The Daily Zeitgeist - Crofton Comes Alive: WetttBoiz & Top Gun 12.13.22

Episode Date: December 13, 2022

In episode 1390, Jack and Miles (AKA, The WetttBoiz) are joined by comedian, musician, writer and host of Cold Brew Got Me Like, Chris Crofton, to discuss… R. Richard, Parents, Top Gun deserving top... accolades (according to the Right) and much more! 1.TOP GUN: MAVERICK IS THE RIGHT’S LATEST CULTURE-WAR CRUSADE 2. No, Top Gun: Maverick’s success isn’t down to being pro-America and anti-woke 3. Top Gun: Maverick is a success, so right-wing culture warriors are claiming it LISTEN: Mysterbirds - CutsoSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:38 it's Episode 1. It's a production of iHeartRadio and also a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness for all you first-time listeners uh it's tuesday december 13th 2022 special happy birthday shout out to my little sister caitlin hey caitlin 4-0 happy birthday any any other days miles well you know look obviously respect yeah respect on caitlin's d-day and also i just will mention uh it's it's hot cocoa day uh and and one that is weird
Starting point is 00:02:11 national day of the horse it's like word it's so fucking aggressive yeah that is national day of the horse yes which feels like white supremacist foreboding yeah like nordic yeah nordic or i mean it could also be similar to like year of the pig year of the rat day of the horse it just feels like like a terrible like colonizer massacre or something that is like the day of the horse but it's just about hey shout out to the fucking equine homies more days should do something like that just like have fun with how you name it it adds some gravitas oh right right like the annual celebration of the commencement of hot cocoa imagine if it was the horsey instead of the horse. National Day of the Horse. National Day of the Horse.
Starting point is 00:03:06 It would really undermine the seriousness of the holiday. National Day of the Horse. Fuck, I didn't even know. My horse is out in the yard. I didn't even give him anything. Nothing special. Get that salt lick out. Get out of here. You can't stay inside today.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Get your salt lick out. I just said a bunch of rude shit to him like usual. Yeah, I didn't know it was National Day of the Horse. I would have been like, listen, you're looking good or whatever. I would have said that to him. Well, shout out
Starting point is 00:03:37 the horse, man. Shout out your horse. Yeah, my horse is in the yard. My name is the Jack O'Brien, aka check out these pale white plumpers yeah that's what i call my legs my chubby little plumpers are the color of nog eggs if you hate the term plumpers well you're not the only one when i call my legs plumpers my dad will not call me son then one one choogy Christmas Eve miles miles came to say Jackie with your thighs.
Starting point is 00:04:12 So bright. Let's co-host the daily site. So now we do some podcasts on things like shack in a tree. You can catch these old plumpers on zeitgeist and on mad boosties shout out to josiah uh j-o-z-a-i-y-a on twitter said accursed daily zeitgeist aka what blake wexler birthed into existence cannot be undone we are all so much worse off for it and amen yeah i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray it's miles gray lover of saturday so he's miles gray aka saturday saturday saturday saturday saturday saturday saturday saturday saturday saturday saturday day saturday day okay shout out to
Starting point is 00:05:13 lacaroni for turning every morning by sugar ray into just saturday over and over again because it's just about yelling saturday saturday saturday saturday saturday um yeah yeah somebody's that for 10 hours chris hey who's chris um you can find just a looped version of that part of the song for 10 hours if you're if you're curious s-a-t-u-r-d-a-y night s-a-t-u-R-D-A-Y. Night. S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y. Oh, I wonder if that, yeah, a Saturday. Is that Bay City Rollers? Yeah. Yeah. They were a big part of my life when I was in fifth grade.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Oh, really? Okay. People were like, they're the shit, man. The kids were like, man, you think Led Zeppelin's good? You're out of your mind. PCR. I'm not kidding like kids were dead serious about that band like i remember everybody just being like yep i mean music's
Starting point is 00:06:10 pretty much topped out this is it jesus i think we're done here and i was like even even as a fifth grader i was like i don't know i think these guys might be a flash in the pan right oh wait so are you kidding me what's it i mean i'm curious too because when those songs are they're so like saccharine they're like like you know they're just kind of they're like they feel like they were whatever the equivalent of like an algorithm is now but right and when you hear people be like this is it well i know you like we're obviously the contrarian child were you in your mind being like go fucking listen to blah blah blah i mean i wasn't a music snob but i was in fifth grade yet no i just you know i but that is a funny idea that there was
Starting point is 00:06:50 nothing yeah there was nothing i could turn them on to like i you know it would have been like you know they're sellouts you should listen to captain and to neil you know i mean i didn't have any right there was no they were in the hat i didn't know about anybody with cred oh you like this band check out casey and the fucking Sunshine Band. Yeah, if you want to hear the real deal. I was just picturing a five-year-old or a ten-year-old-sized Chris Crofton that looks exactly like the current Chris Crofton.
Starting point is 00:07:17 That's kind of true. Smoking a cigarette and telling the kids. Except I had red hair. I did not smoke cigarettes when I was in fifth grade. I thought I was going to be a lawyer. You're straight edge. Yeah. Well, I fifth grade. I was like, I thought I was going to be a lawyer. You're straight edge. Yeah. Well, I didn't know any better, but I thought I was going to be a lawyer because it was
Starting point is 00:07:29 the only job I knew about. Hey, who's that voice? That voice is someone we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat. A hilarious stand-up comedian, actor, musician with a 7.6 rated album on Pitchfork. You can listen to his podcast cold brew got me like anywhere fine podcasts are given away for free his new book the advice king anthology is available now anywhere fine books are sold the poetry window is open because it's chris motherfucking crofton what's up what's up i'm so happy i'm so happy to be here
Starting point is 00:08:01 What's up? What's up? I'm so happy. I'm so happy to be here. I'm going to clear my throat. Hold on. I know you've been saying this in your other podcasts. I'm not kidding.
Starting point is 00:08:14 My cold brew got me like, clear my throat. Cold brew got me like, clear my throat. This is what my fucking show should be called. And we got to do something about it. Question. You said when you clear your throat, what is it achieving? Is it that you're trying to knock something loose? Is it that you're scratching a throat itch? Walking through your throat.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Just trying to get the attention of the room? I don't know. Certainly not. I don't think that's helping the look of older white men when they do that. It does seem like that's what they're doing. But I think most of the time it's just something's fucking caught. And it sucks. Flemmy just something's fucking caught. Yeah. And it sucks.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Flemmy. Yeah, it's not good. It's not good on a first date. It's not good. It's not good on any. It's not good for a single man to be running around clearing his throat. It's the opposite of what a woman wants. A woman wants moisture.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Mm. Okay. A woman wants. Put it on a T-shirt. Put it on a T-shirt. A woman wants people to be flexible and ready for action not dried out and fucking stand you know i'll help you with the stroller as soon as i'm done doing you know i'll be right there to help you with the baby why does daddy make a
Starting point is 00:09:21 scary noise i don't know he's old. I should never have married him. Daddy sounds like an old radiator. Is daddy trying to command the room again? I never fully... The movie Big Fish, the Tim Burton movie, the main character, the dad, the legend dad character, repeatedly keeps saying, as an old man, I was just dried out uh when they would like find him in a pond i don't really remember that movie that well but i remember that line because
Starting point is 00:09:51 i was so baffled by like were they like trying to make it a thing like a quote because he says it multiple times i think um like a slug yeah maybe it was just a very realistic portrayal of aging you know i mean it like you can look at the pictures of miles i'm looking at a screen right now because we're doing this via zoom so i'm looking at two moist dudes miles over here yeah miles and jack both look like you know there's not going to be an emergency situation where they you know can't get to the fire exit because they're clearing their throat and in the middle there's me and i look fucking dry before we start recording the last thing i say is the cords are dewy let's get it let's get it on exactly i say every time yeah
Starting point is 00:10:35 it's like you guys are a couple of wet boys and i'm out dry wet boys yeah so anyway yes it's kind of a thing like uh i just uh do everything sort of like uh without preparation in a way like i mean like i just i'm not it doesn't occur to me like oh you should really like clear your throat a bunch before this fucking podcast but then yesterday it got out of hand the one that we're putting up tonight uh the new episode of which is so fucking good like we really have gotten hit our stride it's yeah funny man today was the most recent one that we're putting up tonight it's the funniest one we've ever done oh it's so fucking fun i mean it's insane but the labor went that went into d throat clearing
Starting point is 00:11:15 but we had to like i had to like edit it there's just like a lot of noises on there you know and i was just like that is not you know like i can't we got to do something i don't know if there's a filter like called like you know the old you know young you know, like, I can't. We got to do something. I don't know if there's a filter, like, called, like, you know, the old, you know, young, you know. Called wet boy. It's called wet boy. Something, yeah, like a wet boy. What are you putting your mic through? You got to, like, on a cloud lifter or something?
Starting point is 00:11:33 You got to be putting that through a wet boy pedal. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the moisturizer. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I got to put something through. Vocal moisturizer? Yeah. That's just a plug-in.
Starting point is 00:11:42 So, anyway, we're working on it. People who are fans of the show, you know, and we have a lot of crossover. A lot of it people are fans of the show you know and we have a lot of crossover a lot of our fans are fans of you guys of course and so you know just we're working on it don't if your objection was too dry yeah they're working on it we're working on them i'm getting my neck worked on just pre pre-show medical procedure yeah light medical procedure yeah i mean it's it happens pretty quick too like you know it's just one minute you're one minute you never clear your throat the next minute you know you're fucking clearing your throat seriously there is nothing you know i
Starting point is 00:12:14 don't think unless you're like already famous professor or something and it's like maybe matches like somehow like that could be a thing where you're oh he's he's got gravitas because he clears his throat or something because he's like already an author i mean i'm an author but i'd have way more successful author but if you're like rudyard kipling and you're going around your through clearing your throat then you're probably it's a power move but for me it's just like it's just what's this ass i'm on hinge you don't want to be fucking clearing your throat while you're on your wine holiday or whatever whatever you fucking basic motherfucker wants to do with their goddamn hinge life right you know hinge those apps you know we've talked about that before oh yeah last person they want they want to do a selfie with a fucking boat
Starting point is 00:12:54 and a glass of wine the last thing they want is some motherfucker clear in their throat reminding reminding them of their mortality yeah could you stop death rattling on my selfie picturing like somebody with a glass of champagne in the air boat in the background like face to the side catching their good face and then you're in the background like mid-cough yeah just like you're you know who clears their throat less than you joe biden i was gonna say jo. Joe Biden is wet compared to you. That's right. All right, Chris, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we might get to today.
Starting point is 00:13:33 We'll see. We might talk about the next COVID wave that's coming and how it coincides with Elon's cool joke about his pronouns. We're going to talk about Tucker Carlson getting up in arms about CBS carrying butt plugs and how that kind of flow charted through the right. Some investigations that both new Congresses or both parties are talking about that they're going to go after in the new Congress. that they're going to go after in the new Congress. And, of course, they have announced the Golden Globes and Top Gun Maverick got nominated for Best Picture. And The Right is celebrating?
Starting point is 00:14:13 I guess The Right claimed that as their movie. So we'll talk about all of that or some of that. Maybe none of it. Plenty more, though. But first, Chris, we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Okay. Well, I don't know if we're allowed to.
Starting point is 00:14:30 If you've listened to my podcast, you know this story. But recently, I mean, it's worth repeating. When I was in the 90s, I was working as a production assistant on a pornography, 24-hour channel like a like a like a satellite channel that showed pornography i mean spice i bet i think it was spice okay i didn't know i couldn't remember the name of it all good um i only work the job two days okay more than enough very action-packed days i'm sure once a Once a month, the Spice Channel, I swear it was the Spice Channel. I just couldn't think of it. They had a live taping.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Everything was like, you know, they had a bunch of VCRs running. That's all it was at that time. And like 97 was just a bank of VCRs showing porn movies forever on a loop. And my friend, friend, you know, not a good friend, but I mean, anyway. I'll tell you more about like our friendship later but um uh he's uh he was running the vcrs basically he was just keeping the vcrs going and so he was like but he knew me and he for some reason knew that i would like this job which was coming in on the day they had the home shopping channel for sex toys. And they had real porn stars, like big name porn stars, come in and demonstrate the sex toys.
Starting point is 00:15:49 I got to pick out what they got to wear. And I also got to pair which one with which other one. I got to pick who got to be with whoever to demonstrate the product. Oh, my God. My friend was basically like, this is my gift to you to do that job we knew you always wanted to be a stylist for porn shoots i think he just knew i was into porn you know which is just so sad you know it's the same that's the same as saying someone's lonely i know you're lonely i mean it's not like a quality that you want oh chris would love this because he loves
Starting point is 00:16:20 porn i just but i also love the idea that's like also part of the gig is you got to figure out what they're gonna wear chris no it was insane i was so i was like standing around holding like fucking g-strings and like just like holding them up next to something like i don't know is this more you and some of the porn stars were porn stars that i knew you know right intimately and um and uh yeah and and so the guy who keeps clearing his throat and ruining the shot just told me he loves my work i was wet back then i was moist this is disgusting this whole thing needs to go um so this is back when i was a wet boy so uh i anyway had the time of my life doing that job because I was just like I also got to see, you know, some of the porn stars were like just like really sexual and like masturbating in the green room and stuff. And I was like, wow, this is like the healthy ones. You know, they're like, can't wait to get in there.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I wish we were really fucking. We can't fuck on camera. You know, we can't fuck. It's only we can't show penetration on this channel or whatever. So that was like more what I was thinking. Like that was like the free love kind of side of porn. Right. Like the more healthy, like I'm just super horny and I love this industry.
Starting point is 00:17:32 But then there was like the pimp side, like this one porn star. I don't know if I should say her name, but she's an author. Okay. Yeah. I mean, anyway. You don't need to. Okay. Well, anyway, you're going to gonna find out but i'll just say some
Starting point is 00:17:46 porn star right there was a big porn star at the time my friend who ran the channel was making her say a bunch of stuff like for this for the um like pitch the channel like he was making her say like spice up your living room or whatever and then but then he's for fun he tried to like you know not a nice way he tried to make her say big words on purpose. He said, turn your living room into a den of debauchery. And she'd never heard that word, obviously. And she got very angry. And her pimp husband got very angry and said it was a stupid word.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Still remember that. And it was, turn your living room into a den of debauchery. So I helpfully, I just wanted to interact with this porn star. So I went over with a piece of paper that I had written debauchery, like, fanatically on. Right. And I handed it to her, and her husband was like, not a nice guy. And he was like, she doesn't need to say it. It's a stupid word.
Starting point is 00:18:38 This whole thing is stupid. Right. And, like, you know, just like that kind of thing. And so anyway, she wrote a book years later and uh it's called um anatomy of an adult film so i just thought oh my gosh because i was wondering if that woman survived because that's like a shitty relationship between her and her husband he seemed controlling and i didn't like it anyway she survived and thrived yeah i was gonna say was your google search history debauchery, or was it this person's book?
Starting point is 00:19:05 And it is the book. It's the book. I just looked her up. I just looked her up. I mean, I don't think it's a big deal to say her name, but you guys can. I'm just not going to say it. But anyway, I'll say the name of her co-author. Because this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:19:15 It's her book. It's not terrible, but just very boring. It's about how to make it in the porn industry. It's actually very technical. Right. It's kind of like just... Field user's guide? Yeah. it's actually very technical right um it's kind of like just field users guide yeah it's like
Starting point is 00:19:25 gross like you know just like pointers for porn stars like how to like take a facial and shit like that you know uh you can cancel this whole episode now um so anyway she had a co-author turns out for this book okay and his name is r richard r richard richard interesting and he is the most prolific and horrible author there ever was and he has become i'm very interested in this man i also think that r richard is he's obviously i don't know he's like simultaneously like really really convinced of his talent but then also embarrassed enough to call himself r richard like the night stalker what's that like the night stalker is that okay well i don't know but r richard is like not helpful for a search if you search r richard on the internet you get pretty much every result you search r
Starting point is 00:20:20 richard it's like you mean richard ramirez It's just a nightmare. It doesn't make sense. Wait, what? So on her website for this book, Anatomy of an Adult Film, that she co-wrote with R. Richard, she wrote nothing. But then R. Richard wrote his whole biography. He has an avatar that looks like a Dungeons and Dragons person. He talks about how he's a kung fu fighter. And then he lists his books, okay? So he has written Anat of an adult film but then he
Starting point is 00:20:47 wrote he has a series called second chance okay second chance is the name of like you know i guess like the john wick or something you know for him it's like it's like a series like i don't know what's what's another series like i don't know jack reacher the jack reacher books but this one's called second chance second chance so he has like a million books second chance like the lord of the Jack Reacher, the Jack Reacher book. But this one's called Second Chance. Second Chance. So he has like a million books named Second Chance. Like the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Yes, except this is called Second Chance, which is like not very action-packed name for a series.
Starting point is 00:21:15 You know what I mean? Like Lord of the Rings, I'm like, yeah, what's that about? Second Chance? Yeah. That sounds like a drug and alcohol pamphlet. Listen to this. Second Chance colon, god killer. Second chance sky pirate.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Second chance scroll seeker. Second chance king of the islands. Second chance king of Zaya. Second chance duke of Avera. Second chance king of Goleman. Second chance king of the sky. Second chance warlord of Africa. Second chance king of Arapi.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Second chance king of Macedonia. second chance king of arab second chance king of macedonia second chance king of avuls second chance i mean i'm not gonna even do any more of those okay there's like a million of them i just found his page on goodreads and it says uh popular answered questions from him like where where i guess you get to like do a author interview and the first one is how do you deal with writer's block? Our Richard, I have never had writer's block. Okay. Not even close asshole.
Starting point is 00:22:12 It's not. Yeah. And the, okay. So adventurer is another series. He has adventure, another fucking action packed, man.
Starting point is 00:22:20 You got to figure out what goes before the colon. It's the first thing you see. Adventurer colon simulation see. Adventurer, colon, simulation problem. Adventurer, panner problem. P-A-N-N-A-R. Adventurer, sailing problem. I'm in. Then just a bunch of fucking titles.
Starting point is 00:22:38 48 novels and 290 short stories currently published. I'm just going to hit you with some of these titles because they're just incredible. Okay, so those are his series, Adventurer and Second Chance. And then here's just his straight-up novels, right? A Programmer's Gambit, Amateur Stripper, Bondage House, Corporate Sex Slaves, Friday Night. Ooh, that one's intriguing. Go Naked in the Software. Go Naked in the Software grass grasshopper winter involuntary nude layoff not a hero pirates of the keys summer of sex what the the beach murders
Starting point is 00:23:21 the beach dealers the secret life of Wanda Wilson. Did you read the one that he just has one book called Big Cock? I didn't get that. But it's, it's, it's, I think, you know, Grasshopper Winter is my favorite. Grasshopper Winter is great. Because it's just like, I don't know what it's like. It's like, you know, it's just like, I don't know, it's things it's like uh you know it's just like i don't know things you don't you know it's like a very i don't know like i think of like the leather decision i'm sorry dude this description of big cock it i i'm i don't know i
Starting point is 00:23:57 don't even know what i'm reading and i don't know if my intelligence has just drastically gone down it just says jim mack is an 18-old man growing up with a very large cock. Hannah is a rich lady who owns a near-bankrupt factory. Heather is Hannah's 18-year-old daughter. Hannah could still be a rich lady, but the factory goes bankrupt. However, lots of people...
Starting point is 00:24:19 This is the description. Yeah, he doesn't have writer's block because he's insane. He's never used the backspace key or the arrow key. Insane people do't have writer's block because he's insane. He's never used the back space key or the arrow key. Insane people do not have writer's block. The whole thing just goes on to describe, just very plain, it's like, yeah, and then they have to
Starting point is 00:24:33 screw the customers for the company to survive. And you're like, oh boy. He doesn't do any editing. They have to take part in a customer sex party. Yeah. A thing we've all heard of. I read a bunch of his stuff and it's like very, very, well, I guess the main thing is his books are 26 pages long.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Between 26 and like 55 pages. That makes sense. I think. That's long for a like college essay. And he is so cocky in his like, his autobiography and stuff. Like, I mean, I just feel like he should mention that his books are like three sentences long yeah that's not that's cheating i mean i'm pretty fucking prolific man with my two paragraph books i've been working on for okay hey he doesn't
Starting point is 00:25:17 decide when the book ends the book decides when all right that's and he's just there he hits print and yeah and he also describes like driving like i the print. And he also describes driving. I read a part where he just describes driving way too much. He says, I got in the car, and then I started the car, and I drove the car, and then I went to this other place, and then I stopped the car and got out of the car. He's real focused on details you don't want. It's also interesting, too, on Goodreads. Most of his books have five stars with like i would say 90 all have just four reviews it's like exactly four accounts that he just used to be like five
Starting point is 00:25:53 five five five yeah like i don't know i want i just think it'd be fun to get the audience like going on unnaming like alternate r richard books like you know i just feel like you know the double decker turtle the the uh the uh double decker turtle party uh nude town is one um new town yeah new town i just i'm trying to think of a good one you know like the the complicated badger or the the the the um involuntary badger oh um you know toy whores is one of them uh he has another series called vix the marine and vix the force leader i can only imagine what that's like i mean hey mom it's uh it's our uh yeah just calling you back because i i checked my goodreads page again and i noticed that big cock still has three three five star reviews there i'm still waiting on the fourth from you uh just you don't even have to read it mom i gave you the synopsis in painstaking just click that hyperlink i email
Starting point is 00:26:52 you and dad and just do the five stars okay yeah so anyway i just think people should be aware of r richard and his work and uh you know his autobiographies he says i've i've published 44 novels and over 150 short stories. I spent my early years in the part of Los Angeles known as South Central. I was known as White Boy, which was sufficient to identify me in that place. I'm a skilled kung fu player using a system that I learned from a Korean I knew only as Pac. It would be easier to tell you the places that Pac wasn't wanted by the police rather
Starting point is 00:27:24 than the places where he was wanted by the police. See, and that's what in that sentence you get an idea. He repeats himself like, you know, I mean, that that rules actually. Oh, man, I found one of our Richard sock puppet accounts that he uses to big up his ratings. All right. Never mind. I'm going. You guys would know you guys would know how to handle this better than me.
Starting point is 00:27:43 I didn't. I don't have the technical ability to exploit R. Richard. I know. Yeah. Chris, you put me on the scent now. Yeah, good. Okay. That's what I was hoping.
Starting point is 00:27:53 I mean, I hope it wasn't. Sandor has 244 reviews. All of them are R. Richard books. I just feel like you should know. Yeah, you should know. Sandor, wasn't that one of the names in one of the titles of his book yeah like planet sandor or something yeah and then maybe they're just a big fan you know i mean well it's funny his his review of big cock is him just doing like the three paragraph version of the description written by r richard like the review by sandor of big cock
Starting point is 00:28:22 it says jim mack is growing up with a very large cock this is just summarized yeah like so yeah it's real dry it's real dry and his pants were big his pants were big to accommodate and then you know i love the last part it says when the staff then screws up jim arranges a party where the wives of the staff get some nude revenge last sentence a lot more plot than you might think. See, that's the gold. No one's ever written that down. Yeah, hold the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:28:52 No one's ever written that down. A lot more plot. A lot more plot than you might think. I go for the most plot per minute. That's what I'm looking for. Yeah, where's your next book? Big Plot, R. Richard. We want to see that one.
Starting point is 00:29:09 That's my fucking, that's my next book? Big Plot, R. Richard. We want to see that one. That's my latest internet search. R. Richard. Yeah, good luck. Just enjoy it. I don't know. Someone do a book report on Second Chance King of Goleman. Yeah, we might have to do a R. Richard book club at some point. I like it. I the secret life of wanda wilson right there's more too there's way more his writing style may be dry but he's a wet boy that's actually from his autobiography yes yeah and his writing style is summed up in that sentence where he says like you it'd be easier to describe the places that he is not wanted than the places that he is also wanted or whatever he's just he's just very
Starting point is 00:29:46 clunky yeah that bio like this guy is a path i mean such a pathological liar too there's something there's so much more going on here because like you said like that bio that you read chris or he's like yeah i grew up in the part of los angeles known as the south central yeah he's out of his fucking mind i think he's a guy who like lives in his mom's house certainly and he's not a skilled kung fu player because nobody is a skilled kung fu player has ever said that because you would get knocked out if you said that to another oh yeah well i knew him this guy this korean who trained me his name was pack yeah and and it and it would be easier to tell you the places that pack wasn't wanted by the police rather than the places where he was wanted by the police.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I mean, paint the picture. Yeah. In case you don't think I'm real. So anyway, R. Richard, man. Yeah. All right. Well, let's take a quick break. That's been Search History.
Starting point is 00:30:38 We'll be back with Overrated, Underrated, and maybe one of the stories. We'll see. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts,
Starting point is 00:31:29 the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden.
Starting point is 00:31:54 We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions, like how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do. Like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network,
Starting point is 00:33:46 iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And Chris, we do like to ask our guests, especially you, what is something you think is overrated? Overrated, I'm going to say Los Angeles. Go on. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:12 I see there's a lot of trouble. That's what I'm talking about. I've got my dukes up. I mean, the listeners can't see it. Do you really feel like you're defending Los Angeles? No, not at all. Los Angeles is so big. Can you feel like you could defend part of it?
Starting point is 00:34:24 But you can't defend the whole thing. Yeah. But I'm just trying to cause a little trouble because I'm back in M-Town, Madison, Tennessee. M-Town, as it's known. Up the street from Nashville. I'm in the real Nashville. Hell yeah, Maddie. It's like I was thinking about ways to describe where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Madison is like an informal gathering of the juggalos oh or okay broke burbank oh okay that's uh that paints a picture it's mostly vape stores it's almost all vape i'd prefer to be at an informal juggalo gathering than any version of burbank to be honest yeah it's better it's better than burbank like did you say that because like it is endearing because when you said informal gathering the juggalos i'm like all right whoa whoa like let's pull up but what are you a juggalo hell yeah bro great malenko are you serious i am serious i don't i didn't know oh yeah yeah man i've been fucking with them for for a minute oh that's cool that's cool no i'm not that's really cool no i've i just remember watching that documentary american juggalo when it came out and like when you know the gathering of the juggalos was like oh man you
Starting point is 00:35:34 know kind of wild shit goes on i'm like oh these people are just fans of a thing and they get fucked up so yeah this is like that madison tenn is like that. It's vape stores and people looking for groceries. Okay. And that's what happens. It's like there's a lot of trouble in the parking lots of these vape stores because people don't want to vape, but they're being forced to vape because there's no food available. And everybody's dressed up like they just came from a swingers party
Starting point is 00:35:59 or a Craigslist random encounter. I mean, it's really, you see a woman that's dressed like slash right from guns and roses right interacting with some hipster who moved here because they can't afford the rent because their dad won't give them any more money or something so they had to move to like the they couldn't live in east nashville anymore so they moved up the street you know and so there's like hipsters interacting with people who want to murder hipsters, you know? I love that. It's really, and everything's just, everybody's wearing the craziest clothes. It kind of makes me happy.
Starting point is 00:36:32 You know, it kind of makes me happy because everybody in Los Angeles wears those fucking short pants, those big white sneakers and the fucking knit hat. And everybody here wears like whatever the fuck they found on the ground or you know whatever they found at the at you know what i mean like they'll wear velvet hot pants with a with a with a halter tie i don't even know what clothes are i can't describe hey man don't say that i'll slide yourself off used to style the live home shopping network porn specials man you know something about garments i forgot to tell you one the one of the porn stars asked me what i was doing that night and i totally chickened out because i was just like such a i could have dated it's intimidating i get it you know what i mean it was such a bad i still it still haunts me like when
Starting point is 00:37:12 i'm asleep like trying to get to sleep i know and for the listeners out there this is the 17th time we've had to edit out that mention from chris about the porn star who asked him what he's doing later we apologize that one got through but hey it's all right it's all right man madison is also like right across from my the end of my street is uh smeraldo's which is a closed down club that johnny cash used to drink at which is just this just a dump you know it's like a dumpy 1970s place that he would go it's mentioned in his autobiography but it's just there it's just a shell of itself and i've been thinking about going down there and trying to metal detect or see if he dropped anything see if johnny cash dropped any stuff there wait so it is closed down oh yeah and i can just think about getting in there and maybe you know just tearing up the carpet and seeing if anybody left pocket watches or whatever
Starting point is 00:38:00 they make sure you have a gopro on and put on a youtube channel yeah because back then you know yeah i'll have to wait in line though of course people be like there's like four other vloggers ahead of me hey guys here at smeraldo's hey guys here's the smeraldo's you can actually hear the other people recording in the background totally and that happens you know what's up treasure family it's your boy here at smeraldo's now this is a legendary light knife light scene in nashville back in the day yeah Yeah. Yeah. Like, I got to wait. I got to wait to look. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:27 And then somebody plants a doll. You know, I talk about that. Yeah, right. Like, vloggers plant a doll. Like, oh, shit. There's a weird doll in here. You saw it. Just sitting in the middle of a place.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Dude, I saw you pull that out of your fucking fanny pack. I hear a ghost in the background. I saw you pull that fucking creepy doll out. Haunted dolls is big business on the internet. So i've seen that that's scary that's not good i mean people have that i've seen that on the internet yeah those people have like a haunted doll collection and they sit at their house with a bunch of dolls and that's not good it's called kicking it with the homies if your neighbor's doing that i mean imagine behind a drawn curtain what's going on especially up here in madison madison tennessee i'm trying to get it as a major player now as a town like
Starting point is 00:39:09 it's not i'm gonna bring it m town yeah like it's a place to go if you want to vape hell yeah madison most foul smoke mountain there's a place called smoke mountain right near me i mean that rules what is it a vape a vape yeah okay it's like barbecue plate oh no no no but it's kind of incredible if you want to get food up here you might as well fucking forget it i mean you know you can have a burger king or a vape hey what about roma pizza and pasta right there by the walmart are you looking at your fuck are you looking at are you prowling yeah oh yeah oh yeah yeah there's this there's a funny thing there are some la looking people here yeah um like who wear that knit knit cap and those short pants and stuff how's wits barbecue across from smoke mountain when you say short pants are you just talking about shorts no no
Starting point is 00:39:56 i'm talking about short pants you know what i'm talking about those trust fund ladies who wear the freaking giant white sneakers and the freaking short, the pants that show their ankles, like, you know, like they wear socks. Yeah, you like a crop pant with like the big old chunky Balenciaga sneakers. Yeah, like a big sweatshirt or something. It's called high low, bro. It's called high low. High fashion with some lowbrow pieces, dude.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Just like the juxtaposition of the two, you know what I mean? Right, whatever. But yes, they might say that. They might say that. I don't know if you look up the lady who did the um the there's a boomtown rat song called i don't like mondays that's about a woman who shot a bunch of people coming out of school and uh she had that look going way before all these ladies did so if you want to look at uh where that knit cap short pants big white sneakers look came from. It came straight out of the shooter. I think her name's Brenda
Starting point is 00:40:46 or something or other. So anyway, that's Los Angeles is people from Kansas dressing up like that, whatever it is. That's what LA is and that's why I'm feeling free now to put down LA because I left. You're out of here. I might be back though. So I got to be little. Plus I'm going to come
Starting point is 00:41:01 back. We'll be waiting for you, asshole. I'll come back. i'll come back i'll come back also and just pretend i never left because i never saw anybody when i was there anyway nobody knows you left in la oh you've been busy and you're just like i've been busy oh yeah what have you been doing none of your business a lot of big time shit judd apatow judd apatow how about that saying his name what about that where'd you go chris i don't know a little name called judd apatow judd apatow how'd he get that we didn't even say he got anything just said his name three times
Starting point is 00:41:37 crofton's kicking ass i was wondering where crofton was he must be he was kicking ass judd apatow fuck yeah so anyway while all you guys are all enjoying your fake it till you make it i'm down here where you make it till you fake it there you go that's right in all your vitamins from fruit flavored vape card madison tennessee where you vape whether you like it or not it's just required yeah oh man right. Let's take one more break. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts.
Starting point is 00:43:22 When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice.
Starting point is 00:43:42 And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote, what is it, like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:44:16 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:44:36 I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:44:55 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And Chris, we do like to ask our guests what something
Starting point is 00:45:25 you think is underrated underrated here we go today is today is underrated is uh i saw this movie last night i don't know if it's underrated or not but uh that movie uh it's called like the blood and the madness or something like that uh it's a documentary about the Sackler family and Nan Golden, the photographer. And I was not ready for what a great movie that was. All the Beauty and the Bloodshed? Yes. Okay. That movie is a crusher of a movie.
Starting point is 00:45:57 It's not just about the Sackler family. It's about Nan Golden. Ostensibly, it's about a documentary by Laura Poitras, who did, I forget. She's done a couple, some big things. it's just a beautiful movie I recommend it but I guess what I would say is like I forget this is overrated or underrated but underrated is a is going through your childhood and like dealing with if you had a difficult childhood like if your household dynamic was was rough like if you're uh a lot of the movie is about her appraising her relationship with her parents and in a way that's really her and her
Starting point is 00:46:32 parents are still alive so she pretty fearlessly and i don't think she had a choice because her upbringing was so difficult but it was not this is the thing it was like in a suburb with parents that it was not like she was not like abused physically but she basically comes right out and say my parents were not ready to have kids they should not have had kids because she doesn't and nan golden i don't know there's something about the way she speaks it's very authoritative like she what you really know that uh my parents should not have had kids right you know and she's not kidding you know what i mean like and and i she said they were kids themselves and i i feel like that about my parents and i you know they're gonna probably hear the show and i just i think it's the truth i mean back then kids married other kids they had
Starting point is 00:47:13 kids because they were supposed to and and and some really crazy shit ensued because they did not know how to parent and so we have a whole generation of people that have had this kind of parenting where the parents were just kids. So they just made everything about themselves in a way. So the kids were just there as like little dolls or, you know, a little just set dressing for 1950s or 1960s or 1970s nuclear family values. And the damage that that does to the kid because you grow up feeling like you're a fucking side end table or something or you're a lamp and then you grow up and try and have a relationship or something and you realize that you don't know what your own feelings mean because you never had a space for them as a kid so as a kid like in my home my parents argued so much that i had no i just kept
Starting point is 00:47:59 quiet i mean i just kept quiet and tried to stay out of the way i hid in my room i i held myself physically i mean i when i've talked to my therapist i even get deep enough into like i would hold myself in physical positions to try and make them stop arguing like you turn yourself into like a almost like a totem or a or a an object to try to make the yelling stop but you can't do it because you're a child so because parents back then didn't realize children were like not just miniature adults right they didn't know that they were like could get impacted like physiologically by all this stress so you know you grow up and then you turned your feelings off at some point as a kid and then when you try and turn them back on they're the thing you're the least familiar with
Starting point is 00:48:39 and they're pretty much the most important thing you need to know like if you want to have friends and and relationships like your self-worth is it's very difficult for you to determine because you know it's like you you've been you've been sort of in a way in that atmosphere devalued or something because you have to like just you're just treated like you're something in the room that that is not important or something yeah it's like or that or yeah or whatever you have to say isn't important and that is like that can play a huge part yes ignoring your own emotional so when you finally get out of the house and you try and speak on a date or something you realize oh i think i'm a piece of
Starting point is 00:49:12 shit like i have no self-worth because i just i just never have had that reflected back at me like uh so anyway this movie addresses that in a huge way because her parents were so obsessed with appearances that her sister was a lesbian, and they put her in a mental hospital. Jesus. And the mental hospital report, and I don't want to give too much away, but just because it is like a very interesting movie. It's got a lot going on. It's also about the Sacklers and the opioid crisis
Starting point is 00:49:39 because Nan Golden got addicted to OxyContin. But it's kind of about holding her parents accountable, and it's kind of about holding the Sacklers accountable, and keeping up appearances in museums with the Sackler name, and them trying to get them to take the Sackler name down, and museums being very uncomfortable with that because they are worried about the perception, just the way her parents were worried about their perception.
Starting point is 00:50:00 I mean, it's all very skillful. Anyway, I recommend it. I cried my head off. And me and my brother talked for an hour and a half afterward I mean, it's all like very skillful. Anyway, I recommend it. I cried my head off. Yeah. And me and my brother talked for an hour and a half afterward about just like the whole growing up, you know. And I really don't mean to be harsh on my parents. I really don't. They were just following the rules.
Starting point is 00:50:21 You know, the rules were you get married and then you have kids or else you're a freak. Right. You know, and it doesn't matter if you're not grown up enough to do that. You just do it. And it just leads to a lot of trouble. And, you know, it's still going on. Anyway, that's it. That's my, that's my, now you can, now I do a good job.
Starting point is 00:50:37 You did a great job. I didn't take over the damn. What about Big Cock by R. Richard, though? Well, there's that, too. You can also just, like, forget about your childhood and read about Big Cockcks yeah no but i mean it's interesting too man because i remember so much like my parents talking about the cycles that they were trying to break like just as adults i remember like as i got older and like talking to my dad and having like more adult conversations with him talking about the pressures of like growing up in like the 60s when people are just like i don't know what the fuck mental health is like look i just fought in a war i'm black the
Starting point is 00:51:11 world is fucked up we're trying to make the best we can and so many things that get absorbed by like like you know people of my grandparents age their kids it's interesting to see how much how much self-awareness it really fucking takes to be able to be like, fuck, I could do this breathlessly and keep these sort of cycles going. Or you need some level of self-awareness to know like, oh, am I doing this thing where I'm completely disregarding my child because they're a child and what do they know because this is just how things should be in a house, et cetera, et cetera. So it's like, it's interesting to just see like how,
Starting point is 00:51:46 even now, like a documentary like this, or a lot more media now is about kind of looking at our parents and kind of like having a reckoning with that. And I think this is obviously in a much more like clear eyed documentary way versus like a lot of the narrative stuff that's come out the last year and a half. Well,
Starting point is 00:52:01 how having to do it also, while you don't want to disown your parents and you want to love your parents like you know you where you can forgive them but you also can't on some level interact with them in that old way because it makes you feel like kid you know it's like i just when i'm around my parents they are similar to the way they used to be so i start feeling like that trauma because i feel like i'm eight years old again you know and i feel like i'm because i mean the idea of asking your kid, how do you feel? That's the thing that was missing from that entire equation. And so when the parents grew up and had kids,
Starting point is 00:52:32 they also didn't ever have that question asked to them. So the dad was still trying to figure out how he felt about his kids and stuff. I mean, he just didn't have the language. It's like a learned, I think we're making progress. Anyway, I recommend this movie very highly. I don't know know it's like a learned i think we're making progress anyway i recommend this movie very highly i don't know if it's underrated or not but go see the what's it called again all the beauty and the blood that's it that's a hard one to remember it's a good it's a good title though it's a good name for our richard yeah i don't know if he's quite up to
Starting point is 00:52:59 a title like that but no he would he would what would he call it what would he call that movie all the beauty and the bloodshed he would call it like it would be called like it would be called like pain pills and naked parents or something like that like something like 20 worse than that yeah i had heard about that because it's on a lot of top 10 lists which actually ties right into kind of one of our stories the top gun maverick getting nominated for the Golden Globes. And, you know, the right is claiming that as like,
Starting point is 00:53:27 finally, America's ready to like movies that are cool and portray the military as sexy. And this past weekend, A.O. Scott
Starting point is 00:53:40 from the New York Times published his top 10 movies of the year. And all the beauty in the bloodshed was number nine. But he was bombarded by trolls because a self-described movie podcaster criticized his list for not including Maverick. And Elon Musk hopped in and was like, that's because the New York Times has gone full woke. So that's the thing that's happening like i'm seeing it with people who
Starting point is 00:54:05 are fans of everything everywhere all at once are like berating people who don't put it on the list and people are like i've never even heard of so that same podcaster devoted a whole episode of their show to criticizing a.o scott's list of movies claiming that no one had ever seen any of them by the way his number one was nope uh and also just like spent all the time talking about how like no one had heard of any of these movies and they're a movie podcaster like spending an hour bragging about all the acclaimed movies you've never heard yeah like it's a weird look for a movie podcaster but i don't know yeah just if there's a list of movies that you don't know and people are saying are good there's probably a pretty good chance that you're gonna find some
Starting point is 00:54:52 really compelling shit on there and and maybe don't just assume automatically that everything that you saw that year have must be way better than that is it that they don't like that it was left out of the top films are they more invested in the narrative that top gun is the best film of the year because pro-military shit like this is number one you know what i mean like yeah it's not like saying like well you know i feel like this that and the other i feel like it's almost like somebody who's upset that their top 10 list isn't reinforcing like this broader culture war message of like, dude, shit from the eighties is still fucking cool. Including our takes on policy and politicians.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Right. Yeah. I think big picture, they want the middle class back, you know, somehow top gun represents some like for them, like America, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:38 like that's America. That's what America is about is like, everybody has a job and they're a pilot. Right. You know what I mean? That's what I remember about america everybody was a pilot and had a brand new plane and a plane in every money in their pocket did karaoke and and had a hot girlfriend that's what america was i'm a tireless new america america did have a middle class in the 80s everybody got a plane i remember when i was growing up y'all everybody got a plane that nice hair everybody had nice
Starting point is 00:56:04 hairdo and sunglasses. Motorcycles were faster than fighter jets. Everyone was white and everybody was flying around in planes when I grew up. I miss that. That's what I want to see in movies. I want to see movies about when America had more planes in it. Yeah. And fast people and nice people and good people that worked hard and had big heads, nice hairdos.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Yeah. When Tom Cruise was everybody. I remember when I was growing up, everybody looked like Tom Cruise. Everybody. And had a plane and it went fast and they were strong and fast and good and drank beer and didn't have any trouble about it. Sliding around houses on the wood floors in our underwear. And they still woke up early. They still went to work even though they had a hangoverover and they never talked to their kids or their wife or anything
Starting point is 00:56:48 but that's the way it was that's how it worked and there's no such thing as ptsd and top gun is bringing back jobs to america if every movie is a woke movie then we're not gonna have as many jobs in this country we need more movies about jobs facts what's their love is it just that it's all war like yay yay yay bomb them yeah well that it's all war? Like, yay, yay, yay, bomb them. Well, but it's interesting, right? Because, so, a Breitbart columnist, like, at the time said, Top Gun Maverick is a masculine, pro-American, stridently non-woke blockbuster. The movie actually did, like, feature a more diverse cast than the original.
Starting point is 00:57:23 And if the movie bombed like breitbart definitely would have been like this is why it bombed because they had the more diverse cast so you know like they did with light year for instance um people need real like they've gone crazy and they think that movies can like they think movies can like bring back the middle class or something like we had enough movies about like jobs or something you or something. We had enough movies about jobs or something. If we had more movies that showed people acting normal like a regular person back in the 1950s like we all did, then people would stop getting these crazy ideas and they would have jobs again at the factories. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Because there's no major party that actually does anything that affects change. This is the level that it gets fought at is in conversations about. Yeah, people have gone fucking crazy. They've gone fucking crazy because the middle class has gone away. And that just has led to all kinds of trouble because, you know, I mean i i don't want to go off about it but but uh just that i feel like that's what people are going crazy and they think things that have nothing to do with why they're unhappy can fix why they're unhappy yeah like if the movies were just you know this way then everything would be fine and i would be able to get a girlfriend without being
Starting point is 00:58:40 nice just the way you used to be able to i wouldn't be an incel if there are more movies about plane drivers yeah everybody should drive a plane and have a nice hairdo and then i can have a girlfriend i mean it's nutty shit like nutty like this woke movie is taking away my opportunity to get laid as a total piece of shit well it's this other thing too where they think that the decisions made by like 15 people on the west side of la is like what's determining like the course of like humanity in our culture like i get it you're like see this thing that did well aligns a little bit more with my like rah-rah jingoistic bullshit that i'm into but then to be like and because that's there we're winning that fight when the real
Starting point is 00:59:23 reason you're looking at people like you know move into the ideologies they are it's not because of the fucking movies because of what their lived experiences are and i get yeah like to everyone's point it's like yeah but it's easier to be like yeah yeah top gun top gun top gun yeah we just need more top guns we had just movies like the passion of the christ and top gun on the top 10 list yeah everyone would have a job and two cars and fucking health insurance like they used to actually chris i'll go one better no one would even need health insurance because they would be imbued with the message of christ's love that's how i see us getting around this whole health insurance conundrum honestly
Starting point is 00:59:59 also every fucking clunky dude who's never been seen by his parents who doesn't know how to ask a girl out because he's got no self-worth because he was treated like a lamp by his goddamn religious parents or whatever he doesn't know how to get on a date anymore because no movies are telling him how to do it you know how many fucking people must have actually reenacted that you've lost that love and feeling seen from fucking top gun and successfully seduce someone because they saw it in a movie like how many people probably got wives and and husbands out of doing things they saw in movies i remember like the underwear scene the yeah oh man i married brad because he impersonated the underwear scene from risky business perfectly we did it on our
Starting point is 01:00:42 wedding day he came out at our wedding and came out of the cake and had underwear on miles might remember from when we worked in the same office but i don't enter a room any other way that's okay chills go up my spine when i hear then then then then personality comes in that movie apparently i didn't know that but yes jack's always sliding into and that if there are no movies to copy like that, how are we going to have a life? No, that's true because yeah, you think of like people who was like,
Starting point is 01:01:09 especially like the kinds of MAGA sort of like charismatic figures. They're the kinds of people who could be like, I can fucking quote every meatballs film. Exactly. If you ask me to. And that used to get me jobs. Yeah. And like,
Starting point is 01:01:21 that made me the funniest fucking person. Now, when I say shit like that, I'm a misogynist. And no one even knows what it is. Right. jobs yeah and like that made me the funniest fucking person now when i say shit like that i'm a misogynist and no one even knows what it is right because everybody's got different streaming services right because the movies are saying that that's not good anymore and i think that's an interesting point is like dudes whose whole personality was based on movies are like well this shit's getting me in trouble and i don't know any other way and i would argue that was
Starting point is 01:01:43 most of america anybody who's ever had a regular job that kept these kind of people occupied so they wouldn't be yelling at some movie reviewer because they didn't know any of the movies was they would be too busy getting laid by impersonating meatballs and now they're like all like i don't know i can't impersonate anything because you know another thing about not being seen as a kid is you don't develop a personality so you develop a pop culture personality and it used to be in the 90s you wanted to get laid you talked about fucking seinfeld everybody watched the same show nobody nobody can get laid anymore who's an idiot yeah you're like i don't have all the streaming services if we had every movie was
Starting point is 01:02:19 top gun i could impersonate that movie and then i can get laid and then I can have a life. But now, woke people have made it so I gotta know stuff. And have a personality. One conservative TV host claimed that back in June, specifically because the box office success of Maverick had happened, that that was going to
Starting point is 01:02:39 translate into votes for the Republicans in the upcoming midterm election. People are so fucking stupid yeah it's insane we're fucked when like people who are like whose takes are actually being like considered by like political leadership or like dude that movie did well people will forget that you're taking away human rights and completely ignoring earth death or just like living wages yeah yeah that'll do it top gun's doing well i think they're ready for the uh roe versus wade reversal yeah yeah like
Starting point is 01:03:10 i think i've read the room oh we were wrong oh no oh we were fucking wrong better keep pressing samuel alito probably watches fucking i can't even imagine probably watches fucking the original top gun non-stop he probably watched soul man to prepare to like meet clarence thomas imagine judge alito's sense of humor probably total straight up like you lost that love and feeling like with a salt with a salt shaker and just always close talking people after a dissenting opinion and saying you can still be my wingman exactly yeah like yeah it's way too close yeah and he's in the lunchroom at the fucking supreme court yeah the supreme court
Starting point is 01:03:51 fucking commissary court calf yeah he's like you lost that love and feeling we have fun here don't we folks top gun goose top gun goose am i funny uh you're more of a goose I'm more of a maverick actually I guess I'll take the maverick today I had the goose yesterday I'm talking about the potato come on girl what do you mean I ain't cool highway to the
Starting point is 01:04:19 danger zone what are you so excited about Alito I just overturned Roe vs. Wade. Highway to the fuck? Well, Chris, as always, a true pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Is that the end of the show? Yeah. Holy God, I fucked it up again.
Starting point is 01:04:38 No. We only did one topic. I'm in trouble. We did so much more than that. Okay, I'm in trouble we did so much more than that so okay i'm in trouble we talked about parenting the fucking relics of 80s films and explaining the situation we're in today okay who the fuck r richard is chris come on now baby you introduced us to r richard i'm so glad to be on the show again i always am i'm not kidding uh i really uh i'm grateful for you guys
Starting point is 01:05:03 and um wish you continued success i don't know why i for you guys and um wish you continued success i don't know why i said that part but i wish you continued success well that's just straight cold brew um everybody when i leave a room i wish you all continued success oh that's that fucking cold brew guy um you can find me at the crofton show on twitter i've been on there less lately just because i've been uh have more jobs to do. There you go. But I'll be doing the poetry window on there. And Instagram, at the Crofton Show as well.
Starting point is 01:05:31 And most importantly, go see my show. I'm playing live in Chattanooga this Thursday, the 15th. I'm reading from a book. I'm playing music. I'm doing stand-up. All the same show, like the Chris Crofton Variety Hour. And that's in Chattanooga this Thursday night at Lomaine. The bar is called Lomaine.
Starting point is 01:05:52 And a great comedian named Sam Severin is opening up for me. And then December 30th in Nashville, I'm also doing a show at the Five Spot here in town. And go listen to our podcast. And I have a new podcast behind the paywall on patreon for three bucks a month you can listen to cold brew got me listening where i introduce you to artists that i love and i've done six episodes on that and i've uh the most recent ones about john denver amazing and is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying oh yeah i did that again i always fuck that up you guys go first okay miles how about you where can people find you with all twitter and instagram and you know
Starting point is 01:06:31 other i think hot or was it hive social and the master master master master yeah are you on master don no we're gonna call it master don though just so you know officially on this show it's called master don uh yeah at miles of gray you want to hear basketball well guess what you can check jack and i out on our basketball podcast miles and jack got mad boosties okay that's every thursdays talking nba uh and then also if you want to hear me talk 90 day fiance check my other podcast out with Sophia Alexandra for 20 Day Fiance. And a tweet that I like, man, obviously I like everything that's talking about Elon Musk just getting fucking booed to hell at the Chase Center. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:17 But I'll just like this tweet, which is just very straightforward, an article about that event. It's from Dr. Angela Rasmussen at Angie underscore Rasmussen tweeted, new Twitter might be hardcore, but it's from dr angela rasmussen at angie underscore rasmussen tweeted new twitter might be hardcore but it's got nothing on reality quote this is from the schismode album the booing got louder as musk wandered around on stage with a microphone in hand musk started pacing and waving clearly unsure what to do about such a negative reaction it's worth watching the video straight into me veins he deserves every fucking bit of it although it's not his fault because he shouldn't exist he should be taxed out of existence yeah yeah he should be a regular guy who just wants to be best friends with dave
Starting point is 01:07:55 chapelle and also dave chapelle my god what a self-owned that dude he was doing budalingus on elon musk for like five minutes like in this wow look who i brought up it was whoo all kinds of stink yeah dave chapelle brought out elon musk for like the last eight ten minutes of his show at the in san francisco and he got booed to the abs just off the earth and they both didn't know what to do like even dave chapelle was like i thought my cred would at least protect him and everyone's like nah fuck all of you jesus yeah at grill pill underscore tweeted babe you want to come over and read too far into each other's tone you do why'd you say it like that and then z emerson world of echo tweeted lou reed voice heroin It's we're at voice.
Starting point is 01:08:45 My wife, Lou Reed voice and Bon Jovi voice. It's my life. Um, I enjoyed that. Uh, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at daily zeitgeist.
Starting point is 01:08:59 We're at the daily zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where you can find our episodes and our footnotes. But before we get to the music recommendation, Chris, did you find a tweet you've been enjoying? I found a tweet, but it's my tweet. Oh, that's perfect. So it's, attention, red hot chili peppers,
Starting point is 01:09:19 I just thought of this lyric, and you can have it. I put a clam in the file cabinet. I'll put the clam in the file cabinet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The first one I ever put up was I hit a dolphin with a yardstick. So there's a lot of, if you like Red Hot Chili Peppers, that's what I do. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Miles, how about a song is there a song put the clam in the filing cabinet wow i put the clam in the park as i go through the shells of my personal life of dwight eisenhower another one was was Dwight Eisenhower with a toucan on his shoulder. And then I see Dwight Eisen. I can't even do it. With a toucan on his shoulder. Okay. I got a toucan
Starting point is 01:10:17 on your shoulder. What song are we going to do? Oh, I found this. I heard this wild mashup on the radio on KCRw that was mashing up portis head with griselda and it's misterons mashed with dr birds and i could only find this on youtube so search cut so c-u-t-s-o it's like this dj who does these mashups and search for mr birds m-y-s-t-e-r-E-R-B-I-R-D-S. Mr. Byrds.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Because it's obviously a combination of those two. This kind of a really... It's not the most complex mashup, but it's nice to see how the two instrumentals work together. So this is Mr. Byrds by Cutso. Amazing. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio.
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