The Daily Zeitgeist - Crystal Pepsi Engagement Ring, Trump vs. Short Kings 2.18.20

Episode Date: February 18, 2020

In episode 571, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, journalist, and correspondent for Redacted Tonight Natalie McGill to discuss James Carville criticizing Bernie Sanders, the DNC needing a shake u...p, Trump attacking Michael Bloomberg's height, the coronavirus, the Crystal Pepsi engagement ring, the first look at Robert Pattinson as Batman, the movie The Hunt, and more!FOOTNOTES: James Carville hits back at Bernie Sanders after criticism: 'At least I'm not a communist' Senior black Democrats urge party chairman to take responsibility for Iowa Short People Are Pissed at Trump for His Bloomberg Height Attacks Whistleblower Li Wenliang: There Should Be More Than One Voice In A Healthy Society They Documented the Coronavirus Crisis in Wuhan. Then They Vanished. PEPSI: PEPSI ENGAGEMENT RING BY VAYNERMEDIA ‘The Batman’ Camera Test Reveals First Glimpse of Robert Pattinson in Batsuit Controversial film The Hunt is daring you to own the libs — or the right wing — by seeing it Why ‘The Hunt’ Is Finally Being Released… with a Very Different Marketing Campaign I saw 'The Hunt,' which had its release pulled over the summer. It's deranged and extremely violent but is not about liberals hunting 'deplorables.' WATCH: FloFilz - Blue Orchard Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:22 It's Tuesday, February 18th, 2020. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.K.A. Potatoes O'Brien And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray Mr. Miles Gray A.K.A. Thanks for smoking weed with Miles Gray At the DC Live Show
Starting point is 00:02:39 That was such a fun time Everything was great. We were after it. Natalie McGill killed it. Oh, my God. The drunken Zeitgang after the show killed it. It's all fantastic. I would say DC was one of the less drunk of the audience.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Well, you know, the difference was there wasn't liquor being served. Okay. When you have beer and wine only, you get beer and wine vibes. People are drinking bread. Yeah, exactly. Versus Brooklyn, Vietnam. Wow. When you have beer and wine only You get beer and wine vibes Yeah exactly Versus Brooklyn, Vietnam Wow Turned up Brooklyn
Starting point is 00:03:11 When you have liquor flying out of the side of the stage You know people start screaming Yeah it was a good time Both shows were a blast This tour has been so fun And it's ongoing. We will be in Minneapolis February 25th at the Parkway Theater
Starting point is 00:03:30 with POS. We will be in Chicago at Sleeping Village with Daniel Van Kirk on February 27th. We will be in Toronto February 28th to close out the month, close out the tour at the Great Hall with Drake.
Starting point is 00:03:46 For tickets, go to dailyzeitgeist.com and go to the live appearances tab for links to the tickets. We are thrilled to be joined with the comedian and journalist who joined us on stage in D.C. She is the talented, the hilarious Natalie McGill. What's up, Natalie? Ah, thank you guys for having me. Thank you for being here. How are you feeling after that show? Feeling pretty good? After experiencing the whole, the vibes? Yeah, that was awesome just to see your whole fan base come out, especially the dude that joined us on stage.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Oh yeah, Crispy Meme Donuchi main came out he was there he was the man the myth the legend in person in the flesh yeah now we need to meet hannah soltis now yeah we'll begin to really put the pieces together aka gods and goddesses but he came on stage joined us played a little game uh i feel like it was not much help to like he actually tweeted me after the show and he was like like thanks for your help in the game i was like i think i gave you all of the wrong answers but i appreciate it yeah yeah he was so sweet it was yeah i like crowd did not help him no god no a lot of wrong a lot of wrong answers being shouted at him. That was Price is Right, for sure.
Starting point is 00:05:08 My favorite thing about these live shows is I'll invite people who kind of listen to the show, are friends with me, just good friends who have lives going on. I don't expect everybody to listen to the show. And then after, it's like, wow, a lot of people came, huh? Yeah. It's weird for people. What the fuck do you after it's like wow like a lot of people came huh yeah it's weird for people i mean it's weird for us to like see our fans so very weird because yeah like we you know we do this and we're in a hotel room right now with four people five people four people and yeah we we're not used to all right i can't tell't tell you, but somebody's going to pop out behind you
Starting point is 00:05:45 in the middle of the show. But yeah, so it's super cool to meet all you guys in person. But yeah, it's also cool to surprise, like my sister-in-law was at the show last night, and she literally said to one of our fans, she was like... To some of the listeners.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Yeah, one of the listeners, she turned around and was like, wait, do you know who these guys are? Like, you know them? Like, have you seen this before? You're here intentionally? Like, you didn't just wander in on the street? Just that surprise. It was just really cold outside?
Starting point is 00:06:16 Yeah. Oh, wow. Shout out to Becky Lee, though. Yeah. It's always good to impress the in-laws. Yeah. And yeah, thank you guys for coming out. Natalie, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
Starting point is 00:06:30 First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about James Carville and Bernie Sanders, just the overall war of words. We're going to talk about some of the wrong heads rolling from the Iowa fuck up. We're going to talk about Trump's heightest attacks on short King Mike Bloomberg. We're going to talk about the ongoing Saturday Night Massacre that Trump is working his way through. We're going to talk about coronavirus. What was Nick's headline that he texted us
Starting point is 00:07:06 last month? Wuhan got you all in check Wuhan got you all in check pretty good wacky promo check in we got a ring that you can propose with that is made of crystal Pepsi that's right we'll explore that ring that you can propose with that is made of crystal Pepsi.
Starting point is 00:07:26 What? That's right. We'll explore that. We'll have to unpack that a little bit more. We'll unpack that later. The Hunt has been uncanceled, that movie that was supposed to be controversial and about liberals hunting deplorables.
Starting point is 00:07:42 We're going to look at that, look at why that might not be exactly what we all thought. And we will look at Robert Pattinson in the Batman suit. He looks like Batman. Looks the part. Yeah. Although I'm going to come with a hot take. All right.
Starting point is 00:07:57 We'll save your scaling. All right. Save your magma level take for then. If I can. Is this magma level? Where is it hot heat? Where is it coming in? Fire?
Starting point is 00:08:07 Super magma extra nuclear meltdown. Oh, also for all ScienceSite gang, tell us what is the hottest material on Earth so we can actually put together a hot take? It's got to be plasma, right? Isn't it? I don't know. What's the sun made of? Hydrogen?
Starting point is 00:08:21 Plasma? I don't know. Who gives a shit? What am I, a sunologist? Hey, Natalie, here's another question for you. Who gives a shit? Hydrogen, baby. 70% hydrogen, 28% helium.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Flaming hydrogen take. Center of the sun. But first, Natalie, we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are uh i would say theme song to the golden girls i like i like tv theme songs or i like old stuff in general like i listen to a lot of the music that my parents listen to i like a lot of old tv so golden girls obviously is one of my favorite shows uh night court is one of my favorite shows also has a really awesome theme song uh well like theme music like there's no lyrics to the night court
Starting point is 00:09:09 yeah i was trying to picture the night court theme song and all i could hear was the law and order it does have a click click at the end of it it's like wait isn't what you were just singing the... I just did Law and Order. Okay, yeah. Hold on, let me just play it right now. Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:34 I remember this. It's a joint. It's awesome. They fucking made this Steely Dan or some shit? Yeah. Wow, the vibes. Also, the thing I love about especially like tv theme songs is just like it shows you like everybody's personality in like 30 seconds it's always like somebody like bumbling with something like that like books fall out of somebody's locker into somebody's face and
Starting point is 00:09:57 then they turn and yeah just missing a cab by a second yeah damn it curb splash water right i know everything i need to know about you all right yeah everybody should have that like on their phone just a 15 second clip of them like their tv theme song where it's just like here's my general vibe i think that should be the new tinder profiles right is reduce your personality to what your like sort of block would be in a old sitcom intro. Was the Golden Girls theme song, Thank You For Being A Friend? Yes, that is the one.
Starting point is 00:10:29 That's a little bit sentimental for that show because the show is just great jokes ripping people apart. Oh, yeah. They rip each other the shreds on that show, especially the mom. Thank you for being a friend. But at the end of the day, it's just a good thing. Yeah, at the end of the day, they love each other.
Starting point is 00:10:45 After calling each other sluts for like three minutes. Well, I mean, Blanche. Yeah. Blanche DeVoe. She earned the moniker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She put in the work. We need to put her name back into the zeitgeist.
Starting point is 00:11:00 You know what I mean? People are, we're still talking too much about sex in the city characters. Yeah, exactly. Blanche is the real what what was why haven't we rebooted golden girls yet because you can't touch yeah but you know how greedy these people are yeah yeah like the the day they do that is they i'm gonna lose my they should just they should just remaster it or something or just deep fake it right you know what i mean get good writers to keep writing episodes but you still have the same faces and people in it oh oh that actually would be really cool that
Starting point is 00:11:31 would be dark but you know what i would watch that were they all widowers um widows widow actually no widows that's right so dorothy's the born is born at um b arthur's character like she was divorced like so she was cheated on after like 38 years of marriage. So she was the only one that wasn't widowed. Everybody else was. Oh, yeah, and her ex-husband was an asshole. Yeah, he was a jerk. He was terrible.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Well, that's a great search history. What is something that you think is overrated? American cheese, especially the single slices. Okay, so one of my old roommates uh american cheese especially the the single slices so okay so here here's what okay so one of my like old roommates uh just became an american citizen about like a month or two ago and his wife one of my really good friends she held like a party like a celebration party for him and one of the things that they actually asked the guest to do was to write down like a piece of advice for a new american or something to keep in mind and so my advice to write down like a piece of advice for a new american or or something to keep in mind
Starting point is 00:12:26 and so my advice to him was like do not feel obligated to buy american cheese for a cookout like it's not going to make you any less patriotic if you get like provolone or something else because it's so bad at least that's just my opinion it's really really bland. It's context cheese. Yeah. You know, I'm never like, it doesn't work on its own. No. You know, you never, it's never, you'd be like, oh, a cheese board. Thank God there's some Kraft Singles next to the Gorgonzola. You know what I mean? Like, it's never like that.
Starting point is 00:12:56 A grilled cheese, fine. Yeah, grilled cheese, yes. It's in the context of that's fine. I don't even like it for grilled cheese, but I do think it's the superior cheese for a cheeseburger. Well, that's the thing. Really? I feel like we're programmed to think that is what should go on a burger at a cook-off. Talking about this program.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Or a cook-off. Or a cook-off, yes. Bay Ridge style. Yeah, I mean, again, it's context. Other than that, yeah, i'm 100 percent like don't and you can get single slices of better cheese yeah it's it's out there it's just right no or refuse the look i don't know or you'd be surprised you go to your deli and have them slice it there the world is well i've never seen like an american cheese loaf i've never seen
Starting point is 00:13:40 somebody like well no i meant like if you want like cheddar because sometimes you buy a pre-packaged it's expensive but if you go to the deli counter and slice it, it's way cheaper. Is that true? It's cheaper? I always thought it was more expensive. If you get a Sargento pre-sliced stuff, that's like four or five bucks or something.
Starting point is 00:13:57 You only get eight slices of cheese. If you don't open the package, you can keep it for a year. I'm always surprised when you buy a bag of shredded cheese, and it's used by, i don't know like 20 30 late 20s yeah it's like late 20s early 30s i can attest to the freshness of that because i used to do um so for my birthday i used to do these like cartoon sandwich birthday parties where i like the idea was to make like our guests could make sandwiches that were as tall as the ones on Scooby-Doo I would like give you all of the materials that you needed to make it all I
Starting point is 00:14:31 just asked you to do was bring booze right and or soda or whatever you want but I will bring everything you need to make and so I would get all those packs of cheese like Sargento like that's the only time I would splurge was like for that but then of course like I would over buy and so there would just be like packs of cheese that was sitting in my fridge for like months but then I was like this still looks good like it was shrink wrapped like I will eat cheese up until the point that
Starting point is 00:14:56 I just cut the whole surface area is covered in the mold off you can just cut the mold off and then it's perfect on the inside actually food scientists if we have any like or, or just any doctors out there, I'm not here to spread any myths. Please reach out to us and let us know. Like, is it okay to eat cheese if you just cut the mold part off?
Starting point is 00:15:14 That doesn't seem like it should be, right? Because that just seems like we're just covering up the visual evidence. Mold generally can't penetrate far into hard and semi-soft cheese, such as cheddar, Colby, parmesan, and Swiss. So you can cut away the moldy part and eat the rest of the cheese, cut off at least one inch around and below the moldy spot. These molds are safe for healthy
Starting point is 00:15:34 adults to eat. For all foods. That's what the Mayo Clinic says. Like bread, I won't fuck with it if it starts getting moldy anywhere. I won't be like, alright, cut that mold off. My mom anywhere. I won't be like, all right, cut that mold off. My mom used to do that. She'll be like, just cut the mold off.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I guess you could batter it up and make it into French toast or something. Well, not the mold. Yeah, cut the mold off. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Cut the mold off and then make French toast out of the mold pieces. We don't treat milk like that where we're like, get the chunks out of there and then drink the rest of it.
Starting point is 00:16:10 It's all bad. It all goes bad at once uh what is something you think is underrated uh the show what the reboot of one day at a time on netflix okay i think that is an underrated thing um so so it's uh like i said i like old stuff right so so it was a reboot of the original one day at a time that was on in the 70s it was like valerie bertinelli mackenzie phillips and it was like a about a single mom raising a single divorced mom raising two teenage daughters and then they did a revamp for netflix right uh where now the family instead of a white family it's a cuban family uh so still a single mom but she has a daughter and a son and the daughter just came out um and then she's like a military vet you know suffering from ptsd is like trying to become like a the daughter is no the um the mom is the mom is wow yeah and so this
Starting point is 00:16:56 was on netflix for for three seasons but like they had to fight like like all good shows on netflix like they had to fight like hey like we need people to like show up and like watch this you know because like if netflix sees this you know we'll get renewed and so it was like a fight every season to get like back on and then netflix ended up dropping them and then but then another network called pop tv ended up picking them up so now they're gonna have a fourth season but i just felt so mad because it's such a good show it's one of those things where i don't binge stuff very often but that was one show where i watched like at least 10 episodes in like one sitting and then i'm like crying in the middle of it because like there's oh like i it's really emotional like it's a really funny show but it's also really emotional especially the the story arc that involves the daughter coming out because
Starting point is 00:17:44 it's a Cuban family. So she ends up celebrating like her quinceanera and not to give it away, like, sorry, spoiler alert for people who are listening, if they want to watch it, but, uh,
Starting point is 00:17:53 skip ahead three minutes, skip ahead three minutes. But, um, yeah, so the, most of the first season revolves around her, uh,
Starting point is 00:17:59 getting ready for a quinceanera. Um, and she's also coming out at the same time, you know, and, her, her dad, you know, cause her mom was divorced divorced like finds out that she's gay and like not a fan of it and so at the quincey uh quinceanera like there's a like a father-daughter dance that like comes up and so she goes out like the announcer is like okay it's time for the father-daughter dance and
Starting point is 00:18:18 she goes out there and her dad is gone oh like he bolted and she's like just standing out there like by herself and then her mom like sees what's happening and then bolted. And she's like just standing out there like by herself. And then her mom like sees what's happening. And then she goes out and she's like, I got you. And she's like dancing with her. And then the entire family comes out on the dance floor and joins her. It was so, I was like on my bed crying. Yeah, that was the finale of the first season.
Starting point is 00:18:41 So it's like there are parts of it are like absolutely hysterical. And there are other parts where I'm just like bawling like in the fetal position is it is it like a three camera sitcom like it's like a on a stage it's like like traditional sitcom right right yeah yeah yeah interesting but yeah but now it's now it's on this new network so but you can watch i mean you can watch it all the old seasons on netflix but if you want to continue watching it now it's on this new network. But you can watch it all. The old seasons on Netflix. But if you want to continue watching it, now it's on Pop. I don't even know if every cable carrier has that. I hope mine does.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I would like to continue watching it. Yeah, Pop on Demand and Pop Go. Both great apps. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Flushable wipes are not really flushable. Flushable wipes are not really flushable. No.
Starting point is 00:19:30 I think you ask any plumber or anybody who deals with septic stuff, they're like, please do not use these things. Really? Okay, so where I work, they have a sign in the bathroom now that was like, please do not flush these items. They're literally screaming at you. and one of them was like baby wipes and really the only difference between baby wipes and flushable wipes is that with flushable wipes you're wiping your own ass and nobody's wiping baby wipes someone else's that's the only difference between flushable
Starting point is 00:19:59 wipes and baby wipes it's the same thing product yeah context it's just the context wiping ass in and so and i feel like it's it's totally a thing product yeah context it's just the context wiping ass in and so and i feel like it's it's totally a big marketing scam because they they know that industry knows that you're not supposed to put that like or flush those and then they put flushable on it to make you think that it's okay it's really not okay oh wow that seems like that should be we should be able to like do a class action lawsuit or plumbers should be able to do a class action lawsuit because yeah you hear those stories about just like the uh water treatment facilities and there's just like giant like fucking trash gyres of flushable wipes and shit just like building up and you know and i want like i want to clean ass as much as anybody else but
Starting point is 00:20:43 if it's gonna mess up somebody's toilet, it could mess up your friend's toilet. If you're at a party and you use it, that's not great either. I use it, but then I go out and bury it in the backyard. That's how I treat. Put it in a fire pit. And then someone's like,
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Starting point is 00:24:59 We're so excited for you to hear our brand new podcast, Senora Sex Ed. Listen to Senora Sex Ed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back. And let's talk about the primary. The primary. Well, we need a drop for that at some point yeah work on it miles yeah okay priming there we go done so there is a feud going on between like a smaller feud between
Starting point is 00:25:41 james carville and bernie sanders but just a larger feud between the uh military industrial cnn cable news dnc industrial complex and bernie sanders just as a candidate so james carville was just out here saying you know bernie sanders is the democratic party needs to take a long look at itself in the mirror in the mirror in the mirror uh and somebody's saying exactly and uh because they need to figure out if they are a party that is going to like pay attention to electability and he is of course using the 90s uh definition of electability which is wall street friendly democrat uh who is centrist and uninspiring and very careful and not going to alienate anybody and still fucking over the poor right still fucking over the poor which is very important and that whole carville mentality is also sort of like we know poor people better than
Starting point is 00:26:49 poor people do right i know the needs of poor people i have not been poor for a minute for quite a time yeah but he's always relying on like consultants and operatives like you know those are the people who really you know know what's going on a complete, like, it's just a dated way of looking at how the electorate works, like how we're even looking at campaigns and things like that. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh,
Starting point is 00:27:13 Sanders was just like, yeah, I mean, he's kind of a political hack. I'm like, I don't, I'm not that worried about what he has to say. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And Carville, uh, said, you say political hack, like it's a bad thing. I kind of like it. Which I feel like was probably cute back in the primary colors days when politics was a game
Starting point is 00:27:36 and we didn't think about the fact that it affected people's lives or at least the mainstream media didn't that I was paying attention to uh and so it was just like you know fun that like you had this fun character on crossfire who was cynical but like fun about his cynicism oh and then he also said but at least i'm not a communist yeah that's that's true at least i'm not a horse face pony soldier why did any why did he think anybody was gonna know that reference yeah yeah but i mean this is a great excuse for any like older person like it's a john wayne line
Starting point is 00:28:18 just say the most racist outlandish shit i guess it tracks tracks. He's going to end up supporting Bloomberg as is the entire DNC. He was all in for Michael Bennett. He thought that was the man to save the Democratic Party. This is how locked in his
Starting point is 00:28:39 takes are. Michael Bennett is my guy. Who? Same with Delaney yeah it just seems obvious to me that like yeah they're they're out of touch with what populism is right like they think populism is just like charting your path like as close to the center as possible. And it's like, no, populism is what Trump won with, that the cable news was not in touch with at all. And we're like, yeah, I'd like to see you try to win on that. And then he did.
Starting point is 00:29:17 But what he ran on, he totally didn't follow through with. And Sanders' actual policies and a lot of Elizabeth Warren's policies are the things that actually follow through on those policies. But again, they seem completely just incapable of understanding those values. It's just because it's so much like,
Starting point is 00:29:41 it's fucking polls and focus groups and like using data. Like there's, it's so much like it's fucking polls and focus groups and like using data like there there's it's such a it's it's lost the humanity aspect of it but i think like the polls seem to indicate that these things are popular they just don't want to admit those things but no but you know i mean you can but they'll even manipulate like the uh like data to just sort of look at it another way to sort of bolster their points. Right. That's what I'm saying. It's just like you can turn the – I guess, yeah, you can always turn the statistics into whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:30:14 What I think is like they're just – the only data sets they use to even figure out what people want is from like just doing this like traditional thing of getting people in a room and taking – like, well, that's what a focus group said. Right. That must be what people want and not really like if you know if you're organizing more you you hear people talk you sort of get another there's another dimension of what people's realities are versus what people say in a focus group which sometimes is reliable other times people will you know you don't know how people how sincere people are being in a focus group i mean it's reliable to an extent but i think to solely rely on that or like just think of like well i know every affluent white voter right my mind and every affluent white voter is always going to do this and just be so rigid about her like i know most working class people or poor folks don't want uh too much progressive change yeah that's just like but these are like very
Starting point is 00:31:06 old opinions that are just sort of not they're not really you know born out of anything real and they're not moving the needle on anything yeah right like stay in the same place right and they're very informed by you know the fact that they all hang out together go to the same like parties in manhattan and you know they like not carville yeah well yeah down down the swamp i'm playing on an old uh jug band with my toad friends i just he's such a character it's so weird even though like his he's completely fallen off like in terms of like being able to to listen to what he says. But yeah, that Kate McKinnon version and just even himself, the way he talks, I can't get enough.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Yeah, Bill Hader's impression of him is one of the funniest damn things. And it was so funny that it completely replaced, in my mind, any real version of him. Let's talk about just how the DNC, Democrats in general, are dealing with the fact that the first act of the primary was a complete fucking mess. Iowa did not go well. The Associated Press, as of this recording, still hasn't called the contest because of discrepancies. As soon as they started doing counts that looked good for Sanders, Tom Perez was like, okay, we need to re-canvas. Enough is enough.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I don't think it was actually out of that, though. It was because there was such a mess. It just seemed coincidental we also need to toss out any process that involves a coin flip like when i remember that i was like wait we do that yeah like all right i guess uh let's flip this coin to decide what the outcome is of this the shit we do to start the super bowl to figure out what team the direction yeah oh um yeah i think you know when you look at everything like from the disastrous app to like the phone lines being jammed like somebody was saying like a bunch of Trump
Starting point is 00:33:12 supporters were also jamming the phone lines too to make it even more difficult for the results to be called in person that like hung up in the middle of the call yeah yeah I mean so so far the only person who's truly taken an an l here is troy price the guy who's the head of the democratic party in iowa who came out that day oh yeah i knew that i knew he was sacrificial lamb when he when they just sent his ass out there as the face of the failure yeah he had the perfect face for it he just looked like a frustrated befuddled yeah and he looked fuck it looked like he was in a bad place yeah he was just like god he was squinting a lot yeah and having to go out there be like what are the results the results are that will give you half
Starting point is 00:33:56 the results in a few hours right what oh great and so he's resigned um and you know i don't really have much of an opinion on that but i do feel like tom perez who's the head of the dnc actually needs to account for some of this like in a very meaningful way if not resign himself to go i mean he's been the leader of the the dnc for three years now and all we've seen during this primary season just messy bullshit rules being changed to accommodate Mike Bloomberg. You know, there's, there needs to be some kind of fresh blood in there because I mean, and this is, this is the hard part, right? It's so entrenched and intertwined with like the big donor class
Starting point is 00:34:36 that before this Keith Ellison was also, uh, you know, possibly going to be the head of the DNC, but it sort of became a proxy war between the Clinton-Obama wing of the party and the more left wing who was backing Ellison. And ultimately Perez won because the money, like, you know, they just didn't want to take a chance on going too progressive because then that means they're like, well, we can't scare off this money pose that just keeps blasting us. And, you know, the Congressional Black Caucus also wants answers from Perez.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Also, they wrote a letter demanding he take some responsibility. They wrote, quote, as chairman of the Democratic National Committee, you bear some responsibility for what happened in Iowa and for the consequences. And then they later went on to say that it's unacceptable problems uh that happened in iowa and it quote undermined public confidence in the primary process which is absolutely has and it only adding to the fracturing within the party because the second the results come in weird contested that immediately allows all the campaigns to start fucking you know thinking up ideas who's who's, who's plotting against me, what the fuck's going on,
Starting point is 00:35:46 pointing fingers. And it sows doubt in like voters' minds. Yeah. They just think like, oh, another Trump is going to happen. It's just bad. It's just bad across the board to have something like this.
Starting point is 00:35:54 When you just want to, you just need the process to be clean. I go in, I say who I want, then I get the results. Not this weird math, fucking up the formulas, then having to re-canvas.
Starting point is 00:36:05 And it's just, it's really taking a lot of momentum out of the party trying to go into November. But, you know, the other thing is just sort of like the way the DNC has been operating, they're just not interested. They're just interested in maintaining the power they have. That like real power grab, like to take more power back, isn't really in the DNA of the DNC at the moment. And that's that's why we're going to lose elections, because it's uninspired. It's just sort of like, well, let's maintain.
Starting point is 00:36:35 It's not like let's fucking let's do something more. It's like, no, let's really wild about this is buzzfeed reported that the dnc had secretly there was like a you know golden parachute escape package right for tom perez and his two top like lieutenants and then once the story got out uh they were like oh yeah never mind so right so problem with that yeah right um but that just shows you like they were looking at like well you know if shit goes south like at least i'm taken care of when I get out of here. And like, that's no. See, that's like every CEO of like any company that's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Yeah. That just needs to go away. Period. Let me cash smoke bomb myself out of here. Thank you. Got the bag. Yeah. Wild.
Starting point is 00:37:22 All right. Trump has added a new group that he is discriminating against and it is short kings uh like mike bloomberg like uh michael savage uh no no he's not going after michael savage no like but he's alienating well michael savage is a short K. Is he? I think so. Isn't that what he's saying? No, no, no, no, no. He's just saying. So, I mean, Trump loves to go after people's height and just in general, things that people can't control.
Starting point is 00:37:56 You know what I mean? That's his favorite thing to do. He did it with Marco Rubio in the primary. Then he did it with Bob Corker, but he did it with two Ds to make it more colloquial. Oh, he was like little Bob Corker with two D's. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:10 And now Bloomberg, which I think you said, what was he calling him? Like a five foot four dead energy? A five foot four massive dead energy. They're getting like real, I feel like they have people writing their insults for them because a 5'4 mass of dead energy is a lot more
Starting point is 00:38:27 descriptive. More sophisticated than what I'm used to hearing. When he speaks out loud and in person he seems to have a 100 word vocabulary. He'll use a writer's room just for his insults. The room's improving
Starting point is 00:38:44 based on this one michael bloomberg was like you're a carnival barking like yeah it's like all right it just seemed like a very wordy and overwritten yeah yeah well he's claiming five four uh but uh bloomie has a doctor's note that said he's five seven that's okay so get the record straight okay um but yeah so michael savage who's you know one of the president's rah-rah radio personality likes to you know i'll get get the president's back he does not like this um he says it's a bad move because maybe racism so what he said is stop to talk about trump he says stop attacking bloomberg's height this is what he tweeted.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Quote, it's a losing position and millions of Hispanic immigrants vote. Many are shorter than Bloomberg. Okay. That's way worse than him being short. No. His take is. He took it to a whole other level. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:39 You're going to lose the Hispanic vote by talk because they're all short. So if you talk about him being short, that will turn them off because that's the problem. That's what's going to turn them off. On the other hand, my instincts were not totally wrong. Guess how tall Michael Savage is. 5'7"? 5'4".
Starting point is 00:39:57 This is coming from a personal place. So then he used racism as a smoke screen for his own ego. Yes. Right. He's like, because I'm fine with my height. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:08 I'm fine. But they might not be. Yeah, because the strategy here is really not clear. It's a losing. Also, I'm saying your racism is a losing position. His show. Or maybe it's a winning position. I used to hear his show just ambiently in Missouri when I lived there. And it is the most poisonous, like straightforward,
Starting point is 00:40:28 like just makes Rush Limbaugh seem like he's Marc Maron. Like just, yeah. Whoa. Next level shit. I mean, I've only heard clips, but yeah, I didn't grow up listening to him like you. I didn't grow up listening to him. This was like 10 years ago when i lived there with my wife we uh
Starting point is 00:40:48 didn't or like it would be on just randomly on like any place you were in yeah basically and his voice is very strange so you would just it stands out and then you listen to what he's saying it's it is hateful yeah well i mean look at his take here just and then also like on like reddit people were like being like yeah this is stupid trump's talking about short people there's like a whole short incels like short cells subreddit and uh but then they were even talking about like is bloomberg even short enough to be like in the short person conversation it's it's caused all kinds of talk amongst the the world but yeah i mean i think also just again with for trump sort of reinforcing this like toxic stereotype that
Starting point is 00:41:31 you have to be large of stature to be a leader or someone yeah is this is ridiculous also coming from somebody who wears lifts to get taller sir does yes is that fully factual because i thought he wasn't he six one custom orthotic no look at their their pictures of him is he like will smith six one where he's actually like five ten but like because he's famous he gets to make up his height uh no i mean he's said in his like uh like physical he's like six two or three isn't he um but when you look at him there's plenty of photos standing next to people who are 6'1". Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:06 He is the same height, sometimes shorter. Right, right. And then a lot of the times they say when you see him walk, like have this weird posture where he's leaning forward because of his heeled shoes.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Right, okay. But again, but don't ask Trump about his height, baby. He's fine. I don't think he's short. I do think they're famous. Like every famous person you see in hollywood is shorter than they yeah are presented to you
Starting point is 00:42:32 in the public right well because that's just sort of the stereotype that they like to reinforce it's like you can't be five seven and tough yeah you got six feet five foot three no he's actually tall like they're tall ones but uh no but it's just but it it shows that his insecurity around height and how much that matters to trump too because when he meets other leaders he likes to put on his big boy shoes oh right and like to try and tower over them literally likes to like just pull them around like a rag doll like that's he's he's a simple man with simple pleasures uh let's talk about just another way that the trump administration has taken everything that was historically uh corrupt about the nixon administration and just been like that's that's nothing yeah we can turn
Starting point is 00:43:22 that all the way up shit so the saturday night massacre was when nixon started firing people who were uh part of the watergate investigation and part of like you know making it hot for him and trump got acquitted for doing things that were far worse And now he is just doing a long, slow motion, fully public Saturday Night Massacre where he's just firing and punishing anybody who had anything to do with pissing him off. there's jesse lu who actually just resigned um she was working at doj and was looking like you know she was handpicked i believe by trump to look into the actions of former fbi director andrew mccabe and then uh you know she was suddenly like off the uh she was like off a lot of these cases out of nowhere right because she also said like in her in her investigations like not there's nothing untoward that happened with andrew mccabe um then she's taken off these cases like she was also in charge of like stone roger stone's case flynn's case uh the day she
Starting point is 00:44:36 was kicked off those cases doj recommended that flynn get minimum jail to minimal jail time okay because before that she was like leading the charge against him um but they're like it's all good because actually we're actually the reason she's off those is we're shifting her to treasury to the treasury department so she could be an undersecretary that you know handles terrorism and financial crimes i mean that is still a big job yeah that's a huge job but wait no because right after trump pulled her nomination and was like no that's not happening so she resigned she's like this is an absolute like this is what they want you know what i mean like that's how this is how the punishments are happening the other thing came from elaine
Starting point is 00:45:14 mccusker who showed up a lot during the impeachment investigation um because she was at the pentagon and she was like directly interacting with people in the white house like when they were saying to hold up shit she was like i'm'm speechless, was one of her responses to them, holding up the aid. Because she was basically trying to make sure no one breaks the law. She's like, we can't do this. This is not right. And was told that she has to.
Starting point is 00:45:39 So she was basically up for the comptroller and chief financial officer position at the Pentagon. Again, the White House is going to probably pull her nomination to do that also. Everybody was up for all of these things. Yeah. And it's like, what were they up for? Pull it. And it's just, you know, all the, you know, retribution, retaliation is playing out. I mean, we talked about Vindman and other people as well who have uh unceremoniously kicked out um and he was even asking like well maybe the
Starting point is 00:46:08 military will punish him i don't know uh i mean it's full-on authoritarian yeah 100 yeah if he could get a firing squad he would probably really 100 yeah he'd probably create some like weird like jail island like a new australia yeah penal colony who was saying like oh we didn't fire vietnam because of that we're not like some sort of third world banana republic i mean it was like somebody who works in the trump administration sure whose name you recognize and it's like yeah wait do you not realize you are part of that that's directly retaliating you are doing that exact thing but i guess the cognitive dissonance over there is just so intense that it's just basically like, they're haters.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Literally over there. You're pointing to the White House out the window. That they're just haters. And that's like, well, we gotta get rid of them because they're haters. It's not because we're looking at it objectively where they followed like a subpoena and honored the law and did
Starting point is 00:47:04 what their duty was because they are you know they have a duty to the constitution the country but no no he doesn't want people who follow the law that's yeah and that's what's scary is like eventually as these people leave or resign it's like there's just going to be more shit heels installed in these positions and the full i mean it's already i mean with with bill barr at the head of the doj like it's already pretty much there um so it's hey you you hate to see it you really fucking do it's really disheartening yeah all right let's move on to the coronavirus so one thing that i just wanted to say out front because i think this is something that I
Starting point is 00:47:45 is definitely something I had been researching and I might have even said it, like just trying to compare it to the flu, to influenza in terms of how deadly it is to like if you catch it, essentially, like on a one to one basis. I was very curious about that. And the answer is basically, we don't know. But there were a lot of articles in the, I think it was probably like a week or a week and a half ago that were like, don't worry so much about this. It's just a sensationalist story. It's no more deadly than the common flu. And if you live in America, the flu is more of a danger to you. And that's actually like a very dangerous thing in general to do because it's just like apples and oranges.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Uh, the coronavirus is something that we don't understand at all yet, and it's spreading really fast, and we have nothing to combat it. So somebody wrote an article where they were like, yeah, you can't compare the two because it's a whole other thing, and outbreaks of new pathogens is its own issue and in fact world health organization funding has been cut for that recently and so we are underprepared which is leading to this being a bigger problem than it needed to be that's what i was going to say like
Starting point is 00:49:19 i used to work for literally around the corner from here the american public health association and like this was before the Trump administration. And we always talked about how like chronically underfunded, like public health programs are like across the nation. And so now you have this outbreak that's happening. And I'm just like, do we, do any of our local public health departments even have the resources? Like they didn't have the resources when I was working there.
Starting point is 00:49:44 And I was there from like 2012, 2016. So I can't even imagine what it's like you know on a state level or local level you know if you have one of these outbreaks happening in your right especially with like these proposed budget cuts too for like health and like the cdc it's like yeah in the middle of a global health crisis oh really smart yeah and i think the other thing, too, is like it's, you know, the approaches that they're using are kind of like old school, like quarantining and things like that. Yeah, I mean, that's what we've got. Yeah, from the 1800s.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Yeah. You know what I mean? Just like put people on a ship. Right, exactly. And I think, too, that what happens when it gets to some of the surrounding countries like Myanmar or like the Philippines and places like that who do not have robust health systems and what are their resources to handle something like that there as well. So that's where there's so many moving pieces to this that are just absolutely, you know, they can be a little
Starting point is 00:50:40 unnerving. Yeah. I mean, the article was pointing out that this outbreak has grown from 282 on january 21st when we first started talking about it on the show to 31,211 on february 7th when that article that was making the point like this is too dangerous you can't compare to the flu and currently there's 64 000 a week later yeah so it went from it's just growing exponentially i mean that's what like this is well recently going viral means right yeah recently though too they they did broaden like the sort of diagnosis yeah uh checklist to really make sure they were like as safe as possible but yeah i mean but that's what you need to do if you're really trying to sort of get get control of this yeah and wasn't there like a like a wide like a pretty
Starting point is 00:51:29 much like a disinformation campaign in china like they were basically trying to hide the fact that this was even yeah so that's something that's kind of scary there's so there was this doctor a 34 year old doctor in china who was one of the first people to spread news about the illness back in december 30th he was like this is really bad we don't know what it is and it's like very contagious being passed from person to person uh we thought you could only get it from like an animal basically yeah um it got back to the government they called him in and made him sign a letter that said he was guilty of rumor mongering. And then he died of the disease or quote of the disease,
Starting point is 00:52:14 depending on your perspective. But there's also all these people who have had videos go viral. That's a bad way of putting it of you know china doing like really drastic things to try and cut down on the outbreak and you know quarantining people and you know they've just taken videos on their phone and those videos have gone viral hospital yeah something like from the ground up and those people are now disappearing the people who are like getting the word out and people are you know in a situation like this that's something to consider in a situation where there's a viral
Starting point is 00:52:56 outbreak it gives the like an authoritarian government that doesn't actually you know that is has dark uh motivations it gives them cover to be like, no, we just quarantined those people. Yeah, they're in quarantine. That's like, they can just do whatever, like China can already do whatever the fuck they want. But like this gives them extra, you know, in the chaos of a viral outbreak, it gives you extra cover to just treat your citizens however you want to so yeah it's really scary and like you said the surrounding countries that don't have the infrastructure that china has uh it's pretty we just need to pay attention for and like help them as much as we can as as this continues to develop i think
Starting point is 00:53:47 or wilbur ross is probably there like it's but it's pretty good for the world for american competition yeah because it has started to actually take uh like disrupt things like because you know the china is the second largest economy in the world they're like vital to the supply chains of nearly every industry. Yeah. And that's also caused a lot of issues. Their losses are a gain. Their losses are a gain because suddenly we'll revive the manufacturing sector here.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Global tourism has taken a $80 billion hit. And it will take a year to rebound from the effects of the corona virus outbreak just like to this point like not you know that's assuming that it just went away right now also i don't even know if it's even worth it like cruise ships are already a bastion for disease yeah like before the corona the cruise industry is taking a massive hit like they're they're probably going to be some companies that go under just because yeah people already were worried about getting sick on cruise ships and now also wealthy people are no longer flying commercial so that's it's good to know as i'm about to get on a plane as we're all about to get on a plane the the rich are like you you are flying commercial oh you trying to get sick um that's
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Starting point is 00:59:12 Listen to Señora Sex Ed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. and we're back and uh let's just run through a couple quick stories uh there is an engagement ring that is made of crystal pepsi uh is this picture real mile this is a real picture this is the crystal pepsi engagement ring okay there started a they started like a competition last week where you could have the opportunity to have your perfect proposal uh and win this engagement ring which has a one and a half carat lab grown diamond made out of yes well you know it's lab grown baby so it's not like a it's you know it's made in a lab. It's not a conflict diamond or something or mined.
Starting point is 01:00:07 And it's made out of real crystal Pepsi. And I'm like, what the fuck does that even mean? Apparently, what they do is they take legit crystal Pepsi, they boil it down to its most basic or just reduce it to its most basic carbon form, and then they turn that to a powder. Then that's added to the process when they're lab-growing the diamond, which is using a bit of natural diamond and carbon and heat and pressure it's i don't know but somehow it has crystal pepsi infused in it it's not gonna give you liquid you're gonna be like oh i honestly
Starting point is 01:00:35 thought it was like a rock candy ring i was hoping to like this stuff you make when you're this thing is blinging baby it looked like a real it looks like a real diamond i mean it absolutely is yeah it's it's it's it's just the process is different of how it arrives there um so how like they're you know you can get into it they want people to like submit their proposal ideas and the more out there it is like you might get blessed with this ring now i'm not sure what the result will be if you get on one knee and you open a box with a crystal pepsi logo on it yeah the box there's a white ring box yeah it's a white ring box and when you open it the surprise is that under the lid there is obviously the ring but then above that the crystal pepsi logo honestly i'm not i feel like the response you'd
Starting point is 01:01:25 get from proposing with that is fuck no yeah right um but i don't know i mean unless like your relationship is based on a shared love of crystal pepsi yeah then maybe this is for you please record that for us so we can watch it so we can go viral because i want to see somebody i would love for the person who wins that when they put all this money in this promo that the person says no. Right. And says, this is absurd. Your love is effervescent. They have like, right now, playing behind them.
Starting point is 01:01:56 There's no tomorrow. I mean, but I love Crystal Pepsi. That was such a fun time. Yeah. Those were the days. Those were the days. Those were the days. Was that when the Michael Jackson Dangerous album came out? I feel like I associate those times.
Starting point is 01:02:16 I thought Crystal Pepsi was a couple years after Dangerous came out. Dangerous was 91, right? Okay. But I thought Crystal Pepsi was maybe like 94. Crystal Pepsi. Or am I thinking of Zima? 94. Wait, no. It was discontinued in 94 no it was discontinued in 94 debuted in 92 yeah okay
Starting point is 01:02:29 about the same time yeah I'm like yeah Van Halen Van Halen 2 yeah man I remember those times very fondly Dayton Ohio shout out to Dayton Ohio that's where I live alright let's talk about
Starting point is 01:02:45 robert pattinson as the batman he you know a lot of people were like what the fuck is he gonna the guy from twilight yeah that's y'all need to see good time yeah also it's like it's called acting right you know that's he's not a affected vampire but if you haven't seen him in anything other than that i could see people being because he's like real affected vampire. But if you haven't seen him in anything other than that, I could see people being, because he's like real like kind of scrawny and like moody and like, oh, I'm so conflicted about. But he's a really good actor now.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Yeah, there was a screen test footage that came out of him in the suit. In a red light. Yeah, like they showed a little bit of the new logo. In a photography room. Yeah, like development room with the red light. I mean, that fucking chin, bro. The chin is making it work.
Starting point is 01:03:35 You can't have a weak chin with that suit. He was recently rated with a bunch of mathematic equations drawn onto a photograph of him. He was rated as like the most symmetrically beautiful man I have a question
Starting point is 01:03:51 does like his he doesn't have lips like he or he like barely has lips he has very thin
Starting point is 01:03:59 little lips that's something that I let me look at him I think is not a good thing. I don't want to base it off of this photo. I see it in this photo. Let me look at some more.
Starting point is 01:04:11 They're there. They're not like Kenneth Branagh lips. No lips. They're receding in some photos. The top lip could use some love. Right. Is that just not a thing people care about? Clearly, you like a full- men? Well clearly you like a full
Starting point is 01:04:25 lipped Batman. I like a full lip I like a full lipped human You want a Michael Keaton full lip Does Michael Keaton have good lips? I just notice lips when they're not there I don't notice Oh so it's more like a threshold it has to reach Yeah he has good lips
Starting point is 01:04:40 Look at Keaton's lips Yeah his are pretty full Yeah he looks like he injects like i know he does it because i don't know a lot of dude actors who do that but i mean i don't know that's not like that different comparatively yeah i don't know that top lip isn't i'm uh he's not turning heads with that top lip i notice lips and eyebrows i think more than most people do those are things I pay attention to.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Well, then do not look at Michael Keaton's eyebrows now. Yeah. Avoid them. All the way up to his hairline. Burn them off in a grill accent.
Starting point is 01:05:14 You look surprised, Michael. I know, I just turned them on too high again. Yeah, I mean, this will be,
Starting point is 01:05:20 I'm really interested in this cast that they have for this. But yeah, the only time we'll tell like what the voice is gonna be like because that that's like one of the main things it's like when you put the suit on what how gravelly do you get yeah is he gonna be like hey i'm batman what's up don't be alarmed guys just a cool guy like everybody else i might be a billionaire um i thought affleck had a good batman boy like
Starting point is 01:05:47 affleck was a fine batman he was just in bad batman movies like he i just didn't i yeah it didn't like he just like felt like a fine choice i watched batman versus superman and i fell asleep immediately and i wasn't even high or nothing it was so bad it was weird but yeah i mean i didn't have a i never had a problem it just didn't capture my interest and almost like ben affleck as batman just felt like okay that kind of makes sense at least with robert pattinson i'm like what's what is this guy gonna do yeah so maybe there's that advantage for this i mean yeah when we put like actor reactors in as Batman, that usually works out pretty well. Because Christian Bale was...
Starting point is 01:06:28 He was totally overqualified to be Batman. Some people hate his voice. People hated the Bale voice. I just re-watched... I think it was the third... Batman... Or Dark Knight Rises. And his voice jumps out at you.
Starting point is 01:06:41 You're like, wait, that's kind of... What the fuck, bro? That's kind of what I would do if i was like joking like right but he you know he's making strong choices like a frat bro batman yeah exactly yeah it's like it's like you know like like a cartoon dog or something it's like right that really is McGruff. Don't fuck around with Grindr. All Bane had to do was say, all right, McGruff. And then Bane was like,
Starting point is 01:07:10 I'm going to take an inside the actor's studio approach with my character choice. Yeah. Bane is great. Bane going from Ledger's Joker to Bane, those are two great villains right in a row. Nailed it. You love Bane, huh? Oh, Bane. Those are two great villains right in a row. Nailed it. You love Bane, huh?
Starting point is 01:07:25 Oh, Bane. What a performance. Such great acting without the mouth from Tom Hardy. He truly does not want us to see his mouth when he acts. All right. And then finally, we talked months ago, I think back in September, about the fact that there was this movie from Damon Lindelof
Starting point is 01:07:47 coming out called The Hunt. Damon Lindelof, who has since this story just completely crushed his reboot of The Watchmen, or of Watchmen. What is it? Watchmen. Just Watchmen. Watchmen. Yeah. just watchman watchman yeah like this called i called it i called the discman uh the discman a discman i thought you're just doing a bit i i noticed people were like reacting weirdly and heads were turning in the audience yeah what the fuck did he say of the yeah anyways so that movie has been uncanceled. Wait, it was a thing? It was just a weird, like, dark fantasy of... So the way that the story was released back in September described it as a movie about liberals hunting, quote, deplorables. And that does sound controversial.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Yes. And like the sort of thing that, I don't know. It would be interesting to see Hollywood making that point since Hollywood, not always great at dramatizing people who don't share their political views. I'd be interested to see. Well, because in that one, the deplorables are the heroes, right? Right.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Who have to fight back against. Right. Right. That's what you would assume. But apparently, so they're re-releasing it and like leaning on how controversial it is. They're calling it on this poster, the most talked about movie of the year is one nobody's seen yet. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:09:19 And they have all these quotes like, it's trying to- It's not provoking. Yeah. It's trying to destroy our culture uh but it's actually apparently not what we thought it's apparently not really politically partisan it's more about a conspiracy theory that gets away from people uh like a rich lady texts her friend something joking about like how they should hunt deplorables and then there's like a q anon conspiracy that gets going about like based on that text and then
Starting point is 01:09:53 it like just run gets away from them it's like a game of telephone yeah it's a game of telephone that then turns into like actually people being hunted somehow oh so it's not just more like an elevated version of The Quiet Place? Right. Is that what that movie was? Which one? What's the Krasinski one? Yeah, The Quiet Place.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Yeah, yeah, where that one was a little more vague, but maybe being like, don't raise your voice because then the spooky people get you. This one was like, yeah, man, the elites are hunting the deplorables. But I like that it's taking this sort of more, I thought it was just aggressively like, those are the stakes. Right. It's a world where rich, so it's taking this sort of more, I thought it was just aggressively like, those are the stakes.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Right. It's a world where rich people are hunting working people for a sport. Yeah. I mean, they've made that movie before, Surviving the Game with Ice-T. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Hard Target with John Club Van Damme. Or just having a job here in this country. But apparently, yeah, it's just, it's not what we all thought it was um and i'll be interested because now damon lindelof i i liked season two of leftovers quite a bit and then now watchman is uh really made me think he's he's kind of a. So I'll be interested to see what he comes with. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:08 I mean, it seems, I don't know. I need to see like a trailer to kind of understand how it's being presented. They just did a trailer. So we can watch that and get back to you guys. All right. Well, this has been so much fun, Natalie. Where can people find you, follow you?
Starting point is 01:11:24 You can follow me uh on twitter you can follow me at at natalie s mcgill uh on instagram i'm at hoot holler snap h-o-o-t h-o-o-h-o-l-l-e-r-s-n-a-p my original twitter handle was at little night owl that is why there was owl owl references and stuff oh really uh yeah and uh is that a watchman no actually i just i like to stay up really late so that was why i went with that initially but then i had to change it to my name um then uh and my website is nataliemcgill.com uh and also uh i am a correspondent on-air correspondent and writer for the show Redacted Tonight so if you want to catch me there you can catch it at youtube.com slash redacted tonight
Starting point is 01:12:11 and we have free tapings in DC if you are in DC and would like to see me perform live or at least a video of me you can check tickets out at leecamp.com slash RSVP. And they're free. All right. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes.
Starting point is 01:12:32 So this tweet is from a New York comedian named Caitlin Reese. A really hilarious comic. I met her late last year. And I've seen her on a couple of visits since I've been up there. And she, her handle is at the Caitlin Reese. And on February 12th, she wrote, it's okay to be alone on Valentine's Day, but get your shit together for President's Day.
Starting point is 01:12:56 My only form of patriotism is chanting USA mid-coitus. That's great. I highly enjoy that. Miles, where can people find you? Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey, and also my other podcast, 420 Day Fiance, for any 90 Day Fiance fans out there.
Starting point is 01:13:16 This show is a beautiful mess. Some tweets I like from Reductress again. This one says, Woman sniffing every candle in store for sense of control. Oh my god. I like scented candles.
Starting point is 01:13:35 You know what I mean? Sometimes I'll find myself in a place where there are candles and I do notice there are people who just have to know everything. You got to. So you know what? Take your control.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Sniff every candle. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. Anna Dresden, former Reductress writer, former Cracked writer, now SNL writer, tweeted, You know Joker is crazy because he paints his tongue! Three exclamation points. And then Danielle Radford tweeted, The devil works hard, but Josh Gad's management works harder. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien.
Starting point is 01:14:08 You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we write out on my own. This one is a little more instrumental hip hop for people. This is from Flo Fills, F-L-O-F-I-L-Z.
Starting point is 01:14:34 It's called Blue Orchard. Again, great music, just a vibe out to no lyrics. Just nice, jazzy, sample-based beats for you to get on to. So coincidental. I love great music. Oh, dude. Looks like my sample-based beats for you to get on to. So coincidental. I love great music. Oh, dude. Looks like my favorite kind. You should hang out sometime.
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