The Daily Zeitgeist - Conspiracy Theory Colonization? The Newest Copaganda Campaign 1.28.22

Episode Date: January 28, 2022

In episode 1073, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Caitlin Gill to discuss Is the second colonization of the Americas going to be an anti-vaxx one?, The Next Great Hype In The MSM Genre Of “We N...eed To Fund The Police Again”, Everybody Misses Blockbuster Video, Apparently and more! Is the second colonization of the Americas going to be an anti-vaxx one? The Next Great Hype In The MSM Genre Of “We Need To Fund The Police Again” Mental Health Experts Will Respond To Some Emergency Calls Instead Of Police As Part Of New Far North Side Program A Barber's Viral Pandemic Project: Turning His Basement Into a Video Store Georgia man creates 1980s era video store in basement This St. John's movie buff built a video store in his basement as his feature presentation World’s last Blockbuster more popular after Netflix show ‘Blockbuster’ Comedy Starring Randall Park a Go at Netflix A New DAO Wants To Buy Blockbuster And It Has One Key Supporter Get Caitlin's T-Shirts Here: https://www.guaranteeshirts.com/Follow: @RobotCaitlin @CaitlinIsTallListen: The Smoke by The Smile Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
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Starting point is 00:02:25 It's National Big Wig Day. It's National Kazoo Day and Data Privacy Day. I think that one's probably a little more important. I like a big wig every once in a while. Now, okay, you think it's putting on a big wig or being like, yo, check out this big wig. It made me think of your blonde wig. Oh, yeah. That's one of my favorite big wigs in the
Starting point is 00:02:46 in the business yeah yeah i call that my confidence cap my blonde wig yeah it helps me not get pulled over at night i'll put that shit on i'm good money yeah although have you ever been pulled over and the guy's like uh looking for your number or whatever? He's like, hey there. I'm like, yo. Or he's like, oh my God, I'm sorry, sir. I didn't realize you were a blue-blooded American with blonde hair. I'm like, thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I will be on my way, officer. All right. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack O'Brien, podcaster. Are you as choo as they say you are? That is an old one from Stuart Thomas back in the a.k.a. archives. Shout out to you. Yes, I'm going back to the chowg AKAs because now I'm just saying it's a good opportunity for anybody who wants to
Starting point is 00:03:50 get an AKA in because you're in the mood. And things have been slow on Twitter. Also, I don't check Discord. So if you posted an AKA on Discord, I did not see it. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined by my co-host mr miles gray okay well
Starting point is 00:04:11 me no converse with the apes zycoin all my tokens non-fungible tokens zycoin i just want the paper Zykoin All my crypto flavor Zykoin, Zykoin, Zykoin, Zykoin Okay, thank you to JB Given On the Discord for that wonderful Schoolboy Q themed NFT, aka You know, I love Schoolboy Q He's probably, you know, low-key
Starting point is 00:04:40 He's one of my favorites at TV I mean, I love him too, but Schoolboy Q Talks to me as well too, but Schoolboy Q talks to me as well. Shout out to Schoolboy Q. Has he dropped anything in a while? That album is so fucking good. It's been a minute. Blank Face? Yep, Blank Face. Alright, well Miles, we are thrilled to be
Starting point is 00:04:56 joined in our third seat by a hilarious stand-up comedian, comedy writer, actor, and fashion icon whose shirts are available at GuaranteeShirts.com. Including 420 Day Fiancé March. Yeah, yeah. It's one of our favorite all-time TDZ guests.
Starting point is 00:05:11 One of your favorite all-time TDZ guests. The brilliant, the talented, the raw, the major, Caitlin Gale! Ah! Welcome to the skate park. I'm old. I might break bones. It's me, Caitlin Gale. Your favorite roller skating grandma. It's me, Skatlin' Guilf. Your favorite roller skating grandma.
Starting point is 00:05:28 What's new, Skatlin'? What's new is everything. I have, yeah, life is very different. Every time we speak, there are changes. You know, life, the river of time, it flows forward. And we all flow with the river. But boy, yeah, when we check in, it's like different locale, different scene. But yeah, I'm in my new house.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I have a new house in my bizarre desert compound. Whoa. Yep. Yep. Oh, we're going to talk about compounds today. Oh, yeah. I'm compounded. I'm fully ready.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Yeah. If you hear some booms, it's because I'm Marine base adjacent. So if you want an indicator as to the threat level in terms of our global situation, they're dropping stuff for fun out in the desert again. Oh but yeah that's where i'm things are great i've my hair remodeling stuff i can do miter cuts now i'm a true i yeah what's a miter cut i'm laying baseboards in our home and uh to achieve a seamless look at corners and to merge pieces when they are not long enough. Wow. 45 degree angle on the miters,
Starting point is 00:06:29 fit them together. I'm, I'm asleep. Uh, I've just put myself to sleep, but I can do it. I can functionally do it. And we were both acting like we knew,
Starting point is 00:06:38 cause we have no like tangible works. He was like, Oh yeah, you got it. The 45. Yeah. I just didn't know how you did your miter cuts. Who would he is? Which part, you got it at the 45. The miter, yeah. I just didn't know how you did your miter cuts. The pen is miter.
Starting point is 00:06:46 You know, then the solid, yeah. Is that Jessica Fletcher behind you holding a handgun? Oh, it is, yes. That's a good old JB. So Caitlin has a background of Jessica Fletcher from Murder, She Wrote.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I didn't know, is there an episode where she pulls? She's squeezing off that 38. She holds that thing on someone? Yeah, you know, I'm kind of deep in season one right now. I feel like this particular still is from a credit sequence, but I think it's later on in the series when she's like teaching a class and for effect
Starting point is 00:07:17 pulls out a gun as if she was, and then it bangs. It just has the bang coming out, the little flag that says bang. Oh yeah, Joker style. I feel like it's barely visible in my zoom. Maybe if I rotate my, the little flag that says bang. Oh, yeah. Joker style. I feel like it's fairly visible in my zoom. Maybe if I rotate my. Oh, God, everything's. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Oh, there it is. Oh, there it is. I see the bang. Joker style bang. For everyone listening. But it will tease you into looking up Jessica Fletcher with a gun that says bang. And it's worth it. It'll make your day.
Starting point is 00:07:40 It's a pretty delightful. Jessica Fletcher, the original Joker, if you ask me, first of all, mass murder, no doubt. Yeah. She lives in a town that has the highest per capita murder rate in the history of towns.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I think. Yeah. Yeah. That was one of the first articles I wrote. I was talking about the most dangerous fictional towns to live in. And Cabot Cove topped the list. I'm not surprised. But yeah, I mean, there's one common factor to all these crimes, and it's that she's around.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Right. She's like, oh, somebody better investigate. It's like, do you ever think that she's marking these people and then trying to clean up her steps? Or being like, I'm going to look into this. that she's marking these people and then trying to clean up her steps or being like i'm gonna look into this the clues that are left behind are like are like i left my hat at the scene of the crime level uh so it's like i mean either the this is just geographically the like happens to be the worst criminals uh the worst murderers to ever do it, or she's bad at framing people. Well, so part of the murder she wrote situation
Starting point is 00:08:50 is that there's almost a confession at the end of the episode. So like, you're not supposed to believe she's the killer because we almost hear from the killer's perspective what they did and why they did it. And I just finished watching one because I just listen to television while I'm working. So I just have listened to a recent episode
Starting point is 00:09:05 in which a bus driver killed a man twice to hide the fact that he killed him the first time. So we got two confession scenes. And I'm so sorry for spoiling this 40-year-old television show, but that is the outcome. It was Ben Gibbons, the bus driver. That's who did it. But yeah, boy, when you come around to a second confession scene
Starting point is 00:09:23 that Jessica Fletcher has teased out of someone by hook and by crook, it is, man, what a formula. You know? What a show. Don't let me talk about it. I will keep talking. You have to, most people have to physically restrain me from continuing to discuss murder. She wrote some lies that we move forward.
Starting point is 00:09:39 And Jessica Fletcher, in her own way, like the Joker, they both proved the pen is miter. The pen is miter. The pen is miter. Oh, yeah. In many ways. She'll catch you at a 45-degree angle, no doubt. Yeah, yeah. All right, Caitlin, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we are going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:10:00 We might be seeing a second wave of colonization of the Americas happening from anti-vax people and like right wing white supremacists and Nazis being. We're going to look at how it went in the past for them. Hopefully they're not listening. Or maybe, hopefully they are. I don't know. It would be funny to see them fuck themselves up in new creative ways. But probably not good for the locations that they're going to. No. We're going to talk about the great train robbery story that the LAPD is trying to get the mainstream media to pick up.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And not just trying, successfully. Successfully. Getting them hook, line, and sinker. So we'll talk about why that's bullshit. We'll talk about Blockbuster Video. All of that. Plenty more. But before we get to it, Caitlin, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?
Starting point is 00:11:05 I looked up the history of the Husky brand of tools with sincere interests and read the Wikipedia with and went like enough that I learned a lot about myself. Yeah. As I hinted home remodel. Oh, so I didn't realize that it was an exclusively Home Depot brand. I guess I didn't notice that as I am a patron of other hardware stores. I just hadn't found my Husky.
Starting point is 00:11:29 It was one of those things where I'm so successfully drawn to the item that it's like, why is this marketing working successfully on my brain? What is it about this line of tools? I also buy Ryobi tools, which are like, are you a beginnerobi tools, which are like,
Starting point is 00:11:48 are you a beginner? Like, do you not have tools? There's just one step above the Fisher price tool set. It's a Fisher price then, then the Ikea drill, then the Ryobi one. And I'm not coming for them. They work. I've gotten my miter cuts done, but Husky is, I just always. Kirkland brand tools for Home Depot? Sort of, for Home Depot, yeah. And they've been bought and sold around by other companies, etc. But now they are exclusively a Home Depot product.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And the thing that got me that I had to laugh at myself out loud was learning that there is a higher tier of Husky called Husky Pro. And just being like, oh, where do you find? Whoa. What are the quality? Can you list out, perhaps compare the products side by side in some kind of, yeah, just, it's something I did before I realized what I was doing and then was all the way through it and was just like, did I just look up Husky brand? Did I really just learn that HDX brand of tools and supplies is also a Home Depot exclusive, but does not have a lifetime warranty as Husky Brain, did I really just learn that HDX, Brand of Tools and Supplies, is also a Home Depot
Starting point is 00:12:45 exclusive, but does not have a lifetime warranty, as Husky Tools do? Right, right, right. I just got a bunch of clamps, Caitlin, because my three-year-old broke one of our doors, like a cabinet door. Sorry. It was just hanging on it. Just split it right down the middle.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I was able to glue it back together with the power of clamps, and I felt very accomplished. Yeah. That's a satisfying repair. It was very satisfying repair. The YouTube video I learned it from said that it's now stronger than it was before the repair, before he broke it. So now your three-year-old can swing off it willy-nilly. Yeah. Yeah. So now we're just using it as like a playground but yeah and then uh tell me what you think of this returning the tool after you've done the job wow oh bold move i mean i get attached to you do it's something my wife is trying to get me to do because she's like you're never gonna do this again like you know they do in certain communities have tool libraries i mean that is you should look up a tool library
Starting point is 00:13:50 because that's that's a cool thing you can do i know um like some people at berkeley that they're like oh i gotta go by the tool library i'm like the fuck and it's like yeah you can check out a fucking tool because i know you're gonna need need that miter again, family. Maybe not. You know who doesn't want you to know about that tool library? Home Depot. Home Depot and Husky. Yeah. I mean, Home Depot is a terrible company.
Starting point is 00:14:14 I am just trapped in their services. Right. It has been, you know, there's not a lot of, you just do what you, what can I. What you can out in the desert. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. And look, if you're indirectly funding Donald Trump and other conservatives,
Starting point is 00:14:26 then you, you know, what a shot. I'm doing that every literally. How can I not? Is there's not as every little piece of paper that is money leaves my hands. It goes in the,
Starting point is 00:14:35 but I can't somehow you're like, damn it. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, exactly. So yeah. What,
Starting point is 00:14:43 what can be done, but at least I try to look really gay when i go to home depot i really try to get it up i'll just like i try to make the overalls mean something else i just really impressively like can i butch out this hair harder oh is this car hurt yes it is sir we are wearing the same sweatshirt really get into it and i'm paint stained i look like i work like they're torn, they're snagged. They do look like garments that have been worked in.
Starting point is 00:15:10 They are sufficiently dirty, which is another measure of pride. But I'm not alone in this move. The small-town strut of the Gay Through Home Depot is a, you know, and you come with whatever flair you got. I really appreciate it as we pass one another and give the silent nod.
Starting point is 00:15:26 As we say nothing aloud. As it might rouse the anger of those around us. We just acknowledge what we have done. And then move on. There it is. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated? Greeting cards that do too much.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Why are they singing? Why are they lighting up? Why are they so busy? Oh, like ones with electronics with so much electronic it's over what like i so this is me being old all of this is me being old i'm just old yeah no and i have a you know greeting card served the purpose of like oh that was sweet and then you put it away for a very long time and then maybe later in your life when you are moving or cleaning you get that moment again of like oh remember when that was sweet and then you put
Starting point is 00:16:02 it away again and then maybe you get that opportunity one more time down the road the existence on the mantle is perhaps a short-lived or whatever the mantle equivalent is in your life is that be at the fridge be at a counter the display of a card is a joyful occasion until in the middle of the night it just screams at you right because it has been knocked over, delicately blown by the gentle wind of a fan. I don't need one more thing that lights. I just, every electronic object in my life is like, did you want me to glow at night?
Starting point is 00:16:33 And it's like, I absolutely did not. I want to be able to turn you off entirely in a way that does not mean you glow at me. And it's like, well, I'm plugged in. So I'm glowing.
Starting point is 00:16:39 And it's like, can I not? You open it and lasers. Yes. Yeah. Everywhere. My eyes. I definitely identify with the, with the dying card thing because like i get sentimental so i'll keep cards and things like that and when
Starting point is 00:16:53 i moved like from a spot i had this like someone got me like a fucking pokemon card that had a fucking like voice box thing to it and i forgot about it for like a year until it was like dying so it just sounded like and i was like what celebrate yeah like but coming from like where i was storing shit and deep in a box for a second i was like no no what is this what is this no no no i actually figured i'm like wait no it has to be that card and And I had that same thing. Like, why do we do this? It's so many of them. It was, it didn't, it used to be like top row. That was the $7 card. You were spending a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:17:31 This was a special, this was a 10 year old's birthday. This was a big deal card. Right. But now it's like three rows of just like, I scream at you when you open it to me and then something punches you in the face. And I'm like, I'm actually cool on all of that. I need none of that.
Starting point is 00:17:44 And this is so specific, but the box of cards that you have that is it's just car all the cards are card shaped and they all fit together as cards so it might be a little taller maybe a little longer or whatever but in general they lay flat with another the introduction of an electronic component it's just like well now everybody's well it's like the dvd cases that aren't just dvd cases so they stick out in your shelf yeah that we all used to have that nobody has the simpsons ones were so annoying the simpsons there were shapes they were very cool but it was annoying and now they're stored all wonky like you can't yeah just make greeting cards do less that's although that was smart because they would get separated from the other
Starting point is 00:18:24 ones and now i've thrown away all my other dvds but my simpsons ones are still like just scattered around the house in various pieces i have like a big lebowski dvd that's in a bowling ball and i'm like how the fuck am i supposed to put this on what am i meant to do bookend and i'm exactly who's like oh i want that gets it and then brings it home and it's like well now what and i'm like bowling ball i had no contingency plan for this what what is the like that's got to be i wonder how much of a revenue stream that is for like sly and the family stone and other like the greeting card revenue like is hallmark a big spender on like
Starting point is 00:19:08 getting those rights that's like big greeting card and big record company which are probably both unilever like there's no right yeah i don't think artists are getting that's like lower than spotify level checks yeah yeah what is something you think is underrated so again i'm old and i've themed all these around the fact that we are all relentlessly flowing through the river of time. I compression wear of all sorts. I am wrapped in something that is meant to improve a joint or do some task for fingers or hands or wrists or knees or ankles or whatever at all times. And they are underrated and they should become fashion why am i forced to choose weird black or gray like let's make my knee sleeve look sharp i'm saying give me some style let's put a
Starting point is 00:19:51 little panache into the sleeve let's just embrace that everyone's knees would feel better should they be gently compressed right let's get on the bandwagon early why are we waiting until stairs hurt like get on board before let's make it a trip like get it trending i mean we did it with leg warmer think of the trends that we as society have achieved we did the low rise gene with a thong on purpose we did that in the same time period we did that weird camisole under t-shirts for three layers game i'm only speaking of women's fashion i believe just in this time every man was wearing a 3xl shirt for no reason at all you poor fellows were swimming why were you swimming trucker has happened this was the organic trends that have just to hide my bony arms well yeah but i mean now you can embrace
Starting point is 00:20:34 your bony arm with a t-shirt yeah we have made so many trends occur out of out of nothing let's make it open for these let's give these joints a moment let's shine i feel like you're on the brink of like a new beats by dre product you know right you're like why the fuck didn't i every mother no one has good knees right after a certain point and now let's just start hooking people up yeah exactly sexy knee compression by Gilf, you know, whatever that is. I can see it. I don't know. I can see like, yeah, just a way for it to work.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Cause I think everybody's stuck with the same, like, like black on the outside, Royal blue on the inside or like black on the outside, crimson red on the inside compression shit or yellow. And you're like, come on, why can't the outside have a Paisley pattern? You know, like for all the crips with knee problems give me a tartan let's see what we got i mean i'm just saying there's an untapped potential there to perhaps visibly velcro like just the most visible like yeah it's like yeah this even if there's no velcro we want to make it look like it's put together with velcro yeah yeah we can'tcro, we want to make it look like it's put together with Velcro.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Yeah. Yeah. We can't. I don't want to push this to like, you know, this is a form versus function conversation. Like, sure, if yours needs Velcro, I'm just saying there's a designer out there that can make that fabulous. Or some kind of influencer that can wear an extra chunky knee brace and just be like, it looks good. And the whole world will be like, it looks good. And the whole world will be like, it looks good! You just get athletes to do it
Starting point is 00:22:09 because they already wear the shit. They do. I feel like I am wearing an NBA players wardrobe, but for totally different reasons. I mean, basketball shorts through time have been not played basketball in. This is not a new tradition. But yeah, just like basketball players off the court,
Starting point is 00:22:26 fashion. Some of the best young players, I think Morant wears some long compression hose under his shorts. I'm sure he doesn't call them compression hose, but that's what they are. Joel Embiid also. I'm pretty sure Joel Embiid are keeping
Starting point is 00:22:42 him together, keeping his body together. Yes. I guess that's the hard part is all those companies, they go after the athletes and they're like, here's $7 million to rock this shit. Right. I think we just get a groundswell going. Yeah. Oh, I would gladly accept $7 million to wear compression gear if anybody's offering. Do let me know.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Yeah. We're open to the conversation. We're not going to say no outright okay right all right let's take a quick break brand compression wear we'll come back and talk about colonialism i'm jess casavetto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling, first-hand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:24:17 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds. Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist.
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Starting point is 00:27:25 I didn't know that it had gotten to this level that the European white supremacists are thinking about coming our way. Yeah. Yeah. Colonizing the Americas yet again. This is a really interesting one, right? So there's many, like right now, it's in Western Europe, Germany, Austria, Switzerland,
Starting point is 00:27:41 that there's a lot of people who are like, just, you know, fucking over everything. They're over the immigrants, you know, they're over the mandates, they're over the taxes and the EU, like just disenfranchising us. So they have looked, you know, to Paraguay, okay, to get their, find their new home. And a website for one of the, you know, this community, but really just a gigantic, weird settlement, asks potential residents these questions just to get an idea of who they're trying to appeal to. Have you had enough of the preference given by economic refugees who are unwilling to integrate? Growing unease about the destruction of our culture and our homeland?
Starting point is 00:28:19 Are you tired of paying taxes, tax audits, and the tax office? Do you no longer feel at home at home in Germany? Do you expect the overburdened social systems and internal order in Germany and Austria to collapse? Do you long for real freedom? Do you want to finally get out of the matrix? Well, if you answered yes to any of those questions, you may be interested in this really bizarre place that people have set up in paraguay they did capitalize matrix and put it in quotes suggesting that they're talking about the movie like do they or is this aimed at people who just like can't haven't figured out how to stop watching the movie or i think i don't it's hard to say they're they're hate-pilled either way right right yeah like but they really it's like huh yeah it's a support group for people who are like man I gotta get out
Starting point is 00:29:12 man please just I don't know where that thing is in the back of my head so I can unplug myself from the matrix I need to get out sir but yeah these people are very serious and you know, and so are the people that are even thinking about going to this place. And they're just all over the place, right? They've talked about like how they're trying to escape like 5g vaccine mandates, fluoridated water, fucking chem trails.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Like all of these things are like straight up listed on their website. So it's very much like, Hey, Hey, Hey, you freaked out by everything and making stuff up to come on down. And this area is owned by this couple named Erwin and Sylvia. And now and they want to build a community, quote, large enough to preserve the culture of the individual ethnic groups, their language values, as well as science and education. Right now, they want to draw 6,000 European immigrants
Starting point is 00:30:05 to settle into a handful of small communities. Ugh. Yeah. It makes my stomach feel bad. Yeah. And, you know, I think the trick here for them is that the government in Paraguay, they mandate that international travelers are vaccinated to enter the country. So some of these like you know
Starting point is 00:30:25 wannabe colonists they're now like exploring like land entry options so you know because they don't want to buckle to the mandates or whatever and also the free taxes part might be a problem because the government i'm sure is like i'm sorry what right you're just gonna pull up and you don't pay any tax okay well yeah we can try that out. So, yeah, there's there's many problems presented by this group. Yeah. And, you know, Paraguay is one of the worst places for COVID because it has like a very impoverished health care system. And so you're going to send a bunch of unvaccinated people to go there and obviously die themselves, but probably burden the health care system there already. One hundred percent health care system there and, you know, get other people sick. Right. And the regional hospital there where they're settled, they're
Starting point is 00:31:18 settling has one ambulance and no ICU beds. OK, but, you know you know sadly racists fleeing to this area is nothing new i mean fucking joseph mengela uh if you might remember him the auschwitz angel of death he ended up becoming a naturalized citizen uh in paraguay yeah later on because he bounced from like brazil or you know how you know how that nazi shuffle goes brazil argentina whatever you do you find out where you end up uh and that's where he ended up until his death in 1979 or he lived like sort of near the border i believe and also a colony for aryans is also not a new thing like niches like sister and her husband they built a place called nueva germania there and it was a proto-fascist colony that they set up her husband died and things just went
Starting point is 00:32:06 really south as quote nueva germania sank under the weight of financial problems internal conflict and the settlers lack of agricultural knowledge so i think that might be you know some what it could be a similar path considering that when you think about the person for who's running this new place paraíso verde he's also talking about preserving the germanic people's culture and keep them away from the quote the presence of islam so i mean i do love anytime these people want to put put their money on their on the line with the whole we're the superior form of humanity, so we can do anything. And then go down there and not be able to start a fire. Like, my back hurts from hoeing, from tilling.
Starting point is 00:32:54 They're like, we're fucked then. But yeah, do it in your own backyard. Try and fucking start a garden before you go do this shit. Well, also like the hypocrisy, right? Of these people being like the damn immigrants won't assimilate so you're just gonna go immigrate somewhere to another country fucking not assimilate your culture but not there whatever your idea of your culture is uh cool cool cool yeah it's but i feel like you know this is kind of a thing i've
Starting point is 00:33:24 heard this from other people like in the u.s too who are like kind of fringy like you know anti-vaccine people where it's like there's a deep down desire to be like i just want to be a part of a community like i just want to get out of the city and like yeah like live off the land so i can see how this can sort of snowball into then people with money being like, we found this impoverished country. We've come like through bribes. We've created this other fucking, you know, nation within a nation.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Like when we've paid, we've bribed our way into sovereignty. Right. Yeah. Like the Jonestown parallels are a little bit too much to just leave off the table because cults are cults. And like, leave off the table because cults are cults and like it's simplistic to call something with such an influential global history as European racism,
Starting point is 00:34:11 a cult, but part of what gets people today involved in these movements are the same tools that cults use to draw people in to their movements. This, the language of like, are you alienated where you live do you think everyone else is wrong but you're super right do you want to be with all the other people that know they're right too are all these things a b and c defined clear scary things scaring you too
Starting point is 00:34:37 like come on over the parallel to the language that convinces people to do something like leave it all behind to go to do backbreaking labor they are utterly incapable of doing in land they have no understanding of at all is um it's not dissimilar yeah their page you know is sort of saying like you know we've got the skills and people involved we have a 3d printer for all they always say that shit so did owen benjamin told you that you're to be fine living off a van in his weird land. You're going to die out there. Don't go.
Starting point is 00:35:08 But the fact that like Jonestown is like, you know, this was a sort of left-leaning vision of a paradise that was insidiously evil and led by a maniac. You can use the language on either side. Right. No, absolutely. Where it all meets in the terrifying middle is like taking advantage of people's alienation. There's like the fact that you are also racist says something terrible about you that is different.
Starting point is 00:35:30 But the fact that you are vulnerable to these, like, you know, really transparent, manipulative tactics is. Yeah. We talk a lot on the show about like how there's just such a utter, like just community. The, a thing that like is kind of invisible and not really well articulated in like our literature or whatever. absolute human need to have community and like, you know, family relations and friends. And,
Starting point is 00:36:06 you know, it's probably better documented in other cultures, but in America, it's just like, not so much. We're all atomized profit centers that are trying to build brands. I feel like I'm making up his name because it was I'm guessing it's Ron Johnson and it is, but his name is Ron Johnson, a senator. i don't even know if this clip was new but i kind of feel like it was just it like watch the video of a senator senator saying like i've never really thought that it was society's responsibility to help pay for other people's children he was talking about like benefits for kids and just the like you know the talking point way in which he said it, where we're all supposed to go, yeah, it's not our responsibility, as if raising children isn't definitively communal job, right? Almost every other culture that's ever been. And I say that hating kids and having none
Starting point is 00:36:54 of my own. It's great that you have yours, keep having them. They're great. I just can't. They I don't know how to but that's wonderful. If you want, I don't want to, but I'm glad that you participate positively with you in doing it. Like will high five with them i will smile at them in the market and i would assist you in raising them because i'm part of the community but that sense that our leaders holder that our sort of culture runs with that like no no that's not up to me and that i mean right back to this community that's like who are these immigrants that want to assimilate? It's like, do you mean these people that you live in a world with? Do you mean the people you share
Starting point is 00:37:29 a one and only glove with that are now in your community that you are now in a relationship with? Right. It's all forms of trying to deny the interconnectedness, right? It's like, well, then if I do this, then I'm not beholden to mandates or whatever,
Starting point is 00:37:43 but you probably are unless you've completely, you know, you could completely control the government or something like that. Yeah. Yeah, it's, yeah. It's like a visceral, I feel like this and, like, even the stuff we were talking about with NFTs and, like, them being, like, having rituals where they're, like, good morning and good night to one another.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Like, and yeah, it's like really sad and sweet, but it's like, because we've replaced like these cultural and, you know, community-based relationships with social media, that is a like monetizable,
Starting point is 00:38:24 like monetized thing algorithm. Like we are looking elsewhere for like what we used to get from community and people are making money and getting power out of that, I think. Right. And it's odd when you have senators be like, it's not our responsibility to do that. And they have to articulate that to be able to say that, like, well, that's why the policies are like that, because I'm saying that's the norm. But, you know, you look at what happens when natural disasters strike. Human beings typically are like, yeah, I let's figure out how to help each other. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:58 You know, you read more stories than not. When when shit's really going down, people do figure out, no, I'm willing to help. I understand. I can only imagine what it's like for someone who doesn't have the ability to traverse the snow or whatever, and I can, so therefore I'll help. That's where it becomes a little bit sticky too
Starting point is 00:39:18 because even if the rhetoric is just completely inhumane, luckily we still haven't crossed that point where our instincts are now telling us, get the fuck away from me, needy person. Right. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I mean, we do that on some level, but you know, it's, but I think the only thing is in extreme situations, it tends to come out more. When it's literally in front of our face.
Starting point is 00:39:39 When it's like, our neighbor's house is on fire, we will probably go help our neighbor even if we hate them. Right. It is a rare person that will let like, their neighbor just like,, perish in a fire giggling outside their lawn. And you can really hate that neighbor.
Starting point is 00:39:52 But, yeah, on a larger scale, the neighbor we can't see down the street, oh, they're starving and we just don't pay any attention. But that's a different conversation. Right. And sort of a human condition. and sort of a human condition but like the like the racism spice is just so terrifying that othering like at this and this fragile point in our weird history is it's an interesting horrifying thing to watch like yeah the deliberate dehumanization is almost necessary to function in a society where 4 000 people die of a disease that we just have football games and still like, it's, there's a level of disconnect that's happening on a grander scale that we are seeing reflected more readily in that smaller individual scale where racists are just like, yeah, I'm racist and I'm going to Paraguay. That's a big step.
Starting point is 00:40:41 That's not. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do feel like the truth is ultimately like on the side of like, like you were saying, like the fact that people in like after hurricanes will like look out for one another. But then you have like the police coming in and like arresting and shooting people like it's it's like the very basic like most human instinct is the right one and it's the kind one it's just we have these like very persistent and profitable institutions in place but that does at least i'm glad you brought that up about the natural
Starting point is 00:41:26 disasters because that is like kind of a thing that can give you a little bit of hope is that like you know they're going to keep coming up with like different new institutions and like ways to try and like scam you and take advantage of your human needs but ultimately our instincts tend in the right direction. Somewhat altruistic in the end. Speaking of which, let's all send a mouse to Tennessee. Let's just all ship a copy to a pick an address
Starting point is 00:41:56 and just send it out. Let's literally drop a comic book. Now that it's banned. I hope I pick the right state. But when you see it creeping here, it's so dumb. Like, that particular sliver, the mouse banning was just so like, well, there's damn in it. It's like, that's the part you were worried about? That's the part.
Starting point is 00:42:14 It's like, it's, yeah, we're doing the same thing here, but dumber, which is just so hard to watch the spiral of. Yeah, it's somehow dumber than idiocracy in the end. And the American ad for our colony would be like, are you tired of critical race theory being taught in your school? Like, you know, that would be one of the banner headlines of the pitch to get like Americans out to Paraguay.
Starting point is 00:42:39 And it's exhausting. It's just so painfully stupid. Exactly. You sick of you sick of the, your community becoming darker. Well, come on down to little St. Jeff's just so painfully stupid. Exactly. You sick of your community becoming darker? Well, come on down to Little St. Jeff's Island. Where we honor Joe Rosen's definition
Starting point is 00:42:52 of darker. Where we rate your skin according to this paint sample and try to figure out exactly what kind of black we would call you. Well, let's see. But I feel like it could be like the new villages, right? Or like escape colonies for people who are so vile because they realize like, man, I'm pretty much like just a pariah in my community, but I have the means to do something. Let me just live in Pariah Island and, you know, we'll just melt down together. melt down together.
Starting point is 00:43:24 I mean, I say that I'm talking from a five acre campground in the desert. I really have no license to be like, who are these people going to this isolated place? I've created it. If my ideas sound appealing to you, come and join me out here in this hardscrabble environment. I'm just kidding. Don't come. There are signs that say don't enter. But still, you know, it's a, I really can't
Starting point is 00:43:40 come for people who've decided to retreat a little bit. Right. I just hope I'm doing it from freedom fry compound but you're not saying like my personal philosophy is incongruent with being a good human being like that's where they're at you know what i mean yes yeah yeah and i don't know people have probably heard the news about mouse being banned in tennessee but that yeah and then you made reference to a joe rogan clip that he's apparently just like openly openly racist like i did i didn't realize that until like i saw this latest batch of clips but he's just straight up yeah like hey
Starting point is 00:44:22 i mean it's like it's like you didn't we had enough evidence before those clips you'd be like yeah yeah just put that on the wastebile right there yeah yeah yeah for sure all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil the 7m tiktok cult and i'm cleo gray former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.
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Starting point is 00:48:15 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. and we're back and i just wanted to touch briefly on the work of this writer alec karakatsanis i think we're going to try and have him on the show, but he laid out a story like the reality behind a story that was making waves a few over, like went mainstream media viral. Like it was like picked up by reporters. And then the New York Times wrote a story about it. It was all over the front page of Drudge. And so Alec sort of took apart the New York Times article by just like looking at the sources that they actually used in the article because the article is like basically this is an out of control problem and the police are are having trouble controlling it and it's totally new also people have never been doing things like this in the history of our robbing trains in america no yeah like even including like my grandfather used to steal coal off a train in
Starting point is 00:49:42 chicago like like in the depression like yeah it was like a time i mean not a time-honored thing but this is nothing new but uh but i love the angle this time to just always kind of bring it to like it's such an issue like what's happening to our tvs first of all the per the reporter who happened to catch this viral piece of video is a big pro-police reporter. The New York Times article, the sources are authorities, in quotes. Okay. LAPD captain. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:13 The police, in quotes. Okay. LAPD captain, twice more. Okay. Railroad corporation, twice. Railroad corporation spokesperson. Okay. Association of American Railroads.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Okay. LAPD captain. Assistant Professor of Marketing. Railroad Corporation, Railroad Spokesperson, DA, LAPD Captain, five more times. Five golden rays for Railroad Corps. Two, Association of American Railroads. Five golden rings. Four railroad corps. Two Association of American Railroads. One Ella the police. And an assistant professor of marketing.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Marketing. The fact that it's a professor of marketing, how do they even fit that in? It's like, well, I know a professor. Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm about to be tenured. I feel like we need to spartan this up a little bit because it's all just cops being like, we need more bang bangs. Well, I know a professor. Kind of. An assistant professor. My brother. It's one of those doctors that smoke in the beginning of 1960s infomercials. I'm a doctor
Starting point is 00:51:24 and I smoke winston cigarettes like they're good for your healthy nerves uh he also points out like that this was exactly how the story that went viral right before christmas was constructed with the uh you know national wave of smash and grab coordinated retail theft. And then the stories about how like Rite Aid or CVS or one of those Walgreens was like hemorrhaging money from all this theft. And he had also taken apart the Chicago Tribune article, which was all the sources were all police and CEO of retail lobb lobbies or world business chicago or restaurant lobby so it's all just business interest sort of collage mixed with police sources and i just i feel like
Starting point is 00:52:17 this shit is very effective because people love to be scared of a new crime wave that is affecting America or their community. There was this truly staggering Frank Luntz thing that I keep coming back to where they sat down with a panel of, quote, undecided voters who all seemed to be decided about the one big problem with America being that we've defunded the police and now crime is out of control, which Alec in this thread points out that that was not a thing that happened. Nobody got defunded. He was like, here are the things that they don't mention in the piece that the LAPD already has an astonishing $3 billion budget. Most of it is spent on low-level traffic drugs, homelessness, and mental illness-related stuff. The LAPD is in the midst of a big budget fight trying to get a 12% increase. And the LAPD and LA Sheriff together have 67 full-time employees working on PR and propaganda. They spend so much money and time planting these sorts of stories.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Right. Or to, like, fuck with the work of people like, you know, Cerise Castle. Yeah. Who's, like, actively, like, unmasking them. And then them constantly having, like, you know, harassment campaigns just making life difficult for people
Starting point is 00:53:41 who are trying to, like, you know, shine a light on this. Yeah. And the flip, where it's like these teenagers pushed an ambulance to pick up this unattended 94 year old grandma like let's give them a gold medal where like the mainstream media also normalizing conditions of our decline as being heroic or adorable or somehow like the three billion dollars that you just brought up it's a straight line between like it's fine that this is happening and like these guys need more money like there's not a a difference in those where like well that money should go to like actually repairing our crumbling infrastructure that's making all these like that's making like a gofundme get a 17 year old car for a woman who
Starting point is 00:54:23 walks through the snow to get to a minimum wage job. Like, that's not a feel-good story. That's a community depleted of resources because there's an insidious straw drinking their milkshake. Right. Yeah, yeah. My references are dated if they're, like, timeless, right? Is that just? Hey, no, he's from the Valley, you know.
Starting point is 00:54:40 That's a classic. From the Valley, you know. That's a classic. But just elsewhere, he pointed out that the L.A. Sheriff, in the aftermath of the racial justice protests, had 42 employees doing misleading PR in an information bureau costing millions. And the strategic communications director made $200,000 a year. Oh, my God. Head boot throater gets 200 grand? Yeah. Damn.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Damn. Damn. That's not enough blood money. Like, that's a ton of money. That's a shit ton of resources for one job to go to that, like, shouldn't even exist. But also, that is not enough money to sell yourself. Like, it's just not. You got taxes. You got all sorts of shit coming off the top of that. Like, that isn't blood money.
Starting point is 00:55:19 You don't, yeah. You need fuck you money to pitch the police to the mainstream media like that. Yeah, I almost want to talk to that person and be like, do you know what your job actually is? It's to maintain billions of dollars in budget. Yeah, seriously. Are they not showing you those numbers? To completely sustain our rapid decline and regression as a society. Okay, well, do it for two.
Starting point is 00:55:41 I'm guessing it's like somebody who was promoted internally and like their other option is like doing murders, you know. like starting to fund a very small pilot program but like an actual they're putting funding behind it where mental health resources are like a there's a number you can call instead of 9-1-1 i think it's 9-8-8 but and like get mental health help instead of the police coming with guns drawn to you know panic and harm somebody so i don't know that that made me think of that because i do think like that these reporters just have it in their head that like well if we need to if we want to find out what happened here who do we talk to like after a tragedy we can talk to the victim's family and we can talk to the police and also just the the the nature the relationship between like local news and police is sort of like y'all give me stories
Starting point is 00:56:51 so i can say things on the news that'll make people watch the fucking news yeah and i'm not going to challenge a fucking thing you say because then i lose my scoops on things right and so everything's already fucked up like because of it's like, yeah, everything is so interconnected in terms of the motivations on why to do it. While I'm sure you think of many local reporters are just like, they just look at it as like, well, that's my job is to talk with the people that are helping keeping us safe. And I don't know someone who's destitute to talk to. And also, I don't think that's what the news should be about. It has to be like a movie where Commissioner Gordon speaks after a fight. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:57:30 We still lend weight to whatever an official voice is. And there's not a counter with equal society, societal clout that, you know, there's no balance to what the voice of the police is. There's no balance to what the voice of the police is. There's no other institution for human welfare in our society that's recognized as an official. Our officials are in the criminal justice system, for whatever those three words incongruously mean. It's a weird conundrum where, I mean, again, back to the fascists that are trying to form their own community. where, I mean, again, back to the fascists that are trying to form their own community, we're still weird apes who enjoy a hierarchical order and want to look for the voice that we should listen to in a situation. And societally, we still make that cops, we still make that representatives with, like, recognition that we've assigned. And we don't really have a parallel,
Starting point is 00:58:20 we don't recognize, like, you know, you'd bump up a quote from a cop and a social worker's at the bottom of an article even though institutionally like perhaps building some balance and how we perceive those jobs i mean right but then look it's a whole thing but yeah we don't really have a balance for those voices and that is a weird position for reporters yeah for all for all the lapd captain quotes like where's the one from a sociologist or a community activist or organizer or someone who can actually explain what the condition of human beings would be that would create things like this? It's not because it's a bunch of bored, rich people. You know, like it. But again, that's that's a bridge too too far and it's just easy to be like,
Starting point is 00:59:06 oh man, so people are just stealing stuff, huh? And they're like, yeah, and it's expensive, man. Millions in losses. And they had a quote from the sheriff being like, they're trying their hardest, but we just don't have the funding. We're just so understaffed.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Here it is. They're really trying, but we are all understaffed here it is they are really trying but we were all understaffed but we are all understaffed it's one of those it's the deadliest year on record for police and this police force and then you discover it's all unvaccinated COVID deaths and it's like well god damn it's uh
Starting point is 00:59:37 I do wonder if it's like a strategic communications director for police making $200,000 a year if once you get to a certain size institution in the mainstream media, if like, it's not an option to report those stories, I'd love to have like, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:50 well, where are the voices we should listen to at that scale? And I think at that scale, that's not a voice that's going to get heard that like, you know, all those interests are united. The same people who make the stuff that's sold to the police are also making the media pitching the police. So it's really hard to like separate them. And if you're a reporter actually making money for writing, and I don't know, I feel like I'm generalizing a group that's like working really hard.
Starting point is 01:00:25 that are real news shedding light on things that should our society should know and care about and being silenced by these enormous institutions and their peers in a field like what an interesting time in journalism where there's so much news to report and so much news not being reported by institutions that are technically hiring journalists that's just got to be really tough and i'm glad that you talked to those folk. Yeah. Well, we do need to talk about Blockbuster video, which is on everybody's mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Apparently there's like a viral trend of people building full-scale video stores in their basements. I love our pivots. The media is fucked. We don't have a proper balance. All right, I'm gonna fucking blockbuster. Let's let's get back we need to we need to yeah so one guy in british columbia is making a blockbuster 2 in his basement and actually renting movies to people like everybody else it seems like it's just like a very space inefficient way to house their video collection or dvd collection but this person's
Starting point is 01:01:27 actually like creating a a place where people you know can come and rent videos from his home okay and there's also that documentary the last blockbuster on earth the theme or sort of the way that that movie leaves you you're like are, are they going to last like one more year? And it turns out like that. It has vastly increased business, which obviously it has that, that Netflix documentary Netflix to the point that Netflix recently greenlit an entire comedy series starring Randall Park set in the last Blockbuster in America.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Okay. So, last Blockbuster in America is killing it. Unfortunately, crypto enthusiasts are attempting to buy the Blockbuster brand. Blockbuster Dow wants to raise $5 million to buy Blockbuster from one of the owners, or from the owners, which is Dish Network, I guess. Who, I'm guessing, are not going to do that since they just reached that deal with Netflix. But yeah, the DAO goal is to turn Blockbuster into a streaming service powered by Blockbuster crypto tokens
Starting point is 01:02:38 and also featuring original film and gaming content. Dude, hell yeah. Blockchain, Blockbuster. We got it right there just right there yeah just sit yummy but you know jm points out that like this ties perfectly into what we've been talking about the whole time that like the reason people are nostalgic for blockbuster is it was a time when we got to leave the house and see people in our community in the context of like looking at movies and talking about movies and you know looking like a cover of movies yeah i mean
Starting point is 01:03:13 it's the same shit honestly like because a lot of people like there's all kinds i see like viral tiktok videos too of people like turning their basements into like these like retro spaces it it really like people are looking for that comfort of like just regressing into like these like retro spaces it it really like people are looking for that comfort of like just regressing into like their childhood nostalgia and i'm telling you i said this before we just need to buy an old abandoned mall and get shit kind of looking like 93 in there and you can people will fucking i i'm telling you i i can only imagine if you had a food court with like old shit it feels like the 90s somehow people like this is like where i always needed to be and i can and i see that with the blockbuster stuff because it it connects to me too i'm like
Starting point is 01:03:56 yeah that would be like fuck it if there was something like that i'd probably go just to have that feeling of like you know like even blockbush, like finding the video you wanted, you'd like curse the heavens. If someone else rented it, you're like, fuck. Right. Earth girls are easy is out again with a power trio of Jeff Goldblum,
Starting point is 01:04:16 David, Damon Wayans, and Jim Carrey. It's so slept on. All right. Who rented cereal mom? Right. Are these your pussy willows? All right. Who rented cereal, mom? Right.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Are these your pussy willows? Love that. I love that movie. In the 93 mall, like you would like the teenagers who deal weed there would be forced to deal really shitty weed. Like from like 1993. Or dude, fuck it. You just build a dispensary in there but you license it so you buy it from a guy in a pearl jam t-shirt you know what i mean the dispensary like they're just guys you'd be like hey hey you got weed and like they've got like a bunch of like legit retail
Starting point is 01:04:56 cannabis and they're like yeah cash it's already taxed but then you can like and then go to part of the parking lot where you can smoke it it It's just Toyota Camrys with smoked out cloth interiors. You park off site and get picked up by a fleet. Yeah, you get picked up by a fleet of Ubers that are just like mall cars from that era. Or like Dodge Caravans with the wood panel siding like your parents would drive. I was going to say like a minivan,
Starting point is 01:05:30 but with the wood panel siding like your parents would drive i was gonna say like a minivan with but with the lights underneath it that was one yep that was our malls like kind of oh he had an underglow kit underglow kit on a on his mom's might went white minivan such a power move power swag i love it oh that mall would be a huge hit anyway look that's why y'all gotta buy zeitcoin you know so we can raise the capital yeah because the 93 mall dao the decentralized autonomous organization is looking for you know to put that capital together moonfall is like premiering on imax with like a bunch of NFTs that you can get, which I don't know what the fuck that but apparently I don't know. That just forever
Starting point is 01:06:12 cements that movie as being stupid as fuck in my mind. But maybe it'll be good. We'll see. Yeah. And look out for the first episode ever of Daily Zeitgeist to come out as an NFT folks. You're going to want to get on that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Big, big money. Oh, yeah. Yes, sir. Sorry. I use conventional money and most of my art is in a physical media. It is. So it was always so fun to talk to you guys. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Where can people find you, follow you, buy your stuff? Yeah. Caitlin, go comedy. Or well, so guarantee shirts, guarantee shirts dot com.com come check out the teas get a tea uh the zeitgang is always has been so supportive of my little venture and if anybody needs a tea i got you yeah otherwise caitlin is tall on twitter or uh or excuse me on instagram or robot caitlin on twitter if i could remember any of my socials but if you do follow me you'll observe that i've tweeted nothing for like a year. I'm free. I'm free. I exist. There you go. Only looking. I say that I look at Twitter for like too many hours a day. I do nothing. I wallflower really hard on social
Starting point is 01:07:12 media, but I'm pleased with that place for myself. Still follow me. The numbers make me feel good. Yeah. But otherwise I really did just move and I am sitting, I'm broadcasting from my little t-shirt lab, which it took a long time to get this back up. I'm just really proud that it is up and running again. It was a little scary to have it down. So if y'all want to give me a workout in here, I'd be delighted to spend a little time in the T-Lab. I'm really happy that I have a, it has like the biggest space I've ever had for it. I get to do a bunch of cool new stuff.
Starting point is 01:07:40 It's really awesome to have finally landed in a cute little home for my cute little t-shirt adventure and yeah 420dayfiance.com for the best in podcasting merch little secret that is brewed in the merch kitchen by caitlyn gill so i'd be happy to cook up any any teas for the 420 day fiance community come on out check out the merch it's awesome stuff and yeah i got some more i need to put up for you. But thanks for letting me get all settled. My photo box is up. I'm going to take some cool pictures of you guys.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Look, look, it's all it's it's all it's all happening. It's all happening. It's all happening, though. It's happening. Get the tease. They're all very good. And Caitlin, is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes.
Starting point is 01:08:23 So I'm going to turn to Zach Reinhart, Zach Reinhart Zero on Twitter, always a worthy follow. Kid Rock makes music for people who know the exact legal amount of Sudafed you're allowed to buy at Walgreens. I mean, and that is the coolest thing about Kid Rock. You know, yeah, that's about it. That's the maximum cool. Zach just really has a way with words. And, you know, that description was so accurate and vivid that I thought it deserved the shine. I feel like I've used his tweets before because he's really funny. But if you don't follow Zach, follow him.
Starting point is 01:08:54 And his album Boatload of Jokes is real good. Yeah, yeah. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. And also, you know, check out 420 Day Fiance, as Caitlin said. If you like that reality trash discourse, come on by. A tweet I like is from Ellie Crimmendall.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Got Ellie Crimmendall tweeted. Ten years before I knew I had ADHD, I took Adderall at a music festival. My friends were all jacked up and dancing, but I was like, it's suddenly manageable for me to sit calmly under this tree and reply to some text messages. I remember being in a situation like that, taking Adderall
Starting point is 01:09:35 in college, and some person was like, wait, dude, I'm not feeling it. So I hear you, Adderall. Yeah, yeah. Some tweets I've been been enjoying you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien liking things such as caleb here on tweeted if we're going to keep the supreme court they should have to live together in a content house the world is changing evolve or die i think that's right nine justices pick to live in the house for the rest of their lives. See what happens when they refuse to retire.
Starting point is 01:10:10 And then at female boyfriend tweeted, college admission essays were crazy. They really had kids writing about seeing their mother die in a car crash just to get into Boston University. and then glizzy gladiator tweeted why people named deborah always go by deb and never bruh something to think about deborah's uh you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes on our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy today?
Starting point is 01:10:59 Oh, well, well, well. I was very pleasantly surprised to see that you know there's a tom green or tom tom green tom tom york is making some new music with a johnny greenwood yeah and tom green fuck it so it's a power trio uh but no tom york and johnny greenwood and uh the drummer from i forget what the band is they have a group called The Smile and they have a new track out called The Smoke. And it's dope. Like it's, you know, it's Tom York and Johnny Greenwood. So it'll have if you like Radiohead, it'll definitely evoke something as you listen to it.
Starting point is 01:11:34 But this drummer is also like, you know, funky with it, too. So this track is kind of got a lot of bass, picked bass and a really cool bass line in it. So this is The Smoke by The Smile. And the chorus goes daddy would you like some sausage sausage yep uh all right sorry my bum is on the swedish the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows that's gonna do it for us this morning we're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending and we will talk to y'all then.
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