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I was just gonna wait for you guys to stop incredible riffing. Said like that. I'm like, I'm sucking it. Incredible. I paused for a moment and then I realized that reads a cessation, but I was really thinking about the right word to use. Incredible blathering. I was just waiting for this beautiful blathering to end. Oh, yeah. You guys worked up a really nice blather there.

Didn't want to interrupt. That's a sweaty butt. Butt lather. Blather. Oh, what? Never heard that the same way again. Oh, my God, dude. That's fucking wild. Blather is a butt lather. If your ass is foaming? If your ass is sweating so much, that's fucking wild. Lather is a butt lather. Yeah. That's real bad. If your ass is foaming. If your ass is foaming.

If your ass is sweating so much, it's foaming. That is the worst form of rabies. That is really bad. Yeah. That's end stage rabies. I thought like Santorum was bad as like a visual, but. Oh. And I would absolutely prefer that.

Butt lather. To butt lather. Butt lather. Butt lather. Foam coming out the rear. For real. Yeah, you've done it. Isn't that how horses sweat?

They like get an actual, like it's like kind of foamy. You're telling me horses sweat by foaming out their ass. I do not. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. You're foamy. There's a protein called latherin, called latherin. That's where we get lather.

That's the lather. And I'm just saying I have it in my butt. That's the god damn linguist. And we came back around to a true scientific fact. I get the horse's ass sweats. Sweating like a horse's ass over here. Okay, now it's like my grandfather. I'm foaming like a horse's ass over here.

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Thursday, June 5th, 2025. Thursday, June 5th, 2025. We got a national ketchup date here. We got a national start over date here. We got a national veggie burger date here. We got a national moonshine day. A national gingerbread day. That's a pretty... Wow. Gingerbread, moonshine, veggie burgers and ketchup. That's actually a party. That's a delicious meal. Yeah. And then start over is probably because you just drank a bunch of moonshine and fed you What is that whole thing if it for oh, it's just saying hey if it first you don't succeed Aliyah then try again

If the first you don't succeed Is it that are we at the halfway point of the year? I never know is at the beginning of June the end of June What do we call it like June? 15th and a half if it's December 31st, even though we're not counting the days that don't have 31st. No, shouldn't it be like a whole month period? I think it'd be the end of June, right? Six full months gone past November, April 9th. If we're talking straight months, you're going to have six on both sides.

So it would be the back half of June into the front half of July if you're trying to... Is that right? I'm looking at... I think it would be the end of June into the front half of July if you're trying to get right I'm looking at the end of June anyways I thought that's where they get got I'm talking to you say it's a whole month if you're saying there's a whole month it's halfway through no I'm saying if there's a whole month you can't say the end of June is a month because the beginning of June is you're getting into the what I'm saying the halfway point in the year would be the end of June I think. Oh sure.

The mathematical midpoint in a non-leap year is July 2nd. July 2nd? Also the worst day to go to the hospital. Really? That is when they bring in the interns and that's when you're going to be getting some. Wait July 2nd specifically? July is when the medical students start like taking over the hospitals and they it is really and statistically the oopsies capital of hospital death unbelievable that we have a holiday that where we blow things up driving capital the fingers blown off capital of the holiday highlight of the year and then the worst day to go to the hospital. We nailed it.

Send in the clowns. Yeah. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, aka I want survivor. I'm not gonna give up calling you non-stop. I'm going to beg harder. I'll win Survivor because I am Mike White. I keep on calling, keep on reminding. That one courtesy of Snarfie on the Discord in

reference to the story that we learned about. Mike White, who went on Survivor, came in second. Writer of School of Rock and all the White's Lotus. Single-handedly, he won't do a writer's room, just writes it by himself, character development be damned. He went on Survivor, came in second, and apparently has not stopped harassing

the producers of Survivor being like, yo, get me on Survivor again. I want to be back on Survivor. Are you going to do like an all-star cast? Because I'm a star, baby. You know, I cast a bunch of former cast members. Yeah. And then he cast a bunch of former Survivor people on his show. So, seeding the ground for this very third. I don't wonder he's losing steam creatively because I feel like this is all just in service of him being on survival. Like he's just doing it.

He doesn't give a fuck about the shows. It's also amazing that like HBO's biggest hit might get delayed because he catches some sort of horrible intestinal parasite while he's on a deserted island. Yeah, exactly. He's yeah. So he is back on Survivor, and I think he's going to probably be dangling that over everyone's head the whole time.

Just be like, yo, do you want to be on White Lotus? Oh, you betray me. You will not get a casting role. That is weird, yeah. Oh, because the casting never made sense. It was like, I was always like, wait, do those people even like want to be actors? Like I know all people who go on reality TV

want to be famous, but he is. He's forcing that. He's like, I don't know, Mike, you shut the fuck up. You're gonna be on the show. You fucking hear me? You're a star. Fuck your anxiety.

Can you imagine competing for a million dollars against someone who couldn't need a million dollars any less? A person who could just write a million dollar check to himself. I hope there's some class solidarity there, and they go, bro, we need to get Mike out the box immediately. Yeah. You know, don't make deals with him.

And I know you're a struggling actor. It's all millionaires. That's the survivor theme. I see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Thrilled to be joined, as as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, just one more time, I gotta say, what a rice it looked like pee-pee. But also this one, I was snorting meth, I thought you knew that, said I put it up my nose,

baby, baby, I say something else You don't listen to me say That was Tireness for what it is. I caught the water. I should look like peepee. I was like damn bro water rice It looked like peepee water rice. It looked like pee pee. What are rice? It looked like pee pee. That's pretty spot on. That should have been for you, but I had to jump on that new push it to lyric where he says yellow diamond look like pee pee for anybody who hasn't listened to the

last 15 episodes. All the preschool rap fans are fucking losing it right now. Well, miles, we are thrilled to be joined by the host of How to Be a Better Human. Great podcast, very funny, National Academy of Sciences live traveling game show, wrong answers only. Welcome back to the show. The hilarious, the talented is Christopher.

Christopher. I also look like Pee Pee. Hey, there he is. He looks like he's drenched in pee yellow diamond in the sky and the horse foam My man's foaming it in today Chris how are you doing? Where are you coming to us? I can't believe it's been a year. It's been a year Yeah, I guess every time we're, bro, we gotta have Chris back. And in my mind, you've been back.

Oh, thank you so much. You know, it's been, there's been a lot going on in the year and I'm glad to be back. It was a joy last time. I'm so, I'm a fan of the show and I'm glad to be back, fan of you too. So that's great. Oh man.

Mutual admiration. What's your favorite U2 song? Oh, with or without you. Oh, you meant us. Oh, wait, which one did you mean? No, that is, I meant U2, the band. I don't even like the two of you. Thank you.

I'm not a fan. No, I'm not a fan. Oh, I'm so sorry for the confusion. I love the Irish band U2. I thought you were gonna be like, oh right, what's your favorite episode? No, no, no. Name them all.

Name your favorite Daily Zideast episode. It's real good. You've only got 1800 to choose from. Yeah,'t know. Name them all. Name them all. Favorite daily sightings episodes is real good. You've only got 1800 to choose from. Yeah, I know. I couldn't name a single one and I've been on every almost... I don't even know how we haven't repeated a title at this point. I mean, we probably have, but nobody would notice. No, we have pretty... No, we've got some keen-eyed listeners for sure.

Your listeners are very much on it. I think they would know for sure. Well, you'd have to be keen-eyed for the titles, is what I'm saying. That's right. That's right. Yeah, yeah. Because they're the same people who tell us like, hey, guys,

you guys are coming up on a milestone. We're like, really? Our what? Our data doesn't indicate this much. As we've talked about, we batch recorded all of these back in 2017. You know what else I love about your fans is you have a group of listeners who are so great, love the show, and they are both very detail-oriented and focused and also the kind of people who are like, hey, I'd like to make a pee-pee joke.

I love that combination of people. We're threading the needle. We're threading the needle here. We've threaded the needle. It's beautiful. Yeah. Chris, we're thrilled to have you. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the things that we're

talking about it's Musk V Trump. Whoever wins, we all lose. Is that the catchphrase for the alien verse predator? Fitting for these two considering he's South African and he's a fucking predator. Oh yeah. Wow. That's right. Look at that.

And we're going to talk about just the Democrats' general response to this administration. It sucks. Don't look closely. We've talked about it before that it's bad, but these clip smiles. Yeah, I'm sorry. You've truly outdone yourself And making me want to stop breathing. It's jesus if you thought this time it might be good You're wrong. It's not

Oh look away look away. We even have a new book from kareen jean pierre, yeah They're crazy Jean pierre. No, jean pierre. Jean pierre kareen. Jean pier? No, Jean Pierre. Jean Pierre. Karine Jean-Pierre, who has written a book now that is all about how fucked up the Biden administration is. You may remember Karine as the spokesperson. Mouthpiece.

Yeah, the mouthpiece for the administration. But this book is being pitched as somebody who can talk the truth outside party lines, because she literally just declared as an independent, left the Democratic Party. After years of hearing me not talk the truth, I think that you should trust me to talk the truth. I think you're going to want to hear this. Here's the thing about me. Now that I can talk the truth by my book. Yeah. That's right. We'll talk about Andrew Cuomo. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Chris,

we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? You know, the last thing that I searched on Google was, what is Rabdo? Because I was watching this video of a guy who ran a marathon without any training. His wife said, there's no way you can do that. And he said, I can. And then he ran a marathon without any training. Uh, his, his wife said, there's no way you can do that. And he said, I can. And then he ran a marathon without any training and every comment was like, this man is going to die from Rabdo. Watch out for Rabdo. So then I Googled what is Rabdo. And it turns out it's not a joke.

No, no, it turns out it's like your muscles break down and then you die. So this guy might die, but he said he doesn't have it. Yo, he's going to die of Bofa. Like, no, what? Yeah. Rabdo definitely sounds like you're about to get punched in the shoulder by a bully. Yeah, for sure. But it's real and he's apparently going to die.

But I think he actually survives. We'll see. I'm going to wait for the, this is how I live is, you know, one TikTok, see it again a couple of days later, see it again a couple of days later. And then it seemed like a joke, but now my husband did pass away. Your husband did pass away. Your dad. My husband did pass away. Incoming stitch. Wow.

Rabdomyel, myel, myelysis is the full name. And when you go on the Wikipedia, you are treated to a picture of the urine from a person with rabdomyelysis. What does it look like, Guinness? Staying on trend. That's right. It looks like a very hearty, like an IPA that you have to chew.

Ooh, what the fuck? Pee pee like a diamond indeed. Oh my God. Yeah, diamond pee pee. That sucks. That sounds like a wife who both knows her husband and wants to be single. Yeah. She's like, I bet you can't run a marathon. I bet you can't do that. Watch this dipshit.

It's like, I also have not trained and I am positive I couldn't run a mile, much less a marathon. You could. You could run a mile. You think so? Yeah. I don't think so. I think like that too and then I surprised myself. A mile and the difference between a mile and a marathon Is like you ever hear those like explanations of the difference between like a millionaire and a billionaire

Uh-huh. It's just like it doesn't sound well. It's just doing that 26 more times, but it's Truly an impossible no difference Well, it's I feel like it's actually even easier to run like two to three miles than a mile just, just from like the times I think that's incorrect. Well, the first month, at least for me personally, the first mile is the worst one, like your body's like, we're doing this. It's so cool that you are a runner. No, no, no, I'm not.

I hate where I tried to do it during lockdowns. I was doing it for a second. And then I was like, bro, I'm who am I kidding, man? I'ms. I was doing it for a second. And then I was like, bro, who am I kidding, man? I'm depressed. I should just fucking play video games. And that, but then, but as I was doing it more and more, that's what I was learning, cause I would, I hated that first month. I was like, you just have, once you, they're like, once you break through, man,

you're free. And I'm like, I, I usually I'm like chasing a ball on a field or something and running, and I can't do it just to be like, I will run down to the end of the town. It's a lot more fun if you get distracted, but I will say like, you had the response to that, that is the way billionaires respond to that. Like there's not that big a difference between a millionaire and the hardest one to make is the first after that it's downhill to a billion. That's right.

Wasn't that, didn't Arnold Schwarzenegger make that joke to someone and it landed so flat, it fell so flat. He's like, you know, the secret to being a billionaire is you got to make the first million. And like, they were like, what? Yeah. And he's like, ha ha ha ha. It was like a really bad.

It goes over way better with the guys that I golf with out of a helicopter. Yeah. Yeah. Miles, you did sound like somebody who's like, yeah, you know, it's like the second miles where you truly start leaping over buildings because I'll choke myself out now. Fucking tough guy. The thing is the first minute of choking yourself out is actually the hardest.

That is the hardest one. And then the body just kind of goes with it. And the second minute is real easy. What's something you think's underrated? Underrated, you know, I think the comedian Roy Wood Jr. is underrated. I know he's already famous, but I feel like he should be the most famous guy.

And he has a book that's coming out. And I just watched his special and thought it was like so good. I just feel like Roy, it's crazy to me that he's not like the most famous comedian in the world. I think he's so good. Yeah, he should have fun mean, when they were like, who do we have replaced Trevor Noah on the day? We should be like, he's right fucking there. He's right there. He's right there. He's the funniest

person you have or one of the funniest, a lot of funny people there too. Like Tulsa and other people. But yeah, he's the funniest. He's so fucking funny. He's so good. And he's like that rare person who's just like funny to listen, just talk off the cuff to very funny standup, who's also just funny to hear just be him. Yeah. He has jokes that I think about all the time, like, uh, like both like political jokes and then just like slice of light jokes. Like I think about how, uh, every time I take a shower, I think about how he has a joke that's like, if you want to really prove you're tough, if you want to prove

that you're a real gangster, get in the shower before warming it up. I think about that every time I get in the shower, like, yeah, that's, that's too tough for me. And then the other joke he has is he has a, an amazing joke that I will, I will butcher that's about the math of how many American flags equals one Confederate flag. But he's like, we all know there's a number of American flags you could fly. That is equivalent to having one Confederate flag. And that is incredible.

Really love the American flag. It's so good. Yeah. He's a genius. So funny. What is something you think is overrated? I think potato chips are overrated. Potato chips worst to me, the worst form of a potato, French fries, hash

Browns, mashed potatoes. I don't understand why potato chips are the default that you get with a sandwich. To me, we could do so much better. I think potato chips, the fact that they have achieved what they've achieved is, is great for that. Ubiquity is, is a marketing victory, but it's not, it's not on quality. You're saying so for a sandwich. Don't have chips.

Let's take fries off the table because they do that. So scoop a mash of mashed potatoes. Yes. I would take that over. If you gave me the same bag that has the potato chips and instead I opened it up and it's hot mashed potatoes. That's a great day. That's true.

When I, when I, when I've gotten the chicken sandwich and Popeyes, I don't get the fries. I get the mashed potatoes and gravy. Sorry. Imagine if you ordered mashed potatoes and gravy with your chicken sandwich and then they gave you potato chips. Yeah. You would be furious.

Get the fuck out of my face. Yeah. Also this happened because one time I was at a restaurant that was like, you know, little more expensive than I wanted it to be or knew it was ahead of time. And so I couldn't. I was like, oh, I'm still hungry. The dishes are too small. And so we ordered french fries and they brought out potato chips and they were like, yeah, it's thin french fries. And I was like, that is not a thin french fries.

What? That's illegal. That is illegal. I'm not for calling the cops for nonsense, but this isn't nonsense. This is a high crime. Absolutely. I would be like, these are not. They really fucking tried to act like those were french fries They said this is our style of french fries. I said that's a potato chip. Wow. I know when I see we do different here

Truly, we call potato chips french fries our fries. Oh my god Well, so do you think do you think so different that I can just walk out right now that thing is that cool? I'm into that restaurant. Yeah, that's right. I guess you technically can't do that at any restaurant They just arrest you afterwards. Well, it depends on how fast you are And if you have a friend who can go down with a fake, you know a medical thing that is so true Yeah, you know, they say the first mile you're running when you leave a restaurant is the hardest the hardest Sprint out into traffic and get hit by a car. And then if it runs off a broken ankle.

Yeah. And you were not in the UK at this time when you ordered for the chip crisp. No, those are, this was Los Angeles, California. Yeah. That's ground zero ground zero for experimental restaurant trends that shouldn't be experimented with. That's right. All right. Let's take a quick break.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And this is, you really hate to see this, you know. We all, like, want to believe in love, you know? And that, you know, you see a couple that is so happy. They're enjoying, they're like, you know, making the mixed family thing work with, like, you know, him bringing, like, the kids around and the other one really likes the kids.

And then one of them shows up with a black guy and, uh, and that next, it gets messy. And that's what we're seeing between Elon Musk and Donald Trump. Yeah, there's a lot of tension because right now people are like, there's all kinds of stories like did Trump push Musk out? Did the White House staff figure it out, figure out a way to lessen his influence? Is this all for show? So both parties can like sort of revive their brands to be like,

we don't have nothing to do with the Doge guy. And then Musk is like, I don't know, I'm not doing Doge anymore or Trump, just buy my fucking cars, please. Either way, there's something going on because there's some, like the feelings are hurt because Musk has gone from like restrained criticism of the big, beautiful bill to full blow,

first off, fuck your bitch. And the click you claim is the energy of his tweets about the big beautiful bill. So how did we get there? Axios says four things happen on the way to like this latest Musk tweet storm because he just posted, I'm sorry, but I just can't stand it anymore. This massive, outrageous, pork filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination. Shame on those who voted for it.

You know you did it. You know you did wrong. You know it. So this is what this is what has happened. You're like, how do we get here? First, they said that the bill cut electric vehicle tax credits that obviously helps automakers like Tesla. Musk didn't want to leave his special government employee gig that he had beyond the 130 day limit. He's like, I want to stay.

Everyone in the White House is like, sorry, no, you can't do it. You have to go. That was another pebble on the scale. Then he also wanted the FAA to use Starlink satellites to control national air traffic control. But the administration, like, luckily there were enough people who knew how shit works to be like, first of all, it looks bad. Second of all, you can't have air traffic control, just run off satellites. That's a fucking mistake.

And then the last drop. Your satellites in particular, because you don't seem to be good at getting things into space and keeping it there. No, no, no, no, no. But if, if you want to blow some shit up, then maybe we have some for the space force. Absolutely. We'll put you in charge of blowing shit up in the sky spectacularly. How about that, pal? We'll give you a pit in the Nevada desert.

You can just do a little bang, bangs in for fun. But the, they say the final straw for Musk appeared to come Saturday night when Trump abruptly announced he was withdrawing the nomination of Jared Isaacman, a Musk ally who is set to be NASA administrator. And now we get these things calling the bill in a box. with drawing the nomination of Jared Isaacman, a Musk ally who is set to be NASA administrator. And now we get these things calling the bill an abomination. And I know he's serious because he only does that to describe biracial people. So this is heavy.

This is heavy stuff. And we started saying this like the moment Trump won and then Elon started swinging his mangled member around like he owned the place. The countdown timer has begun. And it was really only a matter of time before the immovable turd would collide with the unstoppable ketamine addict. And now we have this. I was like, is this kayfabe? Cause I could totally see that happening.

But the fact that Musk is going after a bill that is existential for Trump's agenda indicates something, this is very like, a bill that is existential for Trump's agenda indicates something. This is very like he wouldn't do this because Trump's already been posting all week about how it's like, this feels so good. And like, no one's supporting it. Like Rand Paul's ruining it in the Senate. So to have Musk come out and be like, this is a fucking nonsense bill. Shame on everyone.

I don't know. It feels a little. Sounds like a country song too. Like, shame on those who voted for it. You know, feels a little. Sounds like a country song too. Like shame on those who voted for it, you know you did wrong. Oh yeah. It was like, what the fuck? All right.

It's also like, it really is one of those relationships where sometimes people break up and you're like, well, you could do better. And sometimes people break up and you're like, both of you are awful. Like no one was a winner here. You guys deserve each other. Yeah, Jack, you're a former editor.

Is that colon placement correct? Shame on those who voted for it. Colon, you know you did wrong. You know it. I'm not a copy editor. I was an editor more in the broad sense. Oh, yeah. Like what's funny.

Yeah. This good. This not so good. This good. I do not like. Riddled with colons, fine. My editing was usually more all caps, please. Well, this does not pass that test.

Not a single all cap word in here. I know, he's fucked up. He should have spelled abomination all caps for sure. Yeah. Definitely an all caps abomination. But yeah, I don't know. Everybody thinks that they can exploit Trump and they always come out the other side without all the stuff that they thought they were going to get. Thanks for your 300 million, dude.

Yeah. It's, it is fun to see it happen to Elon Musk. You think though, I kind of feel like he did get the stuff. Like he, he came out better, didn't he? Is he really coming out worse? I feel like he's the one person who came out the other side. I don't think he's coming out worse. I think he's coming out with like 40% of what he was promised.

Yeah. But he has a lot more money now and all this crazy government data and all sorts of stuff that he does. I mean, it depends on the Tesla stock at any given moment. Like sometimes he has a ton of money and then. That's true. Yeah, I guess I'm thinking of the Tesla stock and the fact that he was like so high on drugs

and then also like high on the whole, like I'm part of a Nazi movement that just got voted popularly into the White House. Woo! And like, you know, did a Dean scream with a full Nazi salute. And that seems to have hurt his stock, like both literally and figuratively. You know what it feels like to me is, do you remember when Chappelle did a comedy show in San Francisco and lost a kid out on stage and got booed and he was so shocked and sad to get booed.

What? It's like, this happens to this guy over and over. He thinks people are going to be like, thank you. We love you. And in fact, people like, we hate you. You're the worst. Fuck you. And then he's like, why do you hate me?

It's because you are doing the worst things. No, I'm not. We hate you because of that. No, I need more ketamine. This is too much negative energy. Absolutely. And then he goes further, further, further into the abyss. Yeah. It's, this is not, I don't know where this ends up, but like, you know, like Kara Swisher, who did a big tech journalist, it's like, I don't know, man,

this is when Elon starts acting like this, you might have to buckle up because he'll, he might crash out and do something just bad for everybody involved. Uh, but I don't know. It feels like he could also be doing this and then maybe extract a concession from Trump and then he'll go back to posting something about, he's like, I'm so proud of the work Donald Trump has done. It's very hard to know, but it's also to me, a really funny part of that, like the reasons they gave her why he got kicked out are like, I've been invited to

a party that I don't want to go to before and I don't want to just say like, I don't want to go. So then I make don't want to just say like, I don't want to go. So then I make up like the most ridiculous excuse. And like of all the rules that Donald Trump and the administration have broken, the fact that they're like, well, it was 130 days and there's a statute and we can't have you stay past 130. You couldn't be here for 140. Like that is so clearly ridiculous that they, of all the laws that they were going to break,

they couldn't just keep a guy around. So they don't like him anymore. They don't want him. That was like the real reason. Well, yeah, they're saying there's a lot of internal power struggles, power struggles with who gets Trump's attention and with Musk, like, you know, like living at Mar-a-Lago for a long time. That was like the beginning of people being like, dude, this

guy is too much right now. So good luck, Elon. I know you're not going anywhere. And I know it looks like this, but go on and fight. Trump has yet to actually respond to this at all. And on Fox News, they're acting like Elon Musk doesn't even exist right now, even though every other news organizations like Elon

Musk is taking a full on frothy horse dump on the big, beautiful bill. And what does that mean? The good thing is that that means that we're, you know, we're still slowing down the absolute gutting of a lot of social safety net programs because they can't get their shit together to pass this thing. So we'll wait, we'll wait and see. Yeah. I feel like it's not, if I was Trump, I would not want Elon Musk in his current state being like full

flamethrower out, you know, chainsaw and chainsaw one hand, flames on the other hand. Yeah. Just generally the problem with treating your negative mental state with lots and lots of drugs is that the problems that you're causing, especially when like the thing, there are big existential reasons that you have, you're having intense negative energy around, like you're causing horrible things for massive numbers of people. And yeah, it like, you can, you just can't keep adding more. You can't Ketamine it away. You can't just at a certain point, you can't Ketamine it away.

And then things start to like go in a dark, weird direction. And who knows what happens when that process meets being like somebody who is, you know, publicly trying, trying to win every argument ever that has ever been, just like going into Reddit posts about him and being like, this person's right, like finding one person who thinks he's doing a good job and like hearting that comment. Like just at a level of like highly public,

both influence and volatility and vulnerability. I don't know. That's, that's both like not a good place for him to be. And also not a good place for someone's enemy to be. Oh, right. It's also like so insane that we were like three people feeling slightly differently away from this guy being like, and now all of the, uh, all of the planes in the country are controlled by my satellites.

Like that could have happened. And then he'd be flaming out. Like we just dodged that by the tiniest of bullets. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So now we just have no USAID anymore. Yeah. Thousands of federal employees gone. Millions of people will die. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. The NASA thing seems somewhat significant to me because like, why wouldn't Trump be just be like, yeah, I don't know. He's the space guy. Like he knows better, you know, that means that's another, that's like a whole other part of the government that Musk has under his control, you know,

I mean like via these people. And I think that's, it's just a chess move to be like, no, it's a significant pushback. Like there's a movement against Trump for, or against Musk for sure. Happening within the administration. Yeah. But either way, I think, I think it is, it does stay under reason. This doesn't mean Elon Musk. There are people responding under these tweets like, thank God

Elon's seeing the light. And it's like, no, you fucking stupid ass. He's just not going against him and saying Trump is bad. He just has a personal beef with him that he's airing out in public. A lot of those people who are saying that are like, the entire Democratic leadership. Finally, he's on our side.

It's like, oh no, that's not the takeaway. Come home, Elon. Yeah. The Democratic leadership is killing it. Yes, killing us. Oh yeah, yeah. It being us. Sorry, I should have been more specific with our pronouns there.

But yeah, Hakeem Jeffries. Jesus Christ. Yeah, he's the, look, he's the leader right now in the House. And I mentioned, I mentioned it was yesterday, Hakeem Jeffries being directly asked on CNN by Dan Abash, like, dude, DHS goons are cuffing members of Congress. And Hakeem, you said that's not a line you want to cross. It's a red line.

And he's like, oh, we'll respond. Just for context, I want to just said that- They'll find out. I just for context, I want to just said they'll find out. I just want to set up. Yeah, I want to set up the the clip when he first was saying, Oh, they better not cuff anybody. That's a red line. And you don't want to do that. You don't want to do that. So this is Hakeem Jeffries about three weeks ago, doing some tough talk about whether or not DHS, he's talking about Tom H home in here that the head of dhs and in his threats to to lock up members

of congress your statement the other day after there is this incident in new york you said they better not touch our not what happens if they were to go and arrest these members of the report sanctioned they'll find out what you do that i mean i don mean, I mean, it does not broach a. They'll find out. Doesn't that go across?

That's a red line. What's the what's the red line though? I mean, I know we have. It's a red line. It's very clear. Well, first of all, I think that it's so so called homeland. Then he starts going, he's like, this guy, DHS, this guy is a joker. They'll find out.

They'll find out is. Yeah, I want to say I used to teach elementary school. This is exactly how I talked to the fifth graders. What would happen if I threw a pencil and I'd be like, Oh, you'd find out. You would find out. And I had no plan. And I was like, I hope they don't find out.

Absolutely no plan. No recourse whatsoever. I hope they don't got to steal to follow through on that threat. Because I definitely will not be able to find out. I'd be in the front of the room being like, I think I could take this kid. Yeah, right. If it came down to it, but I'm not sure. But not if it's him and his cousin who's also in the class.

Three of them? If all these kids gang up, it's definitely them versus me and I will lose. So could you, I mean, just to go off that Malini thing, could you take down three fifth graders? Certainly not. I don't think I could take down one fifth grader. That's what I learned graders? Certainly not. I don't think I could take down one fifth grader. That's what I learned in my time teaching is I don't think I could take a single fifth grader. Humbled you, humbled you.

So yeah, their sheer charisma and energy. You just can't deal with it. I was talking about it in like a personality contest, not a physical fight. So yeah, that line has been crossed like more than once now. And I remember a few weeks ago, I was like when Representative MacIver got putting cuffs into like, oh, we're going to charge her with assaulting an officer or all this other shit. That was kind of a moment.

I was like, OK, line crossed. Now what? And did the thing. Cricket to find out crickets. So here he is now. OK, asked a few days later. Now, this is this is about three days ago. He's on CNN and they're saying, you know, what's going on, man? They're crossing the lines here. I thought you guys were going to do something.

I had to cut a minute or about 40 seconds into his answer because it was just a bunch of horse sweat blathering. Okay. And he was just saying like, well, you know, the constitution says, she's like, what are you, she said, what are you going to do? It's really like, it's hypnotizing. Like we should play it at the end of episodes just so like people can dose off to sleep. Yeah, it's a good sleep podcast. I mean,

they might be dozing off now, but here is the, so this is him being like, well, it's the Constitution. And then he rounds it out to the end of his answer to the time-honored democratic strategy. Oh, wait till the voters get a load of these people and then they'll see. Then they'll see. Democrats. It's unfortunate that our Republican colleagues continue to be nothing more than rubber stamps for Trump's reckless and extreme agenda. And the American people, I think, will ultimately reject that next year.

We will take back control of the House of Representatives. In the meantime, in terms of how we will respond to what Trump and the administration has endeavored to do, we will make that decision in a time, place, and manner of our choosing, but the response will be continuous, and it will meet the moment that is required. What exactly does that mean? Have you not decided what to respond? Yeah! Long pause.

We've publicly responded in a variety of different ways. We haven't let our foot off the gas pedal in terms of additional things that may take place with respect to- What exactly? Oh, man. What the fuck are you talking about? What does that mean? It's just being eviscerated by the simplest question.

What does that mean? You're like, dead pause. Usually that's enough to be like, oh, we'll do it. When you're saying endeavored to do, you're just filling fucking time. You're just speaking with time. You're just speaking with words to try to get like they're the Spokesperson's statement like about her book also has a bunch of this shit. We're just saying things in the most bland Way possible like there's no no content opinion, no point of view on like any ethical.

It's just like, and then we will endeavor to do what we do in the way we want to do it in the time as we're going to do it. Yeah. It's really a loose collection of buzzwords. It's like, you've got to say American people fighting for you, democracy, the constitution, and then some other, you know, Words in between and you'll be fine. I will respond at a time when I choose and where I choose Mm-hmm. I want that to be clear Nobody gave shit where

Do I just push you in a puddle of mud now what oh Oh The what will come when I choose for the what to come and then bully would be like what the fuck is this? We're talking about bro. Shut up and push you in the mud again Yeah, I'm gonna see you go on this puddle again now What's up? It really it's it's really hard to see that I mean like also for starters if this guy won't even find a way to defend his own members You think he's gonna do a fucking thing for the constituents?

No. You know what I mean? Like, no, you can't even you're not even protecting the people who have more legal protections than the constituents. Like, I'm gonna nope out of this confrontation. Their most recent oh, they'll find out, fuck around and find out moment was to pay for a taco truck to set up outside Republican offices and feed them free tacos. Dana, they just found out.

Oh, thank you, Dana. They just found out that lunch is on us. Yeah, right. What? This is what they said. Along with this stunt, they said Trump always chickens out. We're just bringing the tacos to match. You are feeding your ops.

Okay. Jesus Christ. This is sucker behavior. I ops. OK, this is sucker behavior. I don't know how this is sucker behavior. Even Vice President Couch Banger knows it. He tweeted, he said, we have the lamest opposition in American history. I like that word. But that's why he said, well, these people ain't shit. Yeah. Like for like and that's for real. Like, I hate that.

He's like, yeah, but what the like, he's even like, for real? Talk about truck. That's like quite literally what celebrities did to support the writers during the strike. They were like, we'll send you a taco truck. They were like, let's get that same taco truck to fuck over the Republican. Right. Huh? Or you can go to Bob's big boy.

And if you show your your guild membership, they'll give you a free meal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Free in front. And that was actually I never realized it at the time, but that was Drew Carey telling us that he was not with us. Drew Carey was paying for all those meals to be like, fuck the writers. That's how I'll show them. You're a bunch of ham sandwiches.

Here's food that you'll need. And these are, and also these are really good tacos. That's how much of a chicken Trump is. It's so crazy to me because it's like, sometimes when people want from you it's complicated and other times it's so simple. It's like, just say, this is bad and fucked up and it's not okay.

And then we're gonna do something about it. Like it's actually, it's not, we don't want something that's like complex here. And what certainly people don't want you to just, you know, feeding them tacos is the craziest thing ever. It's because you came up with like a cool, a cool slogan that kind of like makes him sound bad taco. Well, now we'll give you just say taco.

You don't have to give them tacos. Just say Trump is a coward over and over. This guy's a loo. Just say, bro, if they just started saying subtle, this guy's a loser. Look at him. He always looks tired, dude. Have you seen his face? If someone ever said, Yo, you seen his face lately? You seen his face lately? He would

get so like, get wobbly from just like this weird asymmetric talking point. They'd like, what is my face? Okay. Because right now, the party leaders, this is just like to go along with the disappointment. There's a think tank getting in front of the party elite right now to basically abandon any sense of leadership or morals and just back policies that are the most popular in the country. Adam Jentleson, who's a former chief of staff for the hero,

John Fetterman, he used this republic or democratic retreat to, quote, preview his new policy research and messaging hub called Searchlight. Its goal pushed the Democratic Party towards the most effective, broadly popular positions, regardless of which wing of the party they come from with an eye toward 2028. The think tanks mission as described by these people is an explicit rejection of purity tests. Gentleson sees as holding the party hostage, the most famous of which became fodder

for a highly effective ad Donald Trump used against former vice president Kamala Harris during the campaign. They're talking about the they them ad. Right. They're saying that fucked us up. Being like siding with the LGBTQ community is a fucking L. And we blame them.

Yeah. 100%. They are literally saying trans people aren't polling good. So we should turn our backs on them You know other things that didn't pull well civil rights Motherfucker interracial marriage fucking seat belts. Yeah, you know, I mean, they're like, I don't know I mean if the people don't want it then you're not a fucking leader like this is yet This is a fucking cartoon version of what they have been doing and what has been causing them to fail for the past two decades is just being like, whatever the polls say, like we're going to triangulate around that and come out and the thing that people object to about them is that they have

no courage, they have no leadership. They're just doing what they think is going to win them elections. And then once they're empowered, they will not do anything brave to represent you. They'll do just whatever they think is going to get them to win the next election. And the people are smart enough to recognize that and their response to their, you know, just basically their support completely cratering is to double down on that shit because that is, that's all they are.

It's like ask, you know, that is their only purpose for existing for the past two decades is to maintain the status quo. So they don't know anything else. What's so crazy about this is the strategy is like, my friend Ivan, I was talking with my friend about this and he was like, if you knew for sure that Kamala Harris walking into the middle

of a public street and shooting an undocumented immigrant and a trans person in the head, if you knew that that would make the Democrats win the election, that still wouldn't be a good strategy for winning the election. That's still like be a good strategy for winning the election. That's still like a horrific act that no one should ever do. And yet the Democrats are like, actually, maybe the shooting they in the head is the move.

Like, let's see if that would be the move. I that's what I'm like I said yesterday, these people are only capable within playing with of capable of playing within the like rhetorical framework that the Republicans have set up and conservative conservative within playing with of capable of playing within the like rhetorical framework that the Republicans have set up and conservative conservative news media has set up like this fact alone that they will play in by the rules and the rhetorical truths that Republicans put out. They're like, well, I mean, obviously, immigrants are there are some bad people.

We just have to like you're already ceding to their version of events that should just that fact alone should indicate how little difference there is between these parties because they're like, yeah, we also accept that. But we're trying to do things differently based on the fact that we were agreeing or we needed to look like we agree with what you're saying without pushing back too hard. And so they're just campaigning on being like a better dressed version of the Republican Party and wondering, like we even said this in the campaign. It's like, why are you doing? Why are you chasing Republican votes when the options are MAGA, like frothing at the neck MAGA and this Democratic party, they're like, why would I take the bootleg version if I want cruelty? Like, I'm a go full cruelty.

I want to see a lot. I want to see more Democrat politicians. I want to see more politicians period. Just be like, you know what? There are other jobs out there. I'm going to come in here and say the things that I really believe and do the thing that is right. And if that means that I lose my job, I'll go back to being something else. I don't have to be a politician forever. That's fine. I'm already very rich.

I'm an independently wealthy investor. That's who most of these politicians are anyway. Like just do the right thing. Do what you actually believe. There's no way these people believe. Which is wild because they're doing all this other thing like now we're doing a study to understand men and how to align. It's like, yeah, you guys just don't, you don't come off as people who believe in things.

Figured it out. Bullseye. Yeah. They're like, what do we need to say to convince people? It's like, no, you need to actually be convinced of what you stand for. It's not what do we say to convince people? It's what do we say to not offend people so we don't get them into, like, no, you need to actually be convinced of what you stand for. It's not what do we say to convince people? It's what do we say to not offend people so we don't get them into like, we are doing things in a way and in a place that is verbing some nouns. Like it's like, this is from, so Jean Pierre was like the spokesperson, Korean

Jean Pierre, uh, so she's dropped book, independent, a look inside a broken White House, outside the party lines that is like talking about the Biden administration for which she acted as a mouthpiece. And she said, the president that I saw was a president who pushed us hard, asked the tough questions, really wanted to make sure we were either talking about what he was doing in a way that was connecting with the American people. That was my role as a press person or for the policy people coming up with creative out of the box ideas to figure out how to deal with issues, figure out

how to deal with issues that. Like you say that in a job interview, they're gonna get out of here. You're like, well, I've come up with out of the box ideas to deal with issues. You're killing like there in both cases. It sounds like they're talking to run out the clock on just reality. What's your experience of being a leader? Well, I'm very good at following what everyone else has told me to do. Right.

Yeah. And figuring out how to deal with the issues. But I'm independent now. Why do I think I'd be a good leader? Because I follow everything that people want me to do. That's my number one skill as a leader. Yeah. Following.

It's unreal. They just, I mean, like, if they were smart and they're not, sadly, they'd be like, y'all, we need to give it up to the actual people who have a mouthpiece. You know what I mean? Who can actually chat that shit because it's not these people. Like, you have people in the party who you give them a little more of a significant role. They're going to get people a little bit more fired up than Chuck Schumer, who's like, why is Trump making a deal with Iran?

What about these side deals? Dude, that's what the Republicans said about Obama making a deal with Iran? What about these side deals? Dude, that's what the Republicans said about Obama making a deal with Iran. Give them a taste of their own medicine. Literally 10 years ago, you're saying the same thing. Well, Republicans did. They point out their hypocrisy by being hypocrites. It's so easy because it's just like all you have to say is healthcare, peace. When you go to the grocery store and buy food, it won't kill you and a plane won't crash into your house because

it crashed into another plane before. That's our platform. And people like that actually sounds great. Like it. Remember, like the rent is too damn high. Even though it's a meme, people are like, everyone knew who the rent was too damn high guy was just off the back, off the strength of saying a truth that we all acknowledge

that the rent is too damn high, forget all the details around them. But like just that alone, you say things like that. People are they are rather than well. Now, according to the Constitution, now we were supposed to serve as a check on the executive. Like, come on. Yeah, Miles, I do want to say in response to the rent being too damn high. Now, we I will be addressing that idea at a time in several years when I choose

to address that idea, but it is not this time and I will be where I want to be. And don't you ask where I will be because that is my business. Yep. Yep. Exactly. I think I've answered that in a way and in a place of air choosing in here two, four and so forth and, uh, comma. Did you say comma?

I said the word comma. Colon, colon, colon. No, but that's true. That is what, and I think that's the thing, even though not every voter like can articulate why they don't like the Democrats, it, the ambient energy is. They always like, I like what they are talking about, but nothing's actually happened. What the fuck? So I can't really I don't know if I can believe them anymore.

To your point, I feel like the Democrats hold the way they even campaign is like, oh, yeah, abortion rights. We will respond in a time and place of our choosing. Don't mess around with it because we will respond. And then look what happened. They have a massive amount of damage to answer for like with, with just years and years of saying bland things, not delivering on the things and being like, well, you know, it depends on what the definition of the word is, is type shit.

And they aren't even willing to admit that they were wrong yet, which is. Not great. Not great, Miles. Nope, nope. They're just all getting together and they're saying, how can we blame the people that criticize us? That's like, we have to stop with the purity tests. And when they say that, you know, this is the same guy who penned an op-ed right after the election loss and was like, we got it. Dude, the groups are killing us.

The groups, the climate change people, the, the LGBT rights people, the fucking pro Palestinian people, just the anti-black race, like the people who are against anti-black race and those people, the groups. Yes. Yes to all of that. And that's what they're doing. Well, they don't poll well, so that's not gonna get people to the polls. Uh-huh. You're not, at that point, you're not a leader, dude. You're like a fucking karaoke DJ. Yeah. What song do you want to do?

Okay, okay. I'll put it on. Worst karaoke DJ. You're not running your shit, bro. The only part I disagree with there is I do think that is the job of a karaoke DJ to say what song do you want to do? Yeah, what song you want to do? Okay. No, but I'm saying, yeah, I'm saying they're not. I'm saying the Democrats aren't leaders. They've just been like, yeah, whatever you want, man. Whatever you want. They'd be sick at that.

Yeah. Yeah. I think that's what Jeffy did. They should transfer over. That's a good career for a lot of these people. They should be switching over to karaoke DJ. Hey, I told John before. Yeah.

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Until the debate, there's a debate tonight, or there was a debate, sorry, as of this recording there's a debate tonight or there was a debate. Sorry, as of this recording, there was this recording, there was probably hopefully, I'm sure there's going to be some interesting shit from that debate. Because this is something for sure. But tying in with just the big D democratic parties attempt to win by staying completely still and not being noticed like we're in the T-Rex scene in Jurassic Park.

That seems to be his strategy. And a recent interview, like just the most basic, like, you know, what's your favorite food type interview? You know? Like what, what, and what, what does your name begin with? Tell us what letter your name begins with, your favorite animal, and what's your favorite food. Just real preschool level shit. He fucked it up big time. They were like, all right, you live in the culinary capital of these United States. One of the foods on the Mount Rushmore of New York culinary delights is the bagel. What's your bagel order? And he responded bacon, cheese and egg. Okay.

On an English muffin. He just did that shit from Inglorious Bastards when he ordered three whiskies. Yes. Bacon, cheese and egg. Bacon, cheese and egg. First of all, that's incorrect order, my guy. I'm not even from New York and I know that. I am speechless.

As a born and raised New Yorker, to say the words bacon, cheese and egg instead of bacon, egg and cheese is so, it actually makes my brain, like I cannot register that that's even possible to say them in that order. That's so fundamentally wrong. That might be the worst political position I've ever heard is that it should be bacon, cheese and egg rather than bacon, egg and cheese. Like it's called a, like a B E C. The shorthand for it is a B E C.

Everyone knows that bacon, egg and cheese. That's just, it just rolls off the tongue better. You were the governor of New York state. How could someone allow you to say cheese before egg and on on an English muffin, what is, are you insane? They asked you what your bagel order was and you said a completely different type of bread. I'm not in favor of like politically motivated killings, but like if the person who was running his campaign, like heard that and didn't try and push that journalist in front of a train house of cards. Style.

They're falling down on that. Yeah. Has to get buried. Hey, what train you going? What train you going home on? Oh, you're taking the six. Oh, you're going out there. Okay.

Yeah. I think that I will go further than even saying that this is a bad quote and say that if you are a New Yorker and you would vote for someone who would say that their favorite bagel order is a bacon, cheese, and egg on an English muffin, you're not a New Yorker. Absolutely. You're not a New Yorker. It is your duty to go out into and stop the same from being a New Yorker. He's like, what's your favorite?

What's your favorite kind of slice? I like to get a veggie hot dog. Yes. That's exactly it. I just asked you what the fucking your slice was and you just said a completely different fucking food. I said bagel order. You said, and you hit me with a muffin

on bacon, cheese and egg? Hot dog veggie. Well, he would have to like get the, you know, the things out of order. Dog veggie. Can we also just talk about even on it's, even if we just accept him on his own terms, he says his favorite order is to order a bacon, cheese, and egg on an English muffin

and then take off the bacon. Why would you order the bacon? And then I try to take off the bacon, but I don't really take off the bacon. He's trying to flirt. Again, so just all the things that are bad about him that we know about. First of all, not a real New Yorker, not just a human, killed a lot of people's grandparents. Resigned to disgrace. Yeah. A sexual harasser. In this, it feels like, and then he says, the bagel I try to stay away from to keep my girlish figure. Gross. So he's doing, he's doing like referring to his hot body and revealing himself to not

be a real New Yorker, maybe not a real human being. This is like worse than like when Bloomberg shook the dog's snout as a handshake. It's also, it's also one of those things. Like I was like, I don't know, maybe Bloomberg just kind of got frizzled like this one. I'm like, I don't know who Cuomo is, bro. Get this guy fucking out of here. It's also one of those things where it's like, you know, I just want to be really clear. That whole sexual harassment thing that is in the past.

And then you say, I try and stay away from it to keep my girlish figure. Like, sir, that is what that's not what I want to be saying off the comment. He's like, I shouldn't have resigned. Like, he's like, he's like, I've learned fucking nothing, which is wild. Because now I'm like, damn, man, we were fucking dragging Cynthia Nixon for that fucking cinnamon bagel with locks, cheese and fucking capers and shit. When she was running for mayor. I don't know why this mayor's race always has some fucking spooky ass food order.

I don't want to. Did they ever ask Eric Adams this? He probably figured it out. He's like such a normal, like unimaginative man of the people. He'd write, I like my bagel with butter. That's it. You're like, all right.

Yeah. All right. Eric. Yeah. I bet his order is wild as fuck, but like still like, all right. I see it. Yeah. Eric Adams, it's always the thing you don't expect, like he would say normal big order.

And then you say like, and where do you get it? And he'd be like from inside of the subway station. Yeah. On 9-11. What? What? On 9-11. My favorite.

That's the best bagel I ever had. That's called Bagel Day for me. I go to, yeah. I only eat them on 9-11. He said, oh, OK, because there was, when he was running, that question was asked to Eric Adams. He said, as a plant-based New Yorker who's reversed his type 2 diabetes by cutting carbs and sugars

Missing out on bagels a real challenge. I love a good cinnamon raisel raisin bagel with cream cheese Okay, easy Normal, that's an answer. I think she said bagel actually don't think that's correct Bagel jack can't do it to the bar solo. He did. yeah, yeah. But it's also like a Ron DeSantis ass, like remember when Ron DeSantis was running and someone was like, hey, do you, what did they ask him if you wanted? And he was like, I can't eat that, man.

Sugar, man. Like that's- Oh, yeah. That's, you just pretend to eat the food. Have you learned nothing from the Rock's Instagram? Someone gave him an icy. An icy, and he was like, wow, no way. And he called out a child with an icy at the fucking Iowa State Fair.

He's like, what is that? And I see it. I got a lot of sugar, huh? Yeah. Oh, no, you did it frequently. Dr. No, this is. Yeah, exactly. Like just just watch the data, too. I think Vance did it, too. Remember, he was like, I think he was admonishing his kids for eating. He's like, I don't know about all the donuts.

A lot of sugar there. This is the same thing for all of them. Someone said. No, you know what it was? It was because somebody told the truth that Ron DeSantis at one time had eaten a cup of pudding with his fingers digitally. They were like, it was the nastiest thing I've ever seen he's like first of all I would never eat pudding sugar man oh okay but yes I do eat with my fingers but I do eat everything with

my fingers yeah if you know what I'm saying ladies the muffin oh okay Okay. Still, still, still, I don't want to hear that. Somebody stop him. Get him away from this reporter. Say, no, no, no, no. I'll scoop out that bagel. No. Yes, someone needs to tell him about scooped bagels. But like, I feel like even that he. I'm just concerned about this man not enjoying bagels.

Yeah. What's your bagel order? What's your bagel order? Oh, man, depends on where I go. I Like a bagel everything with jelly. No, I like everything I was like everything bagel as long as it's an everything bagel with some salt on it and then depending on the mood It's either butter or heavy cream cheese. Yeah. All right boss. Let me get a Everything bagel with about a half pound of poop All right, boss. Let me get a let me get everything bagel with about a half pound of poop

Uh is my order that's my favorite. I love that you have seen that youtube video where the guys just talking shit It's like it's these new york these hold on. I got this audio is so funny. He could have even copied these guys Uh who did the half pound of poop? How you doing boss man? Let me get everything bagel Do a half pound of poop The usual for me, corner scoop poop on the poop bagel. I'm going to do a bagel everything scoop it out, do a little lops and, you know, put a little poop on there. I like how, just, well, I love a good Instagram or, you know, crack it up to the surface.

Yeah, two people are clearly just drunk. Yeah, insane. Dude, this is good. The poop bagel. This is good content. Mine, I always like a little bit of lox. If I go to Russ and Daughters, I like their whitefish salad. I like whitefish salad.

I love whitefish salad on bagel. If there's whitefish salad, I'm going whitefish salad. But yeah, I'm usually everything or... You're everything? Yeah, everything or sesame, like a good sesame. I like sesame too. That's great. Vote for me for the mayor of New York City.

I mean, here in that video that you just played, though, Miles, I will say that if Cuomo had said exactly what you said in that accent, I actually would be in favor of it again. Yeah, boss man. Bacon, cheese and egg on them. English muffin. Then I try to take off the bacon, but I don't really take off the bacon. You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, keep my girlish figure. Yeah. Yeah, that would have been fun. Yeah, and it's like, he's back and everyone's like, I think he has pierced nipples. I'm not going to get over that. I'm not going to get over that.

Certainly. Cannot, not, when he refers to his girlish figure, that is the first thing I'm thinking about. Yeah. The photographs of him in a tight. He starts touching his chest. He's like, my girl, she's like, oh. Softly stroking his pierced nipples. Well, Christophe, that is where we're going to end.

We like to end every episode that you come on with me saying softly stroking his pierced nipples. That's my requirement. I have a contract that requires any podcast I'm on to end that way. So thank you so much for honoring it. Thank you so much for joining us. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?

You can find me at chrisduffycomedy.com and I have a big, wrong answers only to science comedy show in LA on Tuesday, June 17th at dynasty typewriter. You should come see it. It's going to be really fun. All about ice cream. Oh, fun. All that ice cream. Oh, amazing. Comedy. So you have one expert and then three comedians.

That's right. An ice cream scientist, a chemist who studies ice cream and invents new flavors. And then three comedians trying to understand your work and free ice cream for the audience. So you got to do it. Can you say what company like did they work for like a legit? Oh, she like works for all sorts of different companies. She like across, but I think she's currently working with Snoop Dogg to invent new flavors for his ice cream company Wow, damn barbecue Fritos flavor probably sounds great. Actually, that's his favorite shit

I'm not just favorite ship a savory ice cream. I actually think could be good. I've never had one, but I believe it I've like a garlic ice cream. I've had garlic ice cream and it's weird, but I'm like, it's like a cold Alfredo sauce. That took me right back out of it. I was on my way, but now I'm out. Yeah, boss, let me get a, yeah, what's my order? I get a. Let me get a ice cold Alfredo on my bagel full of poop. Me, I'm in New York, you know.

When I say bagel, I mean English muffin. Yeah. What's my favorite bagel? Shout out to some of the producers, Victor, maybe the bravest thing anyone's ever done for this podcast, Taste Tested. Bagel, I mean English muffin. Yeah. What's my favorite bagel? Shout out to some producer, Victor. Maybe the bravest thing anyone's ever done for this podcast. Taste tested the Hidden Valley Ranch flavor of ice cream. Wow.

Oh yeah. Shout out, Victor. Yeah. Didn't think it was very good. Disgusting. Disgusting. Quote, quote, Victor. Amazing, Chris.

Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Oh yeah. You know, uh, the media that I've been enjoying? Oh yeah, you know, the media that I've been enjoying is this book, Log Off by Catharine Cross, that's all about why social media is so much better for the far right than it is for anyone on the left. I think it's just like, I've been thinking about it so much and it's really interesting about like why social media

and politics don't work for the left and that's structural. I think it's really cool. Yeah, there you go. Miles, where can people find you as their work media? You've been enjoying it. Everywhere at miles of gray. You should check out the latest episode of Miles and Jack. I'm at Booster's where we had

the most famous Indiana Pacers fan, maybe she gave Galey on to talk about her Indiana Pacers, and only her Indiana Pacers and a few interesting tidbits there. I was so impressed. She was like, how does she know so much about basketball? As if she's practicing it rather than like, it's just passive for Megan. Yeah.

It is what it is. It's not in the silent. It's blown away. Yeah. Because she's, anyway, y'all know Megan, she's great. Also, 90 Day Fiancé podcast, 420 Day Fiancé, check that out also. I like to post from Josh Gondelman, friend of the show.

The Gondelman. The great guy. Famously, what did they say? I was on Doughboys, they always say he's like an absolute monster. The worst guys like that bit. Yeah, it's true. He's an absolute monster. Cocaine addict and huge monster.

Yeah, Josh's true. Yeah He's the nicest guy you'll ever meet I think he doesn't like it so I'll just It's a bit because he's so because he is nice. Yeah, it gets old. He's like guys I'm actually really sincere. He's actually a lot of fun on cocaine Posted on blue sky. Okay on the bright side, we've been living in unprecedented times for long enough that they are now firmly precedented. And that is a good way to look at it. We can get maybe past the shock part. And yeah, this is what it is.

This is what we're dealing with. This is what we're up against. There you go. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find me on Blue Sky at Jack OB, the number one. A couple tweets I liked Carter Hamley tweeted. I just got, I gotta do this one because it made me laugh in bed last night.

LOL in the bathroom hearing insane shitting punctuated by the email sent whoosh every every 10 seconds my man simply cannot stop cooking that is so good Oh my god. That's so good. I've definitely had that experience too. Where somebody's just lighting up the bathroom. Public restroom.

And just doing work. Just fucking flying on their phone. Give yourself a break. That was so good. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of the episode wherever you're listening to it, and there you will find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information we talked about

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