The Daily Zeitgeist - Cruelty Not Motivating Workers? Vaccines Working Longterm! 6.29.21

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In episode 940, Jack and Miles are joined by American Hysteria's Chelsey Weber-Smith to discuss people continuing to refuse to work for exploitive wages, Miles Taylor claiming he will stop Trump, a study showing that vaccines may have lasting immunity, the Pentagon having zero explanation for UFO's, and more! Plus super producer Anna Hossnieh pops in for Anna's Streaming Corner!FOOTNOTES: Where Jobless Benefits Were Cut, Jobs Are Still Hard to Fill Miles Taylor Will Stop Donald Trump From Winning Again In 2024 Or His Name’s Not ‘Anonymous’ Pfizer and Moderna Vaccines Likely to Produce Lasting Immunity, Study Finds U.S. Has No Explanation for Unidentified Objects and Stops Short of Ruling Out Aliens UFO report: US finds no explanation for sightings The Truth Has Not Always Been Out There UFO report: US finds no explanation for sightings LISTEN: Hiatus Kaiyote - 'Sparkle Tape Break Up' (Official Audio) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It is Tuesday, June 29th, 2021. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Let's go with Mackay Fizer. It's courtesy of Ensign Jensen. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. All right, stop. Download the pod and listen.

Miles is back with political tension. Cold brew grabs a hold of me tightly, putting out shows both daily and nightly. The minute that we stop, yo, y'all know, I turn off my mic and I smoke. TD and Z, we like to talk about scandals. Loftus on stage drinking mics by the handle Jack in his in-law's spare room screaming like his brain is poisoned too much zoom okay

there's more verses but I had to get that last part out because you are no longer in the spare room shout out they let me out to water chestnut on the discord or Walter chestnut on the Twitters I seize you sir thank you for that uh vanilla ice inspired aka who's that from water chestnut oh water check Walter Walter Walter I don't know

aren't you I think the person's like uh works on ships or something from what I remember anecdotally from my my like my vault like Yeah, in the 17th century. Yes. They were on a ship. A Walter ship. Yes, I have been. I'm out of the media closet. It's like the scene.

I've just arrived at Hogwarts from my time living under the stairs in this Harry Potter analogy. Is that a good thing? When you go right finally right? I'm not ignorant of what... You're a wizard, Harry. It's that part. Nobody told me that,

but I've just decided that this UFO report is my induction into the wizarding world of alien spacecraft. Even though I was in a media closet, that was by decision my stay with my in-laws was lovely although i was saying before we recorded i did hear my mother-in-law say to

my wife and jack's in his studio but i think she was just responding to the fact that it was a very humble you know approximation of it. Yeah. I like more that she's like just covered in rubies and diamonds. And she's like has her own like podcasting networks. And he's in his studio. Yeah. Shouting into a can, as you say.

Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the brilliant and talented poet and podcaster behind the Fascinating American Hysteria podcast, which takes a deep dive into the fantastical thinking and irrational fears of Americans through the lens of moral panics, urban legends and conspiracy theories. Please welcome Chelsea Weber Smith. You know, I'm always happy to be here. I love you guys. So thank you know i'm always happy to be here i love you guys so thank you we're always so happy to see you that's nice i'm always thrilled when i look on the lineup see that you are coming up and then you happen to be here on the day after the release of the ufo report by the pentagon very fun yes as. So as a skeptic, I'm curious to hear, you know, what your thoughts are. I won't say as a skeptic, as somebody who specializes in, you know, American delusions.

Right. I call myself a flexible skeptic. Yeah. I think that's a nice term to get. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That doesn't really work.

Flexic? Sounds like... Hey, like a failed toy right to repurpose a bunch like a camping thing for like hey the flex stick oh i'm sorry what is it uh i never mind it's not for toys it's not for kids but i find it just as interesting to think about all these sightings from the perspective of if it is hysteria like what does it say about us right definitely yeah and we can talk a little about that because that happened in the 40s and that's really interesting kind of our first big ufo yeah i will say i'm not i'm not the person to ask if if like these things have been like perfectly explained by a skeptic i'm not the person to ask because i just found out all the roswell shit was apparently explained by oh yeah the air force they dropped a report and they were like

yeah no that was like a spy balloon that we were working on like we told y'all that and everybody laughed at us anyways we're gonna get to that as well as we're going to talk about just the ongoing attempts to woo American workers back into the workforce following the pandemic. We are going to talk about some loser named Miles thinks he can save us from Trump. Hey, let me let me. Hey, OK, that's a real aggressive way to give me a moment to explain how we can bring democracy back on track. We're going to talk about some good news in the vaccination game, assuming you believe in vaccinations. We're going to talk about the Pentagon report. And we will, of course, get to Ana Hosnier's Ana's Streaming Corner.

Streaming Corner. To talk about Starstruck and figure out what we're going to watch next. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Chelsea, we'd like to ask our guest what is something from your search history? Alright, so Piss Prophets. Have you guys ever heard of

Piss Prophets? No. Because you're going to like this. Can you spell it first. Because you're going to like this. All right. So it's what it sounds like. Can you spell it first? Like a prophetic? P-I-S-S. Yes. About urine.

Piss. Okay. Prophet. All right. Say less. Yeah. So we did our most recent episode was called Gender Reveal Parties. So we really dove into, you know, all of these events that are causing wildfires and deaths and explosions. And

we wanted to figure out why things had amped up to this level. So we, on American Hysteria, we always try to go back to some, you know, very root moments and kind of show how things have always been the same. And so, right, the sonogram changed the game of gender for babies, right? Or, of course, biological sex. So before sonograms, it was pretty much all guessing, right? Or, you know, in the Middle Ages, it was all about psychic types of folks coming and trying to determine biological sex because people were always obsessed with kind of like the mystery of pregnancy. And that's what we kept coming back to in the episode because we wanted to go deeper than that it's fucked up and gender essentialist and all like we know that. So we wanted to figure

out more about like what what is the history of this? And so in the Middle Ages, piss prophets and they were called this in the Middle ages which is wonderful and so they had many different ways of kind of examining a woman's urine to try to figure out a if she was pregnant and then b what the sex of the baby was so they would do things like they would mix it with wine to like see how it interacted with the wine they would you know smell it they'd taste it they would one of the things they like to do was burn a ribbon that was soaked in urine to see if the woman gagged at the smell of the urine. They would like read the bubbles, which is what it sounds like. They would have the pregnant woman pee in barley sprouts and a bag of wheat. Sorry, a bag of barley and a bag of wheat.

And whichever one sprouted first would determine the biological sex. So anyway, they were able to later kind of replicate this experiment in the second half of the 20th century. you know, second half of the 20th century. And it was true that in this study, women who were pregnant, it actually showed that whatever, for whatever reason, I think maybe estrogen or something like the up to estrogen level actually did make these things sprout. So it is this really interesting, bizarre thing that I went down into of this world of how we once, you know, we've just so obsessed with the sex of the baby. And a lot of that we kind of found was because if you're living in a world where gender expression matches biological sex, like, you know, unfortunately it does in many, most cases in America, then actually like divining the gender of the child is going to kind of tell you like you can divine their future a little bit, because if you know I'm going to have

a boy, you can sort of for the first time imagine this baby's life. Right. So. Right. I think it's really interesting. So, yeah, piss profits is my answer. This is the second time in less than 24 hours that somebody has extolled the virtues of dark ages piss science to me really yeah well so the podcast how was that party you were at last

night it was a little weird so his last podcast on the left i was just listening to this today yeah yes yes such a good series it's so good yeah so they're doing a series on the plague the black death and they opened the most recent episode with just looking at like the state of medical science at the time and they it was interesting because they were like actually like you know we have this sense that they would just you know burn a baby bird and like based on the direction the smoke went like that would tell you you know what the treatment should be but they had like there was a famous experiment where like the duke of some country or another in europe tried to trick a piss prophet by using the urine of a pregnant

woman and was like, yeah, this is my urine. What do you what do you see for me? And they were like, well, congratulations, you're going to give birth in a couple months. Such a good story. Yeah. Which hopefully it's true. I believe everything that I hear from the Dark Ages. Yeah. Everything from 1100. A lot of it holds up. Yeah, piss science. It was really popular.

And then astrology took over and that was it. Right. So, yeah, astrology and piss science were the two things that they used a lot of in the Middle Ages. And piss has held on. Is there a book called like when piss was king wait and they called it piss back then in the even the parlance of those times piss is this one of these old we still got piss kind of yeah it's got like a storied history piss yeah i mean it's piss yeah fuck is a great like percussive word that is just like powerful in your mouth no matter and like piss piss yeah has the sound of piss they're very

anglo-saxon just yeah fucking piss something i love too is that i feel as i i feel like this is true that the piss prophets were sort of like a faux pas by the time astrology came like they were like oh those are really stupid people who are superstitious and we are the real scientists because we're studying the planet you know and it's just uh it's weird to think about that's my cousin Frank he's just into piss play I'm sorry he's not gonna over promise yeah it's but the thing that's blowing my mind is that they're like let's try the experiment now and those scientists have been like oh shit yeah right i mean there must be something to it i don't know or not well you're

there's people still have such like you know because i remember like in the late 80s and stuff people talking about drinking their piss and shit and people trying to drink their pee and for all the whatever. I don't know the properties. Yeah, I know what you're saying, Miles. And let me just stop you right there. Don't try it. I used that as an advertisement to be like, maybe I should give this thing a shot. It's not what it's advertised as at all.

It's not as good as you expect. Well, that's funny. Even though you protest now, when I asked you very directly, can you get sick from drinking your own? You're like, no, you're good. You're good. You're good. And trust me, you can drink a lot. You can drink all of it, dude.

Actually, anyone in your family is safe. You can drink all of it. What? dude actually anyone in your family is safe what so we knew we wanted to have two kids and we were you know really curious what our second baby's you know if it was gonna be a boy or girl and we got so much like pseudoscience from people oh yeah there was like the number of folds in your current baby's thighs would tell you whether you're gonna have a boy or yeah there was like the number of folds in your current baby's thighs would tell you whether you're gonna have a boy or girl there's like this entire zodiac chart from the middle ages yeah there's this entire chart that they're like no it's actually accurate but it's

like based on like complete nonsense and like i have like multiple like learned people swear by it. Like, you know. This looks like a chart of like antebellum physiognomy. Like, are we sure? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's spot on, spot on. My favorite was a baby nurse told us that she like held a medallion over our son and like let it spin a number of times. And she was like, this works every time you guys are gonna have a girl it works every time except sometimes it's the opposite no oh well that

just means it doesn't work wait and if it's if we're dealing in like brutal binaries then yeah sure i guess oh man so i got one for you guys i got one for you modern piss profit sort of urban legend have you guys heard did anyone tell you about the drano test this is so fucking scary so this is a really popular like i'm gonna call it method of divination because that's how i think about these things and basically the woman pees in a bunch of drano and you mix it together. And if it turns green, it's a girl. And if it's blue, it's a boy. And people do this and they should not do that. It seems such.

Yeah, it's like have a pregnant woman like combine urine with the harshest chemical and let's stand over it and just breathe it in and create new, new, dangerous chemical compounds and then stand around but it just shows that we like need these rituals and we are we just want to know something about this infant's future so you know it's not all horrible it's just humans are fucking can we just like replace it with like happiness reveals this child will be happy and then every time you say yeah and then everyone feels good yeah I was gonna say that would suck if sometimes they were a bummer they're like this kid's gonna be a fucking bummer

just to spice it up you're like uh oh you rolled Damien and just no explosions in dry fields every single thing that we've discussed is better than like the modern yeah trend of blowing his pee and drano if you if instead you're gonna like shoot an explosive yeah and a lot of times i mean not a lot of times but you know i think the current method of

divination is usually like 90 something percent right but it's not it's not a hundred and i've known people who like had everything painted and shit based on what they thought was going to happen and then the baby was not what they were told that's that's the universe letting you know don't be so don't give a shit yeah don't be weird what is something you think is overrated chelsea well you know i'm not adjusting to post-pandemic life well, and I'm feeling very like seeing people is hard, even people that I love, you know. And so I'm feeling like I don't actually think this, but my feeling is, you know, going out and seeing people and is overrated. And I've become very much like an animal person, which is weird. I've become very much like an animal person, which is weird. I wasn't really like, I love nature and everything, but now I'm like, I get all my drama from animals. Right. So I go on, I get up every

morning and go on my special walk at seven o'clock. And I'm telling you, it's like the other day I was at my, my wetland and there was these, you know, a crow attacking a nest of eggs and just an army of these little birds with red wings, just the fucking fucking this crow up. And, you know, the other day I saw an eagle on a football field just tearing apart a seagull. Right. Just eating a seagull, just ripping its guts out. I saw it again, like a couple of weeks later. And I just feel like I'm getting a lot of what I need from, I saw some ospreys just diving and eating fish, you know, it's badass. And then I ID'd the sound that I didn't know what it was and it was a bullfrog.

And, you know, I'm just like very happy there. And I feel like the rest of my old life feels overrated when I can just like do this thing that's so lovely and beautiful. We were talking about how to like get back into it and talking to people and just sort of like catching up and things like that. And just being like, yeah, what's new? And you're like, oh, I saw the same eagle like eviscerate these seagulls. Right, right. And you're like, that's cool. All right, all right.

Cool, cool, cool. I spent like a month and a half taking care of this abandoned rabbit that someone dropped off on Easter. You know how people do that? They get a rabbit for Easter and then they, oh yeah, that's a big thing. People will just get like a one day rabbit pet and then let it loose in a park. And that's what happened to this gigantic rabbit. And you know, I formed this relationship with this rabbit and i would bring it water every day and finally it let me touch it like i worked up to it but now it disappeared so it might be it might have died the eagle was probably ripping it to shreds it was a big fucking rabbit it didn't disappear right when you touched it right because that

would have been fucking true yeah it was like when you touch a bird and it can't survive after. Yeah, no. It's not real. It's down a hole. Yeah, two of the things I can vouch for in your story. Bullfrogs sound weird. Weird, like a motor. Well, in our household, someone stepped on a bullfrog is what we say after we

fart, but also, yeah, my wife and I had an experience where we were like walking around this pond very late at night and we just kept going up and back up and back because the frogs like when you walk within five feet of it would like go silent yeah you walk away and they would just go back to like like it was just like this really loud uh mating season and then one time we walked up to it and they all went silent. But then it was like one of the bullfrogs let

out like a little tiny fart. It was like they were all like holding their breath. And one of them like couldn't do it. You're like, got your ass. You're coming with me. You know, frog law. We don't need people. Right. Look at all we have

the aerial battles between birds of prey like crows and then like a whole like fleet of smaller birds like chasing the crow when it takes a baby or like yeah i mean that's what like aerial battles in world war ii look like they're like dive bombing and like just swooping in and out it's pretty wild so we can replace animals with everything yeah exactly yeah yeah that's the important thing to learn what is something that you think is underrated chelsea well here's the opposite thing to what i just said which is i can't stop paying attention to fucking Jake and Logan Paul's boxing career. If you paid any attention, it's not because I support it.

I just, I just never was into boxing. And I have to say they brought me in because I can't look away from just how fucking insane it is and how, how it just seems so set up. And I don't know. I'm just really been enjoying it since I saw. The first one I saw was the Thriller Fight Club

where it was like Snoop and Pete Davidson hosted it. Did you guys watch that? No, no. Oh, man. They were just rolling blunts the entire time. And it just seemed like totally set up. I don't know what it is about it, but I can't.

I want to start boxing now. I don't know why. And I apologize to america for my interest and support but i have not uh paid pay-per-view i've always illegally yeah oh yeah yeah you can't you don't want it you don't want to contribute to the new celebrity race wars and then aaron carter i couldn't look away from aaron carter's bouncy ass like jumping around that guy i'm sure you guys talked about that did you not i don't think we did i don't know because i watched it i got so bummed out i didn't tell anybody i saw it was so bad yeah did he win lose lamar odom won lamar oh that's right he also had

a good foot and a half on the it was just like an insane choice it's just and then logan paul fought floyd mayweather it's just i can't look Paul fought Floyd Mayweather. It's just. I can't look away from it. They figured it out. They figured it out. I don't know if I should say that it's. Maybe it's irresponsible to say that it's underrated. But I think I just needed to come out and tell someone.

I don't. I think we're not really talking about how much attention it captures. And how much money is being made. And maybe that's part of it too. For something that isn't really of something to be interested in on the merit of sport. No, they're not good at boxing. I really think it's this like this black white binary that they like keep because he's not fighting other white guys like he's fighting. They're fighting, you know, Mayweather.

I know he's like he wants to fight Canelo. He fought Ben Askin, which was ridiculous but that's you know an outlier there's like these things that i think get a lot of people going to and i think for me i really watched that may where they found like you'll beat his ass like show him a lesson and i'm like that's why i wanted to see it wasn't for like this will be a good boxing match it's like i hate this guy it's better boxer do your worst it's just a cultural phenomenon that i can't that's how i see it it's just how is this happening and how and and just the audacity of logan paul fighting floyd mayweather and how they're all they're just all

terrible and yet they have you know and the one the one thing is pete davidson did go up to jake paul live because it's all live, which I love a live event. And, you know, he was just he just directly was like, yeah, so what about these sexual assault allegations against you? And they beeped it out. And Jake Paul just starts like being like, hey, man, don't like and, you know, it's just like I just felt like from start to finish, it was just this like completely insane cultural event. There were just so many musical guests and Snoop Dogg premiered his like super band there. I was just I was just someone was just like, you know, you should watch this. It's going to be weird.

And I had no idea. So that's the other side of my personality right now. It's all bird watching and celebrity boxing right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have like middle ages on the brain. I'm just thinking it would be like if they kept teasing like this person that we all hate

is going to get executed. Yeah, exactly. But then they always escape and like they keep bringing it back and people are just like, well, I guess I gotta go because if they do die, I really want to see them get the shit beat out of them yeah i also think it's underrated that like boxing to this point is so like people who are very good boxers cancel each other out and it can be pretty

boring except for like the split second when somebody breaks through and knocks the other person out. And then it's also like the specificity of like always having the same weight class fighting each other is something that like keeps it very evenly matched. And just mismatching it is also like something that just is like throwing a live wire in the mix. You have no idea what's going to happen. It's just so weird looking to see you know because logan paul is so much taller than mayweather it's just a yeah yeah he's like it's just gross it's a big carnival pay-per-view carnival and i think they're making so much money and that's the thing i think maybe that's what it is is that i don't find many people

like people on the left or whatever it's just kind of like it's so mainstream that it just passes us by and yet it's this like huge I mean people are making so much money and I think people might be throwing you know I think Mayweather could have definitely knocked his ass out maybe you know maybe it's like oh you let him stay up for

whatever you know just like hey we'll pay you more to like not fully destroy him yeah like the longer this goes someone else later on to say he survived but mayweather made like tens of millions of dollars off this yeah it's it's insane so cash the fuck out and i'm like well credit to him because he's like well i'm not losing and i'll just i'll just play with this child in the ring and be to smack him around a little bit and get my millions and why wouldn't you do that it's you know and then you'll yeah and it wasn't even a real match so there's literally no risk for him no stakes yeah no stakes it's not gonna hurt his record not that that would ever

be a possibility that his record would be hurt by logan paul but yeah and the fighting just seems like we're always just craving what's more close to our realities like you know i think that's why ufc had a huge you know it was thriving because it was like street fighting but like skilled and people like oh shit this is like you know i can do this boxing seems like an art mma well granted it's a very elite sport is like you know that is more like yeah this reminds me of when you i will just fuck my little brother up and we're just rolling around and just throwing each other around. Eventually I feel like the next pay-per-views are going to happen

in the customer service line at a Target. And that's what our new boxing matches are. Probably, yeah. Just handheld iPhone. Just straight up regular people. Yeah, y'all checking in for that pay-per-view? Mark versus fucking Jared? Like whatever.

Take your mask off. Put your mask on. You know, like, anti-mask. Love this shit. It's so real. Walmart. Yeah. I heard they're trying to organize a Fauci versus, what's that guy's name?

Yeah. Tucker Carlson. Grudge match. Tucker Carlson would get knocked out. And that would do fucking numbers. Oh, my God. You know what I mean? It would, again, because our thing is, you know, it's the end of an empire.

So we have nothing but bread and circuses like the Romans did and gladiator fights. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty soon it will be like Bill Barr versus fucking John Legend. And it's like, what the fuck? People are like, yeah, I'm here for it. And it'll determine political choices. 100 yeah to determine if trans people will have their medical expenses covered it's like these people and are they stake no but this is where this is where

the discourse has come to y'all it's caitlin jenner and she just throws the the match right right so that trans people get right taken away yeah they're like this is bullshit yo check caitlin's record man caitlin is running as a republican governor this is hold on no she shouldn't have gotten the ring we should have we should have vetted these fighters before or the process of lawmaking it's all fixed let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that.

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this has been a long ongoing news story about how the mostly the Chamber of Commerce and the business owning class of Americans have been really funding this like message of like, we got to get people back to work. Uh, also these $300 stimulus checks that people are getting on top of their unemployment, making them lazy, rendering, um, unexploitable workers. And we don't like that. So we need to figure out how we get these people back to work. Maybe what we can do is take their benefits away in the middle of a pandemic, because despite the vaccinations

happening, we are still grappling with a pandemic. And the whole idea of cutting the checks has gained a lot of momentum. There are 26 states or so who have it on their books to either they have ended the payments or have created a sunset for it that will cut them off earlier. Again, with the idea that this will motivate people to go take jobs and work for subsistence wages, wages that will not even cover your basic necessities. So yes, that experiment is not going well for the business owning class because now we're finding out that in a state like Missouri, where the benefits were cut off, I think on June 12th, they had a bit like there was like the New York Times sort of covered a job fair that happened in like the following week where people like, oh, this is going to be great. We're probably going to be looking at pre-pandemic numbers of people interested. They went to this job fair. Barely anyone showed up. And along with it, there's more research to say that workforce development officials in that state have said

they have seen virtually no uptick in applicants for jobs since the governor announced that the $300 supplemental check would be kiboshed, would be ended. And even like the online site Indeed, where people go to look for jobs, they found that in states that have abandoned this $300 check, the clicks on job postings were below the national average. So it almost goes to say that you're actually, this is having the opposite effect than thinking people are going to be so destitute and desperate that they are willing to then work for wages that are you know below what is necessary to live they're like wow starvation is going to be such a great motivator let's let's all let's get ready

to yeah people are going to big crowds people are going to want to work at BB at the mall. Don't worry. And Express and the Limited Too. And the Delia's catalog. Everybody's going back to work. But it's not happening. There's an economist that was in the New York Times had this very nice way of saying it, of what the situation is right now, saying, quote, one way you might define normal is when employers and workers have the same idea of what an appropriate package looks like for compensation.

And then the issue is matching up the people with the jobs. Clearly, part of the problem now is that what employers and what workers think is out of whack. That's putting it lightly. That's putting it real nicely. I think that's so nice to say that when you, like, for example, in Missouri, in the area where this job fair was happening, you would need to be paying people at least $14 an hour to sort of avoid total absolute poverty. Like that's the minimum. That's like the floor for someone to be able to have wages and be able to provide their own housing and

things like that. If you had a child, that person would now need $30 an hour. So they talked to some people at the job. Do we know the minimum wage in Missouri? Do we know what the minimum wage is in Missouri? I can only imagine. I can imagine it's not close to $14 an hour. The Missouri minimum wage is $11.15. All right.

So it's just shy of it. And so at this job fair, people were offering around $13, $14, barely nothing at 15 in terms of like minimum wage stuff. And they spoke to some people that were there. And this one woman said, if it's not even if it's not above $15, I'm wasting my time here. And this was someone who hadn't been working for a while. But they're personally they had arrived at a point to say, this is what I, this is, I'm, I refuse to live a life where I have to take to a two hour bus ride. When I, if I had the wages for a car, I could get there in 25 minutes. Like it's, this is adversely

affecting my life. There's a lot of other theories around why people might not be coming back as quickly too. And that answer is childcare. Right. And that's a huge missing thing. You know, we're all seeing how all of these forces contribute to people, whether it's them realizing their worth and not wanting to, you know, lay down for these terrible wages or just how like idiotic these business owners are in thinking like, this is going to work. Right. Just turn the screws on them and on these human beings.

And then maybe they will come to the table. And they are. And, you know, then say, oh, well, we don't we're a business. We don't have enough money to pay that. That's going to destroy our business. And it's like, OK, then you don't get to have a business. You don't get to have a business then. That's not true. How much do you make? Exactly. That's not true at all. That's not true. That is not true. That line is so fucking tired to hear people say, well, then, you know, how am I supposed to run a business? Well, first of all, you fucked up because your whole business is predicated on exploiting someone's labor.

So you pay them fuck all and you reap all the benefits of their labor. So you can have your little seed based on human cruelty you are a capitalist who exploits human cruelty at that point i worked at a particular startup and they that was always the line as you know they were paying they would admit openly to not paying me enough i also was once told sorry creatives just aren't respected in our industry quote which is a really great thing for your boss to say was it a tech startup you know you when you sign something and they'll oh yeah yeah yeah i was just curious about the industry because it is

entertainment got it got it got it but yeah and it was entertainment they were like creatives yes yes um yeah and you know it was always like uh-huh i'm just i was really just trying to get up see how so expensive you know just trying to eke up to that like that line you know and and it was just like pulling teeth and it was always like you know if like basically like your loyalty will pay off right like if you just like come with us and go you know and then just like of course eventually you just get fucked over and nobody gives a fuck. Yeah. So it's real charming. I do want to issue a quick correction. Missouri's minimum wage will be eleven fifteen in twenty twenty two. As of right now, it's still at ten thirty. And in twenty eighteen, it's on an upward trajectory from in 2018, it was 785.

This is what I was thinking. It still was somewhere around like eight, nine. Yeah. So 1115 is like what they were like, OK, and then we'll fix it by getting them to 1115. And to avoid starvation, if you have a child, it's 30. And I think what's really interesting is like just just to kind of underline all things, because I always talk about the Chamber of Commerce because they represent, you know, most of the businesses and business owner class of people in the United States. They're the same people who give, quote unquote, bipartisanship awards

to Democrats that were actively against the $15 minimum wage, federal minimum wage. So that's Kyrsten Sinema. That's Josh Gottheimer. That's people like Joe Manchin, Henry Cuellar of Texas. These people, again, this is how all this sort of environment works, where you have an entire group that's in the ears of politicians saying, don't you fucking dare back something that is going to pay these workers more because that is going to fuck up people's bottom lines. And when they play ball, they're like, look at you. Thank you so much for being open to bipartisanship. Get fucked. Yeah, I get fucked.

But anyway. Get fucked indeed. Yeah, get fucked. But anyway. Get fucked indeed. Let's talk about this gentleman, Miles Taylor, who believes that he can save us from Trump. He has a new idea for 2024 that isn't new at all. No. So he's basically saying he this.

You might remember him as the op eded anonymous uh anonymous op-ed person from the trump administration said how bad trump was anonymously uh continuing to work for him and he says that if trump runs in 2024 he has a plan that in no way benefits him at all. His plan is he will run as an independent to split the votes. So all you have to do is vote for him for president. And he has saved us all selflessly. Because I can take some of the people of good conscience with me. OK, again, we saw this in 2016 with a guy that couldn't even win in his home state. Right. So it didn't work. And I think this whole idea that like I can save it, but not in the way that will guarantee me the most smoke, which is to be in the party and start being loud and trying to rip down this like tether to Donald Trump.

I'll be the guy like I'll lure some other people away with maybe some Lincoln Project money. And yeah, probably, if anything, I most likely take people who are like Democrats or people who are registered Democrat who would may vote Republican. I don't think it's going to I don't think you're going to get much of that. These aren't Trump's Republican Republicans because that party's not here no more. The person you're targeting is like the booker on CNN who thinks this is a good idea because they're like a big D Democrat or like a centrist and think that everybody thinks like that. He wants Biden to win then. Right. That's the idea.

It's just like, right. I don't know. He doesn't want Trump to win. He wants Trump to lose. Right. Right. Right. Who knows?

Yeah. Hey, you know, wink, wink. Hey, Koch brothers. Right. I want Trump to lose. Wink Trump to lose. Right, right, right. Who knows? Yeah. Hey, you know, wink, wink. Hey, Koch brothers. Wink, wink, wink. Right? I want Trump to lose. Wink, wink, wink, wink, wink, wink, wink. Not me, but help.

Wink, wink, wink, wink, wink, wink, wink, wink. But yeah, this whole thing is so stupid. Steven Robinson and Wonka just, you know, just pointing out like this. Evan McMillan, we tried this. This is 2016. It didn't work. It's not the point. And also the whole idea is there's not there's nothing that this party stands for anymore. We're like this like mystery person of the fed up Republican is like in numbers big enough to sway anything.

A lot of people are like, yeah, I'm still here for the red meat racism. I still I still eat that, so sure. But good luck to you, Miles. Good luck to you. Godspeed. I do think that the only chance we... So this appealing to the people of good consciousness is out of...

That's just not going to happen. I was reading the story of how Barr eventually came around to say there was no fraud in the 2020 election it was like over lunch and he like said it through a mouth full of food and like offhandedly so like it was like his body didn't want to even let him admit it but mitch mcconnell had apparently been like lobbying him to come out and say this because he was like if i say it trump is going to go like raised earth against the senate race in georgia he's gonna like totally fuck it up it's like bill bill you got you gotta be the one i i

think he literally said i look around and you're the only one who can do it. And Bill Barr waited a month to do it. He was like, what did you say? It's like eating three Whoppers stacked on top of each other. The journalist who he was having lunch with was eating with him and was like, wait, sorry, what did you just say? Could you repeat yourself mr bar so that this raised the first possibility i've seen of trump not being the 2024 candidate for the republicans and it's just like internal fuckery by like you're starting to hear republican party

officials be like well we can't like he just needs to disappear. And that's the only thing that's going to stop him from coming back and getting like the same number of votes he got last time is like internal, like anti-democratic, basically Republican machinations, which in this case, I'm fine with. They don't want to. It's like they all look like someone who's dealing with a person like they're all enabling the base. You know, like if they're if they're addicted to Trump, they're enabling this addiction to his rhetoric by not being the truth talkers in the situation. Like even in this this back and forth McConnell and Bill Barr, he was he was saying like quote you're in a better position

to inject some reality into this situation yeah you are really the only one who can do it it sounds like mitch mcconnell you're not willing to put yourself out there and also do that as well because for you it's easier to just be like i don't want to say they have a problem with this trump stuff and it's it's getting out of hand now but like i certainly don't want and everyone wants to keep their hands off to the point that now it's a complete runaway train and they're still scratching their heads being like well maybe if we ignore him yeah no yeah the the mainstream media narrative seems to be that like we're beyond this and like everybody just wants trump to go away but like i think runaway train is like a great metaphor that we're like on a collision course with a number another presidential election where he's going to have exactly as much if not more support

than he did last time because what's going to stop the republican party's not going to no matter how much they you know think they want to or claim they want to. And the Democratic Party is not going to be able to stop them. Clearly, they're sitting on their fucking hands and being like, I don't know, Philip, I don't know. Yeah, so we're headed right back to where we came from. Do you guys have a running mate guess? Divination? That's interesting.

I mean, I don't know. It's weird because Ron DeSantis is out polling him in like these straw polls right now right so which is interesting but i think that's probably provided by the campaign for ron desantis but yeah and i'm so that's what i'm curious is like it would i don't know the people i mean i guess nikki haley like if if he's trying to seem like he can run a better campaign this time but I just feel like she was yeah into her own thing but she's becoming just as extreme even though everyone's like no she's okay it's like yeah have you heard have you heard how she's been talking lately what about Marjorie do you guys think it would ever happen I think that would be more likely than

another like Mike Pence type where like he listened on listened to other people on mike pence and i think he thought that was a failure yeah i think he like i was saying he's gonna have as much support or more i think he's going to be more far more dangerous than he was the the first time around like during the election if he wins, because he's through listening to people. Like he doesn't even listen to Ivanka anymore. Like he's now just in his media cave getting like creating paranoid fantasies.

Right. Yeah, he's Scarface at the end. Yeah, he's Scarface at the end, but he has a very legitimate shot at the end. Yeah, he's Scarface at the end, but he has a very legitimate shot at winning the presidency. So you have Scarface at the end running the country. It's, you know, that's where... With a bowl full of cocaine in front of him.

Yeah. He's just off to your best friend. Well, and then you've got the mythos of him rising again, right? Which is really attractive, just as like a Christian narrative, right he's he's being resurrected back and it's just gonna be real they're gonna just how could it get turned up anymore but it will yeah i just want q anon to go away it makes my job really stressful

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rituals and everything and it's just reminds me of work yeah don't want to watch it show some birds of prey ripping up a mouse yeah please something real yeah real violence all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back i've been thinking about you i want you back in my life. It's too late for that.

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Findings add to growing evidence that most people immunized with the mRNA vaccines, so that would be Pfizer and Moderna, may not need boosters so long as the virus and its variants do not evolve much beyond their current forms, which makes sense, which isn't guaranteed because life. But even better news, people who recovered from COVID-19 before being vaccinated may not need boosters even if the virus does make a significant transformation. So they're saying if you are someone who recovered from COVID and you got vaccinated, you're looking at even better outcomes from people who weren't infected and just got vaccinated. That's because they've been looking at sort of immune cells and they say they recognize that the virus lie quiescent in the bone marrow for at least eight months after infection. And so-called memory B cells continue to mature bone marrow for at least eight months after infection,

and so-called memory B cells continue to mature and strengthen for at least a year after infection. Based on those findings, researchers suggested that immunity might last for years, possibly a lifetime, in people who are infected and later vaccinated. But how long does the magnetism last is my question. Depends on how sticky your skin is. For those of us who are,. Let's say skeptical about the Yeah, yeah, yeah. TBD. TBD. They're more concerned about this. How long does Bill Gates get to listen

to my thoughts, bro? Sorry, he's already been listening to them. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert on all the surveillance state stuff. It's all happening now. Look at your phone. Yeah. But unfortunately, if you got the J&J, it might not be as durable in the long term. What is...

That's so much bullshit. But they're obviously still effective for the variants we have now. It's just more like long view saying if we're dealing with this kind of COVID. Yeah. It turns out the news is very promising. That's great. I just feel bad for J&J folks. Did you get changed?

No. Which one did you get, Jack? I'm a MacKay Pfizer. Oh, that's right. Of course. bad for j and j folks did you get changed no you're which one did you get jack i'm uh mckay pfizer oh that's right of course how could i get yeah yeah i mean roll baby yeah it just feels like i've the j the people who got j and j like i have a friend who got it and then the next day they were like we're not giving this out anymore uh and like pulled it off the market for like a week and then now they're like yeah you're gonna need another one of these bad boys sorry uh it's just like all it felt like cutting corners from the start because you only had to get one and it was like slightly lower and now it's just like non-stop yeah but i mean not

to say this isn't to say that J&J is useless. It's just because it's not an mRNA vaccine. It's just operating differently. And so the long view is that, and that was always the case. That's why the efficacy rates were higher for the mRNA vaccines than they were for J&J. And you can probably get

that other vaccine, right? It's not like you get the J&J and you can't get, I don't know. No, that would be super fucked up with like, hey man, it's like you're trying to download a windows application onto a Mac OS computer, right?

That's not, it's not going to happen, but you can't double up on like, you can't just like keep getting vaccines until you get the one you want. Right? Like, no, no,

I don't think I'm talking longterm. Okay. You know, eventually, eventually last week. I just wanted to get like i didn't even get sick could we go hard on like a couple modernas and like just do a uh you know a tasting menu can we just do it can we do like a swirl like when you're at the froyo place

or a graveyard soda you know yeah put all the sodas in one at the roller rink. Vax water. I got AstraZeneca, Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, J&J, a couple weird ones. I didn't even hear it. I don't really know how to pronounce them, but I got them. The Rick Carlisle is what I think of with the graveyard. He, as a grown man in his 40s, still, when he goes to a restaurant, orders a graveyard. How many times a year does that happen? Probably zero, actually, except for wherever he is. Like four servers? Yeah, yeah. They're like, I'm sorry, sir, what? Yeah. Please don't make me do that.

You're not at a pool concession stand. You understand that, right? I said I know what I want. Okay. All right. Let's talk about this ufo report i mean in some ways it's uneventful they didn't explain shit they explained one of the uh i think you know it was over 100 cases they were looking at they explained one as a deflating weather balloon. All the rest were not explained. And they specified they called out 21 reports of 18 episodes that have no known explanation, like based on what they saw, they can't be explained. But then they do go out of their way to say that, like, we definitely need more data. You know, some of the targeting cameras that were used

are hard to read. They're not things that we're used to seeing. So it's not the bombshell that I feel like UFO enthusiasts were hoping for. But, you know, they did give it the old college try for a couple months and they weren't able to explain really anything. So it was a total of 143 reports gathered since 2004 remain unexplained. The assumption among the skeptics seems to be that there is some motivation for all of these reports to start popping up at the same time. Like the U.S. is so far and above enemy weapon capabilities that they need to create like a boogeyman to motivate increased like weapons spending. I mean, we do that shit without going to the UFO files. We're like, brown people!

And you're like, ah! That suggests that there's like some massive pushback on like weapons spending as of right now. Yeah, I'm a skeptic enough in how the foreign policy works in this country to know like we don't need aliens to keep them like that's yeah i don't i don't think that's a necessary part of it but go ahead there's i just they still it's the number of them the similarity between them and the fact that many of them have both eyewitness testimony,

the weapons targeting cameras, and radar. That was the thing from the 60 Minutes report that sticks with me, is that they kept seeing this phenomenon on radar. They scrambled the jets out to go look at it, and then with their eyes, the fighter jet pilots this inexplicable like white tic-tac that was like circling them so for that one it has to be a an explanation where the radar caused them to scramble these fighter jets and the fighter jet happened to be flown by two fighter pilots who wanted to create this hoax around like UFOs.

So, I mean, it's possible for sure, probably more possible than alien life forms, like living amongst us. But I don't know. It is at least not as open and shut as like the the skeptics rebuttals that i find least convincing are like one-off things where it's like it's just a weather balloon

seen through this one camera it's like yeah but it was seen by radar a camera and then that explains that instance right that one instance but it's also like the similarity between them are we saying that because one person said tic-tac or there's this one video of the tic-tac-shaped thing that that's then influencing people and then chelsea from your kind of uh the world of your podcast i i guess i find that just as interesting. Like what about our culture changed from wanting to believe in flying? So like, if we're to assume that this is all bullshit or like a figment of the human imagination,

then what about our imagination changed so that we want it to be a tick tack as opposed to like a flying saucer, I guess. I couldn't answer that that that maybe that has some like i mean the book i read that one of the books i read that really influenced the show is actually carl young which okay yeah just whatever problematic person but this and also maybe full of shit really god just a very interesting person. But he wrote a book about kind of like the psychology of the UFO hysteria. I'm not I have no skin in this game in terms of our aliens real or not. We were talking about this before. But, you know, in an ever expanding infinite universe, I certainly have no problem imagining that we are not alone. And that's about as far as I go into having like a real opinion. But he was writing about the 40s and that was the first time that, I mean, these sightings were popping up all the time,

all of a sudden, like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, all over the country. And it was right around the time that we were really fearing like a Nazi invasion, right? We were really fearing sort of an invasion from without coming to the country that we hadn't experienced. So it's just, you can kind of,

I don't know what would be now like what the reason would be now except that you know tom delong really led the uh charge and finally got us to believe in aliens right isn't that fucking weird that tom delong just like lived his truth he lived his truth because i think about being you know a 10 year old kid listening to blink-182 or however old and listening to that Aliens Exist song. And it's such a great anthem of a conspiracy theorist sort of being like, I don't want to believe this, but I think that it might be true. I don't know. I grew up with like my dad. Speaking of shapes of UFOs, my dad is somebody who is like has a million sort of whopper tales. You know, you can't really tell if they're true. But this actually came up the other day because I had to attend a wedding with both my biological mother and that side of my family and

my biological father and that side of family, which is not ideal. But they were able to have a nice conversation about my dad, the story he has of a UFO encounter, which was confirmed by her. And she always believed it because he came back and he was so scared like shaking and really really freaked out so he was like driving his truck out to get beer after some party and he was with his friend jarshaw who calls me sheila and will not meet me and i have never met my dad's best friend and it's a whole thing but he just calls me sheila it's he just it's like become a joke now like he's shy but now it's been 30 years so it's just a joke now this is you know you can cut this part out jar shot it's just such a good name

yeah i'll use it some therapy is jar shot like a combination no it's the last name oh it's like yeah it's just jar girl yeah so they're driving their truck in through the woods uh outside olympia and they hit something just boom and you know slam on the brakes and they get out and see this orb like a silver orb and it just suddenly like rises up and just shoots off into the woods that's what they said they saw right and that's a story i was told my whole life growing up you know and so i i uh probably didn't happen you know like it sounds crazy but there's like you know there's two people who say it happened probably two drunk people yeah i don't know it's it's a weird story and best friends who got each other's backs like oh

shit i hit yeah yeah and you gotta get my back man let's say this fucking orb no i will never know the truth right but you know that is like woven in the fabric of my dna is like this story and other alien types of stories and i just have no idea but i think you know this circular thing is interesting because that's not something i'd heard a lot about of like it seems like a what like a men in black scenario or something like that but yeah i don't i don't have a ton of thoughts the only thing that we like to really disprove is that like reptilian aliens bred with humans to create like pedophile elites you know like we don't want to we don't that's what we're trying to kind of debunk but otherwise compelled yeah they blink sideways man they blink sideways here's a video of it

you said the suspect blinked two sets of eyes yes yeah one of them yeah yeah two sets of eyelids but you know so i i am scared of aliens i don't really want to deal with it it's definitely one of my biggest fears which i don't really know why i watched all remember like fox caught on tape you guys i know you do like ufos caught on tape it was such a huge thing in the 90s too and i don't know i i want to do a whole episode that that traces this yeah so get back i wonder what it offers people like sort of philosophically for those that are believers and what is sort of anathema to the people who are like really aggressive about denying any other life existing out in the

universe at all or the idea that we could be so ignorant about our own planet or life on this planet that it's just like protecting ourselves like that's we know everything there is to know we know everything is to know you know it's like both are terrifying right like the existence or non-existence because if it's non-existence we're just floating in an infinite darkness with like no hope right but if it's like they're aliens that might be scary but it's kind of like the illuminati right it's like okay maybe there's something up here that even if they're nefarious it shows me that there's like something controlling the chaos you know i think so much stuff just comes back to like the anxiety of of not knowing and the anxiety

of death and all those different things and people just go in different directions depending on how they're raised and uh so we get this battle i never really bought into it growing up i wasn't even really interested in like time life stuff i just like put that all in the category of like i was more interested in like like the explanation for ancient aliens being like inherent white supremacy like that they're just like well they couldn't have built these massive pyramids because they weren't white and it's like no there were civilizations that we just wiped out that you are giving, like, way too short credit for. This, like, spate of sightings and videos and, like, military... I don't know. There's just, like, a sense that you hear among fighter pilots.

And, you know, who knows if they have their own motivation. But, like, this particular sp state just doesn't like the no explanation has like quite sat right with me to this point and usually when i'm like looking at history or like a story this much i'm able to come up with like a working model of the event that fits within the version of the universe that like my brain has formed in the background and like this one just like still feels very unsettled to me so that's why i that's just like how my brain works i'm like very interested in it until i can like kind of uh explain it i've jumped straight to bringing out the welcome wagon for the extraterrestrials yeah i mean i'm just like spare me please i was ignorant right that worked well for those uh that worked well for the the revelers and uh independence days yep that's what i mean

me at that first interstate bank building in downtown man they got up oh they're opening the doors i mean i think you're i think the way you're doing it jack is good it's like let's just we don't know we don't know we don't know we just don't know just like the mother report great like place to sit in you know sometimes like we don't know and so that opens up because if you say they're not real or they are real then you're going to be processing all the data through your confirmation bias so you're going to see all this evidence in one way whereas like if you don't know then you can like you just like yeah absorb it and eventually maybe come to a conclusion but i just don't think

until we see if until we have any definitive proof how we're going to to say i don't know yes or no yeah like this is like as much as like I don't believe in ghosts. I really didn't believe in UFOs prior to this whole story and like doing research into it. So it's I feel very stupid for believing in it. Like it doesn't sit right with me that I like how I'm open to it. But that's where I'm at. Have you been to Roswell before? No.

The town? No no i'm like not that tight i'm not interested in that shit i know i drove through though on like a road trip and went there and it is just the tackiest most fantastic town it just like is not the town's not doing well and they're completely subsisting on like alien plastic alien toys made in china that's just how they're getting by but the um the museum is very fun i will give the museum that i like it when it's like it's so tech it's like yeah you go it's like you're gonna you're gonna not believe in anything no i left go to roswell yeah fuck it yeah all right and we are thrilled to be joined in our fourth seat today by the super producer herself, super producer Anna Hosnier for Anna's Streaming Corner. Was that?

Hi. Hold on. My cord is stuck to me and I'm all wrapped up. I'm about to fall. Oh, did you get the vaccine? The vaccine? No, I'm actually, I'm an anti-vaxxer. Did I not tell you? Yeah.

Then it's probably not. I'm mRNA all day. mRNA all day. mRNA. mRNA all day. There you go. So this week we watched a show on HBO Max called Starstruck. Why don't you give us a description of why you recommended it?

Well, I recommended it because Miles was like, have you seen this show? And I was like, no, I got to check it out. And then I loved it. So then I recommended it. So inadvertently, Miles recommended it, which goes against everything that Anna's Streaming Corner is. Okay, let's erase that part. People got to know the magic of this. I didn't even know. Miles, the dude who's running for president against Trump? No, no, no. Some other asshole who works on the show.

Got it. Okay. Unfortunately, I did not hear the majority of this episode, so I do not understand the reference. I apologize. I just wanted to make you feel bad for that. Do not understand the reference. I apologize. That's what we call a callback. I just want to make them feel bad for that. So, yes, the show Starstruck. It stars a comedian, writer, actor from New Zealand, Rose Matafayo, who is like an Edinburgh, you know, legend, if you will.

A revelation. A legend. I had never seen her in anything, I don't think. But she's fucking, I mean, it's just like a tour de force. She's amazing. Yeah, so she she stars in Starstruck and I believe she wrote it, you know, obviously because it's hilarious, but it's about this New Zealander who lives in London and she like, you know, hooks up with a guy one night turns out guy is huge movie action star and then you know hilarity ensues it's great it's fun it's a fun romp it's only six episodes it's really entertaining it moves fast but it's hilarious and um i'm excited to see rose and more stuff now now that she got this like you know hbo max show right and uh actually i believe a um comedy special now on hbo max as well yeah they were

advertising it right i saw the ad for it like when i was finishing watching starstruck and this is as good a vehicle for like making you want to watch the thing they're advertising because like she's so funny and then the stand-up stuff that they show from her special really seems like she's just a real live wire. And this looks so good. I'm so excited. It has 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. Yeah, it does. I'm reading about it.

This show has so much fucking heart, though. I really like it because it's hilarious, but it's really grounded. Like, she's got her own shit she's dealing with and it's not just like oh no my life's perfect because i'm with this celebrity who has everything it's like she's really kind of embarrassed by it and is dealing like with her own idea about like what this celebrity is and who this person is in relation to her and the cast is like really like i'm not really familiar with a lot of the people in the show but i personally i have to shout out the one of our co-stars emma cd who plays her roommate kate has so many good like one-liner just like performance things that are so subtle that

they just were fucking killing me so yeah what about mini driver how's she doing i haven't seen her in a while is she only in like one episode yeah she's really funny yeah she has a brief role but she is very funny this is my favorite cameo yeah this is my favorite genre of cameo when a like actor gets to come in and for 15 minutes play the exact sort of holly Hollywood asshole who like they hate the most in like the entertainment industry. So she comes in and just plays this inexplicable manager for the actor and is very funny. I mean, yeah, she's hilarious. Also, the guy, the action star is played by Nikesh Patel, who I didn't make the the connection but I've been following him on Twitter for a while and he's like really funny on Twitter so when I realized it was him I was like

oh like he just has a lot of he was in like a Doctor Who episode and there was just like you know a lot of like him getting confused for like another Indian guy actor who's like I don't know he just he's really funny on Twitter and he talks a lot about being a person of color in the industry and so i was actually like oh shit it's that guy i've only seen his profile literally like he has a his photo is like a profile of him right so like i it took me a while to make the connection but then i when i did i was like yes that guy he's really good so i hope to see more of both of them in upcoming comedies or even dramas if you like if you like english comedies you're gonna love this if you like if you like kiwi people you know you're guy montgomery fan rose matafayo is bringing that energy uh in her own great way and also like if you just like

a show that's if you like good writing you're gonna like this show because it's really well done in just six episodes you really get a full-on arc that so it's like not often you watch a comedy show and then the episode ends and you're like go go go fire up the next one fire up the next one like you don't want the sort of ride to end so i'm getting some feel good vibes did you guys watch feel good no may martin feel good oh really that's that sounds like the most like this show May Martin is a comedian who also wrote a show and she is a Canadian living in England and it's like

recovering drug addict who's also like very non-binary and kind of struggling with that but it is one of the funniest and most heartfelt shows I cannot recommend it enough the trailer was kind of bad so I slept on it a little and then somebody brought it to me. And so that will be my this feels like the continuation of that need that needs to be fulfilled that that show opened.

So thank you for that recommendation. I'm excited. There's yeah, there's this also the ways that Rose might have failed, like just writes about relationships. It's so fucking honest and real that it's just like from she has like this ex who she's not really that into but like he's around and like he's so annoying but it's like written in this way where you can kind of see how disarming like exes can kind of like just kind of make their way back and you're like wait what the fuck am i doing with you again um yeah so i'm definitely gonna have to check uh feel good out. Just off the strength of the title.

Yep. Yeah. I think I actually did watch the trailer for this. I got to go. Now I know. And that was an extra edition of Chelsea slash Anna's. What is it called? Streaming.

What do you got? What's the next one? What do you, what do you, what are you lobbing up next time for us to dunk down from the, from the recommendations? Should we all do feel good? Or did you have something in the chamber? I know I was thinking of something and now I'm blanking. One thing I will say is that I'm going to be watching Army of the Dead at some point in the next week.

Just because the Nielsen ratings that came out revealed that to be kind of a massive hit that a blockbuster is worth of people have watched so i just want to watch that and kind of get a sense for like i watched it very passively just because knowing that tig notaro wasn't acting with anyone on screen and when you watch it like that you're kind of like this is amazing there's like a lot of parts they clearly said to shoehorn take in and like the acting's like happened like the way they would frame shots to make it seem like they were both there is very clever but when you watch it like ain't nobody there

nobody in the scene with it I've not heard about this at all either oh yeah Tig Notaro who did Tig replace Chris D'Elia yeah so cause of that shit that went down with Chris D'Elia and his inappropriate connections with minors and things and other women, they put Tig Notaro in,

but it had to be shot in the pandemic, and it was just Tig on screen. Right. Happy to navigate that. Yeah. After the movie had been shot. It's great. No, I honestly can't remember. happy to navigate that yeah after the movie had been shot um i know you figure out what you want to no i honestly can't remember i had something and i legitimately can't remember because i came

up with it before i went and saw fast and the furious nine and that's like all that's been on my mind since everything yeah i can't remember what i was watching. Now all my critical theory is strictly F9 based. I don't know. Fast and Furious 9. I do feel like we also, that's a movie that I probably need to watch.

I tried to talk myself into going last night, but. To go see Fast 9? Yeah. Did you see it yet? Hell yeah. No, no. Yeah, we got to see that shit.

It's a tour de force. Hey, maybe, yeah, maybe Miles will see that shit. It's a tour de force. Hey, maybe. Yeah. Maybe Miles will be at a random theater in the L.A. area and we'll all watch it. There you go. We can meet up. I hope you do. It's lovely.

I actually went to see it with Joelle Monique. Oh, yeah. Because I was because I was out of town and our fucking Joelle when she was on the other day, I was like, I want to go with you. We were talking about we had a whole thing and I was out of town and our fucking Joelle, when she was on the other day, I was like, I want to go with you. We were talking about, we had a whole thing and I was out of town. So I played myself and I'll go by myself. Engineer, editor,

producer, Justin was with me and Joelle. So I met Justin for the first time in person. Boy, we had fun. That's awesome. We really did. I'm not joking.

That movie is a wild ride. How was his sneaker game? His kick game? He actually wore beautiful sneakers. I pointed not joking. That movie is a wild ride. How was his sneaker game? His kick game? He actually wore beautiful sneakers. I pointed them out and he was like, they had some suede on them. I was just going to point out that there's been utter silence from Justin on this first time. He's denying. He's just.

Yeah, he didn't even mention it. He's like, I don't know her. I'm like, what'd you do this weekend? He's like, I don't know. Hasn't even dropped in. Nothing, man. I don't know. He said nothing, I don't know. Hasn't even dropped in. Nothing, man. I don't know. He said nothing, man.

It sucked. No, we're actually like best friends now. We got matching tats. One day he'll admit it. Matching tats. All right. So we will be back tomorrow with what this week's assignment is. But I will be watching that Netflixflix show army of the dead we were gonna

try and hit up f9 at some point this week to uh you know be in touch with the zeitgeist because it's the biggest movie since uh the last star wars dropped uh biggest opening weekend fast nine yeah i will say it is a movie made strictly for people who love the fast and the furious like they were like okay write down every trope we've ever touched on ever in this entire series now do that like multiply the emotion times a thousand and the stunts have to go harder uh we have to say family minimum 86 000000 times. Right. Right. That's what I look for.

It's the dream. And you know what? Yeah. People will come back from the dead. Because if there's minimum at least six people don't come back from the dead from each Fast and the Furious movie. There's no movie. It's not worth it. Yeah.

What's the point? Has it reached scream level? Because I'm not a Fast and Furious person. I i have no hate and i sort of want to be one so i like feel jealousy right now but has it reached like scream level where it's like eventually going to become self-conscious and self-aware and a parody of itself it has yes that fever pitch all right wonderful well that makes me really i will say this all first person perspective yeah there is a character a beloved character who does start to point out that things are a little weird how like they just kind of everything just works out yes tyree's always like because he's always doing that for like the past five months he literally is just like

we're driving yeah what is going like have you noticed we, like, don't die? It's just like, what is going on? Physics doesn't exist in our universe. Yeah. Then it's like there's spinoff films where Tyrese's character is, like, dealing with his immortality. Yeah. And he's just trying to die a bunch of ways. He kind of is already. Yeah.

Right. That's funny. Oh, see? New IP for y'all. There you go. Serve it up. Chelsea, as always, such a pleasure having you. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you?

Well, thanks, guys. It's always so great to be here. You guys, let's see. You can find me on Twitter, although I have been taking quite a Twitter break and my mental health is improving markedly. But I did it for you guys. I did lots of Twittering this weekend for you guys. Oh, please don't. Please.

I never want to hear anyone's on Twitter because of me. I'm like the same way. I'm like, huh, there's a relationship with my lack of use of social media and my anxiety going down. Yeah, it's weird, isn't it? It's strange. But you can find me there at Amerhysteria and on Instagram, which stresses me out considerably less at American Hysteria Podcast.

And then you can find my show, American Hysteria, anywhere that you get your podcasts. But maybe some places you can't. But I don't know. Probably most places. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh, yeah. I decided what I woke up to about myself.

How about that? We like those? Yeah, yeah. What do I got here? I'm I woke up to about myself. How about that? We like those? Yeah, yeah. What do I got here? I'm not going to say their name, but because it wasn't super nice. But so it said at Amerhysteria, all well and good, but nuclear doesn't contain the sound you anywhere in it. It's nuclear. you anywhere in it it's nuclear and then they put the like pronunciation of it you know like the i don't know what you call it but the phonetic pronunciation of it and then just said please

which um i felt like was really a great way to wake up because i can't say the word nuclear i say nuclear i say it and i've been working on it for years now for this show because that is the number one thing that people write to me about is you say the word nuclear wrong and uh i just wanted to share that tweet that i felt was really unnecessary yeah i think you should just yeah it's it's crazy how i do say that and that is true of me always so get fucking fucking used to it. And like, let me go through your life's work and just like make sure you're pronouncing every word. Right. And yeah, I just decided to end on a petty note. Why not? People get mad at me for saying A and an at the wrong time. And I respect each in history. Yeah, I don't know. Like I do it like randomly, I've noticed. And it's weird, but I'm also not gonna like change my train of thought to trying to address it. Just trust that like when I write emails, I don't mix it up. It's just a fucking weird brain fart. And everybody can get fucked. Who corrects me on that also? It's just like, yeah. Just look, you're saying like the great Homer Simpson when he joins the Navy.

It's nuclear. He's working on that nuclear sub. It's hard when the president said it again and again and again and again. It gets driven into you, you know. It's funny because as I was looking this up, I was like, which episode is that one where Homer says it? It's the Navy one. But someone on Reddit on the Simpsons server said, I'm a that one where Homer says it? It's the Navy one. But someone on Reddit on the Simpsons server said,

I'm a big Simpsons fan but never got the nuclear joke. Can someone explain it? We're like, you are a true fan because you probably went, yeah, that's what Homer said.

That's probably it. So, producer Anna Hosnier, where can people find you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying? I just realized I pronounce what is it? Nuclear? Nuclear.

It's not nuclear. Are you one of me? Nuclear? Welcome. I think I pronounce it, but. Oh, no. No, I honestly have no idea. When you were talking about that, I was like, I don't even know how I

say that word. I have no memory of ever saying it. I refuse to say it. I refuse to say it. I don't know. I protest against it. Someone tweeted that they refuse to listen to my show anymore because of the way because words mean things. That's really terrible that someone has the free will to not listen to something that's free for that. I know.

How dare I shake the foundations of... Welcome to Earth. Yeah. Welcome to Earth. Thank you. I don't like that. Ana, do you have a tweet you want to call out or... Yeah.

First of all, I would like to shout out that photo of Virgil Abloh at Fashion Week with his brand new like sweatsuit. That photo gave me, I saw it all over Twitter. Desus Merrow tweeted it like me coming to brunch after that PPP loan comes through, which I thought was funny. But also it gives me so much anxiety because the pants are way too long and his shoes are untied.

And I know that's like the cool aesthetic, but it's like, come on, man. Like, is it worth tripping to be like cool as hell? I don't know. It's not worth it to me. It's like it's kind of dangerous. That's a flex because you're like, dude, I don't even have to pay attention to like walking. That's the problem. It's like I can't get past that.

I'm like, yeah, cool. You're wearing a suit made out of sweats. Great. It's a problem to me. It's like, I can't get past that. I'm like, yeah, cool. You're wearing a suit made out of sweats. Great. It's a new girl joke. But like, I can't like, you got to tie your shoes, man. It's not worth it. Like, just tie your shoes. Even if the pants are too long, just tie the shoes.

It's too much working. He's not going on any escalators. You don't know that. We don't know that. Can you imagine? That's how he dies. He gets caught in an escalator and a bloodbath ensues. Oh, God.

You don't even need the escalator. You just step on the lace and you fall right down. And you fall fast. Yeah. Exactly. And there's no coming back because you also have those really long pants. You don't know what's going to happen. Oh, God.

I can't find this picture. What is he wearing? I can't either. I'll put it in the chat. It's brilliant. It's quite upsetting. It's just, you know, that's fine. Virgil Abloh, you know, what you do for, look, you've had some terrible takes and your fashion.

Eh, whatever. To me, I'm like, whatever. It's Louis Vuitton. It's high fashion. You know, meets Nike. But he's bringing back the Vuitton Air Force Ones that people had to use to custom make in the early aughts. I think that's been the biggest thing for the culture. Old, choogy, geriatric hip-hop millennials have been looking like, yo, the Vuitton forces are back.

That's cool. I'm all about it. Do your thing. But just tie your shoes, people. It's just not worth literally losing your front teeth. You know how insurance works in this country. It's not for us. Insurance is not for us. Insurance is not for us.

This is reminding me, Anna, I know you must remember this, of the style of like girls in high school in like the, let's see, it was like the early 2000s when the bell bottoms were so big and they would drag on the ground. Do you guys remember this?

Like JNCOs. They're like high-fashioned jingles. They just rip apart. If you live in Seattle, they're just soaking up your thigh. That was true for me and I'm way older than you guys. That's always

been a thing. The chewed up back. It would rip apart after a while. I get it. It becomes like a mop that's been in use for 40 years by the end. I guess that's what the flex is. That you're like, these are probably like $1,000 pants that I'll sweep the streets of Paris with.

Because I don't give a fuck. Because money is nothing. That's true. Just be safe, everyone. If you can't afford that, be safe. Tie your shoes. My mother's like, you're not getting out of the car until you tie your shoes. I'm like, but mom, the party's in there. I don't give a, you tie your shoes. You don't look like a fool. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying?

Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey. Also the other show, 420 Day Fiance. If you like 90 Day F day fiance and weed that's where it's at a tweet that i like two tweets first one is from elisa at miss thugger tweeted i gotta stop applying for everything on indeed i got an interview on tuesday to be a pastor and i'm muslim no one wants to work but i know i know that i know that vibe uh another one is thomas at the dank engine tweeted fun fact male honeybees die shortly after sex kind of going after our last talk it's three stages of life are literally honey nut cheerio Honey Nut Cheerio. That's nice. So that's so weird because I liked a tweet by, was yours by someone named Marvin?

The display name was Thomas. So there's one from Marvin that's going around that is the same joke, but I wonder who. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. What time? Let me get the forensics on there.

June 24th at 8.08 p.m. Oh, no. This guy's an imposter. A Sabatucci. 259 on June 27th. That's your dudas? Okay. Yeah.

So this one I got because this dude, Marvin, MTN, Facebook for Android tweeted male bees die after mating that's basically their life honey nut cheerio and then like one person tweeted holy shit and someone retweeted oh my fucking god this website is free and this is my favorite dad joke of all time so

and the dude looks like a real dad so shout out to him that's clever exactly that's about right oh that's clever the tweet i've been enjoying daniel spencer dan spencer tweeted i was hired to write a song for the new fast and furious movie but i got fired after i sent in just the two of us with the words changed to fast and furious we can make it if we if that works though i know It would be so good.

You and I. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

as well as a song we think you might want to check out. Miles, what song are we suggesting people ride into their day upon? Well, you know, my favorite band has a new album that came out over the weekend. That's Hiatus Coyote. Their new album is called Mood Valiant. And I want to shout out one of my, one of the tracks on there that I like, isn't one of the singles, but one of the album cuts is called Sparkle Valiant and I want to shout out one of my one of the tracks on there that I like isn't one of the singles but one of the album cuts is called Sparkle Tape Breakup and it's again these people are nasty on their instruments okay Napalm the vocals from her are just we're gonna

vaporize your eardrums when you listen to it and the production is really dope because this one feels like really kind of like boom bap hip hop, but they're playing everything. And so it has a very nice organic feel. So look, this is Hiatus Coyote with Sparkle Tape Breakup. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this morning.

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