The Daily Zeitgeist - Critical ERASE History, STINKIEST STATES 6.10.21

Episode Date: June 10, 2021

In episode 927, Jack and Miles are joined by producer and writer Joelle Monique to discuss Texas' 1836 Project, criminals using an encryption app made by the FBI, the media's double standard for Islam...ophobia and Anti-Semitism, the smelliest states in the United States, more UFO updates, and more!FOOTNOTES: Texas’ 1836 Project aims to promote “patriotic education,” but critics worry it will gloss over state’s history of racism The Alamo Should Never Have Happened The Criminals Thought the Devices Were Secure. But the Seller Was the F.B.I. Truck Attack That Killed a Muslim Family in Canada Was Planned New study names the 10 smelliest states in the US Leaked US Navy video shows UFO flying in California — and suddenly diving underwater Bright blue UFO seen crashing into ocean near Hawaii prompts calls to 911, FAA LISTEN: Pink Pantheress - Break It Off (Official Audio) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:05 apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast hello the internet and welcome to season 188 episode four of the daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio uh we have so much fun before we start recording with you guys this was a particularly fun one. Good gang in the chat today. But this, what you're listening to is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It is Thursday, June 10th, 2021. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Oh, baby, Chug. Chug got what I need.
Starting point is 00:02:43 But you say it's just a trend. But you say it's just a trend. But you say it's just a trend. And then follow that up with, is this anything? Hell yeah, Ben Wendt. It's a AKA. Well done, sir. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. On the Zoom.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Podcasting. host, Mr. Miles Gray! On the Zoom podcasting talking trends and daily sights. Face to face, some NBA and from time to time, Blippi! O'Brien,
Starting point is 00:03:23 won't you come and T-D-Z with me? O'Brien, won't you pod? Won't you pod? Won't you pod? Won't you pod? Oh, my God. Okay, so that is Soundgarden, Black Hole Sun.
Starting point is 00:03:46 That's from Hank Skippio on the Discord. Thank you. I didn't know we were going to share that. That is how Miles summons me to every TDZ record. I didn't know we were going to share that. That's why sometimes I sound more hoarse when I do the episode, because you're like, nope, do it again. And also the timing of the smoke machine was wrong.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Nope, do it again. And also the timing of the smoke machine was wrong. Well, Miles, we are fortunate to be joined by one of the smartest people I know. She's a producer here in the iHeartRadio LA podcast studio, helping to create shows like Fake Doctors, Real Friends. She's a fabulous writer who you can read at Vulture, the AV Club, Team Vogue, Pace, The Advocate, many, many more She is the brilliant and talented Joelle Moniz! Hi guys! What is happening?
Starting point is 00:04:37 Oh my god, I'm on new medication which does not allow me to sleep at regular intervals So it's very strange trying to work it out my psych was like do you want sleeping pills i was like let's just try one at a time sir let's get used to these see what's up maybe a nighttime routine is what i need my girl was like get you some chamomile tea turn off that tv so you'll set a timer get that uh calm app go and get your bedtime stories flowing and uh you know get yourself knocked out that way so we're gonna try some things hammer over the head or an anvil from on high
Starting point is 00:05:15 yeah i do my thing i mean obviously i'm not contesting with any sort of like chemical things to keep me awake. But whenever I have trouble, I like a nice edible, but take a hot ass bath because that is the way of Japanese like bath cultures. You know, like the bath before you go to sleep, like when that's the last thing you do, your body is like so relaxed. And that's true. That is true. Yeah. And then your sheets stay clean longer too because your body's clean when you put it on the sheets okay i'll be thinking i will add bath to the
Starting point is 00:05:49 nighttime routine we're gonna get it but yeah so i i would say uh do not combine uh sleeping pills with baths no no no no no no but uh the uh that's just a public service. I know you guys would never. But I just did an episode of Movie Crush with Charles Chuck Bryant from Stuff You Should Know. And to prepare for the role of Vince Vega, John Travolta, to find out what heroin was like without doing heroin he was told to drink tequila and uh get in a very hot bathtub or a hot tub which doesn't seem like an accurate trail yeah exactly yeah i'm look everyone knows from that one new year's eve that uh what's his andy cohen knows all about heroin. Yeah, yeah. He's like, oh, these warm packs, they're all like, it's like heroin. And I was like, bro, what? We're on a nationally broadcast New Year's Eve special.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry. My bad. Oh, more importantly, Joelle, have you been to a movie yet? Yes. I went and saw the third installment of the Conjuring series. Oh. It almost made me cry. Not because the movie's any kind of good it's not
Starting point is 00:07:06 uh bring james wan back to direct these movies your protégés are not you're not they're not doing it james but i was it was really like going home for me i grew up in movie theaters spent most of my time in movie theaters like pre-pandemic but even like in my youth i worked in movie theaters and oh man when the crowd was in it like you again the movie not great the crowd like cheering and stuff like we were at an avengers film it was it was where everyone was just so happy to be back in a movie theater and watching a horror film i was just it was so good to be back in a crowd interacting with the movie it just felt like coming home it was very nice it's funny that you mentioned uh avengers because we were talking about how that is like one of the most successful movie
Starting point is 00:07:49 franchises fictional universes that's been created in the past 20 years like second only to avengers they made conjuring the conjuring is second only to avengers yeah got it yes uh listen conjuring series could be my underrated today why Why the hell not? Listen, by the time they get to the second Annabelle movie, they are so far in their bag of being like, we understand what makes not just this universe tick, but why people come to scary movies. The last Annabelle, where they just explored. If you, okay, listen, if you haven't seen Conjuring, it's about like this guy who was almost a priest, but then didn't become one, and his wife who's, like, a medium and sees visions and shit. Oh, we talked about this on the show. Great, great. Their dark past, their dark real history. Yeah, the true history is very fucked up. Yeah, you know, you don't.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Uh-huh, yes, it is. Go listen to that episode. But if you just want to stay in this nice fictional universe where they base the entire horror series off of their romance, which I think is, like, aces decision making filmmaker wise like who doesn't love a good romance and then surrounding that with horror it's great in the last annabelle movie there they keep everything they find from their little adventures in a room those like crosses and it's locked it's blew up the universe like fully expanded it in the last annabelle movie
Starting point is 00:09:05 you get the guy who drives the boat on the river sticks who like collects pennies off the eyes i think that's an irish tradition that's introduced really well they have a haunted samurai suit which i was like get get me somebody who knows how to make a samurai movie to direct that and i will be a haunted samurai suit that forces people to kill endlessly epic what was the other one that was really good like some kind of version of the boogeyman. And then in this very last Condor movie, they had the greatest floating witch lady that they didn't quite do right.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And I sort of hope they bring her back in an undead way because she was sort of messing around with necromancy. What I'm saying is there's so many points that you could just like lift up and make something really great out of it. There's so much like good, like love kernels throughout the series and i just i'm so in love with with being involved in the conjuring universe definitely it definitely underrated like more people need to be as excited as i am about the conjuring is that your favorite horror franchise
Starting point is 00:09:59 franchise franchise no it's hard I like to just give you questions that are going to break your brain because you take this stuff so seriously it's hard because I don't know if Final Destination is more consistently better
Starting point is 00:10:19 like the Conjuring series has like really great movies and then like The Nun to me is in a front like how diduring series has like really great movies and then like the nun to me isn't a front like how did you mess up like classic catholic ancient church like devil rituals that's so so basic horror movie stuff and they bombed it and they had one of the best horror girls they had uh tessa farminga who is vera farminga's little sister how How did you mess it up? It was terrible. But Final Destination, I don't think it's ever missed. Like, listen,
Starting point is 00:10:49 rollercoaster decapitated. Great. Logs coming off of trucks. We invented that. You know, the hand in the garbage disposal. Yeah, don't reach down that drain. Nope. Oh my god. I've had a broken garbage disposal for the past week, and I've been just reaching my hand down there trying to jiggle it. It's always horrifying. Your kitchen horrifying your kitchen stinks right now right yeah it smells really bad we'll
Starting point is 00:11:09 get to why sitting in there they just released the list of uh the 10 smelliest states uh we're going to talk about it later but california is number two based almost exclusively on my garbage disposal yeah all right joelle we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about we're gonna talk about how the conservative american white supremacy's answer to the 1619 project another answer to it yes it is besides 1776 and no their new answer is 1836 maybe we're gonna talk about the fact that criminals are stupid and being a cop is easy and the cops uh specifically this app that the police around the globe just used to capture like 21 million criminal text messages. We'll talk about why Islamophobia is not held to the same standard
Starting point is 00:12:06 as anti-Semitism in the mainstream media, check in with the 10 smelliest states, maybe get to some unidentified submerged. I always forget what the S is. Submerged, subaquatic, submersible, unidentified subway sandwich objects sandwich artist yeah there's been some interesting videos of that all of that plenty more but first joelle we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history yeah okay so what i typed in was like dog snout lead leash uh some of you guys know i have a beautiful pet her name is lions she is the love of my life so beautiful she's oh my gosh she's so gorgeous but when she's getting she's getting big like i saw a friend the other day who i haven't seen at all during the pandemic
Starting point is 00:12:59 he was like oh let me see the puppy and i showed him a video he's like that's a full dog now skipped over being a puppy and now right full dog no awkward stage either no the whole time the whole time totally she scarlett johansson did like just straight curve up um she doesn't think that she should play asians in movies though i was gonna say she's starring in a she did not compare playing an asian in a film to being a tree in a film. She's smart. Lions, it's great, but she pulls a lot when I walk her.
Starting point is 00:13:32 And while it's very cute and endearing now because she is mid-sized and adorable, 30 pounds from now, less cute. More me being dragged all over the street. So I've been trying to find ways to walk her that you know don't inhibit her a lot of people are like oh get a choke chain or like tie her mouth shut and all
Starting point is 00:13:50 kinds of horrible things that i was not going to do but i found a lead leash where essentially it's just like when you put a bridle on a horse you know so you can lead it around you don't want to pull a horse by its body you can't do it it's big but if you pull by its head it's gonna follow you anywhere so uh i bought one i haven't put it on her yet because all the instructions were like you're gonna have to introduce her to it slowly and give her lots of food and like attach part of it to a collar because she might be able to slip out of it so i gotta figure out all the technical stuff but listen i'm gonna walk my dog without being pulled around like a chump okay i'm not a rag doll like a chump don't get any shoulder injuries too from having uh you know those powerful i remember like at
Starting point is 00:14:29 one point i was walking two big dogs oh hell no and like you know the classic story like a squirrel comes out and immediately it's like oh i'm jacks from mortal combat because my arms just blew off trying to like hold these things. It was like a disaster. But yeah, I'm sure. What's great, our listeners have many different occupations. I've had things from my cat's diet tips addressed. Shout out to those of you on Discord that helped out with that. If you got tips for how to get the dog under control in a humane way, not a joke way, please let Joelle know.
Starting point is 00:15:02 control in a humane way, not a joke way. Please let Joelle know. I'm lucky because Justin, your guy's editor, my brother, also owner of Lions, is like a master dog trainer. Lions is human. Like, they're getting it. Listen, they've fallen into sync. It's really annoying because sometimes
Starting point is 00:15:17 I feel like, you know, when parents, you know, sometimes the dad will be like, hey, cut it out. Because they're like, oh god, we're so scared. Dad said to stop. We gotta stop. and i'm just mom over here like stop it stop stop lions no stop i feel ridiculous like 27 times later she's like i guess i'll come over here what do you want very begrudgingly um so i think justin's there to like actually train make sure she knows all of her you know manners and good behaviors and stuff we're getting there she's great she's only six months she just just hit six months so we're growing i'm just so proud of her you're on your way you're on your way
Starting point is 00:15:55 she's gonna be so good what is something you think is overrated honestly i'm just gonna say what we're all thinking bras and pants are overrated i'm so mad we have to go back to them to go outside. Women, if we would like to all just come together and just be like, no more bras. In the pandemic, we learned that our backs don't have to hurt all the time. You know, they could just sag and then my back is free. And it's amazing. I don't know if we're going to do it together. I'm nervous to do it in public.
Starting point is 00:16:20 But, oh, overrated. Let's never do those again. That's what I look. P look pants i haven't worn bras too often or at least not recently but pants yeah i'm uh i i like wore jeans two days in a row oh i'm so sorry and it really felt like monumental it was weird i honestly like i flashed back when i put my legs in the second time i was, I'm doing jeans two days in a row. I don't even like basketball shorts or, like, sweatpants. Like, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:16:51 Yeah, there's a lot of fashion things that, although that's the thing is when you go out, you're like, man, I wish everyone had the note that we're saying, fuck jeans. But you enter the world and it's like. People out here looking good as hell. Everyone, like, upgraded their wardrobe during quarantine. I know. And so, like, it's it's like out here looking good as hell everyone like upgraded their wardrobe during quarantine and so like it's just flex city out here i'm just in burbank everyone looks good i can't tell if i've been inside too long and i forgot what people look like or if everyone is like if i'm stepping outside i'm gonna look so goddamn good that no one can challenge me and either way it's been like it's truly just it's a little intimidating it's also a feast for
Starting point is 00:17:25 the eyes it's like i'm telling guys we are almost into summer like it's it's upon us right i still see an interesting mix of people who are like on both ends of the drip spectrum one which is like i have so much pent-up drippery that i need to get out here and stunt on people. It's the Universal Studios stunt show from the late 80s, if you remember that. Or it's people like me who are like, forget the old world. We are the people who have inherited this. I will wear a stretched out V-neck the third time in a row. Miles is a sea captain now. He does now smoke a corn cob place.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Yeah, and I've got an iPad. You're like, what happened to your eye? I'm like, oh, nothing. It just kind of fits the vibe right now. Yeah, big white chin strap beard. Yeah, I thought we were going, I thought sweatpants were here to stay, but nobody has followed through on that.
Starting point is 00:18:20 I just don't have to be brave as a community together and just be like, no, we're doing it. It's really happening. And y'all are the losers for going you're uncomfortable i see it girl trembling in her heels already ready to go home after an hour and a half okay sure and those loafers that are too tight you know you don't really want to be wearing the pants that are so tight we can see your package i get it but i know you don't want to i know you'd rather be in your gray sweats let's just all do it together yeah i think it's like hand in hand like last summer people were like yeah we're gonna do something about white supremacy nope yeah man maybe fashion is different and we'll go out there like we can just be ourselves nah are y'all tripped up at all by
Starting point is 00:18:59 the new ads coming out everyone's like now it's time to go back to normal and like we're getting ready i'm like i'm not i feel like you're really pushing me and i'm not ready like slowly that phrasing is just insidious yes i concur you know what i mean like that is that's normal was good for maybe 15 of earth yeah so like but unfortunately that's that. Let's go back to just ignoring the fact that Jeff Bezos pays no taxes. Let's just tear down these people who found out how little taxes he pays, which, by the way, that is the follow up to that story is the IRS is going after ProPublica, not changing their code to do something about the fact that it's wildly unfair. changing their code to do something about the fact that it's wildly unfair. But did you see any of the responses from some of those billionaires? And they're like, care to comment on it?
Starting point is 00:19:52 No. Were they just like, oh, my God. That's the law. Carl Icahn or whatever, Icahn, I-C-A-H-N. His response was, quote, there's a reason it's called income tax the reason is if you're a poor person a rich person if you're apple you have no if you have no income you don't pay taxes you think a rich person should pay taxes no matter what i don't think i don't think it's germane how can you ask me that question yeah oh yeah that was in the article that was in the article yeah that was
Starting point is 00:20:20 the one in the article oh yeah they they Buffett responded and like a couple people responded through spokespeople usually but it was it was essentially that it's like well that's the rules sorry it's like yeah you make the rules like let's talk about the part where you rules pantsing billionaires yes thank you let's do it what is something
Starting point is 00:20:39 you think is underrated joe I did the conjuring series is my underrated let's roll with that let's do it all right and that means that you have to ignore the story from earlier in the week where we talked about why it's all sorts of fucked up and it's still fucked up but it can also it's also underrated yeah you should know the real story yeah i mean like implicit in the exorcist which is one of our finest horror movies of all time is like the catholic ideology that is like very conservative and fucked up but it's still a good time at the movies i just learned the majority of the francis
Starting point is 00:21:18 farmer story that we all know was totally made up blew my absolute mind i was like what i don't know if you guys know who Frances Farmer is. I don't. She was an actress in the 20s and 30s. Nirvana was really into her. They wrote a song about her best friend. Is that why Frances Bean is named Frances Bean? I wouldn't surprise me because Courtney Love was really into her, too. And people thought that she was like she was a big she's a big celebrity and shiny girl. And then, you know, but she was also an alcoholic and belligerent
Starting point is 00:21:45 and an atheist in the 30s uh so people had some issues and when she died her friend owed like all of this money for like her book that she never really got down to writing so they just made up a story about how she was lobotomized when she was in an institution which no one can prove that she was actually lobotomized and then a movie came out about her where jessica lang played her in the 80s and that scene became like the most iconic like ice pick through the eye lobotomy like drooling they said that she was abused by the staff there's no proof of any of that uh she never said it's not been written down anywhere her parents got her out after like i want to say five or six years inside like it the story is sad and tragic for many reasons but not any of the reasons that we know it for
Starting point is 00:22:30 and yeah you know you gotta be careful when you're watching a movie uh most of the time not history most of the time just trying to tell you an interesting story right they just took somebody else's true story though because that shit was happening to people constantly in the early 20s right right it's interesting I'm reading this article. The track was called Francis Farmer will have her revenge on Seattle. Very clear. But it also says, they said, the Nirvana biographer Michael Azarad
Starting point is 00:22:54 referred to Farmer as, quote, the patron martyr of Cobain and his wife, Courtney Love, who identified with her in part because they saw parallels between her mistreatment by the media and their own struggles. Yep. They called her St. Francis. Oh, okay. All right. Well, let's take a quick media and their own struggles with it. Yep. They called her St. Francis. Oh, okay.
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Starting point is 00:27:41 Context, the history, the pervasiveness. And then it can just be like, I don't know what's going on. That's why the 1619 project is so hated, so hated by racists, because just a clear light on the origins and machinations of star spangled racism that we have in this country. And it takes away like a lot of lazy talking points, like when kids are like, well, slaves like we're educated or like Civil War was about agribusiness. No, no, no. That's what someone told you because they don't want you to know how horrifying this entire institution was. So again, we've seen a lot of people, whether it's the UNC Chapel Hill trying to take away Nicole Hannah-Jones' tenure and things like that. People are scared of this because it's just true. It's just truth telling about our history. And so Greg Abbott in Texas is now doing his darnedest to have his own version to obscure the racist history of this country. It's called the 1836 Project,
Starting point is 00:28:38 which is a reference to the Texas fight for independence. Or you could just say, you know, colonialism and empire, because, I mean, you could look at the Alamo and say maybe that was actually the worst blunders in military history was completely told a different way to create, you know, more energy for anti-federalism or white martyrdom in the face of a brown invader. But that's for another lesson. In this instance, you know, this is this is essentially what it's doing is creating an advisory committee, quote, designed to promote the state's history to Texas residents, largely through pamphlets given to people receiving driver's licenses. It also awards students
Starting point is 00:29:13 on their knowledge of the state's history and values. But some of these specific bills that are part of this, House Bill 3979 says, quote, it how texas educators can discuss current events and racism in the u.s the 1836 project also requires the promotion of quote the christian heritage of the state uh-huh um you know nicole hannah jones rightly pointed out in a thread that this is nothing new there have been gag orders on discussion of abolition or like anti-slavery talk since the beginnings of this country and this is yet another form of this where they're trying to be like hey let's uh let's just we're gonna steer this conversation where we need to uh and set rules on how much truth you can tell people yeah there's a uh there's a talk about underrated movies there's a 1996 movie uh lone star that where the like
Starting point is 00:30:06 struggle to tell the story of like texas history like figures prominently that's right really good but i mean it's like that whole like the whole idea of you know a lot of texas independence is completely stripped away all of the racism and what was you know saying the idea that before all of you know like the timeline of saying like well it was the overstepping of of these governments that like created like this tyranny that they had to fight against they already had plans to steal this land from way before any of that and using things like we're taking this land because they're quote lesser people it's all steeped in racism and of course yeah maybe you should probably get ahead of your own you know like there's no there's no clean state history in any state really you really
Starting point is 00:30:49 want to look at it but texas has a lot of nerve let's be real like most of the academic books we use for grade school kids come out are published in texas yeah they have outsized power for it yeah yeah and the way those things describe what slavery was, it was work for immigrants. Bananas, you know, the way they try to constantly obscure and put down Juneteenth celebrations. Like this is this is a not a people of Texas problem, but a government of Texas problem, I would say. And it's just absolutely it's hyper frustrating, I guess, just to, I mean, Miles already said it, like it's nothing new, but wow, the audacity to be like, uh, you're super in-depth, well-researched, verified work, like life's work cannot be taught because it offends my delicate sensibilities. I don't like when people talk about racism it makes me uncomfortable that it black people already have so little history like specifically in this country that we can look to actual names and dates so much of our stuff has been erased
Starting point is 00:31:57 that we're historians are literally guessing you know what recipes were martha washington's and which recipes were her slaves right and and trying to differentiate so that his work can be honored and respected and taught and it's it's it's really frustrating to have to sit and listen to people in power try to continue to erase the little bit of history that we, we can trace. Yeah. Yeah. Well, especially cause it, it,
Starting point is 00:32:26 it goes, it runs afoul of the mythology of these places where it's like, you see just good, good, good old Christian people trying to forge our way through this country. And when we did it like this by, you know, scaring off people with violence.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Um, and we don't want to talk about how much, so much of everything is either stolen or exploited from the work or labor of other people. But that's just the pattern that we'll can like, it's, we'll, we've, we'll, we'll never break that cycle. Even how we look at things today. We have, you know, there's videos going viral of people who are gig workers begging for better tips because the wages they're paid to deliver food are not enough
Starting point is 00:33:06 to survive and we're still like you know some it's just like oh wow that's that's a problem but maybe in this very singular thing rather than like no we have a history of doing this like this is our entire country just built on this and we still can't zoom out enough to really take that all in and begin to do something better yeah and then they call the other conservatives call the other side snowflakes and claim they're overly sensitive they're like oh y'all can't handle history okay damn um all right there are some criminals who are finding out some bad news over the past couple weeks so a while back criminal syndicates of all types across the world started getting burners from inside their organization that came pre-loaded some bad news over the past couple weeks. So a while back, criminal syndicates of all types across the world started getting burners from inside their organization that came preloaded with
Starting point is 00:33:50 they looked like a normal iPhone or other type of phone. But when you opened the calculator app and typed in a few different numbers, it became a encrypted communication, like private communication device, and it became wildly successful. Thousands of criminals were using it to plan drug smuggling, to communicate that they wanted somebody murdered. And it had been created by the FBI and by global crime-fighting organizations. And they were just sitting there getting all the messages and then just like busting people. And they recently decided they were like, we got to just tell somebody about this because we really fucking did it.
Starting point is 00:34:36 We're the best. And so they announced a couple of weeks ago that like, well, we were coming up to the end of like the amount of time that they had on this like wiretap or whatever and i think they just like couldn't stop themselves from bragging that they did something smart and so they were like yeah we intercepted 21 million messages they busted all sorts like their photographs of people being like here's where i'm putting the cocaine in this fruit shipment here's where i'm putting the cocaine in this fruit shipment. Here's where I'm putting the cocaine in these barrels of tuna fish. And yeah, it was incredibly successful. But it's like just the smallest amount of planning and they're able to fight crime in this really successful way. It just it drives me crazy when like this is what this has to be the exception to the rule because law enforcement just in general, especially in the United States, is instead dominated instead of like, let's put some planning in up front and then we'll be able to stop the crimes that we're trying to fight it's dominated by people who are like i got into this because my friend from the football team told me i could like
Starting point is 00:35:53 fuck some people up or something or because they're racist and want to carry a gun so you're saying good to see a win for law enforcement you know FBI, there's too many people are Googling COINTELPRO and Huey Newton. Now they can be like, they did it with this app. They got them. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. They did a win, and so they were like, hey. I wonder how, obviously in the comedic version,
Starting point is 00:36:22 there's the crime boss who's realizing,'s like they got it how like with the calculator they the calculator they made it but you bought the phone at the 7-eleven right where we normally like yeah they think they know yeah it's got to be frustrating uh that's why you got to the thing is you know just use the voice notes you know i mean voice messages don't even need encrypted you know i mean you signal right they did this they did like a professional criminal come on voice notes. You know what I mean? Voice messages. You don't even need encrypted. You know what I mean? Use Signal. Like a professional criminal. Come on. They did this because they
Starting point is 00:36:51 couldn't convince Apple or other companies to let them get into their apps. So they would have been safer planning their hits on Facebook. In the DMs on Facebook. They would have using
Starting point is 00:37:07 this super secret app. The FBI was like, alright, what would we do? We would love a secret app that had a secret button that flipped open this. This is saying global? This was global? Australia was the one
Starting point is 00:37:24 that revealed it because they i guess had some urgent matters that they had to solve and make public stick to your flip phones yeah yeah stick your flip phones and facebook to do your crime send a letter no one's looking there anymore yeah don't you read that's what russia like was really investing in typewriters and like pigeons for yes yeah back in the day like not not long ago either like 10 years ago and they might still be that might be the way that they're telling like communicating with one another about the tic tacs that they're flying over the united states and we just don't know all of these hacks being organized by pigeons by pigeons yeah he's ransomware attacks too they're like wait they're wait they've they initiated via
Starting point is 00:38:13 pigeon but it's ransomware what the i just send they send the encrypted codes by a pigeon and then they're like at an internet cafe right and jason bourne doesn't know where to look for them he's just he's lost and confused he can no longer just have a computer and find these guys but he's like but then his like partner's like what's that guy doing up there clapping those birds up there nothing nothing i don't know he's probably some weird he's probably fucking them or something come on we gotta fight some crimes like hey no that mr bourne that might be something come on isn't there a scene where they're in bird blinds in the first Bourne movie?
Starting point is 00:38:47 Where they're out in a field? Maybe not. I do not recall. And then the whole shipment, they're being asked to be paid in loaves of Wonder Bread? This is so weird. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:39:03 The pigeons have intercepted the process and stale popcorn i wanted to talk about a crime that i you know it it happened i think a couple days ago in canada yeah in ontario in ontario yeah ayear-old intentionally drove into and murdered a family for being Muslim in Canada. They were waiting to cross the street. The police are saying it was premeditated. They want to treat it as a terror act. But nobody is connecting it to the situation that's happening in Palestine. It's just interesting that like, you know, the repellent anti-Semitic words and violence that left people like battered and bruised and like sent some people to the hospital a few weeks ago was covered globally and tied to criticism of, you know, Zionism. But when a family is mowed down explicitly for being Muslim, the New York Times doesn't even like the word Palestine doesn't doesn't appear once. And it just feels like it's a double standard. Yeah, well, I think it's just the
Starting point is 00:40:20 Islamophobia that's just entrenched in media in this country. It's like we're at such a point and many marginalized groups in this country know there's a media version of your existence that doesn't allow for empathy to go in your direction. this is I've always been presented that this kind of person is like this through films I've seen, not because I can connect it to the humanity of it. And because of that, there's also like just, yeah, there's, I think, a lack of interest or the ability to actually grapple with just how much people have been left desensitized to Islamophobia, especially since September 11th, and like the momentum that's carried on and it's the same for the same reason why people can still look for years at what happens in palestine and for whatever reason if that i think if people were looked a different way or the you know the the opposing ideologies involved were different people would be like this is terrible
Starting point is 00:41:22 like what is happening and i think that's i think inherently a level of Islamophobia, a lot of, I think, especially Americans probably aren't aware of too, that there is this, whatever your perceived lack of interest or wanting to understand is also entrenched in just a steady diet of othering and fear that has been fed to you and without looking at it critically yeah we're left to not be able to to to analyze the same issues with the exact same sort of intensity or honesty yeah yeah we need only look at what types of roles the majority like the majority of islamic characters in television shows or films and how they're presented is so often either uh you know if you were to look at casting calls it would be like terrorist bomber woman in a hijab like just very broad stroke one-dimensional yes i mean and just straight up racist depictions we don't have you know and forgive me for using this because it's old, but we don't have like a Cosby version of like a Muslim family or like we don't have any kind of connection outside of really the news and maybe Rami. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Like these are the kinds of representations like the average American knows of this community. average american knows of this community and it's it's kind of horrifying to think about how we do this consistently across like other communities if you think about like the indigenous community just got their very first sitcom right just that's it like one piece of representation that's been put behind a paywall and i think a lot of times i i don't want to conflate too much the entertainment world with like how we respond to these communities but i also think that we have we can tangibly see change when these communities are given space and proper representation like there's we unfortunately need stories to connect and empathetically to others and i it's just horrifying to think about you know if you if you have either
Starting point is 00:43:29 muslim friends or friends who have been confused for muslim and you like listen to their stories and how they've been treated the it's overwhelming it's overwhelming to consider the the kind of they have to go through right because there's even like there's multiple dimensions, whether it's just a lazy media who just gets caught in like telling the same dumb stories over and over. And that's how it's perpetuated. In another sense, it has to be done. If these people aren't humanized, then it allows for the same foreign policy to keep moving at the same speed at which it moves.
Starting point is 00:44:01 It allows for all of this military spending and it allows for us to put arms into the hands of quote unquote allies in their quote unquote fight against terrorism, which is really just terror campaigns that involve innocent civilians. And I think because this is, you know, I think it's just the sort of the nature of how all of these things are in service of each other. And in this case, whatever our goals are in the Middle East, especially, I mean, oil, if we're talking about the Iraq war and things like that, it's just left a big hole in being able to look at the totality of how it's all connected rather than just like, oh, maybe it's because we don't have enough shows or this other thing. There's so many things that just lead back to our own foreign policy and American imperialism and how it's all in service of all of these things. And we have no idea what his motivation is right now, other than that it was premeditated and based on their religion. We don't know if he
Starting point is 00:45:06 was a neo-Nazi, but you can't disconnect cultural representation and the fact that we just lived through and are continuing to live through this international conflict where every night the mainstream media is treating the lives of Palestinian people and Muslim lives as if they matter less than other people's lives. Like that's, you can't divorce that from just how people view each other in the world. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about the smelliest states.
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Starting point is 00:50:03 Who is the smelliest of us? What does this even mean? That's a great question. It is very, it's probably too subjective, but I don't know their methodology, but that's the most important thing I feel like, right? Yes,
Starting point is 00:50:14 totally. I immediately clicked on it too, because I was like, well, California has got to be up there because California, because all the hippies, you know, shower.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Am I right? No, because California So California is a large part of California is a desert that they have carved a society into and
Starting point is 00:50:38 there's just you know, all our trash is out here baking in the sun and it is it can be a smelly place. New York, also a very smelly city in the summer months. Oh, yeah. So those all made the top 10. So I was like, okay, maybe.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Number one, Maryland. And I'm guessing that people at least are implying it has something to do with the crabs because it's close to the DC swamp right but I don't know and then I noticed that like a bunch of the top 10 states are states that I've spent time in
Starting point is 00:51:17 and I'm like New Jersey, New York Pennsylvania, California yeah right by DC Maryland is basically Washington DC New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, California. Yeah, right by D.C. Maryland is basically Washington, D.C. Yeah. That's like Massachusetts, where I went to high school.
Starting point is 00:51:32 It's really a stench is following me around. Then it says a very specific part of Hollywood. It's kind of near our production offices, too. It says honorable mention. So maybe this does have some wow it follows you around this i really need to know the method because i would love to be able to be like that makes sense because it sounds like the like the way you even described it is how like this was like the study was involved someone's like yeah you know it's like california
Starting point is 00:52:01 it's like a desert so it's like hot and there's like cows so there's shit and be like yeah yeah yeah okay okay so we'll give that three points okay what else who else has something weed okay yeah that too um but like do you go and like is it a survey of like the most complaints about odors and things like that i mean i know we have like the sriracha factory that was like for a while causing a lot of problems because people were like, I can't like my eyes burn from living near the factory. So the way I'm looking at the methodology, how we determine this, we started with undisputed metrics of grocery. What? So this is not a fully. Mary J.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Blige doing this? Of grocery. In this grocery line dirty air, trash or the percentage of each state that is landfill I'm more offended at the lack of creativity in writing this
Starting point is 00:52:56 article, this could have been a funny as hell article you could have slam dunked on New York for three hours, like just on their trash issues alone. How are you a major city? And you still haven't figured out your trash situation. That's gross.
Starting point is 00:53:11 I have been to many of these States and I swear, I don't know what you're talking. Like it is the most confusing cities would have been better. Stick to cities. As you want to be real specific neighborhoods and cities, you would have caused fights, but that's what the internet is for. Right. Really narrow it down. Get to where cause fights? That's what the internet is for. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Really narrow it down. Get to where is it so smelly we cannot live. Population density and dental health by state were also evaluated. What? Get the fuck out. Also, they're trying to be like, oh, so if you got the most bad breath, the worst hygiene, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, because I'm almost like, how much, like, if you get in an Uber, how likely are you to be hit with a wall of cologne when you get in an Uber in this given area?
Starting point is 00:53:52 That's a metric I would use because sometimes, you know what? The first time I got an Uber with one of those KN94 like Korean filter masks, I knew that shit was working because when I got out of the car and I let my mask down, the interior perfume smell like wafted out. I was like, shit, like this did actually like get cut down on a lot of what I was inhaling. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:54:14 that's like another version. I don't want to say like, well, what else? I think the temperature is definitely one. And then temperature along with like pubescent people too. Who like just don't know how to bathe and shit. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:29 You know what I mean? If you got a ton of youngsters and it's hot, that's probably, that's like a good recipe for spring. Volume of Axe body spray sold. Yeah. In the whole area. Totally.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Totally. Open air fish markets. Let's go. Yeah. Like, cause yeah, we got the one in San Pedro. But when you go there, I guess that's the thing. So much is subjective, contextual. It's just like salt and air. It's natural.
Starting point is 00:54:56 What is the worst thing you smell in public? What's an odious sensation that is so offensive to you when you're out? Just personally to each of you're out just personally to each of you what is something that you hate being like oh god somebody tweeted and i can't remember who it was but that california has by far the most dog shit on sidewalks of any major city i don't know what it is about being out here that people are just like i'm not going to pick up my dog poop but it's disgusting and it's foul and some of you have dogs that have like human-sized poops yeah and then it's hot and i'm walking down the street and it just smacks me in the face and
Starting point is 00:55:31 it's disgusting that's a good one yeah hot garbage new york city has uh like they're you know it its highs are much higher the bad smells that you hit in new york city because it's just new combinations of garbage that have never been smelled before are a lab are baking in the sun for new amounts of time you know that like so black bags too yeah and black bag heat so you're you will hit just unbelievable levels of creativity but it'll be like one or two blocks on like a couple months out of the year yeah and but sometimes man they would like i don't know what how new york deals with all all of its garbage but sometimes i remember there would just be like an entire city block they would have just like put all the trash like there for some reason there's just like alleyways or like massive snow drifts of yeah
Starting point is 00:56:26 exactly it's just piles of trash yeah on the street why ew yeah i think yeah another metric would be to like to test the curb water of a city because that's how you know like new york would be off the charts oh you just made me like you just hit little puddles by the curb you're like no get a sample of that and you're like it melted the specimen tube that was glass because my second choice was going to be garbage juice like in chicago we have dumpsters uh it can get pretty hot but it's also extremely humid in the summer and so like like even after the garbage it's taken out there's like a thick layer of garbage juice that's just been baked into the bottom of the dumpster right and she's constantly cutting and
Starting point is 00:57:09 it's it's a lot like you either have to power wash it or just live with that funk for the rest of eternity and it's the most disgusting it's so gross if you ever had to take out like i worked at a movie theater where we had like old soda and stuff in the dumpster and stale popcorn that's then just heated in um we have like this big garage and you know so there if it's 90 degrees outside it's 120 in that garage just baking stale soda and popcorn together and that smell there it's not a competition it's like that and maybe i don't know a carnival uh outhouse port-a-potty yeah they've got that like kind of perfume over the top you know what's an under underrated bad smell is and it's weird that these two coincide with one another but if you ever have like flowers that you
Starting point is 00:58:08 leave in the water for too long and they like start to rot in the water and like there's that kind of smell of decay and then the only other place I've smelled that is like when my grandfather was getting really old and there's like he just his
Starting point is 00:58:24 breath started smelling like that a little bit. Cold vase water. Yeah. Old vase water. That's why I don't like gin. It reminds me of that water. Well, gin is like flower water. I know.
Starting point is 00:58:35 But that's why like in my mind, whenever I've had straight gin, I'm like, oh, this tastes like that shit in the old flower pot. Hell no. Gin is bad, man. Pour me up some hypnotic and Hennessy please i'm gonna double my good man but yeah the other thing i will say that with joelle like realizing there's a piece of dog shit roasting in the sun near you that's like a where you go and then because i have a dog too and then like i'm like oh that's right i'll be sitting down outside in the chair and he'll just
Starting point is 00:59:03 want to take a shit near where I'm sitting. And then suddenly I'm like, what the fuck is that? And then it appears terrible. But yeah, California should always be number one. Okay. No matter what. Even if we're stinky. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Parents know that like, you know, you live through some, some pretty aggressive bad shit the what my son what my three-year-old put my face last night uh in the minute like that what woke me up was a smell that was not great that's what i was doing at five this morning every time i learned more about having kids the more i'm like oh god no oh god i learned yesterday that women produce blood clots from their boobs when they're breastfeeding what they don't tell you this it's awful and you love every second of it
Starting point is 00:59:56 and you love them for it you're like I kind of like that smell even though it's the worst thing I've ever ever hit my brain there was one of my friends, oh, never mind. I don't even want to talk about it. I'm just going to completely derail this entire episode.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Let's talk about unidentified submerged objects. They're the new hot shit and unexplained sightings as opposed to unidentified aerial phenomena. Wait, these are like submarines are now catching water ships water subs are starting to catch water ships and things that are again moving at speeds that shouldn't be physically possible
Starting point is 01:00:32 and this tracking it too like just like with the jets like it's not some blip or whatever they're like no this is out in there we're seeing this yeah and so we talked before about how a lot of the UAP activity that the military is coming forward with and being like, yeah, we we we got nothing. You guys have any ideas is happening around the ocean. And like some UFOlogists think that that's because that's where the these societies are coming from, like is under the ocean. It's easier when they're just like, yo, we don't know what's going on. They're like, it's because Triton is down there with his army of goons
Starting point is 01:01:14 ready to come out and get us. I don't subscribe to that. I still think it's because they know that there aren't as many people out there and it's just vast and they can get away with doing whatever they want out there but the so one of the underrated details of the 60 minutes eyewitness testimony that we've talked about quite a bit on this show is that the white tic-tac that they
Starting point is 01:01:35 spotted was moving erratically and randomly over an area of white water the size of a 747 they described it as looking like there was an aircraft or some other object just below the surface of the water. So it was like still water. And then roiling like white waves were breaking over this like one small area. And they were like, it just seemed like it was there was something submerged just below the surface of the water. When they went back, it had disappeared. And then since that report, there's been anecdotes coming from naval officers saying that just like the air force they see stuff moving faster and should be physically possible underwater on the regular basically and then there's this video from the navy that's worth watching it shows this like black round craft moving through the air closer and closer to the ocean almost like it's like a
Starting point is 01:02:33 graphing calculator on a straight like line down it gets closer and closer and then you hear the people on board saying it's getting pretty close uh and then it disappears underwater reappears and then disappears again and the thing that's compelling is there's like a massive splash that you can see on the camera uh it can't be a spec on the camera or a photographic light orb or a hologram because it makes a massive splash when it goes on because nessie has evolved yes she's been going slow but but the technology has caught up and she realizes that if she wants to keep her secret she's gonna have to really push herself so she's been in the gym getting those gains thank you faster now yes dodging these cameras they can't see her so fast i think she's a submarine and i'm really proud of our girl i'm proud of her for evolving i'm proud of her for staying out of sight she doesn't need these
Starting point is 01:03:18 photographers in her life i think you just leave her alone she's like okay you want it now you got it i've she's like now like mecca gojira but she's like the loch ness mon mecca nessie yeah yeah wow yeah i don't god i just you know a few people have uh messaged me like yeah like there's you should check out some of these things from like skeptic like you know like sort of scientific skeptics around the thing which yeah i'm down to look at too because i'm not i'm not all in on any one theory but all i know is i just want the fuck is going on please something yeah i've looked at the a handful of skeptic videos usually the ones that are sent to us by listeners and i haven't found any of them, I think they explain some of the things that people are referring to when they talk about unidentified aerial phenomenon. Like a lot of the times it's like light orbs or they're seeing a balloon. But because of perspective, it's far away, but it seems like it's moving really fast.
Starting point is 01:04:20 But it doesn't explain the thing that we're talking about where a military jet flew right up to it they were circling each other and then it like just disappeared and was spotted moments later miles like 100 miles away or something right or this one where it's something that they see that they're locked onto and then they see it like go underwater and splash. If this is like the stealth bomber, I remember sounds like what late 90s when they were like, there's this thing and it's outdoing radar. Like, how is it possible? And then the government had to be like, you know, that's us. We created a plane and it's fine.
Starting point is 01:05:01 How do we think like this will change the face of warfare or will it i mean if it's if it can be militarized you know they're horny as fuck at the pentagon to figure out how to do that right i mean my hope is that they that it's not some military technology that's i don't know like nothing nothing about it makes sense to me as military technology, because the military are the ones coming forward and being like, yo, we don't know what the fuck this is. Granted, they could be lying, but it seems like a weird move to be lying. Right. It's the most poorly managed viral campaign for the rollout of a new jet you've ever seen. I don't know, y'all.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Okay. Any of you guys know hey the boys at lockheed martin have an idea come on got your asses you thought it was aliens nah we did that fuck around like shout out to r and d out here uh i don't know that's that's yeah it's it's that's what i think makes it very freaky but also you wish that it it is something that isn't from the military. So then they're like, wait, something could be better than our bombs and shit. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Listen, here's, here's the best thing that I can picture it being. Somebody out there is like, listen, I am tired of the slow travel it's a problem we can get to france in less than 12 hours it's too much time on a plane seconds to get to a beautiful country now we can do it in seconds and even more boss this thing can be underwater or it can be in the air it doesn't matter like it can take off from underwater that would be the best thing. We already have trains that go underwater. Why not planes that can take off from under the sea? Why? I'm not sure,
Starting point is 01:06:51 but I think, listen, if, if the water levels keep rising and the ice keeps melting, this person is really far in the future. They're really thinking about like, how are we going to continue our capital society? Once we're underwater,
Starting point is 01:07:02 this is the way. Hmm. Richard Bransonanson show yourself say this is for the new virgin whatever line you've concocted i think the most hopeful thing is that it is aliens because then they are a super advanced society that isn't killing us like so it suggests that like the more advanced you become the more you're just like no why the fuck will we kill you
Starting point is 01:07:30 for idiots yeah killings for people like the stone ages and you are essentially just emerging from the stone ages you just don't realize idiots haven't figured out abundance right oh my god what the fuck look like four people have all this shit and they're fighting
Starting point is 01:07:47 each other over what the fuck these no i ain't getting out i ain't no no zoom me out let's go let's go back secretly cleaning the oceans for us they're like this stupid race is gonna kill themselves the weird they're pandas right they're pandas they're just like no it's in line they're like man there's sperm counts going down what the fuck die they're not fucking in producing like they used to it's really a problem and i think city girls is gonna have a new album out soon so we gotta keep this thing going yeah ain't no dick like millionaire dick. We all know that up here. But they really, I don't know. Part of me, like it does coincide with a lot of like alien conspiracy stuff that like, you know, I would hear growing up from my family about like, you know, like, you know what happened to Atlantis, right? Because I have people like that in my family.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Yeah. Humans could have never built the pyramids. Definitely aliens. yeah humans could have never built a pyramid right aliens but sort of this idea though too that like there there have always been these you know the the over watching kind dinoid or dolphin symbiote whatever people who have like just intervene at the last moment so we don't fuck ourselves up and then they like they fuck off so i'm sure this gives a lot of uh momentum to some interesting family conversations i'll have next time. Yeah, man. You know who it is, right?
Starting point is 01:09:09 I'm like, yes, it's the dynoid people. I know. We already talked about this. All right. Well, Joelle, as always, such a pleasure to have you on the show. Where can people find you and follow you? Yeah. Y'all know me. I'm Joelle Monique.
Starting point is 01:09:23 You can find me all over the Internet. At Joelle Monique. That's J-O-E-L-L-E-M-O-N-I-Q-U-E. Y'all know me. Still Joelle Monique. They're like, Mr. O'Brien is the dopest literature teacher we've ever had. Was that
Starting point is 01:09:42 the one that was revealed to have been written by Jay-Z? Yes. Yeah. I guess not revealed, just like a lot of people just noticed it. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes. Okay. So I'm going to butcher your name.
Starting point is 01:09:58 So Declan on the deck, Declan on the deck, that is the ad on Twitter, has a theory about the Marvel series and you guys already know i'm a big marvel comic book head and i say each series this is a new television series that are out represents an infinity stone after the blip i know this is greek to some of you but just hold with me one wandavision would be like the reality stone because she changed her reality to avoid the truth of grief and all of her relatives uh falcon and the winter soldier is the mind stone because people's minds were changed after the war or after the uh blip and how it was like going to like how the world was going to operate and how our borders were going to go and then three loki is about time and how the timeline has this
Starting point is 01:10:37 importance and how the events of 2023 changed everything for the people we have been trying to figure out like what do these theories mean how are they going to feed into the second phase of the marvel cinematic universe and i really i vibe with this theory i love the idea that despite the stones being gone their impact the last it's very uh astrology of the storyline and it makes me really happy i have not seen the new loki but i'm excited to see if this theory holds up throughout the series wow uh i'm gonna give that a owen wilson i gotta watch i gotta watch those avengers films owen wilson is back baby yeah he is did you see tom hiddleston's impression
Starting point is 01:11:18 of owen wilson it was really good yeah i'm just happy to have Owen Wilson back in my life. I like that dude. He's a precious baby. Oh yeah. Precious, precious. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Also the other show for 20 day fiance, go to twitch.tv slash for 20 day fiance to, you know, come check, come hang. I'm see, see a do us do what we do and all that. A tweet that I like. Oh boy. There's a few now. Let's see. First one.
Starting point is 01:11:52 First, first one. First one is from Trash Jones at JZUX. Tweeted, deleting my dating apps because I want to meet someone the old fashioned way. He sells me onions. I sell him jars of spiced peaches. someone the old fashioned way. He sells me onions. I sell him jars of spiced peaches. Another
Starting point is 01:12:07 one is from Andrew Nadeau at the Andrew Nadeau saying Sam being able to carry Frodo and not be affected by the ring means the ring doesn't understand transitive properties. So they could have just taped the ring to a mouse and then carried the mouse with no ill effects. Whole thing would have taken 20 minutes.
Starting point is 01:12:25 What? Yeah. That's better than a big evil theory. I really like that. What the fuck y'all doing? Just tape that ring to a mouse and keep it in your pocket. Straight there. Oh my god.
Starting point is 01:12:38 That's amazing. I like your literary tweets, Miles. That was great. Got a holes reference and Lord of the Rings. Brilliant. Oh, I didn't even know that first one was a holes reference europe europe uh a couple tweets i've been enjoying natalie walker tweeted wild that helena bonham carter has to exist in the summertime lucy diavolo lucy diavolo, inclusive youth pastor voice. Cool. Now that we know everyone's pronouns, let's get into some proverbs.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Wow. Oh, fuck. Ian Dukes tweeted, age is just a number. Yeah, the older I get, the number I feel. And then Cullen at HelloColin tweeted, if Mayor of Easttown was good at high school basketball in the 90s, they wouldn't have called her the Lady Hawk. They would have called her Mayor Jordan, which is just true.
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Starting point is 01:13:53 talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song are we suggesting people check out? This is from an artist called Pink Pantherous. That was really dope. Based on what I'm hearing, she sounds like she's from the UK.
Starting point is 01:14:13 But it has this kind of organic drum and bass feel to it. And it's really poppy. I don't know how else to describe it. But if you like those words I just used, you will like this track. It's very upbeat. And I just love when just hearing kind of like old school kind of two-step from the bass kind of vibes. And the newer music for the youth them. For the youth them. Pink pant thrift.
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