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Episode Date: March 9, 2021

In episode 827, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and creator Kareem Rahma to discuss the Harry and Meghan interview with Oprah, the CDC's new guidelines for those who have been vaccinated, the cancellation of Pepe Le Pew, the documentary Can’t Get You Out of My Head, and more!FOOTNOTES: Harry and Meghan interview fallout CDC Comes Around To Issuing Guidance For What The Vaccinated Can Do Will these ranch dressing vending machines leave Angelenos drunk with power? NY Times Columnist Defends Saying Pepe Le Pew ‘Normalized Rape Culture’ After Right-Wing Backlash The Looney Tunes Feature Films That Never Were Pepe Le Pew removed from 'Space Jam' sequel Adam Curtis knows why we all keep falling for conspiracy theories WATCH: Lapalux - LPLX - NO HRT Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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episode 2 of der daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it is tuesday march 9th 2021 my name is jack o'brien aka i'm jack o'brien put some dew in my head i'm jack o'brien the sun makes my thighs red uh that is courtesy of grand video uh based off that classic mr bucket commercial. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Graham! Oh, get ready, cuz. I got these anaconda shit pics sent daily to me. A brown snake swimming in some pee.

It broke the bowl. Next thing you know, Dirty on the flow, flow, flow, flow on the flow flow flow flow flow flow flow and shout out to official dickhead for that just you know we were talking shit pics the art of the shit pic and you know you came through with that flow

right AK so I had to do it justice wow I've had a lot of people message me about surprisingly or comment about the taking the pictures of your shit conversation we had. I think that's universal. I think a lot of people can relate for some reason, unfortunately. There's a truth there.

I think that's probably a weird part of our consumerist capitalism culture where we are like, look at how much I consumed. Right. And here's the embodiment of my experience. Actually, wow. Okay, let's think about that conceptual art piece that we should workshop later on. All right. And in our third seat, we are thrilled to be joined by the brilliant, the talented, the hilarious Kareem Rahman!

I'm thrilled. That was dope. I appreciate you saying my name very correctly. Of course, man. Big boxing fans. Yeah, the Rahman part, though. Usually no one does the harsh. It's usually Rahman.

That's credit to super producer Anna Hosni who has us respecting all names. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? What's up? Where are you at right now? Are you in are you

West Coast? East Coast? Where are you at? I'm East Coast. I'm in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. South Williamsburg specifically. Okay. Is that your normal?

Is that where you live? Is that where you grew up? No, that's where the apartment is. That's where I've lived in New York for 10 years. Okay. And I've lived in this neighborhood for four but before that i was in i was in minnesota where uh some shit's going down today that's where i grew up um and hopefully you know the deal i hope i hope

derek chauvin goes to jail for a very long time yeah it's a lot of just even like hearing about how many uh like uh opportunities for the defense to strike like jurors like and hearing a lot of like legal analysts be like you know i to be honest there's a world in which that jury is all white based on the number of strikes they have the questionnaires that they're giving to people to try and have them ousted for cause or whatever because they believe in something like that black lives matter it's a very like the more you read about the, the details going into it, it's like,

I'm already feeling the wind coming out of my optimistic sales for justice, but I'm trying to not because that would already be too crushing this early in the week. But yeah, we shall see. So they're treating, uh, like having sympathy for the cause of black Lives Matter as like a preexisting.

They are biased. Yeah. And therefore, and then there are things on the questionnaire like, have you been to did you go to any demonstrations over the summer? Did you carry a placard or sign? If you did, what did it say? you did what did it say like it's really trying to get in there very deep to understand who you know might may or may not be sympathetic to the idea or acknowledging the idea that there is a you know full-on problem with people of color having their lives ended by the police and somehow that's a disc it's like so weird it's like we're looking for someone who doesn't have

an opinion on that to then adjudicate what has happened here like are they allowed to at a murder trial be like are you pro or anti-murder because if you're anti-murder we're gonna strike you like i mean i'm i'm i guess maybe on some i don't know if you'd ask something that directly but it's just like so fucking like right uh that's that should just be a basic human judgment yeah Yeah. Murder is wrong. Yeah. This guy's saying murder is wrong on the public record. I'd like to strike this juror, actually.

He just said murder is wrong. Yeah, that opinion's too woke these days. That murder is wrong. Cancel culture is getting rid of murderers, And I've just had about just because we haven't accepted the piece where acknowledging that there's that systemic white supremacy is just off is the evil fucking overlord of this country. Like that acknowledging that is somehow makes you biased now. Yeah. Where I would actually say to the contrary, I would to the contrary. Yeah. I would, to the contrary, it would be like, if you aren't aware at this point

what this country does to people and how it operates, actually you have no place adjudicating what justice is or is not because you actually have demonstrated you have no sense of justice. Yeah. A jury of your peers has like some

implication that they are a friend to people in general and not just a complete sociopath, disconnected sociopath. What's New York like these days, Kareem? So I've been gone for 45 days. Before I left, though, it was nice. People were getting into a new kind of camaraderie, right? Actually, last night I went out for some drinks, um i was sitting outside in 30 degree weather and i was like damn this wouldn't i mean this is unfathomable for you know a year ago or two years ago that i would be

out sitting outside uh european style having a beer you know and i was like it rose into your hand yeah but now it was like normal i mean every everybody was doing it and so coming back to that i'm like damn like new yorkers really do have a completely different attitude uh about life in general i think than any other country or country i mean more or less yeah um but but people are i mean you can feel the excitement uh as spring is upon us spring has almost sprung very nice right that's so funny i don't think of that like subconscious psychological effect of being like it become warmer now soon and like the excitement because me growing up la my whole life is just like, I don't know, is it hoodie or shorts today? And you only wear one at a time.

I've noticed you will wear a hoodie or shorts. But when you're wearing your hoodie, it is like Donald Duck. You will not be wearing anything below the waist. And then when I, you know, I'll put chroma key green paint all over my bare chest. So when I do the Zoom call, I can just Photoshop anything. That's right. Green screen it right on. Yeah, that's what you're saying yeah man i'm i'm starting to in the back of my mind uh plan a return to new york like in my 50s or something because that this i like to live there you mean yeah to live there this bill that you put in our doc last week that we talked about miles

about like turning you know 25 of the streets into like park area just seems like it would be so dope they got to get that done first yeah yeah yeah i know i know i'm just saying like eventuality i would yeah i was surprised that when i came back there's a street called barry that goes down williamsburg and it's still closed it's been closed for a year and i'm like they're gonna have a really hard time prying this this pedestrian space from the hands of the people like yeah there's no cars on it just skateboarders walkers people taking jogs like it's it's nice give the people the streets back and i think they're gonna have a really hard time uh trying to open that street back up you know let's hope they they

keep those streets closed and yeah expand on that for sure because i think just in general the benefits of like being more connected to your community uh i think they can't be like underlined enough yeah all right kareem we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We are still talking about that Oprah interview from Sunday with Megan and Harry. Shocked. Shocking. We are recording this soon after that.

So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about the new world for people who have been vaccinated. What that looks like uh we're going to talk about the box office boffo bo for the uh weekend in in new york they opened like 25 capacity uh in new york and there was like a noticeable uptick people are apparently going to be willing to go back to movie theaters uh so we'll talk about that we'll talk about uh jack in the box uh ruining la with uh ranch yeah national ranch it sounds ridiculous it's it sounds about as ridiculous as like free ranch gone wild yes free ranch gone wild uh my favorite favorite video series yes we'll talk

about pepe lepew being quote-unquote canceled uh i want to talk about just all the cancel culture shit in the context of this new documentary from the hyper normalization director uh adam something guy uh we'll talk about uh welcome to daily zeitgeist and we'll talk about philly's vaccine rollout uh if we get to it uh but first kareem we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are oh oh yeah yeah yeah um there's there's a couple things i did look at my search history and i had the um i was researching the extended warranty meme we'd like to call you about your extended warranty what's the extended warranty meme it's because everyone keeps getting these phone calls like actual robo calls that are like we'd like to talk to you about your car's extended warranty. And it's like, bro, I don't own a car.

Oh, that's right. Okay. And now it's like a meme where it's like you do the wink meme. What's her name? She was just in the thing. Oh, yeah. Oh, Katherine Hahn. Katherine Hahn.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, oh, that would be a great one. I was like, that would be great to meme-ify. I would collide these two memes. That's what I was thinking. I was like, I would take the winking meme and the extended warranty meme and I would combine them because it's like the person that's calling me about my car's extended warranty, A,

is literally not calling about my car's extended warranty and I don't have a car. So that was one thing. I also was Googling Minari, which is a movie that I thought was I watched it last night and I cried the entire time by myself eating Chipotle, drinking wine.

Before or after your street beer? This is after the street beer. So it was like after the street beer, it was like seven o'clock, came home, felt lonely, decided to put on the saddest movie I've ever seen in a long time, but also inspirational. Drink wine by myself and eat Chipotle tacos. I had a pivot. Like I had a pivot like i had like a wow i'm not gonna get the burrito i'm gonna get the hard shells because i actually i wanted taco bell then initially i wanted taco bell yeah but then i thought about my stomach and how that would feel right so i got taco i mean that's that's rare that you desire taco bell and then your next thought was actually considering

your own safety and well-being. Because the second my mind goes into Taco Bell, it's an unstoppable force. And so my bell is also. I believe you were adulting when you did that. Is that a cool thing to say? Yeah. Cancel adult. Cancel adult.

Yeah. It's like, nah, dude, I'm a Gryffindor adult. Yeah. coming out of their back words yeah it's like nah dude i'm a gryffindor adult yeah something about uh the combined uh like i i once found myself like hungry and weeping openly and like stuffing food in my face and just like i i had a visual of myself and i was like this is kind of the funniest thing a human can do is be like weeping while while shoveling food in their mouth um do you remember what you were eating i think it was a meatball sub actually oh my god dude a wheat ball sub i don't know about that a wheat ball sub so minari uh five stars has its intended effect i actually haven't seen it but yeah and usually my

biggest criticism of every movie is that it's 30 minutes too long i believe that all films should be 90 minutes especially in the comedy genre this was uh this was 30 minutes over but i i honestly let it slide this one time you know what this movie is perfect it doesn't pass yeah it got the pass when i got the pass it was so it was so good it blew my expectations away i thought it was gonna be good but you know here's the thing about a24 which i like a24 as a company they are really fucking good at making trailers yeah and sometimes the trailers are better than the movies so when when an a24 film delivers on the trailer it's exceptionally good because the every a24 trailer

is good but sometimes the movie's not that good like like personal opinion here midsommar midsummer midsommar don't know what you want to call it not a good movie not a good horror film not a good film in general trailer fire like i'll put the trailer on repeat i was i just saw that clip of how the eight-year-old uh actor and it got like a critic's choice award and he was like crying and i was like oh man you know you know like whenever there's like a movie that has like like everyone's like unequivocal they're like the kids in this you're like okay this is that's usually like uh of some really good directing and filmmaking yeah it was incredible and sometimes kids are just such good fucking actors it's wild um well it's because it's weird

because they'll occupy this space where like they're not fully corrupted by like adult life and like considerations of like self-editing in your head and how you're being perceived by people outside of your own body and like so you're able to so i guess it's like that that moment where you're still able to emote with like this real depth of like the ego and super ego isn't but without that they're to fuck with it and it's just like uncut performance like just base you know what i mean yeah his his depth i mean he was like daniel day lewis like eight year old daniel lewis i was like this kid is so good and the character is like his character is like really complex like when we were growing up,

I'm assuming that we're all around the same age. Like, you know, child actor was like the kid from the Sixth Sense. And you're like, that kid's a really good actor, you know? But it's like, okay, you're scared. And you see deaf people. Which is different than like,

your dad's an immigrant. He just moved here from Korea. You're trying to build a farm. You're like, this is your story. I was just like, mind you. You know is your this is your story i was just like mind you know yeah yeah right right right i was like this kid like what's gonna happen next like is he gonna become like rami malik like right a great actor i wonder um i do wonder if and maybe zygan can let us know if there is like an artist or like a handful of artists who cuts the a24 trailers like there's i was i was

like blown away when i grew up and found out that like all my favorite movie posters from the 80s were like drawn by the same dude and oh right yeah there's like a bunch of special effects artists who are like that who are like these auteurs behind the scene that you like don't realize are there i wonder if a24 has got that going on with their trailers i mean yeah we'll have to ask them we'll do some post lurking out here in la start asking i would love that i would personally love to know that i would like to meet that person yeah an ice cold beer and negative 20 degrees uh what is something you think is overrated cream um i have uh a number of things that i when i was

thinking about what i think is overrated um the first thing that came to mind was radiohead just in general so it's not in the currently not in the zeitgeist but like radiohead is fine i think radiohead is fine you know um that's it what's the what's the line where you start going okay hold on hold on radiohead fuck what are you doing now because i love radiohead but i'm curious to know where you put it as uh like what's the level of uh fanaticism or uh you know uh energy behind it that you're like okay hold on now hold on i just think when people are like my favorite band is radiohead i was just like okay like you might as well just say coldplay at that point like that's to me radiohead is they're interchangeable bands and and they're not interchangeable well hold on just as a musician i mean no it doesn't digress i'm more like as

yeah and you're you're bringing out the fucking john Johnny Greenwood stand in me now. But I'm curious just how, because I want to, I'm able to say Radiohead might be washed or whatever. It's not the best. But comparing it to Coldplay, I'm curious, sonically, you mean? Or what do you mean? Or just like the people who vibe with Coldplay versus Radiohead? No, it has nothing to do with audience. I'm not judging Radiohead based on who likes Radiohead. Sure, sure, sure.

And you know what? Like Phantom Thread, Johnny Greenwood, amazing soundtrack. Loved it. Would listen to it a lot. Sure. Radiohead in general, like sometimes I'm like, okay, because I'm not resistant to understanding this phenomena of Radiohead. Sometimes I put it on.

I'm just like, it's good. It's actually good. But it's not. not yeah you're not levitating in your seat just like i want to be though i'm open to it i'm open to levitating who do you levitate to what do you levitate to well these days i'm just kind of like part of the i'm just like a tiktok gen z kid so i'm just i just listen to like literally things that sound like like the inside of a computer um yeah like you know um okay but um i i don't have anything to back this i had another thing that i think is over here which i think cooking at home but then i also realized that like friendly buits recently

had the same um kind of commentary so i didn't want to bring that on the show yeah but i do think that cooking is home people are like i love cooking it's so satisfying i'm like i love sitting on the couch and ordering food yeah that is the satisfying part i've had i've only had to i think as like like the variety of uh like restaurants i used to be able to get has changed i'm like fuck it it's just easier to make one trip buy a ton of food and then just like eat very normally but the there's nothing though like the feeling of eating food that you did not cook it just as much as i'm like you know i'm like oh my god i crushed it on this dish there's like something you still know it's like you made it though you can tell or something that i still like it's still like i just can't get that high like i'm chasing the dragon of like other people's cooking nothing's gonna surprise you not one of these bites is gonna surprise you yeah i think i

have i don't have that like little that little gene when i when i finish the food like finish making it i'm like i'm so proud of myself i'm just just always like. I'm the same way. I'm the same way. Oh, really? Yeah. Make room for us. Okay. It's not, it's not, you know, we exist. People who don't get any satisfaction out of cooking. Is it that like, is it because it's like the thing where you like, you were building a Lego set, like freestyling and in your mind, you're going to put together something wild. And then it kind of came out like, man.

So you're like less enthused or just in general it's not satisfying so at the end of it you're like man i did all this shit just for this and i don't know what it is because like puzzles i i like puzzles i get a kick out of that shit but but the puzzle of how to make a good meal right uh bores me and and i i will say that with breakfast it's different like i i pride myself in being an incredible scrambled eggs and like you and me man we're let's make breakfast together i think that is i think that is the one universal truth for people like even if you don't like to cook breakfast is one thing where people are oh yeah like i'll do that yeah like anything beyond just just submerging my eggs in butter or whatever and bacon grease and then eating a potato or something is different but yeah the breakfast is yeah

beloved maybe it's because the stakes are low right with breakfast um right because you don't expect to like you don't have to dress a plate for your breakfast it's like usually i'll eat out the pan and shit so it's for nobody and it's fun it's fun like what else can you look at i'm making pancakes like also like pancakes is just sugar and dough it's like a donut it's a deconstructed donut like it's fun i always get i always make too much batter and then i'm like fuck brian eat more than three of these and then i don't like having a stack of cold pancakes like that's my option i gotta try freezing you should freeze the batter and put some popsicle sticks in it and just like have pancake popsicles just thistle

into syrup you know that's like or like french cake or french toast sticks right right yeah um i take pride in uh even giving a good mix of cereal my kids like the uh graveyard you know like the every single fountain drink of cereal they want every single box of cereal my kids like the uh graveyard you know like the every single fountain drink of cereal they want every single box of cereal and i even yeah easy wait do they mix them yeah they mix them i mix them for them i give them like a little trail mix of uh a pre-blended uh no no every morning you know to bring out all the boxes because the boxes are part of the fun, right? They get to see all the boxes. They get to see the pictures on the boxes. Oh, mad scientist in the building.

That is fun. Yeah, that's a blast. See, breakfast is fun. Can't do that at dinner. Yeah. No, yeah, because you'd be wrong. It makes all the soups together. Yeah, right.

Exactly. Oh, how about sriracha on your cream cheese with some black olives? That's called a graveyard now? Graveyard, suicide, swamp water, we've heard of all. Yeah, yeah. I've heard it all. It all depended on the region of your summer camp. It's all region, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Like where I first heard it, because I heard it in the East Coast when they said suicide, and then people from Texas said swamp water. West Virginia, I think it was graveyard. suicide and then like people from Texas said swamp water. Yeah. You know, I guess it's all West Virginia. I think it was graveyard.

And yeah, I've heard it all. I've heard it all. I've heard it all. I'm like, it's like the monologue at the end of Blade Runner. I've heard all the different soda combinations, slang terms. What is something you think is underrated? Oh, just me that's what my answer for that me kareem rahma is let him know hell yeah like i thought about it for a while i was like you know what i'm underrated like i have like let

us know honestly i i sometimes tweet and i'm like, all right, this tweet's fire. Three likes. Boom. Seven likes. 14 likes. Where's the retweets? No one's retweeting my shit. So I was like, I'm a little upset about it. And I have good tweets, I feel.

So I'm just going to die on that hill. I'm underrated. You are a comedian and a poet, or a former poet. I don't know how you identify, but your background is poetry, right? Yeah, poet turned comedian. I started, I was like reading poems and I would see the look of sadness on everyone's face, which is kind of the point, you know? The point of poetry. But then I would feel bad and I'd be like, well, here's one that I was really depressing. And then people would start laughing and I was like, oh shit.

This is better. I like this feeling of the people laughing and then I would like, it would be less about the poems and more about the banter in between the poems because I would just like, whatever I had in my head I would just say it out loud and everyone would be laughing. And I was like, I like the applause. I like the claps. I like the laughs. And so that brought me into the

world of being a comedian. Rather than like the snaps and sniffles. Yeah, no snaps, no sniffles, no sniffles no turtlenecks when i took my turtleneck off and replaced it with this like open shirt boom exactly uh oh okay that's something that's underrated is is open like just leaving the buttons down like showing chest i feel like is is really underrated yeah like have you ever freed yourself flows it ebbs and flows oh i'm always like two button minimum because i remember like you know a few years ago the style was buttoned up baby you know what i mean that's called that's a british button i said church church church and court basically combined that okay as i make up more

words but yeah like you got the church button on. And now I'm kind of like, the vibes feel like, yeah, I'm feeling open collars and shit again. It's nice. It's freeing. It's liberating. And it's like, somebody was like, I did it at the dentist once, and I took a selfie. But I wasn't even talking about how, I just always wear it like that. And somebody was like, you're the only person I know that would go to the dentist like shirt three buttons down i was like yo this is like

a lifestyle this is a way of life this is not a choice i'm making like this is who i am right and also you say that as if like pulling up to the dentist with three buttons done is some kind of like anti-dent type move where you're like yeah oh what's up offensive check this shit out three buttons on your ass like right okay fine like you i can't yeah you would be someone who dressed comfortably to an appointment right yeah i mean that's how you get compliments you know dentists like i love this hairy chest i was like you're like okay easy bro i just need this i need this feeling real quick i care so much about what p like strangers like dentists think about me it's a total uh malfunction but i i will dress up or you know care if the dentist says i'm wearing a

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And we're back. And let's get into the Megan Harry Oprah interview. This is and let's get into uh the megan harry oprah interview this is i think there were there were definitely like the overall shape of it was kind of the direction i was expecting that uh the crown was uh racist but there were just some details that i was not like i just didn't know that kind of put it in a new shape for me like the complaints overall that they aren't protected from tabloid rumors and don't have security protection like when without context that seems lower stakes and like sort of a

privileged thing and then like within the context of the interview you're like oh that shit is violence like they are actually like fucking with them intentionally it's yeah i it's like throughout it i was like straddling this weird place of being surprised and totally not surprised at the same time because like on its face i'm like right the monarchy is a 1200 year old fucked up institution that is you know one of the ogs of this colonizer white supremacy shit so and i'm like right that's the fucking dna from where everything is then coming from so i'm like of course this is how they're going to treat someone a person of color who's going to enter the royal family and the how aggressive and open like you know i was just reading about how like one of

the the royals princess michael or one of them early on pulled up with a brooch of like a servant like a sort of depiction of a person of color servant from like the empire but it with a brooch of like a servant like a sort of depiction of a person of color servant from like the empire but it was a brooch to the first time you're meeting her and i'm like oh right but and then in this other way as an american i'm like this is nothing new i'm like anybody in an interracial relationship and it's so weird that i'm like sorting like i'm reconciling my perception of an american and being so familiar with just aggressive racism and this crown version where i'm also i was telling her majesty i'm like do you think the queen said that i can't picture

olivia coleman saying that from the crown and then i'm like this is not the fucking this is all bullshit but yeah it's i mean like again even like every time anyone if i've dated a white woman and met the family and it's been a serious thing you always hear some shit like oh i would love to have a curly haired grandchild you're like but it said with a smile because it's not like i don't want you dating this fucking brown skin motherfucker like it's no it's like oh my god and the kids would look so exotic you know it comes out in this really insidious way that's so familiar and with a smiling face and then you map that on to like what's going on with them you're like yes that's yeah even you get it even you get the royal racist treatment basically over there yeah so i mean the

things that i found surprising like i i hadn't realized that how much of a partnership the Royal family and the tabloids are and like how much control they have over the tabloids. Like they, one of the details that kind of blew my mind was that the tabloids have holiday parties in Buckingham palace. Like that's like, it's like they're all part of the same organization basically. And, and so in that

respect when they're like going after megan and not getting any corrections to like all these wild ass stories uh it it becomes clear oh they're kind of letting that happen um and then the big kind of bombshell thing was that one of the family members approached Harry when Megan first announced her pregnancy and speculated about how dark the baby's skin was going to be. that the baby would not be granted like prince or princess title and uh would not have security uh which is basically unprecedented um it's basically oh yeah you're fully on your own in fact maybe something will happen to y'all because you have no i don't know i mean i'm not gonna say that much but it's like the the way that keeps being underlined of like we wouldn't have protection we're just out there still very much being known as part of the royal family although maybe just in name only at this point but yeah it's it's it's bad and it goes back you know like when princess diana had an egyptian boyfriend right uh that was it was it

was bad it was bad back then and it's getting worse now and and all i could think about was like yo megan markle's like a beautiful person um you know and and the fact that they're concerned like about the color of the baby or the baby being a different shade it's just it's almost like what if she was like like, what if she was really dark-skinned? We're having this conversation about someone who's really light-skinned. Dark-skinned women are beautiful. They're all beautiful, but it's like

the idea that even a little bit of melanin is going to fuck up their whole thing. I'm like, have you seen the queen? She looks like she's from the movie Gremlins. Let's relax with that all right i mean they're and her and philip are related but you know whatever yeah let's let's get really interested in the complexion of the child and even though like it seemed like harry

was really quick to be like eliminating who it was like space saying who said it wasn't a queen or philip and it seems like they're on like good terms with the queen they're like talking about how they do zooms still with the queen which right which is such like what the fuck kind of but then she talks about how she couldn't just be like oh what's up you're my my man's grandma like so good to meet you like you ready to curtsy motherfucker you know how to do that shit fergie get in here man what the fuck you doing like also y'all need to why are you hitting her with this at the zero hour first of all too like let's help her out but yeah the the other thing i was having trouble when i was texting with in our group thread because anna was like yo it's it's definitely not

the queen or prince philip but i'm like you're saying that the least problematic take in the family didn't come from the grandparents i have a hard time believing that but i get that too but also maybe it's one of those things too because a lot of there's speculation that it was william and maybe it's more shocking because it's from a younger version where it's like oh yeah my grandma's gonna say racist shit yeah that's how that's how they do that's less shocking than my father or brother or something but i'm splitting the difference in saying it's charles just based on first of all like his characterization the fact that like they had to make him sympathetic in the crown and like still you you come away from that just being like

this dude fucking is just hopeless like just a hopeless like privileged self-centered narcissist and then when you read stories about people who have had like unguarded conversations with him that they thought were off the record like this dude is both uh convinced he is brilliant and the dumbest motherfucker like you've ever heard a quote from right and yeah i i would be i would be surprised if it wasn't him or at least like william like talking like taking his side or some shit yeah i do think it's interesting that he said that that his relationship with his brother is currently defined as space right like like they probably don't talk i think i i think it could be i think i mean if prince william said some shit like that about about my uh about

my royal wife i would i would slap the shit out of him i would also leave some space i wonder if it was generational too right because he's like dude grandma ain't gonna have my back and dad's a fuck boy the only person is my brother should have my back and then if he comes through like i'm quite worried about the baby's complexion like yo what the fuck right no all y'all like i'm off this but i at the end of the day it's uh it's again not surprising and surprising you know like it's just this weird thing because we've talked about in the past the wild tabloid shit uh that was said about megan and the racist shit like just like the fucking just like it's like it's like watching fox news when the presidential administration goes from a republican to democrat where suddenly all the shit that you were rocking with is now the wrong thing

yeah it's like so transparent you're like you don't fuck this is just a pr arm for this fucking firm oprah oprah killed that whole interview but like specifically when she was just like going side by side like okay so kate was pregnant and cradling her baby bump and they were like proud mom and then you were pregnant they were like look at her showing off like she thinks she's yo she's doing a bongo solo on that shit he's up right also what a weird thing to comment about oh yeah they get like it's literally everything it's it's pretty wild and like even the i mean piers morgan is you know we we don't go to him for our uh well-informed takes but like the fact that there are people openly being like that was terrible they suck they

were mean to the crown like that there there are people who are like i'm team crown on this one and have been it's like a culture war moment for them over there though too you know what i mean because the second harry picked her he was getting attacked like you fucking race traitor and all this other shit where they were beginning to have that one person's choice um was forcing a reckoning over what even these people thought what the royal family was because clearly him doing that meant now people have been like it's supposed to be just white people like is the you know the energy that they're coming with um and yeah to even like watch now like how people are taking corners how some of you're like we have to like how how could he go

against the crown or whatever it's like well let's first of all be a little more objective about it as an institution uh and what has been done in the name of the crown over centuries i mean even just go to your history museum and you see a lot of stolen shit in there and you're like well you know what's what's the what's this thing really about you know what i mean so it's like they're having to also deal with like sort of the duplicity of it being this like regal monarchy but at the same time it's tied to imperialism empire like you know colonial like being being colonizers i've been to ghana which was an english um colony and i've seen the slave castles where they're sending the slaves from and you're like yeah that's still this is in the name of the like this this shit is everywhere but then there's this like very

elegant face being put on that even i think most people in the world are deceived by like having to be like that old lady and this man like no no like it's it but no but that's what it is i think i think um you know after the oprah interview i think prince harry should should really do this the american way and challenge prince william to a televised boxing boxing match like that is the way to solve the beef it's just like youtube i mean maybe we can even get jake paul and logan paul to to fight before they can be the opening yeah about their card yeah yeah that would be i mean that's how we solve beefs that's how we saw brother v brother that's how we solve beefs in this country like cash me outside william cash me outside i want

to see that that would be i would i would Yeah. Somebody else pointed out on Twitter that the pulling the security thing is also incredibly significant to Harry, because that was what happened with Diana right before she died. And, you know, running away from the paparazzi. And I, I think we're having a kind of referendum on uh just how damaging uh being chased around your entire life

and like having your privacy taken away from you by a when you're a woman by a misogynist paparazzi public eye uh like male gaze feels like yeah that would absolutely completely destroy your life and you know that's what happened to diana that's what happened to britney in america and it sounds like that's the direction that you know megan was headed yeah yeah i mean the whole thing was yeah pretty harrowing uh but yeah it's just i wonder what the reverberations are going to be if any in terms of like if there and being any kind of reckoning with the royal family but i doubt it because they've been going this long without having to have one so why start now i mean they've been everybody but charles has been looking for a reason to skip charles and go right to william when he becomes

king so i don't know if this if it if it does turn out to be charles who was asking that question if they can use that to pick up momentum but that's only because everyone just thinks charles is boring like it's not no no good reason it's not like william i mean that's the other thing is like the media around the monarchy in england is like the 1960s media around jfk like there's all sorts of affairs and shit that they just like they're just like yeah we don't we don't talk about that like nobody knows about that or just what the media is for each respective party. You know what I mean? Like how MSNBC is going to say anything critical of Democrats and Fox would never say anything critical of Republicans. And you're just like you're left with this like fucked up, like just tepid version of reality that isn't really giving you much to think about. Yep.

All right. Let's talk about some progress being made on the vaccination front. We're starting to see up to two million people a day getting vaccinated. My folks just got a an appointment. So that's that's exciting. know uh months of just being like in a kafka s nightmare of just like yeah you're you're signed up psych when you go to the thing to it's just like non non-stop bureaucratic like red tape thrown up in your and they're over 65 anyways we are starting to see some progress there. And now old people are in the process of, you know, figuring out. I guess we're all in the process of figuring out, like, what. What do you do? What's life like now? Because there's a lot of old people who, like, they just feel like day walkers right now.

And they don't know what their abilities are. They're like, hold on. I can't fuck around with. Huh? And, yeah, the CDC now is just, like, letting i can't fuck around with huh um and yeah the cdc now is just like letting people know these are some do's and don'ts now it's there are some there is some pushback where some people like i don't know if you should want to articulate all this out loud like this if it's too much or whatever but this is what the cdc is saying

um first off they're saying if you're fully vaccinated you could let it bang with other fully vaccinated people if you're vaccinated your other people could let it bang with other fully vaccinated people. If you're vaccinated, your other people in your bridge group are also fully vaccinated and you can now kick it indoors. No social distancing, no masks. But it's like up to three or four people, right?

Yeah, exactly. But like still no massive gatherings, but like that is very, very low risk. And they'll say you can forego a quarantine and testing if you've been exposed or, you know, with through contact tracing, you may have been exposed. Okay. So we'll see old people clubs popping up soon.

And the guidelines are also saying that the fully vaccinated can visit with non-vaccinated people without wearing masks or social distancing, as long as the people who are not vaccinated are at a low risk of developing severe covid19 symptoms um and are also like safe with it in other contexts so not somebody who's like oh shit my grandma's in town like fully vaccinated i just got back from this like river rave that was like wildly legal like i'm gonna go kiss her like no no don't do that like if you've been responsible too then like you could have a little socializing as a treat right and yeah so that like this is this is all nice the the other thing is they're not budging on like travel guidelines obviously saying no to massive gatherings and non-essential travel

um but a lot of people like see you should have maybe like led with this about the vaccine rather than like we need to get vaccinated to be safe because if you if you told a lot of people like see you should have maybe like led with this about the vaccine rather than like we need to get vaccinated to be safe because if you if you told a lot of people hey if you're vaccinated you can begin to regain some semblance of your previous life um through this rather than just saying like vaccine and it's the right thing yeah yeah and i think a lot of people knew that already who are like aware enough of what it means to be vaccinated. But I guess that does extend to like, yeah, this is America too. So you need to be like, hey, you this this is how you get back to doing that dumb shit

that you wanted to do. But at the same time, having to balance that with just because you're vaccinated, don't immediately go back to doing the dumb shit. So it's a bit of a balancing act for them. Yeah, I'll admit I had no idea that you could hang out with people after you got vaccinated like yeah i mean i was like i don't want to be presumptuous right right because like because like the mask fiasco it's just confusing it's like don't wear a mask mess don't work and then it's like wear a mask you have to wear a mask actually actually yeah so it's like what you know so it's like this is great i just learned something new and i learned that that yeah we can hang out again now

you want to be vaccinated i'm going to tulum but right like a lot of people have been but i'm going to tulum with my bridge club and we'll play games of bridge in the beach cottages i feel like overall like what what you're talking about the messaging around this like i think the lesson that we're learning that i think is like one of the most like broadest and most damaging myths is that like like thinking about people like they're animals that you're trying to like control with like this command or that command it's like people figure it out like people like i i think more and more we just need to be honest with people because the the kind of controlled flow of information that was attempted where it was like

it's way worse than you think it's you know like just kind of all these different confusing pieces of information just trying to get people to like do the right thing. I feel like that didn't work. We saw that that doesn't work. And like just being honest and not assuming people are, are dumb. Like you're still going to have people who do the dumb thing, but I feel like by like not being completely open with the information throughout the pandemic, it led to some of the people just being like, well, it's all a lie.

And it enabled people who used the pandemic to control and to lie to vast groups of people. They use that as an opportunity to kind of get more of a foothold than they would have otherwise just curious when we're gonna get vaccinated uh i just checked my this so after this story and not because i'm like oh sick parties uh i gotta nice fuck my parents are fucking partying oh i gotta go there dog they're in tulum bro no but i just checked my registration at uh my turn.gov uh they made it into like a my turn like a kid like arguing for that he's first in line um first of all the age group uh that they are grouping me in puts me in with 16 year olds uh 16 to 49 so thank you very much uh but also who said i'm old yeah so anybody who thinks i'm old uh i'm basically a 16 year old uh and then they ask you like the other big question they ask is like what your

profession is and it's all jobs that are important uh and podcaster or media or entertainment podcast host sorry sir not on there the closest i could find is like communications slash uh but they made it communications slash tech support so it's like just basically like things that need to be done in person the geek squad so the geek squad's getting vaxxed yeah for a lot of people who work retail though like they're gonna be able to get vaccinated I'm like yeah exactly like help

people whose business it is to be out in public and exposed and like the people who are able to just home dwell fucking just you know pop the other Netflix shit on and just stay patient for a little bit more. Anyways, me and my fellow kids who are in the other category, they they let us know our turn is coming soon. But I think we're at the very, very end of the line. So we'll see.

very very end of the line so we'll see cool what one kind of sign of normalization that was uh happening over the weekend is that like the box office showed its first signs of life since everything shut down um i think it was like in the 20 like 25 million total box office which would be uh probably in a normal circumstance like the disney movie that came out uh this weekend if it had made only 25 million at the box office like that would have been considered a disaster the entire box office made 25 million and everybody's celebrating uh because this was the first weekend that new york basically had all their movie theaters uh open to 25 percent so like uh max 50 people per theater um and people like came back to the theater they wanted to go to the theater which i think a lot of people were just like what if what if everyone's just like

nah we're we're over it um so new y York is the second biggest market. LA is the biggest. I think they open in the next couple weeks. I know Disneyland and shit is going to be fucking opening the 21st or something. Good luck there. I do wonder if the studios are going to

backtrack on their plan to just drop everything on streaming. Now that they're getting close and like i'm sure they have ways to funnel vaccines to for their people over others because that's typically how america works right um yeah what'll happen but like raya and the last dragon, Disney Plus released it like Mulan, where you have to pay $100 to watch it at home, and not like Soul, which was more mid-pandemic. Everybody gets to watch it because nobody's going to the theater.

They actually held out hope. I just wonder, the big question is Warner Brothers announcing that announcing they're gonna drop all their biggest movies on hbo max like is that going to like in in october when dune is releasing if like all movie theaters are open are they still gonna just drop it on hbo max i doubt it yeah that feels like one of those things where they were like yeah we said that in an ad that doesn't mean shit i mean look how horny they are to make money they made the 25 the box office did 25 million it's like yeah they're not doing shit to help yeah it'll all come down to math you know more people are willing to pay like stay home and pay the hundred dollars to watch ryan the last dragon then they're gonna keep dropping the movies digitally yeah you know yeah uh the movie

theaters will not be happy about that no and i'm yeah that like started a bit of a a conflict as it would because they're like hold on you're trying to fucking skull fucking whole industry by just leapfrogging straight to streaming okay what's really sad is the smaller like the the theaters like alamo draft house and, Nighthawk in New York. Like, they've, I mean, Nighthawk has survived, which, that's my favorite theater in New York. But the Alamo in Texas shut down. That's, like, the home. Yeah, they did call it bankruptcy.

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They just called me from the area code that my high school was in. It said the town that i went to high school and which is tricky or you get the text where it's like says your name and your like city you're in because of like the basic demographic info they can glean and then like you gotta click this link right now man to get your bank of oman gift card i'm like oman not today uh all right let's uh let's talk about Jack in the Box and some other culture bullshit. I mean, dude, 310 is, I guess, National Ranch Day. And we've been planning for that for a while around here.

I mean, yeah, low key, we have been. We got the super soakers filled up with ranch ready to go. But on Wednesday, if you live in L.A., if you're blessed enough to live in this shit pit, you will be able to get all the free ranch you deserve. Because Jack in the Box, they're setting up these stations. They're called like Crave Stations. And they say, Crave, what does that stand for? and they say Crave what does that stand for hold on to your colostomy bags old folks because it's

cool AF ranch automatic vending experience Crave thank you so I said bye to that but they will be apparently set up like around the city just inexplicably just giving out ranch like nobody

needs that they have designed these to look like medical tents also which was a weird decision like the coloring is very strange it looks like a place where you would get a uh brochure and like blood taken dirt like it's it's very strange yeah read the read the maybe they're doing that on purpose yeah they're doing it on purpose they're like yo come get vaxxed get it because of fucking ranch they're like yo LA

come get the cure to bland fries yeah does this mean that that there is this like a promotion that they're now offering ranch at Jack

like is that what's happening they've always had ranch oh really it's just a celebration so they're just promoting ranch yeah it's just like they're buttermilk sauce

but it's just weird it's just like I think it's just they're buttermilk sauce but it's just weird it's just like i think it's just playing off of like the eric andre momentum of like obscene amounts of ranch aesthetic and in this one it's like imagine dude like you can just fill up a fucking bucket of ranch and we're like jack in the box boom i don't know like it also in my mind it's like i have all these sanitary questions like is it just ranch is it byob like bring your own bucket or is it just the little plastic packs that they give out at the store but it looks like if it's automated it's got to be those little individual containers it's a pandemic but where do you guys stand on ranch? Do you dip pizza in it? No, I don't dip pizza in ranch. I do on very specific pizza.

Domino's, I dip in ranch. Because at that point, who gives a fuck? It's really about the dough. If the dough is good, then that crust, baby, it's still its own thing. And you can still enjoy that. It's a breadstick. Yeah, exactly.

And then, yeah, but ranch. I mean, like others, I like it with fries, like more in a fry context. I'm down to, you know, fuck around the burger joint with the ranch, but not, like, I don't have ranch in my home. I'll say that. It's a ranch-free home? Yeah, we do not have ranch in this house. Yeah. Well, me neither.

It's a ranch-free podcast. Exactly. Thank you. But we like, we respect ranch, you know, you but we like we respect ranch you know critical supportive ranch but you know the national ranch day tent has a little slogan on it hey la love that ranch drip um so that's cool uh no we do not no cool like just the uh the excessive like they could have just said cool ranch automatic vending experience but they had to throw the af in well have you been have you seen jack in the box like have you been to a jack in the box sorry excuse me have you been to a jack in the box recently jack no no no the i mean look if you look at the cups and shit, it's all cringy jokes.

Like, it's all. It's all hello, fellow kids. You know, yes, exactly. Just rife with colloquialisms we didn't ask for. Oh, no. Well, speaking of things we didn't ask for, let's talk about another cartoon character who's been canceled. My favorite. My personal favorite what does this even mean when they're defining a thing as being canceled that's not a person or a and this was a hollywood reporter headline too

like so pepe lepew uh who like i i don't know if y'all can even starting it off it's serious like and let's begin with pepe lapute so this character who is a um a skunk who sexually intimidates uh assaults, harasses other animals. I think a paint cat, is that what they're called? Painted cat is one of his targets of choice. Pepe was in a draft of Space Jam 2. And because headline generating editorial rooms saw that blank is canceled. Uh, got them all the traffic last week.

Uh, they are now saying Pepe Le Pew removed from space jam sequel space jam too. Has Pepe Le Pew really been canceled? Looney Tunes character Pepe Le Pew canceled from new space jam movie. Uh, they think of Pepe Le Pew canceled from new Space Jam movie. Think of Pepe Le Pew. Yes. He was removed when they changed directors in 2019.

They hadn't shot any of the live action shit yet. Nothing had been animated. Or sorry, they had only shot the live action stuff. uh nothing had been animated uh or sorry they had only shot the live action stuff nothing had been animated yet and uh the scene was specifically designed to call out pepe's inherently problematic like nature behavior uh and it he mentions that penelope cat has filed a restraining order against him then he tries to kiss grace a santo i'm not familiar with her but she is one of the stars of the movie uh and i've butchered her pronunciation probably but she throws a drink in his face then lebron tells pepe that he can't grab

other tunes without their consent that's what was going to be in the movie uh and the right wing is outraged that that scene was removed what's consent what yeah i mean think about if you're but that's what they're mad that got removed yeah well because nothing exists and nothing's real and like let's be real like looney tunes has had some fucked up characters over the years that didn't like every fucking cartoon. Anyone who's dabbled in animation, there's not a single animated show where people were like, yeah,

I don't know if we can do that one anymore. You know what I mean? But again, because this self victimization complex of just basically like characterizing the changing tides of society as an act of aggression by the oceans against you it's like what are they doing what's going on it's like well things are evolving yeah you're in a fixed position and you're unwilling to actually be have any sort of self-awareness around this

so you're just going to treat this as an attack against you yeah jm our writer was pointing out that looney tune cartoons have always been edited for content like you know obviously some of them are bland for blatantly super racist characters but they've always been modified in some form because they were in the 1940s they were like created for adult

audiences like who they showed before movies during the war where it was literally Bugs Bunny nips the nips was a fucking thing they showed and uh what's the other one there was there was a lot of this wild i mean super problematic shit yeah yeah there's like popeye ones that were like against is the one there's i'm reading right now you're a sap mr jap which was using Popeye to be like, yo, we're fighting the Japanese empire or whatever. Right.

Granted, I get it's the war, but let's not act like you're not in the business of exploiting racial tensions for entertainment with your other characters too, even if it's not a war. Yeah. And in the 60s, they even edited it for just to make it more child-friendly,

without thinking of like offensiveness or anything just like this is going to make more sense to kids like this has always been a thing that Warner Brothers and all cartoon makers do and like the idea that it's new is absurd who are the

who are the cleanest cartoons like Tom and Jerry I feel like they're not going to get canceled uh even them no smoke that cigarette and kills are they bad they just try and kill each other non-stop right uh there's tom is in blackface in the yankee doodle mouse from 1943 jesus christ really yeah there's no i mean like that's the whole thing is like because the cartoons back then was the easiest way to smear another group of people because you could you were in control of their image, their disposition, what they stood for. And yeah, like you got just shit like Speedy Gonzalez. It's like, yeah, this is smearing like Mexican people through this character being like this, you know, like lethargic do like, come on.

or being like this lethargic dude. Like, come on. Yeah. One interesting side note about Pepe Le Pew is that they had a movie that was going to be made up until 2016, a full-length Pepe Le Pew movie, and then it was revealed during the Me Too movement that they had commissioned the script for this movie from Max Landis.

And he described his movie as a romantic French New Wave 60s heist movie starring Pepe Le Pew. it fell apart when, uh, one of the women, he, one of the many women he harassed recounted that he jokingly called her a paint cat, a specific reference to the target of Pepe's advances. So he was like,

aha, I identify with Pepe Le Pew personally. And that is why I want to make a movie about a, uh, cartoon character who repeatedly gets away with, you know also just i can't like you know i i ask people on the right what did what did y'all do to colin kaepernick right you know yep what did you what did you do with all the tipper gore explicit advisory music fucking crusades y'all went on the fucking 80s and 90s that was that was

your that was your version you've been dabbling in cancel whatever you perceive to be cancel culture for a minute um but the difference is right now they've used that sort of same mechanism to try and be like pepsi needs to drop ludicrous uh as bill reilly did like 20 years ago uh and successfully did that to now just basically avoid describing things for what they are which is accountability or the asking people to account for decisions that were being made creatively not that you know whatever i don't need a fucking apology from warner brothers or whatever fucking pepe abuse trash fucking keep it moving i don't give a fuck apology from Warner Brothers or whatever. Fucking Pepe Le Pew's trash. Fucking keep it moving. I don't give a fuck about it. It has nothing to do with my existence as a person who already has a ton of existential threats to deal with.

But, like, this, just watching this all come together, it's exhausting. And it's just the willful ignorance on the right to act like this isn't something that they are very comfortable dealing in rather than saying like can we how about this for a second will i ever see a thing on fox news that says is what pepe lepew doing like if that were a human character or if this is what's being depicted there is that perpetuating rape culture or would they even do a segment on rape culture because if you did you would then have to begin introducing all these analyses to your programming that would all start veering in what they call cancel culture or at least acknowledging oh this thing we've we're this is this has moved

on this is changing for the better and we have to embrace these things versus whatever yeah fighting on behalf of the fossils the point about it being exhausting uh kind of brings me to this last thing i wanted to just bring up in the context this is sort of an ongoing question but uh like i was saying in the intro uh adam curtis his name is the uh documentary director of hyper normalization uh just released a six-part documentary on the bbc can't get you out of my head uh you can find it you can watch it on youtube uh for free like one of the arguments that he makes uh is that culture like both online culture uh and culture like music movies tv like the sort of shit that uh culture wars are fought over is something that has been like almost created by the current like system of power as a release

valve to like get the revolutionary energy out of us um and the way he illustrates this is uh with tupac's mother who was a you know incredible revolutionary a black panther who defended herself in court for a bombing plot she was entrapped into and both got herself and all the other black panthers acquitted and also got the undercover fbi agent to admit that what they'd done together when he was pretending to be part of the black panther movement was beautiful like it's it's like i'm out of a movie like wow like the rom-com where it's like yeah even though i was duplicitous those times were beautiful babe yeah and like their goal was beautiful the goal of the black panther movement as they're trying to make her seem like a villain and then he kind of says so tupac inherits this legacy and he has all the trappings of like revolution

and the energy of a revolutionary but it's sort of pushed off into this direction of more individualistic, artistic expression. And, you know, that's sort of the other side of the coin, like kind of a more straightforward example would be the culture warship, like us arguing over culture warship when you know there is there are people who are starving in america um and so he kind of does a uh historical look at this through and like sort of the prism of u.s chinese uh british history uh over the last like 70 years like through this dichotomy of like individualism versus collectivism and like how individualism has won out and put us in this like version of reality that we live in now where we're sublimating our anxieties and like anxieties that are caused by structural problems uh through like individual expression no aim, but like the beauty of art.

And that like makes us less empowered would be, I guess, an argument that he raises. And I don't know, I thought that was interesting, but just kind of in the context of the culture war. to the culture war i mean yeah if you can swap out your energy for outrage over children being killed in the middle east or you know starving american kids or unarmed black people being killed for getting into like well hold on man lola bunny's titties should look a certain size like right yeah we're fucking you've completely lost the plot um and it's hard to like refocus things or try and get a media to like focus refocus things on like when you have these other things you can kind of like you're saying this release valve and get your anger out on this completely misguided misdirected way but it's a like if it's as cynical as like we're kind of looking at this of how it

organically becomes a system guarding itself against revolutionary action and ideation then it's like very elegant and you're like holy shit i think also in like a very dystopian way it is so much easier to let's call it bully a studio into removing a character because they care exclusively about money and just like okay everyone's mad let's take them out whereas you know affecting real change is fucking hard and the and the gatekeepers are the government you know and the government doesn't give a fuck right like corporations give a fuck because their bottom line will hurt yeah government they don't give a fuck they're not even sending out checks you know like it doesn't matter if it's biden's government it's always going to be yeah more difficult to affect change within the government so it's like it's like this it's a release valve but like we continuously see change i want to use

a funny example like even though it's just as simple as like the sonic the hedgehog uh movie where they were like he looks too human this movie sucks right and so they like literally redid the movie right yeah because the people spoke and and then it's like we won you know and and it's easier to win that way it feels like you're winning yeah when you're having these conversations that like technically don't matter because well yeah or don't matter as much and you compare that to the millions of people who pour into the streets over the summer uh you know against systemic racism and over policing and things like that and it's like can't get a fucking dub there right nope at most you got joe

biden being like shoot him in the leg or fucking how about like we ask nicely for people to show their hands before we start clap it like it's not it that's really do we needed sonic the hedgehog results there. You know what I mean? And I think that's exactly. Yeah, I really like to put it that way. It's like we we're looking for Sonic type responses, but we get in these Sonic type arguments all the time. So it's completely obscures the energy and puts it in many different directions.

Yeah. And those those movements happened when culture kind of ground to a halt. So, I mean, that would be another piece of evidence that there's something about this distracting kind of constant cultural conversation, especially like these current culture war things that are conversations completely started by the right wing that, that is just, you know, siphoning off energy that is much better spent elsewhere. Um,

yeah. So, uh, anyways, Kareem, it has been so fun having you, man. Yeah.

Uh, where can you guys for having me on? Where can people, uh, find you, follow you, get your tweets so they're properly rated?

Kareem on Instagram. Kareemie with a Y on Twitter. Kareem Rahma on TikTok. Just Google. I guess Google Kareem Rahma to find my YouTube, which I put some sketches on. I've had a great time. Thank you guys for having me on the show.

Kareem on Instagram. Damn, man. You were early. Yeah, I was very early. How? I was very early. But I was telling someone about how, like, at one point in my life when I was really broke,

I actually was like, I'm willing to sell this name for, like, $3,000. I was like, this shit. I, like, hit up Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, literally. Like, I DM'd. I slid into Kareem Abdul-jabbar literally like i dm i slid into kareem abdul-jabbar kareem abdul-jabbar's dms i was like yo bro i'll sell you this username for 5gs you think i'm not gonna lie i'm actually looking for at lu al cinder he left me on red dude he's like fuck out of here uh he's like i'm not gonna be i'm the original and is there a uh tweet or some of the work of

social media you've been enjoying in my life like have i what i yeah we just always ask it could be your own or it could be oh no i i had um i saw the zach fox tweet the other day that i thought was really funny and he was just like i just had a zoom meeting in person shit was crazy and i was like fuck does it really does feel like that now yeah it's like if i were to hang out with you guys it would be the weirdest thing i know right like i'm used to this you know i'm used to i'm used to jack and miles on the screen but like if we ever did this in person yeah just like yo uh miles where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. And also twitch.tv slash 420dayfiancé.

Also the other podcast, 420dayfiancé, where we just talk 90 day. But, you know, off the loud. Some tweets that I like. Let's see. Do I like any tweets this tweet is from lacey mosley our beloved scam goddess at diva lacey uh and tweeted i understand there's a wealth of privilege uh in being born royal but if someone told me at birth i was a mascot for colonialism i'd move to la too but that felt right and then another one is from uh at ryan s wilders black ginger tweets

oprah who said that shit meg i'm not gonna say oprah okay i respect that oprah harry who said that shit to you oh my god classic uh her hand gestures on were you silent or silenced uh were beautiful uh her eye widening yeah what academy award level yeah there were three what's in there that deserve emmys uh their own emmy nomination but also like an emmy because that's a black person acting surprised at white people's racism too so i want to give a double credit to that because you know if that wasn't tv she's like i heard that she's like i heard that shit man i know but i was like hey double up the awards for that one. Shocked by racism is another one. Uh,

shit. Um, there were so many good tweets during that interview. I don't even know where to start. Uh, Brody Gupta just tweeted quote, Harry, your name said out loud,

unlike your wife's could also be an adjective. Tell me about that. Uh, and then why I'm not conducting the interview. And Matt Rogers. So the whole conversation about who made who cry first, Megan or Kate. And it was revealed by Megan that it was actually Kate who made her cry. revealed by megan that it was actually kate who made her cry uh and like matt rogers asked the real question okay were the flower girls dresses cute or not which come on i mean you do want to see the dresses in question you know absolutely yeah like i kind of wanted more detail on that manny fidel tweeted I've become radicalized. And then it's like a mega hat, but it says, make Lola Bunny fine as hell again. Oh, gosh.

Yep. That's on the way. And then Raina tweeted, God save the queen from these hands. I liked that. Put it on a shirt. Yes. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us

on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we recommend you go check out.

Miles, what song are we recommending? I mean, so this is a remix of 21 Savage's No Heart, but it's by the producer Lappalux, who I love Lappalux. But this is like a slowed down verse, almost halftime, and the beat is just fucking nasty, synthed out, trappy. Like it's just adding more, less heart to an already heartless lyrical track. So check this one out. It's called Lapolux No Heart Remix, but it's spelled N-O-H-R-T if you're looking for it on SoundCloud.

Are you guys on Clubhouse at all? I just like have the app going in the background 21 savage is all over that shit oh yeah he's i haven't like checked him out yet i mean i think didn't i i forget who i was talking to but he really tried to like squash some beef with meek mill and people in a very responsible way and i was like yeah it's just playing elder statesman on clubhouse right now and this shit is the wildest thing and then other other notifications i get are like our nft is a thing crypto gang sound off and i'm like what the fuck are these other rooms going off constantly

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