The Daily Zeitgeist - Common Zeit Effects 4/14: Trump'N'Dump, Coachella, Bernie Sanders, Cheryl Hines, White Lotus

Episode Date: April 14, 2025

In this edition of Common Zeit Effects, Miles and special guest co-host Andrew Ti discuss their respective weekends, a 'Trump'N'Dump' tariff update, other stuff Trump did that was bad, evem more bad Trump stuff, Coachella: Weekend 1 (feat. Bernie Sanders?), (another bad thing about) Trump snubbing Cheryl Hines at the UFC match, a brief rant about White Lotus season 3, and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Like you put in 20 images of Bong Joon Ho and it does the text. Like you bought that outside the magic Johnson theater. Yeah. I know. look like yeah, like you got came out of what Mickey says Mickey 17 I did wear this to Mickey 17, but I put a video and someone's like yo, I got him right here, bro To one for twenty two for thirty Hey internet, how you doing? Good morning. Good to see you. Good to hear from you. It's a you know, season 384 episode 1 of the day Look, we call this what happened to what the hell happened over the weekend? trending episode where we catch up on all the nonsense and What's the hex going on? Yeah, what the heck what the hex going on?

Look, Jack will be back soon. But hey, it's still me in the place to be with my man co-host Andrew T. Thank you, Andrew T, for joining me on this D-R-E-N-D episode of DZ. Okay, I'm done. I didn't want you to keep going. I thought we finally deposed the white man and now we rule as we see fit. Yeah, we did. We did. Only for him to return.

It's funny because every time Jack goes out of town, something cataclysmic happens. Like last time, it was the first assassination attempt on Trump and the debate. That Joe Biden debate where everyone was like, did the airplane or what film is that where everyone does a forehead slap? It's one of those Zucker movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe it's like airplane or whatever. Airplane or naked gun or some shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then this time we got Tara Fuckfest. He's got a lot to answer. He's got a lot to answer. I mean, it does feel like basically Jack takes off for his market manipulation summit and then. Every time Jack leaves, he makes $300 million in the stock market. I don't know, I just don't know.

And he never lets me in on any of these tips. But anyway, here we are telling you what's trending before we get to what the news was. We'd like to open our hearts and minds to you, Zeit Gang, let you know what's overrated and underrated in our minds. Guests first. Andrew T., what is something you think is underrated? You know what? I'm losing faith that I haven't said this already, but I'll say it again. Just completely fucking your Spotify algorithm.

Just like listen to for one day a month, just listen to some shit you would never listen to. Right. Just like, and it really mixes it up. And not that even that this is music I find like bad, it's just music I don't really listen to but the show common side effects has I don't know if you've ever

Yeah, HBO and Max whatever has for the first time. I think the only two good cops in Cinematic televised history these two cops named Campano and Harrington, who love like 70s disco, like electronica, funk-ish type stuff. And anyway, almost every one of their scenes opens with them discussing like music esoterica before they get into like their like stakeout business. Italo disco producer Brian's talking about it's it's truly wonderful. And it is it is like like it's so nicely worked into the animation there's always doing a little shoulder shimmy like every time they're

talking. Anyway someone on Spotify made a playlist of their like the time they're talking. Anyway, someone on Spotify made a playlist of their, like the music they're discussing. The shit they debate. Yeah. So this weekend I had that on repeat and, you know, it's I'll just I'll just look at this playlist now. We got like Jump the Line by Harry Belafonte. Nothing too crazy. Rasputin by Boney M. Oh, yeah.

Let's see you sexy thing by Hot, War, Edwin Starr, which also underrated just admonishing society in your ad libs. When Edwin Starr says, good God, y'all. Good God. It's really amazing. It's disgust, dude. Yeah. 100%.

Yeah. But like, I think this era of music, it's like music I like, but I don't like listen to a lot. Sure. And just like one weekend of playing this Campano and Harrington playlist really refreshed my my suggestions on Spotify. So I think in general algorithm fucking just make sure they don't know who you are and It can actually so funny like I now that I've now that I'm doing midlife crisis DJ stuff as my new hobby I have like an entire other YouTube account that I watch a bunch of DJ kind of stuff on because I'm like I don't want to poison my other algorithm that I have like Like I have an algorithm silos basically where I keep it clean. I'm like, this is just a nerd out on cooking and DJing.

And then, but the thing about the algorithm one, it is wild because there are times when I let her majesty like play something because she refuses to get Spotify. She's like, I'm fine using like the free things that are late chock full of ads and she loses her mind. It's like, I can't do this. And I'm like, why don't we just do like, I'll just add you to the couch. No, I don't need Spotify.

Just let me use yours. And it fucks my algorithm up bad. Like, and it is music I'm not really like into or want to hear because I listen to a ton of music and I like it like bringing new stuff that I like all the time. I feel like when that happens, it feels like whatever is happening with the economy right now It's like with just this one moment in time with the tariffs You can completely fuck up your algorithm for at least but solid few miles miles. Here's my pitch to you. Okay

It makes you a more active listener to like to have your algorithm fucked and even if you hate something move on from it and I genuinely think um you know you're not going to do it and you shouldn't because you have your system but I am saying for the people no no I'm I'm not saying I'm just saying I have this my interaction data scramble your data um as much as you can. Just throw in a Joe Rogan experience every like 100 podcasts. Listen that way. You got to know what they're saying. You got to know what they're saying. Not because you like it.

It truly it's it's so I genuinely find it to be because like every time like Instagram or anyone advertises to me. I take some small comfort in how wrong they are. Like they genuinely do not have this part of the audience. Do you do a thing where like you won't, cause like out of some weird like paranoia from like watching enemy of the state or like conspiracy in the nineties,

like you won't do things on the internet. Does this make sense? Like you don't want to feed an algorithm a certain thing you might be interested in because you're trying to keep some of your cards close to your chest. I probably should have. I think, I think we all, anyone who's listening to this podcast, anyone who didn't set up like a VPN account to download the MP3 onto a cold storage and listen to this on a separate device

Has already given too much to the algorithm so I mean that that's what I'm saying is like you've already put too much out Yeah, yeah, so the only way to obfuscate yourself is to flood the zone with garbage. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Because you can't like you can't take back what you've already put out there, right? Yeah, but what you can do is make them wrong about who they throw them off the scent. Yeah, everybody new challenge throw them off the scent I'm like, I'm 100% gonna be watching some weird shit about I should oh now I should heavily asterisk this with I don't know what I'm talking about That's we should heavily asterisk asterisk this entire show with that But hey people are here for the for the vibes, you know, not the facts.

It's all about vibes. We deal in vibes here. My underrated is crawfish. End of story. Really? It's the season. It's crawfish season. It's in Los Angeles. Well, no, this is when you get fresh crawfish. Because a lot of times, other times you're getting frozen crawfish. That's right. This is when it's fresh. And if you like a good crawfish. Because a lot of times, other times you're getting frozen crawfish. That's right.

This is when it's fresh. And if you like a good crawfish like I do, and our usual friend Kevin does, you know, yeah, we like to get we like to eat some mud bugs. I just keep I just realized that we were like in the height of like we're in approach, like we're in the midst of the best time for crawfish. And I just got excited. And I just I just like I think it's about it's about a communal table with a bunch of weird carcasses that you just rip through and discard you know

yeah it's a metaphor just like life yeah exactly I I find it a little frustrating eating crawfish with some folks I I mean I clearly something's wrong with me, but I have a very much like if you don't eat it my way, you're eating it wrong. OK, what's your way? Wait, what do you mean? Just like just eat the whole thing. Yeah, just like they're like, oh, you should maybe separate the tail and just like, no, no, I do. I am fully on to I have not left a shrimp shell or any portion of shrimp on a plate in Going on ten years now. I eat if it's a shell I take the outer part off, but I always eat the tail Yeah, not me dog

You eat the outer part too. I like the little I like the shrimp meat cuz then I get my crunchies from the tail You know what I mean? And then I'm definitely eating the fucking head the skull I think this fuck this was like this was like an a This was me trying to prove a point that I went too far on but like it's like watch this shit Yeah, yeah, yeah, sir. Those are raw. It's I don't know man. Something's something's wrong with me But yeah, that's the thing is I I have I become like that dickhead. That's like you have not sufficiently sucked the head Yeah, I know and I'm not I'm, I'm unsufferable.

Yeah. Yeah. In the same way. Because I was also raised like with my dad's family, like my grandfather is a, like he had a barbecue restaurant and was always smoking like that. And he would always comment on how much meat people, because obviously he's a black man from the depression. He's like, he's like, boy, you better rake that bone. He's like, there's still meat on there.

And I'm like, and then I took that with me into adulthood. Now I'm calling people out for not sufficiently raking the bone. Yeah, but we're right. Yeah, we are. Here's the thing. We're right. Yeah. We just, you just have to like pick your battles, but we're right.

And you know what? I pick every battle and which is the hard part. Every time there's a battle, I'm picking it. I know I never stand down and that's why people don't want to hang out with me anymore. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you can leave that cartilage. Hmm. There's cartilage on that bone. You think it's also like being like, I feel like having immigrant parents also like sort of contributes to that environment

where you're it's like waste not want not kind of thing. I think no, we think that part immigrant, but also because like, especially like, like we're in like media, which has like too much where we professionally and probably socially are around, I would say eight to 15 percent too many white people. So I think part of it, too, is like really needing to like make your mark and remind yourself who you are. Yeah, they're like, no, because it's funny, my mom would say shit like that growing up. She's like, she's like, eat the tail. She's like, what are you, American?

Yeah, like she was like America shaming like cuz you know, shut up Yeah, my mom for her light America shames like look at you cleaning those dishes like you American Yeah, like that kind of like leaving stuff like not cleaning stuff sufficiently. The slur was always all like It's really I mean Like immigrant kid thing is the frustration of like if you didn't want an American, why did you come here? Why, and then, but then I know it's look, you're putting all your American assimilation dreams onto me while also being at odds with that dream

at the same time and you're giving me double speak. But either way, now I'm an insufferable dinner guest. Thank you parents. Andrew, what's something you think is overrated since we're talking about food. Yes, my overrated is Actually, I will I will walk back some of the stuff All the stuff we just did is a little overrated hating on like white people versions of food I really I may have said this before I think no did I fuck man? Okay. Okay Okay I made this weekend. You've said this before, I think. Oh, did I? Fuck, man. Okay, okay, okay.

What's your example? Because I remember you saying something about like, we go to, I felt like a while back, you were saying like, we go too hard on white people's versions of stuff, and it's actually pretty good. Well, so here's what I did, is this weekend I got a little bored,

and I had chicken breasts in the house, which is, I had boneless, skinless chicken breasts in the house. What? Because, okay, two things. two things what is I made this is this is gonna blow your mind the best chicken stock recipe is chicken breast boneless skinless or otherwise you can do a little bone what chicken breast and aromatics in the instant pot is shockingly the best chicken stock I guess technically. Where are the bones? Where are the skin? What the fuck are we talking about bro? I do not know but I promise you it's so good it will blow your mind.

I'm actually fucking pissed that you're even saying this out. It goes against all of philosophically everything I thought I knew about cooking and the way I cooked I'm basically giving you the same pitch that the person who sold me on This recipe did was like I know I know it sounds it will make you mad This goes counter to literally everything you've ever learned, but I swear to God it works and it really did I made we're talking like a mirepoix kind of thing? Like you got celery, onion, carrot? I just used the veggie scraps in my freezer, like I usually save for veggie broth, but I took a boneless, skinless chicken breast,

browned it in the Instant Pot, took it out, browned my veggie scraps, put the chicken breasts on top, water, Instant Pot for 45 minutes, let it cool naturally, strained the fuck out of it. If you want, I mean, it's already pretty flavorless, but the chicken breast is if you're making like a soup, in my case, I was making matzo ball soup for a Seder style dinner, comma non-religious. But you're celebrating the occasion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I will say this. I also made a brisket. I think the Passover Seder, the traditional, like, you know, European ish Passover Seder motherfucking horseradish. There you go. So good. I love all of it. Anyway, you do a little hero set with horseradish on a piece of matzah.

I put all of it together. I'm a real, I'm a real like mash it all together. Yeah. I get, I get nasty at this eight or two anyway. So you made this. So, okay. So what do you do with the chicken now after you make them stock or the broth? So you, you can, so in this case, I shredded it, put it back into the matzo ball soup. Also put a mad duck fat instead of vegetable oil in the matzo balls. They're very dense, but very good.

Oh, so you're not even using like traditional schmaltz. You're kind of going duck fat. Well, I had duck fat for, you all don't wanna know. Anyway, the point is, so that's the chicken broth recipe, but also I had boneless skinless fucking chicken breasts in my fridge. So I was like, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to make Chinese American like chicken and broccoli. Yeah. And I fucking like velveted that shit with like baking soda and cornstarch and

like all this business. And I have to say, I was like, this is pretty good. Okay. Yeah. OK. OK. I thought if this is a repeat, I'm sorry. No, no, this isn't this is really. This is not this is not. And now I'm I'm just I don't have an instant pot. I never did. So it's not like I could make I lost one in the fire joke.

But I'm in the market for that and an air fryer because I didn't have an air, I never had an air fryer either because I'm just so like old school with the way I, I'm not old school, I just never got one. I'm not acting like a principal. I'm an unbelievable hater on air fryers and I do not own one, but I have come to understand

that they're quite good. Yeah, yeah. Well. But. Good for that. I'm a hater. As you can tell, I'm a fucking like I'm a haters professional. I bring to the table See the other so my overrated I'm just gonna go ahead since we're just contradicting ourselves with our overrated from underrated

Yeah, like you were saying fuck up your algorithm do something different My overrated is going to concerts for the genres you love only and not branching out Because I went to a fucking metal show. I saw Meshuggah and Cannibal Corpse on Wednesday. And my boy is super into metal. Like one of my old roommates who I used to work with in politics. He put me on to like a lot of metal. And I was always like, well, this is nice for me. And he's like, dude, it's he's like, if you actually like you like music,

like musicianship, he's like, listen to what they're playing and listen to how they're playing it, like, listen to the like you fuck with a good drumming. Listen to this. And I was like, hooked. I was like, damn, like this shit is fucking crazy to me. And then after the fire, he was like, hey, dude, I got his tickets. Like we can go see Meshuggah is like, you know, like I always send you tracks to listen to, but we can go see the show.

And he's like, and they don't like, this will be a good show to go to. I was like, I don't know, bro. It's not really my vibe. And then I'm like, I'm like, fuck it. I don't even know. I don't even know what I, what my vibe is anymore. Right, right, right.

So I said, yeah, let's go. Dude, it was so fucking dope to see because like just being in that completely different environment I mean, I remember going to like metal kind of ish shows like where people were moshing when I was like younger Yeah, but the way this circle pit opened up during like these two acts I was I was just like everything was very stimulating in this very interesting way and it really Just gave me a different dimension because I think it's like right? When we kind of like look at genres of music

or the fans of genres of music, you're like, ah, yeah, it's all kind of like this way or whatever. And sure, maybe visually, like the aesthetic is that, but then you go and you kind of like are talking to people and just seeing what's up. And it's like, it's just, anyway, shout out, shout out people, shout out all genres of music, except for ones where there's like

actively racist people at them. This shit was just so fun and getting out of your comfort zone, especially with music, I think is a really easy way to like give yourself a quick expansion, like travel does, you know what I mean? It feels like travel in this really weird way when you go and really kind of like find a genre you're kind of curious about,

cause don't subject yourself to music you can't stand. That's going to be just not enjoyable. But if you think, if you dabble and you're kind of curious about because don't subject yourself to music you can't stand that's gonna be just not enjoyable but yeah, if you think if you dabble and you're like, oh that kind of sounds good just go check it out It's gonna listen do it. It's alo disco plus metal is what we're saying here Yeah, I do not have the same relationship to music that you do I feel like on on a like connoisseurship level But what I have been trying to do is just like shimmy my shoulders a little bit. It's strongly inspired by this TV show and it helps a lot. Dude, shimmy. You gotta shimmy your shoulders.

You gotta let your big toes shoot up in your boot. This is, listen, the viewers are suffering because this is not a video episode. But we're just, we've been doing this. It looks like Night at the Roxbury. Yeah. Plus Middle-Age. All. Yeah. Plus middle age. All right. Yeah.

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And we are back. I always think of this tweet where it must have been a Brit who tweeted it because it said, you can't spell tariffs without FFS. For fuck's sake. Because, my God, so many 180s, 360s, 720s, 1080s. We don't know which direction we were ever oriented in when it comes to tariffs. Not we, the president. So just days after we all found out that Apple flew like five

cargo planes, aka 600 tons of iPhones to the US to avoid the tariffs, the Trump administration randomly and quietly issued an exemption to China's quote, reciprocal tariffs, but just for electronics like cell phones and computers, in other words, the country's most valuable export. And you're like, oh, okay, that's good, I think, right? The move also, I think should be noted, would also benefit big tech companies like Apple, Samsung and chip makers like Nvidia, all people who have tried to sidle up to Trump over the last year. Well, and also the people who they're like fucking for companies that

Really make up the reality of the stock market. So having them gives the like simple s&p 500 bump I wonder how many people are like telling Trump. It's, dude, Nvidia cannot crash, dude. That whole AI fucking bubble relies on a few different factors. And that's a big one. Well, I mean, he's surrounded by like Bitcoin bros. So, yeah. But so anyway, I think, yeah, we have no idea what the fuck he's thinking, because then so Howard Lutnick was on TV and he was basically suggesting iPhones. You know, we we looked at this clip where he was being like, they got to be made in the US, you know, like where they got millions of screws or people that put in tiny screws. But then he contradicted himself later, like because then automation will do all that.

And Elon's robots and you're like, is are we tiny screwing or the robots doing it for us. But also, like, these guys talk so much shit, but like, you know, considering that they're the fucking like facts don't care about your feelings, people like, what robots, dog? Those robots can't do shit. I know they're like the one that Kim K laid down with in an ad. Yeah, that's not even close to happening like they can keep talking science fiction if they want but like this is not real. I feel like Yeah, it must be cool to be like a boomer where that shit is so magical to you And you think yeah happened our because like it is said with this like gee whiz Yeah, you know on robots. Yeah, they really believe it. Yeah Yeah, maybe he's like Elon showed me a clip on his phone

of like a robot fucking doing screws. It was amazing. No, I mean, that's the thing is the country's being run by people because they were voted in by these people who can be fooled by Facebook videos. They can be fooled by another man showing them a video on their phone and accept that as reality Yeah, that's like the bar for a lot of these people then following the exemption news

Let Nick then told ABC that it was only temporary and that the same products will be subject to quote semiconductor tariffs in a quote month or two Just like so wild and was like, where the fuck are we at? Of course, this is all just pointless because these tariffs that are upending global trade and the economy turns out at this moment, or at least as of this weekend, the reporting was that these tariffs

aren't even being collected because the US Customs and Border Protection quote, an entry code in the US system for American ships to use to have their freight exempted from tariffs isn't working. So a glitch is now saying we're not even collecting fucking tariffs at ports. Well, that's the awesome thing too is like, listen, the one thing I bring to the table, I think that maybe not a lot of your guests or people in the podcast world is like, I spent my 20s being a bad computer programmer.

I literally wrote code that was like good enough to keep me employed, but was objectively bad. Right. And I know bad coders when I see it. And all this Doge shit is just a bunch of fucking software clouds who are bad at, you're not even bad at their job. What's the road? What's the road? Like what's the gateway? What's like the Pokemon evolution of a coder to end up at Doge? Like, where are these people starting? What are they even trying to like? What are they pursuing? What's their dream job? Is just to write shitty code or code is just like the means to the end. I think these guys are probably like fucking Silicon Valley like software guys because they're on their 20s. So like the road is short. The road is short. They were, you know,

probably like just like Nazis on like GitHub comment sections and are willing to do this. Like that's the thing is like their number one job requirement is willing to do this. Right, yeah, yeah. Because none of it is technical. They're like, the thing that impresses Elon more is not like, oh, this code is bug free. Because when he started at Twitter, he was like, I'll personally be reviewing the code. And it's like, no, you won't. And even if you were, good.

You're not a fucking engineer. Like, what do you know, dickhead? Like, yeah, of course. Like, so like these guys, like, but he's impressed by the Silicon Valley culture of like, oh shit, we like, we slept in our offices and we've been eating pizza for nine days straight. Like, you know, corporate pizza,

but like none of the actual like engineering or realizing that like this shit takes time. Like he thinks hacking is just like tap tapping at the thing and being like I'm in that even that I think he thinks hacks he's probably thinks hacking is just wearing really tiny sunglasses. Yeah, that's it. He's like, I'm a hacker dude. Look at these little fucking lenses. I got shout out Jamie Loftus. Cosplay. So like, like, I think I suspect look, I don't fucking know. I'm sure these guys were like good at whatever software. The one guy's called big balls. This is stupid. They're not on like working on a timeline where like it matters. They're just like, like patching shit, breaking stuff. Like if it works, it works. If not, like oops, we'll like fix it later. But the thing is, it's like, you know, these small mistakes, these days have consequences

and like the go fast break things, it's like, well, you're breaking things that are permanently broken and are like, even these marginal, like say they fix this tariff code in a couple of days, that's fucking billions of dollars. Yes, gone. Whatever. Thank God they're not, but either way, it's still affecting the economy at large. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But oh wait, just so you know, on fucking Sunday, President Brain Rot got on his fucking Fisher Price phone and decided to blast this message out, quote, there was no tariff exception these products are subject to the existing 20 fentanyl tariffs and they are just moving to a different tariff bucket okay dude i just want to know if like where is the signal chat where i can get on to find out where all the oligarchs get their heads ups on when to buy or dump stock um because this shit is so open at this point here's the thing you're liable to get added to that shit. I know. Who cares?

I think just merely saying it out loud, like with all the probably surveillance tech, like I can work the algorithms. Yeah, yeah. Donald Trump's theory, add miles to secret signal group. I know you're like, add to ballers on the stock market crew, group thread on Signal now.

All right. Then the Supreme Court kind of told Trump to bring back Kilmar Abrego-Garcia, the innocent father of three from Maryland who was taken away to El Salvador to a torture prison. So then shit got pedantic. So basically the court ruled that the Trump administration had to facilitate the return of the innocent man. Then it got pedantic as the White House then said, they only had to facilitate and not effectuate the return.

Saturday things escalated further when the administration had to go to court to let the judge know what steps were being taken to return Abrego Garcia to the United States. They basically just said, we ain't doing shit bro, you can't really do nothing about it. This is what one of the lawyers said when they were asked what steps have been taken to return this man. This is how they answered, quote, it is my understanding based on official reporting from our embassy in San Salvador that Abrego Garcia is currently being held in the Terrorism

Convignment Center in El Salvador. He is alive and secure in that facility. He is detained pursuant to the sovereign domestic authority of El Salvador. So, sorry, my honor. They are sovereign nation. We respect sovereign nations and the sovereignty of all nations, and we can't make them do anything, therefore shrug emoji. This is like dark for so many reasons.

Um, but the two that really stick out are that what is really going on with Kilmar Abrego Garcia? Is he missing? Is he alive still? What is the, like that's what, are they delaying because they don't know where he's at or what the state of him is. But, and also at the same time, cause it can be both or either,

they definitely want to probably set a precedent here that disappearing people in the country without due process and saying that once they're off US soil, ah, we can't do anything about it. They wanna sort of cross that Rubicon. And if they listen to the judge, then they sort of, they lose that tactic. I mean, the one thing that we know is President Bukele of El Salvador will do

or say whatever Trump wants and in fact on Monday he's visiting Trump for whatever reason I think maybe just to rub it in people's faces or maybe Bukele is like hey how are we gonna play this one bro like what the fuck you want me to do here but yeah very very grim. I, this plus the like terrorist business, too, though, is at like to the extent that there is a tiny shred of a silver lining here. Is that like as much power as like Trump and Trump is some wields domestically and internationally, there are pieces of international like like, you know, not El Salvador, but China doesn't have to go along with, you know, the craziness. Yeah. Like, you know, we can all die together, motherfucker.

Yeah. And so like, and you watch them like get bogged down in the details, like Trump likes making proclamations. He does not like talking about different tariff buckets or like the difference between facilitate and effects waiting. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, so like You know, obviously this is bad and worse than the first trauma But the thing that really did happen last time is he very clearly got bored with the bureaucracy. Yeah, like you know Not the damage can't be done. But that is sort of it is weird watching them sort

of get smothered by bureaucracy, like rightful bureaucracy and like not even just bureaucracy, just rules. Yeah. And they're trying to push through. I mean, that's definitely clear because they, I think they, to your point, like they knew that's what held things up a lot last time. And now they're like, well, if we're going to go full mask off, like we got to get ahead of it, but they, there's still a few roadblocks.

I hope it helps. It helps that they're dumb and it helps that like reality is not on their side. Like what are they actually going to do? They're still like, they're like, I mean, look, they are taking us with them, but they are Wile E. Coyote several paces off the edge of the cliff at this point. And they just need to keep pumping their legs and running. I know, but we're all-

Don't get it wrong, we're all following with them. I know, we're all tethered to it is the problem. And as this happens, he's also sort of intimating that they're talking about disappearing American citizens just as quickly. Yeah, they'll do that for sure. So I don't know. I mean, but yeah, to your point,

even with all the tough guy projection that they're doing, they like behind the scenes, they were begging China to just ask for a call with Trump, because clearly, they're the boss over here in the White House is so seen out. They're like, bro, he's not gonna, the only way he'll talk is if he thinks they came to the table. And like, yeah, he they have, we have to figure out a way and they begged and they're like, dude, we're not calling Trump. We're not asking for a call. You fucking serious? Get fucked. Cool. It's also just in the last bit of Trump news, and I swear this is it, maybe not. He got his annual, my doctor is a liar note this year, AKA his physical exam.

I just, this, this god fuck it. I don't even want to fuck it It's fucking stupid the guy the doctor is lying and acting like his his frequent victories in golf has helped keep his well Contribute significantly to his well-being Listen, but it's like we it's good that it's a lie because like who cares like this motherfucker is a decrepit sad old man and yes we are all going down with him don't get me wrong but yeah it's like like this is just some some continual like sad fucking like weird propaganda that like yeah, it doesn't fool anyone right? No one is convinced by this. No except for his most yeah most unwell followers

What could possibly be said in here that would? Change like like, you know, it could not make those people more enthusiastic about Trump Like they're at rapidly diminishing returns on Trump enthusiasm. Especially like this last week with the amount of retirees that were MAGA retirees who were like, ah, I had money that I know I was gonna live off of, but that's, I don't know.

I mean, hopefully this leads to some kind of radicalizing event for people, fully radicalizing but at least I mean, they're pretty radical. Yeah. Yeah, we'd have to get pretty radical here Shout out the square wood symbol. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about Coachella Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey. Do you remember what you said the first night I came over here? How goes lower? From Blumhouse TV, iHeart Podcasts, and Ember 20

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back.ella weekend one aka when the traffic dies down just a little bit. Just a little bit. Gorgeous. Did you do any long drives and go, oh, that's right. It's Coachella. It was like deep into Saturday. Right. Fucking old, obviously.

But like, I truly was like, what the fuck is happening? And someone on a group chat was like, well it's Coachella and I was like, oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's when the city finally farts and lets out the bad shit. Yeah, yeah. Go down to Indio and let us, let us the gut microbes replenish.

But yeah, apparently it was a rocky start there. Like I saw videos of people in lines to do the car camping the night before the festival started. 12 hour lines. People were like doxxing like line cutters. Like people who were like, yeah, like getting in the lane and then just cutting in line cutting. People were like, get this motherfucker. There were so many people doxxing these line-cutter people and I get it when you're in a line that's fucking 12 hours and some dick just wants to sneak in when you're not paying attention it's truly like

pissing off however many hundreds of people that you're gonna be in a confined camp seems unwise I feel like, especially if you're car camping, because look, bro, people will do some dumb shit, like let the air out of your tires when you're at the festival. Like I've seen I've kept a coach. I believe dumb shit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Big Catherine Hahn wink.

But anyway, there were no porta potties around. Some people said it was worse than Fire Festival. And come on now, at least there an actual festival happened. So let's, let's not get too. Also a hundred percent Coachella 20, 25 attendees and fire festival attendees are probably depressing amount of overlap. Oh yeah. It's one circle. It's one circle. It's not a diagram. It's a circle.

Was there any explanation on how it's possible it got got worse like how could this thing that there's I actually do not understand logistically how this could not be a well-oiled Machine at this point like how could it get worse? How could logistics get worse, but I feel like every year People have been like even last year Yeah, people have been we're complaining. It's probably just the lack of like real, maybe I'd imagine like anything, lack of investment in the infrastructure and like human infrastructure to do this. Otherwise, I really don't know.

Hey, if you were there, let us know. But it sounds like it was all fucked up. The campground should have at this point Fucking because that's the same place where they do like stagecoach and all this other shit Like it should have like Disneyland level like infrastructure. Yeah. Yeah, like why what else is it gonna be ever? Yeah, I think that's like I don't know It's a making operation at this point But look nobody had to suck dick for Evian

like at fire festival or at least, you know, offer to do that. But they still got to see people like Green Day and Lady Gaga and also an 83 year old man fashioning a kayak out of wood. Oh, I mean, denouncing fascism. Yes, Bernie Sanders made a surprise appearance at Coachella introducing Clara, the artist, and warning the crowd,

the future of what happens to America is dependent upon your generation. And when he brought up Trump, everyone booed. And that was Coachella. I don't know how many of those people in the audience completely absorbed the message because I feel like maybe the rally you were at earlier this weekend in LA with AOC that had almost 40,000 people at it,

those people were probably listening to every word. These people that were going, they were probably so fucked up on Molly that they were wondering why there was no more music playing while they were peaking. I mean, ready? Oh the fact that like, again, the Coachella 2025 crowd is probably comprised of a depressingly high amount of the famous, you know, mega Gen Z. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

And like the type of influencers who are just like all in on crypto and whatever. So anyway, I don't know, people seem to boo at the right time. So I guess we can take that as a positive, but also, you know, like, fuck it, get in front of as many people, even if they're not listening, let them know. Shit's fucked y'all. And like, I mean, maybe it is a good message, like, hey, I hate to fucking ruin Coachella for you guys, but there's some serious shit. If you want to chella it up, you know, in the foreseeable future, maybe or not, I don't

know. Just, I don't know. I mean, listen, all of my political instincts. Well, all of my political judgments have always been correct, but my political instincts have always been incorrect. Right, right. Exactly. So I always know who the Nazis are. I just don't know what to do about them. political judgments have always been correct, but my political instincts have always been incorrect. Right, exactly. So I always know who the Nazis are.

I just don't know what to do about them. I just don't know how to talk to them. Talk to the aspiring ones. So then while this was happening, he made a huge speech, like the New York Post said, they're like, oh, they said his remarks were quote, a ranting speech.

But then they were like, oh, they said his remarks were quote, a ranting speech. But then they were like Trump, though, thrills crowds at the UFC fight in Florida. Yeah. There was an interesting moment here. He brought Marco Rubio, R.F.K. Jr. and a man who is always in constant shock. Cash Patel, along with Ted Cruz, as like his entourage. I think the the one notable moment that I think people may have saw over the weekend was he was going and like greeting some of the cabinet members and like said, what's up to like RFK Junior, but then snubbed Cheryl Hines totally.

Yeah, this was I'm just trying to like frame by frame this. He gives him a hug. Just what? And Cheryl Hines does the Hollywood Hollywood like what the fuck? Yeah I mean she tried she said oh hi, huh? Oh Maybe not he did that shit. He looked at her and said nah I'm cool on this shit a lot of people put curb the curb yeah over that we haven't needed a season 19 of curb No Cheryl Cheryl Cheryl, Cheryl.

Look what you did. You thought you could play it both sides. You thought you could say a little skincare and also be like, I disagree with my husband, Mr. Brain Worms, and then try and shake the president's hand. Oh, yeah. Nobody fucking with you. You're just, sorry, Cheryl. And in this case, just like when you and Larry got divorced in the show, sorry, Miss Cheryl, we're going with Mr. Larry. Yeah. Sorry, Cheryl. And in this case, just like when you and Larry got divorced in the show.

Sorry, Miss Cheryl, we're going with Mr. Larry. Yeah. You know, we're going with Mr. Larry. Um, my tiny contribution to this is the tag that the the pro-Hitler UFC fighter, Bryce Mitchell, did get choked out at this. Well, somebody caught him talking trash about walking out of anger management early because whoever he fusses Oh, you're a tough guy, huh? Put his ass to SLEEP sleep

Yeah, you love to see it I do want to say not just pro Hitler in the way that I you know will casually call people fascist This guy actually has is on record talk about how much he likes it. Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah big time big time big time. Brian the editor asked why do we assume Cheryl Hines is liberal because she talks she's always couched her like love of RFK because they're like you're you're you you're giving liberal you show up at these places and espouse these things but your husband is completely antithetical to it. And she was doing this whole thing over the summer. She's like, while I disagree with my husband's views, or while I disagree with blah, blah, blah, she's just doing the writing the needle thing.

I mean, yeah, to your point, she probably is not, and for the optics tries to do it, but either way she wants to present as liberal. She's like liberal in the sense that she's like a contemporary American Democrat, which means she's like sort of center right as far as like most economic things go, most like governance things go, and is a little more distasteful about homophobia than most Republicans. Yeah, exactly.

She's, okay, sorry to put it in this way, She's one of those like like liberals who's, quote, as long as my money's right, I don't really care. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's a Santa Monica liberal. Right. And which makes sense. A Republican. If you're a conservative, if you're judging on Earth, a Santa Monica liberal who hates unhoused people and is anti-vax. Yeah. It's basically what that is.

When you describe that in like a global political framework, that's a conservative. In America, it happens that that's on the liberal side of the 50-50 media. And again, if you just want to hear Bryce Mitchell, this is what he was saying in January. Just again, like you were saying, Andrew, not like he's dabbles in it. He's out here full-throat endorsing Hitler Hitler hell and the Nazis I

Really don't think that he was because I honestly think that Hitler was a good guy based upon my own research not my public Education indoctrination. I really do think before Hitler got on meth. He was a guy to go fishing with you heard it here folks Hey, you know what sucks, though? Bryce, Bryce, man, I get that. How many homies do we know? He said, man, before he got on meth, he was somebody we could go fishing with. True. The next thing you know, we're out here trying to ask me to go to a party. He pulls up to a construction site, asking me how much fucking copper wiring

can I pull out with my bare hands? No, we're not doing that. Blaming, blaming meth meth or or like, yeah. How much fucking copper wiring can I pull out with my bare hands? No, we're not doing that blame blaming math Math or like yeah for for the actions of Adolf Hitler is really I mean without without getting too into it Every one of those motherfuckers and everyone until somewhere around Jimmy Carter was on Let's not blame the meth, you know what I mean, that's a messy out meth got shit done. Yeah Hey honest, but based on my own research, oh my god you looked at a fucking meme Yeah, boy boy howdy

And then finally, did you see I guess I should ask you before I hit the shirt, did you see the SNL White Lotus, White POTUS sketch? I'm so, I missed it. I usually, you weren't recording during my catching up on SNL. No, and look, people know, people know me. I miss this shit too. This is the problem.

I was gonna watch the sketch, but I'm dragging my carcass through watching this season of White Lotus, because it's so uninteresting to me that part of me wanted to avoid it in case there's spoilers. And then I was just like, then when I saw Amy Lou Wood post how she was like, man, bro, this shit was trash, bro.

They're just trying to fucking make fun of me in the wrong ways. I was like, oh, nevermind, maybe, whatever. I're just trying to fucking make fun of me like in the wrong ways. I was like, oh, nevermind. Maybe. Whatever. I don't need to combine the two things that are giving me no pleasure right now. White Lotus and the tariffs in one sketch. Never.

I'll pass. I am going to pick my words about White Lotus, but I just I wish White Lotus had more, a more diverse writers room, which is by the way to say any writers room, but a more diverse writers room. Is it just Mike White all the time? Is this him? I don't know about this season, but I believe it mostly has. Yeah, I mean, the way he lost the way this thing has just you can see it lose momentum

over the seasons. You're like, season one, you're like, okay, we got a little commentary now, we talking about Americans from the mainland coming to Hawaii, maybe there's some tension there. Then it felt like Mike White's like, ah, that's kind of too much thinking. What about Italy?

Yeah, I just, again, I think this is a show that like really, really, really could benefit from more viewpoints. Yeah. Because I'll just say season one of white Lotus, my actual favorite characters, and to me, the characters that would matter the most had their storylines concluded off camera, which is the two native employees. Number one, the lady who shows up on her due date in the pilot.

Yes. Here that she gave birth. And then the employee dude who was like part of the like heist. I was like, these two are the people. These are the people the story is about. Exactly. In my opinion, they're like, well, what about the girls who talk like sort of Gen Z podcast brain people who like Mike

White was like told Yeah, what's her face? Sweeney Sweeney Sweeney to like listen to Red Scare to like get the vibes down of like what he wanted And then like I'm interesting part is all this other tension around the foot. I just wish there was there's so much There's so much more there's so much more that I wish could be in this. I will say if we're going to pitch SNL, I believe it was from two weeks ago. Ego Wodum did a shockingly long and amazing just stand up routine during weekend update that was just just her doing an impression of like a you know a stand-up comedian in all the ways that that can mean oh okay it's so i mean speaking of snl you

know there's gonna be the like uk spin-off now oh no yeah did this? Oh, I did not that's gonna launch next year. So it's like Lorne Michaels And it's like Aisling be has been yeah tipped to be in it I don't know. I will see I'll just I'll let me just say I think I've been on the show enough that I may have already Suggested this also as a thing to enjoy, but I believe they did one season of Law and Order UK and It is in my mind one of the it's it's one of the funniest cop Procedurals I personally have ever seen as someone who doesn't watch a ton of British cop procedurals, which I know is a very funny thing But to me it's so funny because in all the British ways, the cops don't have guns and the lawyers have to wear wigs.

And that is so good. I know they're like arguing like, hold on, let me put my fucking little barrister cap on with my curly white hairs. It's just, it's just the long court segment. Cause the like structure of it is the same as law and order America, but it's just the things that make the British legal system different are so funny to me Uh, yeah, I love seeing Like and I just love the two how like ignorant I I just remember seeing it every time like why do they gotta wear the wig?

And then part of it. I think that's why maybe it's better like you gotta like can you be a shitty lawyer? And fuck around in court and be like a sleazy lawyer. I'm sure, hey, UK's I can let me know. Like, it must be so funny to see a dude be a scumbag barrister like in court, like an ambulance chaser type lawyer, but doing it with your little barrister cap, like little barrister wig on. Oh, I mean, I look at obviously though, it is like just a reminder that this system is made for white men. But in law and order UK, the thing that was to me, the funniest is the whatever their version of the ADA is. So in Law and Order America casting, it is almost always a very attractive woman. And in Law and Order UK, I believe

if I recall correctly, I'm not going to look it up, it was a Nigerian British actress. So when she was wearing the barrister's wig, it's just so insane to me. I know. That's when I see the barristers of color and I'm like, well, get them. Yeah, you should be able to at least get color and texture appropriate. Does everybody look like they're about to fucking pull up to George Washington and fucking pistol duel? Like, why?

Why does it? I mean, it's, it's like so weird because it's like, it is just like institutionalized white supremacy, but also it looks insane. Yeah, right. Oh, bearers, bearers, you give us plenty of laughs. Lories. Bearers. That's it.

Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm curious what a UK, like, I wonder who the writing is, what the writing is going to be like, because there's, I mean, I like like English comedies, like UK comedies. I'm definitely into it. So I wonder if they're gonna do the thing where they're like, we just need to do you SNL, but with accents. Yeah. And keep the same style of humor, or does it have that British sensibility, that minimalism? My wish, of course, is that like the American SNL, it will be made by unbelievably talented people, but every now and again have a bizarre right wing viewpoint that is very clearly put in by the producers. Yeah, some weird like,

Brexit wasn't so bad, was it? Kind of sketch. I guess compared to what's happening over here, that's what I feel like people I know in the UK are like. You know what? We talked a lot of shit about Brexit and look what we did. And we ripped off our own nose in front of everyone. What a time, what a time. All right, y'all, well, that's gonna wrap it up for what we were covering in terms of what trended over the weekend, bits of ups and downs for everybody.

But yeah, Andrew T, thank you so much for joining me. We are gonna be back tomorrow with a brand new episode, a whole episode. You're gonna love it. And we'll be back to doing all the usual things that we do, baby. And guess what? We will have the return of Jack this week

and I will hold him responsible for the, you know, escalating costs of global trade. Let me hold $18.5 million real quick. Yeah, that's specific. 18.5? Give me 18.5 mil. Just let me hold it18.5 million real quick. Yeah, that's specific. Give me 18.5 mil. Just let me hold it for like two weeks. Just 18.5. Jack, you're going to invest that?

You got to invest. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. All right. Don't worry, bro. Here, I'll let you know. I'll send you some screenshots from the Signal chat I'm in. I got added to, apparently.

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