The Daily Zeitgeist - CRT Fears = Jan 6 Fears 9.17.21

Episode Date: September 17, 2021

In episode 990, Jack and Miles are joined by the host of the Sparkleside Chats with Magical Girl Ayu podcast Ayumi Shinozaki to discuss how critical race theory fears are the same as Jan 6 fears, ​���the Murdough family murder mystery, TUCKER CARLSON IS A JOURNALIST! BALLGATE Continues, Divorce the new Fall Trend? and more!FOOTNOTES: CRT Fears the same as Jan 6 fears it turns out… The Murdaugh Family Saga Is Wild TUCKER CARLSON IS A JOURNALIST! BALLGATE Continues… Divorce the new Fall Trend? Ayumi’s Print Shop LISTEN: Deb Never “Funky” Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 202, episode 5 of Dirt Daily Psych- Yeah! The production of iHeart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It is Friday, September 17th. Friday! 2021. TGIF. Am I right? Oh, yeah. My name is...

Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. And so I wake in the morning and I step outside and I take a deep breath and I get real high and I scream from the top of my lungs. Ted Cruz ate my son. That is courtesy of Lex Lubey. That is a song.

He had a couple of verses. Apparently, you know, replacing what's going on with Ted Cruz ate my son works perfectly throughout that. Like she's begging for a revolution. She's, you know, cries sometimes when I'm lying in bed because Ted Cruz ate her son. It makes a lot of sense. It could be just like a Weird Al's first, just one word switched out and it totally makes sense. And I'm sure Lindainda perry was thinking about that too probably yeah one of the great songwriters of course well i am thrilled to be

joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray i drink a little pee i can taste the COVID-19. I'm a TVZ host and a man. My cum is worthless and flat. Okay, if you don't know Red Hot Chili Peppers' deep cuts, that's P from One Hot Minute, and that's a song where Flea is singing it, but shout out to Radio on the Discord for, I guess, although it wasn't me, it was mostly Jack and the guests who were talking about their pee determining

or their palate for tasting COVID in urine. But you know what? It's part of the lore, so we will accept it. I can tell you if you got COVID. Just give me a little tip here. P-P-E. Wait, the song is called originally P P but like P-E-A yeah yeah

and does he okay he says I'm a little P I drink a little P I'm a teeny tiny oh my cat's called tiny and her ears go up every time I sing that part yeah it is weirdly cute for red head chili peppers I yeah it's it is weirdly cute for my hedge

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That was by The Brew over on Psy Chord. The Brew. Wow. Okay, Brew Brew. Beautifully performed with heart. Yeah. What's new? How are you?

How are you living? What's new? How's the weather in Japan? I haven't been in three years because of everything. So I have to keep asking you. How is it there? Well, weather wise, it's been a little back and forth. September has not decided whether or not it's going to be fall yet.

It's been a little wild. Otherwise, we're in the middle of some, I guess, political stuff. Because Suga's going to be our current prime minister, who was appointed by Prime Minister Abe last year, when he quit because he couldn't. Well, he said it's for his health, but he said he couldn't really handle all the criticism for his reaction to his reaction to covid basically but now suga is the one who's stepping down so everyone's talking about who the government's going to appoint a new prime minister and maybe we'll get an election it's still not clear right yeah yeah that's uh what is are things about to kick off there too too, like campaigns and things pretty soon? Well, they're saying if there is an election, it'll be in October.

But everything has been like maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe. I don't know why. So they might just put someone up in this position again, just like last year, which is not great because it's already been pretty bad. And it's going to still stay right wing. because it's already been pretty bad and it's going to still stay right wing. We might get our first female prime minister who is basically a fusion of Margaret Thatcher and Nancy Reagan. Oh, I'd love to see that.

Yeah. I'd love to see that. Yeah, especially in a changing world right now. We need more people who want to conserve the old way. It's a terrible, terrible fucking recipe. Pretend it's 80s. That'll work. I mean, that's what COVID deniers want to do.

Like, it's 2018. There you go. It's got to keep up. I know it's tough. I know things are moving quick. But that's the challenge of living in this era. And you guys were talking before we started recording, you're both sipping on the same beverage.

Mugi cha. Yeah. Mugi cha. Yeah, mugi cha. Barley tea. Barley tea. But yeah, mugi, that barley tea is so easy to make. You can just throw your tea bag in your little pitcher or whatever

for a couple hours, then it's just gold. And it's very healthy. And then you put a bunch of ice in it and just slam it no i mean i keep it in my refrigerator so it comes out cold you know what i mean okay but it's it's also it's got health benefits you know antioxidants and vitamins it's good for your digestion and a bunch of caffeine right that'll not just fucking fuel you just get none of that sorry jack why is it so popular bro wait so what does it do wait like so what does it do for me like how does it take me out of self so that i just don't feel anything

no for me it just i think of like being in japan because this is something that was always in the refrigerator at like any of my family members houses especially in the summer so when the weather's warm i love to bust out that mugicha and i i tell people if you like something that's like water it's not there's no sugar or anything like that it's not acidic you know just have a little of that you know yeah good for you it's almost like a more gentle water like because it the barley taste is like so subtle that it almost replaces like any aftertaste that water might have yeah no for sure it's really yeah yeah definitely all right well i mean we're gonna get to know you

a little bit better in a moment first a couple of things we're talking about we're gonna talk about how uh the fears around critical race theory and the fears around uh drove people to storm the Capitol, it turns out they overlap. And we'll talk about how scientists came to that conclusion. We're going to talk about, we don't usually go too deep on true crime on this show, but there is this wild saga that is happening in South Carolina with a family called the Murdaugh family that I just want to kind of run through and talk about it because I think it reveals things or at least reinforce what we already know about America. We're going to talk about Tucker Carlson

and just the continuing widening ripples, you know, waves caused by Nicki Minaj's tweet about her cousin's friend's balls. And just there are now international implications of that. We're going to remind you that some Democrats are pieces of shit. We're going to talk about the new hot new fall trend, which is divorce. All of that. Plenty more.

But first, I mean, what is something from your search history? So my search history is Home Sweet Home. I was listening to another podcast that was talking about something related to, like, The Wizard of Oz. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You said you listened to another podcast? Nah, fuck that. Let's just stop the tape now you know what drama was justin like we're heading out anna let her know this is uh we try to we can't figure out why anyone would listen to us if they know about other podcasts so we have a strict policy of uh we pretend that

this podcast exists in a world where jack because, it's great news, Jack, because the theory doesn't hold. She knows of other podcasts and still listens. Okay, go on. You've made my day. That's okay. So I was listening to a podcast that was talking about the movie Return to Oz. And so it was making me think about like the Oz universe and stuff. But they were making jokes about the phrase home sweet home.

And it made me realize like oh is that a reference to this story the wizard of oz or is it something else so i had to google it and it's actually from before the wizard of oz books i guess so apparently it's from it's a song that's adapted from an opera from 1823 which Which is super old. And I listened to the song, and actually I realized I had heard the song because in Japanese it's known as Hanyu no Yado, and it was used in the movie

Grave of the Fireflies from Studio Ghibli. But yeah, it was like a super, it was just like a hit song in 1823. And so like in the Wizard of Oz movie, it is also referencing that song. And they actually in, in the wizard of Oz movie, it is also referencing that song. And they actually are using part of the melody,

I think at the very end or something like that. But, well, I never saw a return to Oz. It's, is it, what I just, I just know of it,

but I never seen it. But from what I heard on this podcast, it's sounds like it was really wild but more in line with the wildness of the other oz books okay because there's like the villain of that is a princess mummy who has 31 heads and so she like takes off a head and puts on another head and it's like this is for children but okay right rip my head off in front of these kids let's see how they react i didn't realize perusa bulk from the craft is like the lead in that dorothy what the fuck yeah but she's like very young yeah wow i don't know how it sounds like it's i haven't

watched it yet but it does sound like it is worth watching just to be like how is this a thing but yeah um reading more about it is maybe one till i get into because i never read the the oz books i know i watched the original wizard of oz movie but i don't remember watching it the only reason i know i watched this because i wrote about it in my six-year-old diary but um yeah so it's like it's like one of those franchises that i like never actually checked out. But I'm aware that the idea of it, the vibe from the film, the original film, is very different from, I guess, the whole universe of the books. Right.

If that makes sense. Got you. I'm tuning in just to see Childe Feruza Balk, because I love the craft. Yes, that's valid yeah i vaguely remember like being at a family's house when i was a kid and them having that on and just being fucking terrified of that movie like being like this is a sequel to the wizard of oz yeah there's some very terrifying like monsters like or there's like some things that like have wheels for hands and wheels for feet i don't know right there's a talking chicken there's a whole bunch of stuff it's like huh what yeah yeah directed by uh walter merch i wonder what else he directed

because it is real real creepy shit that like i think i like it affected the fever dreams i had later on in life okay yeah they're all returned to oz adjacent yeah oh no what uh what is something you think is overrated i had a lot of trouble coming up with something today but i think having a reason to dislike something is overrated. It could also apply to liking things, honestly. But I want to focus on disliking because I think that if you are passionate about something and someone else says, I don't like it or it's like it's not my cup of tea. I feel like for many people, the natural reaction is to get upset and be like, why don't you like it? your reaction is to get upset.

Why don't you like it? Also, I think, especially online, with social media, people want to have the fire takes about why something is trash or whatever. For example, I don't like the color orange, and I don't know why. When I look at

the color orange, it just makes me feel negative. I don't know if it's because i have synesthesia or if like something happened to me with something that was orange colored when i was younger but like it just like it just makes me feel sad or kind of bummed out when i look at orange or like red orange but yellow orange is like kind of okay but like i have no reason for this dislike but it is a thing and you know when i talk kids, it's like the same way. It's like, you know, I am a part time teacher and I talk to a lot of kids and it's like, oh, what's your favorite color or whatever?

And like, oh, I like green, I think I black and they never have a reason why. Just like, oh, it makes me happy, you know? Yeah, of course. My favorite color was my favorite color because some older family kid I looked up to, it was favorite color and I was like yep that's my color yeah I like that color too now fucking with it and I still like it and I'm and I look back and I'm like it was all because of just modeling myself after an older kid it was why I like this color my whole life it's so funny favorite colors are such a big deal for kids. That's like they ask everybody, my kids, when they first meet someone, they want to know what their favorite color is. That's adorable. They feel like my son feels kinship with me because we're the only two in our family who have the same favorite color.

And yeah. Treating like favorite color like conversations on the schoolyard was predated like twitter where people were arguing about the mcu you know what i mean like i remember acting like yo this kid likes red yeah yeah yeah he likes red this is stupid why we like blue i like blue he likes blue john likes blue what's going on with you and that i just remember being so incensed when someone didn't like blue yeah and that was again like to your point i mean like i i was too young to be like that doesn't mean i'm stupid because i like blue or they hate blue for a good reason people just like different shit yeah yeah and the same thing applies to media and you know books and so on

like it's just there are a lot of things that i know are like super popular but and i watch them i don't feel anything and it's fine like i don't feel like i have to explain it just like it's not for me that's okay yeah and i'd imagine on that same side of that coin if you hear someone say they don't like a thing you like you're not then sent into some like like debate spiral where you're like well let's let's explain why explain your point here i just know they're an idiot i just know that they're wrong and they're yeah i was just i was uh reading an article actually about there are all these like van gogh exhibits that are going across the country that are just like they they project like a sort of animation of various van gogh paintings like oh yeah like when they do it at amoeba yeah they're doing it at amoeba yeah they basically rent a centrally

located abandoned building and like do this big thing that like has the trappings of a art museum and you know like they give out tote bags so it's like to appeal to the npr set but then like it's really like kind of just i don't know it's not it's not really the same as going to an art museum in any in any respect it's just like going to see a kind of trippy light show type thing it's more on par with like the orchestra or like the light shows that people used to go to in the 70s but somebody was like talking about like there there's a backlash to that and they were just like who gives a shit like honestly like except people enjoy it oh like from the art world or whatever yeah from the art world being like this is taking the place of art people should just go stand in front of paintings but

anyways the writer was talking about how they take their kids their teacher also and they take their kids to art museums and the way that they have introduced the kids to art is they just like take them into a room and they're like okay everybody go stand in front of the painting that you like the most and then you just let them talk about the thing that they responded to about the painting which i immediately wrote down as the thing i have to do with my kids but also like it's just a good way to you know focus on i feel like that's how we should interact with culture in general just like stand in front of the movie you like and then interact with other people who love that movie rather than being feeling like you need to comment on the shit that everybody

else likes. Right. Yeah, definitely. What is something you think is underrated? Hmm. Books and novelizations for non book media, like especially movies and TV shows and so on.

So partly this is like, because when the star wars like third trilogy started they released a whole bunch of new books mostly because they were saying some of the older books were no longer valid or whatever which canon is fine i guess but like right yeah yeah but they released a whole bunch of other books and i like enjoyed a whole bunch of them and they helped me to enjoy the movies even more which is not to say that like if you didn't enjoy the movies that you have to read these books or whatever to like truly get it right but yeah for me because like i love getting more lore and stuff another example is like the descendants disney movies uh on the disney

channel i'm a big fan of those movies and And there was also like an animated series on YouTube for the show or whatever. And then they had to make books that tied these two different canons together. And they did a really good job with that. And I really enjoyed that, even though it's like, you know, a much younger audience or whatever. That's all based off of the expanded universe of The Descendants, the Alexander Payne, George Clooney film, right? Absolutely, yes.

Okay, so you haven't seen it, Jack? But, yeah, so yeah, no, Disney Descendants is about the children of the classic Disney characters. It's actually very interesting. They're very fun. The movies are by Kenny Ortega, who did High School Musical. So they're like super awesome.

Got it. Yeah, I do highly recommend them. But yeah, the books help to kind of like tie things together even more in a way that's really fun. I'm trying to think of a novelization that I've read that's like that. Because I would, I remember like I would grab books that were like just based on movies because I was like, well, it'll be easier. I always had trouble reading fiction when I was a kid. Cause like, I couldn't imagine my imagination for whatever reason limited until I probably started doing drugs or something, but it always helped me to be like, okay, I know what these

characters look like because of other things. Now I can enjoy this versus the ones where i would have to like just i don't know think these things up in my head very very odd time for my imagination i'll say oh absolutely i think i for some reason my father bought the tornado 2 novelization when i was a kid and i loved it wow that's really good that's great i need to read that see like jack you probably would you love like a like reading the novelization of jaws jaws 2 jaws 2 it was one of the first novels that i ever read was the novelization of jaws 2 really yeah yeah yeah and that encourages reading which i think is of course super important like you know that's why they have like all the picture books for like

all kinds of classic characters and stuff now yeah just i think it's really good to like whatever it takes to get kids to read i think is generally good but yeah the other thing for me is also for video games i don't know if it's really the case so much in english originally but at least in japanese there are a lot of novelizations of video games which is great for me because i don't have time to play video games anymore so it's like if i want to revisit a story or if i like a story for a video game but i can't play the video game like maybe it's too difficult or something then i can just read the book and get still get the story right and now you can keep up in conversation now you're like i remember that yeah i remember that level yeah exactly i love the idea of the novelization of terminator too because i just i want to read

in text the terminator hangs up the payphone and looks at him and says you've lost the parents of dead i just want to read that like literary version of that exchange because i can't stop thinking about you've lost the parents of dead Dead ever in my life. Yes, yes. It's a classic line, yeah. Did you read the novelization of Terminator 2 before you watched the film Terminator 2? Oh, gosh. I actually don't remember when I first watched. Like, that's one of those things that, like, because my father was so into the Terminator series,

I cannot remember the distinct time when I first watched it, you know? Right with star wars same with a lot of other stuff from childhood right it's like asking someone do you remember the first time you read the bible or felt god's love it's hard to put your finger on oh man i saw a terminator 2 twice when i was in theaters like and i think i was probably too young to do that but it was blessed yeah eddie furlong he was like he he made music in japan that like only released in japan and my mom like helped do some publicity for him in the early 90s and i got to have like i went to a dinner my mom fucking took me to she didn't have to take me so i could just stare at eddie furlong the whole time and be like oh man you're the coolest kid in town man you hung out with the terminator and you're flannel can't just do that you gotta that's a terrible

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Same same group. They were like reporters found, quote, that the districts hosting some of the most combative debates over diversity inclusion initiatives have have seen a steady increase in students of color attending its schools in Gwinnett County, Georgia. We've been like there are videos coming out of their attending its schools. In Gwinnett County, Georgia, we've, and like, there are videos coming out of there. Parents are screaming. There's been a 52.4% increase in students of color since 1994. Loudoun County, Virginia, where, you know, transgender student rights have been screamed about and, you know, critical race theories have been another contentious point. They've seen a 29.5% increase in that same time period.

So they're just saying, like, the thing that we've always kind of seen in the country, which is demographic changes often kick off very unsettled and often violent periods in our country. If you'll remember Reconstruction, anyone? Like, you know, and the KKK coming out of that and many other things that are

born out of suddenly who are these fucking people here now i remember when america was this other thing and so you know i think a lot of the time that the conservative media was definitely focusing on it because it was just as we thought we're like well this is the thing that is helping them avoid like speaking about joe biden at all or saying anything remotely positive about what's happening, that they really found something that was able to tap into just white fear and their fear of the inversion of racial power in the country. Yeah. And then a political scientist was, I guess, went through demographic data

and found that the same thing was true of the people who were there on January 6th, right? That they were in counties with the most significant declines in non-Hispanic white populations. Yeah. He said those counties most likely to produce insurrectionists. So there's just like so much fear, you know, that this is just the fear of losing status because I'm sure depending on their very rigid view of how America works, if you're not white, then you're in trouble. And so to see things change must create some feeling of the old and lack is coming my way, because that's been the case for others who are not part of the majority demographic. And I just see, like, in general, a lot of fear coming out of conservatives. There's this person I went to school with who like posted on Instagram and

they were they took a picture of like a dumpster that had been like tagged by like a gang and then like a like a random plank of wood next to it that had also been tagged. And they were legitimately they're like, do I need to be worried about this? Like this tagging? Like, oh my God, California is just, is falling apart. I'm so worried. And they said, the next thing for me is I'm getting a concealed carry permit because I will not be a victim because they just saw some graffiti on something. You know, like the, the environment that I think is helping power this so much is just, I mean, hysteria has been everywhere in

the United States, but like specifically as it relates to just seeing any kind of shift in what is happening in your immediate area and taking that as this is some kind of terror. What is happening? It's putting up. We can just see how that's manifesting throughout the country right now. Yeah. They're not being shy about it either. I mean, Tucker Carlson did a whole thing about how the census data was like so alarming because it showed that white populations were shrinking. And, you know, these are these are the exact talking points that white supremacists and white nationalists were using like back i remember like reading up on and even listening to a podcast of a white nationalist during like 2015 2016 as trump was rising and you know it was like well people are saying that like the things he's saying

are like dog whistles so let me see like what they're actually saying about it and it's all about like a cultural replacement and like the white genocide being just you know that like their values and the idea that they are of white supremacy is being challenged yeah it's very frustrating it's like i mean like y'all said it's this has happened so many times it's very frustrating. It's like, I mean, like y'all said, it's, this has happened so many times. It's extremely predictable. This point is extremely like, water is wet. It's kind of news. But yeah, it's, it's just, it's so frustrating. Like, you understand, like, we could because we've seen it before, you know exactly what the mindset is. But it's like, how do we get people out of it? You know? what the mindset is but it's like how do we get people out of it you know yeah yeah and i think it's just merely it's like anything when people talk about how they've been brought back from like extremism or whatever it's merely because they were never interacting with the people that they hated exactly and never would even give themselves the opportunity for that and it wasn't until those interactions too that sometimes people begin to change now not everyone has the same sort of

flexibility of mind but it seems like that's the one common thing is yeah people are you know they stay in their bubbles and that makes it much easier to obscure what you know you believe the reality of another group to be but yeah as you said not surprising um and yeah i don't know i don't know what to say to them because i'm sure in their mind they see like they're like, look at the white population shrinking. Like in their mind, do they think it's like it's because horrible things are happening or that just other people are here also having, you know, procreating with people who are of different ethnicities and we're just becoming more diverse rather than this? I think they have to frame it as the walls are closing in on us and we have to fight. We have to fight it back.

Yep. All right. Well, speaking of the South, white supremacy and not surprising, I want to talk about the story that is starting to hit people's radars because the this guy, alex murdaugh was just arrested um the headline on buzzfeed news is police arrested the south carolina lawyer who said who they said planned his own killing for an insurance payout which is taking him completely at his word and like the backstory is so wild so let me just kind of go through like that that's his alibi is that he hired somebody to kill him that's best case scenario for him so wait i what do you mean like in that he was like hey man i'll you'll just choke me out or like you're gonna give me a lethal injection like cav Kevorkian assisted suicide? He got shot in the head, but it was a graze to his head.

And my suspicion, he's claiming it was a botched, he hired somebody to kill him and they just like missed by accident, couldn't like land the plan on the headshot. And he therefore, like, and the reason for it was he wanted to get an insurance payout for his son. I think it's actually, he had the person miss on purpose to try and throw suspicion off of him. And so let, let me just kind of take you back to the beginning of this. So the Murdoch family were a political legal dynasty in South Carolinaolina uh for generations they've basically been like the head lawyers in town including like multi-generational holding down the solicitor

general role uh since the 1920s like they're just like they're entrenched as fuck and you know there are people from local people who are like they're they're the salt of the earth. They're the best people, including Bakari Sellers was like, they're the nicest people in the world. But then other people like one local attorney was like, you don't cross the Murdoch's or you do. If you do cross them, you don't let them find out that it was you because they'll come on down on you hard and they'll come down on you with all that they've got. They have a lot of influence and power and they'll use it against their enemies. So like that's standard rich generational wealth corruption. Right. But so things first started unraveling when the youngest son of the guy who just got arrested for hiring somebody to kill him. of the guy who just got arrested for hiring somebody to kill him. His youngest son crashed their family boat into a bridge pile-on while just hampered. And three of the passengers were thrown into the water,

and the body of one of them was found a week later. And, you know, she had died. It was a pretty white girl, so the media noticed. She had died. It was a pretty white girl. So the media noticed. And there is police dash cam footage of one of the other passengers on the boat, like after immediately after the accident, saying basically that motherfucker should rot in jail and he's not going to get in any trouble at all. They were able to kind of delay and quiet it down for a long time. But then it started kind of bubbling up again. And then in the summer, that son, the one who had crashed the car or crashed the boat, and his mom, the matriarch of the family, were found murdered on their massive hunting property. Both shot to death with different guns. And so that was just like, everyone was like, what the fuck happened? Then cut forward to the patriarch,

the guy who was just arrested of the family, was shot in the head on a country back road while changing a tire. He was only grazed and survived. So it's just been announced now. And because the story, like the smaller, more recent version of the story is so wild, people are just taking this as a given that he claims he hired his drug dealer to shoot him in the head as an assisted suicide bid to get his other son

a big insurance payout. And if you just committed suicide, you know, there's a common belief that if you commit suicide, then the person can't get an insurance payout. Except he's a lawyer, so presumably he would have known that that isn't the truth. He could have committed suicide

and his son still would have gotten the money. So it's also just been announced that he had been embezzling money from the law firm that his name is on, at least a million dollars, and was just fired. And he went into rehab on oxyaddiction. So basically, those are the main public events until I'm going to tell you about two more that are now bubbling up. Two more than this? Yeah, there's more.

bubbling up but yeah two more two more unsolved murders that are now being thrown into question involving the family or suspicious deaths i should say so the the theory of the case that he wants you to believe is someone killed the son and his mom in retribution for the boat manslaughter uh the dad fell apart was already drug addict, decided to kind of off himself via his drug dealer. But his drug dealer was just like a bad shot and it didn't work. The one that I'm suspecting more and more, you'll suspect it if you're kind of suspicious of money, locally powerful, generationally powerful, you know, white families right or just all white families so they had a long running my guess and this is not proven this is just my theory that they had a long running like i can buy my way out of anything history of doing crimes getting away with it

the son had become a liability and as has been rumored the mother was looking to get out of the marriage and blow the whole thing up. So, you know, that's where their murders came from. And then the dad wanted to make himself less of a suspect. So he hired his drug dealer to make it look like someone tried to kill him. And because, I mean, it's hard to shoot someone in the head and not kill them. I mean, unless you're sniping them from 200 fucking yards or something yeah and also they were on a country back road so if he had intended to kill him he like did it's not like he was shooting them running away i mean wouldn't it go down like

being like hey you're my drug dealer man i'm paying you to kill like to kill me right yeah and if you were serious about that you'd be like all right man do it and if it missed you'd be like what the fuck bro can you do it right now it was like all right my bad boom right like it wasn't like oh i'm sorry you know what oh god gotta go actually my other drug users are calling me for a for a drop or something so adding weight to the theory that this is all like part of a massive, like ongoing, like corrupt crime family is that the police are now reopening two deaths that have happened near the family farm. Their housekeeper, who mysteriously died from, quote, falling a few years back, like the who the coroner was like, never were informed of this we never did an autopsy they really swept it under the rug and now they're reopening that because they're like this

like none of this adds up and also a 19 year old young man whose body was found on a country road like by their house and keep in mind their house is like you know hundreds and hundreds of acres of right so it's not it's not like being by their house is like being by 20 other houses right right right by their house and interestingly the police at first thought that he had been shot in the head but later changed the cause of death to hit and run they claim a truck's rear view mirror like basically exploded his head and that's how he was killed so again it just feels like you know conveniently the police kind of looking the other way when uh something incredibly mysterious happens around this family jesus that it's so wild it is so wild yeah i i think it's wild that also like that it's being covered as yeah he uh like he tried to because that is a good story right like that's a good

quick story this guy had like hired someone to kill him so his son could get the like payout and it's also like ties into our understanding like there i think there are movies that use that logic that like all insurance life insurance things like you can't get it if there's suicide where it's like that's you know case by case and the person who would know that and who would know the particulars of his life insurance policy would probably be like a lawyer yeah that's wild when you said oh wait hold on uh the cause of death is falling and you're like that's not good enough like yeah head injury like uh do they have a heart attack and like what what what are we going and

then to switch something from shot shot by someone to smashed by a car. Right. I mean, I think that just reeks. Those things don't happen without someone willfully obscuring things or looking the other way and just being like, yeah, that's good enough for me.

Their 57 year old housekeeper died on February 26, 2018, as a result of the injuries sustained in, quote, trip and fall accident. Wow. She had been a housekeeper for them for 25 years. So he basically was like, look, I'm going to get you guys $500,000 for your trouble to her sons. And was like, so what you have to do is sue me because it happened on one of my properties that I have home insurance on. So you sue me and I will get the payout through insurance and you'll be, you'll get

$500,000. Her sons are like a really small town guy and somebody with, I think they said developmental disabilities. And so, you know, they were just like, sure like sure i don't i'm not currently equipped to take on a massive like fucking the corleone family of south carolina so i just got them to like go along with it but yeah they're they're now saying like the county coroner requested that the state authorities open an investigation into her death due to inconsistencies surrounding it yeah this is just can't wait for this dateline episode yeah i was gonna say this is probably like a whole other show in itself there's just so many layers like something's gonna come out of this is it's gonna get i mean i'm gonna buy the rights so business-minded jack but do we know who has

the rights to this i'm sure sure everybody. You know, yeah. I mean, it's a tragedy. It's a tragedy, but it's a damn interesting one. There's so much intrigue there, too, because like, yeah, it's hitting all the notes of like America, like the worst parts of American culture have just concentrated wealth and a justice system that is very pliable and kind to people uh who are at certain echelons of society yeah yeah fear you know they're afraid that they're afraid that if they get caught doing anything to endanger those people they're going to come down on them they might disappear next like that's like multi-generation generational like corruption like that's you know your grandparents are telling you not to fuck with the murdochs

you know right at that point like that's they've been making people disappear i'm sure for many generations if yeah can you imagine though too because it's like we have things that like generationally like we'll accept as truth from like our elders yeah that something like even like don't fuck with that family is like comes with the weight of decades of whatever the hell they suspect them of doing too it's like the same way like i don't know my parents would tell me like weird ghost stories or some shit that would freak me out as a kid but i'm like oh my god even they know about this it's a very very uh man dark story but yeah hope to know more yeah uh all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back i've been thinking about you i want you back in my life. It's too late for that.

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point we've touched on it in the trending episodes but yeah you know there was just this whole story with nikki minaj and the tale of the cousin's friend who most people were like, it sounds like an STD. And this person maybe blamed the vaccine and got caught. Or maybe this isn't true at all. It's had many different steps to it. The first one was Tucker Carlson getting involved and like making this like retraction, he never has around this where he was just being kind of cheeky about it and was saying like you know i just want to say like it wasn't her like it's not the cousin's testicles are swollen as far as we know he's fine it's nikki

minaj's cousin's friend's testicles who are swollen from taking the vaccine that's the claim and at first i was like this is weird jack you were like i think he's trolling but yeah over the course of trolling and like doing a doing a retraction and a correction on the least consequential story possible yeah also being kind of dismissive of well the thing is like it's slowly become a culture war battle where conservatives have now found a way to be like, oh, let's back this celebrity, this black celebrity to help, you know, be our sort of champion and to do battle in the anti-vax realm. he's chiming in. He said, they're trying to dictate, they're trying to dictate to Nicki Minaj what she can say and can't say, who she is and isn't permitted to cite, what partisan box she must stay in. When people were like, because the whole thing was she claimed that Twitter had put her in Twitter jail. Twitter was like, no, we never did anything like that. I don't know what

she's even talking about. So then Greenwald was sort of pointing to that. And when someone was like, hey, that didn't actually happen. She wasn't actually censored he said quote if she wasn't banned it's only because of who she is not because of anyone else uh would be allowed to say this all right and then we see like this sort of back and forth now because tucker carlson has gone on for a couple nights now talking about it but he's doing it in this way to really bring up the thing that they love, which is if a black person goes against like whatever the the mainstream point of view is, like especially with Democrats, then it's like they just think that, you know, their favorite thing is they just they Democrats think that every black person has to vote for them. And when they don't, they get so upset if they say anything different. This is what happens to black people when they don't agree with Democrats. And the thing is, at the

end of her tweet, she was just like at the initial one to say, like, you don't have to get bullied. Just she says you should pray on it and do what you think is best. Tucker, again, he used this to just sort of push his same sort of motive, which is, quote, he said, it's that last part of Nicki Minaj's tweet that enrages them them the part where she says you should pray on it make the decision yourself like a free human being and don't be bullied so our media and public health officials didn't like this because they make their livings bullying people so they couldn't let it stand and it's just like an interesting just that this has now been fodder for conservative talking points more than like,

I think anything else. And on top of that, Nicki Minaj had a whole thing where she was saying that the, the white house like lied to her and said that they wanted her to go there or didn't or whatever. It's just stupid. I think eventually she's going to have a zoom call with Anthony Fauci, the surgeon general.

But I think a lot of people also saying like Carlson video on Twitter and I still can't believe that. Yeah. And then the other one with the bulls. Exactly. And people like what? And then she's like, what? Just because he's a white supremacist, essentially, like I can't agree with him. And people like what? Nick, you know, but a lot of people point out is like, if you just remember a week ago what Nicki Minaj was doing in the news headlines, it was for headlines like this. Quote, Nicki Minaj pulls out of MTV VMAs as husband faces up to a decade in prison. That's because her husband, Kenneth Petty, failed to register as a sex offender in California to stemming from a rape conviction in New York when he was 16. So there was a like there's been a she's been saying a lot of

controversial stuff. A lot of people have been like looking at her like what is going on? But this you know, this whole other ball gate thing feels very Trumpy in that you had a lot of negative press or things talking about one thing. So you just come out and say something even more outlandish, like someone's gigantic balls. And now everyone's just talking about that. Right. I think she sees the matrix, unfortunately, on that one. surprised by all the kind of seemingly left-wing people who are using the the vaccine mandates to like start agreeing with tucker carlson and people like this it's like yeah well you know we're constantly seeing strange bad fellows in this era yeah let's talk about the hot new fall trend and it's divorce.

Okay. Who's getting divorced, baby? Yeah. Wow. You are looking great with that ringless hand. Oh my God. This seems like to be a trend that's been, that's being seen across the U S although like a lot of this new, it's weird. This was a piece in the New York times style section. Okay. Uh, sure. I don't know what this has to do with to do with style. But they point out that like in New York and LA, like they've just seen a ton of like just an uptick in divorce cases and things like that. And there's a few sort of theories around it. But like one New York law firm said that quote, since April, our phones have been ringing off the hook nonstop. And most of those calling are people who want to come in and start divorce proceedings. She went on to add during the pandemic, many of these same people were experiencing marital problems and putting off splitting up for practical reasons. And in some cases, she said that some couples were, quote, waiting for the for the vaccines to be approved and to gain more social and economic stability before leaving their marriages. It seemed like according to some,

like, you know, some polls that like relationship people have been doing that this time, like people are more unhappy in their marriages than this time last year when like, you know, we were in the height of lockdowns and you know, there's a lot of,

a lot of people are speculating what that is. It's come from things like, you know, partners who are not pulling their weight and because of like the added labor of like women in the in the lockdown and things like that that this could have compounded like issues of like sort of imbalances in relationships or the fact that maybe because people have been very you know reflective and had time to sort of think about their priorities. It also has been extending to what they want as a partner.

But I don't know. I mean, I actually I oh, whoa. I'm just trying to think. I'm like, do I know? I do know somebody who split up the last couple of weeks. Yeah. Like one of the things that the lawyer suggests is they're hearing more pandemic specific disagreements in couples. I think that's very real.

Like, again, like the thing about the, you know, anti-vaxxer shit crossing political ideologies like that. I think there are people who are probably shocked to find out that their significant other or their their spouse i guess is a anti-vaxxer you know right and that's that's a hard thing to bounce back from i feel like yeah there's a there's a thing that says like one in three or like a third of americans have cut ties with like unvaccinated people yeah because it's become like so contentious and I can see how, yeah, that could easily happen in a marriage. Yeah,

absolutely. Cause like, I mean, I think it's very interesting, like how the, this is like, I don't know. I feel like if we saw it coming,

cause I read had started happening last year, but now that it's been become more and more like, Oh, we're not out of this yet. This is going to keep going. How much more can I take this person? You know, that's probably what's like leading to all this stuff. It's very interesting.

Like, I definitely, I haven't personally seen that so much. But my brother actually got a girlfriend two weeks before the lockdowns in New York and New Jersey. And he decided that he was going to go live with her during everything. And they're still together. And it's been very good from what I've seen anyway. So it's really interesting. That was kind of the opposite.

But because their relationship kind of came out of the pandemic, I guess, it started there. I think that's maybe why. Yeah. But definitely, obviously, families in general, make i guess like it started there right i think that's maybe why yeah but like definitely like obviously families in general a lot of families have political disagreements but when it comes to like things like it's the safety and health of everyone around you like you have to take it a lot more seriously i think yeah yeah i'm yeah it's it it makes a lot of sense where because you you seemingly get married to someone and think, you know, like everything about them and how they'll respond to different stimuli throughout your lives.

But this has been the weirdest test for people. And it's had all kinds of results, like from, you know, your example, like there. I know people who got booed up during the lockdown and they've been great. People are like loving it. They found the loves of their lives. And then there are other people who in it were really starting to reconsider. Most people I know would be like the nature of like their work and what they're doing. But also in some cases, like people having sort of realizations around dating and things

like that, too, of like, oh, wait, I actually I'm starting to understand what my own needs are. And I think this is this other quote from this relationship expert out there saying, quote, there's a lot of angst out there, which is why many divorced people tell me that they are now approaching new relationships by holding potential partners to a higher level of maturity and authenticity. And that starting from the dating level, they will never again, quote, settle for just anyone. Yeah. That also sounds like how people are thinking about jobs a little bit. Yeah. Like, not totally, but, you know,

we still have to, like, put food on the table, but the, you know, it seems like people are getting more choosy. Yeah. you know they it seems like people are getting more choosy yeah like i think i'm feeling more empowered to uh hold hold people to a reasonable standard right and i think is like you know it's easy to get caught up in like what you're like i understand the settling thing because not it doesn't always feel like that you know because sometimes we're surviving and a job is what we needed in that time to survive that moment or a relationship is what we needed in that time to survive that moment or a relationship is what we needed in that time to unfortunately just avoid loneliness. And we're

it's two people avoiding loneliness together, maybe with not much else in common. But yeah, just sort of all of that happening like at once. It's I hope people aren't settling. And I think maybe people are just getting, again, more open about what their needs are because i think everyone was feeling some level of pain these last 18 19 months that right there you're able to actually kind of stop bullshitting yourself on some level not everyone but if you are feeling a lot of bullshit going on it's might be easier to fucking really take stock of what's happening and do yeah shout out to all the people who are able to stay married out there because it's uh it's it's hard it's been a it's been a hard couple years and you know that it takes work yeah but i think i don't know i feel like even in my own relationship like because

we both would have to be open about like shit that was getting us down, like in a way that we weren't doing before. Right. I think because luckily I have a partner who's very intelligent emotionally and like empathetic that there was an arena to do that in that that really helped make things more stable or stronger. And I think in other cases, like you'd hear about people who were just dating and they're like this person doesn't like talk about anything like actually like and doesn't want to talk about their emotions doesn't want to talk about mine and this is just actually someone i was avoiding loneliness with yeah steep yeah avoiding loneliness with is a tough Hey, so it turns out I was just avoiding loneliness. Yeah, you were kind of like a piece of emotional driftwood in a sea of isolation.

I was clinging to. Sorry. Sorry about that. Well, Ayumi, it's been such a pleasure having you, as always, on TDZ. Thank you. Where can people find you and follow you yeah um so you can find me on twitter and instagram at iu she knows uh a y u s h e k n o w s and that's also the name i use for my ko-fi where i take art commissions and my shop on imprint uh the links are all on twitter

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where we talk about magical girls with the people who love them from every corner of the world. And you can follow at Magical Girl IU, spelled A-Y-U, for updates or find the show wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, yeah. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying yes goodness so the one that's been kind of stuck i know it's been a slightly old news that you know there's a new matrix uh trailer that dropped but i kept thinking about this tweet from ron at r-o-n-n-u-i underscore he says the the matrix wasn't dumb you just have to understand the philosophical allegories that it's referencing like

downloading karate from lime wire I love that shit I honestly I used to think like that I'm like oh I'm gonna get this book off I'm gonna get a torrent of this book and I'm gonna expand my knowledge base like some fucking wow yeah getting karate off that's exactly what you have to do yeah yeah uh miles where can people find you what's a tweet

you've been enjoying find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray also the other show 420 day fiance with sophia alexandra If you like 90 day fiance, just come, come hop in the waters over there. It's Laffy. We get Laffy over there. Some tweets that I like. Let's see. The first one is from reductress.

It's been a while. It's just a photo of this woman laying in bed and says, woman's self care starting to look suspiciously like self-sabotage and it can be a fine line i don't like it yeah i'm like just come on come on come on this is what i need okay it's not sabotaging it's not procrastination now and then another one is from uh old friend 99 at old friend 99 said please stop referring to things as orwellian some of us haven't read this his books yet and you're spoiling them and then finally mike drucker at mike drucker tweeted your childhood ends the moment you learn it's not called duct tape

d-u-c-k and not d-u-c-t and that is very true that's the day that uh the magic died you know yeah let's see uh laura is such a good mom tweeted i'm going to costco anybody need me to pick up 50 pounds of rice or a kayak and michael a balazzo tweeted after a long day of protesting in front of the hospital, I like to get home, put my feet up and unwind by passing away of COVID-19. Oh, God. It's dark. It is dark. And then finally, John Boyce tweeted, I wish the instructions for this soup ended with serve and enjoy. I'm so fucking hungry.

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