The Daily Zeitgeist - CopaGandalf vs. NYT, White House Participation Trophies 04.05.23

Episode Date: April 5, 2023

In episode 1456, Miles and guest co-host, super producer Becca Ramos are joined by comedian, Andrew Ti to discuss... Trump getting rich-white-guy arrested and charged with 34 counts of crime and the reporters lining up outside the courthouse like it's a Taylor Swift concert, Jill Biden offering participation trophies, MTG's 60 Minutes interview (and the failure of legacy media), James Patterson's (AKA CopaGandalf) open letter to the NYT and much more! LINKS  Becca: my mother might be the most extremely offline human and i am so jealous. #momsoftiktok #guessingcelebrities #fyp Andrew: Your bones may be in Jeopardy LISTEN: Rosalia & Rauw Alejandro - Vampiros 1. Trump Arrest Live: Former President Pleads Not Guilty 34 Felony Counts in Hush-Money Case (wsj.com) 2. Trump Indictment: Chaos, Bribes in Line for Court (nymag.com) 3. Angel Reese: Jill Biden's press secretary clarifies White House invitation after player calls it 'A JOKE' | CNN 4. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s ‘60 Minutes’ Segment a Lesson in Legacy Media Fails (thedailybeast.com) 5. New York Times best-seller James Patterson questions book list (nypost.com)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Maybe send their big strong men It makes me wonder if I'm gonna have to call Lin Wood I am filled with much regret 34 counts isn't good That's the impression that I get Okay, shout out to Christy Yamaguchi-Maine At OhShitIt on Twitter I know you sent that one through the Discord

But I like Linwood references, you know, got to bring up the esoteric figures from the stop the steal era. So thank you so much for that. And I'm thrilled to be joined by my co-host a wonderful producer, a wonderful I would say generational bridge

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today's guest host, Becca Ramos. Hello, hello, AKA the anti-Texan Tekken, AKA I only have so many AKs because I don't think about them on the spot. You don't have to, that's okay. Let the intro speak for itself, even though I just screamed it. It was one giant run-on sentence. Thank you so much for joining me today. And, you know, Becca, we're really fucking honored today to have

this guest here. Someone who, last week, we decided, we realized may have a really, really robust career in homebrew science ahead of them. And this is somebody, again, you already know I'm going with this. All I have to tell you is, you don't want to catch these fucking hands, because welcome to the microphone, Andrew T!

Alright, this one's ambitious. Guess who's back? Back again. Andrew's not Jack. Tell a friend. Now this looks like a job for t read it up on all these news stories jack still got out on spring b so you got no choice but andrew t that was perfect that was beautiful yeah bring it down it was everything we needed wow welcome welcome how are you andrew i mean it took me too long to write that.

What's new? Have you thought any more about 23andT or ChatGPT? You know, what I have, I really, this comedian, Joe Wong, who used to be a real ass scientist, texted me the other day and I hadn't talked to him in a while and i was like i think we're gonna do this wait so you you you posited this to joe and he was he was like no not yet he was just like yo yo it's been a while like and then he just brought up biochemistry and i was like oh that's right that was like your actual factual job right to getting into stand-up. Wow. So I think I'm going to pitch him. I'm telling you. I'm going to

give you my DNA. Yeah. You should. You should trust me more than the savvy business people at 23andMe. Yeah. Here's the thing. Here's why it's safe giving me your data. I wouldn't know what to do with it even if i had it right like i am simply too stupid to exploit you and that is why you can

trust me that's where i push back because you are not stupid and now you sound like an ai who's like working it out it's like i will present myself as bumbling in order to gain their trust no chat nice fucking try i'm taking my i'm taking my dna where it can be trusted amazon so uh let's tell people what we're going to talk about today and then we'll talk a little bit about andrew's you know new found career path we are going to talk about the line that is formed outside the manhattan courthouse the night before trump went in because apparently ticks to get in were the hottest item since uh beyonce announced that tour also talk about jill biden doing the most both sidesy shit i've ever fucking heard of and has completely invited the ire of every sports fan and person of color on the planet maybe uh we'll talk about 60 minutes continuing to show

us that legacy media is just unable to fucking do anything in this really terrible time of ours. And if we have a moment, we'll talk about James Patterson and his gripes with the NYT bestseller list and plenty more. But first, Andrew T. Yo. What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? This is far too illuminating about who I am. But yesterday I spent, I will just admit, far too long trying to figure out if there was still some way to distinguish Twitter blue from Twitter verified. Yeah, there's a plug-in, isn't there? There's a plug-in, but there is also a, I tweeted this, there is, you can search dash filter colon verified space filter colon blue underscore verified.

And if you search that, it just has a list of everyone who paid for Twitter Blue. There was something where we'll put an emoji next to it if they knew you were paying for it to make it visually as easy as possible to see. But that's like a plug-in to a browser, and who's using Twitter on a browser? That would be crazy. Nah, nah, who the fuck would do something like that? That's some foul 38-year-old

shit to do. Well, look, I've never used Twitter on my phone. I only use it on my phone. Really? I mean, you guys have a much healthier relationship with reality in that case. But I don't know. I think, I think. So the thing with that, though, is I, as some people might know, if they follow me on Twitter,

I'm a world champion amateur blocker. I'm like Olympic level, but not pro level in terms of blocking people on Twitter. As currently, I've blocked by hand 49,588 people so impressive 49 what the fuck i don't even think i've smoked that many joints it's basically my little just like nervous it's like my fidget spinner or a little habit like so what happens like how do you get to blocking like you post something and trolls come out and you go blah blah blah blah or you just look at random people like i don't even fuck with this person block that was the initial one now my my list of uh criteria for blocking first of all if anyone like talks

insane obviously any kind of bigot just gone anyone who comes in my friends mentions gone oh wow possibly a little more controversially anyone who ever advertises on twitter and this was pre-iwan gone and that that got me into trouble a couple times when i started to have friends who like had tv shows and stuff sure sure sure so i had to modulate it to blocking the entity that paid for the yeah the right right right rather than like your home show yeah you know just trying to get some emmy consideration exactly because it's hard and then obviously the newest criterion is anyone Right, right, right. Rather than like your homie show. Yeah, exactly. Just trying to get some Emmy consideration. Exactly. Because it's hard out here. And then, obviously, the newest criterion is anyone that paid for Twitter Blue.

Right. Insta-block. Yeah, step in my face with that, swat it out. Get the fuck out. So, yeah, just over the years. I mean, this is over the entire time. I've basically had these rules, at least, you know, whatever version of these rules. When did you come on the scene?

I came on in like 2009. Yeah, I mean. The scene. Yeah. I actually had to be before that. How long have you come on the scene i came on in like 2009 yeah i mean yeah i actually had to be before that how long you've been on the block homie it's got to be probably 2007 or 8 oh when did twitter start because i i think when i when i lived in new york at comedy central and i moved to la in 2009 so prior to that whatever that i did i used to do the shit where you would text your tweets yeah i remember that like literally text some number i remember that's why the first i was like why the fuck would i do that and it wasn't until the great food truck boom of 2009 when i was like all right fuck it i need to eat so let me figure out where the koge truck is at which is really the original my first use of

twitter and it's all gone downhill ever since they made the whole movie chef around that i know right what's something that you think is over rated overrated um i'm gonna go with golden retrievers i was just i was just in uh idle wild uh-huh idleild is a place that, I guess because it's like an unincorporated city or whatever. Anyway, their mayor is a golden retriever. It's one of those places up in the mountains. The mountain town of Idlewild. I think I heard about this a long time ago. Mayor Max, who is extremely cute.

Don't get me wrong. Has nothing to do with his cuteness. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's a corrupt politician, of course. Yeah, exactly. He's a capitalist fucking pig. Can't be easily bought. Yeah, even more than any. It's not so much that they're corrupt. It's that the price is so low.

For some milk bones, you can fucking change the police presence on your street. It's a nightmare. No, it's just that like so but idle wild is like one of those like mountain towns there's like you know cabins and fucking you know whatever like like wine stores and maybe not i don't know i don't ski but probably not skiing actually i don't think you could see out there yeah it's just one of those like you can go fucking hang out the local economy seems to mostly be based on people doing mushrooms. Cause like every other shop has like mushrooms on the t-shirts that they

sell. Oh, like on the doorway. It's like, ask me about my friend, Syl. Like a lot of mushrooms. So it was really fun.

But, but one of the things they have is that I like, I guess 2 PM, presumably every day, maybe just every weekend day. I don't really know. I don't know. I probably during the week, he's that, like, I guess 2 p.m. presumably every day, maybe just every weekend day, I don't really know. I don't know, probably during the week, he's hard at work, you know,

growing out legislation for the good people of Idlewild. You can go meet, you can wait in line and meet Mayor Max. However, Idlewild is one of those towns because it's, again, like, kind of a hippie-ish mountain town. There are dogs fucking everywhere. And, you know, just like, people just, everyone has their, like, cute-ass dogs, it and whoa you know just like people people just

everyone has their like cute ass dogs it's wonderful right and like the idea like people waiting in line to see golden retrievers when there are literally like dozens of cute dogs everywhere you look is some shit that is like fucking ridiculous wait so are the dogs just roaming free like you know like you're in like Kingston or something? Like, what are we talking about? People have dogs out. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. It's a cutie town. I took it literally like, wait, there's just dogs fucking everywhere? No, no, no, no, no. Sorry. But what I mean is there's just like every flavor of cute dog of any size is everywhere and so the the idea that like a golden retriever let's be let's be honest they kind of like you know the cis white man when you see one yeah it's like the boringest wackiest dog no offense to mayor max who wow you know i like it yeah the deference you've

paid to the office of mayor but yes yeah exactly you know what i'm just saying my chihuahua is just gonna beat the beat the brakes off mayor hell yeah november and this is this is my opportunity oh my god can we run your oh my god this is another can we run an insurgent campaign to get your dog to be the mayor of you know what i think the key is to get my dog to be the DA of Idlewild, the takedown mayor. Wow. Wow. Wow.

Wow. Wow. Building power. I have, I look all the time at my old tool set of lobbyist, muckraking and fuckery tools and how they're going dull. So I'm like, please give me something. I can bring this motherfucker max down with one print ad, one robocall.

And if we have budget, a 30 second video spot. I think we could. Yeah. And this day of, you know, digital marketing, I just think there's so many, so many viral options. I think a groundswell of opportunity. Yeah. We exploit AI where they're like, wow, Mayor Max is dressed as a fucking Nazi.

Okay. In his off time. And he's anti-mushroom okay yeah we have a lot of german shepherds in mayor max's history what's up with that what's up with that i'm just saying it's interesting it's an interesting choice i wouldn't have made that choice yeah personally if these dogs could talk so yeah fuck gold not fuck all the retrievers but overrated i think we could agree overrated overrated agreed yeah the golden retriever was like the dog of the 80s and 90s yeah you know what i mean everyone fucking has like the gold standard i remember like in class before i had a dog and people were like and i have a golden retriever and kids like i have a golden retriever i have a golden retriever and i was are like, I have a golden retriever. I have a golden retriever. And I was like, what the fuck is this?

Yeah. It's some eugenics shit, man. Any town that has all these like golden retrievers, something's up. What's the golden retriever to resident ratio? That's what we need to know.

You know? But golden retrievers are specifically very small because they're the ruling class. It's like the 1%. Mayor Max is the 1% of God and people. I saw the cutest class. It's like the 1%. Mayor Max is the 1% of gun and people. I saw the cutest thing.

I saw a very fat, some kind of mutt, but it looked like chihuahua size with curly poodle hair, but with no fur on its tail at all. Like a little rat tail sticking out. It looked like a Wallace and Gromit sheep. It was like the cutest

thing I've ever seen and he was just rooting around in the snow bank while mayor max was getting pet and photo ops and i was like this is something's up then have you seen do you know who mayor max's father is that labrador retriever yeah he likes it he likes the fact he likes to hide where he comes from mayor max you know i mean his father's brown anyway more on that later. Andrew, what is something you think is underrated? I mean, look, I guess given the specific day, we gotta

give them their one day. Gotta give it up for Resistance Libs. You know what? I'm eating my pussy hat as we speak. They're the winners today. Possibly going forward. my pussy hat as we speak they're the winners today possibly going forward yeah you know this is

I think just you know for what it's worth everyone's like you know elementary school art teacher rolling up her smock today and just drinking her coffee and knowing that her justice was served and that's what matters I know a few parents that are very proud right now.

Probably. Yeah. I've seen it's why it's, I can't, I can't handle those takes where like, again, these are this, like they're in a different reality where the mere thought,

just him being indicted is like, okay, it's done. Thank God for that. Biden 24. Here we go. It's just going to be, they've rolled over.

But my God, it's, I guess that is in a way, like I'm jealous. Cause I'm like, I wish reading that put me at ease. Like, yeah,

I agree with you on that because I had a couple friends in town and their parents are like very much on that. Like old liberal, it's Mueller time. Democrat vibe. Yeah. And they were texting in their family group chat, just being like,

did you hear the news? And like their mom giving like minute to minute update about the Trump indictment. And they were like, you know, like we get news notifications, right? Like we,

we also have the same phone. You are not our sole resource for this, this news, but they are so excited. Yeah. This is like white boomer liberals oj verdict yes yes this is like like not to like borrow like people were celebrating but it isn't like we're like we won we won what the fuck did we win right right right exactly exactly yeah okay it's just so hard for me to see that and get excited i remember i was in a fucking meeting when it happened and when i got out like i saw my phone

and i did a double take because i was like wait what the fuck happened and then the whole car ride back i didn't even listen to the news i'm like all right i'll i'll check in on this later i'm like it didn't it just didn't do anything for me but again i think it just takes time because like we said in yesterday's episode this guy's batting a thousand when he goes up to plate to fucking avoid accountability so i'm like yeah you can't you know my cynicism is well earned um so it is what it is but hey look if you if you enjoy go on and celebrate you know go shut down the intersection you know what i mean so do do some donuts. Today's your day. You're on top, you know, women's March, everything you win. You definitely win today. We all win. No, Andrew, we all win. Yeah, but they win a little more.

No, I'm going to take that victory too. I'm like, yeah, yeah. I was here with y'all the whole time. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk a little bit about the lead up to Trump's arraignment after this. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do.

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And here's the thing. I'm going to be in the pit well here's the thing at the time of this when they were getting in line no one even knew or it was never even announced quote how many reporters would be allowed inside so this was just off a fucking like rare right and apparently it all started on 2 p.m on monday when like i guess word spread on twitter and then the line got longer and it was just like this fomo like journalism fomo kicked in like all right man we got to get people down there now like i don't care fucking pay line waiters to do whatever the fuck you got to do

so the line was apparently filled with representatives from all the major outlets like the new york times and the ap and it had to be organized by one of the people in line because they were afraid that like there was no way to create order from it all unless you could be like, here's our document that we're all saying when you were, okay, you are in first position. Yes, you are there plus two people, whatever, by this blog called Law360.

But it wasn't all reporters. Like some outlets actually hired journalism students and like professional line sitters who were like,, yeah, let me read the market real quick. Yeah, my rate's doubled now to fucking spend the night in line to get there. So, you know. I love it. Yeah. I just like, though, too, that the group that was second in line, a website called Hellgate NY, they were basically out here being like, hey, one of y'all other media companies, we'll sell you our spot.

If you got 10 K we'll give it up right now. Nobody took the offer. But you know, it is what it is. It just, just, it's just wild to see like how quickly, because I believe the judge said there was going to be no cameras in there, but still they got to get in there.

Cause that's what sells the fucking, the advertisements. It's their day. Like Andrew was saying, it's, I, i i fucking love this i also just love like even just like 200 of the world's dumbest assholes could do a better job than ticket master i'll just point out just like coalescing all right what time were you in line like because there's no bots you know what i mean yeah i'm surprised that line didn't get botted i mean i guess that's what those live sitters were were kind of the bots

right right right right right yeah oh shit yeah they're your actual like smurfs uh in drug parlance to to go get do your bidding yeah so i'm not sure who got in or what the situation was but maybe we'll follow up on that but it's just an interesting like moment in time to be like yeah wait out in the fucking cold for these tickets that don't exist what's the what was the weather in new york last night i think it was nice you were there becca you were there probably like 50 yeah yeah okay i went to the grocery store with a beautiful oh my god it Oh my God. It was easy. A medium down sleeping bag. Oh yeah.

You definitely didn't need much. No. Cause it's like hot today. So I imagine overnight it wasn't that cold. I mean, New Yorkers, you know, you just,

you got your Tim's, you got your triple fat goose, puffy puffer. Bubble goose. Yeah. You got another New Yorkork thing i was like come on now what do you got a yankee fitted a pizza a pizza yankee fitted ninja turtles batman all right let's talk quickly about um jill biden i guess do we want to yeah let's so we talked about this on the trending

episode on monday the ncaa women's championship game occurred over the weekend where lsu overcame iowa and angel reese has been a fucking standout athlete throughout the tournament breaking all kinds of records and shit like that and again also unfortunately was shoved into the limelight because of her trash talk game because because it's scalding hot. And yeah, when you watch sports, you like that. That was until Caitlin Clark of Iowa ended up on the receiving end of such taunts. Now, see, Caitlin Clark is also a very talented player, and she was also getting a ton of praise for her competitiveness and all this. And she would regularly throughout the tournament hit people with the cena hand in front of face i go you can't see me type shit

like i'm fucking so next level with it there were even times where she would like wave players off on defense like i don't need to fucking d this motherfucker this fucking scrub up and people were like yeah one time she told another play to shut up and again everyone's like yeah however when it came to this championship game and angel reese a black woman came for that ass the amount of tears and pearl clutching that came from like twitter avatars that looked like they were taken inside of a pickup truck though those people started getting very very mad and we were hearing things like it's unsportsmanlike and it's not classy. It's a distraction from her team and all the good she's done as an athlete. It's a district.

It actually takes away. We even we hear this all the time when people of color do things that white people do. You know, like one version of it, too, is even how when people were fucking taken to the streets in the summer of 2020, rightfully, that people were like, oh and stuff it's taking away from the point it's taking away is there another way they could do it that isn't just so uh you know and then cut to january 6th yeah people are like oh god this was a setup anyway so again white people got very mad like keith olbermann had something to say he was like what did he say he called her a fucking idiot or something something really aggressive i was gonna say it's not just people in front of pickup trucks getting mad this is yeah this is the dark side of resistance it's also the msnbc said too let's not let's let's let's keep it g real here and you saw up and down from many people with this like really there's like a litmus test to be like okay

if you want to figure out people you have nothing in common with let's just see what their what their what was their response to this Rorschach test like what did they see because I think like myself and most other people we saw like a competitive person who was just being competitive and also trash talk is one of the best fucking parts of sports like hands down it's the shit that for all the celebrating of like michael jordan and stuff like that that was one of his most potent tools as an athlete but in this instance it was like so it somehow overtook the whole conversation when it should have been about how you know well like how well the lsu team did to win the national championship for basketball. Well, this is Iowa's fucking lucky year because Joe Biden has to hit the campaign trail soon.

And if he is indeed running again, Iowa can be a big, big get in terms of electoral college scheme of things as like, you know, I mean, now it's gone red, but still seen as a swing state. Also important to the primaries and things like that. So keep that in mind. When Jill Biden went to Colorado the following day, she mentioned that she was looking forward to having the champions in the house as well as the losers.

Let me just play this. I attended the NCAA Women's Basketball Championship. Congratulations to both teams. So I know we'll have the champions come to the White House. We always do. So, you know, we'll have LSU come. But you know what? I'm going to tell Joe, I think Iowa should come too.

Because they played such a good game. So winners and losers, that's sportsmanship. No. What? What is the YMCA game? Look, I get it when

it's kids. These are fucking elite athletes. So they know what comes along with competing at the highest levels. If you don't go all the way and you have to take an L, then you take an L and you knuckle down and you try again. That's just the spirit of competition and athletics and whatever. It's not like, fuck, man. Are you sure we can't go to because Angel Reese made me feel real bad.

Like, and that's where we're fucking at. I'm like, this is like the most ultimate both sides move, except like currying favor with one side could potentially have election ramifications. Except no, like, that is the,

I mean, look again, shout out to resistance lips. You are the winners today. However, like their instinct to always reach out to white people like like their obsession with the idea that like a bunch of like racist but not that racist white people are the most important people in the united states electorally while they alienate black people essentially usually with this move yeah like this you're actually losing people

you're making it clear that you care about again convincible racists is what you think are the most important people on earth and that's why you fucking govern the way you do and that's why like when people say democrats take you know people of color but mostly black folks for granted yeah they're right well because this is the thing the logic would be and i'm saying election ramifications in the sense that they're looking at a map and go well louisiana's l like you know what i mean in the most cynical way where they're like what are we gonna in their minds like what are we gonna alienate louisiana yeah we're never gonna do anything there iowa though with again to your

point not realizing that every single person who saw that no matter where they fucking live goes, what the fuck? They've never even done this before. Like here. When have they ever brought the it's like never. It would be unprecedented that we now are like the losers, too. Losers don't deserve shit. But again, this like bending over backwards to accommodate people because they got frightened by this elite athlete who is just as competitive as this white woman. That what the fuck?

Like, that's how it reads. Her fans, specifically the Caitlin Clarks fans, I'm going to strongly and confidently pull out of my ass are way over index for white people. So, like, that's who Joe Biden's really like talking to. I mean, look, here's the, the other, other way to look at it is, you know, even with all the disenfranchisement and all the fucking bullshit that Republicans have done, if every black person who could vote voted, there would never be a Republican in national office, not national office, but like presidency presidency like ever again as with the parties as currently constituted so like guess what like that's your actual like if there was enthusiasm from black folks about voting in higher proportions than you know the dumb white

people that they seem to care about joe biden president every year, forever. Yeah. Well, I mean, the problem is, right, like to your point that what that can be promised can only go so far until it means reckoning with white supremacy or capitalism. Then we got to hit the brakes and I'm like, I can offer you this kente cloth and I will kneel in the rotunda, but don't ask me to take away qualified immunity.

Come on now hey i will bring alicia keys on stage for this event but let's not you know let's not talk about advocating for like worker rights the wild thing is uh jill biden's spokesperson came out and was like like tried to clean it up and was just like it was like more so she said that to basically underscore how far like women's athletics have come you know in title nine and all that and that that's what she meant and everyone's like sure jan sure like that's that's what it is how does that make sense how well it it doesn't because it's a terrible way to try and like rationalize what was said because it was offensive. And a lot of people in the replies were like, yeah, you should she should actually be saying this out her account and apologizing from her account.

Because to a lot of people, it felt like, oh, I'm reading the room here and saying, OK, this group needs some soothing. here and saying okay this group needs some soothing and you know what i'm gonna use my power as first lady to do some soothing here when most people are like this is fucked up you should maybe just defend angel reese and say i think it's overblown you know she's a competitor i love to see that you know i wish i was that good well it's also just like the nature of the game it's like for a generation that really yelled at us millennials being like y'all are too soft and everyone gets a participation trophy. You really gave out the participation trophy. You really said

we're all winners today. If I was tweeting I was like, when I first thought I was like, this is the future liberals want. This is what they want. If you're the fucking Iowa team, you think your little loser visit is going to be fun? No. Everyone's going to be uncomfortable. Everyone's going to hate that. They're going to fun like it's actually bad for them everyone's

gonna hate that they're gonna stand there with the lsu team and everyone's gonna be like looking at each other like mean girls like like no one wants to be there everyone's gonna be uncomfortable including the lsu team because you know angela reese when she's like a fucking joke is what she she quote tweeted that shit so quick and people were like yep that part and even her other like other teammates were like can we party at like maybe Michelle Obama's house or something like I don't really need to go to the White House and you look and with that

one fucking you're both siding you did the thing which you didn't intend to do but you don't have the foresight to see because you're just trying to people please which is you alienated both motherfucking sides yeah except for the few people who are like that's what i love about jill biden you know what i mean she she understands she gets it she gets it and shack

is over here telling like dave portnoy that his mom is like an idiot and stuff like that so it's all it's all it's all wacky right now i was thinking like how could they even do it in a way that would make it not take away from the lsu thing we're like yeah the iowa team can be outside in the sun while the lsu team gets the tour and has like a lunch and then we could do a little garden party if y'all still feeling it uh where the iowa team will be waiting outside but they're not the regular tour that everyone else gets you know like if you go to dc and you just you go by the white house, we'll just like invite them to DC. And then, you know,

LSU can like actually be in the white house. I mean, counterpoint, do they still have that court that Obama put up in the backyard? Let's just fucking go one more game. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

Yo, let's settle this shit. You know what I mean? Fuck down. What is it? The capital one center is like where the, the main arena is. We're like,

yo, fuck it. Booking capital one right now. Let is where the main arena is. The Wizards play. We're like, yo, fuck it. Booking Capital One right now. Let's fucking go to rematch. And it's just one-on-one. Caitlyn and Angel. You know what I mean? NBA Jam rules. It should be NBA Jam rules. Yeah, no fouls. No refs. No fouls.

No refs. No fouls. On fire is allowed. Oh, yeah. And yeah, with Angel Reese coming from Baltimore, i think she'll have a little bit of heart uh in that game but no she doesn't need to play for that because you already won good for you uh but it sucks i bet like that obama court probably came down as quick as fucking jimmy carter solar panels when reagan came into office that's true you know what i mean that's true when he's like donald's like what the fuck is this get it out of my face how tall is baron now baron's like

nine feet tall do you see that shit yes he's so tall he's gangly yeah he's real gangly yeah we'll see we'll see where that goes i mean like the one picture that came out of him he was dressed exactly like his dad and like you know it's tough like when like i knew kids who like idolize their fathers who are like had a little bit of like notoriety or something and you either like are like no fuck this guy forever or you become like i want to be like him no matter what and it can be a bit of a tragic path but do you baron we're here waiting with faded breath i know people say it's not cool to make fun of a little kid but we're not making fun of him i just said he's six no no i'm making fun of him what'd you say i just will in general not not oh yeah i'm like you didn't say yeah yeah i mean in life depends fuck that kid in private in private yeah like i'll be like man i'm not gonna say this out

loud but fuck that little fucker that tall ass nazi that nazi that could dunk on me that part oh shit all right let's hit up the folks over at cbs really quick 60 minutes see a little bit of sound effects there they are taking shit also for again doing the lord's work of bringing marjorie taylor green on and just absolutely shitting the bed not being able to hold her to account and first of all they kind of presented her as someone with quote having a sharp tongue and brazen gutsiness my my my is that what we're calling it these days a sharp tongue when you say uh the parkland shooting was a false flag or brazen gutsiness when you talk about jewish space lasers okay whatever you want whatever you want um but yeah the interview seemingly sought to normalize

her with this sort of like puff piece like uh presentation that like showed her like with her kids and you know what yeah and like are her lifting weights again you know this is i get that she is a person of interest because she's in congress i don't think you'd be like yo fucking dead that don't even put her on but if you're gonna have her on you better have somebody that's willing to not just be like oh what else yeah okay yeah yeah because that really does have the effect of people not fully understanding how extreme this person and complete but anyway all that to say is leslie stall barely could rebut anything that marjorie Taylor Greene said. It was really fucking painful. It was kind of like teeth sucking at best.

Like, oh, okay. Really? To that? Then she called Marjorie Taylor Greene glib. Oh, okay. That's cool. The most pushback she got was after when she called the Democrats the party of pedophiles. Stahl was like, okay, can you go on? She's like, yeah, well,

this is what they do. They're like, sexualize children. That's what a pedophile does. And all Leslie Stahl did was go, wow. Okay. Yeah. You know what's only one more syllable? Dennis Hester. Like, this motherfucking Republican was a

straight-up child molester. Was he Speaker of the House or some shit? Are you fucking kidding? You can't be prep with with that fucking leslie stall like yeah exactly i was gonna say you couldn't be prepped with when you ask that question all the people the republican party because i mean there's more than just him matt gaze is accused of potentially of trafficking minors as well anything on that that's the party that you're in that's the man you appear on stage with at these like you know maga riot Fest speaking events that y'all do together. But again, it's just, like, really, really fucking hard to watch because you're like, man, this is the easiest shit to be like.

Even if you somehow weren't prepared, that as a human, you'd want to be like, nah, come on. What the fuck are you talking about? Like, go on. But even then, it's like, wow. Wow. Okay. Whoa, that's a spicy meatball just like say so that happened if you're gonna do if you're gonna be that weak just say so that happened like what what are you why are you there if that's all you can bring to the table i know exactly yeah then she like pressed her about like she's like you know you do a lot of

name calling and then green got really defensive and she was like i've been unjustly described as anti-semitic and a racist and then she's like i'm not calling anyone names i'm calling out the truth basically basically hello what okay whatever you don't have a follow you just read her tweets and just say are you you're saying this is not racist you're saying this is not say you're saying this is not racist. You're saying this is not racist. You're saying this is not anti-Semitic. You're literally, yeah, you're out here quote-tweeting shit that you're like, the Parkland shooting was a false flag. You're not saying

that now? I don't know. Just do some pressing, because that's the responsibility of somebody, I mean, any journalist, when you have somebody who's out here like that. It's really like, honestly, like, how lazy are the fucking, like, journalists and's out here like that, it's really like, honestly, like how lazy are the fucking like journalists and producers at 60 minutes? It's just like, are they scared? Like this is, yeah, this is shit.

You could put together in five minutes on the car ride there. Oh yeah. Tell me right now. I could prep two minutes. Yeah. Two fucking minutes. I got it. It's so wild.

It has to be a choice. And it's like pathetic. Yeah. I fucking minutes. I got it. So wild. It has to be a choice. And it's like pathetic. Yeah. I mean, yeah, just one of those things, too, where like, you know, 60 minutes has been around for fucking ages. Right. Yeah. And it feels like one of those things are like, because it's been around for ages, New York Times, like that, it's not able to actually reckon with the era that we're in. And the people that are inside are even like, oh, yeah, that that's fine.

Like, I remember even what's his face from Axios, Jonathan Swan. Remember, like he was pressing Trump fucking hard. Yeah, he was like even for, you know, not maybe going all in, like maybe we would have seen. But at the very least being like, no, no, no. Look at this paper. Like, I got it right. I have the receipts here. Please.

Any comment? Yeah. So I think that's just like very aggravating i think for me and like i think most people who are looking at it is like we need the kind of journalism that is going to make sure that these people are explaining what they have to say so people who are unaware have an actual accurate idea of what this person is saying where they stand rather than being like yeah so what she says some of those foul shit but she has kids and she likes to lift weights but she's a mom just better than a five second google search yeah yeah like it's so bizarre that this is

worse than that yeah i mean i'm googling right now like in the most infantile way bad things marjorie taylor green has said and you know there's gonna be a bunch of 9 000 listicles right there producers yeah right fucking there um and like it's so telling if you're worse than a listicle at this job i know shit for real right like please somebody help help them help them all right uh let's let's let's take a quick break uh and we'll be right back to talk some more media stuff right after this i've been thinking about you i want you back in my life it It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do.

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Happy you did. And we're back. James Patterson, you know, the author and I guess brand like at this point, like I don't even know him as a person. I'm just like, that's a word that's put on books I would never fucking buy. Or just, you know, you see them like like at like an airport bookstore and you're like, what the fuck? Like this guy still writes shit about like a robot that fucks a cop or something. Anyway, he recently penned a very angry open letter complaining that his new book, Walk the Blue Line, no right, no left, which is not propaganda. I tell you, wasn't included on the new york times bestseller list how could that fucking be he suggested that the times was quote cooking the books and pointing

out that their list didn't line up with book scan which quote compiles book sales data and lists his book a lot higher than the new york times did the times were basically saying like this is based off of our own detailed analysis of book sales from this that and the other you know brick and mortar independent and they also pointed out they're like dude this guy's been on our list literally over 4 000 times yeah what is he fucking complaining about like it was like they're sort of like what their rebuttal is like it's not that we don't have a fucking agenda against him this one just didn't hit the fucking marks. Maybe. It's like you sold a bajillion different books.

God forbid one of them wasn't that good. And also, this is a direct quote from the New York Times. We love copaganda and fucking cop dick more than anything on earth. And so the proposition that we would somehow censor this book is absurd on

its face. Yeah, right right i just yeah yeah excuse us person who's here in the room with me believe it or not we actually agree with the values of this book we just thought it was poorly written 100 i mean joseph khan who's the executive editor we he had to change his title from executive editor to coppa gandalf because that's how much he likes propaganda on here that's what we do at the new york because that's how much he likes propaganda on here. That's what we do at the New York times. That's just how we get down. But anyway, the Patterson does raise a point about the bestseller list because it is weird. Like even how they said, it's like, it's our own proprietary blend of herbs and spices, how we figure out who gets on the list

reportedly quote, no one outside the Nework times knows exactly how its best sellers are calculated and they keep their own sources a secret supposedly to like circumvent any pressure that could happen because they people learn how to game the system but we know that there is a way to game the system and the times list often it doesn't line up with book scan like they're like their rankings either so some people in publishing have suggested that a certain amount of quote-unquote curation goes into the list obviously kappa gandalf denies any wrongdoing here and some authors like do hire specific companies that actually are like yo our whole thing is we run bestseller campaigns that's what we do and we can get you on this fucking list one of the biggest companies that does this was a rebranded version of a company that

basically was like in hot water for pushing books from like the religious right onto the list. And like, oh, yeah, we're not doing that anymore. Like, even though they paid us their clients. But yeah, we're off that. And basically, he was saying the reason his book, Patterson's book, Copaganda, was off the list was basically is politically motivated because it's about cops. And he similarly complained that Mike Pompeo's book should have been higher on the list was basically he's politically motivated because it's about cops and he

similarly complained that mike pompeo's book should have been higher on the list too the book i'm sure is fucking unreadable i mean in fact i did bother to like look at james patterson's website to see how he was promoting this um also from the authors i love too because he's like basically uses ghost writers like i think most people are like this guy doesn't even fucking write the books anymore he's just like it's always with someone he's like really old now right yeah he's 74 he's fully in boom yeah what 74 year olds writing full-ass books a lot of people are i mean but they probably put a little more like thought into it not like this guy who's just shitting out like love letters to the police

state but yeah there's like this excerpt from it I'm just going to read this. This is how this book, the vibe is. This one is called Tim O'Brien. Tim O'Brien was working in the mortgage industry. When at 30, he decided to become a police officer. I approached the car and say, do you know why I pulled you over? The guy behind the wheel doesn't know what to say. It's 6 a.m. and he's dressed for work. I was speeding, he asks. No. Are my stickers expired? No. Are my taillights out? No. Are my stickers expired? No. Are my taillights out? No. License and registration, please.

One of the essentials of police work is learning to use your discretion when you can and can't arrest someone. When you can write a ticket or write a warning. I run the guy's name through the computer. And it goes on about how this guy's like, he lets someone off with a warning, and he's like, that's how I look at policing. It's not about arresting every single guy.

And that's like the nuance, even though it might get you in trouble with blah blah blah and it's like the most dull thing i've ever read but it sounds like that poor man didn't deserve to be pulled over and that you were probably pulling him over because you were bored at six a.m yeah did you describe the man you pulled over i don't know but anyway yeah exactly it's not it's not important not relevant not relevant not relevant not relevant anyway and like it goes on to then talk about how this guy has kids or whatever it's like i can't believe even someone thinks like from the excerpt i read that this is spellbinding no yeah it reads like text messages to somebody telling you about their day and then like here's

something too like jim pascoe who we heard a lot of from the he's for the executive director of the national fraternal order of police he's also coppa gandalf too is his title he said walk the blue line is the book that law enforcement community has been waiting for these stories showcase the courage the hurt the anger and the joy that can be found in every officer's dna they're not sure so like also telling on yourself that this whole open letter should have been an email to his publicist. Hey, this just means his publishing company didn't choose to spend the same amount of money on him as they did last time.

Yeah. And like, that's sad for you, my dude, that's not sad for the whole world. Cause yeah, New York times can be bought and sold. So when they weren't bought and sold, that's on you, sort of. Yeah, exactly.

Do better. Don't ask Joe Biden to invite you to the cookout now. Come on now. Go back in the lab and start lifting those wrist weights and write something better, Jimmy. And to his point, right? People game the fucking system. Like that Mike Pompeo book, it debuted at number three

on the bestseller list because his fucking pack spent 42 grand on a bulk order of books. Same thing happened with Doju, Donald Trump Jr.'s book. Yeah, there's so many books. There's so many people

who know authors that have bulk sales so they could be on the New York Times. And they, in theory, flag them. I heard that there's like, if you look at it, there's like a people who know authors that have bulk sales so they could be on the new york time like and they in theory flag them like i heard that there's like if you look at it there's like a little yeah so it shows like oh well you know suspicious activity and it's like then why you even put on the list if you are recognizing the suspicious activity right exactly you know what i mean like if you know they hit all them home runs off steroids then maybe we though those don't

count yeah maybe we don't put on the list but whatever do you because that's how this industry works hand in hand with it all i mean yeah the donald trump jr book the fucking rnc spent over 94 000 by trying to prop that shit up to get it on the fucking list and like you said there is the dagger there but they all get on the list and other books that have basically used the same practice releases from judge janine pierro or mark levin and ben shapiro like which again it gives people the idea that you're like oh people are fucking like want to hear what they say but that's just a fucking you know presentational trick to get people to be like oh okay maybe it's worth buying because the thing is when you get on that list reportedly you can increase sales by like 57

because people just sort of like people critically look at it and they're like oh yeah great great great great great oh i gotta buy this you know what you know what new york times bestseller list is that shit is just twitter blue for books oh my god there it is there it is there it is thank you thank you james patterson for pointing that out, but thank you, Andrew T., for bringing that shit home. Exactly. It's exactly what it is, and we don't have, we barely have any scripts we can run to find out what's what, unless it has a

dagger, you know? But, Andrew, thank you so much, man, for joining us today on the Daily Zeitgeist, man. It's always a pleasure really looking out for 23andT, ChatGPT, all that. I will give you my tna and i don't mean that as tna but i mean ti nucleic acid uh and yes again where can people find you follow you and and all that and what's the tweet or some internet i mean don't come at me on twitter

if you got twitter blue because you're already blocked uh and uh yeah i guess mostly what i got going on these days is we're trying to, we're doing shit. Registrek is coming up, so we're trying to do shit on the premium side of Yo! Is This Racist? That's Suboptimal Pods. Check it out. We think it's fun. There's a new episode of Dale Dudes, which is the

podcast where Matt Apodaca and I do a watch-along slash other talk about a five to six minute episode of Chippendale park life, which does not have words. I want to stress the audience is what? I mean,

I would guess it's for kids that don't speak yet. Right. It's more for my dog than for me. My dog will be taking down mayor max. If I don't know. Obviously. Also hashtag mayor max is canceled. Watch me get that shit trending.

I'm using all AI fucking attack ads. Dog smear campaign. I can't. This is... I can't wait. Even though I've become a father, somehow I've become more petty. I don't know what...

I thought you were supposed to mature out of that shit. No, I think you have time to be petty now. You know what it is? Yeah, right. Go of that. No, I think you have time to be petty now. Like, you know what it is. Yeah. Right. Go on.

What do you think? In the wee hours when you're like trying to put this kid to bed, that's, that's where the pettiness build. Yeah. Cause what I do is my exhaustion. I turn that into a frustration that I direct at someone like, like a dog mare.

So I could, and I use that to power me through the night and being like, just being like, yeah, wait, just wait, mare max. Yeah yeah let me throw this out there i would guess like pettiness is probably a better pettiness as long as you're like you know just doing shit like smearing a dog mayor or something yeah like it's better than letting it just build it to road rage or whatever the fuck

you know wait other people wait so mayor how many mayor Max's are there? Mayor Max is a, a second. Yeah. Max is a nepotism. You know, look, I, I'm not saying it's essentially like a monarchy up there,

but it's not a good look when the two mayors are father and son. The last two. Wow. Wow. Fucking nepo baby in office. I, the fucking ads, Andrew, they write their fucking selves right now. We're going to take this motherfucker down. I'm calling my past like political operative homies.

I'm like, hey, one last job, man. One last job. We taking Mayor Max the fuck down. And we putting in a new puppet government that's run remotely from Los Angeles. I love it uh is there any tweets or anything that you like yeah actually in all my uh blocking spree there's a tweet from zach budrick and it's a photo from the like got milk campaign of alex trebek um with with you know milk mustache and the line is your bones may be in jeopardy and the tweet caption is imagine seeing this ad and not knowing who alex trebek was which is fucking terrifying recontextualized oh my god your bones may be in jeopardy

what the fuck are you talking about? Excuse me. That is a menacing threat though, I will say. Wow, wow, wow, wow. Becca Ramos, thank you for being here as well. What is a tweet that you like? And also where can people find you and follow you and all that?

You can find me and follow me at Bex Ramos, B-E-C-C-S-R-A-M-O-S on all platforms. And I'm at Memlundos every other Saturday. So this Saturday in Bushwick, get your books from Queer Latinx Local Businesses. There it is. My tweet, or really it's a TikTok. I'm going to put it in the chat, Myles, if you want to share it.

But it is from Homo Honey Zero. it but it is from homo honey zero and it is this person who is showing their mom all of these celebrities that she simply cannot name correctly she is just so wrong in almost every single one okay this hold on so this first one the first one is uh drake drake julia roberts that was kim Drake. Drake. Julia Roberts. That was Kim Kardashian. Is it Debbie LaVon? Kardashian family member. That is Anne Hathaway. The movie Emma. That's M3. Is it Emma?

That's a doll, miss. Ellen. Ellen. Is it Ellen or Emma? That's a doll. That's very good. I love that. I love.

That's my favorite. She's looking at a fucking doll. Okay, look, we'll put that in the footnotes so y'all can see the video, too. I just love. I love when parents are like so like confidently wrong. That is my favorite kind of TikTok content. It's like, yeah. Anyway, you can find me at Miles of Gray on Twitter and Instagram.

You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We got a Facebook fan page and a website DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnote. Thank you, Becca. And, you know, the song that we write out on today, we were joking off Mike, Becca and I, because we were talking about, you know, Rosalia

and, you know, her reggaeton adventures and how a lot of people are like, okay, hold on, you're coming all the way from Spain, but, you know, taking the vibes from over here, but okay, you're making it work, but a lot of people were like, okay, you're coming all the way from Spain, but taking the vibes from over here. But okay, you're making it work. But a lot of people were looking sideways at her. But now, she's got an album out with her I don't even know her fiancé.

Her new fiancé. Raúl Alejandro. Who is a Puerto Rican star and the future of the game. Yeah, people can't stop. They want to be Boricua so bad. They say, we got to recolonize Puerto Rico. They're like, no, man. I got to be. I got to have a spice we got to recolonize puerto rico they're like no man i gotta be i gotta have a spice of torriquena you know yeah that's what she wanted she's about to say she's tiny i get it yeah well this is she put an album out i didn't realize until becca was like no that's

her fiance and i was like oh this is like some reggaeton game of thrones shit yeah she said colonize 2.0 she said i'm gonna make sure that Vivo Latino interview I did means Vivo Latino. Right. I know. She starts. She's saying, wepa yet or no? She's going to be at the wedding. She's going to be like, wepa.

Wepate. You're like, no, no, no. Hold on. Hold on. Anyway, so this track is called Vampiros. This shit is good. I'm sure it's good. No, I get it.

Look, I fuck with the music. First and foremost. The other stuff, the cultural nuances, I'm aware of them, but I still fuck with the music. This track is called Vampiros, and it's Rosalia and Raul Alejandro together. Really good production on it. It's very dark. And that's why I like their music, because they're looking ahead. Yeah, they are.

And that's what a lot of their music sounds like. So always like that. So you can check that out there. Obviously, this show is a production of iHeartRadio. So for more podcasts, get the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, wherever you get your favorite shows. That's going to do it for this episode. We'll be back later to tell you what's trending later on today. So we'll see you then.

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