The Daily Zeitgeist - Coronavirus Whistleblower, Bagelrito? Bagelrito! 3.2.20

Episode Date: March 2, 2020

In episode 580, Jack and Miles are joined by our wonderful writer J.M. McNab to discuss Tom Steyer performing with Juvenile, Trump's coronavirus conspiracy theory, a new whistleblower out of the Human Health Services department, Biden surging in South Carolina, the bagelrito, The Invisible Man, and more!FOOTNOTES: Watch Tom Steyer Dance to Juvenile’s ‘Back That Azz Up’ Performance at South Carolina Rally Here’s Trump at his rally tonight in South Carolina dismissing worries about the coronavirus as the “new hoax” Whistleblower Claims Retaliation After Alleging Reckless Coronavirus Response Election Update: Biden Surges In South Carolina The Bagelrito is a literal hot mess, but it has a confidence you can only dream of With The Invisible Man, Horror Is Starting to Get #MeToo Right ‘Invisible Man’ Male Director Asked Elisabeth Moss to Correct His Script, Ensure Female POV Can Universal Create a Marvel-Like Universe With 'The Mummy' and Other Monster Flicks? WATCH: Hiatus Kaiyote - The Lung Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and say officially off the top fuck the coke brothers and fuck fox news it's Monday, March 2nd, 2020. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Great Sweat Spectations, a.k.a. John Dies at the Trend, a.k.a. Wuthering Zites, a.k.a. The Great Jacksby, a.k.a. The Catcher in O'Bri, a.k.a. A Tale of Two Litty, a.k.a. A Portrait of the Artist Has the Numb Hands. a tale of two liddy, a.k.a. a portrait of the artist has the numb hands. That is courtesy of just TDZAK

as I would have also accepted a portrait of the artist has the dumb hands. As a hung man. As a hung man. Also works. And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray! Oh, it's Miles Gray.

Thank you to everybody in the wonderful city of Toronto for making my AKA of Smokey Weed with Miles Gray. Come true. Come true. The offerings of smoked meats, blunts, biscuits, everything. Smoked meat for Miles Gray. Oh, my goodness.

We'll never. I think I might just have to. We just peaked. Oh, my goodness. We'll never. I think I might just have to. We just peaked. Smuggle my way back into Ontario. But, yeah, what a show. What a time. What a show. What a time in Canada.

24 hours. And speaking of our time in Canada, we are thrilled to be joined in our Toronto hotel room. This is a big moment, y'all. Bye. In our Toronto hotel room. This is a big moment, y'all. But you know him as our writer, J.M. McNabb, because that's his name. He is Mr. J.M. McNabb!

Hey, hey guys. What's up, man? Not too much. Thanks for having me. Yeah, thanks for being here, man. So great to see you in person. Full disclosure, I have never met you physically. No.

I had never met you physically. until last night or a few nights ago so this is all very I've been working with you for like 7 years I feel like I know yeah it's crazy we've talked on the phone lots of times but to be here in person in a hotel room with the drapes closed is a whole other experience I don't know why Jack's wearing tissue boxes on his feet

but I guess that's the vibe he's creating The nails are grown out Suddenly I'm peeing in jars Did Howard Hughes die mysteriously? I don't think so Or it wasn't publicized?

He lived a mysteriously long time But he went into the chat Completely retreated I didn't he? Yeah, I think he was flying around like it wouldn't land. I think regardless of how he died, people would be like, that makes sense. Yeah. Great. Yeah.

Well, everything I know about Howard Hughes is informed by Mr. Burns in that one episode of The Simpsons. Yeah. You didn't see the aviator? No. Huh. Because it didn't look anything like Mr. Burns' depiction from The Simpsons. It's the wave of the future.

It's the wave of the future. Wave of the future. Wave of the future. He started saying that. Although I did, I've done events at the hangar where he was building the Hercules. Yeah. That was dope. That's like now just a relic in LA where they just throw parties because it's like, look

Was it a made up hangar? Like, did they invent it for the, did they build it for the movie, or? No, no, no, this was like the actual where, Oh, the actual hangar where he built it. And now people are like, it's the hangar from the aviator. Exactly. Where's the restroom?

Well, here are several jars. Right, yeah. Well, JM, it's great to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about, from the end of last week, we didn't get a chance to discuss the fact that Tom Steyer knows you can't stand it, dick bandit, Dunn landed all over your

planet. We're going to talk about Trump's coronavirus, using the word hoax in relation to the fact that people are being critical of his handling. We're going to talk about a new whistleblower. We're going to talk about how Bernie is... So we're, full disclosure, we don't know the outcome of the South Carolina primary as of this recording because we're in Canada and news travels slowly across the border. So we don't know what happened yet in the South Carolina primary. But I did want to talk about the fact that Bernie's win in Nevada caused Biden to surge.

FiveThirtyEight had an interesting article about that. So we'll talk about that. And then we're going to talk about something I know we'll get to, the bagel-rito, which is a bagel burrito. And I want to talk to you. It's not just a clever name. Yeah, it's not just a clever name. And then I want to talk to you about the Invisible Man.

Yes. You saw it. I did. Which I didn't even know was possible to see the Invisible Man. But dad joke for you all. Dad. Hey, it. I did. Which I didn't even know was possible to see the Invisible Man. But dad joke for you all. Dad. Hey, I'm on fire. But Jam.

No, seriously, put me out. All right. It's been great. Jam, first we like to ask our guests, what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay. Well, I wanted to talk about something kind of Canadian with you guys. And I had something in the back of my mind that I remember someone saying that I never investigated.

So I searched the other day, was Jack the Ripper Canadian? Oh. Because I thought someone told me that at a party or something. Huh. someone told me that at a party or something huh it was uh and i looked it up and there is like a guy that some people think could have been jack the ripper who was he was born in scotland but he was raised in canada and he was educated here became a doctor and he was eventually arrested and uh executed in england for for poisoning women. But the reason,

the main reason why they think he was Jack the Ripper is because as they were hanging him in public, just before, you know, the trap door opened and he hung, he said, I am Jack! And then he hung to death. Oh, wow. And he was strangled.

So he never got to finish it. But people, based on that account that said that's what he said, wonder if he was going to confess to the Jack the Ripper killings. Now, there's a few. He was going to say, I am Jack's dull life and quote Fight Club. Yeah. He was a big Fight Club fan. Yeah.

His name wasn't Jack. No, his name was Thomas Cream. Oh, yeah. Which sounds made up, but I assure you it's true. Tom Cream wasn't Jack. No, his name was Thomas Cream. Oh, yeah. Which sounds made up, but I assure you it's true. Tom Cream. Tom Cream. I like that. And the only sort of hiccup in the story is he was in-

He was jacking off, as he said. I am jacking off. And so people were like, oh. Well, you say that as a joke, but one of the theories as to what he might have been saying, one of his biographers said that he thinks he may have, in that moment of strangulation, lost control of his body functions. And he might have actually been saying, I'm ejaculating. Oh, hey. Wow. Which is like an extra layer of ickiness.

Oh, look, he's Jack. No one really wins in this, whatever the truth is here. But he was in jail during some of the killings in London, so we don't really think he was Jack the Ripper. Would that be a point of pride to say Jack the Ripper was Canadian? I wonder, yeah. Like, I wonder if we would lose our politeness cred if it was like Jack the Ripper.

If everyone had that in their subconscious, like, got that in us yeah yeah i feel like it would definitely make canada like a little bit i don't know dangerous a little edgy yeah yeah but it's kind of like balanced out by like martin short yeah also a national treasure what is something you think is overrated overrated i'm gonna say texting texting okay because it just occurred to me the other day that when i was a kid the big thing was like video phones like i remember seeing video phones like radio shack for a thousand dollars or oh yeah you know in movies there's always video phones and it just occurred to me that we're always constantly sending each other like electronic telegraphs basically right me that we're always constantly sending each other electronic telegraphs, basically.

Right. Just because we're too anxious to actually see each other face-to-face or talk to each other. If you just randomly FaceTimed a friend, they would call the police. Yeah. I would just be like, what is wrong with them right now? If it's not a family member, I only expect FaceTimes. I know when to expect a facetime not even like outside of a hey facetime me like certain time like my birthday if i get it from an aunt or something

fine like i get that out of the blue from like a like a friend from high school i'm like what the fuck is this yeah man or what how are you trying to invade my life at the moment i have butt faced time to people before that's way more embarrassing than butt dialing people yeah but you do that yeah you just sit on your phone like you literally were just setting it off i don't think it was yeah i think it was in my pocket and then i think one time my one year old uh had my phone and like facetimed somebody and yeah it was like oh hey sorry that's like a really awkward thing sorry my baby's trying to communicate with you uh but yeah i i definitely prefer facetiming i've facetimed my family all the time from from the road you know yeah uh turn the page man we're just a couple road dogs i know man

just never know these kids grow up so damn quick, man. You know what I mean? You're basically living the lives of like old vaudevillians. Yes. You know? You're this duo traveling from town to town. Yeah, exactly. Spinning yarns. And our act is, you know, very physical.

A lot of physical comedy. A lot of pratfalls. Yeah. That straw hat you wear on stage. Yeah. A lot of tumbling. Yeah, Anna comes out with the old hook When you do a dad joke

I mean, it's all very well scripted Yeah, you guys missed it If you missed out, you really missed out What is something you think is underrated? Underrated, the first thing that came to mind for me Was, you guys remember the show American Vandal? Yeah

The Netflix show? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah It's crazy to say it's underrated because it won a Peabody Award. Did it really? Yeah. It won a Peabody Award for media or something. It's a legitimately great show that you

never hear about. I looked into it. It was only cancelled by Netflix because Netflix didn't own it outright. Another studio produced it. Right, right, right. And they started making their content that they owned 100% so they could use it for all time forever.

So I don't know. It's just kind of a bummer. It was a really good show. Was season two great? I saw the first episode and I was like, all right, I really liked the first season rather than the second season. What happened in season two? Wasn't that all laxative?

Season two is even better. Yeah, it's a laxative. It's called the brownout, where basically someone spikes the school's juice supply with laxatives. Same school? No, different school. The school basically hires the kids to go. The same kids who solved the first mystery. And also, in the world of the show, like the first

season was a hit documentary series on Netflix. So they have all this money and clout now. So they reenact things with computer graphics. Oh, right. Next level. Yeah. So you said season two is even better than season one? I think it is. Wow. And it actually tries to

say something. Great. Yeah. I love when one of our underrateds actually gives us like something to go do. This is great. Yeah. And if actually tries to say something. Great. Yeah. I love when one of our underrateds actually gives us something to go do. This is great. Yeah. And if you haven't seen American Vandal and you like true crime and comedy, you should watch it. Because it threads the needle perfectly. For something so dumb.

The first season is like, who drew all these dicks on shit? Who was it? Right. And just the process of elimination of treating that so seriously. And some of the characters are so real. Just so balls on. Just completely accurate. Balls on, literally.

Finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false, sir? I wanted to throw out another kind of Canadian-centric thing. What would you guys guess is Canada's national sport hockey right you'd think that curling no uh well it's kind of hockey but historically it was always lacrosse the cross which yeah this translates as lacrosse uh no lacrosse was the national game until the 60s when some guy in parliament decided that it should be hockey.

So he introduced a bill to legally make hockey the national sport. Oh, hell yeah. And then apparently there was like a lacrosse lobby that got pissed off about this. So they got another member of parliament to introduce a bill to make lacrosse the legal national sport. And apparently this is a thing that happened it was a a big deal and they kind of negated each other and nothing happened until the 90s when someone made it law that lacrosse could be the national summer game and hockey could be the national winter game wow so it's it's kind of lacrosse kind of they kind of

gave hockey a bit of it in the end. Are there like general political associations? Like in America, you know, football tends to have like sort of a right-leaning political. Baseball more than football. Baseball also has like sort of a right-leaning thing. And then the NBA is more center--left technocrat liberal i feel like yeah uh and then uh i don't know what's leftist what's a leftist sport uh chess yeah yeah so is lacrosse still popular though like is it no no it has been played here for decades there are like leagues i think but not on the same scale.

Or hockey. No, no. It's a weird kind of technicality. Lacrosse is weird in America, too. It's kind of randomly distributed. It's huge in New England, I feel like. It's big in New England, but it's really big in the DC, Maryland, Baltimore area. It's huge right in that region.

Right, right. And then there's some places out west where it's really big, that like region right right and then there's like some places out west where it's really big but it just seems kind of like yeah it's been evangelized to some places I play because like I knew a lot of kids when I played competitive hockey that would me who lived in the east coast they were like well when it's not cold we're all playing lacrosse because it's sort of similar not skill sets but just sort of tactically similar things. But I tried playing once, and I was really bad with the stick, whatever the fuck you call that thing.

And I was like, man, fuck this. I'll go back to hockey. Yeah. Your sticking game wasn't, you weren't sticking. Bro, I just, you know, you should see me out there on the ice. Nimble sticker. Fucking wrist shots from the blue line, pal. Wow. Yeah, that's how on point my wrist shot was. You did go out for there on the ice. Nimble sticker. Fucking wrist shots from the blue line, pal. Wow.

Yeah, that's how on point my wrist shot was. You did go out for a rip last night. Out for a rip, dude. Yeah. How are you, bud? That was a great time. Yeah. Oh, shout out to the couple from Sudbury, too.

Shout out to everybody who came to the show. Sudbury was in the building. What a great crowd. Montreal was in the building. Sorry, guys. We're still high off the show last night. What a crowd 330 people

Yeah, it was a lot of people They were rowdy Everyone's been rowdy They were amazing It was like a rock concert They were honestly I mean, Miles and I have seen a million faces And we have rocked them all, bro.

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that was the closest I've ever seen to reality matching up with the part at the end of Rosemary's Baby where she's like drugged and keeps like looking up and like seeing these like snapshots from like a party of Satanists. Do you know that part? Uh-huh, yes. Yeah, that's what this evoked in my mind, because it was a juvenile concert. They were performing Back That Ass Up,

and the camera just kept panning from juvenile over to Tom Steyer, I think Tom Steyer's wife, and one of his staffers, or his daughter, I don't know, Steyer's wife and one of his staffers or his daughter, I don't know, dancing on stage badly but with complete abandon. And it just seemed like a complete fucking fever dream nightmare. Yeah. I mean, apparently there was nice food there.

There was a charcuterie station. Really? Yeah, and like pulled pork paninis a full potato bar right it was just like opulent yeah i mean i'm not against it i i root for the satanists some rosemary's baby i'm team satan this but they just want a baby just seeing i don't even know what to fucking think man just tom Steyer awkwardly Being like I'm hip hopping everybody Right yeah He was definitely dancing like a politician Like he kept like pointing to the crowd

Like politicians always do But that was like part of his dance routine It would be funny if his like wife just started busting it open on stage Oh man And they're like what Okay Tom Steyer Whoever that woman was on stage And juvenile Okay I didn't realize uh

he's styer gang too dude secure the bag man yeah yeah of course like just just secure the bag professional right he didn't even look like he was out there you know just having a party for this billionaire's election yeah he was just thinking about the speedboat yeah that party would get him right right right he's like keep your eye on the prize it was hard to watch it felt like if someone had granted my self-consciousness sentience right it would be tom steyer dancing at that concert right right right it was just like every that like that's why i don't dance yeah because that's what plays in my head when i picture myself dancing right yeah you can't dance like nobody's watching you like that that he felt like he was dancing like everybody was watching and he just like had

was fully aware of that which is how i uh always feel i mean i like i think you know he was like okay joe biden got jim cliburn to come out for him and endorse him yeah get juvenile right well this is this was a big uh race for steyer right he had kind of put all his eggs in the nevada and south carolina baskets yeah so uh we'll see once the news reaches canada how how uh that race went for him it's gonna be a couple years now i'm just curious if he realizes that juvenile is not from south carolina he's a nolia boy from new orleans so uh but hey you know uh so coronavirus stuff i feel like uh you know it's probably not the most fun story to hear us tracking because it's just scary and depressing and nothing we can do about it.

And also we probably have it because we've been traveling nonstop. I keep seeing these stories where people are like, yeah, people cutting back on domestic travel and international travel. And companies aren't sending people anywhere anymore. We've been on planes every other fucking day we've spent like half our time over the past week on planes uh yeah i don't know i feel okay though we've been we've just been destroying ourselves with uh vitamin c and greasy food which helps and washing washing my hands and prayer. And prayer. And prayer. Yeah, we hold hands together, just Miles and I. The way we pray.

Holding both hands. Let's lick our palms and put them together. But anyways, Trump is keeping things interesting at a South Carolina rally. He let everyone know what's actually going on with the coronavirus. It's just a lie by the democrats to smear him kind of was the implication it's a fucking hoax y'all um good news then yeah that's

great exactly just god that would be great i mean again listen to his words and tell me if this doesn't you know get you to completely realize oh yeah this is probably of course of course now the democrats are politicizing the coronavirus you know that right coronavirus that's funny they're politicizing politicizing we did one of the great jobs you say how's president trump doing they go oh not good not good they have no clue they don't have any clue they can't even count their votes in iowa they can't even count ah no they can't you're burnt you're burnt democrats okay so the world health organization experts all over the world no just everyone is like this is a problem they're politicizing it

yeah uh okay you're doing a i like it goes we did one of the great jobs yeah one of the great jobs i wonder maybe that'll be his like mission accomplished banner we did one of the great jobs we did great jobs so there's that yeah and then it ends with an own yeah with it with a complete own uh this is just it's that news is hitting as you know we're starting to see cases of unknown origins popping up in multiple states. When you read into it, that means that these are people who are getting it who haven't traveled and they don't know who they got it from. There's nobody they were in contact with that they know of who had traveled. It's just out there now yeah like people are just getting it yeah and it's just a hoax y'all i do like that uh it seems like trump has fully become

the mayor from jaws at this point oh my god yeah it was just like that there's no problem. The economy is doing great. Keep doing what you're doing. And there's apparently a new whistleblower. Yeah, because we got another whistleblower. This one out of Health and Human Services. And this one is basically after seeing how HHS officials were sent to sent to wuhan to like uh get americans basically out of the city um and these people from hhs were not given protective gear and were not subsequently tested for the virus so they said yeah go to sick town right meet the sick people and bring them on back but i don't know just bring them back we don't know what's going on it's probably maybe here's some hand sanitizer nah nah nah nah I don't know. Just bring them back. We don't know what's going on. It's probably fine. Maybe here's some hand sanitizer.

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. You don't need that, actually. No. So this person who works in the Administration for Children and Families, sort of specifically at subdivision, apparently the officials from the department retaliated against her by reassigning her. And she claims that she was told that if she didn't accept her new position

by like March 5th or something, that she would just be fired. Yeah. I mean, it's an active cover-up already. Yeah. Like already, like not even that far into the crisis. And it's an active cover-up. And it's happening kind of on every level. Like there was a health official who was booked on every weekend

like morning show and pence made him cancel it all right because yeah it's they're just completely in information lockdown uh this is all about controlling the image that but they don't even have control of that at this point like everything's out there people are like just reading the complaints. The other allegations are that the Americans who are coming back from Wuhan were like, there's Travis Air Force Base in Fairfield, California, March Air Reserve Base in Riverside, that those people were greeted by HHS officials and who like they may have been left without protection against coronavirus transmission

as they receive these people and then those people the employees of hhs took commercial flights around the country and we're just staying in hotels yeah yeah it's just like there's nothing at all that they did right and they were saying that even then uh even when they talk about how they handled not just the administration but in general the cruise ship that was docked if they had actually evacuated people from the ship a lot sooner that there would have been a lot less cases of people uh get like getting the illness so it's all very comforting i mean we've been just bathing in the shit stream of news for the past three years and there have been like a couple stories where i've involuntarily like said out loud oh my god and that happened twice this morning right when i got to the part

where it was like and they just sent them around on commercial flights and then the hoax thing it's like you read about how bad things are like all these signs that it's about to hit like an inflection point. And then Trump is describing it as a hoax. Like it's literally just like things out of movies about a botched like how we just have the worst possible. You know, this is the thing that we were worried about where, you know, we kept being like, yeah, but what if trump like was president during something that was actually important that mattered it required like not sort of uh his contempt for experts right like this is that moment yeah absolute contempt for the people who like are trying to get this thing under control right putting in people who believe in like hardcore religion and pseudoscience yeah to like run point

and his contempt for people who are poor is gonna come in his contempt for people who are brown is gonna come in his his racism like it's all gonna come in now because like all all of the different you know biases like that affect how he interacts with reality are going to, are going to come out and be a part of how this event unfolds. I think it also, it affects, you know, how he, how he plays the game, because he uses fear so much. Right. If people are afraid of the coronavirus, he's not going to be able to, like, stoke up fear for a migrant caravan, or, you know, he's not able to control the, the mass hysteria in the way that he's not going to be able to like stoke up fear for a migrant caravan or, you know,

he's not able to control the, the mass hysteria in the way that he's used to. Well, he's going to be able, he's going to use this to, to make people afraid of migrant caravans, I think. Like, I think, I think this will eventually, I mean, usually like illnesses, I mean, it's already causing racism. Like my wife and mother-in-law were both like you know telling me they feel self-conscious just like sneezing in public because you know of how people yeah they're korean and people just generally are uh like that's already a like part of how people perceive this event. And it's going to it's going to keep happening and it's going to get worse.

Well, the other thing is like on Fox News, they have been taking the orders from the president and downplaying and mitigating like how bad this could be to their viewers, which skew older. Right. how bad this could be to their viewers, which skew older. Right. And the older people, as we've seen, are probably the most vulnerable to the effects of the virus. Yeah.

And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. How do they think that's going to end up too? Hopefully, we can get to a point where it doesn't get so terrible and people are sort of in total mass hysteria and the transmission of the virus has gone out of control. But, you know, they're actively telling people things like that is dangerous for them.

Yeah. You know, like they should be like, yeah, you know what? Maybe protect yourself a little bit rather than being like, you know how many coronavirus deaths in the US? Zero. OK, Trump's got it under control, baby. Lick all the doorknobs in town. Right. You're good.

Yeah. I mean, I stopped licking doorknobs as soon as I heard this news. What self-control? I've been saying, you're a hero. Because I can't stop, personally. But, I mean, that's just me. All right. Let's talk briefly, even though the South Carolina primary news hasn't reached us up here.

I do want to talk about something that happened in the polls that FiveThirtyEight wrote about at the end of last week that is somewhat unprecedented, or at least they didn't have a precedent for it. But so Bernie had a decisive victory in Nevada, the first state that was actually had a diverse demographic. People, you know, the media at first was like, well, this is going to be like a thing now. This is he's the front runner. He's the clear front runner. But the media also was freaking out. And so was the DNC. was freaking out and so was the dnc and it actually caused biden to surge and sanders polls to plummet his win like hurt his polls which has like never been a thing that happens so it's like in which poll what polls exactly did it affect like all so 538 just does a blended average of all the polls and South Carolina

Sanders was surging Biden was dropping Sanders won Nevada and so bad Nevada and sorry but so and then Biden started surging and Sanders started dropping like a stone now it's uh sanders has a like one in 30 chance of winning in south carolina and biden has a 97 chance and you know a lot of people were like well biden had a he overperformed by having a solid debate um and they were like and he also got that endorsement. But they were saying that actually when you look at when the surge happened, it was when Sanders won in Nevada. So it was the media reaction.

It was the DNC reaction. It was just like the public's reaction to Sanders winning. It makes sense. like the public's reaction to Sanders winning was... That seems... I mean, I think some people... It makes sense. Yeah, are still of the belief or whatever, buy into whatever perceived threat his presidency could be. Yeah.

And that shows when you have things like that and sort of how impressionable people are. The other thing interesting too is there was a few researchers actually were studying the effects of like 538 on the 2016 election. Yeah. And how it may have actually depressed voter turnout because they were being like, it's going to be a fucking blizz-o out. Yeah.

Like, don't worry about it. And a lot of people were like, oh, that created a lot of overconfidence in voters. I think, yeah. I would say the New York Times more than 538. It's all together, baby. Yeah, it's all together. I think it's all, I mean, because the fact is it's the, just the sort of reliance on polling data too helps, you know. Yeah.

I mean, I get it. It helps give people a snapshot of what's happening in time. But I think, again, I think a lot of the lesson most people learned anyway out of there was like, yes, we understand what the polls are saying, too. Right. But it can work in every direction. Yeah, I think definitely the media coverage of polling in 2016. I just think FiveThirtyEight does like a pretty scientific blended average of the polls, whereas like the New York Times was just like it's 99 chance hillary wins 538 was one of the only places that was like no it's actually pretty close do you remember that on election day watching

that those numbers start going yeah uh yeah it was wild yeah i like that was yeah it's like traumatic anyways so uh the thing that is most likely the the most likely thing uh in their blended average of overall outcomes uh now up at 50 chance of happening is that nobody gets the majority and then it's a uh brokered convention broker convention in which case that like i think sanders only chance now is getting a majority out, right? Because... I mean, there are... Michael Bloomberg is working on superdelegates. There are people working on superdelegates.

Yeah. If there has to be a second vote. Yeah. And it's... Yeah. It's anybody's guess what the fuck the DNC would do. Dude, I'm telling you right now, it ain't going to be Elizabeth Warren either. No.

The fucking people they're talking about is Michael Bloomberg or like Michelle like michelle obama like they're in fantasy world yeah yeah like they don't want they can't have anybody who's going to do anything remotely disruptive to the billionaire like elite class yeah absolutely not like if it goes to a broker convention like i think biden is the best we could hope for like it's honestly like who fucking knows yeah or they or these people really think bloomberg i have no fucking clue what could happen yeah it's gonna be interesting i mean we'll begin to see as as time goes on like what what they're trying what kind of weather balloons are sending up but my goodness like didn't they mention kamala harris too yeah there were a few people who said

that really yeah there are people who like i mean, there were a few people who said that Really? There were all kinds of names going out there But I think what it came down to Is that They're going to figure something else out If it comes down to it And one of the people that was in that New York Times article Who was one of the super delegates This guy William Owen

He is one of the people Who contributes to like republicans he's like a former health uh uh health care lobbyist who like backed mitch mcconnell uh-huh this is guy like one of the dudes like being like yeah we gotta we gotta stop sanders of course an ex-health care lobbyist yeah he's not gonna pick elizabeth Warren either he's gonna pick fucking whoever probably Bloomberg it seems like the most likely outcome is like

the death of any political will on behalf of like anybody under the age of 40 everyone's just gonna be so I mean not everyone but the people who are who became interested, motivated about politics over the past, you know, five years are just going to be totally checked out. Or it'll be like a cause of revolution.

But yeah, I mean, here's the deal, man. If they do that shit, it's straight up class warfare at that point it's like you have the fucking people who are deciding whoever they want and for them to just intervene like that to put the interest aside of people like working people's you know rights needs and things like that it's clearly showing hey we have the fucking power at the end of the day yeah you can you know you can vote and rally and shit but at the end of the day like we set this system up so like we're gonna we're gonna fucking keep it moving the same way it's been moving yeah i mean we read that new york times article at the end of last week that just covered the you know the delegates planning to who were like we've got to stop sanders as just like yeah of course that's what they're doing

and just like par for the course as opposed to yeah this is class warfare you will start a class war like you will end your party's viability forever probably but instead it was just like yeah and so uh there we found uh intense opposition yeah it's like yeah okay that's not from within our bubble right it's just yeah it's such a bubble that they don't they don't have any concept of how uh toxic and bad that would be yeah and i think whoever like no matter who you support you need to look at this situation and understand what these people at the at that at that level are thinking and fighting what they want to keep away from you what they want to keep away from you. What they want to take away from you. So yeah, we're fucked. We'll see. We'll see.

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Okay, so that's an American company. But essentially, it's exactly what you think. It's a burrito. It's a bagel. It's everything you need. The way they describe it, the Bagelrito is the latest breakfast innovation from Einstein Bros Bagels.

Substantial in size and high in flavor, it's loaded with two cage-free eggs, thick-cut bacon, turkey sausage, three cheeses, hash brown, salsa, and green chiles in a flour tortilla. It looks like the filling of this burrito just looks like what you would push out of an artery of somebody who just died of a it looks like an artery it doesn't even look like a photograph it looks like a salvador dolly

painting or something it's so like surreal yeah yeah um and it's all all hand-wrapped in asiago bagel dough and baked fresh it's substantial size high, and portability has earned its slogan, big, bold, and easy to hold. Yeah. Now, the reviews have actually been good. Really? Yes. They're saying because it actually has a lot more ingredients than normal fast food things do. Right.

And there's actual flavors in it. The only thing I'm a little confused about is why have a flour tortilla within the bagel already? No. I feel like the bagel itself- Wait, there's a flour tortilla within the bagel already i feel like the bagel itself wait there's a flour tortilla in the bagel so it's like you have a mini breakfast burrito inside and then a bagel outside so you have two starch layers i feel like that's a little redundant that's too much but i don't know not now you're telling me that it's getting positive reviews and now i kind of want to try it yeah because they take out reviewing it just like uh one of the food writers at the takeout who like you know typically i you know like i like how she talks about food um i think it was written by marnie sure and it you know marnie sure einstein wait a second but yeah like everyone a lot of people there were

pretty impressed she went to like a press event The write-up was at the press event. Most people were like, oh, you're worried? And it's actually like the bagel was rigid enough that it wasn't like falling apart. So it is big bowl and easy to hold. Yeah. At the same time, at a press event, they're making sure they fucking nail that thing. And the issue with fast food is you're having to you know spread that out across a nation yeah i mean they don't have a press event for the diarrhea you get they might we should i think we have to

have the bagel rito though yeah i mean that that needs to be something that is always to i i think the dough boys do a good job of this of like taking into account when they're reviewing fast food restaurants like and then i felt like sick for four hours which is actually not that bad for fast food like i don't ever really feel bad from eating fast food that's incredible i think that's why i'll never stop you're a machine yeah yeah or i'm just completely rotten on the inside right and like nothing's working anymore and it's like yeah dude i don't know just the wheels are basically have come off and somehow you're in free fall but alive i feel great i haven't pooped in 30 days it's great and then when it comes watch out man once a month walk walk all the furniture you guys

know i have to one day one day a month i don't come into work that's one of my favorite snl sketches is the one about the birth control pill that like gives you your period. Like you only have your period once a year. But then like when you do, it's like they're like running around with axes. Which year was that? How long ago was that? It was when it was one of the first ones after Tina Fey left when she came back and hosted. Oh, OK. And it was just very like strongly in her voice.

It was amazing. All right. let's talk about the invisible man uh jam yeah yeah so when i first heard they were remaking invisible man you know i have flashbacks to the going to see the chevy chase one when i was a kid in theaters and being underwhelmed uh but this this looks terrifying What is the story? I just know it's H.G. Wells but I don't know. I've never even seen the Chevy Chase one.

Is it about a dude who's literally invisible? Yeah. And then he just fucks around. He learns how to become invisible but it becomes very sad kind of. Because no one can see him? Yeah. This one's not sad.

Yeah, this one is straight up horror. The Chevy Chase one is more like comedy that then is like kind of angsty. Is the original story by H.G. Wells like malleable enough, basically, that depending on wherever the script writer wants to take it, you can still honor the original text and be... I think they literally just take the idea of a guy who can turn himself invisible. Oh, okay. literally just take the idea of a guy who can turn himself invisible okay i think the the original story was supposed to be about kind of like the perils of scientific advancements because it's about a scientist who just kind of gets driven insane by i think that was like 90 of what hg

wells wrote about right scientists who go crazy uh but this one is from like the perspective of like the victim like you don't see anything through the perspective of the the invisible man oh shit okay and it's still played by chevy chase though which i thought was a weird choice the the terrifying uh invincibility of chevy chase uh such a such a imposing physical presence the so this yeah it really seems like it's got it's basically more in line in the tradition of movies like enough and sleeping with the enemy where it's like a story of a woman who's in an abusive relationship who escapes and then is tormented by the person she escapes but that person that person is able to make himself invisible and also faked his own death, right?

Yeah, which is also really clever because they use the sci-fi concept to kind of make how trauma feels very palpable in terms of the story. Because the whole first act of the movie is basically just, you know, she escapes this abusive household and this guy,

and it's just her in empty rooms and this disquieting feeling of not being alone or not being able to go on with her life. Cause she's kind of haunted by this trauma. And it was really effective. I thought even just the beginning of the, before anything sci-fi happens, it's a horror scene that's just about her leaving this guy and about her trying to get out of the house while he's sleeping. And it was probably the most intense, scariest part of the movie.

And it's before the guy's even invisible. Yeah. So yeah, I thought it was pretty good. I mean, that is probably the most common like real world experience of horror that people have is like that's that's when you're at your at the most dangerous uh is when you're trying to leave like that's when you're at the most danger of being killed is when you're trying to leave an abusive significant other like that just happens so much it's uh like underrepresented because we don't make women the protagonists of our stories and uh even like the news i feel like

under under represents it um but yeah so it's a it's kind of an interesting turn uh sort of it feels sort of of a piece with the more like jordan peele uh like social socially conscious horror yeah and it's the same studio it's it's blumhouse right uh doing So like, yeah, they've been trying to corner the market on like the socially conscious, low budget thriller. Right. Rosemary's baby again. Yeah. Rosemary.

They did that. Right. Who'd have thought just bringing people's attention to societal issues would also be just horrifying without any sort of sensationalizing shit. But I mean, that's all. Yeah. That's always been like the best horror has been.

Yeah. It's subtle because i think it's universal and i think even then it sort of demystifies or it's less abstract like the idea of someone's trauma like if if you have it in the form of an invisible man it can be someone by themselves and you don't know if they're there but just this feeling right that sort of helps i don't know if it's completely abstract you'd be like oh yeah that is kind of yeah and then there's like a whole gaslighting thing too that seems to be like attention throughout is like you know she's saying there's a invisible person who's uh haunting her and people are like you're you know yeah yeah more on that later lady yeah exactly it does tap into that yeah that idea that women need to

be believed and it's also it's it's funny because she keeps trying to tell people that he turned himself invisible and they're like i'm not even gonna bother to look in his basement full of like mad scientist equipment right mysterious chambers i'm not you know right i don't know none of this is adding up i i will say i think it's's a little weird that it was just written and directed by this dude. It was like the guy who wrote Saw, I think, because he got kind of some pats on the back for Elizabeth Moss in an interview that he sort of collaborated with her and wanted the female perspective on the story. Yeah. I just don't understand why, if I was sitting down to write a script about this why i wouldn't ask co-write it with yeah one of the many many uh super talented women who aren't being given jobs by hollywood exactly i i just don't understand

that and like i said it's a good movie it does a lot well but maybe it could have been a great movie right and had more perspective than this one does i don't know but uh yeah pretty good and better than the the uh the invisible man we might have gotten if they kept going with the uh like the tom cruise verse right the tom cruise monster verse so this was this what this is a universal film, right? Mm-hmm. So Universal owns the rights to all these classic monsters, and they were going to try to turn it into their own Marvel universe where Wolfman and the Mummy, as played by Tom Cruise, and the Invisible Man, as played by Johnny Depp,

they had cast him. Russell Crowe as Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde. They were going to create this weird superhero movie slash monster movie hybrid. Yeah, who could forget that Tom Cruise mummy? Oh, everybody. I mean, who could remember? Right, who could remember that? Yeah, yeah. That everybody. I mean, who could remember that Tom Cruise mummy?

Right, who could remember that? Yeah, yeah. That movie tanked, and they were just like, okay. And then also, yeah, Johnny Depp as the Invisible Man might have been a little bit problematic since he's an abuser. Yeah, I wonder, like, was the story the same? Right.

Because that would be really weird. Yeah, I'm assuming not. Well, J.M., it's been such a pleasure having you, man. Oh, thank you for having me. Yeah. Thank you for having us. Yeah, thank you for working with us. Contributing to the show, man.

Thank you for inviting me on this journey. And it sounds silly when I say it out loud, but I mean it 100%. Thank you guys so much. No, thanks, man. The feeling is mutual. The love is mutual, baby. Yes, yes. Where can people find you, follow you?

You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at J.M. McNabb again. I'm usually on the Rewatchability podcast on the Entertainment One podcast network. If you're watching the new Star Trek show, Picard, I also do a recap show of that. It's called T. Earl Grey Hot Take. Wow.

You can find that on podcast places. Oh, because he says T. Earl Grey Hot, right? Yeah, that's what we were going for. He what? That's like one of the few Picardisms I know. Oh, okay. That's how he orders his tea. Yeah.

Got it. That's like his shaken, not stirred tea. Exactly. It's way less cool. I love it. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying? I did like, this is an older one, but from the debate the other day, a tweet by Matt Oswalt who tweeted out, debate winner, Bloomberg audience supporters

who are now SAG eligible. Oh, man. That was wonderful. Just so- What a crowd, huh? Synthetic. Sorry, authentic, right? That's the word for when everything's fake

and Miles where can people find you follow you Twitter Instagram at Miles of Grey also on my other podcast 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra some tweets that I like

the first one is from a past guest Amy Miller at Amy Miller she said please stranger tell me what else I can put in my act people love giving you those tips after this is what you should do I think

yeah and I think that is it oh wait no the other one was from Sophia but I couldn't find it on her Twitter. I just saw it. This was on her Instagram. Sophia Alexander at TheSophia said, My psychiatrist is in my phone as brain wizard, and my dentist is dentist

Toothington, and my dad is not around. Oh my god. Oh my god. Sabrina Ahmed tweeted a disaster, uh, about this ASAP Rocky for wall street journal magazine thing. It's just so it's a, it's a example of a media disaster that I feel like is not being covered, but people need to look at this ASAP Rocky photo shoot for the wall street journal magazine. Um, why he's, I feel like, what is he doing? but people need to look at this ASAP Rocky photo shoot for the Wall Street Journal magazine. Why?

I feel like... Wait, what is he doing? There's like a feature of him? Yeah, there's a feature. There's all these pictures of him just being, I don't know, so whack. Super dope? Yeah, super dope. But like, I don't know, man.

What's going on with that guy? He's so cool sometimes and then so awful others. Parker, at Aller at allergic to sex tweeted deleted twitter because i thought it was making me depressed turns out i just have depression and julia shiplet tweeted my midwestern ass loves screaming thank you when leaving literally any establishment and that uh i identify very uh hard with that and then eli the average guy at jazz in my pants tweeted oh you're not a coffee person congratulations on never achieving your potential uh you can find me on twitter jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we write out on. Miles, what song will that be for this fine Monday? Let's do a track by Hiatus Coyote, one of my favorite bands. Spelled H-I-8-T-U-S. Well, that's how you spell hiatus.

But Coyote, K-A-I-Y-O-T-E. Fantastic band from Australia. And this track is called The Lung. I think they are just one of the greatest bands playing right now. They're masters of their instruments and always a pleasure to see live. The Lung, L-U-N-G? Yes, The Lung. Big fan of those.

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