The Daily Zeitgeist - Comedy Putin Would Love, Holocaust? Gotta Hear Both Sides 10.18.21

Episode Date: October 18, 2021

In episode 1010, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and food writer Danny Palumbo to discuss the Jan 6th Subpoena Dodgers are entering the find out phase, Texas wants to BOTH SIDES the fucking Holocaust? Hannah Gadsby to Netflix: KEEP MY NAME OUT YOUR MOUTH, A Medical Condition Where You Have Zero Visual Imagination? And more!FOOTNOTES: Jan 6th Subpoena Dodgers are entering the find out phase…UPDATE Texas wants to BOTH SIDES the fucking Holocaust?  Hannah Gadsby to Netflix: KEEP MY NAME OUT YOUR MOUTH A Medical Condition Where You Have Zero Visual Imagination? LISTEN: Gotts Street Park - Diego Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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to season 207 207 episode one of dear dailies i guys production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it is monday october 18th 2021 i don't need to tell you what international day it is because you already know it is of course international i'll tell you right now it's a blockbuster one it's international legging day thank you and national chocolate. Woo. Shout out to Chocolate Cupcakes. Shout out to the leggings that we're all rocking as we record this. Yep. Thank you, too. Yeah.

What is it? Lula Roe for sponsoring this episode? Yes, yes. We love our leggings. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Somebody once told me that when your bread gets moldy you throw it at the smash mouth dude's head i said no that's fucking dumb he's got prime anti-vax cum but then plants started forming in my head well the band starts strumming and the itch starts coming reaching the bags and the

whole wheat humming didn't make sense to huck just one through half a loaf at that raging bum uh that is all courtesy of uncle brew talking about my one of my favorite youtube videos where people threw bread at the smash mouth singer's head he left into the audience to fight them all while the band vamped the beginning of all-star for like 20 minutes truly an impressive feat of concentration and now he has resigned so we bid adieu to that dude anyways i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray it's miles gray decked out in that Dodger blue You know he's coming A.K.A. Hideo Noho

Straight from North Hollywood With that wind up He's so twisted up You thought he was a backwoods blunt And my goodness I don't know how game one of the NLCS went But I know how game five of the NLDS went And I feel a little bit bad for the giants i'm not gonna lie i'm not gonna

i was that's uh that would have been trash if i was on the other end of that one i was saying before we started recording that you know i've become a dodgers fan through osmosis like i used to be a red sox fan and then when the dodgers were playing the world series i realized i was rooting for the dodgers just because i'm scared of the Dodgers fans. Mostly they're really mean. Yeah. But no, I really enjoy the team. I love Ken Lee Jansen, even though it's a little unnerving to have a closer that has all these like nervous ticks in his pitching motion. Kind of like I feel like I would have phases to it. Yeah yeah i feel like i wouldn't want a pilot who was like do it going through a bunch of like a routine of like ticks and uh crossing

himself and doing all these different things before uh taking off a plane i feel like the same thing when i watch ken lee jansen pitch i feel like that everyone feels like oh boy here we go yeah come on old gill but yeah man that that was that was fucking brutal we we can talk about I was like, oh, boy, here we go. Yeah. Come on, old Gil. Come on, old Gil. But yeah, man, that was fucking brutal. We can talk about it after we introduce somebody who we're thrilled to be joined in. Yeah. Our third seat by a very funny comedian writer living in Los Angeles. You've heard him on NPR, seen him on Fuse, Kevin Hart's LOL Network and TruTV.

And he's been selected to Just for Laughs New Faces and named the funniest person in Austin, Texas. He writes about food for the Austin Chronicle, LA Weekly Eater, The Takeout, which we use all the time, LA Mag, and was named one of America's top up-and-coming comics by

Vulture. Please welcome the hilarious and talented Danny Palumbo! Yeah! Have some fun with it. It's me, Danny Palumbo! Yeah! Have some fun with it. It's me, Danny Palumbo, a.k.a. Pecorino Marino, a.k.a. Tony Rigatoni. Hey, what's up? I got pasta aliases. I know.

Those are great, man. Let them know. What's one for Farfalle? Well, we can think of another one. Yeah, bow tie pasta? I don't know. Yeah, right. Anyway, what's new for farfalle well we can think of another one yeah bow tie pasta i don't know yeah right anyway what's new man not man just chilling just doing all the all the credits that y'all mentioned that's the first time somebody mentioned every single thing i've done before hey that was it i was like i was impressed by all of them i don't normally do the whole list but those are all fucking dope well i i needed it because I don't have the one knockout that's like, you've seen

them on Conan. You know what I mean? All of those come together to make a mighty fist, Daniel. A knockout blow. If you will. A check swing that gets called strike. If you will.

Yeah, I feel for the Giants fans it was like a magical season they were the it came out of nowhere to have the best record in baseball and then yeah i you know i was during the game i was turning to my dad is in town uh so it's fun watching watching baseball with the old man and i just kept turning to him being like, what? You believe this shit? We're getting, the Dodgers are getting some calls here. And then they got the ultimate call that put them on through to the next round. Yeah. And a check swing that wasn't a strike.

It was stressful though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, for sure. I felt for everyone, even like when, whether we were at bat or the Giants were at bat, you're like, fuck dude, every single throw is like mattering right now. Yeah. And like a fucking, like a strike three call just was just like felt like oh my god yeah yeah how are you gonna come back from everything the stakes but that's what i love about this time of year in

baseball that the stakes are at their highest mostly i felt for e40 that was yeah you mean cory booker all right danny we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. We're talking about January 6th subpoenaed Dodgers who are entering the find-out phase of the fuck-around-and-find-out process. We're going to talk about Texas trying to both sides the fucking Holocaust, maybe? Pretty wild. We're going to talk about Hannah Gadsby telling Netflix to keep their name out of their fucking mouth.

And, you know, I'm not even going to mention it. Maybe we'll get to this other story that I've been introing for a month now that I'm very interested in. But before we get to any of that danny we do like to ask our guests what is something from your search history yeah uh this is just today i had to google uh limping my dog just like sprained her like paw or something and she's been like limping around i was like what do i do about that because she's not like her i will say though it does look like kind of cool she's kind of walking around with like a pimp walk right now yeah you know i'm saying first step yeah a little bit of

a deeper step danny where's my treats she's got like a little bit of an attitude right now right coming out okay all right i'm like you know you saw no paw injuries no nothing like that it's just a nah i don't think dude i think what i've learned from owning a dog is like you have to deal with like the guilt sometimes of like you feel but she's just like there's nothing i can do you can take it to her vet they're gonna charge you 200 bucks to be like yeah she sprained her wrist or whatever right you know she's just gotta you gotta walk it off right yeah that's it just tell her to stay off of it and yeah you know it's like okay yeah hey hey what i to stay off of it. And yeah, it's like, okay. Hey, what I said, stay off of it.

Come on. You're not going to get better doing that. But all of our dads told us as kids, right? Like I got a, I got a black guy from a baseball game and he's like, yeah, it'll be fine. Yeah.

Wear an eye patch to school. You'll be good. That's always good advice. Wear an eye patch to school. They make it funny. Wear an eye patch. They'd have to be absolutely sick. and they'll start making fun right that and since you don't need it you you win kid with an eye patch you don't know what he's capable of yeah i remember our dog used to like whenever

there would be a leg injury he would just transform into like being a three-legged dog and just like curl up the the hurt one and yeah i was always three legged dog and just like curl up the hurt one. And I was always kind of impressed by it. Just like fine. Just, you know, it made me wish I had four legs. Yeah. The one time I had my dog was limping. I remember like he howled in pain, like just trying to get up on the bed.

And I was like, oh, shit. Yeah. But then it was like fine the rest of the day and then did it a second time like the next day and i was like i gotta go to the vet cut to being charged 200 to say yeah i mean we're not seeing any damage or anything it's probably just gonna pass i'm like you shouldn't charge me this much then please yeah you didn't even do but i get it that's that's how they get you it's a racket They know we care about our dogs too much so you have to act like you don't. You're like, yeah, no, I mean, whatever.

If you have to put her down, that's fine. I mean, whatever you got to do. We'll charge you 50 bucks. It's fine. Oh my God. Yeah. And then like the one time that you go and it is something that like needs their attention.

It's ruins. It's ruins it ruins you because then you're like shit yeah they're like oh do you have a canine dialysis machine yeah i'm like oh what you're gonna want one of those you don't want one of those 20 grand oh fuck yeah okay i guess i'll sell my car or something yeah Yeah. But that's what's so wild. I feel like so many dog owners or pet owners now, because of the veterinary technology and the treatments have come so far along, you can seriously entertain the idea of prolonging a pet's life in a way that I remember in the 80s and 90s. That shit was like, I remember you had friends with dogs

who just walked around with wild tumors hanging off of them. Yeah. And you're like, yeah, man, he got a have friends who dogs would just walk around with wild tumors hanging off of them. Yeah. And you're like, yeah, man, he got a tumor. And that was just it. You know? And like, you never thought anything of it. You're like, but now you, if you're at a dog park, you'd be like, I have to call somebody like this. Yeah.

Is this dog okay? And not to say that we're, you know, I don't have any commentary on where we're headed, but it's just like the fact that we have these tools now, I think is making it much harder than it used to be to just accept like this is our pet unfortunately like you're you're gonna see a you're gonna see a dog with like full-on robot legs yeah a couple of years like that's coming yeah it's gonna be like crying from a laser yeah a laser like kano eye yeah for something like a deep red eye like jesus christ they're like what part of this is still your dog it's like one of those boston dynamics robots oh my god yeah the tail look at the tail squirrels are fucked when that happens all right uh what is something you think is overrated danny oh let's get into it ha Halloween candy. I think Halloween candy.

I mean, OK, so if we're looking at the two candy holidays, and this is going to be a takeout thing that gets published next week. OK, and I think we've talked nearly every candy article on the takeout that's been there, except for the latest one about the tastiest ones, I think was the one I saw today. when i saw it yeah i if you're comparing two candy holidays it's like how is easter a christian holiday how does it have like better candy like how are they more experimental with like flavors and like jelly beans and like even peeps like kind of like switched it up and they started putting out all these different flavors it's not just like the yellow things anymore like they're getting wild but halloween candy has had this same sort of like quaker ass puritanical flavors for years every candy bar has been invented pre-1950 dude it's all tootsie pops and like you know wax fangs and stuff and like right it's all function yeah

there's no like experimentation with like flavors and stuff and i think that like halloween, like they should do companies need to do something different because they're taking swings on Easter. Yeah. Yeah. You know, always been. I remember my like my mom, you know, she's from Japan. So Easter is like the fuck. Oh, it's that thing I do in April. But like on my dad's side, like my grandparents, they would always have.

They took that shit seriously because you know they were they were fucking jesus heavily but i always remember my grandfather he loved like dove chocolate uh truffles and like they would come out with like these smaller easter ones and that's all it would be i'm like we're eating straight luxury chocolate today yeah yeah and that always felt more meaningful as they actually hollered but now that i think about it yeah there there's something about that grab bag of like the the the uh what am i looking for the palette of candy that we paint halloween with that feels just in need of a refresh yeah because they don't have like a specific thing like jelly beans and chocolate rabbits and you know eggs right that but that's not that candy corn doesn't go in the win column.

Right. No. You know what I'm saying? Well, but neither did jelly beans for a long time, in my opinion. That's true. As big a fan as I am of Ronald Reagan, I was not a fan of jelly beans. And they did plus those up. I think the Starburst jelly beans really, really fucking nailed it.

That would have been mine, too. Starburst Jelly Beans are legit. And Jelly Belly at least has 50 different flavors in a bag. Yeah, it's an adventure. They're still trotting out the same five barely discernible tastes. But, you know. Yeah, what the fuck? Levels of lemon flavor.

Yeah, yeah. Yellow 5. Mmm. Hell yeah. I love red 12 coloring oh say less because yeah they are trying to plus up Halloween they are trying to plus up the candy corn

and it's not going well as far as I can tell the the turkey dinner one looks looks like a fucking war crime I mean that shit looks awful that's not real is it oh you haven't seen that i mean i saw that picture but that's real yeah yeah somebody reviewed it and it's

exactly as bad as you would expect it yeah i don't i don't want turk apple pie and coffee and turkey dinner they pulled a group of children and they all said they like gravy they want gravy candy right and yeah what they do is they just take people like they go into a pot that's been cooking gravy and they just skim what's on the side of the fucking pot and then they shape that into the fucking jelly beans that's rough but yeah like wax lips are something that we could work with i'm trying to think about like what are the other shitty like shitty halloween candies yeah but i don't think of those as necessarily how man i remember being handed that in my neighborhood as a kid i was like what the

fuck is this a riddle cake yeah it's all 1950 and before like milk like look at when those especially candy bars like look when they were all invented and it's like 1950 and before like milk like look at when those especially candy bars like look when they were all invented and it's like seriously like 1926 it's like all between 1920 and like 1945 so it's crazy like how have we not invented a new candy bar since like i don't know like the take five or something yeah that's what it feels like there's like kind of refreshes on some of them right even then you're not seeing that in handout. Whatchamacallit, I think, was the closest we came to getting a staple that was new. You know, really captured a generation with the name.

Who is behind big Halloween candy? You know what I mean? And what deals are being made that we can't upend and, you know, blow up the paradigm? I feel like it might be because people... White supremacy. White supremacy. blow up the paradigm i feel like it might be because white people because of white supremacy because people are buying for other people's kids and so they just don't give a shit they're just buying in bulk and they're like i don't know take it you little piggies and then like with easter and christmas they're buying for their own kids and they have to see the disappointed ass looks on their faces when they

get the easter basket and are like oh great more sugar flavored pills great so we need to so we need to teach our children to display more outward disapproval towards what they're giving at someone's door yeah to begin to see mission feeling. Yes. Because people, I totally get your point, Jack, because we're all, most human beings are wired to people, please,

on some level. The opinions of other people can affect many decisions that people make. So if we have kids start going, oh, for real?

Fuck you, lady. You know? Then they're like, oh my God. Or they'd be like, next time, why don't you turn it up with some high choose ever heard of those?

Or you don't like to go to that part of town where the Asian markets are at. Check your shit. Maybe there should be some repercussions, you know, I give out, you give out shitty candy. Well, there's a couple of eggs on your wrist.

actually we did do that anyway. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just wondering, like maybe I like the idea of going international like maybe that is how like have if you're gonna do a haunted house instead of just having like you know it looking like jason is sawing a dummy's head off maybe you like you know get creative with it and

like bring an international flavor and like get out candy from other countries it's it's the devil's holiday also right right like it's supposed to fucking rule and sin and like it's supposed to be those things yeah yeah it's also candy is the only part of easter that allows for any sort of creativity and fun whereas halloween is like you know you're too focused on your costume and your haunted house and good point good point and also candies like the staples are pretty good like getting a you know king-sized snickers yeah that feels like a win yeah you're yeah you're you're winning no matter what generation you are or yeah or turn it up go go generous on them you know hand out king sizes yeah i mean but anyway that's why i'm like off the traditional ones i'm handing out edibles this year yeah

yeah man that's i got started man it's hard to start cutting up little edibles and put them into little tootsie roll wrappers unwrap the tootsies then wrap the edibles in the tootsie roll it's a lot of work people don't talk about that. It's held together with a rubber band. When I put my Halloween candy in the corner of a Ziploc bag, rip it off, tie it in a knot. Yeah. After buying a sack of Ye. They're like, no, it's Pixie Stix, kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Let's do a couple gummers of that. You ever try it? Yeah, gummers. Oh, my God. What is something you think is underrated? Pizza in LA. Mm. is yeah yeah yeah let's do a couple gummers of that you ever try it yeah gummers oh my god what is something you think is underrated pizza in la yeah i mean like don't try to compare it to new york obviously but like i don't know man unless i lose our minds compared to new york well there was a an article came out i got it and i know, too, but it was for L.A. Meg, and the article was a little click-baity. It was just like, these eight pizza places are better than anything in Brooklyn.

I was like, why would you say that? Why would you say that? Are they all eight L.A. pizza places? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Oh, like these eight L.A. places you thought you were in the 718. Okay.

Yep. I could imagine a world where their editor added that headline after they wrote the article because here's the thing i don't know man no that's possible yeah their editor is usually pretty good about that like when she has edited my stuff okay and i'm like yeah yeah oh she was she was i didn't feel embarrassed when it came out right right whereas sometimes you're like shit i didn't say that at all so what are you loving about our pizza out here it's just different i just think it's different in a way that's like a california has more fun with stuff especially food so it's not like this super rigid like but like you get like different styles of like i like hail mary pizza a lot

it's almost it's i think it's like square ish but it's it's it's like almost like a sourdough crust oh but it's like it's it's got like a little funk to the crust and it's salt it's salted so well dude that i was i just the crust like was like such a bonus for me oh that's my favorite pizza when you that's what i'm saying fucking dope like just yeah the crust was even an experience yeah the hell mary was great i just went to this place last night that was like neapolitan style which some people hate like you kind of have to eat it with a fork and knife but i was like oh it was fucking good there's people selling pizza out of their like apartments and shit there's secret pizza la i wrote about this guy who moved here from jersey and he's doing like if you like a new york style pie like he's

doing it out of his like oven, which is wild. He boosted it to get it hotter, which his landlord can't be happy about. But it's legit, and I think good. And I think people talk shit about the pizza here a lot. But it seems like some really sullen New Yorkers who are just like, I just can't find a good slice. Yeah. Well, also, don't buy your pizza on Hollywood Boulevard, for starters for starters at the place they're like hey we got big new york slices tourists yeah you're like no this ain't it but yeah that's true like especially there's this

other place side pie that like started off where like these pizza enthusiasts were just built an oven in their backyard and we're serving it like quite literally out the side of their backyard yeah and then just moved to a brick and mortar place and their pizza is fucking phenomenal but i'm saying what's it called side pie it's an ultimate there's there's people with like ovens and like the back of their truck and like a parking lot of the liquors of a liquor store i don't know it's just like fun here yeah the food seems like more fun right right it's like It's like, it's like, you know, right. Like New York is the birthplace of hip hop and people around the world found ways to make it their own. Yeah.

It's the same thing. We're out here being like, Hey man, we're doing a fucking truck style. Like, I don't know. I, we get the tenants of pizza comes from New York. Thank you. Yeah. But then every place will transit. Tacoma style.

Like Joe's is my favorite. The Yoda bro yoda style joe's is my favorite plane slice in manhattan and they brought that out here and i feel like i mean first of all they have one on hollywood boulevard and it's pretty much as good as the new york one but like nobody really gives a shit about it i feel like out here well that's part of it when it's like 110 in the summer or whatever it feels like, you're not like, I'm going to drive to West LA to get pizza. Right.

When you work, you just walk around and eat it. But here, it's like, I'm not going to get my car right now. Are you insane? Yeah. So, I mean, that's part of it, probably. The Joe's in New York is also right by the West 4th subway stop. So, it's got a lot of good foot traffic and that might be why it became my favorite place

is because I was always walking by it and smelling it and being like, yeah, I'll grab one. Oftentimes when they try to bring the New York staple here, it doesn't work. I know Russ and Daughters just did like a, I don't know if it was a pop-up or what, but they were slinging bagels. And a friend of mine got it.

And it was like, it was not good. Whereas, I mean, when you're eating it there, I mean, it's like top five things I've eaten. I'm like,

holy shit. Right. But like, apparently here it was just like, not, not great. So stop trying to make it New York. It's not.

Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Do you have, do you have Bell's bagels in Highland park? No, I haven't. People like that.

I had, I had their everything. Pretty good. Pretty solid. Love good everything. Yeah, I mean, that's all praise to the everything bagel. Yes, yes. All right, let's take a quick break, and we'll be right back.

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What kind of bagel are we talking here? Yeah, it was everything. I think so, yeah. It was everything, and it was everything. It was everything to me, pal. All right. Let's talk about the subpoena Dodgers who are entering the find-out phase

of the fuck-around-and-find-out sitch. Steve Bannon said he wasn't showing up to his little insurrection appointment on thursday uh last thursday i believe he didn't right nope he said fuck that and then immediately on thursday they were like well we are going to move to a criminal referral then because i think again most people were like man these people aren't going to do shit right and i think we still are at a point where like well let's see what happens and i think you know liz cheney she definitely turned up her rhetoric as well as being one of the two republicans on this commission said in general quote in general people are going to have to appear or you know we will move contempt charges against them. And then essentially saying, like, we'll see if they show up. If they show up, we'll be prepared.

Now, all this to say is, OK, well, here's the deal. How are there going to be consequences for ignoring a congressional subpoena? So what happens is first they have to make a criminal referral in the committee and then they'll vote that out of committee. criminal referral in the committee, and then they'll vote that out of committee. If that makes it out of committee, then it will go to a full House vote to vote on saying, okay, they have completely ignored a congressional subpoena. Are we down to move this forward to refer this to the Department of Justice? If that passes, then it goes to the Department of Justice, where if Merrick Garland is about to do the right shit, he will then put a U.S. attorney on it who will then determine if they need to put what charges to bring for this. Now, it's really going to boil

down to how aggressive Mayor Garland is going to be and like and, you know, applying the law equally, but also how the courts are going to look at executive privilege, too, because that's the thing that everyone keeps talking about. And it's sort of putting people in a weird space like where Bannon has not been in the White House for some time. So his claim of executive privilege doesn't really apply. People like Mark Meadows, who was like the chief of staff, it's a little bit closer, but still a lot of people like that shouldn't protect someone from citing an insurrection, even if they are in office, what's happening here. And so the fact still remains that Bannon could try and drag this out and say, okay, take me to a trial. Let's do a jury trial, which would be actually in the District of Columbia. And I'm guessing the residents of DC

probably aren't too happy about what happened on January 6th. And he could potentially face up to a year in jail. And if he really didn't want to testify, then what if he says, well, fuck it, I'll do a year on my head and I still won't say anything. And what are you going to do now? That's still a possibility. Now,

whether or not he fears jail time and this and that, I think that's where all these things are going to, we're going to quickly see who is built for talking the talk and who's going to walk the walk. Right. Well, he's, he's not built for jail time at all.

No, but I mean, you know, he'll try. Imagine if he came out like super jacked. Oh, yeah. After like a year of prison. Ripping through all three dress shirts that he wears. Wow, Bannon's hot now. What happened? Yeah, like when Ted Cruz had a beard and suddenly

people were like, I don't know. No, no, no. You're still talking about Ted Cruz. Stop. like yeah like when ted cruz had it beard and suddenly people were like i don't know what do we like ideally hope to learn from from this process like do it because i just feel like they will even if we got them to testify they would just obfuscate and delay and redirect and just do all sorts of bullshit like dude i'm just curious like what what's the best case scenario of of this or worst case scenario for them is that they just like feel like they go to jail right you know yeah face fines yeah Right. You know? Yeah. Face fines. Yeah. But also become like martyrs. Right. You know? So there's that aspect because once that starts happening, you know, the right wing media

machine is going to kick off and, you know, draw this out as long as possible because they've already the mission of the GOP is already to paper over January 6th. So it's nothing that put a bad taste in anyone's mouth, as we saw where they pledged allegiance to a fucking flag from that was, you know, carried peacefully on January 6th, as the woman said. So, uh, yeah, I mean, it's, it's jail time, the threat of jail time and you know, how that would alter their lives if they want to face those penalties for not testifying. And I'm sure for the people in the committee, they want to know every single person that's involved.

But then it's like, well, is our judicial system and our society built in a way that will actually hold people to account for this? Because it's also a hard thing where even normal people are like, yeah, that was fucked up. Also, I'm being underpaid and I'm quitting my job. So while that's cool, I also have other things it's there's a lot to balance here as you described the amount of hoops they would have to go through i was like oh it's gonna fall off somewhere it feels like you know yeah someone's someone's gonna drop the ball in that process or like they're not gonna

charge them or whatever i just didn't have faith in the the process you described yeah i think that's why we'll see right because they're they said tuesday they're gonna they're gonna vote in committee to do a criminal referral right and then we'll see how quickly the department of justice moves the department of justice like thank you here we go here's an attorney knock knock yeah bannon then other people who are going to be like oh they normally don't do that and it's happening yeah okay but then i don't know what kind of legal liability these people have like they're going to incriminate themselves by being like yeah so i helped planned it with these people like you know what i mean like that they're also

not going to say some shit like that right right yeah like the ideal version the idealized version of this investigation is like they uncover like a conspiracy that involves like elected officials conspiring with people but like i just i can't at this point like imagine that coming out in any way that the republicans would allow we've already saw in that senate report just exactly what the administration was doing in the days after the election to try and pressure states to overturn the results so yeah there is a conspiracy. Oh, for sure. Yeah.

But like, so I don't know. You know, there will clearly be things like people are wanting to know, like who if people, actual members of Congress were helping coordinate and things like that. I'm sure those are like the answers that they probably want to bring to the public's attention and then see how the outrage moves from there. But, yeah, it's there's not a version where it's like gonna be like mark meadows is like and donald trump made us all do it and here's the tape that will put him in jail like that ain't happening yeah yeah but at the very

least you know some visibility i think that's i think that's the thing that they want to try and change is that like you can't just do it get away with it and kind of scratch your head and like, I wonder who's involved. Right. Because at this point and we're we're in the alternate timeline where he's just like oh no and then they end up you know being the the family at the beginning of back to the future right so only time travel can thank you and you can quote that that's when it all made sense for me when you use the back to the future reference all right this so banning and the whole gop let's talk about texas the hits just don't stop to quote smash mouth the hits start coming and

they don't stop coming from the lone star state And this week we've got a directive that was given to teachers in the Carroll Independent School District in South Lake. So Greg Abbott had signed this HB 3979 into law, which essentially made it illegal to make white people feel bad by teaching them history. That's what the wording of the bill seems to suggest, if you really read it. Isn't there like mental anguish or something in there? Yeah, it says, no teacher, administrator, or other employee in any state agency, school district, etc. shall require or make it part of a course the following concepts. And there's like a few going on. Number six, an individual by virtue of his or her race or sex bears responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex. That's slavery, I think. And then number seven is any individual should feel discomfort, guilt, anguish or any other form of psychological distress on account of his

or her race or sex or eight meritocracy or traits such as hard work ethic are racist or sexist or were created by by a member of a particular race to oppress members of another race wow oh boy yeah that's like you know i mean but it is their interpretation of oh sure yeah what the yeah they're like you want our kids to feel bad that they're white and it's like that's not really the point but they can't yeah yeah they can't teach if they have this much white guilt right right to yeah well what are they going to do and then but the all this is where the holocaust part comes in and i hate to even say this the holocaust part comes in. And I hate to even say this. The Holocaust part comes in. It also says, quote, teachers who choose to discuss current events are widely debated and currently controversial issues of public policy or social affairs shall to the best of their ability strive to explore such issues from diverse and contending perspectives without giving deference to any one perspective.

Yeah, that seems like a problem. So this is where it happened so a parent in the school district apparently and i'm presuming that this parent was just a sentient burning cross lost their shit on the school district because a fourth grade teacher had an anti-racist like anti-racism book in the classroom like just there like just like among the books in the classroom and because of that there had to be a training with teachers to remind them about this HB 3979, where Gina Petty, who's the Carroll School District's Executive Director of Curriculum and Instruction,

had to just make sure. He's like, okay, I'm here because we had a thing, and I got to just make sure that everybody understands what's going on here. And I'll play a clip of this meeting, because a teacher was like somebody in the meeting was like, we need to record this shit because I don't even know what the fuck they're about to say. Which leads us to this audio clip because someone decided to record

this training session. This is a moment where teachers were confused by saying like, what do you mean we have to show other person? Like, what does this even mean? Like, this doesn't even make sense. This is where she articulates what exactly this means as you go through just try to remember the concepts of 39 79 and make sure that if if you have a book on the holocaust that you have one that has opposing that has how do you oppose the holocaust believe me that's come up so number the stars yeah wow so what do you do that with believe me that's come up throw out some examples while you're up there jesus christ yeah wow yeah like so they're like they're like uh huh i'm sorry though so what you're gonna you're gonna bring up like the the wording of Wow. Yeah. So they're like, they're like, huh?

I'm sorry. So what? You're going to, you're going to bring up like the, the wording of like the final solution. We want to just get the other side, you know, you got to. The protocols of the elders of Zion. Like, what are you? I'm just saying it's come up, Miles. It's come up.

Okay. That like people who had like disabilities are also undesirables and should therefore be like it's a wide i mean like i'm not saying it's the only thing you teach okay i'm just saying exactly and this is what this i don't know i guess i guess hitler's speech at the reichstag is going to be taught as well to be like, and I don't know, guys, I won't give deference to either one of those. Now, clearly that sent the entire world or people who are observing like this, like this is absolutely disgraceful. What are you talking about? The author of this bill, the state senator, was basically like,

whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's not at all this bill's purpose. Like, fuck, no, no, no no no like we're not trying to do that i'm glad and he's like i'm glad we're we're having these conversations to elucidate what the actual bill's uh intention was which really is they just want to disconnect children from a feeling of moral or societal obligation to create a more inclusive and just world that's what we want to do not both sides nazis and although that happens it happens jesus so can they do that you know what i'm saying like this has to end at some point right they can't

actually well i mean the this is why the right has been so adamant about like what when talking amongst themselves about like going after the school boards is that you know they are the people who determine like what gets taught in in schools you know i mean i don't i didn't think that they were directly implying that they should teach the hot teach holocaust denial to children yeah yeah it does seem like that could easily be a consequence of the... It sounds like, though, it might not... I don't know, that potentially it wouldn't go that far. That's like an extreme example,

because they're definitely looking in terms of like racism, but it's like, that's still fucking heinous, too. Like, why are you both sizing all this shit up? Yeah. Is anything close to this happening in another state at all? Or is it mostly just like Texas? I mean, I'm sure if... I mean, to the point where you know there are people who are definitely being taught

completely fucked up versions of what the Civil War was. I've lived back east. I've lived in Texas. And I've lived on the West Coast. And I can't... Looking back on my five years, just even in Austin, I was like, oh man, that was like living on another fucking planet. Yeah. Like was like oh man that was like living on another fucking planet yeah like it was the closest thing to like living on like an alien planet like these

people are just like completely bonkers and they're everywhere even in austin also like people are like oh it's like a liberal hub and i'm like nah dude it's still fucking texas right you're very aware of that like yeah and i again just as people realize that, you know, the platform, their political party's platform is just about, you know, feigning the flames of like racial grievances and not really about any kind of outcome. Like the only way to fight strike back is to just create voters who have no wherewithal or context for anything. So it's like if only we could have crank out more kids who when we say nazi shit don't go oh my god that's nazi shit yeah right i mean that's the long game but right as of now like you're it's it's a pretty hard slamming on the brakes for a lot of people just like that's i mean you can hear all those teachers voices when she's there like the holic like what yeah and i mean i don't know it's it's another time when we're we're only

seeing this because somebody happened to be recording it you know like similar to the the george floyd's murder like that you know the it's reflective presumably of not just this one person. It's like there is a strong undercurrent of just very intense white supremacy throughout the country. And isn't Texas the biggest purchaser of textbooks? Yeah. So they have a huge stake in what is even in the textbooks. Right. That's true. what is even in the textbooks. I can only imagine if, and I don't know, I'm completely ignorant as to

how HB3979 would affect the textbooks or if there's going to be more of a mandate now coming from this large buyer of textbooks. We've got a couple notes here. Alright, let's take a quick break and we'll come back.

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has been in a bit of a shitstorm since last week as he just like kind of continues to completely fumble the backlash against Dave Chappelle's last week as he just like kind of continues to completely fumble the backlash against dave chapelle's just horribly transphobic bs special the the closer so sarandos kicked things off by essentially saying that netflix pushes boundaries and comedy does man yeah. Yeah. They had a conflict with a trans employee who was unhappy with their employer's actions and suspended and then unsuspended that employee. It was like, oh, I had nothing to do with that. We just suspend people all the time.

It was because they were vocal about criticizing the company. It was like this whole other thing. And yeah, it's getting worse now. Like he put out a letter to employees trying to explain the mess away and how it's really not that bad because Netflix also has like stuff with like gay people, too. So that's chill. And he said this is in this quote. Adults can watch violence, assault and abuse or enjoy shocking stand up comedy without it causing them to harm others. We are working hard to ensure marginalized communities aren't defined by a single story. So we have sex education, oranges into black, control Z, Hannah Gadsby, and Dave Chappelle all on Netflix. Key to this is increasing diversity

on the content team itself. Hannah Gadsby did not appreciate being deployed as a defense token in this fucking lame argument and posted quote i hate ted sarandos just a quick note to let you know that i would prefer if you didn't drag my name into your mess now i have to deal with even more of the hate and anger that dave chapelle's fans like to unleash on me every time dave gets 20 million dollars to process his emotionally stunted partial worldview you didn't pay me nearly enough to deal with the real world consequences of the hate speech dog whistling you refuse to acknowledge ted fuck you and your amoral algorithm cult i do shits with more backbone than you that's just a joke i definitely didn't cross a line because

you just told the world there isn't one wow damn that was good that was a good tweet was that yeah no i was a i think it was a oh yeah maybe like an IG post. Right, right, right. But the referencing of like, I like that, you know, Hannah's calling out this just tired-ass defense. Like, these things don't lead to real-world harm, okay? And having a very limited definition of what harm is. You know, as he says, this is another, this is his further, you know, defense of like this harm argument. Quote quote the strongest evidence to support this is that violence on screens has grown hugely over the last 30 years especially with first party shooter games first party and yet violent crime has fallen significantly in many countries adults can watch violence and blah blah blah blah blah without

harming others so that was like the first part you, you can still get Birth of a Nation or Triumph of the Will through their disc based rental service, just so you know. But also, like a lot of people are pointing out is like, have you seen this own documentary that's on Netflix that you put out called Disclosure, which the subheading is in this documentary, leading trans creatives and thinkers share heartfelt perspectives and analysis about Hollywood's impact on the trans community. I think that's just like your opinion, man. That's like your opinion, man, on my own platform. Right. Yeah. I was just having a conversation with a friend over dinner about this last night, who's also a comedian. It's so like comedians. A lot of them can't make the connection between like the thing they're saying and then also violence.

Like to them, there's just not the straight line at all. And it's like really fucking infuriating. Also, the people that really I would say, would you say there's like a Venn diagram of people that hated Hannah Gadsby's special and then also people that like like defend defend Chappelle? Yeah. And it's like, if you didn't think that was comedy. Right. What do you think that is? Like like and i watched the whole thing too and it was like long point point making pauses diatribes it's like what it reads like yeah it's like super hypocritical granted you know the whole thing wasn't just a screed against the lgbtq community but what it was was it didn't it

it was not a comedy special. When you look at his other specials, it's a completely different person and a different kind of performance. Yeah, it's truly just someone, as Gatsby says, it's just sort of like trying to process their limited worldview on stage for a couple of million bucks. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of people said, look, if for all the people who want to make the content doesn't cause harm nonsense, a lot of them just gestured at 13 reasons why, you know, many child development experts and psychologists criticized the show for its depiction of a teenager taking their own life. would lead to copycat incidents. And then a damning study was released, according to the Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry in March 2017, which was a month after the show debuted. There's a twenty eight point nine percent increase in suicide among Americans ages 10 to 17. And it completely was like an outlier based on statistical trends and

things like that. And obviously, again, correlation isn't causation, but it was definitely enough for Netflix to say, OK, let's reconsider something. And they just did the minimum by adding a warning card. Oh, too, too rich. Not enough people telling them to shut the fuck up, I think, is often what happens. Right. Yeah. i don't know yeah yeah it's a bummer man harm isn't just about walking up to someone and committing a violent hate crime you know what i mean and i think that's how people excuse that this isn't bad that this

doesn't arrive to that level of what the hate speech or something like that any i would say anything that is contributing to the slowing of progress is in and of itself a violent outcome for somebody because normalizing the othering of trans people through edgy comedy specials directly contributes to people not seeing the humanity of these people. Right. And yes, it's just a punchline. And I'm curious, would Chappelle defend a white comics use of minstrelsy tropes or doing blackface? Right. Because people laughed at that shit. But it's the same thing. Blackface was used to dehumanize black Americans. And at the time, people called that comedy entertainment. But the insidious part is what it does is it creates a baseline for a level of being able to perceive someone as a human who's deserving of dignity or not. And if you are fucking with that and you are trying to pump the brakes on that by saying shit like I'm team turf and all this other shit and trying to make your point about how like trying to deny someone the agency of fucking gender expression, you're directly opposed to progress to liberation for people so in that

sense you're not fucking saying anything clever you're not speaking truth to power or anything like that and if you're talking about a point you know like good comedy that's edgy and causes conversation is typically pointing out an absurdity of our society or culture right that people like damn that is an absurd thing that is going on that we're not really looking at critically at best chapelle is saying that it's absurd that trans women think they are women yeah that's it and that's only i don't that would only appear as an absurd notion to someone that wants to deny a person the agency of gender expression that's not saying anything larger about this that So that's, I'm like, I'm failing to see where you understand the, like the hegemonic dimensions of all this and where power lies in what

direction you're trying to skew the, like make a point. Right. I mean, and there is no, he's just making the same point over and over again. And it's just him gesturing at his anxiety around something that deep down he knows is wrong and fucked up and he hasn't dealt with it but like in the same way that

you know you look back at you know minstrel shows and you're like how is this comedy like it doesn't make sense now but it was because it addressed like some deep anxiety of people realizing like what they were like their worldview was incredibly fucked up i think that it's the same thing it's like i don't really even see how this is a joke but it's like basically like touching on a thing that i think culturally he like we realize is fucked up and that like he's struggling with like five levels deep in his consciousness and like can't can't process and that's why he keeps fucking coming back to it and just being wrong and strong on on that man it's just there's like almost no in between with like comedy anymore it's like people are either tripping on a banana peel or they're like trying to start a cult or

something there's like no in between like at all i miss people tripping on a banana peel yeah what happened to pratfalls huh yeah that's what or pratfalls less uh your societal analyses um your perspective as a cishet male yeah telling people who is and is not a woman right like okay it's like when joe biden was like if you don't vote for me you ain't black right oh shut the fuck up fool we got something for your ass too all i do i you know i can't stand too it's like a lot of these comics too will say things like why would you listen to us like we're comedians and it's like you keep you know positioning yourself as someone that knows what the fuck they're talking about like you're right you know like you're you're point making like that's why people are listening to you yeah and I and I think it's I I really

challenge people for people who are Dave Chappelle fans and I've had a few of them reach out to me because of our perspective on this whole incident, is to really consider what you are casually just laughing off as not harmful. Because maybe you are in a position socioeconomically, racially, or whatever to not understand that shit like that is what keeps people down, is what keeps things from progressing forward

and having a better outcome or life like when you know i think most people can look at racial stereotypes and understand that they're harmful but you have to begin to evolve your thinking a bit to understand how large this world is and how varied people's experiences and identities are and like why the fuck are you caping for somebody who's making someone feel bad? That doesn't that's not that doesn't track. And if people in the trans community are saying this is violence, this is offensive. I think I don't I don't want to have to be subjected to this. Why the fuck are other people like, no, no, they don't know what they're talking about.

Yeah, that's not your place to determine that. talking about. That's not your place to determine that. This actually brings us to a story that I've been teasing for a month now, but that we keep not getting to because I was waiting for the perfect time to bring it up. It's the story that Super Producer Dramos put in the doc about a study that shows that 2.6% of people have aphantasia, meaning they don't possess the ability to create pictures in their mind's eye. And oftentimes they don't realize this. They just think that people are being poetic when they talk about being able to envision things.

But this Vice article consists of an interview with somebody who has this. And the reason that I think it relates to what you're talking about with the Chappelle thing is they mentioned that people get really defensive and kind of aggressive when they explain that they have this. So the Vice reporter asks, have you always known the way you thought was significantly different to other people? And then the person with aphantasia says, a friend said that a friend of theirs was Greek, but had lived in England for 10 years, and they were wondering whether he thought in English or in Greek. And until that moment,

I had no idea that anyone thought in languages at all. The same goes for mental images. When people said a mental picture, I didn't realize they were being literal. I thought it was poetic. When I found out it wasn't, a bit of poetry of the world disappeared. I've only known for a few years, so it's taken some time to get used to the notion that not everyone thinks the same way. And then they talk about how people get aggro about them. And the vice report is like, why would that bother people? And they say, it strikes me that by mentioning that I don't think in pictures or in words, I'm somehow attacking their approach. The fact that there is another way makes people uncomfortable. Everyone is always asking me questions like, can't you tell

me what your dad looks like? And the reporter's like, can't you tell me what your dad looks like? And they're like, I know what my dad looks like. I know what my entire family looks like. But the only reason I could tell you what color my dad's eyes are is because I checked once when someone asked me. And, you know, I think this ties back to people's, like, inability to process the violence that trans people feel around the Dave Chappelle special. I think it ties back to even the Havana syndrome story and the fact that, like, people are so, first of all, aggressive and, like, certain, oh, they must be making it up. Or then when the people themselves are accused of not having had the actual attack get super defensive is because

we are super aggressive and counterintuitively and illogically aggressive when it comes to the idea that other human beings don't think and process the world in the same way that we do. It's like really troubling to people in a way that I just, I feel like I see it everywhere. Once I read this article, I was like, oh, that's, we're like so uncomfortable with that idea yeah yeah yeah insecurity is like directly tied to anger about things right right it's yeah obvious like you well i feel like once i started realizing that i could see it in other people too like when i see you know whatever it is i'm like oh you're incredibly insecure about something right you know that's how it comes out yeah and yeah it's just like we

kind of built a world that relies on the illusion that we have control over like all our faculties and that we all think the same and like if somebody commits a crime they have done that on purpose like thinking the same thoughts that we're thinking as we imagine them committing that crime and you know that therefore blame them for their actions and yeah there's just it's so much of the world relies on this illusion and this like misconception and then you know anytime like somebody explains that their brain doesn't work exactly the same as somebody else or you know that their experience has led them to see something completely differently than you it just causes people like to freak out yeah when you read that uh that study did it stuck with you a little bit also but you were like can i think of images i was like for a second i read it this morning i was like oh god picture

a candle i got it i got it right fuck yeah i don't know what a candle looks like yeah there's i think you know it's just the same way like with especially we saw with the uprisings last summer around you know all the police killings that were happening is that suddenly white people were caught in a moment be like what do you like it was like wait there's another way to look at this rather than being less empathetic or understanding of like how oppression works and then suddenly it's to get defensive about it and defend your because it's for many people it's hard to look at your belief system and say yo that's fucking that actually i need to throw that piece out that's actually not helping me it's actually going to hold me back and it's actually it's running counter to where the where

the rest of the world is yeah i i had very many points of evolution in my own understanding of race of gender identity and things like that and it truly took me you have to really you have to arrive at a place where you have to think a am, am I a flawed person? Or do I have things that I'm insecure about or different about me that I would hope I'm living in a world where those things don't matter, where those are not vectors to terrorize me emotionally? And can I be around people that are understanding? And if I do believe that's the world that I want to live in, then it is incumbent on me to also treat every other person in situation like that. Because if you get selective, then it's only going to, it doesn't lead to increased understanding. Buddy, dude, a hundred percent. I even thinking about like comedy, like I've been doing it for

10 years. I started in Pittsburgh. Like I didn't grow up in like the most like culturally diverse town and like going to Austin, which like a very liberal place. I remember getting there and like doing jokes and like other like a great friend of mine, Cass Barbadoro, another comedian came up to me after a show one time and was like, like, you're super funny. But that one joke is like super misogynist. And I was like, really?

I was like, I don't know if I read it that way. And she was like, like, yeah, like the laughs you you're getting on it like they're like kind of like mean laughs and dude it stuck with me so much and i remember just having a moment where i was like oh i don't want that at all right i was like i always felt like but i always felt like open to like evolving past those things yeah and thankful for the people in my life too that were just totally like hey like let's talk about it real quick and you know oh yeah thank you so much yeah yeah and that's that's i think like so at that moment you were able to imagine the world from a different perspective than your own and evolve your perspective to include that perspective and i feel like the you know a lot of these comedians who now are just like trying to start a cult are are like they get told of a different perspective and they just kind of clamp down and choose to not let that in and instead to fight against it and try to like get people to see the the world through their eyes, I guess.

Yeah. Yeah. In a very culty way that seems damaging well yeah and a lot of people are stuck on the fact that they were probably getting a lot of laughs when they were kids in the 90s by being the meanest motherfucker who was able to rephrase bullying shit in funny ways yeah because a lot of it man i used to get so many laughs like just going off on somebody's looks or like ah your, your mom, you know, like just just mean shit. But people were more like, oh, shit, he went there in a creative way.

And I was like, I'm the funniest motherfucker that ever lived. And then you realize, shit, man, I'm just really good at being mean in a way that isn't traditionally mean. And it's a way that can make people laugh because we all of us are stunted kids and not like not able to extend empathy or sympathy in a direction. And then you have to have a reckoning with that where I was like, fuck, man, like I'm not really funny. If the only thing I can do is just being like kind of mean. Yeah. Like just describe some shit about someone being different or ugly or something like that. That's not a joke.

different or ugly or something like that that's not a joke and there's a i think that's why a lot of people too who have a lot of like jokes or material that are sort of come from that philosophy of like yo i'm just teasing man i'm just cap you know just fucking poking fun man it's nothing it's comedy those are people who really go what the fuck's happening man like this is all this is like everything's completely changed it's's like, well, no, like people get older. And as people get older, we have more access to experiences and ways to process our experience to be like,

Oh, that all that shit I used to laugh at. That was actually really foul. That was actually contributing to someone else being, feeling like absolute shit about themselves. And that's not the spirit of what comedy is. Yeah. And they,

the ones who are like, I'm just joking'm just joking like what it's just a joke i'm just a comedian don't pay attention to me are the ones who when that premise is challenged they're like they get very serious about yeah suddenly white supremacy and misogyny free speech conversation yeah yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And again, if your material isn't actually pointing out the absurdity of something, and you have actually from a position of like you're morally correctly pointing out an absurd power imbalance, which is what great comedy can do. Yeah. You know, you have to ask yourself, like, what is it really saying?

Well, but I feel like to them and a lot of these people too they are pointing out that absurdity it for them it's like they are thinking critic but it's because they're so threatened yeah and they don't they don't they don't want it to change and like i i just know dude i know these fuckers like a lot like a lot of them and it's like yeah they think that they're the the ones thinking critically and we're all we're all like sheep about it and i think and what and what like you couldn't ask for a worse laboratory to extract your data from oh my god yeah being on a stage with a microphone saying something and people laugh oh how the fuck are you people who already like you and already have an investment how the fuck are you gonna move already like you and already have an investment how the

fuck are you gonna move past that no you're not no it's it's yeah the thing that makes you feel like a god you know like like yeah you're just gonna be enabled the whole time exactly those things right and that's what it's all about it was like well i'm getting positive feedback from this i'm guessing all then that's the same thing dave chapelle said at the hollywood bowl when he did premiered his documentary there he went up there and he was like oh i'm glad y'all love me and people like and he's like if this is what being canceled feels like then i fucking love it right but you are in a bro that that's that's only a couple thousand people there yeah you have a lot of other people and i think a lot of people also try and say it's like this noisy minority of

people well that may be true that maybe mathematically people that are offended by homophobia or transphobia may not be at a global majority yeah but it's not an insignificant amount of people and i think that's what's also very dismissive about the whole thing a very literal bubble that he was in like people paying to see you with no cell phone right right yeah yeah put in a bag yeah yeah it sounds everything's above 40 yeah so you you know you're on the right side when you're espousing views that vladimir putin would agree with yeah you're crushing it man yeah putin's like he was there in the audience at the hollywood yeah steve seagal they're like they cut to them real quick yeah that imbalance of power thing is so true and it's why to talk

about something we mentioned earlier why slipping on a banana peel is the best joke because it's the ultimate imbalance of power between human beings and gravity you know well put when you think about it well put yeah yeah we're all we're all just slipping on peels man we're all just sleeping on peels dude it's all about it's all about sticking the landing and getting back up oh my god you guys should teach a comedy class i like it comedy philosophy 101 well i mean because it's true you look at chapelle's early shit he was able to people be like oh these jokes are racist well he was actually able to use racism to broaden a like to bring up a larger point about the racist dynamics within the United States.

And when that and I think he's completely just I don't know, maybe that's no longer important to him. But I feel like if he for someone, again, who says like he really cares about trans people, then listen to them. Yes, listen to them and don't be dismissive. And just because you have one person's family and another trans comedian that has your back, that doesn't negate the feelings of many other people.

And if you're truly there, like any person who wants to claim they're an ally of any liberation movement for people, then you have to really be aware of this kind of shit and know what you are fighting for and fighting against and what progress looks like and what the slowing of progress looks like. Yeah. It's just weird because Chappelle's never said something that aged poorly before, like when he told us that we should give Donald Trump a chance. Dude, he pulled back on that one, what, like a couple of months later or something?

I'm hoping that that happens. I don't't think so three specials in a row now no he's so much he's really dug in money he's committed you i mean at the end of that special he did say something like he said he's done doing the jokes until you know whatever he said until i i know that we're both laughing together and it's like that's not gonna happen so you're just done doing the jokes now cool and i'm sorry what was the joke yeah yeah i'm sorry all right danny it's been such a pleasure having you on thanks boys the daily zeitgeist where can people find you and follow you uh i only have instagram now i got rid of twitter facebook all that stuff so just get me on instagram at palumbros p-a-A-L-U-M-B-R-O-S. And I post everything there.

Stuff I write, food I cook, places I'll be. So that's where to find me. Also sounds like a really dope sandwich shop. Yeah, Palumbros. Palumbros. Yeah. Palumbros, pizza, pasta, gelato, furniture. Exactly.

Hoagies. We got them all. Heroes. Grinders. pasta gelato exactly hoagies you know we got them all heroes grinders and is there a tweet or i guess a gram that you've been enjoying yeah well i i uh i haven't checked any of my friends twitter accounts in like seven months so this one is this one is from my dear friend blair sake friend of the show i know october 13th drinking bad. I do not feel good. End. That's it. She had a rough one

on her birthday. I bought us Jaeger shots because I correctly assessed that she was someone that has done a lot of Jaeger bombs. And she didn't do it. I had to do them both.

That sounds about right. Can't let that go. And then I felt invincible. Yeah. She ain't doing gargoyles on Westwood like she used to. Miles, where can people find you? What is a tweet you've been enjoying?

Find me Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Gray, and also the other pod, 420 Day Fiance, with Sophie Alexandra, where we talk 90 Day Fiance. Some tweets that I like. The first one is from Elizabeth Cabeth c mclaughlin at ec mclaughlin tweeted it's astonishing how many major unions are either striking or about to strike and how little major media is covering it huh yeah i think it's like they yeah yeah it's a little bit weird there because yeah like in New York Taxi cabs too

I think they shut down a Brooklyn Bridge on Friday Callie Joy Gray at Callie Joy Just because right now Pete Buttigieg Has been He took I guess Fucking paternity leave And the right wing machine is like Paternity leave?

What? And like all these other pundits being like I'm leave what and like you have like all these other like uh pundits being like i'm barely around and blah blah blah like really diminishing fatherhood so cali's going to wild to see conservatives talks about talk about how useless fathers are that's also very yeah that's funny you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. I'm just going to the front page of the New York Times and searching the word strike. Huh. Nothing there.

Some tweets I've been enjoying. Andrew Nadeau tweeted me. Most people don't use their middle names. Machine Kelly. It just feels dumb this way. Oh, Garfunkel tweeted, exasperated voice, Machine, you had an argument with the computer.

Oh. The same joke, but both fucking nailed it. Two back-to-back home runs. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram and hey we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes on our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the

song that we think you might enjoy miles with song are we sending people to go check this is a band called got street park g-o-t-t-s you know another uk band and they've produced stuff for like cali uchis and reggie snow a few other artists but man they are really really really great group and this track called Diego, it sounds like, again, like something that would have been sampled in like 90s hip-hop, but it's an original tune. And yeah, it's just good, good head nodding

music for your week. So check this out. Got Street Park with Diego. Alright, well, we'll send you over there to listen to that. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever to listen to that the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows that is gonna do it for us this morning but we're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending and we'll talk to y'all then bye

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