is that clear but when you start digging in uh popular information if you follow that newsletter, the work of Judd Legum reported along with the Rolling along with the Rolling Stones, the Rolling Stones, journalistic. They're doing their thing. They reported that, you know, the company, the parent company, the Anschutz Corporation, made a pretty sizable donation to R.A.G.A., which is Republican Attorneys General Association. Just days after the Roe decision, the Dobbs decision that overturned Roe came down, the R.A.G.A., like the day Roe was overturned, they blasted out to their supporters that, hey, man, we could really use some cash, man, because we're going to need to put in more attorneys general that are going to fucking lay this fucked up human rights violating hammer down. Are you in? Can

we count on you? And clearly the Anschutz Corporation was like, yes, you can. Just give us a few days to get that money together and we'll get it right to you. And this isn't the first time this company or their owner has given to right wing causes either. Like in March, his company donated a combined like $750,000 to the GOP leadership funds that are like focused on getting majorities in the House and Senate. They're, you know, like they're called like the leadership funds or whatever.

And he also seems to have a knack for giving to anti LGBTQ groups as well, like the Alliance for Defending Freedom, the National Christian Foundation and the Family Research Council. When pressed about it, Anschutz defense was called it fake news that. But they're like, these are these are fucking tax. This is what you're talking about. And added, quote, I unequivocally support the rights of all people without regard to sexual orientation. End quote. Okay.

Um, and, and then at times he's like, look, I don't see sexual orientation. Like to me, everyone looks the same. One percent.

Never had sex. He's saying, so it's really not relevant to me. I don't really want to have an opinion on that. Right. You know, I give to a lot of people. And that's the thing.

I want to take a side note here because you're you're pointing out something that i wish more people acknowledged especially in this field the more innocuous the name of an organization is the more fuckery they tend to be up to right exactly like like the the family research council right alliance defending freedom it's like back when the CIA had Air America. And that sounds dope. That's fine. But now it's like a knee-jerk reaction for me, man. Every time I hear a really innocuous-sounding name for a political organization, I'm like,

the cleaner it sounds, the worse it is. Yeah, when those groups are getting together, all the founders are like, what if we called it the Gay People Shouldn't Exist Alliance? And then people are like, no, no, no. They're like, why? That's what we're here for. No, you got to say something like the Family Research Council. Do you have any idea how many Harvard and Yale graduates we have working to come up with a beautiful name that sounds perfect and hits people's brains exactly right. Yeah, we don't call it gay people shouldn't exist.

You dumb fuck. We have all the money in America to spend on coming up with the right name for this. So when he was pressed about it, they then found it like, OK, you know what? I'm going to stop funding any groups, it turns out, that are involved with any anti-lgbtq anything but then pitchfork like a year or two later looked into it again and he was just giving a smaller organization that have a history of anti-lgbtq like activity and so again you know this is just sort of when the parent company was asked about this whole you know their support for forced birth they were like oh took a very similar path of like one of these spokespeople for the company uh said that you know the company and the owner philip uh answers does you know he believes and he totally in the right to choose and did not support the reversal of roe and neither the

company or the individual himself received saw saw, or was aware of a Republican Attorneys General Association fundraising solicitation based on the reversal of Roe v. Wade. TAC has contributed to RAGA since at least 2014. No contribution to RAGA by the Anschutz Corporation or Mr. Anschutz has been based upon, informed by, or motivated by any RAGA position on Roe or abortion, Mr. Anschutz makes contributions to numerous

organizations, usually for specific reasons. He does not review or support each of the positions taken by such organizations. Okay, I gotta go. What the fuck? Just a straight up run-on word blast to be like, yikes! You caught us! 100%. How is that any different

from someone saying, okay, did I donate to the Nazi party? Yes, but it's because I like the uniforms. I did not do much other research. I think the armbands are cool. I like Hitler's stance on vegetarianism and not smoking. Okay,

so get off my back. Do you think everybody should smoke? Do you want to kill animals? Then, pfft. Wow. Who's the real monster? I'm just a single-issue donator. Hey, look, I met him in a Reddit,

subreddit group, where it was people who had beef against art schools that they didn't get into. That's what we bonded over first. I didn't know that's what he was up to. That's not fair. I only knew him from Reddit. That's the same energy that all these people

have but this is just again another example of how the billionaire class has a public facing company that's aligned with a festival like coachella yet in private the owners and even in public the the company itself are actually a bunch of sick fucks who are hell bent on ending democracy. And just I just wanted there's a there's an interesting report that came out in the last week from Common Dreams and a few other groups that just showed just how much billionaires contribute to the two parties. So the Congressional Leadership Fund and the Senate Leadership Fund, these are both funds that Anschutz directly donated to directly, raised a combined $188.3 million in the first 16 months of the 2022 campaign cycle. Nearly half, about 90 million, or 48%, came from just 27 billionaires. And Anschutz is one of these 27

billionaires. A whopping 86% of the GOP's billionaire money comes from, quote, Wall Street tycoons, which are the people who benefit most from our shitty tax laws and loopholes. So they have a vested interest to stay in the game of influencing politics. And then on the Democratic side, you look, they raised about $154 million in that period. About $25.8 million, or 17%, only came from 19 billionaires from for Democrats. So they're only beholden to 19 Democrats who aren't giving as much, but still outsized donations. And a majority of those billionaire contributions, again, comes from the investment sector. I mean, you know, the Clinton administration is the one who let Wall Street become a total fucking casino. So it's been a good it's been a nice relationship since then.

And made the shape of the government like Wall Street logic like we're not you know allocating funds for like projects to help the public we are investing in these things and then we use wall street logic and like investor call logic when we're like talking to the press about fucking like well we're means testing everything like everything has to be like framed as this like financial thing that's like paying back to rich americans essentially who needs a pension get a 401k that's the rule right right exactly i mean this story just i feel like we could just cover this story every day from now. Like this is the whole thing that like, that is so much money that is being put in by these billionaires and they're not doing it out of kindness or the,

because they don't like pay attention. What happens? Their money billionaires pay way more attention to what happens to their money than you and I do. Like they love their money. Billionaires pay way more attention to what happens to their money than you and I do. They love their money. They are absolutely, they're doing it because they expect something in return and will make sure they get it or they will destroy the person who doesn't give it to them. That is the mentality of a billionaire. That is how you become a billionaire is by liking your money and making it work for you at like, you know, two degrees that are just completely absent of any like morality or anything like that.

But so this is what like the the Supreme Court has made possible is that we have an entire system that is just designed by billionaires. When you look at the founding of Coachella, the two people who founded it were just people in punk bands who are the sort of people who maybe in a past generation start creating a community, build something cool there, cool people who rock stars like to hang out with. They're plugged into the artistry. And instead, you know,

they are fed into this system that is controlled by billionaires. And the result of that is that like Coachella, a cool idea becomes a funding mechanism for right wing, like politics and for ideals that just end up protecting rich people's money that is that is what the entire american project is at this point for for all intents and purposes and it's all happening behind closed doors like the public yeah well the right but it's not not behind closed doors it's just not the part that the media pays attention to and that is because the media is also like the amount of

money that they're investing they're creating so many jobs like the the people who like created coachella like that every like new york times fucking you know, they're making a good living. These people's money is putting people's children through college. And those people now take their marching orders from billionaires. And that is how you get to a system that we're in right now. That it's just, it's completely fucked. Yeah. right now that it's just it's completely fucked yeah i mean that upton sinclair quote couldn't be truer where it's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on

not understanding it absolutely and that's been true since fucking upton sinclair also whoa i feel like we we get angry at the new y Times. We get angry. And I feel like they're not making the mistakes because they want to be, necessarily. No. There are billions of dollars that are sending thousands of people's kids through college that are buying that bias. And like, yeah. And same with the people who founded Coachella and now like are, you know, work in these like swanky giant things and have like million dollar mansions and shit like that. And, you know, like that is this this country and then they're like what's going on with crime it can't be because no one has options or is supported because there's not enough ring cameras to hack or whatever fucking logic they're trying to get but like yeah but since like you know they can buy votes we've just been sliding the scale the other way and we're just like you're saying jack we don't live in a place that considers the needs of a working person

we live in a place that always centers what the desires of the billionaire class is and then you can dress it up as policy or these other things but the gist is always going to be if this shit takes a bite out of the billionaire class fucking bank account, you can pretty much bet that this shit will not pass because they have too much influence with the people who have the votes to make things a reality. And I just want to say those 27 billionaires that were bankrolling the GOP super PACs alone, their wealth increased by 82.4 billion during the fucking pandemic, meaning that the fucking barely 90 million that they gave is less than one 10th of one, 1% of their overall pandemic era gains. Right.

Can you imagine all the costs? That's like, that's an investment that the average person would salivate for. Oh, easily. You would do dirt for that. I would commit crime for that. But the other thing that I think is part and parcel of this, we're talking about the complicity of this system at a structural level, is that there's no real insider trading law for Congress. And it's an apolitical point. And people sometimes don't like to hear it, especially if they consider themselves very partisan, right? And they're

saying, oh, you know, but my side or this one is the good one for some reason. Like Pelosi, I believe, is cyclically in hot water that somehow mysteriously goes away when people learn about the profiteering that occurs on a routine, regular, I would say normalized and systemic basis there. I know for a lot of us listening today, this is maybe we're preaching the choir, maybe the statistics and specifics are new, and maybe it's really disheartening, but it's the truth. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's a conspiracy on the part of billionaires. It's measurable. You can tie the amount, their proximity to an industry to begin to understand why they vote a certain way or why certain legislative ideas are injected into bills and things like that.

It's pretty clear. But again, if the if the mechanism that people use to understand it is going to be pushed through like a funhouse mirror of corporate interests, the shit that they're going to see is not going to be that. It's going to be Joe Manchin and Christian Cinema. It's all them. It's like, no, it's all of you but you're lucky that these two were particularly lacking moral scruples that they're like visibly just going to be like the the centerpiece for it for it all but really these are just these are just like a zit on the gigantic ass of our fucked up political system where it's like i need to zoom out look

at the whole nasty butt because it's the rules sound like the you guys were talking about uh kids before in some previous episodes you know and i hope everybody's kid is well listening to this but uh if you have ever caught your very young child trying to cheat at a game it sounds like that's the kid who wrote a lot of these laws especially around super packs it's like don't know you don't it's not directly you know contributing right no i get to have the power you don't have you don't get to have the superpower like i have the yeah wait hold on what kind of controller are you using wait that's not fair you can put you can set the buttons to turbo that's why you fucking me up with chun lee that is an argument that miles got into with my six-year-old recently by the way miles is

always pushing to uh pull the focus out on the whole nasty butt i will say exactly stop zooming in on the zit man you're missing the zit but i mean this is oh my god this is the ass. Oh, my God. This is this directly ties to the national mood of like people just being like, what? Like what? Like the surreal phenomenon of having the president that we elected being in office and not being able to do anything he wants to do and the fact that this isn't given as the explanation is like well he can't do it because the billionaires don't want him to do it like that that should be 80 point font on the front page of the new york times like every time something fails but instead it's like yeah cinnamon mansion got in his way again. And, you know, that's instead of like, yeah, this should be all we're talking about.

But, you know, those same billionaires own or invested, they own the, you know, Washington Post or they own the corporations that advertise on the New York Times. And so you have to like, you you know listen to a podcast story about coachella to hear somebody talk about it like right i mean this is it's just a it is frustrating and when really every time if there was like i don't know some shred of journalistic integrity you could just say here's the bill that's being proposed here. Here's who stands to make less money as an industry because of these changes. Right. Because like even with something like build back better, we're talking about clean energy and we're talking about moving towards renewables. So that sounds like the money is going to be moving away from fossil fuels and towards

renewable energy. Now, when you say the money's moving away from fossil fuels, you're damn sure that the fossil fuel industry is going to be giving as much fucking money as they can and getting in the ears as many legislators as possible to make sure that money doesn't go towards renewables. Because most companies were probably more invested in trying to kneecap renewables than seeing the future and be like you know we should probably get in on this shit too right because that's kind of where it's at and now we're the ones paying for it because a group of wealthy fucking people are saying you know what in this instance i can't stand to make less money and guess what i can spend fucking less than one percent of what i made in the pandemic

and make this shit disappear neo-feudalism yeah that's why i'm shaking my fist in the air yeah right even though it's not a podcast and i think that's the hard part i think for just in general jack like you're talking about how like you've had an evolution from starting the show right where there's a part where we really do want to believe that the way that we've been raised or taught of how the political system works is actually centering the American, you know? And that's like the first lie that I think most people have to, like, I think, again, many people are still reeling with the fact like, is that not true? And then because if that's not true then it's like well then what do i have to do and i think that's scary too what does that mean i have to do then if no one's

looking out for me and i think being outraged and getting you know more aware of what's happening around you is is the key to that at least that's moving to our micro niche yeah we're gonna be a micro nation of my one my address they're gonna be i think we should open it in the dilapidated water park river country in uh disney world oh you know just they're already used to like having a micro nation down there yeah so. Old theme parks and malls, they have infrastructure like plumbing and shit like that, ventilation. I don't know. Any micronation I'm involved

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Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And so, Bang, you brought this you you sent this over and i did not know about the georgia guide stones i think i had maybe heard about them years ago maybe on your podcast but i think they've been called like the american stonehenge like which appropriately they are very white supremacist in origin so as any american monument should be i guess oh they're

oh they have a white supremacy origin story the guidestones yeah i think so yeah right like that we don't have definitive proof who built them but we right because i have the usa today idea of what these guidestones are of like stone slabs with instructions written about it, and it can be used as a calendar and a fucking clock. And I was like, okay, that seems innocuous enough. Yeah. Big stone slabs, and the instructions are like how to exist, how to govern the planet Earth after a nuclear holocaust.

Definitely, or some sort of global near-extinction level event. So the inscription is in a number of different languages, and they're like a new Ten Commandments, the more religiously minded would call them. I can't officially say the identity of the person has been revealed, but it's been pretty compelling evidence based on a documentary that arrived at the identity through unethical means. But if you look at the inscriptions, you get creeped out. First off, there's nothing else in Elberton, Georgia.

It is far away from Atlanta. It's far away from a lot of stuff. It touts itself as like the granite capital of the world because every town has to have something, right? And if you look at the inscription, it is at the very least pro-eugenicist. It says maintain humanity under 500 million in perpetual balance with nature. Number one, number two, guide reproduction wisely, improving fitness and diversity. Hey, they said diversity though. That's good. It'll throw them off theroving fitness and diversity. Hey, they said diversity, though. That's good.

It'll throw them off the scent. They said diversity. Yeah, but maybe by diversity, they were like some Catholics. Or like, yeah, right. A diversity of shades of white. Right. Exactly. We might have some Swedes, but never too many.

You know how they are. But the guy who commissioned this was going by a pseudonym rc christian which is like so dumb it's like when you see the christian soda yeah it's big soda that's that's who made the guide stones but um because of some kind of i would say they're insincere but they might actually be bonkers local politicians in the area. The Guidestones came under a lot of heat because they were seen as part of the Alex Jones style New World Order. And one politico in particular that you guys know of was 10 toes down on destroying the Georgia Guidestones was Marjorie Taylor Greene I believe she was like this is this was I kid you not this was one of her platforms running for office she was like first thing I'm gonna do is blow up those Guidestones because fuck the new world order and people people were like yes finally a reasonable voice in politics and uh's like one awkward guy who knows who built it.

It's like, what if they agreed with you on a lot of stuff? Exactly. You nailed it, Miles. That's the thing that's so nuts to me. It's because even a cursory amount of research will show that the current right-wing contingent that was against these things and regularly vandalizing them, that was against these things and regularly vandalizing them, eventually leading to the explosion and their being demolished, they would have 85% agreed with everything the builders of the Guidestones said.

So it's really scoring an own goal on their field. And I'm not above the schadenfreude you know i hate that there's i hate that i hate whenever you miss something like unique because as as we're talking about off air america or the united states excuse me sorry canada sorry mexico yeah yeah okay that one murica like shoots far above its weight class when it comes to spooky places, you know, like they're ancient places with like ancient civilizations that have so much more history than the United States today, which spent a lot of time erasing the history of the civilizations that existed before it became a thing built right on top of it,

just moved right in and started using their dishes that's a real thing that happened in plymouth they showed up the plague that the europeans had brought with them had wiped out the entire like a bustling city and they just moved into their houses and started using their plates and then they were like man it's really nice have you been to ohio like there ohio's got like streets and shit through the forest. You can just ride your horse through. It's amazing. They just set it up for us.

Yeah. The settlers just came through and were like, we're good here. And there's so much. That's what I mean. There is such a proliferation of strange places here in the United States. And a big part of that, as you guys have brought up earlier, was that is only one example. And it's a very recent example. It was built in 1980. So it didn't have that long of a track run, not near as much as some of the other things we're going to discuss. Like you guys are, you live much closer than I do to the infamous Winchester Mansion, right? I've never been. Yeah, Winchester Mystery House. I've never

been either, but this made, like, just thinking about this made me be like what am i doing with my life if i'm not visiting the winchester mystery house but that's like so that's where the heiress to the winchester rifles like you know a death merchant the heiress to like a death merchant lost her tether to reality and just kept building and rebuilding a mansion like full of like hidden passages and stairwells that like lead into a wall like don't lead anywhere i don't know it's just it's a great monument to what america actually is which is a bunch of demented, extremely wealthy people building just wherever the hell they want, whatever the hell they want. And it's not good. It's creepy.

I had heard that part of that was wrapped up in tourism. I'm not sure. I'm not an expert on this, but I'm wondering for you guys, how much of that you see as a true story of a person going mad and, and, you know, being surrounded by sycophants and no one being reasonable or how much of it kind of accreted over time and folklore. I mean, if I, if I were somehow an owner of a place like that, I'm just going to be honest with you because I'm not the best person. I would fucking lean into the haunted house. Oh and i'd be like thank you thank you for validating that guys i just i mean when like rich people do stuff i think it's easy for you to be like oh they done lost their mind or they're rich we don't live like them at all and they just live in a world where they're like you know i've always as someone who's not had to do much for anything i have i've really liked secret doors so i'm just gonna put a bunch of those around and that helps me give get a sense of satisfaction and achievement and you're

like oh my god who would do that you're like i don't know some fucking man child or some like wealthy rich people too much money and too much time on their no lie i'm gonna i i really want some kind of like secret door kind of thing yeah in a house like but i'd have to build it myself and it would take forever and i would have like the thing is with those you gotta make them look good you know what i mean the fake book that you pull has to look like a real book. I would, I would screw it up. I'm pretty sure.

Oh yeah. The only mystery thing that I could imagine doing is like a hole in the ground with a carpet over it. That is like people fall through if you, if you walk over it. Oh shit. So it's dangerous. So your,

your house is like a fucking Kevin McAllister. By necessity. Yeah. By necessity. Oh, by necessity. just because i'm not i'm not handy enough to like build a secret door like a light switch the flip and then like the bookcase spins around i was i was thinking like how are you living jack like what what has happened in your life where you thought by necessity it's time to really start thinking of trap doors because

these people are just coming at you well they're coming for me gold you know it's uh yeah i don't know america is an underrated like spooky place built on top of the apocalypse of a superior civilization so any anything that kind of further underlines that. And well, yeah, yeah. I think, you know,

when the sort of like MO of the country is to bury and not acknowledge though, your worst transgressions, it's like being in a house where someone has a, like a stench coming from another room and the owner's insisting, everything's chill. You're like, I'm like,

what is, is everything cool? Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. Just don't, I'm like, what? Is everything cool? Yeah, it's fine. Just don't worry about that door. The fucking sound's coming out of it. I'm talking to the realtor. I'm supposed to get a fucking refund on that anyway, but check out this. I got a vertical spit here so I can do my own al pastor.

That's pretty cool. And you're like, the vibe in here is kind of weird. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. They have five vertical spits next to each other. Just like they can't stop themselves from like acquiring vertical spits. Like it's just the, like so much of it

is just the product of a diseased mind and a diseased culture. I highly recommend Jerome, Arizona, which I didn't see on any of these lists, but it's, know outside sedona it's just a ghost town that was like a booming town around the 1920s and then the copper mine shut down and because i think they figured out that it was like poisoning people and so everybody like it turned it went from like hundreds or like tens of thousands to like hundreds of people like

200 people and most of them lived at like the sanitarium and like you can just still go it's still just like left like that and there is a tourist industry that's like ghost hotel and shit but it's pretty it's pretty cool there's a town in pennsylvania that's just fucking on fire centralia pennsylvania it's just been on fire everybody accepts it they're like oh yeah that's the oh, swing and a miss on our part. But yeah, that, that whole thing is on fire. I mean, I, I always burnt. Yeah. Wasn't it? They buried their garbage and lit it on fire and it's just been on fire for like, you know, decades now, 62 years, something like that. Uh, but the, the thing that I always found astonishing and I don't know, I suspect this

is true, but one of the weird things to me about the U S is everybody in any state, whatever your neck of the woods is, everybody has like a creepy place and it's, it's always a seriously creepy place. It's never like, oh yeah, we like the old, we like the old abandoned skate park or something like that. It's like,

no, this is where, this is where they were wearing the skins. And, you know, one of them was the sheriff and everybody's like, oh,

yeah, yeah, I'm fourth street. Yeah, no, I remember that. What do you mean drying rack? Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.

Boy, you are great at questions. That's why I love having you over. What's your shawarma? From the spit over here. Actually, funny thing you asked, because the Mexicans learned how to do Alpa store from the Lebanese immigrants who brought the concept of shawarma to Mexico.

Anyway, so that's my new vertical grill over there too yeah six one i bought this week actually yeah what the i mean it's so funny that we have like chernobyl is like such a like known term and like everybody knows that story and there's a great hbo show about that but like amer America meanwhile has a town an entire town that was evacuated because they lit it on fire underground and there's just and like it's burning like it's a hell built out of like the garbage that they were producing like it's how I'm assuming in Russia they know the name of that town and like they have movies about that or they would. Yeah, I think, you know, it's always it's fascinating to read travel guides from other countries that are for people traveling to the United States. It's a real cold shower. It's a real eye opener.

Yeah. Don't talk about politics. The people will be less informed than you. Right. I saw that like a German book one time. And they said also. Don't even bother. Yeah. Guns are normal. Yeah. Try not to hang out around them.

Yeah. But try to remain calm as your reaction may seem suspicious. Yeah. Like stuff like that. The first sentence in all guidebooks for people coming from abroad here. It's like, so you believe what you see on TV, huh? Well, here's some pointers to get you actually acclimated for what you might see in the U.S. America, one giant murder house.

Which is wild, too. So many people are constantly baffled by the inequality in the U.S., too. Like, oh, yeah, from abroad. And you're like, no, man, like I say all the time. It's in the U.S. too. Like, oh, yeah, from abroad. And you're like, no, man, like I say all the time. It's like the U.S. just has great PR. Yeah. Like vis-a-vis the propaganda machine. That's all it is.

That's all. And I get that. Why do you like? Oh, my gosh. They were like unhoused people in Los Angeles. Like, I thought it was Beverly Hills. It's like, no, it's like most places in the U.S. There's just only two groups of

people people that are making it and people that are barely surviving the zeitgang i want to let let us know to ben's point like everybody has their spooky spooky ass local like home or human slaughter or whatever it is just hit us up what's the spookiest thing from where you grew up and not like be like national news too like if it's too big like fine but yeah yeah hit me with those deep cuts because i'm trying to think of what ours i just don't give a shit about that stuff it's funny like when i think about where kids go i remember be like yo you want to go to the old nazi headquarters they built in like oh yeah i've been there yeah it's the palisade there was a nazi summer camp up in the palisades and then it's like out deep in the santa monica mountains and you can like walk there my wife and i walked

there while she was nine months pregnant with our first and she like when we were there which is like a 45 minute walk into the woods her she thought her water broke i was like damn oh man i really got egg on my face making you come out here for uh but we go see a dilapidated what would have been the nazi headquarters in california or whatever because the owners were like the third reich's coming y'all. Yeah, exactly. Looks like shit, by the way. Looks like shit. Not worth the hike, I would say. Barely any Nazi stuff. Wow, way overrated. I'm going on Yelp.

It'll leave shitty reviews for the dilapidated Nazi camp. Real yawn fest. It'd be like, there are actually no Nazis here. These are barely buildings you have to walk for almost an hour three out of five stars yeah i might sue the owners actually for false advertising yeah ben truly a pleasure having you where can people find you follow you all that good stuff yeah you can find me at ben bolin on Instagram, in a burst of creativity, at Ben Bolin, B-O-W-L-I-N. You can find me on Twitter, at Ben Bolin, H-S-W,

where you can get a firsthand look at my various misadventures, research of doing, where I'm going, where I'm coming from, and hashtag Raymond Carver, I guess. But more importantly, you can also check out shows I do, a number of them, stuff they don't want you to know. Got a book coming October 11th. I'm required to say that, I think. And then you can also find Ridiculous History. One of the coolest things about Ridiculous History, which is just what it sounds like, is that in addition to hearing our episode on Nazi summer camps, you can hear a recurring series

called weirdest flexes in history history's weirdest flexes which happens whenever i can persuade jack and miles to come hang out uh and hopefully that'll that time it's about a couple compliments short of us guesting actually uh actually I hope this doesn't make it a friend breakup here, but had Anna on recently. How dare you? We were like, hey, sorry, love you, but weirdest flexes is kind of a thing that we do. But we talk about

a history of reality television, which is way darker. Way, way darker than I thought. Very racist. Tales of St. Olga. Yeah! Yes. So I'm volunteering you guys for that. So check us out there.

That's it. Yeah, that's it. Keep the awkward are those. Yeah, that's it. No, keep the awkward part in. Keep the awkward part in, Justin. Leave it all, baby. And Ben, is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? I am a big fan. Ooh, callback.

Okay, so I am a big fan of a sketch comedy group out your way in Los Angeles called Chris and Jack. And for several years now, one of the guys, Chris, they've made this recurring thing about trying to make a national holiday. It is called July 6th Park. It is a terrible pun on Jurassic Park because the guy, Chris, loved Jurassic Park. I shit you not. They are super into this, and it comes up every year. And if they're listening, I tune in in early July and then stay through July for the aftermath.

So check them out next year. They actually flew to Hawaii to where parts of Jurassic Park were filmed. And the funny thing about it is one guy is super into it. And the other guy is just sort of putting up with his best friend. You know, I think we've all had those interactions before. Right. So July 6th part, it just it makes my day. Miles, where can people find you?

What's the tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Check out Miles and Jack got mad boosties. If you like 90 Day Fiance, well, guess what? So the fuck do I? And you should check out 420 Day Fiance, where I get pretty weird on there with my co-host, Sophie Alexandra.

And also, Zeitgang, please do us a solid. I see some ratings trickling in. But rate and review the daily zeitgeist on your apps really which is apple uh these days please uh give us a shout help people spread the word of zeitgang that you can come here and talk about old dilapidated nazi structures and the like and by old dilapidated nazi structures i mean this country so i just want to i want to find out yelp.com i found a review the worst review i could find for the nazi compound i mean this country so i just want to i want to find out yelp.com i found a review the worst review i could find for the nazi compound hike was a three star uh most people

are pretty they're like hey it's pretty freaking freaky but uh one person was like the the worst was a three star someone said look it's this nazi compound gives you some you know uh stats on it from how it was built in the 1930s. It says, once you get down there, the abandoned buildings are open to look inside. Colorful graffiti lined the buildings and makes for great photos. Three stars because a lot of the time you find stoners and people just getting drunk and ruining it for everyone. What? It's like when you guys were talking about the smell of cannabis.

Yeah. Right. The only thing is it reeks of weed instead of old Nazi shit. Like what? Smells like weed. And a lot of people wearing Jordans on the hike. Not great hiking shoes. You're like, what the fuck are you doing here?

Anyway, it's not much of a dog whistle. Then a scream into the racist abyss. Let me see some tweets that i also like this one is from katie delaney at katie delaney tweeted i had a dream i was dating a man who lived in a sewer but to his credit he made it really cool and vibey down there just like her idea of like in the dream being like oh you live in a sewer and And then like, you know what? Okay. It's kind of okay.

You know what? It's cute. You made it cute down here. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. By the way, that Nazi hike recommended to me by Robert Evans. Hey, Bobby. Oh, also. Yeah.

And also check me out on behind the bastards if that wasn't clear enough. Yeah. Go do it. Let's see. A tweet I've been enjoying. Oh, Bonnie Tangi wrote Will you marry me on the beach? And she said wrote, Will you marry me in the sand? Hope

it fucks up a couple's holiday. That's just strong fuckery energy. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes,

where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? You got a song in your heart got a song in my heart and that's called songs you might enjoy this one is okay this is a cool track it's called uh the artist is called stella with a sigma i think but it spells stella but the the first letter is a sigma and i feel like in hashtags i've seen it known as stella with a sigma uh and this is an album with a producer named Redinho.

And it's like kind of like this combination of like Greek folk disco. It's it's it's really interesting. It's kind of a multi genre album. And this track is called Up and Away. So if you like kind of classical sounding, like sort of like retro-y music, but also informed with a little bit of more modern production style and sensibilities, then check out Stella with a Sigma with Up and Away. All right.

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