The Daily Zeitgeist - Coupchella Finale? OMG GOP STFU PLS 09.28.22

Episode Date: September 28, 2022

In episode 1340, Miles and guest co-host DJ Danl Goodman are joined by writer and comedian, Ellory Smith, to discuss... COUPCHELLA WEEKEND 2, OMG GOP STFU PLS, Pop-Culture Is Obsessed With The “Satanic Panic”, Why Netflix Keeps Making (Gross) True Crime Shows and more! COUPCHELLA WEEKEND 2 Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton fled his home to avoid being served with subpoena, court record says  OMG GOP STFU PLS Pop-Culture Is Obsessed With The “Satanic Panic” Devilish Danny DeVito Cartoon Sparks GOP Satanic Panic Riverdale's Satanic Panic storyline is completely irresponsible ‘Satanic worship, sodomy and even murder’: how Stranger Things revived the American satanic panic of the 80s Why Netflix Keeps Making (Gross) True Crime Shows Why Netflix's Jeffrey Dahmer series is receiving so much backlash My brother was murdered by Jeffrey Dahmer. Here's what it was like watching the Netflix show that recreated the emotional statement I gave in court. What Do the Families of Ted Bundy's Victims Think of the Netflix Documentary? The most respectful Jeffrey Dahmer TV show is one that doesn't exist at all Netflix slammed by ‘disgusted’ and ‘gobsmacked’ viewers after adding LGBTQ+ tag to Jeffrey Dahmer series LISTEN: Murciana by Maestro EspadaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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My name is Miles Gray, the Lord of Lakershim, a.k.a. Hideo Noho out here. You know, throwing no-hitters with a blunt in his mouth, making it look so easy. You know what I mean? Shout out to the 818. And I am thrilled to be joined by my guest co-host, the brilliant DJ, producer, Twitch streamer, host, podcast, raconteur, if I may say so myself. Please welcome to the stage DJ Daniel Goodman. What up, what up? It's DJ Daniel, a.k.a. Bowtie Mike Guy, a.k.a. Government. Because you gotta have these things to help us remember.

Oh, you say it? Government. Yeah, you know, West End is up. There are governments up there as well. But yeah, happy to be here. I will also remember to take a picture with the bow tie on the mic this time because people added me on Twitter. I just added the bow tie to the mic and I talked about it on the last episode. Someone was like, okay, show

bow tie. I was like, oh shit. I thought they were calling you a show boat. I? I see. But anyway. Please, please, please, please, please, please, please. Hold on, please. Can you clear the stage really quick? Sure. I'm out.

Can you clear the fucking stage? Okay. I'm out. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Because we have a fantastic guest, somebody who we love to have on this show. You may know her from you know tv comedy prop fucking

podcasting being out in the fucking streets as an activist you might know her from funalingus maybe you might know her from the city council show please welcome to the stage new york's very own ellery smith i love that you know i'm from new york yeah i remember you saying that i remember you saying like way back you were like from like the New York nobody really talks about. I'm from a small ass town near the Canadian border. 1,600 people. Wow. Still New York.

Still New York. Still New York fam. Right. Because I think I remember being like, yeah, LRB is one of those New York comedians. And you were like, I'm not really like I'm from the state of New York. But I'm not a like city of New Yorker type person. Boston is closer than New York City is to my hometown. Oh, okay.

So it's very New England-y. New England vibes. It's very New England-y. And when I do shows, I tend to do Boston instead of New York. Interesting. Okay. Word up. How are you doing right now?

How's new? What's new? I said, how's new? What's new? How is new? I'm chilling. Living the dream. Working a lot of day jobs.

Babysitting a lot is my new gig yeah so i'm open for any staffing opportunities if anybody's listening yeah funny very talented please do having a good time you know loving la okay are you how are you like in this fake ass fall we're having right now people do the listeners fucking fake hands for my ass and also yesterday dramos came for me because he's in New York. I'm like, yeah, I don't know if I'm ready for fall. Meanwhile, people in other states are like, summer was over seven weeks ago for us.

I'm never ready for fall. Actually, we'll get into it when we do over underrated, but I think fall is overrated. Tanks are flying. Wait, but Daniel, that's like when you come out, like you're out of your cocoon, I feel like. Because that's for you.

I know you as somebody who is animated by the pumpkin spice. Oh, you caught me. So I always think, honestly, I cannot separate pumpkin spice without thinking of you. So good job, Brandi. First of all, I'm honored by that. Thank you. You honor me for the pumpkin spice.

You're a PSL lady? look, everybody's got to have something that they unabashedly stand for no reason whatsoever. And you know what? Absolutely, lady.

The PSL is the one. I'll stand for everything else that's good and pure in the world, but like, I just got to get a sip of it sometimes. I think that's great. That's me and soggy fries.

There you go. You know, I don't give a fuck. I'm out of here. That's me and onion rings. You love onion go. You know, I don't give a fuck. I'm out here. That's me and onion rings. You love onion rings? I love onion rings. Love onion rings.

They're great. You like onion strings? I do like onion strings as well. And I also love a bloomin' onion. Oh. I mean, those aren't really hot takes, I feel like. Those aren't hot takes. Those are very popular items.

Those are fucking onion rings. Those are very popular items. The soggy fries thing, people really fucking hate that shit. I'm like, I don't give a fuck. I like wet matchsticks. Are they thick fries or are they thin? I don't give a fuck. Just like floppy, they're flying in my mouth.

You know what I mean? And you can extract that, quote that, and put it on a plaque. And use it for your shit post. I don't care. I am secure. I'll be putting it on a tote bag for sure. If it's floppy, it's flying in my mouth now that's crazy i'm shocked we haven't talked about that yet i feel like i'm missing the boat on your soggy fry

love this is a new one for me that's why i like because when people are like yo i fucking hate in and out fries i'm like motherfucker i i tell them give me light fries light which means floppy was like be like like it's not no well done for miles no well yeah done. Yeah. And I was just saying, I was in Seattle visiting some family and I went to Dick's, like their local burger spot up there. Their fries are little thin floppies too. And I was like, baby, I'm here. They rock the thin floppy. Okay.

Interesting. Anyway, shout out. The size for me, I'm not a fan of the thin fry or the small fry. And I think In-N-Out tends to do too crispy. Like their default is a little too overdone yeah all right because they expect that people will put the sauces on them yes no no no no no no no no not for me i'm a traditionalist dude you get animal fries light they're gonna like call the cops on you why are you eating this shit like this you are raw potatoes yeah

they're like bro we can just give you some potatoes and get out of here. Leave. But anyway, before we go down our track of usual questions, let's let the listeners know what we're going to be talking about. We're going to preview Cucello, as I call it, weekend two, because this is it. This is what they're saying. This is it. This is our last hearing unless we hear something weirder. But we'll talk about what they might be talking about and some other developments, as well as just, man, the fucking geo. Just this John Fetterman versus Dr. Oz thing is so, so stupid. I had to clap back on Newt Gingrich on Twitter.

Not that I was like... Oh, that's my tweet for today, too. It's like, I'm wrong. God damn it, guys. What, the Newt Gingrich tweet? Yeah, where he's like why does fetterman have a tattoo that says i will make you hurt so good well like there were multiple tattoos that are multiple tweets that reference his tattoos so we'll get into just like the saddest fucking

like attacks from the right on john fetterman having tattoos or wearing a hoodie because that's where we're at like they have nothing else in their quiver to fire in his direction uh then we'll probably get into some you know return of the satanic panic and why netflix just can't stop fucking re-traumatizing a serial killer victim with their stupid remakes spoiler alert you know that jeffrey dahmer thing it's not the only dahmer thing coming out what just so you know just so you know whoa i Dahmer thing? It's not the only Dahmer thing coming out. What? Just so you know, just so you know, just put that in your pipe.

Don't quite spark it yet. Maybe half it for later. And then we'll hit that fully in act three. But first, Ellery Smith from the small town of New York that's on the border of Canada, please tell us something from your search history that's revealing about who you are. It's not really revealing about who I am, but I did want to get your insight on it.

I am looking for overnight parking at LAX. Oh, okay. What are you trying to do? What's the best? I am actually going home for like four days. Nice. Thank you so much. But when I come back, I land at 11.

I have to babysit at 12 in the Palisades. So I can't take an Uber to the airport because then I would have to take three Ubers. Right, right, right. So I have to babysit at 12 in the Palisades. So I can't take an Uber to the airport because then I would have to take three Ubers. So I have to park overnight. What is the quickest way that I can get my car when I return? That's also cheap. Okay. Look, there's a few things, right? You can do quick park. You can do the parking spot. You could do the Sonesta Hotel that's on Century that has their own i feel like the sonesta which used to be the crown plaza look talking from laog over here the sonesta has like a like there it's a little bit of ways but it's pretty close to the why am i selling fucking

off-site parking for fucking lax right now i know you're right you're right and look i'm not going to withhold this information that's i feel like my, we grew up using the Crown Plaza, which is now the Sonesta Hotel. They have like a parking facility near their off century. A lot of people try quick park, too. And I feel like that that works as well. I mean, the biggest thing is like you should look at the ratings and just see how on point their their term their like terminal shuttles are. That is that's the thing that fucks people up. You get there too close to your, or not too close,

but give yourselves the ability for them to fuck up and not get your ass out of there for 45 minutes to an hour. Build that in. Aye, aye, aye. Then you won't be stressed. One of the things is I can't because I land at 11 and I have to work at noon. So I'm 45 minutes away.

I'm saying on your way out. On your way back, typically those are going pretty frequently. And I think the other thing with the Sonesta one is because there's a cluster of hotels in, you could hop on one of them hotel shuttles you see that going over there. So you got options. That's how you got to think. This has been great. This is really good insight. I'm glad that I said that. The hotels are the big one. That's a huge bonus right there because of how close they get to everything else. Quick Park is good because they have the most shuttles, but also Lot C. Lot C is also a nice cheap spot that you can get to.

It's a tiny bit further out, but it is always available. And they have shuttles. And they have shuttles. And you can prepay for that, too. Bam. With new reserved parking from L.A. New reserved parking from LA. New reserved parking?

What the fuck? See, the city of LA already knows. They're like, he's a good steward of the city. He will broadcast all the parking deals. Yeah, they need to run you a check. Yeah, there's also, if you just search, there's like a website that aggregates like all the rates too. All of the options. You can just put in the dates that you need and you can get an idea. What works for you?

And I won't say that website because they don't pay me. And also, I'm so high that I forget a lot of website. But yeah, good to know. Good to know. What's something you think is overrated, Ellery? We touched on this earlier. I think fall and winter are overrated. Go on.

Go off. In what sense? They're nice for like a week. I mean, I get it. Yeah. But I hate the time change. I hate the night coming sooner. I mean, I get it. Yeah. But I hate the time change. I hate the night coming sooner. I love summer.

And in LA, nobody works during the summer, basically. Everybody has summer Fridays. We're really sort of like a vacation culture. And so I just don't like, I don't know, maybe it's like a back to school leftover feeling. But I feel like I'm always chasing summertime. Like by the time it's May, I'm like, yes, we're ready. We're in it. Yeah.

We're in it. And then around here, I'm like, sure, the leaves sort of change, but it's not like, I don't know. There's just more debris on the ground. That's really the only difference. Yeah, that's true. I'm not. Daniel, how do you feel about these colder months?

You know, it's colder months is almost an exaggeration we're talking like a maybe a 10 to 15 degree drop in temperature at absolute most and maybe instead of wearing a t-shirt you wear a long sleeve shirt and god forbid a sweater i will say god forbid motherfucker i'll wear a north face that's what i was about to say is that like i look at my closet and i pray to be able to bust out a letterman jacket or oh my god not literally anything that's just see this is what you see and this is the big west coast east coast divide on this because yesterday our guest is it is a new yorker and we're and i was talking about oh i love the cold and he's like basically like you don't know the cold you don't know the cold the cold is disneyland to you. You stop by that motherfucker for a day.

You're like, yeah, yeah. You don't live there where you slowly start losing your mind because you've seen Fantasmic every fucking night three times in a row. Yeah. Where it's dark at 4 p.m. It's too cold to leave your apartments. It also doesn't get cold in New York the way that it used to when I was a kid. But I remember like because at my high school, you had to cross the street for like to go between buildings.

And I remember being so cold that like the earrings would freeze in my ears. Like, or the snot, my nose would have icicles, like painful, like stinging your skin cold. That's so cool.

Like the movie, like the movie Dumb and Dumber. A post nasal drip that freezes in there. Horrible. Just so awful. Really awful. Or going outside with wet hair and having your hair freeze.

Would know that. I'm bald. So try another angle. That's a win in my column still. Although my bald head would probably freeze. It's just like, okay. I keep saying this and I have to do, I really just need to do like a cultural exchange with someone in like the deep freeze and be like, look, bro.

Yes. You stay in my spot. You have to go for like more than a month. Yeah. Like I want to like I want to know be like, OK, mother. Oh, you can chop your wood, too. Yeah. You get that stove going.

I'll be like, you know, legitimately what we did in my house. I had a wood stove. Yeah. I'm so like my mom grew up in a really cold part of Japan. i i'm so like my mom grew up in a really cold part of japan so like going to certain parts of like really cold winter japan is the same shit where it's like you gotta get you gotta wake up keep that fucking stove going in the middle of the night and shit unless you want to wake up to some nonsense frozen with all your pipes frozen right and insulation isn't that like big of a thing with like older built homes there too so i'm willing i saw somebody who was like come out to winnipeg

i feel like one of that gang was like okay like come out to winnipeg i feel like one of that gang was like okay fool come out to winnipeg see what's up come see no this motherfucker in his picture like all his shit was frozen on his face and i'm like okay i'm down to try it i feel like i would just smoke weed all day and be like oh look at the snow man that's cool we'll see yeah we'll see but yeah i'm it's all it's the fashion you know it's the fashion it's the fashions honestly that's i'm not gonna lie it is again this is a definitely a disneyland ass take but i just want to wear the clothes i have i just want to wear my mickey ears i just want to wear the mickey ears and go out that is like the funniest part about moving out here is

that when it hits 65 degrees people wear canada goose down jackets fucking scarves and shit gloves i'll never wear gloves you'll never you'll never catch me wearing gloves that's like that's my god wait until you go to winnipeg oh no that's what i'm saying is that's like my cold water like my cold weather rubicon i will not cross in in la which is to put gloves on i'm like that's not unless i'm riding a bike and it's really cold fine like i'll do that to keep my hands warm but it's really cold, fine. Like I'll do that to keep my hands warm, but it's the East Coast or places with actual winter,

the gloves do come out. Amen. Amen. But yeah, and oh, sorry, I have to keep harping on fashion. All it took was a New Yorker

to be like, damn, he's like, you look like a New Yorker when I was in New York during like the winter and I was like, oh my God.

Okay. All of a sudden, the Timbs just emerged onto my feet. I had tearaway shoes that revealed Timbs underneath. That's so funny. And then Shook One started playing out of my fucking speakerphone. Yankee

fitted just emerging from the forehead. Sticker still on. Sticker still on. Always. My head turns to a Yankee fitted. What's something you think is underrated, Ellery? I think meaningless jobs are a little underrated. Go on. Yeah.

So there's like, I've been thinking about this a lot lately. And obviously, like, there's something really soul-sucking about a meaningless job. But I've worked a lot of service industry jobs while, you know, pursuing. Thank you so much. Yeah. I mean, Labor Day is all about us. Yeah, yeah. But.

Facts. Working a job where you're allowed to burn bridges. i was a line cook and i walked out fire i can't tell you how empowering that is like it's so special to literally just be able to be like hey fuck you yeah and it doesn't affect your career at all because you don't want to work in whatever industry that is yeah it's that's the same feeling I had when I worked in radio. Cause I was like, I worked at used to work at this radio station. I fucking hated my bosses.

I'm like, these people are so far off the fucking mark with everything. I can't stand these fucking people. And I was like, I'm a fucking rage quit. I kept telling my fucking, I'm like, I'm rage quitting out this month.

Just wait. And then they're like, I don't know. You never know. And I had the same idea which i would be like what so they can tell me i'm never gonna work in rap radio in los angeles again i'm not trying i'm not even on the fucking air what the fuck are you talking about and then oddly enough i'm working in audio but i definitely have that same feeling where i was like this is a job i

could get the fuck on out like i remember i got another job and i just say yo i'm out of here and they're like what about your two weeks i'm I'm like, you can have it if you want. But I'm just saying, you know, I'm out of here. They kicked my ass out that day. Wow. They fucking marched my day. Like I was in the middle of saying goodbye. I just told him I was like, yo, I can give you two weeks.

Like if that helps, you know, but I'm trying to really get out of here. And they're like, oh, OK, great. Next thing I know, security is like, hey, man, we got to escort you out the building. And I'm like, y'all are salty but i loved it i loved it because they had to pay me still for those two weeks you don't get the fuck out that's what i'm saying yeah it was it was they're like you could become a distraction oh yeah i bet yeah because i'm because i'm taking everybody with me yeah because i everybody else walks that's always my favorite i'm not my favorite thing but you know when you're at a job and like everybody's on the same page like my fuck this place and like

you that was my line cook job three people quit the same day and i was one of them wow yeah good for you yeah it was amazing it was the best i was also one of those jobs were like i started where it was near my house here so i could just walk down and I went in at like four or 5 a.m. But because I didn't deal with customers, I would go in so fucking stoned, just so stoned. Right. And just like work my whole shift like that and be done at noon. Burning the onion rings. Oh, literally burning the tater tots.

So, so bad. Extra, extra crispy. Fucking up burritos like nobody's business. It was great. Fire. The guy who ran our fryer sold mushrooms out of the back of that restaurant. Oh like nobody's business. It was great. Fire. The guy who ran our fryer sold mushrooms out of the back of that restaurant. Oh, that's fun. Oh, I love that.

What is this, The Bear? What is this? No, I wish. Not as cinematic. Nobody gets paid that much. Holy shit, yeah. Shout out to the people who all quit together. You know what's wild, though, too?

I feel like there's a relationship to the shittier the job, the higher likelihood of you being friends with those people after you get the fuck out of there. Yeah. Forged in the fire. Yeah, for real. All my friends I wish to work with on the radio, I'm still super tight with them. And it's only a few jobs or my old coworkers from a job. I've had a few jobs since then that were still, you know, still tight.

So that's tight. Shout out to bonding under cool conditions. I had a kind of opposite experience with my serve, my time in the service industry. I worked at a t-shirt shop, which is kind of a different service, but I worked at a t-shirt shop and the t-shirt shop closed. Pardon me?

Heat pressing? Straight slang and t-shirts. Okay. You know, like Jersey Shore style. Jersey Shore style. Oh, I used to press them.

I had a job. That's a whole nother thing. That's tight. Okay. But the t-shirt shop closed and didn't even let me know. And I just, I just showed up the next summer to be like, Hey,

so what's good. And the shop was just closed. Something else was there entirely. And I was like, Oh, all right, that's tight. They're like,

nothing is good on me. Yeah. You're like, Oh, they've reached, they they rage quit on me they're just like no we're not even selling t-shirts anymore

go find another job go work at the battery store I mean the t-shirt economy is fragile it is fragile let me tell you something people did not want

a t-shirt with a stack of flapjacks that said I'm a hot mess on it so aww I know it was a little pat of butter with eyes on it

it said I'm a hot mess aww okay hot mess adorable Oh, okay. Hot mess. Adorable. Adorable. I wish I still had that t-shirt. I wish I still had that one t-shirt.

Oh, well. Is that on t-shirts that go hard? God damn it should be. Okay. I'll talk to Chrissy Yamaguchi-Mann or whoever runs that account. Yeah, for real. For real. Okay.

Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. I guess we'll take a break. Let's take a break. It's about that time. We'll be right back and we'll talk about some news. Hey, I'm Gianna Prudente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like,

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But quick update because the world is in flux. The hearing has been postponed because of the hurricane. So just so you know, when we say today, that hearing actually isn't happening, but I'm sure you know that by now. Okay. Enjoy. And we're back. What's thatochella ella ella a a weekend two uh has arrived uh today is the final final hearing of the fuckery accountability project otherwise known as fap most members have said that this is it no more at least in terms of presenting new information. So since the last hearing, we were all wondering. I think the big thing was like, what happened? All those fucking Secret Service text messages.

Hey, yeah, that's dark as fuck. Are you serious? And since then, there's been like the the IG of the Department of Homeland Security launched like an investigation into the deleted text. the Department of Homeland Security launched an investigation into the deleted texts. And then since then, apparently the Secret Service collected like 24 agents' phones and then handed them over to the inspector general. So that information has made its way to the committee. They said they're looking at like nearly a million pages of shit relating to calls and texts from them.

It might not be as good as the shit that they were explicitly looking for, but I guess it provides additional context, whatever that means. Adam Schiff is really selling this last hearing with some very cool, vague language. Oh, they get it. We're not disclosing yet what the focus will be. This is of the last hearing. I can say that as this may be the last hearing of this nature, that is one that is focused on sort of the factual record. I think it'll be potentially more focused on sort of the factual record i think

it'll be potentially more sweeping than some of the other hearings oh what a what a just a gray blob of a cell right there like now i can't say it might kind of be good from a factual standpoint so and it may be more sweeping than others potentially but i love those user like potentially more to me like and i don't know if it's not then i'm gonna say well potentially had the potential to be this is so groomed after having so many hearings of like gang this is the one where we're gonna get him and after this hearing and hearing with different people after your comies after your your robert muller's after your Comey's, after your Robert Mueller's, after your everything. I didn't even finish his quote, Daniel.

I didn't finish his quote. Give him a break. One second. Let me finish the back half of this. But it too will be very thematic. No? Okay. How about this?

It will tell the story about a key element of Donald Trump's plot to overturn the election. That's from 40,000 feet above. Go on. And the public will certainly learn things it hasn't seen before, but will also understand information it already has in a different context by seeing how it relates to other elements of this plot. Oh, my God.

Bro, we get it. Like, we get it. We saw it. We all saw it it we know what the fuck happened like nobody here i get that you're also trying to build your case to potentially maybe sway some people but the polling already shows republic most republicans aren't fucked they don't they don't give a fuck they don't care and i'm also like if it doesn't result in a recommendation for charges it's just a waste of money well that is the good thing they all feel that you they will probably most likely be unanimous in their criminal yeah so there's that there's that but again like the only thing that would come up even close to being like a bombshell at this point is like trump on video like doing a zoom call with rioters in

the building telling them to go off that's what they're releasing today is i heard that they're going to talk about the phone calls that were made from the white house in like that missing time period yeah and i also heard jenny thomas is going to testify or was that last they said that they they believe like again adam shiff was like i believe we have an agreement or i think jamie raskin said that lawyer yeah jamie raskin said that who is truly a lawyer and we really gave that sort of the description of where they were with that but the clock is ticking for the committee because as it stands you know if you look at polling and just sort of the projections of the midterm elections potentially potentially uh the

republicans could take the house which means no more subpoena power so the committee is really working to publish their final report before the start of the new congress so and kevin mccarthy made it a point to be like if i'm house speaker we're gonna go after democrats and like call you to some council or whatever exactly investigation which is an interesting motivating tactic when like there's like horrible things happening like you're not gonna take like take a look at the economy right now and be like you know the fed's like i think we need more unemployment huh how about you can't even like the fucking fed i'm like what about price caps what about that why don't we ever but it's always always like labor has to suffer dude literally he

literally said we need to bring wages down yeah i could beat the shit out of that guy to say that like with a straight face with a straight face and he's like well some people will have to suffer why is it always the people at the bottom that have to suffer well i don't know them that's why exactly at the top that have my phone number that are like, yo, man, these broke motherfuckers are wilding out asking for fucking $20 an hour. I'm saying this is a way better wrestling promo than whatever Adam Schiff is trying to do here with this. Oh, we might actually do something. I want the Ellery Smith, Kevin McCarthy.

I'll beat the shit out of you. That's fine. Well, I was talking about the Fed, Jerome Powell, but I will beat the shit out of Kevin McCarthy as well. Well, I was talking about the Fed, Jerome Powell, but I will beat the shit out of Kevin McCarthy as well. When this recession hits, people need to remember this is not because of people needing help in the pandemic or asking for wages or inflation. But that's exactly how it will be talked about. But that's how they're framing it. That's the mainstream media. Spain is doing a temporary tax on the 1% to alleviate inflation, which is exactly what we should be doing.

And it's temporary. But, dude, the things that Reagan did to alleviate inflation. Which is exactly what we should be doing. And it's temporary. But dude, the things that Reagan did to this country. Yeah. Facts. You know? And I think, look, we look and we're looking at a consistent sort of cycle of these really bad faith stories

and arguments where the Fed says something and then economists you'll see one sense economists believe that inflation is actually not because of that it's actually because of uh you know like the fucking the war in ukraine massive profits that are being held on to and like manufactured scarcity to rank anyway whatever but the rest of it will be like those motherfuckers had the gall to ask for more money and again this is a cycle you see the labor will become powerful you can manufacture a recession fucking kneecap the movement and have another solid 10 or 15 years of people being so

scared of asking for fucking raises because they just went through a recession that completely set them back and that they're happy to accept scraps yeah which is why mutual aid and solidarity are the two most important things that we can hold on to yeah amen i hope it's different this time around but you know you turn on any every fucking channel and they're like such just without critically thinking about anything it's like you know and the increase in wages is really putting pressure on employers finish the fucking sentence which is that what they will make show me in dollars and cents how much money less money they fucking make because it's not that businesses will

be in trouble no they fucking won't record profits for everybody but labor yeah nah nah nah miss me with all of that shit yeah but again please stay savvy zeitgeist because what you like will read and i know it was talked about in other episodes with NPR just being like, Whoa, I don't know. It could be these other really fucking non-issues that we're connecting to this crisis. It's greed. It's greed. 100%. And we can't keep defaulting to like, oh, workers are asking for more. What we need to be asking is why are what? Hello.

Why are we just letting them fucking abscond with all this money every fucking time? That's where it is. Moving on. Sidetrack there. I just do want to say this. Just speaking very quickly about accountability in Texas. Attorney General Ken Paxton, who's a massive fucking turd. He has been he's caught in all kinds of fraud schemes

he's like he's been indicted he's like trying to run from all kinds of charges literally uh right now he's being sued by a group of non-profits that want to help out of state or who want to help people get out of state abortion access like they want to help fund that for people in texas because their laws are so fucked up and backwards. So a process server, you know, like has to show up to serve him the papers. And this guy pulls up to his house and he, he knocks on the door. His wife was like, he's not, he he's on a call. He can't, I don't, I gotta go, but close the door on him. This dude's waiting a fucking hour. Cause he's like, no, this dude's fucking here. And I will read this. This is a quote from the process server quote.

I walked up the driveway. This is after he's been waiting. I walked up the driveway approaching Mr. Paxton and called him by his name. As soon as he saw me and heard me call his name out, he turned around and ran back inside into the house through the same door in the garage. Then his wife exited, got inside a Chevy truck in the driveway, started it and opened the doors. A few minutes later, I saw Mr. Paxton ran from the door inside the garage towards the rear door behind the driver's side. I approached the truck and loudly called him by his name and stated

that I had court documents for him. Mr. Paxton ignored me and kept heading for the truck. He basically then closed the doors, fucking off and the guy was like just so you know i'm these papers right here i'm putting down i'm serving your ass you got served honey and the fucking cars peeled off leaving the papers behind my gosh and his office is now being like oh my god you know the thing is we don't know it's so wild out there we don't have some kind of violent extremist was trying to pull up to him uh you him and assault him with a manila envelope. Envelope? Incredible.

You assaulted me by serving me papers, actually. Yeah, that's a good defense. I gotta remember that for the future. Well, hopefully I don't have to remember that. For when you get served with papers. Everybody remember that one. Well, I didn't want to get assaulted. Yeah, you do that scene in Jackass where they did the paper cuts between the webbing and their fingers, and you're like, and that's what could have happened to me my honor i did not need to be reminded of

that right now now my thingies are hurting oh i'm sorry i only look i only speak in mtv yeah i'm a truly well there are five movies so that's okay yeah seriously okay moving on just to pennsylvania uh the senate race there between dr o Oz and John Fetterman is just always, it's probably been the most entertaining race so far in the midterms. On the trending episode on Monday, we talked about how Newt Gingrich was like, why does Fetterman have tattoos that say, I will make you hurt? What is nine inch? What? And Johnny, what? Everyone was like, what the fuck is going on?

And dude, despite him being fucking thoroughly dragged on that tweet, he fucking came back around with another. He doubled down on it again. He tweeted his Pennsylvania Democrat Fetterman's tattoo. Quote, I will make you hurt based on his ties to the Crips gang as reported by the Free Beacon or a reference to the Nine Inch Nails heroin song. Fetterman won't

answer questions. I replied to him just with a picture from the rehearsal of Nathan Fielder's son saying, you're a fucking disaster, my guy. What are you talking about? The Cri crips gang i'm also like you cheated on your dying wife which is worse yeah first first your first wife you said too ugly to be first lady then you put on your then wasn't that the same wife was he said oh you're

on your deathbed battling cancer i'm trying to marry my mistress legit can you sign these papers please and that's exactly what he did. And a lot of people pointed that out, I think, because they're like, dude, what? You're a fucking scumbag. Well, like you, you're not you're not you had to resign from the speakership because of your infidelities. And it was just such a distraction. But anyway, that's him. of people now it's like really clear the race is between a normal dude that is relatable to the voters in pennsylvania and the most whack ass uncool buster ass mark ass poser and at first

you know i thought he could fat shame himself to victory when he was like well why'd this guy have a stroke because he's all big probably and eats like crap and people like what the fuck is that then he started doing those terrible like attack ads. All those things fucking backfired spectacularly. And now he is trying to like attack that John Fetterman isn't like a whack ass boring dude. I'm not sure what this take is, but this is him on some radio show talking about how this dude wears like federman's got a costume like it's just an image and like people need to be real up on like what he's really trying to tell people uh with his fucking looks it's all a message he's making

him sound so kicking authority in the ball sounds so cool it does sound back on the costume a little bit because it's interesting phenomenon i was stunned by it as well but it turns out that if you're a far-left radical built with the belief that this country is irredeemably stained you just want to break it apart just bust america crack it to its base break it asunder and rebuild it with your toxic ideology that's what he stands for when he dresses like that it's not an accident he's kicking authority in the balls yeah you say hey i'm the man i'm gonna i'll show those guys who's who's boss i'm gonna not allow any traditional path to succeed because by breaking some parts of it down i can represent i can break it all down okay great huh sounds so cool and tight it's accident. Yeah. He's kicking authority in the balls. In the balls.

That's awesome. That's a great tag. John Fetterman already, he's selling merch that says, John Fetterman kicking authority in the balls. Fuck yeah. I'm getting to it. This campaign is so good. They're like, bro, you owned.

You self-owned again. Again and again. What is his take? Well, I think for Oz, he wants to make fetterman seem like an extremist and because the real problem oz has been having in that campaign is that he is not an everyman and like he is so disconnected from the working person's experience and fetterman is not but it's been really refreshing to see the way that the fetterman campaign has is just like so modern and it's it's so good in the fact that it's leaning in to a lot

of the things that like you see other more traditional democrats try to lean away from yeah and his like rhetorical aikido with attacks well he's like bro you can try and you use that against me watch me take this and fucking turn this right back at you and now i've raised a million dollars off your exactly but also it works so much better when it's genuine, too, because you look at the kind of like the dark Brandon stuff with Joe Biden, and it just like feels super hacky and whack. But when you are a genuine candidate like Fetterman is, it plays so much more real. And it's just very much taking the attack and turning it into something positive, which is just like, which is nice to see. It's a good change in politics. And it's a good it's a it's a good move for someone who is genuine from the start well that's what i feel like that's what

kind of going on right like we're we're at this generational shift where boomer shit doesn't work anymore and they're all confused they're like what the fuck this shit used to be popping 20 years ago 40 years ago we could we could waltz into a fucking election win with these really dumb takes and really like just overly simplified arguments not have to argue policy and now people will be like yo motherfucker you're stupid what the fuck crudity and they're like oh my god that video and like they're fucking melting down to the point that all newt gingrich has now is like the Crips gang. Motherfucker, you sound like the old chain emails from AOL.

Literally. From like our aunts that were like, don't sit on a movie theater seat. If somebody flashes their headlights at you in traffic. Oh, no. Don't pull over. Don't pull over. Someone put a dirty heroin needle on a theater seat. Always check.

And it said, welcome to the world of hepatitis. Like that kind of shit. And like, same thing with the fentanyl, too. I was just going to say, it's like rainbow fentanyl. Rainbow fentanyl. We're like, bro, everybody has done drugs enough to know. That's not how it works. You're talking to a different generation now.

Completely. If anything, speak to how fucking nihilistic we all feel. You might win off of that. But I don't think they get that quite yet. No. But to go on, Kellyanne Conway also decided to throw her little hat in the ring and be like, Okay, fuck it. We can't hit him on policy or anything that makes sense or is coherent.

Let's lean into the, this guy thinks everything's cool and a joke well that's not the case here is kellyanne conway also helping out the discourse in his life sean he hasn't worked a day as lieutenant governor he put the marijuana flag up he thought that was funny he's trolling his opponent he thinks that's funny here's what's not funny. That there's been a doubling of overdose sets in Pennsylvania while he's been in office from 2015 to 2021. Fentanyl is rankling every corner of the state.

Rankling? Okay. Alright. I've never heard rankling before. Also, what's the marijuana flag? I missed that one. It's a pot leaf, right? On a flag? I guess. A green pot leaf on a black flag? That's what I'm assuming. I guess so. Yeah.

You guys aren't stoners like I'm a stoner. You don't get it. Yeah, I'm behind. To me, it's like, I mean, all three of us are pretty much equally heavy in the game. And I think, what would you even conceive of as the marijuana flag? I mean, I guess, like, to your point, it would just be like a fucking weed leaf. But even then, it sounds like a fish concert. I don't know.

Like she again, she has like annoying stepmom energy. Like, you know, what's not funny, guys? All the overdose deaths. And I'm like, OK, well, let's be real about. Do you know what those are? Those are despair deaths. Deaths of despair. Absolutely.

They're so deeply tied to capitalism what are you and let's talk if we're going to talk about overdose deaths let's talk about the sackler family let's talk about the opioid crisis let's talk about businesses that are able to claim bankruptcy so that people who sue them and want restitution can't get any no well i just wanted to mainly just say simplify simplify all of that to say, John Fetterman killed all those people. I'm sorry. That other stuff is a little too real for this debate at the moment. I can't parse that out.

I want to pull her hair so bad. I really do. I do. I just want to like, like use like an old school bellows, like those little, like air, and just,

I feel like she's so off balance, like one good bellows. those like air and just I feel like she's so off balance like one good bellows pull her away we're setting up a really good title card for the Ellery Smith versus the world wrestling match versus the world I guess I'm I'm feeling it today typically I'm a pacifist but sometimes these

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Bruce Bozzi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And I think these two things probably tie together but first i just broadly want to talk just the satanic panic how much that's really coming back i mean we always talk about how that's like always like a simmering thing that is willing to prop back up but right now like we just have it's it's it's really really potent especially with all the q anon nonsense that we're seeing and how much like donald trump is like leaning into it and hearing more of his followers like talk about how it's like it's not just politics anymore. It's like, no, like there's something really evil about Joe Biden and it's not the creeping forces of capitalism. It's something a little more spooky.

And right now there's like people were freaking out about that fucking Danny DeVito cartoon where he's playing satan like god where people were like i don't it's like this is just too much uh who was it i feel like it was mike johnson the congressman from louisiana said i'm just so disturbed by it and said i'm wondering how many kids are exposed to that this is so old that's what i'm like these people are so artless so without culture so like without i don't know joy or experimentation right yeah and i'm like they need more nasty in their lives that's all i'm gonna say about they need more nasty in their lives for sure or mickey avalon whatever however you want to do it you want to do it just get a little bit more culture in your life please just get fucking weird y'all and then like in our popular culture right there's like like in i guess in 2018 riverdale had like a season-long arc like dnd thing that was like killing people which is like very much like in

line with like those 80s conspiracy theories like with teen deaths and many were like yo this is like irresponsible because you're like you're like giving credence to something that was total bullshit anyway. And then even Stranger Things, we saw it again, where the D&D players themselves were being the focus of all the people in the town with their pitchforks and shit. Like, we got to find this D&D group, which I think was a little more realistic to things that had actually occurred. But even on Peac peacock they just green lit a show called hysteria and it's a quote coming of age thriller set during the 80s satanic panic about a metal band accused of murder and the west memphis three right like what like what what are we saying with these or is it trying to just kind of help because it's like front of mind?

Like there's another show called My Best Friend's Exorcism, which is like a fucking, I think, a cool, fun show. But also set during the 80s satanic panic. And then there's like this other one. whose diary was altered to include the words like cattle mutilation and conversations with the devil and was published oh which helped inspire like this whole 80s freak out is being turned into a staged rock opera next year shut up yes yes this is reminding me of like one of the classic memes of the show where we talk about how it's like when democrats are in power vampire movies are popular and then when republicans are in power zombies zombie movies are popular it's like what what what phase are we in where all of a sudden satanic is it some sort of like obsession with death is it the nihilism thing

where it's like no the devil's coming for all of us baby i guess so always it just feels like so much i do think satan will always be big and then also i think it's like a combination of like a nostalgic lens right so we're turning backwards on a lot of our stuff, looking at the 80s in sort of a nostalgic way because now the children of the 80s are old enough to be making these things. The people in development roles. The people in development roles. Exactly. Exactly. And then also it's like as the country diversifies and moves away from like traditional Christianity or Protestantism, if that's the word.

from like traditional christianity or protestantism if that's the word there's like i think a subconscious backlash and wanting to hold tight more tightly to those values and so conservative christians or evangelicals are mobilizing themselves are so worried about their way of life disappearing that they're going twice as hard even though there are fewer of them ever and there are few of them than there are of us but for some reason their like rhetoric gets to take center stage yeah right and like satan is just like a really tidy thing is a really good efficient word for y'all know something's going on yeah yeah for chaos yeah that's it and you can just say satan and for them they're like yep uh-huh it's not it's not our cruel fucking world i was gonna say i mean that's so much easier than being like capitalism do you know because dude i even just my ears have

shut off right there and i'm sorry ellery and i totally agree with you but i wish you had said satan actually could not say satan is keeping your wages low. Maybe that's all we need to say. Satan keeping your wages low. Oh, man, did you, you had a family member go bankrupt because they needed a treatment for cancer? You know who that was, right? Yeah, the, no. Nope. Satan.

It was fucking Satan. It was Satan. And you know what we need to do, comrade in Christ? Is we need to get together, you know know like the disciples did and fight back but i think yeah like to your point there is this like confluence of like it's nostalgic for people that are who like experience that in a time where they might not have been as critically thinking as they could have been or just because of their like you know naivete or youth they're now the adults with families and you it's like the also the perfect time to weaponize that nostalgia because it's immediately like oh yeah i remember when like everyone was all freaked out back then and now

we're seeing that completely like you just see it evoked like satan's name is like evoked at these town hall meetings you know like where parents are like and i believe it's really something satanic because my child learned about a bisexual person yesterday i think that's satan and it again also allows for people to have like this weird moral overreaction to something that is like like even in that joke of an example the existence of a bisexual person by you know trying to look that through a lens of like demonic shit it's like oh right right right okay the stakes are so high to try and disenfranchise people it's also so interesting how like if you were a godly person or believed in like godliness how far away like the groups that purport to practice that sort of

thing are from the actual teachings of the bible yeah like if i think about i mean i grew up totally secular but like you know i work at a church on tuesdays and so i i'm around a lot of that stuff but like for me i'm like okay where's the giving back like where's the martyrdom where is the kindness where is like yeah the willing to see anybody's suffering as your own suffering i see none of that i see none of that yeah i think which is funny because i went to like k through 12 some kind of religious school and the like the way like a lot of these modern evangelicals are just like christians who are just completely all in on discriminating people and like ignoring anything that's in the bible like they it's almost like they look at

their position as like yeah like like someone inheriting wealth they're like yeah yeah like older christians and christ had to do that shit and now we're here to just like take it all in baby as christians this is ours now without the fucking hard work of like charity or empathy and things like that. Because I do, you know, I was told in school, grace from God means God's riches at Christ's expense. As you're always hammered into your head. But I think these people really just feel like, yeah, that's not as essential now for this other version of Christianity, which is like a definition of what like the status quo is for society. And like, that's where it's completely is it also not a bit pear-shaped is it also kind of like a i feel like as you know religion in general becomes a little bit more dissipated throughout society there's

less religious people more and more that we're also kind of boiling down what is left into these very concentrated tomato pastes of religion where you know regardless of like the teachings of it it's about these kind of like very very deeply set in groups that are just holding on to whatever is left as much as possible and like spewing it at every possible opportunity and it's like we're just you know not hyper focusing but it's like that's just becoming so much louder and louder from these tighter and tighter sects that it's like, yeah, I don't know. It's, it's, I mean, it, it fits perfect though with like our hyper partisan atmosphere because as a, as just organized religion on its face is us versus them. So if you're already active in a,

like if that version of a religion, that's truly like it's us versus them, then, yeah, it's really easy to get those people animated and energized to do shit because they're they're like at a low hum of like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's such a motivated voting block. Yeah, you could. There's no equivalent on the left. No, no, no. But, you know, and that's what's hard is like because those people on the other side are like yeah man satan it's like fuck man we need something so dumb and everyone can get around like satan uh but people like well i'm an anarchist they're like yeah i know and you i

know and you are a democratic socialist and you're a fucking lib and like fuck okay it's tough to lead a broad coalition because it's broad like yeah absolutely yeah and with like people who are very specific ideas about what should happen where most people on like the right they're the most specific they get is like christianity is the default and joe byron and hillary clinton will go to guantanamo. Thank you and good night. Oh, healthcare? Didn't think about that. Didn't think about that. My brother in Christ?

Okay, let's keep this conversation going because I just do want to touch on Netflix because of our dark fucking obsession with true crime. The new Netflix, like Jeffrey Dahmer's show, is fucking huge right now. It's like number one as I look at it. The charts beating Cobra Kaiai which maybe cobra kai if you have more vile serial killers in your show maybe you would be number one but that's another

conversation but also it's really being i've seen the most criticism come from many families of jeffrey dahmer's victims who have publicly stated like they were never contacted by anyone at Netflix and just find the whole thing very cruel and retraumatizing because like, have we not heard, like we've heard so many of these stories so many times that it's just like, uh, again, like again, one of the, this is, this is a quote from one of the cousins of a victim said, quote, so when they say they're doing this with respect to the victims or honoring the dignity of the families, no one contacts them. My cousins wake up every few months at this point with a bunch of calls and messages, and they know there's another Dahmer show. It's cruel.

Like, they just know. The only reason people would start reaching out to me all of a sudden is because they want to know about someone in my family that was horribly murdered. The sister of one of the victims, who you've probably seen this clip of like some people been like, wow, the Jeffrey Dahmer thing is so accurate. Look at this side by side of this woman giving testimony and the Netflix show. You can barely tell. Well, that was the sister of one of the victims. And she was saying, it feels like I'm reliving it all over again. Quote, when I saw some of the show, it bothered me, especially when I saw myself, when I saw my name come across the screen and this lady saying verbatim exactly what I said,

if I didn't know any better, I would have thought it was me. Her hair was like mine. She had on the same clothes. That's why it felt like reliving it all over again. It brought back all the emotions I was feeling back then. And this is like the same thing happened with the ted bundy film again like other people were like god like why did they fucking zach efron like that was a really fucked up thing to be like because people were like saying like oh my god he's dead fucking bundy can't get it wow like what and it does shift like the way we talk about all of these things and completely just go to. It becomes pretend. It becomes play.

Yeah. 100%. It becomes entertainment fodder. Yeah. It's really the true crime industrial complex. Like, I mean, I listen to some of the podcasts, but like. Yeah. This is my tinfoil cap moment.

Okay. I'm like true crime. They want us to be afraid of our neighbors. They want you to be so afraid it's like why you listen to a true crime podcast and all of the ads are for like simply safe yeah right right well like they're weaponizing how unsafe you feel they're weaponizing you know the fact that there could be monsters everywhere so that you feel less connected you don't know your neighbors you have less of a community and then also on top of that it's like the commodification of somebody else's actual trauma like the worst thing that ever happened to them now netflix is making millions

of dollars on that and they see nothing yeah right and it's it the it's funny too because that whole idea of like feeding people fear i think it's like it's a it's just the the environment is right. Like they're already people already feel uncertain and already do feel fear for a number of reasons. We're utilizing that and we're turning it up. Yeah, exactly. And like, you know, you're like we're I don't know if we made it on the show or we reference like how, you know, there's going to be like Ring Nation, which is all ring camera footage. That's like a collaboration. I will never I will never put one of those in my home i don't think i don't do echoes i don't do google home like fuck off with that miss me with that completely i don't

care well like and that one again was wild because in an interview found out wanda sykes worked for the nsa so it's like oh she's the host she's the host of the show say more about that say more about that wanda sykes was like a contract specialist for the nsa for the first five years of her professional career and had a security clearance and is no longer in the nsa but well wanda sykes was in the nsa for five years whoa she's like i did mostly paperwork she was very like dismissive hold on you're hosting the op show on Ring Nation on Amazon? Yeah, it all comes together in a very shocking way. But anyway, to your point, we're already feeling this level of uncertainty.

So to have shows that are just kind of regurgitating back to us, to your point, does keep us more separate. Because I don't think anybody watches a show about serial killers. Take a walk at night. I challenge you. Watch some fucking gory fucking true crime shit go outside with no phone and take a walk in the dark for an hour and tell me if you're gonna look at your surroundings as like oh it's a nice time at night you can be like where the fuck is this motherfucker exactly where am i gonna get jumped out from yeah it's like that's really that's what that that's what's gonna give like those momentum or those thoughts a lot more momentum. And to your point, like people talk about just how we watch Netflix has possibly contributed to why we're able to we're like watching gorier shit.

Syracuse, says the focus may have to do with the fact that viewers often watch Netflix in more private ways and settings than they do traditional television. That can help the service achieve for shows about killers what e-book readers did for Fifty Shades of Grey. Plain brown packaging by way of the company of the red envelope. In other words, he said violence fits the delivery vehicle. You can catch that shit anywhere. You don't have to be like, yo, I got to go blah, blah, like oh i know where you i know what you're going to go watch right now it's thursday at 9 30 up watch your murder shit right you can do that in bed you can do that on toilet you do the fucking train whatever and then he goes on to say quote if you look at television history there's often a mirror effect in the early days of tv in the days of i love lucy

and leave it to beaver families would gather in the living rooms to watch shows about people who gather in their living rooms. And now we're people who sit huddled alone, looking a little creepy, watching people who are huddled alone, looking a little creepy. Wow. So it is a very it's like this like unintentional but intentional loop effect, too. And then you couple that with Netflix's fucking algorithms and shit shit and they're like why the fuck should we stop this shit is popping people fucking like this and like just to kind of touch on the marketing around all of this like netflix has done a terrible job again for them being like we're trying to put the victims at the forefront you know that's why we do this we're not just trying to glamorize jeffrey domer if you like in the like early on in the show the first episode there's a police

detective who's sitting opposite domer's father like after jeffrey domer's been arrested and he's talking about all the shit they found in jeffrey domer's apartment and he's he's like reading it off he's like we found like two hearts like a genitalia tor torsos, heads, things like that. And the, you know, like the, the director obviously makes a choice to, as this is being said, to show all of these things and make the fucking audience be like,

Oh fuck. Like, this is so fucking bad. But if you, again, like a lot of people asking in this ice vice article, they're saying like, if you're really trying to think of the victims,

that's, you're going to just show people's lopped off body article, they're saying like, if you're really trying to think of the victims, that's, you're going to just show people's lopped off body parts and stuff and be like, yeah, we're trying to think about the victims and then add to that. Yeah, go ahead. That's a wonderful PR statement,

but if that's true, run them their money, run them their money, give them a cut. Like if you really, if you're trying to put victims first and think about how it affects them, there is a, there is a very tangible thing that you can do and there's a dollar amount attached to it well we

were just trying to simplify that down to a nice sound bite so then we could avoid any further nuanced discussion of something yes of course they were but check out their body like this we're not going to have you on our netflix post streaming show did you imagine you get on a reaction show for Netflix and you're like, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Can we really talk about this? They're like, fuck, she's going off again. God damn it. And this is why I'll never make it big.

This is why I'll never make it big. Can't keep my tongue inside my mouth. Get Kaley Cuoco on. Ha ha! But again, even the PR, right? It's been fucking really grim. There's a tweet that is showing a clip from the show. Like when the cops were like when Jeffrey Dahmer is being led off by the cops, when a black woman is trying to get help. And the way they talk about this is, quote, this is the Netflix tweet.

Can't stop thinking about this disturbing scene from Dahmer where one of Jeffrey Dahmer's victims finally manages to escape ellipsis and the police actually bring him back inside the apartment now on Netflix fuck off and again they're like what it's really shocking to you again because Jeffrey Dahmer a lot of people talk about

it's his whiteness is what allowed him to prey on these like people of color and these other marginalized people without being stopped not like being like yo for real right are we i'm today years old when i found out about like shut the fuck up for real this is not this is all bad and like i said this isn't even the only jeffrey thing that Netflix is putting out this year. No way, the other one is also Netflix? This year. Bro.

Yes. The third installment of Conversations with a Killer is focused on Jeffrey Dahmer. So, like, they're like, we ain't fucking hitting the brakes on this shit. Dude. Yeah. Meanwhile, the Netflix Pride account is like, you've got to watch it. Yeah, it was. Exactly.

Those other things. They put it on the Netflix fucking pride channel and people were like what do you not see do you not how tone deaf do you have to be honestly it's it look it's netflix you know they've made their they've made their decision they're like we're all in on the goonery like you know we'll we'll side with the center right far right when it comes down to it so yeah they say they say themselves i did social media marketing for yeah netflix is a joke netflix if you're hearing us i think you're great um but yeah i did do social media marketing for a company like gosh in 2020 and they wanted me to do an mlk day post and so i pulled some quotes and i put something together and i sent to the client and the client came back.

They were like, oh, no, we don't want to quote him. That would be too divisive. Oh, word. Wow. And I was like, oh, can you put a rainbow flag behind it? Dude, that's exactly what they wanted. For real. Wait, what did you say?

That they want to what? Just like a picture of him. And then like some quote about like, today we celebrate. Instead of, you know, talking about the things that he actually did. Because they didn't want to be quote unquote divisive. Their actual language. Fucking sick. Wow.

Wow. That is fucking wild. I mean, like, it's just so every company. And this is, again, relates back to capitalism. But like to co-opt the language of a movement to act like you support the movement while actively hurting the movement is just a real triple option it's a real three-peat it's a home run it's incredible it's a big trifecta of fuckery that's yeah like i can't imagine like you put the the mlk quote

and he's like the evils of capitalism are as real as the evils of militarism and the evils of racism. And he was right. Buy shirts at the Gap. They're like, oh, you didn't know what he was saying. Right. Oh, shit. Well, Ellery, thank you so much for joining us today on the Daily Zeitgeist. It's always a pleasure when you're on.

Where can people find you and follow you and check you out? Yeah. You can find me at Ellery Smith on Twitter, Ellery underscore Smith on Instagram and info whores on Tik TOK. What's info whores about? Is that just your handle? Yeah. This is my handle.

Yeah. You doing anything interesting or that's just, you got the lit handle. Maybe I will. I just got the handle, whatever, like whenever I i got tiktok maybe four years ago and i know okay so you just lurk you lurk i just lurk i mean i post stand-up clips here and there but okay i'm not technically savvy so it's tough no i'm yeah i'm like i'm like i'm just a grandfather millennial i'm like y'all y'all y'all y'all do the tiktok i'm gonna watch from here though

yeah that's kind of how i feel as well and then i'm like man these kids good they're really good they're so native to the editing and stuff i'm so bad at it it's so wild too how like it started like for me i was like a video like camera nerd kid and i was nerding out on like i movie and final cut and shit like that but you had to have access to that shit. And now all that shit's in camera and everybody's like, and I'm like, damn. So quickly the transitions. Yeah, I spent time on that shit. Too much. Not me. But you know what?

I'm not mad at it. I'm dumb and I'm not very detail-oriented and so Twitter is a lot better for me. Yeah, right? And Ellery, what's a tweet or some other work of the social medias you you fucking with okay well i did pull up the newt gingrich tweet that i was going to talk about but we already talked about it today so oh this was a deleted tweet but it's by one of my favorite accounts

hello cullen at hello cullen i believe his full name is cullen crawford italy going fascist means making fun of italian people just went from being fun to important hell yeah oh shit uh dj danil sir on the ones and twos where can people find you and follow you and check you out also thank you for coming through oh it's my pleasure i might see you in a couple days you can find me all over the internet dj underscore danil this is coming on on wednesday so i'll be live on twitch tonight me all over the internet, DJ underscore Daniel. This is coming out on Wednesday, so I'll be live on Twitch tonight doing all sorts of dumb shit

at 7 p.m. Pacific at twitch.tv slash DJ underscore Daniel. And I got a couple tweets that I think are funny. One of them is from Zay at It's Zay OK. How much are tickets to the Rihanna football concert?

Because I'm going to have to go. The Rihanna football concert? And then the other one is a great one there's like there's a whole genre of twitter meme where it's like a bunch of fake it looks like a real tweet conversation but it's all fake tweets and it's termite twitter scares me and it's a picture of a termite saying let's eat jerry's house looks delicious and then five termites saying okay okay okay okay love i thought that was real i thought that was real i thought it was too like at first i was like that's funny like i like that there's a network of people who be pretending their termite twitter i wish i like that that warms my heart more than even

it being a good photoshop i'm like shout out to the people who are just cosplaying as termites on twitter we'd love to see it. We need to do that, actually. Like, live that out. Be like, hey, man. Activate your termite account, too. Yeah, get your termite scout going. Let's go. Yeah, we're going right now.

Could you imagine? Yeah, and you have, like, one million termites. And everybody's like, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, like, lead termite. And everybody's like, termite number three, four, five, five, five, five, five. Anyway. Protect your wood houses. And your neck. And your neck. Obviously. Protect your wood houses. And your neck.

What do termites do to your neck? Oh, I see. Never mind. Nope. Nope. Nope. Leave it in. We're teaching hip hop lessons every day. No, I knew what it meant. I know. I know. It was a grand moment. We all loved it. Let's see some tweets that I

am liking. First one is uh this is just this is from ann gregory at and the greg tweeted type uh type of car with the worst drivers i'll go first white teslas and i'm like true i've i didn't even think about it but i'm like yo i i think you might be right definitely whoever got the white seats you fucking around you're fucking around you got the white tesla seats i'm like what are you doing my friend how do you do that another one nina at nina growall uh or nina growall 97 tweeted people being rude when they're drunk is weird to me the minute a drop of alcohol touches my tongue i start telling my friends how much i love them making speeches trying not to cry the whole fucking works yes i love it and then sally's groove at celia r celia r gooding uh tweeted sci-fi is when when you sci-fi is when i when your mom uh when

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