The Daily Zeitgeist - CUE: CONSPIRACY THEORIES, Deplorable Heroes 8.13.19

Episode Date: August 13, 2019

In episode 453, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Billy Wayne Davis to discuss Dunkin Donuts bringing Pumpkin Spice out early, Jeffrey Epstein's suicide, falcons chasing away seagulls in Ocean City, another possible nuclear explosion in Russia, Jason Blumhouse's The Hunt film no longer being released, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. Dunkin’ decrees autumn begins August 212. Before Jail Suicide, Jeffrey Epstein Was Left Alone and Not Closely Monitored3. In Jeffrey Epstein Suicide, Barr Criticizes ‘Failure’ by Manhattan Jail4. Eyes in the skies: Birds of prey help scare away Ocean City’s aggressive gulls5. U.S. Officials Suspect New Nuclear Missile in Explosion That Killed 7 Russians6. Blumhouse plays the most dangerous game in the trailer for The Hunt 7. Ads Pulled for Gory Universal Thriller 'The Hunt' in Wake of Mass Shootings (Exclusive)8. Trump criticizes Hollywood amid controversy over political satire ‘The Hunt’9. Universal cancels ‘The Hunt’ release in wake of mass shootings and Trump scrutiny10. WATCH: Weval - Someday (Official Video) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 95, Episode 2 of Dirt Daily Science Geist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck Coke Industries. And hey, also, fuck Fox News. It's Tuesday, August 13th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Now I got to check my notes, footnotes, lick off to some more quotes.

Hey, Miles Gray, only so much we can say. Jack, get back, just like before act cracked. Notes, more more quotes everybody check footnotes yeah a little off beat there but not at all what are you talking about I was fucking on that thing

you were using polyrhythms I was locked in and that is courtesy of at 345 AM I was using polyrhythms I'm glad you appreciated that. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Drake. So you're the boomer of the Chiba, baby. So why don't you chill with me?

And also an AKA from at 345 AM. Yo, who is this new kid on the scene? I don't know. Wide awake, the avatar is frightened. It looks like, you know, look, if you're in the lab, just coming out with an AKA. So be it. 3.45 a.m. Is that a reference to something?

Is that when you were born? Quarter to four. Quarter to four. No, I don't know. No, I was born, I think. I have no idea. Maybe it's when I was born no i was born i think i have no idea maybe that's when i was born i was born well the first time you know when like you find out like a rising sign for astrology like it's what time you're born and then you figure that out whatever i remember i asked my

mom like the first time i heard about it she's given me like four different times every subsequent time i asked so that's how i know like i don't even know who the fuck i am and i don't know what astrology is i just know that i was born at an inconvenient time is the one thing that I know that's what you were told woke yeah woke my mom up uh well we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the very faces on Mount Zeitmore he is a hilarious comedian by the name of Billy Wayne Davis hey you guys hey man that was good you guys are getting all the singing and Zeitmore. He is a hilarious comedian by the name of Billy Wayne Davis. Hey, you guys. Hey, man.

That was good. You guys are getting all the singing. Yeah, yeah. No, it was amazing. What did you think when you were guest hosting? How did we do that? I don't remember us singing. I love that part because that was the only part I was worried about. I'm not going to do the singing thing. And we just didn't do it,

so it didn't even come up. No, no. It's really up to the guests'm not going to do this thing. And then we just didn't do it, so it didn't even come up. No, no, it's really up to the guests what they want to do. Yeah, and I didn't feel pressured. It was like a nice first date, really. This is a good dude. I listened to the last episode, today's episode, or yesterday's episode with Lacey, and immediately wanted to retire ever doing AKs again

because her AK was so fire. You should have seen the rehearsals. There were rehearsals. Oh. And I was a full-on stage mom where when she messed up, I stopped the instrumental and I said, we're going from the beginning. Wow.

If you don't do it perfect all the way through, we stop the moment there's a mistake and we go to the top. Because there's a rhythm to it. Well, yeah. And if you fuck up, and that's the thing I learned just from playing trumpet as a kid, my first trumpet teacher, whenever i would play a solo the second i made a mistake i started from the top yeah yeah and then that's just a way to you know good way to memorize rap verses too i

use that same device to memorize when you write something do you keep writing the same sentence over and over until you get it right or do you just get everything out and then go back over it what do you mean like just like a stream go back over it? What do you mean? Just like a stream of consciousness type thing? Well, like if you're writing a script or something like that. Oh, no. Because that's like two distinct ways to go about it. Yeah, no, I don't think I took my writing seriously enough

to develop a proper way to do it. Yeah. That's very honest. Yeah. Look, I'm – You know what it is. Most people would be like, well, my process is – I'm like know what it is most people will be like well yeah I'm like Tim Robbins oh can I see some absolutely yeah well he had a thing where he's like I stare

at a blank cursor oh real like it comes like he doesn't type anything like I there was a there was a time when I was reading a bunch of other people's like processes I think he just wants quiet yeah right he's like no this is my process yeah it's like you've been looking at the cursor for like four hours straight hot shit it's great tim robbins the actor yeah he's a writer yeah he i mean that uh one movie he made about a hot sucker proxy nah the one that he wrote that was like a mockumentary about a politician. Oh, yeah. That movie's great. Yeah, well. Anyways. I think I read it.

I agree. It was on HBO. Yeah. Yeah. I don't remember the name, but. I think it's like called Bob Thomas or some shit. Anyways. Bob Thomas.

I am, you know, back. Happy to be here. Thank you. We have a guest right back in the rhythm. And Billy Wayne, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we are going to take our listeners through a couple of things we're talking about today. Oh, shit. The thing that's on everyone's mind.

I'm so excited. Dunkin' Donuts has announced when they're bringing pumpkin spice season back. They're treating themselves like they're God. We're going to talk about the Seagull Wars. We're going to talk about a gentleman by the name of Jeffrey Epstein. There we go. The first two things you said, I was like, stop it. Just stop.

That new movie where a bunch of elites hunt depl deplorables all of that yeah plenty plenty more uh but first billy wayne we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are i got a email from my wife about uh this hotel we're staying at in december for a friend's wedding and I just Googled what it was. Because I saw the price, and I was like, well, that seems... Impossible. Is it a house?

Is that for the presidential seat? It's not a house. No? But the grounds are nice and stuff. What area? Palm Springs. Okay. Okay.

I'll leave it there, so people don't know where you're at. Yeah. And I've never really done anything there. Yeah. So it's just like that old hollywood and it really is like the grounds are like old and you can tell like if you didn't know about stuff you'd be like this is impressive i know where you're i know what you're talking about

yeah so it's like it's there's some cool stuff there it's like all boutique stuff yeah you're like oh and then there's a resort fee and you're like you motherfuckers resort fee well that includes your wi-fi and up to two color prints yeah and you use the ping pong table i mean palm springs fight everyone here are there springs in palm springs because like it seems to me like a place that shouldn't exist it's just like carved into the desert and when you walk outside you can hear like the city just being it sounds like a city that is on like a respirator. Well, I know fucking air conditioning,

just electricity that's required to just keep it livable. Or even when you see people on the street, like when it's full on Palm Springs heat. And I'm like, wow. Yeah. This is December. Humans have adapted to walk the streets.

Yeah. December. Yeah. Yeah. But they do have hots, they have actual hot springs in Palm Springs. So I know that there's a reason for it to exist.'s a reason for the season uh what is something you think is overrated overrated the internet hey fuck the internet yeah i just think as a as a tool we're

misusing it i may have said this before on here but i do think like every time i get on it like i'm like i'm not using this correctly. I'm using it to feel worse about something. It is. Yeah, and then the information I'm getting and putting in my brain is pointless. It's like, how much does a helicopter cost? Oh, wow. Are we doing well?

No, I'm not. That's the thing. I'm not doing helicopters. I'm just curious, and that's where I look. How much does a MiG cost? Not that much as far as MiGs go. Oh, really? What is a MiG?

The Russian fighter jet? Yeah, you can get one for under a million, close to a million bucks. Oh, really? That's pretty good. What about a helicopter? Depends on the type of helicopter. You can get like, they're pretty affordable ones, like 150 grand. Oh.

Yeah. They're like kits. They're pretty cool. Oh, I don't need a kit helicopter. We need one that if shit pops off, we're like, yo, we might have to dust the helicopter off. You want to go in on a helicopter? Like a gunship. No, no.

You want like a Huey from Vietnam? Yeah, or a Blackhawk. I did see. I was talking to my manager on the phone the other day, and while we were talking, the SWAT helicopter circled my neighborhood with the dudes hanging out of it. Oh, really? With the guns? Yeah. All because you didn't pay your power bill?

It was that I did do a mental checklist of all the stuff. Right. Did I do anything? Have I pissed off anyone that's good at the internet? Right, right. And then they just kind of flew away. Do you know what happened? No.

That's the fun thing. I got that Citizen app. That's overrated. How about that? The got that Citizen app. That's overrated. How about that? The Citizen app? Yes, it's overrated. What is that? It's like a scanner, but it's like people use it,

and then there's real-time stuff. But last night, there was a chase down my alley. I watched it happen. Oh, wow. They were chasing a Kia Soul. Did you find out about it and then run over? No. No, I was coming home from doing a set, and I saw the helicopter was,

like I saw the beam, and I was like, that's real close to where I'm going, my home. Right. And I pull in, and I get out, and the helicopter's like real low, and then I watch the beam, and it's going down this alley by my house, and then this Kia Soul just flies by, and then three by and I was like that's pretty cool it's like the Goonies I feel like yeah yeah great opening scene yeah I went in and I went in and my wife was like that helicopter sounded low and I was like hey there a

police car making stuff up again, Billy Wayne. She's like, the baby's asleep. Shut up. I think they were chasing a giant hamster. I'm just amped up. I'm like,

I love LA. Well, that is true. Like, my kids, like, every time there's a helicopter over top,

I'm like, wave to it. Wave to the helicopter. And it's like, actually an oppressive police state that we live in. Wave to the SWAT sniper. Right, exactly.

They're nice guys. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated? The movie Wonderland. It didn't get a lot of heat or press when it came out. It came out a long time ago. I was in college, so like 15 years ago.

Val Kilmore. Val Kilmer. Val Kilmore. Kilmore. Val Kilmer. It's Cal Kilmer. As John Holmes. John Holmes. Val Kilmer. Kilmore. Val Kilmer. It's Cal Kilmer. As John Holmes. John Holmes.

Oh, yeah. And the way they tell the story is amazing. And whoever put it together, it's just one of the best uses of music I've ever seen in a film. Huh. Where it's just the whole thing is wonderful. And the way they shoot L.A. and the way they tell the story. I just think it's it's just terribly underrated because when i bring it up yeah like you guys are like what is it

yeah i remember it coming out and thinking i haven't seen it i've just i remember it coming out and thinking that it was like a movie that got green lit after boogie nights was a sensation because like yeah yeah they were just like another porn like kind of caper thing uh because boogie nights as we know is a caper uh and kind of homage to the valley uh but yeah that's but this is got lisa kudrow she's amazing she plays john holmes actual wife she's a great actress eric basognian am i saying that right eric bogosian bogosian damn it sorry man uh i think those are the main last names i know it's and i'm i'm out here i'm in north hollywood i'm fucked fuck him up every time trying to do the right thing uh he's amazing he

plays this character named eddie nash who's like a real dude in hollywood for a long time he's very scary it's just faze on loves in it. It's really, really great. I was looking when it says the production company. You know who the production company is? MoviePass Films. For Wonderland? It used to be Helios, the parent company,

and they rebranded it as MoviePass Films last year. So when I looked at it, I was like, wait, MoviePass Films? MoviePass has been out here making moves from day one. You know, just in the dark. In the dark. They're the ones who moved it to the West Coast to escape Edison in the first place.

Oh, did you guys see Once Upon a Time? I know, Miles, you saw Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I haven't seen it yet. I want to see it, but I haven't seen it. It's odd. It has a lot of people being like, hey, you want to go eat at that one place? Or what about this place? What about this place?

Have you been to Ben's Chili Bowl? I'm like, yeah, I've been. Okay, what? Just shut up. Or not Ben's Chili, but the other place. El Coyote? No, not El Coyote. Well, I always used to go to Casa Vega, where they do get super fucked up in one scene.

And what's funny is when I was a kid and Brad Pitt was married to Jen Aniston, I used to see them at Casa Vega back then. Yeah. So familiar ground for Brad Pitt. It's almost like a lot of the... Cool. Yeah, man. A lot of the movie is...

That is real LA. We're like, hey, there they are. It feels almost like a museum exhibit because you know he just focused on getting all the details right He's playing real ads from the time And showing you real shows from the time Yeah, I feel like if I were a director like Tarantino I would just be so obsessed with the late 80s

Right That was my thing He loves that era of Yeah He loves doing cocaine You know what I mean? Well, I think that is a lot of Tarantino's movies are based on times when it was like cocaine wasn't bad yet.

Right. Exactly. He'd be like, so we have to do it because that's what they were doing. Or you shoot your wife with a fucking spear gun and it's all good. Yeah. Yeah.

Interesting movie. I don't know how I feel about it yet. I usually like to give myself a week, but it definitely stuck with me. Give yourself a week. He's an artist. That's the underlying thing. You can say whatever you want to about that dude. Yeah.

But every time he makes something, people feel shit afterwards. Oh, yeah. They're like, I got something to say about that. Yeah. And he's like, I know. All right. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false?

Epstein is dead. I don't know that to be false. I don't know that to be false. Go on. I just think that- Yeah, there's going to be a lot of that. It's so convenient. It's like when Ken Lay, remember him?

Yeah. That is one that I have a lot of questions about. That was like immediate heart attack. No one had any questions and he went away. I was like. Was he in prison at the time? No, he was in Montana or some shit like that before the trial and all that. And then there was like a missing millions of dollars.

Yep. And then he has a heart attack and we don't hear about it anymore. Like that's just. That's the Enron guy. Ken Lay is the architect of Enron, which is one of the biggest financial scams of all time. He was tied in with Cheney. Cheney was a high up at the company. A lot of different people in the Bush administration were tied into what was going on there.

And then as the House of Cards came crashing down, he just suddenly died of a heart attack. Yeah. Died vacationing in his home near Aspen, Colorado. Yeah. Three months before his scheduled distancing. You know, stressful Aspen. You know? Yeah.

God damn, this giant cabin I live in. Oh. Yeah. Oh, my heart. You know those- Is the jet ready? My heart. You know those vacation heart attacks Like Scalia died of too

Yeah I mean At a remote location And people were like Billy why do you think like that I'm like Cause That's what I would do

If I was in power If I had all that stuff And all that access I'd be like Oh you know It's a good way To make people stop Coming after me?

Die. Yeah. Yeah. Fake your own death. Buy. Own the solution. Buy. I mean, yeah.

With Epstein, it would be, I mean, the whole world is paying. With Ken Lay, he was out on vacation. With Epstein, it would have to be like a magic trick because he was in a room with cameras on the door uh he seems like on the door on the door oh well but not not inside right right what's going on so i'm not saying it's impossible i'm just saying we'll get we'll get to that later on yeah we will everybody's uh new q anon theories. Miles. Yep. When does pumpkin spice season start this year? In my mind, this is part of the corporation's way of letting us know what season we're in ever, right?

Yes. So when you see pumpkin, you're like, oh, it must be fall. Yeah. Some companies are so fucking thirsty to get this shit going already, like Dunkin' Donuts. They're declaring August 21st the beginning of pumpkin spice season. Because there's nothing like a thick, rich pumpkin spice hot latte in late August. Yeah, right. And you're like, oh, man, what would be great?

The butt of your pants is sticking to you because you're sweating. Go on. No. I mean, I've just heard that that's what happens to you because you're sweating. Go on. No. I mean, I've just heard that that's what happens to people who sweat a lot. That's what happens to other people, not me, though. I'm always dry all the time. Yep, yep. But, yeah, it's very, you know, it's like every single thing is getting inched up closer and closer.

I don't know. Again, we've talked about this in the past, this really bizarre fixation on pumpkin spice in general, this really bizarre fixation on pumpkin spice in general, like why it's been deified, like some people we work with think it's like the fucking, like the God's blood type. DJ Dan. You mean they love it? They love it. Loves it.

They'll do backflips and shit if you just mention the word. Is it polarizing? Because I don't care either way. I don't care. It tastes good when it's on a latte. It makes your latte taste like, it makes your coffee taste more like it's a milkshake, which is never a bad thing.

That's the whole point of a latte. But Dan doesn't eat anything that is not pumpkin spice. Like his Cheerios are pumpkin spice. Everything. He has pumpkin spice that he dusts on a steak. Exactly. During that time. Yes.

He would take an old pie, dries it out in the sun, and then grinds it up into a fine dust. He's got a mental problem. Yeah. I do like the peppermint mocha. That shit is good. I like that. And it's not good. It's like 5,000 calories.

That's the thing of all these things. Not a single one is even close to being a coffee bean. But not all of them taste good either, though. My favorite one at Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf, the Winter Dream Latte. I mean. I'll put that there. I like the Black Forest. Isn't that just cherries and chocolate and shit?

Yeah. Milkshake, basically? Yeah, it's a fucking milkshake is what it is, but it's got caffeine in it, so you get even better. Oh, because it's chocolate-covered coffee beans in there, too, isn't it? Yeah. I remember the first time I had it, I was working with a bunch of- One million calories.

My first adult job at an office, and everybody was like oh let's go get coffee coffee bean i'm like oh fuck i don't drink coffee because like to this day i cold brew is the only thing i've ever gotten a semblance of a caffeine boost from so to me going to coffee was like i don't know what i'm gonna order here i go it's just bad tasting water yeah i just go i get the most childish fucking thing on the menu and it was that Black Forest basically shake and they're like, whoa, you don't want a coffee? I'm like, nah, this is my favorite.

It was good though, right? It was great. It was delicious, but then I'm like, I look like an idiot. Everybody's like drinking their hot things. I have like a fucking gigantic cup of whipped cream like overflowing. It's so good though. Yeah. After you smoke weed, oh my God, that thing. You're ahead of your time, man,

because they just got more and more ridiculous and childish looking until the unicorn shake, which was purple, pink, and blue. I saw that. Yeah, I don't know. Well, look, that's the thing. They realize if we put cool colors in it, people will buy it. What was the other one I think they're like a casino that word they're just like it's they're just shining stuff

they're like hey remember the band cherry pie they're here this week and people yeah and people come see them and then they spend a million dollars while they're there and that's what Starbucks realizes like if we can get them in that store for this weird thing they can take a photo with they'll buy three other things yeah and it's just like and i say it and everyone's like oh yeah and then we go and then it works oh yeah yeah and you're in there yeah to you and your instagram stories be like got three of them fill that hole baby well I order just coffee cause it I use it when I'm on the road

the app's pretty good and it's like familiar the Starbucks yeah like when I'm traveling oh the Starbucks yeah but I just order coffee there and that always

just throws them off right like what I just want a blonde rose in the road drip and they just stare at me like in a cup

yeah just turn around and give it to me and I'm gonna get out of here we can turn into a vapor I just want a blonde roast in the red. Drip? And they just stare at me. Like in a cup? Yeah, just turn around and give it to me, and I'm going to get out of here. We can turn it into a vapor. I just need a cup of coffee. Let me see if we make those. I do wonder how much of this move is based on them knowing that this is going to be earlier than Starbucks, right? Oh, fuck yeah. So this will be the only place that you can go to get pumpkin spice for the month of August. Some dude in an office did some math.

Yeah. And went, August 21st, we can have exclusivity for 10 days or something before. We'll make $150 extra thousand dollars. Right. Yeah. And they're like, you get a boat. I just like the inevitable conclusion

of all these things. Like, you know, basically almost after Halloweeneen we're essentially already in christmas right like mixed with thanksgiving that if duncan does this then what starbucks next year is like oh actually august 14th is when we're bringing pumpkin spice lattes and then pumpkin spice lattes becomes like a dads and grads thing like graduate graduation time you know pumpkin spice lattes. This Justin from resident PSL addict DJ Daniel, he said Starbucks, they're starting theirs on August 27th. So they're going to have six fucking days. Wait, I guess that's that $150 extra K.

Yep. He referred to it as the PSL so casually. The way he said it was horrifying. Casually. The way he said it was horrifying. I think the part that makes me laugh is the aesthetic to it because it's like the pumpkin color. So people are like, this is the pumpkin season, so I spend my money on the pumpkins.

And then, like you said, Halloween is like it's a brighter orange. Right. And then there's a black to it, so you spend your money on the black. And then it's like red and green. That's the, you spend a lot of money on red and green. And then you save some, and then it gets red again for Valentine's Day. Okay, go on. Miles, is that what the Christmas colors represent to you, is blood and money?

That's how I was raised in my house. Damn. That's intense. That's hardcore. That is intense. All right, we're going to take a quick break. What's the Easter Bunny, man? We'll be right back.

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Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?

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Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really in here to let me waste. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.

She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese

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The most predictable predictable shocking news ever What are you talking about This is perfect What's gonna happen Just like JFK Just like 9-11 They'll have a report That will be unquestionably the truth

And then we can all move on Just like those I mean It's weird because It's weird because you find yourself like russian bots you can now like there are now media outlets that track all the russian bots and see like where they're putting their money and energy and body count and it's clinton body count they're trying to get the you know get get conspiracy theories you know that makes Bill and Hillary feel good. Right.

You know, they're like, hey. Do you think in a way, Bill would be like, nobody's going to pull up. Not on me, man. Well, I mean, if you are- Just like with that myth around you, be like, I don't like it. If you are a power hungry person, which is arguably what that family is, there is an aspect to having people fearful that you could knock them off so you're like look we didn't do that but that's pretty cool that people are saying we did yeah

that's another element of whatever octopus power arms that they're fucking playing octopus power arms i like that's what it is like all there's like it's like cheney having an office in every yeah yeah that's that kind of shit where it's just like you let it's like keith richards being like i never parted as hard as they said but i didn't correct any of the yeah like that's right yeah and yeah didn't but he did he say he did actually snort his dad's ashes he did that was true right yeah yeah because i mean he also i didn't say he wasn't fun yeah yeah well he wanted to you know i didn't say he was a fucking prude yeah i just fun. I didn't say he wasn't fun. Yeah, yeah. Well, he wanted to, you know. I didn't say he was a fucking prude, man. Yeah, I just said he just didn't party as hard. Blew a rail of his dad's ashes.

They line up a gagger for me in my dad's ashes. We also said, we didn't have to do that many drugs because we got the best drugs. So they lasted longer. This guy's awesome and he's right. So, I mean, with the Epstein thing, he hung himself. So, Friday evening. Is that how they said he did it? 2000, yeah, hung himself.

Friday evening, 2000 documents were released from a, I think a civil suit. Like a defamation suit. Brought by one of his teenage sex slaves, now a grown-up, against Ghislaine Maxwell? I don't know how to pronounce that. Ghislaine is my problem. Well, it is spelled like G-H-I-S-L-A-I.

Everyone's like, I think it's Ghislaine. Ghislaine, baby. J-I-Z-Z L-A-N-E. Or maybe it's Ghislaine. I mean, look, that might be the American spelling. You know they, I mean, that's probably not how they pronounce it, but you know that's how, like, some of those come back. It's like Helene.

Hey, where's Gis-Lane at? Maybe it's Helene. Zeitgang, if you know how to pronounce it, just let us know. But from the news, I've heard people be like, Gis-Lane. No. But anyways, people thought that's why we were going to be talking about Epstein all weekend. There were all sorts of creepy details. Like with Prince Andrew.

Yeah, Prince Andrew. There were some actual pictures of memos of calls people made. One head of a modeling agency who was like, I have this girl who says she loves Jeffrey and she's asking for you. And there's another girl who is eight plus eight years old, I guess, because they were afraid that if somebody heard them say 16 years old, that would be weird or something. Or they, you know, because law enforcement is notorious for not knowing arithmetic. Right. So they put it in a very deep code of just basic arithmetic.

But anyways, there's a lot to dig through. I'm sure we'll continue to have Prince Andrew, Queen Elizabeth's husband, right? It seems to be. No, no, her first son. Her first son? It's Prince Charles' brother. I mean, technically, maybe her son and husband.

Uh-huh. Prince Charles' brother. Damn, he's old as fuck. That lineage is weird. Anyways, he seems to be the one who we're getting the most details about. What'd he do? Had sex with children. Yeah.

Not great. I think everybody implicated in this was having sex with children. Yeah. Okay. It's just a little more like it put a little more, you know. There's more facts. Detail, more facts. Right.

And like. So. Deeper than that, the question I have is like, first of all, where's his money going to go now? Somebody was like, well, most of it's already tied up in the Caribbean. Right. So. Well, that's where they have to begin figuring out where that stuff is so then it can be put into an estate and then victims can seek damages from the estate but based on whatever they can find but that's not

gonna find any of that money i mean there's the house i mean there is some things that they can but i think yeah but that's the other thing too is i guess until we know what all those documents actually said about what his wealth could be or not be. Yeah, I think they ended up, like people who looked into it, ended up putting it at about $500 million. That's it? Yeah. I know. Deep sarcasm.

Oh, is that it? A dude whose dad worked at the Parks Department in Brooklyn? Right. Who ends up 60 years later worth $500 million. Yeah. How much of that do you think is Park's money that he inherited? I think if the pension was different and if he didn't spend a lot of money. I can't remember.

So Saturday morning it broke. He hung himself, was pronounced dead at the hospital. This is something that we had talked about that protect him, put him on suicide watch, make sure he doesn't die because- Put him in a fucking, like the thing Magneto was in in X-Men. Right, exactly. Like a clear room.

Specifically what we said. With no cloth. I can't remember a, I think the thing this reminded me of was when the US military didn't find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and it was like, yeah, no shit. But it was almost so unsurprising that it became surprising

at how bald-faced it was and just how openly it was what everyone expected, but the fact that it happened exactly as everyone expected is crazy. Yeah, well, because I think everyone... It's weird. It was one of those things... Well, they shot Oswald on TV. That's true. This was like... They did shoot Oswald

on TV. It's not like... This one, they were like, this is going to be easy. He's in that room. But the thing with this, right, it straddles this thing where it's believable enough that you could say that you could believe many. That's what's really interesting about this whole Epstein case is that, A, it has the interest of both parties for the wrong reasons. Oh, he was going away. Right.

And he was. And then but then on top of it, because of all the people that were very powerful that are tied up in like all the vague things, they say like politicians who, who knows how many and how high up that could be of, what was it? A president of what country? Like an Asian country. There was just a lot of people, like you said, like where that's enough to sort of. That's the names we know about.

Yeah. Right. I mean, he's in prison in new york where like some of the people implicated are like hedge fund billionaires when he first got on that yeah when he first got arrested i was talking to a friend of mine who travels quite a bit whose dad is in different stuff like you know like a lot of i wouldn't say finance but in that world and he and i were talking he was like oh my dad brought up and he was like they arrested him to go get the information he has that was his theory wow to consolidate it basically was to leave like all these people came together and were like we need to go get rid of

him right which i thought was like that to me made the most sense yeah if you're being logical about like what all this stuff is right Right, if it is that coordinated. But again, here's the thing, though, too, because as much as I want to think he was just murdered by this conspiracy, because... Well, I don't think he was murdered. I just think he might be somewhere else. Or also, I think it's probably easier to just be like,

this person who is suicidal and had already tried to harm himself just let that play out or whatever just let that play out yeah is one version but then when you also think about like you know what his mental state was i could also believe that he wanted to take his own life because of what the the uh amount of legal jeopardy he was in because he was basically not going to leave jail ever. Right. And then, but then you look at also, I think a lot of us too, when we saw this happen, we said, oh my God, this could be the thing that topples so many of these power structures.

And that's where it starts stinking like shit because you're like this person, who knows what the information they had that was a threat to, you know, I think someone like him, even when he thought he was going down and didn't go down in Florida, even now, I think there's like an ego thing where he's like, I don't, that's why I don't think he killed himself. I just think that ego is too big to nurse.

Although they say narcissists, one of the, like once your whole, because you've like puffed yourself up with all this like false shit, once some of that goes away, they're very susceptible to suicide. So I don't know. I just think, I just, I mean, that would have happened in Florida. Yeah. Except he knew he could get away with it.

And I think now it wasn't long enough for him to think that it was all gone so yeah i just i just don't think i mean you know everyone has something right that they care about that they love i don't know he had a brother uh you know he had uh this heiress i'm sure he had some friends that were going to be implicated so i mean there's plenty of ways that they can make it so that you are incentivized to kill yourself. Right. And then they take you off suicide watch and he's supposed to have a cellmate to, you know, be there and sort of be monitoring him, essentially, because that's what happened the last time. According to like the official record is that he tried to hang himself and his cellmate alerted the authorities. So, I mean, at the very least, it seems like the fact that he wasn't on suicide watch,

that the guards didn't check on him every 30 minutes, and that he didn't have a cellmate are all questions. Those are all reasons why, like that's, that's a passive conspiracy where you're just like, look, make it so that he's able to kill himself. We've talked to him.

He's going to kill himself. He knows what's right. Well, a lot of those guards were working like their fifth or fourth overtime shift. Like they were saying that, uh, that correctional facility is like 70% staffed. So people are on average working 60 to 70 hours.

So you already have like overworked guards who might not really care that much. Yeah, there's a lot. I mean, there's a lot. Cool. That's also where they sent El Chapo too. They were holding him. Right. Which you would think that dude seems like a flight risk

el chapo he has a history of just walking out of prisons and then they're like still just understaffed and now they've got a dude who could break the whole world open right and they're just i'm with you but i don't think i just don't think he did it. I think he's too much of a fuck you kind of dude, because that's been his whole MO, I think, is get blackmail on people and then take their money and then gain information and then take their money. That's someone who thinks they're smarter than everyone. So I think that they, whoever it is, they did all this passive stuff.

So someone could walk in there and be like, either here's how we're going to do it. And it's going to make it look like you did it. Because I just don't think this dude does it. Right. I think it's very believable that he does. I think he takes pills. I don't think he hangs himself. I just don't think.

Well, I mean, again, look, this is at this point, there's no real truth we can lay. No, we'll never know. But I just think the type of person, everything I've read about that dude is just he's not. Not a good guy. Not. Not the sort of person who feels. He doesn't get his hands dirty. He doesn't get his hands dirty.

Right. If that makes sense. That he uses others to do that. Fuck yeah. Well, I think, you know, at the very least, what was interesting was see William Barr come out and feign his outrage at the whole thing. That's his job. He's like, oh, wow. Well, it's interesting, too.

That's weird. That's weird. A lot of pundits were like, you know, the fact that he said, oh, there's a lot of inconsistencies at this facility that we're looking into. That lawyers were saying because his family could sue this jail for even getting him in a situation where he was able to take his own life. And the fact that even William Barr says that, they're like, that would be their first exhibit was the head of DOJ basically saying like, yeah, this place, I think, wasn't run very well. Yeah. Which is an odd thing to call out. But also like if you're again, this gives credence to these other conspiracy theories, too, where they're like, well, A.G. Barr is probably could be caught up or know people who are at whose livelihood or their reputations are at stake.

Barr's father, the one that hired Epstein to teach at that school with no credentials? Is that true? Yes. Wow. So there's a weird bookend to that, too. Right, that's what I'm saying. And then to have the head of the DOJ be like,

oh, I don't know, like, but also kind of take this tack of like, oh, I don't think, he wasn't, he wanted to give enough steam though to people. Oh, it's, I'm saying one thing, but I'm also not saying another thing on purpose to let the whole, he wants a shit storm instead of the truth.

Right, and that's why this whole, it's just very, very. Which is the opposite of what you want from the Department of Justice. Right, I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure people behind the scenes and in the executive branch saw that Trump retweeted somebody being like, no way, he killed himself or something like that. And we're like, well, we can't have him saying it. So I guess we'll have to say it.

I mean, that is the problem when you put someone like that in charge. He's going to say all the things. I mean, so the hope is that this doesn't make it impossible for them to still uncover some of this shit because, you know, the information is still there just because, like, it's not like we were hoping that he was going to spill the beans on everything. Well, his criminal case is over. That's the only thing that's over. Right. So they're still going to be looking into this. criminal case is over. That's the only thing that's over.

Right. So they're still going to be looking into this and even as we're recording this, a dozen FBI agents just raided his pedophile island pulling up to his... Just now? Just now. Pulling up to his Caribbean getaway in speedboats and roaming the grounds in golf course two days after his suicide. Two days after.

That's the first time they got into that island. Hey, maybe we should look into that. Fuck. They're like, oh, all these hard drives are all fried. Yeah. And those papers are, there's like a burning pile of paper ash. Was there a hurricane here? It looks like there was a hurricane went through the house. This is the one thing that Barr said, and again, we don't know how serious he is,

but when he was saying any co-conspirator should not rest easy because they're going to figure it out. That's what's weird to me is I don't understand, you know, if there is a version, right, where on the right, it's that Jeffrey Epstein died because the Clintons were caught up in it and they can't have the truth come out. Then you have the Trump body count thing that's on the left where people are like, Donald Trump had this done because he was also implicated. So you're not sure like what side anyone from either party is talking. But even Barr, though, right?

He was even trying to... He almost seemed like he was on the Clinton body count train with the way he was doing it. But then at the same time, when you consider the information that other people that he knows could be implicated, it's like, this thing... I don't know where people are going to land. Especially these partisans.

It's like do they want the truth selectively? That's what they're trying to do is confuse it and make it partisan. And what it's revealing to me is that at some point it becomes a game to these quote unquote partisan sides. It's not partisan. It's about keeping their money and power yeah that's all they want and if they have to play with dudes like Epstein and all these other people I just started watching the documentary The Family on Netflix you should start watching it it's fucking fascinating really what's it about it's about this uh invisible group that just, they're Christian.

This guy named something Co. They're behind the National Prayer Breakfast. Okay. But they've been involved with every president since like the 60s, 50s and 60s. And just quietly in the way this guy goes about it. And they've got to reach around the world. I'm just done. I just got done with episode two.

So watch it. But it's also that kind of, that's what it's going to reveal and what is going to be very frustrating for people that need to pick a side, if that makes sense. Right. The tribalism that we all have, and especially in this country, like red or blue or whatever which side you're on, or middle. country like red or blue or whatever which side you're on or middle that's going to be the toughest part for i think a lot of people is like oh this is it's just going to go back to that quote it's like power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely and it's we're going to have like evidence and there's going to be women who would be like yes it does look at me it does yeah and this is who did it and they're on both sides and they're both hanging out yeah and that's what's

going to suck right right that's what's going to be messy but yeah i i have no doubt that the people who are guilty and have their hands dirty in this are are democrats and republicans and clinton and trump and you know the the whole thing it's just the fact that it's being politicized and the fact that bar is sending the fbi to do like a a little look around on this island like months after after they should have done that clean right all right release the boats you know whoever's in charge when this investigation is going on is going to bill bar right you know and he's the one who's in charge too who could have been like he actually needs to be locked the fuck down.

Yeah. So a lot of that shit ends up falling in his lap, though, too. Although he can say, well, we need investigations. Who said maybe he didn't need a cellmate? Why are these people overworked? You can get all caught up in the- Well, they're so good about investigations in that administration. Yeah, exactly.

The guy who doesn't even read the fucking reports is going to give his absolute decision on this whole thing. If I was going to undermine democracy, let's say that was like a plan I had. Yeah. This would be a good way to do it. Right. Oh, bring everyone down at the same time. Every fucking side. Yeah, exactly.

Be like, there ain't no solid ground anymore. Right. Yeah. Here's all you peeps. And now that's why we're going into an authoritarian police state. And that's a potential direction to go.

If only their president wasn't implicated in it. If it'll get rid of commercials between my shows, I'm fine with it. What would be your trade-off for authoritarian rule? No commercials? Fuck, no, man.

Free gas? Mute commercials. And also my wife. You mute your wife? No, no, I would mute. My wife works in advertising. Oh, oh, oh. I thought you were doing a fucking Rodney Dangerfield.

I did. You're my wife. My style of, I put pauses in different parts of my speech. Love it. For comedic effect. I'll do it for free gas. Yeah. That's it.

That's my trade-off. Free gas? Do whatever you want, man. Take my rights. Gas is expensive man the amount of driving I do is it? my priorities are all fucked up

alright we're gonna take a quick break obviously the story's gonna keep developing it ended here right? that's gonna be it wrapped up in a bow alright we're gonna be it tidy written yeah wrapped up in a bow uh all right we're gonna be right back

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Anyways, Miles, the seagull wars are upon us is what I'm talking about. Okay, thank you. Yeah, this is the only time I've ever seen Ocean City make national news. Since Jersey Shore? Ocean City was not Jersey Shore. Oh. It's the same. It's a little different.

Oh, wow. There's a furious head shaking all around the room. It's a little different. A, wow. There's a furious head shaking all around the room. It's a little different. A little different. Okay. Anyway, but please tell us what your visions are of the difference between Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge. So people were making a big deal because they hired a bunch of falconers and people who had trained birds of prey to patrol the boardwalk in Ocean City to scare off the seagulls. Hell yeah.

It worked. Using nature to fight nature. Yeah, using nature to fight nature. But it's not like they just released a bunch of falcons. They had them on like a dude's arm with a little funny hats on and shit. And it worked, man. I was walking down the sidewalk and I was like, what's different about this?

I can hear the ocean. That's weird. And then I was like, oh yeah, there's no seagulls. Like you can't hear, it's not just like, ah, ah, like constant. Yeah. Cacophonic. I'm not putting shit on.

Yeah, they just went to a different town on the Jersey Shore, basically. It's like there's one town right there. Yeah. A lot. Right. They went to a town that had a a lot smaller falconer budget i guess how many falconers did you see like i didn't stretch i didn't see any like in the wild i've seen one city and they're fucking

falcons i've seen one in orange county actually uh at a hotel just like patrolling the hotel pool because uh to keep the seagulls away. And it's apparently an accepted way. I just like, though, that there's really no technological way to really do away with seagulls. Oh, there is, a gun. Okay, yeah, but you don't want to be shooting off your pistol by the kid's pool. Yeah.

But the fact that you could just be like, yo, get that guy with the hawk. Yeah. And then the seagulls shook, gone. Although I feel like at some point- Hey, Barry, what's your weird cousin? What's his hobby? Falcon?

Falconer, right? See if that'll help. Yeah. Bring his falcon over here. What's he doing with that thing? I think it died. I don't know if that's a good Jersey impression. Some kind of impression.

It's more like a Philly accent, which- That's pretty close. Pretty close. Yeah. Well, look. He's got a lot of vacation in there. He's pretty close. Pretty close. Yeah. Well, look. Just a lot of vacation in there. Hay-oo-gee. He's on vacation.

Okay. Going to Wawa. A couple hours away. Get a hay-oo-gee. I wonder, though, if because you have these birds, like they would fly, right? Or they just, the mere presence of them was enough. They would let, would they unleash it?

They fly. So inevitably, right, wouldn't there be some families who are having to explain to their children why a fucking falcon was just destroying, devouring a seagull right in front of them? I don't think they eat them. I think they just scare them away. It's like a territory thing. But aren't they carnivorous birds?

Yeah. I mean, Miles, you and I saw a fucking hawk on our street. In the streets here in Los Angeles, we saw a hawk eating a pigeon. Just ripping it apart. But it was legit alive. It was keeping it down with its talons and just eating it. Hell yeah.

I love hawks. One of the more beautiful things I've ever seen. I'm not against that. But anyways, that shit works. Fight nature with nature. You think it was one of those pigeons that goes in front of your car real slow knowing you're going to slow down.

That's what he did to the hawk, and the hawk's like, no, dude. I'm going to you in in the street so people know i think you can just i think you can find videos of hawk eating hawks eating pigeon hawk kill and eat seagull well i think they're terrified i think birds like because when you drive long periods especially through the midwest you'll see a hawk every so miles. Patrolling. Just sitting on the line.

You just see them. So it's like, I think they're like crows too where they have like a territory. Right. So they're not like, they may mess one seagull up just so. That's enough. Yeah. That reminds me of like I went fishing in the Gulf part atlanta in the gulf part down in florida one time in the back channels and there's seagulls around because we were trying to get bait and all this stuff

and our guide was like mad he's like these damn seagulls blah blah i wasn't paying attention i was like half stoned at 8 30 in the morning like this is fun i picked a good job where i get to go do this and i turn around and the guide is he had caught a bird on his line and he was bringing it in and i just stopped doing what i'm doing i'm like what's he gonna do here and he grabs the bird he reels it in to the to the top of the rod he grabs it and then rips its head off what yes and then throws it back in the water And he was like They'll get the message Let's go somewhere else I'm technically not supposed to do stuff like that

And we're like What is happening Crocodile Dundee? Holy shit And you know what? The birds left us alone Yeah They're like Hey that dude's the one that ripped Larry's head off

Right Just snatched it off Wow Yeah I like that he's like, technically not supposed to be doing that stuff anymore. I was like, you mean legally. Legally is the word.

Legally and based on the social... But I remember he said technically. Humanity-wise. I know that's disturbing for others to have just witnessed and also animal cruelty before. Yeah, I want to go back to bed. Jesus Christ.

Yeah, I once got a pelican on the hook in the Gulf because I caught a fish and then the pelican ate the fish. Oh, cool. I was like 12 and was like scared. I was like, what do I do? People were gathering around. I was like reeling in a giant pelican. And this dude just came up and did a couple things with the fishing rod and yanked it out.

Oh, good. I thought maybe we were headed for another Billy Wayne type thing. I didn't do it. I was just there. No, I know. I'm saying that it was a similar ending. That's just how they handle shit on boats. It was one of those traumatic things where it would have happened.

You don't even react. I just went, holy shit. Yeah. And just kept laughing. I was like, okay, okay. Wait, what kind of bird was it? It was a seagull. A seagull.

Yeah, because they were just messing. We were trying to get a bunch of fish for bait. Yeah. Just the idea, though, that someone was like, let me just barehand decapitate this. It was not the first or last time that made it right on that. Yeah. It was, yeah.

That's his way of doing that. I don't remember his name. They're like, Billy, we'd love for you to come back out with us. You're like, nah. He's like, was it Rob? Was it Rob? No, we caught a lot of fish that day. We did.

I mean, I come from East Tennessee, so it wasn't that shocking to me. It was just more like, oh, okay, well, that's how we're doing it here. But the swiftness, yeah. It's like, just, and how clean everything was. Like, he just knew. I was like, oh, wow. Okay, we're going to tip him. We're going to tip this guy.

What kind of fish did you go out for? It was a red snapper, I think is what we were doing. And it was cool because the club we were working at, also the guy was also a guy that owned the club and restaurant. So we took the fish, cleaned it, and then he took it to his – Cooked it up. So good. The dude who ripped the eagle's head off, and then he took it to his... Cooked it up. Oh, so good. That's a blast.

The dude who ripped the eagle's head off? No, he handed it to the owner. Got it. He had other clients. He was busy. He's a popular... That guy owns a comedy club, too? No, well, that guy is also a guy, but he was like, I'm sending out with the best guy in town.

We're like, he's good. He's real good. How'd Ripper do out there? Ripper was real good blow your head off uh all right well let's get into some pop culture news because it looks like they are green lighting chernobyl 2 is that right miles the the newest season of chernobyl yeah right well we already saw that russia made a response one that's like uh it was an american American CIA woman or something that sabotaged Chernobyl. But no, there was a fucking mysterious incident, some kind of atomic nuclear incident in northern Russia last week. And, you know, Russia is being very vague.

What part of northern Russia? Like up north. Like Siberia. Where they're trying to claim parts of the Arctic now? I mean... Is that where that explosion? Because that's... Well, kind of on their own, like here.

Like you see where Finland is. It's northern, but still on what's technically Russia. Oh, that's weird. You know what I mean? That's like east. That's like western Russia. I was thinking more even farther north. Oh, yeah, like towards the Arctic Circle or something?

Because they're trying to, there's a cold war going on up there about the land and stuff when it unfreezes. Like, who's going to get it? Right, exactly. So that's my first thought. But that's real close to Europe. Well, so that was the thing. This incident happens. A lot of people are measuring, like like radioactivity or radioactive contamination.

Yeah. Not, you know, at Chernobyl levels, but significant to the point where, according to the reports that aren't the official state news of Russia, people were buying a lot of iodine tablets and things like that just to make sure they're safe. And I mean, you can you can sense that shit. make sure they're safe. And I mean, you can, you can sense that shit. Like that was one of the really cool parts of Chernobyl is that like they were trying to keep it under wraps in and around the,

you know, city where the Chernobyl meltdown happened. But like, you know, a hundred miles away, people were like, Oh, all the weird like protons and shit.

Like everything just went up. And like, there's like now these high levels of this toxin in the air like you can't hide that shit yeah that's how people around the world found out about it too exactly and then with this a lot of people it's nothing to do with a power facility but they think it's having to do with this uh like skyfall missile that putin was bragging about a while back he's like it's the most it's like undetectable. It's indefensible.

Like it flies, it can fly low altitude and weave and stuff versus a traditional ICBM that has like a very predictable curve or path. Right. And shoot it out. And part of that is because it's partially powered by a little, a tiny nuclear reactor. Cool.

So seven people go wrong. Right. Go wrong. Seven people died died and they're like oh no like i think a lot of analysts who are more interested in like the sort of arm side of things are kind of saying like oh this may have been like a terrible terrible disaster for that arms program uh and they're still not sure what happened but again it's hard to know what the actual news is from Russia because you're

only seeing like there were videos on Twitter that were claiming to be victims that were being transported to the hospital. But the video showed like the vehicle doors were like sealed with like plastic sheeting and the people driving the ambulances were wearing like these white contamination suits. So a lot of people are being like, okay, so this might, something major may have occurred based off of that. Can we just say, like, as a metaphor, this is a great example of why you don't lie to everyone. Because when bad stuff happens, no one believes you.

Right. You're like, hey, we messed up. And you're like, did you, though? Did you mess up? Right. Is the wolf back? Yes. Is the wolf back? Yes. Is the wolf?

And it came with another wolf. We ate all the sheep this time. Two wolves, actually. I mean, the biggest, like this is where they used to test, like the biggest bomb ever set off is the Tsar bomb. It was set off in 1961. It was Northern Russia also. Cool.

They were just getting shit done around that time three thousand times as strong as hiroshima and the the bombs from that were actually used in in war three thousand times they also there's another thing that uh people were pointing at is that there's a bay in the white sea which is near where this uh like explosion happened that's been closed off to shippers or ships now for a month it's about to be closed they're like oh we're gonna have to shut this down for a month so there's a lot of question marks but this is all by the russian government is saying all this this is all this stuff being released yeah that they're like unrelated is this and then someone tracked uh a ship that's used for collecting and storing nuclear waste

was heading that way the day after. I mean, that's... So there's enough pieces where they're like, huh, what's going on here? There's clearly some kind of measurable radioactivity. They're not giving us many details, but this is a place where they might have been testing this rocket that has a mini nuclear reactor in it. No, but I mean, it sounds like something terrible has happened and my question always is that like how much of the truth do you immediately release and how much do you just quietly

so there isn't a huge pant you know what i mean like that's such a weird philosophy question right it's like how much can a human brain handle that it doesn't go into chaos but then it's some but it seems like russia they like to do a thing where it's like just deny everything till it gets so bad they make a movie they do have like that is like a state move right whereas just like yeah until people's eyeballs fall out yeah nothing drawn till hbo makes a miniseries yeah and then let's be like it was the americans dude yeah hbo it is a strong that is like a state move where they're like, until people turn into cartoon characters. Right.

Right. Nothing wrong. Just keep your mouth shut. Well, and yeah, that's also the part of the thing of like- So who figured this out? Like just journalists? Or did Russia finally come out and be like, hey. Well, they did say-

Wasn't an earthquake. The state owned energy company said something something that was very, very vague, that there was something went wrong with, quote, isotopic sources of fuel on a liquid propulsion unit. So something sounds like your nuclear reactor-powered missile, something fucking went wrong. Cool. It's a fun time to be alive well yeah and then you add to that though too that the the trump administration pulled out of that fucking uh nuclear intermediate range nuclear treaty with russia right so now it's like all the brakes are

completely off on a new arms race right and this is what happens i mean and presumably they pulled out because putin told him to well yeah and presumably they pulled out because Putin told him to. Well, yeah, and also they had been violating it. Right. But also that's the thing where they're like, well, then why you have no recourse if there's not even an agreement in place? Right. But hey. Russia.

Russia, man. Hey, but pumpkin spice lattes, man. You crazy motherfuckers. There is just some real quick actual pop culture news. there's a movie that was supposed to come out i'd actually seen some posters for it around los angeles called the hunt that was basically some blue state elites uh capture like a dozen deplorables and then set them loose and hunt them yep uh it is from blumhouse that made the purge so it's basically a even more politicized the purge um well it's like light murder porn yeah is what that is right well i mean so the protagonists are the people being hunted obviously

so you know you have yeah because they're gonna wear protagonists you don't want but it's weird there was this sort of game theory thing going on where the studio decided not to release it now uh because uh there was all sorts of outrage coming from the right and from fox news and then you know fox and friends talked about it and you know didn't disclose the fact that it was going to have the the red state people are going to be the protagonist and was just like they're making movies about murdering us and people uh you know i knew it people got outraged and by people i mean the president and he started tweeting about uh i i think he had already forgotten the name of the movie so he's just like there's movies that are bad paul blart um lou dobbs said uh killing our malls a sick

twisted new movie uh this is fiction but it sounds like reality doesn't it uh jesus christ because you know how the but it's a my drow say it's sort of based off That short story right The most dangerous game There's so many stories It's based off that iced tea movie And that Jean-Claude Van Damme movie Right but it's funny because

Even in that it's the people who are The hunted are the ones you side with So even in this one if you're a Republican You'd be like yeah I'm siding with the deplorables and the thing but i don't like that the labels are being used and like maybe maybe it's too close to the truth of how actual like powerful people operate that they're like because everybody's like playing these two steps ahead chess now so all these left-wing publications are saying they shouldn't release it because they don't want to give them anything any ballast to argue with

and then the right way like breitbart is saying they should release it because they want the you know they want the ammo they were right but both sides are like this is the best thing that could happen to either of us because we just need some shit to yell about for a couple days because all the both sides are doing is censoring art that they haven't fucking seen right which is insane to me and like you said it's the same movie that's been made 900 times where it's like rich people hunting poor people yes right and guess what that one poor that's smart he's gonna win and you're rooting for the poor guy that's good and like i don't care what color or woman now i'm sorry i did it but that's from the past it's always been a dude but now it could be the lady and she's gonna win but it's also like they haven't seen the

fucking movie right so shut up well the the studio has decided not to release it for now yeah for now that's smart it's the studio doesn't give a shit the studio's like how much yeah well they're like okay if we sit on it we'll get enough buzz and then we release it people be like remember that movie that was too hot for the right yeah here we go it's just wrestling move too it's like they use like deplorable versus like elite yeah right you're like well this is these are the terminology this is the heel and this is which is funny because you thought in their minds they'd be like hell yeah man like these fucking deplorable people, like just fucking take on the elites.

They would get everybody, yes. Right. Yes. But, you know, their quote was really interesting. It said, from Universal, why they decided to pull it. While Universal had already paused the marketing campaign for The Hunt after thoughtful consideration, the studio has decided to cancel our plans to release the film.

We stand by our filmmakers and will continue to distribute films in partnership with bold and visionary creators, like those associated with this satirical social thriller. But we understand that now is not the right time to release the film. Signed, Cash Rules Everything Around Me. Cream. I mean, the way I saw it put was that

it's a movie about a politically motivated shooting and because those are happening. Yeah, I mean what I mean. Yeah, even that too. But, you know, if you're waiting for that not to happen in America. Or history. Right. Or history.

Or the history of time. Right. Or make a book about it or a TV show. It's silly. Mm-hmm. It's art, but people like to argue about art. They do. silly. It's art, but people like to argue about art. And it's a, I just,

I think that word deplorable also is visceral for just human beings. So when you say that it evokes emotion, like if you say deplorable Democrats, it makes them mad. If you call the deplorables, it makes them mad and fires them up in the opposite way. So it's this, I think that word in itself is powerful. Yeah.

And marketers know that. Well, speaking of powerful words, Billy Wayne, it's been a pleasure having you. That was powerful. It was a powerful hour. Where can people find you, follow you? At Billy Wayne Davis on Twitter and Instagram. I have Facebook, too. I don't go there a lot, but I have to now because Facebook owns Instagram.

And to sell things, you have to have a Facebook thing. Zuckerberg. And then I'm putting together a tour in the fall and winter. I'll be posting about that in the next month or so. And you can find all those details on bwdtour.com and Squidbillies, which I got to help.

This new season came out last night, August 11th. So the new season will be coming out in the next couple weeks. I'll enjoy that. And my merch will be up on Amazon soon. Wow. Yeah, they're doing a merch thing. What's your Squidbilly character?

Are you just called Squidbilly? No, Squidbilly's is the show. No, I know, but I mean like... No, my character is the... I'm the Walmart manager. Not Walmart, Ballmart. Ball, yeah, sure, sure, sure. Nothing to do with the Walton family.

No. Killer of mom and pop stars. Nothing. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Yes. Tim Dillon, who is a very, very funny comedian, he tweeted, Epstein should get a state funeral. Jesus.

Jesus Christ. Miles, where can people find you? And what is a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey. Also, you might catch Jack, Anna, and I roaming Disney, the Disney streets at some point this week in Orlando. Disney World. Disney World.

Yeah, I was going to say. Never been. Disney World? Never been to Disney World or none of that shit. It's going down for real. It's fun. I went when I was 15. You did?

Yeah. I have no desire to go back yeah see and i need that to say i went when i was in my 30s and i have no desire to go back i want to go to blizzard beach there's a water park there i hear there's two water parks typhoon lagoon yes typhoon i don't even know that's the old one when i went and i'm sure this isn't the case anymore but when i went as a kid they had a huge wave pool and it was either alternately huge waves just rolling in and just wiping people out or it would just be like choppy stormy sea and like i almost drowned like it was just like the roughest water i've ever swam in i was like i i feel like they just had people fucking around and we'll make it a fucking time well there was that there was

that video of that person at a wave pool, I think in Asia, who cranked the shit up to literally tsunami and the shit went outside the wave pool. It looked gnarly. People were getting fucking barreled. Look, I like it. Now, back to this.

A tweet I liked. First one is from E. Cogswell. Emily is her display name. It says, Selling news is a fun reminder that some men will literally pay money for the view that every guy you've ever dated has ignored because he was playing video games.

That's cutting. And also, one more from Casey Kuppenbender. At Casey Kuppenbender. Why is everyone so afraid of their 30s? We get to sit down during concerts. Yeah, we do.

Man, I remember the last time I went to Coachella, maybe five years ago, I sat in one of the tents where other people were standing. Like, what's wrong? I'm like, I'm fucking not feeling this right now. That's why. Oh, yeah. Okay, I'll lay down. For sure.

Also, it was Molly. Yeah. Too strong. They had a dude who just took a jetpack across the English Channel, and his issue with it was that it was too much standing. His legs got tired. It was like a platform. It was like a hoverboard, essentially. Well, how long did it take him to get across?

He had to stop to refuel halfway across. That's a bummer. He got his little break. Hoverboards, you'd be like, oh, yeah, but you are standing. Well, that's also very human of him to be like, I had to stand the whole time. He rode a jet pack across the English Channel. Yeah, but my feet are tired. Like, I think I locked my knees up too much.

Tweet I enjoyed, Logan Trent, at the Logan Trent, tweeted, a Transformers movie by David Cronenberg where the Transformers are perverts that disguise themselves as vehicles because they get off on people riding inside them. Isn't that already what kind of Transformers is? Yeah, yeah. Do they ever make sounds when they get inside of those vehicles? Optimus Prime's like, oh, oh, oh.

What, Optimus? You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We're a link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we write out on.

I was what's that going to be today? The track is called Someday, and it's by this group Weevil. It's just very, you know, very out there, very different. I like the production on it, and I think you will too, because it's still, like, kind of laid back in some good vocal melodies, but, like, it's awesome. There's a funk to it. There's a patina on it.

It's just a remake of Sugar Ray's Thumbnail, right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Cool. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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