The Daily Zeitgeist - cOrPoRaTe oVeRrEaCh, Tasers = Always Racist 4.14.21

Episode Date: April 14, 2021

In episode 857, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Couples Therapy co-host Andy Beckerman to discuss the GOP flip-flopping on corporations, the history of the taser in the context of racial oppression, Biden's unnecessary thoughts on looting, Usher bucks, and more!FOOTNOTES: Conservatives: When We Said Corporations Are People, We Didn’t Mean They Could Disagree With Us Black people 'three times more likely' to be Tasered Black Americans disproportionately die in police Taser confrontations Despite Widespread Use, Police Rate Tasers As Less Effective Than Believed There’s ‘no evidence’ Tasers reduce police use of firearms, new study shows Who Made That Stun Gun? Jack Cover, 88, Physicist Who Invented the Taser Stun Gun, Dies Where did the word 'Taser' come from? A century-old racist science fiction novel Joe Biden Says 'No Justification' For Looting, Violence Amid Unrest Over Daunte Wright Shooting USHER DIDN'T PAY STRIPPERS WITH 'U$HER BUCKS' ... Big Ol' Misunderstanding LISTEN: Grosch Joint - Matthias Bublath  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into American shit. It's funny to me to try and make that sound like a party. You try. It's Wednesday, April 14th, 2021. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. AstraZeneca. AstraZeneca. AstraZeneca. AstraZeneca.

AstraZeneca. AstraZeneca. AstraZeneca. Get the vaccine. That is courtesy of Ensign Jensen. I was trying to think of a way to add on to it. Maybe with like a, if you liked it

then you gotta put the sting in it or some shit like that. But, you know. That was single ladies is what you're saying. Yeah. AstraZeneca! AstraZeneca! Yeah, yeah. Rhythmically it was a little off the meter. AstraZeneca. AstraZeneca. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. Rhythmically, it was a little off the meter.

AstraZeneca. AstraZeneca. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think that was clear to everyone, but maybe I'm not coming through clear to you guys for some reason. It must be the Zoom.

Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! You need to give it up. I had about enough. It's not hard to see that boy ain't right. Not sorry that you seem to be accused. Gates right in his plea. That boy ain't shite uh shout out to juju on the discord for that that boy is my brandy a monica that's been in the air so yes had to bring it back and adapted

to a shit face matt gates yeah yeah what uh why has that song been in the air because we were just talking about it um the other day okay maybe you weren't here maybe not the week you're maybe it was one of those things that just got memory hold uh yeah no we definitely it came up uh maybe i'm thinking of a different show i was on where i was talking i'm sorry man when you do 12 motherfucking podcasts a week they did do a versus battle so yeah yeah i don't know you know but it happened this shit happened and i talked about it with somebody's i gang if you remember first from the show please help me out because it's all a fucking blur yeah no it's a most likely i'm just not remembering a conversation that happened literally minutes ago that would be par for the course for

me during this pandemic i felt like that happened yesterday when i was talking to you off mic about that joelle and bead highlight of him juggling the ball and then like a couple minutes later like yo did you see that highlight of joelle and bead like juggling the soccer ball and i'm like what the fuck and you're like but then he makes it in the and you were talking about a different highlight but the way the momentum of it was going felt like one of those moments you're like i just said this oh no what is happening one of these days i mean that's gonna happen my i'm just it's gonna be like a malfunctioning robot where i just like keep saying the same sentence over and over again or uh in a monotone just repeat the word astrazeneca over and over again, or in a monotone, just repeat the word AstraZeneca over and over again

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Andy Beckerman! Hello, Jack, Miles, Justin, hello, Zeitgang. How are you doing on this wonderful gray morning? Wow, listen to that announcer voice. That's beautiful, man. Oh, I've pivoted to be a shock jock now. That's great. Hell yeah.

Here in my shocking jocular room. A dying art form. Yeah. What's with the 18-year-olds who think there's going to be the market for shock jocks right now who are going to walk into a desert wasteland? Well, what are they listening to that they think that there is? Is man cow still a thing? Or a man? Does he exist? mean one of one of

the most influential voices on me uh man cow for sure just did all the shock jocks just turn into like ben shapiro type shitheads i think so yeah yeah because you have to like when people are like you're just you're a disgusting misogynist they're like no i'm a nazi i love women i'm a nazi oh okay yeah and then yeah i think it's just generally like going in the direction of podcasts which is a good thing you know where's the shock jock podcast i want to know i want to know what podcasts are having women to know i want to know what podcasts are having women ride speakers to orgasm right yeah right who's doing yeah i guess that is the howard yeah because like i have a dirtbag left has its own version of shock jockery which is just like edgelording right right who's like the the fully is what's going on barstool what y'all is there any shows like that on barstool any shock yeah

there's that one dude who i see every once in a while who like does the like three minute breakdown where he like has a very strong shock jock like persona very strong like his point of view is that of a shock jock where he's like everything else is weird i like chicks i'm like what is that that's dumb dude just like a beer commercial turned into a human being yeah yeah that's yeah yeah it's just like frat bros with a mic who like aren't necessarily that clever but like what the fuck's going on dog like remember like in the heyday and then just have all commas and punctuation edited out of their speech so that it just jump cut to straight sentences andy it's great to see you again it's been a while uh you look well sir you look well thank you i've been uh nothing to do in

quarantine except ride the exercise bike and play hades so yeah what's hades it's a switch game oh nice can i outsource something to the zeitgang yes i need switch recommendations for games oh that are you're talking to you're talking to the switch god man oh uh that are in the vein of breath of the wild and mario odyssey or metroid if that bro here's your time to shine baby hit him with those records you know what what? My brain, it's like all the words are trying to come out at the same time. All these different recommendations. I'm going to have to hit you. I want

to be very thoughtful and mindful about my Switch recommendations. I want to see what Zeitgang says, and then I'll let you know after. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I'll critique them because, you know. Oh, Zeitgang is very gamer. We're focused. So I know, Zeitgang, I know you it's like gang is very gamer week. We're focused. So I know that gang.

I know you got some switch recommendations in the vein of all of those titles. He just said, I'm not a switcheroo type of person, but I want to get one because I'm like eight months late to every wave. So I was like, yeah, maybe I'll play Animal Crossing. Yeah. Have you tried that one? Animal Crossing? Tom, not my style. Not my style. suggested I asked other people

and they're like what about stardew valley and I'm like how many things do I get to kick or punch in that and they're like none and I go no thank you yeah it's about what you can grow you're like oh no okay I'm summoning some kind of fucking demon this one shit I'm trying to grow.

Grow some melons so I can smash them. Not where I thought you were going with that sentence. Yeah. The Gallagher role playing game. It's a fun thing to violently smash. Roll your melons for a live show later. Yeah. Yeah.

Whittle wood for a sledgehammer for a live show. I mix all the topical refs you know i'm up on switch i'm up on gallagher uh you know what the kids are talking about probably a progenitor of the shock jock of the right wing lunatic yeah he's like combo shock jock and like smooth jazz like adult contemporary dj because he had sort of a laid back vibe before he started smashing the pumpkins but like with a weirdly conservative vibe to him if you like go back and watch his stuff of course of course that was all there was on comedy central when comedy central first became a thing was that that and the Craig Kilbourne Daily Show.

I just drank it all in. And that's where, that's informed most of my politics. Wait, I didn't- Craig Kilbourne and Gallagher. Dude, reading- That's why you listen to Ben Shapiro exclusively now. Yeah, and Mancow. Reading this whole thing about Gallagher on Wikipedia between him and his brother,

did you know that him and his brother had a following? I didn't realize that his brother looks like him, and he's like, don't do my bit, because you look like me. Yeah, that's very wild. Yeah, where's that movie? Where's the Gallagher biopic? It's coming, it's coming, slowly,

but I'm on act two of the screenplay. All right, Andy, we're're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about uh we're gonna talk about corporations people not people the conservatives are trying to make up their mind having a hell of a time with it hissing themselves figuring out what's going on uh we'll talk about some vax panic uh we'll talk about uh whether police should have guns what do you guys think what do you know this you heard about this maybe let's let's zoom out further should we have police yeah so we'll talk about that we'll tell joe biden to shut the fuck up uh we will talk about the history of the taser all of that

plenty more but first andy we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are what you're up to oh boy um misha barton 2021 looked up recently in the, in the pandemic. I've been rewatching the OC. Okay. It's part of my nightly ritual to stay sane. I eat a little bowl of potato chips and pretzels and watch an episode of

the OC. Okay. What's your, I'm not to, I want to continue this, but I want to stop you there on the little bowl of chips and pretzels. How do you prepare that? How big is the bowl?

And what is your idea in terms of how you're, you know, moderating what the mix is in the amount? Great question. So you got it. It's a small bowl. It's a, you know, regular, it's maybe a cereal bowl. All right. So it's not like huge. And you got, you put like a handful of potato chips and

this is how you have to work it out for every two regular size potato chips you eat one pretzel and they're rolled gold pretzels look we're in california i can't get the good stuff i'm from pennsylvania if i was back in pennsylvania i'd be getting tom sturge's pretzels okay tom sturge's pretzels the best and uh probably i don't know goods potato chips whatever potato chips don't have lard um at this point uh but um that's the ratio okay right and so you're watching your oc getting your salty snack on right and you thought what's misha up to now well yeah really all of them also i learned something very interesting rachel bilson comes from hollywood royalty she's like her dad is nominated for the screenplay for the five bloods uh this year it maybe he's not nominated but he

should be but yeah that was a screenplay that was like about five Vietnam vets that was like has been kicking around since the 90s. And then Spike Lee came in and gave it a reason to exist. Yeah. But yeah, she went to my high school. Oh, which one? Rachel Bilson. Rachel Bilson. Wow.

Do you know her? No, she was like a senior when I was a freshman. Was she an actual student or was she like already acting? And she's like, you know, like it was the same thing. Like Kirsten Dunst is also like when you're acting, you don't go to, you're not at school. Like you're just at, you just, you say you go to a school for like the social part to say like, oh, I go to this high school twice a year for a test. And then I'm on set the rest of the time. Yeah.

A lot of people don't know this, but Laura Bundy. of the time yeah a lot of people don't know this but laura bundy andy in a recent episode i revealed that laura bundy yes that laura bundy who played one of the kids in jumanji went to my high school in kentucky and that was a defining fact for kids who went to my high school uh and miles miles was like oh yeah chris and dunce went to my school no big deal and didn't even mention that rachel bilson did was i mean look you know look did her and rami malik go doubt together when they were in high school i don't know he went to my high school too i read she they she posted a picture when rami malik was nominated for an oscar she posted a

picture of them from high school and apparently he wrote her on instagram was like please take that down i'm a very private person when it comes to awkward pictures of me and yeah of me is more of like a kind of round-faced teen kid okay sure around me here's an actual little known fact to me up until a couple weeks ago did you know that pen badgley and adam brody are not the same person i i had just fused them as the same person in my head because Dan and Adam, was his character's name Adam? So Dan, Penn Badgley played Dan in Gossip Girl. Adam Brody played Seth in The O.C. And they were both like the literary kind of nerdy character.

And I had absolutely completely fused them in my brain. And then Adam Brody was on a comedy bang, bang the other week. And I was like picturing Penn Badgley the whole time. Oh, Penn Badgley is hot man. Zookas, right?

Is that what he is? That's what I, that's how I remember Penn Badgley. Well, Penn Badgley, I've never seen with a beard. Does he rock a beard every once in a while? Allow me to litter the chat with this

image of Hot Man Zookas. Penn Badgley. Yeah, he's the dude for chat. Miles has just posted a 30 line long link. Oh yeah, Hot Zookas. I'm hot for Zookas.

Maybe Vulture should do one of those things where they have two friends talk, except with Penn Badgley and Manzookas. Zooks and Penn. How's the OC holding up? I watched a couple episodes when it first came

out. I never really got fully into it. Is it good? I loved episodes when it first came out. I never really got fully into it. Is it good? I loved it when it first came out because Seth Cohen, I was close to that age and he was into indie rock and comic books. And representation matters, as we all know. And I had never seen someone into Death Cab and the X-Men on TV before. So an awkward Jewish kid into indie rock and comic books so i found that to be important in my development but not bad it's not bad honestly like it's still pretty enjoyable like they're all very good actors and they're having fun mostly and there's some fun

dialogue there but it's like it's it has the problems that any show that has to do 24 or 25 episodes a season, like they mostly used to do, um, have, which is like, how do you fucking keep a show? How do you keep things going for 25 episodes?

So there's all these ups and downs. So like everyone's breaking up every two episodes. Right. And yeah, I, I don't know. There's some murders too, right?

Don't they run into like the, gotta keep heightening it to the point that like, or not murders, but people die. And like, it goes, it goes super melodramatic. Isn't that when the Whatcha Say episode happens?

Whatcha Say? Yes. That's the only thing I know. I've never seen the OC before. And I've only, I only know. You lived it, bro.

Yeah. Yeah, dude, I did. Kind of. No, but I would say would say region of the country would you andy could i a blazian man in the year of our lord 2021 who's never seen the oc cast eyes upon this masterwork and have an effect that is positive uh sure i mean i don't know they're not they're like i don't know honestly i don't know it like i'm trying to be my journey it's tough to think about it through the eyes of like

present day kind of woke hollywood and i say kind of in the sense that like hollywood today is like they love hiring uh yeah it's it's like companies but it's still like yeah but it's still like everyone behind the scenes is white so you're still getting a white perspective it's just now said through the mouth of a black person right uh mostly there's you know obviously a handful of exceptions i don't it's fun i don't know i don't know like what you're looking for it's it's certainly not i didn't find it too offensive it wasn't like no i don't know if it would be offensive necessarily more just like if as like you know like since you have a connection to it from back in the day

you're watching it with a different sense versus sort of objectively being like yo check out the oc check it out it's streaming baby i look by the way i didn't say check it out i said this you're saying i'm not saying check it out yeah yeah i was not i was not recommending this i was saying this is how i've survived right this is this is my own unique medical intervention for my boredom right right this is prozac me, and I would never give someone else that prescription. Right, right, right. What's something you think is overrated? Oh, boy, my friends. I got one for you. Setting your fiction in Victorian England. Stop it. Stop setting your fiction in the most uninteresting period ofland at the height of its colonial powers we don't need it literally everyone is covered in dirt every orphan every posh person is covered in dirt every rich person

belongs to some weird fuck society that makes eyes wide shut look like some awkward high school hand job everyone has to legally mention jack the ripper or Sherlock Holmes in every other sentence. Victoria, England is the most boring time period. Stop setting your fiction there. Yeah. Thank you. I cede the rest of my time. Anytime you can spend an extra $50 million making a place and costumes look appropriate to a time you know you

got to do it what's what do you think the obsession is it's when white people have the most power and so right yeah and the antebellum south is a little too aggressive right yeah yeah can't touch that that's funny victorian england though yeah now we're talking now now it's hitting and and they don't get this dog whistle yeah exactly exactly it's a dog whistle it's like the last it's the last great dog whistle right right it's like the mash is about the Korean War, but it's really about Vietnam. It's like Victorian England. That's interesting.

I wonder if there's any scholarly articles written about that as like Victorian because it is like all about manners and a system of manners. And there is like a place underbelly where like, you know, the kids a soot on their face you know right that's right they look all the all the kids look like al jolson right right right or just yeah or a more contemporary reference such as justin trudeau at halloween right andy what is something you think is underrated well look you know i i previous episodes, I've gotten pretty political in these things. And this this one is no different. We live in very politically volatile times. And one of the things I find most underrated are Tootsie Roll lollipops. Wow. He went there. He went.

Let me just sidebar with you, Jack, really quick. Do we want to have him say that? I don't know, man. It's tough because the blow pop contention is going to be really bad. The blow pop blow back. The blow back. And on top of the spending blow pack is going to do to get us out of office? Oh, no.

Wow. Wait, what's with the... You know, to be honest, I haven't had that shit in maybe 10 years. See? You haven't, but they're delicious. Yeah. Except for, can I give you one exception? Yes.

The chocolate. The chocolate ones. Who needs that? I'm getting a chocolate surprise in the middle. Right. So I don't... Sorry, the cat here. Your cat is twerking on your mic.

Speaking of chocolate surprise, I am looking at your cat's butthole. Speaking of Tootsie Pops. You know what? Squeeze butthole is underrated. I do like the implication that you're surprised every time you get to the middle of a Tootsie Pop. You're like, whoa!

Whoa! Naomi, get in here! So I am team blow pop when it comes to this. Like, I like having the super sweet gum that curdles in your mouth after, like, two minutes. Or turns, like, rock hard in your mouth after two minutes. Yeah. But the outer, the candy shell of the Tootsie Pops have always been superior. Like, I've always found yeah

the cherry is great yeah that's i don't like chocolate and cherry at all but you you i will fucking get my hand ripped off going for a fucking red tootsie pop as a kid and then if i had the one with the fucking star on the fucking wrapper you know i'm getting a free one and i'm making up promotions that were just urban legends i had nothing to do with it being free but i'm like uh i have the star here with the problematic child in the native american dress uh shooting a bow i believe was like how that one was like depicted what oh i might be mixing the thing up where the star was at the end of a bow and arrow on a tootsie pop wrapper huh lemon strawberry but chocolate no siree i did not eat this thing to have a terrible chocolate because look you don't have a good chocolate hard candy right there's no such thing as a hard candy with a chocolate taste that's delicious right right It might as well be where there's original.

Yeah. See, it had the little kid with a, like a, like indigenous headdress on with the bow and arrow. Wow. And I remember that's, see, that's how much that shit was in my mind.

Cause I had a fucking Pavlovian response to that late racist little kid. I was like, huh? What year is this? As if like, it couldn't just be 2021. I mean, yeah. I mean, I'm sure this has been on there since forever. I mean, you know, at the height of my consumption of these things was probably around the time Ricky Martin's Cup of Life, the theme for the 1998 France World Cup was charting on the charts.

So 97, 98. on the charts so 97 98 so what if we're ranking the tootsie pops are you going red blue orange yellow where where are you at orange yellow wow grape wow and i won't even eat the i won't even eat the chocolate i won't even deign to eat the chocolate i won't even i won't even donate the chocolate these takes might be too hot i walk i walk outsideign to eat the chocolate. I won't even donate the chocolate. These takes might be too hot. I walk outside and I throw the chocolate straight in the sewer. Wow. Lemon chocolate. Those are two flavors that rarely go together.

What? Lemon's great. Okay. All right. No, shout out to you. Lemon hard candy. Yeah. I like lemon starburst.

That's the one lemon candy I like. I don't like a lot of lemon hard candy. Yeah. I like lemon Starburst. That's the one lemon candy I like. I don't like a lot of lemon hard candy. Now this shit's got 19 different fucking flavors. 18 flavors. I mean, come on. Don't. Why? See, this is where the kids got it.

They're just getting, they're going out of control over there, over Tootsie Roll. Yeah. The kids these days, they, you know, with their YouTube, they're used to options. They're used to being able to just figure out whatever they want. I've had enough. This has been man-cow. The only good thing about capitalism is diversifying the flavors of Tootsie Roll Pops. Have you tried the new ones?

Have you tried the new ones? Oh, I'm on an adventure. I'm on a journey, buddy. These Pops minis. Listen to what they have now. anybody i these pops minis listen to what they have now watermelon cherry green apple strawberry kiwi banana raspberry grape fruit punch tangerine mango chocolate orange black cherry blackberry lemon strawberry blue raspberry and pomegranate banana probably outpaces the candy made in banana flavor like the actual banana is so far superior in my opinion to every

banana flavored thing that has ever been created not the banana jello pudding pop okay banana pudding is actually pretty fucking good yeah but i i think i always assumed that had like banana pureed in there anyways uh we have to talk about some less important stuff so uh let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha Libre is a type of storytelling.

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era of corporate meddling they don't like because before it just used to be like let us meddle on your behalf to deregulate everything and then you keep the money coming and we'll just be your good little nascars going around the track on Capitol Hill, you know, fighting for your corporate rights. But then these fucking idiot CEOs started worrying about shit like voting rights. And apparently there was this call that happened over the weekend with over 100 of the top capitalist all-star CEOs, people trying to get together. Jamie Dimon? Yeah. I don't know, Jamie Dimon? Yeah. I don't know if Jamie Dimon was quite...

I mean, they didn't say him by name, but I'm sure he had representation there. Oh, yeah. Because representation matters, especially on a call like that. Are those capitalist trading cards, by the way? I'm sure someone... It seems like some 80s art piece. You know what I mean? It has to be like a chromium.

And all the heads of the big investment banks would be like chromium cards like all the old marvel cards the there were the special ones you know what's fucked up is you would probably create like a fucking collector's market where now these cards of like unknown capitalists who are like obscure are now like the most hot the hottest trading card you could fucking have. And it's whatever. Dude, I've got an Epstein rookie when he was just coming out of teaching math. When he was a teacher. From Dalton? Yeah, from Dalton.

Damn. Dude, I have a pre-Berkshire. I got a pre-Berkshire fucking Buffett, bro. Wow. Pre-Bert Buff, dude. Pre-Bert Buff. So this call, right? First, there was a letter we talked

about with like 72 black ceos who were based you know essentially were like uh this is fucking awful and unfortunately we're the only people who are trying to be very vocal because we're the most affected by it despite our place socioeconomically and the call of this one with the larger group of business leaders quote the call the call's goal was to unify companies that had been issuing their own statements and signing on to drafted statements from different organizations after the action in georgia this is the funny part is the leaders called in from around the country some chimed in from augusta georgia where they were attending the masters golf tournament so still you know it's still very so they're still on brand still very much ceo capitalist called like i'm sorry, I'm here at the Masters.

What's this about voting rights in this state I'm in right now? And this apparently was the thing that had all the GOP shook because they're like, what the fuck is with all this momentum of them getting together and talking about like outcomes for people to vote? And they were happy when the equation was essentially like, we'll give you money to keep us making money. But now with all the in-your-face racism, it's now the consumers that are realizing that they may be able to be the neck that turns the head on some level between what corporations feel is appropriate. Because prior to this, people weren't as engaged and people were like, yeah, I don't know. I think these companies are bad, but like there's too much going on that I'm not aware enough of what bad means. And now with all of the, you know, companies giving money to mask off racist politicians or people who are rah-rah-ing the insurrection, they're now the companies are like, oh, actually, this is a thing called a terrible marketing campaign. And it affects things that we give a fuck like brand loyalty or brand perception and that's where we're not like the gop which is a death cult

because where you're willing your end game is to die the second it starts fucking with our profits we got to figure some other shit out because our god is money not this other ideology which is also a death cult but with a slight slightly more longevity a different god malik right his name but do you guys think so like obviously like the the gop's watchword of their faith is white supremacy and i find like when you try to figure out like their actions if you just say like they will do anything they can to uphold white supremacy over profits over anything else and they will do whatever they can to uphold white supremacy and i don't you think that like a lot of corporations are are similar but they just don't want to be as vocal about it yeah i mean at the end of the day like they're not going to be like

rah-rah-ing socialism from like the you you know, the fucking Coca-Cola Instagram account. So there's definitely a line of where the progress will halt even for corporations, right? Where it becomes an existential threat to their business. So I think they still are still guided by things like we got to sell shit. And if we, if people think we support this stuff, we sell less shit. So let's at least do make sounds about it. That's why at the end of the day, I'm not sure what the fuck any of these companies will actually do to ensure these things, aside from giving themselves the optical cover of being like, well, we got together. I remember I missed part of the last round at Augusta to be on this call.

So don't say i wasn't all in on these voting rights things yeah i'll let it happen but like like there was a report like a week or two ago maybe about how hollywood misses out on i think it's like i forget what the number is like 1.6 billion right without having right like more black people yes exactly and they're because they're so dedicated to white supremacy even if they maybe they don't say maybe they don't understand it. Maybe let's say they're ideologically dumb and they don't really get that. That's what they're doing. But there probably are a bunch of people that do like're like, well, we won't go below this threshold of money. We'll maintain white supremacy as long as we're making like the 40 percent, the three percent that we have to make every quarter. We'll see, because that's what was interesting. Like when McKinsey hands you a report saying, hey, fellow capitalists, you're leaving fucking money on the table.

Like, we'll see. I mean, I think the effects of that report, I think, will be borne out over the next year and a half or so to see, like, what changes. But I don't know. It seems like that was, like, the last compelling argument. It's like you're leaving money in the billions on the table by doing this. this. It's corruption that is built into the system to maintain a status quo that benefits the people who are currently in power, who are white people who have benefited from white supremacist values. And both companies and politicians, by design, are supposed to have to by design are supposed to have to embrace and represent the beliefs of their consumers. But I feel like through sort of colluding together, they've been able to not do that

so that they can kind of stay in power and keep the status quo. But it's just about kind of finding new ways to force their hand it seems like yeah and now over at the federalist they are shitting their supreme court pack in pants over there they've said this is an op-ed that came out um and it's just shout out to wonka for kind of compiling some of their other headlines because it really it's fun when you read it all together but But this headline came out, said it's not OK for corporations to take away our freedom just because they're not government. I'm sorry. What y'all were circle jerking around Hobby Lobby and Citizens United and all this other shit. But now you're like, what are this is out of control.

I don't understand that headline. So just because they're not government is it's that they think they're late to i don't know that the idea is that who the hell do they think they are government they're the ones that get to do racism officially or whatever or unofficially so that they want to change this no right okay i see what i think it's usually like saying like this is separation of church and state. This isn't your lane, corporations. Separation of corporations and state.

It's basically like you're a person if you are riding with our agenda. But if we find you on the other end, if we're now diametrically opposed, then oh, fuck all of you. Right. That's Mitchnell's whole thing remember his whole thing is just the the blind acquiring and use of power for his own ends and for the gop elite's own ends yeah and that that's it and if you align with that then you're with them and if you're don't align with that then you're against them and that's the only principle

that i think it's it's such an easy way to figure out these people we believe in nothing it's not about governing they're just like i'm just trying to amass as much bullshit before my corpse rots and expires and then i'll look back at all my disappointed descendants who are like changing their last name because of me but this i just want to read parts of this fucking op-ed um because first they're starting to be like it's like sound this alarm like imagine a world where ceos get together and like set agendas based on their like business interests because just purely because they dominate the public square it goes on maybe in a place called davos or Bohemian Grove or some weird place like that. So this is what the op-ed says, quote, if this works, the pressure on voting laws will be tomorrow's pressure on gun laws and next on immigration laws, abortion laws and education laws.

Corporations, which for decades lobbied merely on issues pertinent to their financial interests have now begun to capitalize on aggressive woke ism. Soon, woke corporate boardrooms will be weighing in on every facet of American life. That's the existential threat to American liberty flying under the radar. I mean, I think this is good because somebody was going to take the populist position like people kept calling Trump populist, but he wasn't actually populist because everything he did was to fuck over the

little guy and you know benefit for cronyism he was faux populist but like not even really because racism isn't populism it's not it's not right that was like Bannon's thing I guess it was just like kind of like living in Bannon's feces.

Right. Right. Yeah. A microphone from his mouth. Flood the lane with shit. That was his metaphor. We like to flood the zone with shit. But this feels like they're going explicitly elitist now.

They're like what they're going to do. The things that are good for people just because the people want it. And we're going to have the things that are good for people just because the people want it and we're going to have to listen to and like all the things that they mentioned are it feels very much like things that they're on the wrong side of like people want more gun control they have put in institutional barriers so that we can't get more gun control people want better schools yeah put in institutional barriers i think they don't realize ideologically that this road ends with like the party just disintegrating at a certain point because all the ideas are so unsustainable

and i think now that people are off ramping from them they're like oh what's going on now they don't know and they're like are we are we burning up in the atmosphere because there's a whole other poll saying just how far off and we this was apparent to everyone but how far off republicans are just in general from the mainstream just on race like how so wrong they consistently are that that's also another thing like repulsing certain business interests too because like you can't you can't even like these aren't ideas like you can have anymore but yeah when uh public opinion starts turning against these right-wing freaks they always like take a position where there's a particle of something leftist and real in there which is

like i don't want corporations having a say in anything yeah right you fuckers are the ones that like push citizens united and everything and like back in the like when was the 1800s when they first said that when the supreme court first ruled that corporations were people like you right-wing freaks are the ones that have been pushing this line for over a century and now it's turning against you and you want to say that corporations shouldn't have any say and i agree with you corporations shouldn't have any say yeah let's go in public life but you're only doing it because they're actually like pushing something that is like kinder you only turn against them when they were like hey maybe we shouldn't be so maybe uh it's bad for our image for us to like bite the throats

out of all orphans right right or yeah inhibit people to vote explicitly black people and try and there's no way you can be like i don't know. I think it's about voter confidence and security. No, no, it isn't. So now they're forced to make these decisions. I just want to read a couple other past federalist headlines because just to know where they're at normally, it's things like, quote, how the free market promotes tolerance, diversity, and inclusion far better than socialism does. Another one. Let's deregulate everyone instead of applying outdated rules to new ideas. How capitalism is better for the environment than the Green New Deal.

This is this is the normal line that they tow. Yet we get to this other section of the op ed where they start being like, well, fuck, man, libertarian free market shit is also bullshit. They say this quote. Yet many Republicans in power appear to have fallen victim to this deception, often citing libertarian philosophy to justify their decisions. This, however, is where libertarianism fails. What good is the absence of a government mask mandate if private businesses implement their own what good is the absence of a government vaccine passport if private businesses implement their own okay see you later remember these people have no deeply held values except amassing power everything boils down to that they will say whatever they can to get power and to

keep power and to wield power on the less powerful but yeah and then they're doing things like but that's your favorite track libertarianism in the free market that's how you that's what you pivot to when you're saying being a normal republicans too racist then you can do that one oh and now that one's not good oh because it was never about any of that shit anyway. Exactly. And again, anybody who thinks like stupidity is the problem, those headlines were written by people who like went to Harvard and Yale and like are by all all the metrics, the people who are like these idiots, like it's just dumb people voting for Trump. Like those are the people who you're talking about like it's just dumb people voting for trump like those are the people who you're talking about in a lot of cases right remember the capital insurrectionist people were all like bourgeois middle class or upper middle class folks and some and then some

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yeah you heard me uh-huh that's not and the police are using that as like accidental discharge you really got a feel for the lady guys come on it's really she she just had oh no nothing of dante right who's dead yeah yeah exactly oh god can you could you imagine that goof of being a fucking racist murderer extra shut the fuck up to joe biden being like well we're waiting to see if it's uh he i'll give him mitch mcconnell's voice at this point yeah we're waiting to see if it was an accident or not but uh there's no like the thing he really zoomed in on is looting uh that hmm uh but anyways the the idea that tasers and the fact that she was trying to use a taser on somebody that pulled over for, I guess, either tags being out of date or because he had a air freshener hanging from his rearview mirror. Neither.

Yeah. The fact that she was using a taser on him like that, that seems to have been become the focus with like the new york times uh cnn while not common officers have mistaken pistols for tasers sometimes with deadly outcomes white supremacists yeah keep explaining how does an officer use a gun instead of a taser how easy or hard is it to confuse a gun for a taser this is cnn so why this is the this is sorry i'm so sorry this just this stuff at this point i don't know why any literally like after the cops have been killing black men for how i mean centuries but like literally like in our like maybe what's the like modern era where we're we all kind of see what's going on ferguson

is like does it start yeah i mean we're talking cell phone footage yeah like it all but yeah i mean without giving that timeline yeah since time immemorial sure but let's just say the last seven years perhaps are like the real like like it's so obvious to us all. Have you ever listened to an interview with Noam Chomsky where people ask him about, what should the US do here? What should blah, blah, whatever. They ask him this stuff, and he's just like, well, it's obvious, blah, blah. He just says, well, it's obvious. It's so self-evident to him. If abolish the police isn't self-evident to everyone right now. I don't know what to say to someone and anyone who's not who doesn't come into that with come into any reporter who is reporting on this.

It doesn't have this as a self-evident start to this discussion is just not to be taken seriously. I don't know how to take any news report seriously that starts with the premise is it easy to confuse a taser with a handgun it doesn't matter right it doesn't matter if it's easy it's not first of all it's not we know what they look like just based on weight color materials used for the like like trigger like to they don't have the same trigger. Right. Like, don't you have to cock a gun? Like, don't you have to take a safety off?

Also, that just that very question infers that the taser was a reasonable course of action. Yeah. But those people are not serious. They're not serious. They're obviously not doing anything serious. They're not doing anything newsworthy or journalistic. They are just stirring the pot. Right. Yeah. Well, that's where you see that even for people who don't realize it, how white systemic white supremacy has to then use all of its mechanisms to protect itself, to allow it from protection from further analysis for people to realize how deep it runs and i think for these people they're like no i think this is actually an interesting like let's just say for

a second right these are just these like neoliberal journalists who are have fully fucking drank the kool-aid that were in some post-racial bullshit world yeah and they're like no i mean seriously let's try and extend some empathy and let's just say like it's not common but it has happened and like maybe we should just talk about that and just so people understand without realizing the fact that you're introducing this to the discourse is so fucked up and regressive and has nothing to do with what the fuck is happening if you were actually going to write something that was clear maybe talk about how tasers are bullshit maybe talk about like how is this still happening and i think it's weird because you're able to empathize with yeah these board these

editorial rooms these board rooms are just sort of like don't bring up don't use white supremacy to explain white supremacy do not do that as a news outlet we refuse to do that and it's just so evident every single fucking headline that comes out that isn't an op-ed where it takes someone to be like, this is my opinion. But that shit is clear as fucking day to people. It doesn't have to be an op-ed. It should be fucking front page news. So our writer, JM, was kind of put together a history on tasers, obviously also a deadly weapon of racial oppression. Black people are three times more likely to be tased by police than white people.

The taser is a lethal weapon, often resulting in fatalities with police disproportionately killing black people. But I think another like the technocrat aspect of it, like that Obama, think another like the technocrat aspect of it like that obama like technocratism where like his 2012 election they were like we used facebook for uh for our purposes and like got re-elected and the media was like yes sir that's brilliant you guys we have solved everything with technology i feel like that's built in here a little bit too that like well we just create a safer option for shooting unarmed black men and even if the tasers themselves don't kill people they frequently malfunction and so the cops just shoot and kill the person instead um right or use that someone having a taser to be like oh that shit could kill so i had to kill them because they had a taser it be like, oh, that shit could kill. So I had to kill them because they had a taser.

It's like, what the fuck? We've programmed these new robot police dogs to not see race. Right. Right. Not see. The justification was like originally to curb shootings.

Studies have found, quote, no evidence that using tasers reduces police use of firearms. like originally to curb shootings, studies have found quote, no evidence that using tasers reduces police use of firearms. It's just creates like a hotter atmosphere, like a more violent atmosphere. Yeah. And they were literally created as a substitute for cattle prods, which were being used by cops against black civil rights protesters in the sixties.

which were being used by cops against black civil rights protesters in the 60s and because the police literally said that they were hurting the civil rights protesters while they described using the cattle prods that was a pr boo-boo for the racist police and so they created tasers and the inventor of taser this is interesting the phrase taser comes from the novel that the nasa scientist was inspired by called tom swift and his electric rifle and then he just added an a because it was easier to say Rather than the teaser. Yeah. Rather than the teaser. In the book, Tom Swift, who this was like a early 20th century sci-fi franchise. Yeah. I read those when I was a kid. Yeah. So he brings his electric rifle to Africa and it's a colonialist fantasy in which this

white hero invents a new kind of gun and decides to test it out on, quote, the dark continent, first hunting elephants and then battling the African people who the book describes as scarcely human. So I don't remember that part when I was a kid. Right. It's just so thoroughly, as with everything in American culture culture like when you just fucking barely scratch the surface it's just completely right it wasn't like some nasa scientist like i'm trying to find a way we could heat up some water out in space and i stumbled upon this taser no it's like i read this book about a little colonizer boy who wanted to tame the fucking savage people of africa with his electric gun and i said oh i want to make the real life version of that shit i saw in a racist book yes and i was inspired i was spurred to action

by watching uh the police uh brutalize black civil rights activists so this giant mech i've created to help police people is based on birth of a nation. Right. Like what? There weren't even mechs in there. It's like, I don't know. You should read between the lines. So that's that's just a brief history of the humane option that people are like, well, they were.

I mean, it's just an honest mistake. And the thing that we have to be concerned about is all this looting. Right. Because it's about inanimate objects over black living bodies. These are unserious people. I'm really curious, you know, like what happens with the other thing when you see people get taser stun,

like what happens to your brain when you get hit with that electricity? And also like you see videos where people are running at a full sprint and get hit with that taser and they just flop down and yeah if you've seen fucked up fistfights people get knocked out and collapse and die from hitting their head on the on the concrete because they're but they're not rigid enough to break their fall like i'm curious to know what all these other the other shit we're not actually grouping into taser injury because it's not it's not often you just see someone like eat the taser and they're like, OK, I'm sorry. I'll sit down and I'll cooperate.

It's always very violent. Yeah. Do they even keep statistics on any of that stuff? Because it's obviously not in their interest to who know on what taser injuries and like i guess you would call that stuff secondary taser injuries i mean they didn't even keep statistics on gun violence until right a year ago and even then it was like their hand was forced by journalists having to like do all of this like linking of different databases because yeah the the whole country is just completely overrun by gun lobby and white supremacy. It's pretty wild. Can't there be like a private database in the way that like remember a couple years ago there was the like scummy men in media list.

Right, right. That like Excel sheet that women would pass around to make sure that you didn't work with like, you know, creeps that were editors and things like that. Would this be a list of the only police who aren't racist and willing to use white supremacists violence to kill people? Sure. So it's like, you know, a handful. I mean, there is a 2008 journal study that says taser and taser associated injuries, a case series. And the abstract is basically saying, like, people need to realize it's like it says taser use theoretically reduces the risk of injury and death by decreasing the use of lethal force. patients subdued with taser devices like skull fractures some kind of brain hemorrhage breaking of the orbitals around your eye orbital floor fracture concussions facial laceration it's like all those other things that happen on the way down or depending on where you might get hit with the

taser so it's just all fucking this nonsense yeah and they just shouldn't be armed absolutely police or exist yeah or that's what that's why i find like all the debate that happens around this stuff that's why i like i'm just like it's so like patently obvious at this point that like having these like secondary debates about like guns versus tasers something it's like well no the basic debate is how like the basic debate for everyone that is serious about this stuff is like how do we phase out policing in america and build up something that is more just and yeah and what's wild is the answer to a hundred out of a hundred questions about this country is support the human

beings that live here right that's it the the idea of crime as if crime is some kind of deficiency that occurs within people of color because they are jealous of white people's wi-fi is so fucked up and racist rather than saying this is you know what happens when you're left with very little options you have to survive and then because we've criminalized poverty uh sorry then now we found a way to put the failings of our lack of support for you into another industry where we can profit off of now incarcerating you because somebody's making money off of this shit and it's that simple like everything just fucking support people like people who feel supported have less of a need to commit crimes to survive by the way have you guys ever seen a white

supremacist that did not look like a morlock like i i don't understand how like in the q documentary the watkins is like i don't understand how you're like ron watkins and you look in the mirror and you're like yep this is the peak this is the peak of of all humans right right right this is the best well yeah i always talk about how i think the lie that they are living is very apparent to them which makes them so hateful and gives them like a lot of the energy that they use to to carry into this shit is like they are having to live that lie try and tell that lie to themselves every morning when they look in the mirror. And at a certain level, they don't believe it.

Love that Freudian spice you're adding. Yeah. All right, let's talk about Usher. don't want to believe that he uh that he was tipping dancers at uh sapphire dancers with money with his face on it fake money fake money it looks great i mean there there has been a great deal of care put into creating what money would look like were usher the only president we had ever had right because it's we got ones we got 20s we got hundos uh and it's usher all the way down he's yeah and it all started when a dancer put on her ig story like these three bills with usher's face on it and the captain said ladies what would you do if you uh if you danced all night for usher and he threw this and it's ush bucks okay then the next story says the money

and the money does not have a trading value whatsoever lmao don't y'all think he should be blasted on social media for this shit and he was rightly everyone's like oh no and i think while most of us would love to think that usher is so cheap that he would bother to print up just all these fake dollars with his fucking face on it rather than like company script. Yeah, exactly. Can you use it at Usher's online store? Unfortunately, you can't. This has zero, not even for what clearly says this. This is what the next phase of the investigation moves into.

On the bill itself, it says usher the Las Vegas residency, which is to promote his residency at a casino. He's going to be performing on the strip or whatever. He's got a big check for that. And there have been images of like the promotional stuff with him with a suitcase full of these usher dollars. So like it's known that this stuff was made with a suitcase full of these usher dollars so like it's known that this stuff was made and it was part of a promotion according to the management as the sapphire club uh they say usher was a legit customer and he paid real money and tipped real money and over overpay for sparkly champagne with real money and it turns out from the the sources around

usher's camp a friend of his and the entourage just left some of the loose bills on stage when they were leaving just like as a gag even though like they had been giving money and then this image came out but i will say this this is what management says too so i don't know if usher did or maybe someone in his entourage tried to be funny with the stupid money or something. And that's what happened, which is also possible. But I will say this. Anybody who's dealt drugs, worked a cashier or danced at a club knows the feeling of real money. And you would know if you were picking up some bullshit.

I mean, granted, there's probably tons of bills for you to handle at once, but I don't know. We'll see. I used to work at Pathmark and someone tried to pay for their groceries with usher bucks. And then you're just like, I, I, my heart's breaking for you.

I'll let this one slide. Yeah. Can't use it at Pathmark, but you can use it at most Ralphs. And yeah. Yeah. Kroger will take a blue face usher, usher hundreds.

I'm going to, I'm going to believe the dancer until we, we hear more, but it's, I want to hear the dancers of Sapphire say this, not the management of Sapphire. Right. But who, who initially posted it? I guess we don't have like great sourcing on this. don't have like great sourcing on this um yeah i mean jezebel has some they they they started looking around but mostly like the quotes they had were from other people commenting on how bullshit a move that is to do at a strip club which is oh wait i think uh jane jane mayer did in the new yorker i'm seeing she was dark. She has a recording. The Usher Raymond tip scandal. She's like, fuck that Coke Brothers piece I had. Y'all need to hear what Usher and his friends talk about on the way to Sapphire. They were throwing funny money out.

Anyways, Vegas stays getting really great talent. Shout out to anybody who's going to Vegas, getting to see us or getting to see who's, who's up right now. Katy Perry, I think has been up for a while. When are we going to get that? You know? I know. My, the Daily Zeitgeist Vegas residency.

Yeah. Residency. Oh God. Don't come to our show. It's a really good deal because you can be like one of three people in the audience and we'll just hang out with you. Yeah. It's like the local, like Vegas Zeitgang. They're just like, sorry, y'all. I mean, mean the first week was fun but it's kind of a lot i

got an old the tickets are kind of you guys think is going to be the first podcast to get a las vegas residency joe rogan yeah probably rogan and then i'll like kick your ass afterwards like i feel like josh and josh and chuck josh and chuck could Josh and Chuck could yo stuff you should know stuff you should know sell out there's massive yeah they do like arena shows yeah so that's I think based off the strength of that that translates like to this very but Rogan does have a draw to because

Vegas is a very UFC city FC yeah he like the audience then nominates someone to fight him at the end. Oh, shit. Yeah. And then if you beat him, then you get to do drugs with him the next day. No, no, that you become the Joe Rogan.

You become the... And then he has to fight his way back from the audience to get his spot back. That's dope. I mean, has marin done one of these because marin's stand-up is now basically like podcast format he's just like kind of riffing out there yeah so that do you think a las vegas audience wants to see a neurotic dude go through his like existential issues with death probably gonna die i'm gonna we're all gonna die where's seinfeld but you'd rather just be like to go see a stuff you should know she'll be like why are casinos so cold right you're like yeah

huh actually i want to go listen to whatever casino material they've done now what kind of casino material guys and then rogan's just like you know I don't know if like trans women should fight UFC like where's the line you know what I mean Elon yeah what the fuck is this is there some sort of spell or like

some sort of monkey paw thing where he agreed to become the most famous podcaster but he would like physically have to turn into alex jones because he's like looking more and more jonesy to me as late maybe he's connected maybe as alex jones's power wanes right it flows into him in the same way not not to bring this back to the beginning but seth cohen and ryan atwood. As Seth becomes a terrible character, Ryan Atwood becomes a better character. I feel like they're connected in that way.

In the same way Joe Rogan and Alex Jones are connected. In that sense, Alex Jones is the portrait of Dorian Gray. Right. Yeah. To Joe Rogan's Dorian Gray. Yes. I see. I see. I got a tweet that relates back to that that i will share at the end of this episode dorian gray and alex jones to dorian gray

which we have come to we have come to the end of the episode and andy as always man it's been so fun having you back on tdz where Where can people find you and follow you? everyone from Battlestar Galactica creator Ron D. Moore to Mac McCann, the lead singer of Superchunk. And then one I do with my wife, Naomi, called Couples Therapy, where we in quarantine, the show has become basically we answer listeners' relationship advice questions with someone

that we love, which includes everyone from Kumail to Tig. So check those out on wherever you get your podcast from. Hey, it's me, Shock Jock again. Hey! Shock it up! Is there a tweet or some of the work of social media

you've been enjoying? Yes. So this, in the last day or so, this is from Tristan underscore Isaac. It's just a couple tweets together, but basically this person says, I told a bootlicker that pizza delivery drivers have more dangerous jobs than cops. So they asked me who I'd rather call if my house was burglarized or my car stolen. experience than to have to answer a bunch of intrusive probing questions from a fascist who may or may not follow up with me six to 18 months later to tell me they picked someone up trying to

hawk my stereo and while he didn't have anything else of mine they're charging him with burglary and betting on a plea deal deal and my stereo is being held as evidence but i might be able to get it back after the trial except the cop copied down my address wrong. And after the property lockup can't contact me, they auctioned my boom box off for money to buy new guns with which that same cop uses to hold my neighbor's son at gunpoint because he matched the description of someone. And there has been a lot of burglaries in the area recently. And now that kid has PTSD and the cop gets a promotion and the person

caught with my stereo serving time. Plus the pizza would get there faster. Oh, yes. Damn. Goated. One of the greats. Holy shit. That was beautiful.

My favorite kind of construction of a simple answer, but just zooming the fuck in on that. You know, now that you mention it, uh, miles, where can people find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, Miles of Grey. Also, the other podcast, 420 Day Fiance, talking 90 Day and other trash TVs. The tweets that I like. First one from Molly Fitzpatrick, at Molly Fitz. Wait till America hears about birth control side effects.

Because there's been a lot of talk about these vaccines and blood clots. Mortal birth control. Pretty fucked up. It turns out. Yeah. Another one is from reductress at reductress. I gave a mouse a cookie and now I'm in a toxic one-sided relationship. Shout out to parents.

Uh, Chris Estrada at Chris Estrada 85. I know I went, I know I went to a hood high school because my 10th grade history teacher mr johnson aka da fari was a rapper with a feature on dr dray's the chronic 2001 whoa the fact that da fari was your i'm i need to i we need to have chris estrada on because i remember the da fari album. His shit was spelled like the Lakers font. Because he's so LA with it. Shout out DeFara.

And then finally. At Afro Elvin tweeted. The NYPD don't want you to know. That pouring a McDonald's large Sprite. Over those Robo dogs. Will instantly end their shit. That's all it takes. I do wonder if that's true.

They've made iPhones so I can now take them into the shower so I don't have to be alone with my own thoughts I do wonder if they've waterproofed those dogs tweet I've been enjoying is from Avery Edison who tweeted devil

you shall stay forever young but this picture of you will bear the marks of your sin dorian can i hide it well yes but dorian and there are no other consequences devil this this picture will become so foul dorian again probably i'll hide the picture uh enjoyed that i didn't i forgot that you were related to dorian gray miles that's fucking put me in that fucking lane i remember that i got excited when i first heard about i was like oh cool there's a character with my last name and then what the fuck is this dude talking about also joan halty catch fire tweeted hey quentin tarantino remember back in 2015 when you chucked

a fit because star wars was monopolizing the dome and it couldn't show the hateful eight this is your chance dude buy the dome never let another disney movie on that screen again yo this needs to happen get at me anybody who wants to like i want to see by the dome like these need to be boutique theaters like or fucking let the studios buy up a theater at a time turn them into dispensaries and

just like make movie like this is our chance to start over at ground zero with what a movie theater can be for real we need a film forum out here or an IFC theater out here for people who haven't heard they're shutting down the arc lights out here and I mean this is the thing like

I've always loved the fact that LA takes its film going very seriously and like the arc light was one of the main ways that we did that was like you could always see any movie and you would like be able to reserve a seat like back before that was even a thing and like they wouldn't let you in if you were late

and uh now very elitist you love to see it but yeah i mean like la it was la's answer to broadway it was like a broadcast answer to broadway hey folks welcome to this showing of exception you guys excited all right well my name is miles i'm going to be ensuring the quality of the sound and picture during the show the first 15 minutes because here at arc light we take the movie going super serious yeah okay please stop throwing shit at me uh we'll get the movie going every once in a while like you could see a uh like a director or like do a director q a after a movie like if you went the opening weekend uh yeah it was if i think in glorious bastards i saw the tarantino thing there did you really yeah and i that's when i was like i saw him for the

first time in person i was like i'm not a fan of this guy anymore is it true he made everyone take their shoes and socks off while he was doing that no no that was a different one this was like it he was just there to like talk before it wasn't like the full-blown one he just happened to be at the bar outside and he kept like chatting like these women up and like uh cadillac margarita that's what he kept drinking and then like making other people like who would talk to him he's like oh you don't like a cadillac margarita and i was like you're so sweaty sir i don't know what's going on like and you and you somehow you reek of cocaine i don't know how you did that that's amazing that where the insides of somebody else's nose smell like cocaine to other people oh yeah but shout out to him i mean he does like one of one of the great you know what i mean he and cocaine collaborated on some great scripts that is the personification of cocaine talking i'm

worried though that it's like amazon or some shit buys the dome and then we're right that's why i'm saying like artists need to get on this shit quick artists and drug dealers work together let's get some theaters up and running before fucking amazon buys them all and the only thing we can watch is like the jeff bezos biopic that he just produced uh that's got to be coming right like i feel like there should be a movement in la for for us to own the dome right like we own it yeah oh hashtag own the dome own the dome and, we own it. Yeah. Own the dome. Own the dome. And then we're like,

yo, we play with the fuck we want. Like, it's all, you know, like, it's collectively owned. We pay everybody good. We're not really interested in cashing out. We just want to keep the dome fucking our thing. Keep the dome our home. Yeah.

Own the dome. Start that GoFundMe. Yeah, let's do it. Hey, I'm about to run off with the money, though. dome our home yeah own the dome start start that go fund me yeah i mean how do you find out i'm about to run off with the money though that's one thing you should know is we will take that money it just said they're not opening who are they selling the land like who yeah they how do you even find out who owns that shit yeah i don't know whoever owns like that property i'd imagine like where that whole theater complex is. Right. I for like one minute when I heard this

I was like I'm gonna like try and do something with this and then I was like thinking about all the meetings with insufferable people that it would require to do that and how hard it would be and now I'm just putting it out there to Zeitgang. Figure it out.

Alright you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien you can find us it out there to Zeitgang. Figure it out. All right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. And we also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy.

Miles, what song are you linking off to? This is going to be just a really nice kind of new jazzy joint called Grosh Joint. G-R-O-S-C-H Joint. It's by Matthias Bubla and Max Grosh. Grosh. Forgive my pronunciation. But there's a lot of tight Bubla and Max Grosch. Grosch. Forgive my pronunciation, but there's a lot of tight drumming and keyboard playing in here.

And it's nice to just, you know, hear some humans play their instruments. You know, that's a sound I think we miss. So, we're going out on that one. My mouth has been missing the sound of Grosch. I just like making that. Alright, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio.

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