The Daily Zeitgeist - CUOMO’S NIPPLES, Quar Induced Divorce? 4.1.20

Episode Date: April 1, 2020

In episode 599, Jack, Miles, and Jamie are joined by comedian Billy Wayne Davis to discuss the Cuomo brothers, Caroline Calloway's long-waited response, divorce rates spiking, weather forecasts, the Mafia in Italy raising hell during the lockdown, Tiger King leading to the re-opening of the Don Lewis disappearance case, and more!FOOTNOTES: CNN Anchor Chris Cuomo Diagnosed With Coronavirus Pierced or Not? The Mystery Over New York Governor Andrew Cuomo’s Nipples Caroline Calloway's Long-Awaited 'Natalie Response' Essay Is Here China’s Divorce Spike Is a Warning to Rest of Locked-Down World Drop in aircraft observations could have impact on weather forecasts The Mafia’s Using the Italy Lockdown to Raise Hell and Recruit Netflix’s ‘Tiger King’ Sparks Flurry Of Tips In Florida Cold Case WATCH: Wild Nothing - Foyer Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello the internet and welcome to season 127 episode 3 of The Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck the Koch brothers and fuck Fox News. Jamie's always so sad to hear me say fuck the Koch brothers. I think she's a fan. I've been low-key black belt and i'm pro pro coke that'd be a fun that'd be a fun quarantine uh fun quarantine storyline should we should we start just doing fictional storylines yeah as well as be a soap opera yeah charles coke is my quarantine bag

uh i read dark money and I was actually more impressed than anything. Honestly, it was pretty cool. Kind of epic, actually. Kind of hot. Hey, guys, it's Wednesday, April 1st, 2020, the day that all us people in comedy look forward to every year when the jokes come out. The funniest things on the internet happen we'll get into that my name is jack o'brien aka hey all you zeit cats and zittens this is big jack from big jack's zeitgeist rescue the world's largest second rate home for the day's trending

tweets news videos and netflix reality docu-series. No, what is that voice? That is courtesy of Hannah Soltis, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! I can't show you the world Zoom and Google hangs only Tell me, Fauci, when can we end this goddamn quarantine? Corona world.

A new sad, lonely way to be. No one can leave their home. Can only roam alone. I wish we were just dreaming corona well don't you dare close your eyes he with tp runs the show trump says we're in the clear by easter this year but we know that Corona world ain't through. I almost did the book. Shout out to Sarah Rose 242 for that epic Aladdin hit. I love that part.

I love don't you dare close your eyes. That's really my favorite. I'll always say that's the best part. I was going to say don't you dare touch your eyes. Oh, I love that part. I love don't you dare close your eyes. That's really my favorite. I'll always say that's the best part. I was going to say don't you dare touch your eyes. Oh, fuck. I ad-libbed that part. Well, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by our Corona Zeitgeist co-host, Jamie Loftus.

Oh, well, imagine as I'm guest hosting a second-rate podcast and I can't help but to hear no, I can't help but to hear an exchanging of words. What a crazy pandemic. What a crazy pandemic says a Miles Gray to Jack O'Bee.

And yes, but what a shame. What a shame the whole zeitgang stuck indoors. I chime in with the haven't you people ever heard of obeying the goddamn core? No, it's much better to face these kind of things with a case of Hansani NTP. What?

Hansani. Oh, my God. That one really got me going. I'd like to say, I mean, the Zeitgang is on one in a way I've never seen before because this was submitted to me at 4 a.m. by at TransientYo. Really, really remarkable stuff. Again, very impressed, but also we're a little bit worried about you guys, but we appreciate it nonetheless.

We're thrilled to be joined in our fourth seat by today's guest. We've been eagerly awaiting his arrival. I've been wanting to hear from him this whole goddamn quarantine. He is Mr. Billy Wayne Davis! Hey, guys. That was beautiful.

I prefer Jamie Loftus over Brandon Flowers And I never thought I would say anything like that Hi Braze Is that the guy's name? Yeah His name's Brandon I love him I think as far as a lead

Like a front man, he's wonderful I mean, his charisma Off the charts It's that vocal quality. It makes you just want to, goddamn door, no! This is fun to do, man. Wait, that's the killers?

Yeah. Oh, wait. No, wait, Panic at the Disco. Oh, is it? This is some shit. Wait, hold on. Start from the top. Oh, it's another Brandon.

Hello, the internet. No. Brandon Urie. That's the chaos. Oh, it's another Brandon. Hello, the internet. No. Brandon Urie. That's the chaos, Brandon, that I think works with Taylor Swift. Wait, which one is panic? Brandon Urie is Taylor Swift's friend. Got it. And panic.

Okay, and that's panic. Brandon. Brendan. Brendan. Brendan Flowers is good. He's a good man. Oh, man. Wow.

See, we're all just completely upside down. We're mixing up killers with panic. He's a good man. Oh, man. Wow. See, we're all just completely upside down. We're mixing up killers with panic. It's a stuff. I don't think we're the first people to do that, though. God, I hope not. No. My mentions are going to be smoking. Not your mentions.

Billy Wayne, what have you been up to, man? How's the quarantine been treating you I haven't noticed a difference in my lifestyle other than I don't go to the airport as much anymore

I just have to be careful when I leave and go get weed and my sons are around all the time so it's I'm fine with it I've learned how the zoom recorder really works through uh through a lot of error so that's what i've been doing nice nice wait what do you mean it's you're taking risks out there to go to connect a satchel like what do you mean like just because you might interact with like the dispensary you got to go somewhere like the back of a hospital to cop

what's going on well they're just like all the essential places are now just hot spots so i mean sure that's how that works where you're just like i mean have you been to a grocery store like this isn't a good idea at all right right right yeah unless like i mean it's it's weird to see some places take it very seriously and other places just act like they're watching Fox News also, where they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, come on in. And I'm like, really? The line, you're not marking off what six feet is for people? Because most people don't know what the fuck six feet is.

Well, my favorite thing is walking and then having that stare-off with another person and being like, are you going to move? You going to go? Or am I going to move? Who's making way? Who's walking into the street? Or when you do move, watching people be offended that you moved. That's a fun one where they're like, hey, I don't have it.

And you're like, I'm not going to. Fuck you. Hey, I don't have it. Yeah. Did you guys see the footage of New Yorkers all rushing to watch the USS Comfort pull in and dock, but they were all in a crowd, not social distancing at all as they watched. And now apparently we need 27 feet,

according to MIT scientists. It can go 27 feet in the air. So again, more impressed than anything by this coronavirus it's really uh putting up numbers are you guys sure it's just not 5g yeah man hey were you watching that conor o'malley video too where he was raising awareness for 5g it's so good smoking 500 cigarettes to raise awareness for five oh my goodness i'm sorry we digress a modern classic we do digress uh all right billy when we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna check in with what we're talking about today we are going to be covering uh the two Cuomos. It's Cuomo World. Yeah.

Because Chris Cuomo got it. He's doing all right, though. And Governor Cuomo is... Can get it. Can get it. Can get it. Because he's got his nips pierced, it would appear. Oh, I... Yeah, love it.

Love it. Love it. This is where we're at. This is where we're at right now as a society. We're all like fever dream looking at a governor's nipples and being like, what do you think, guys? Pierce? He's not a perfect person by any means,

but I'm down to form a parasocial relationship based on that. Oh, yeah. I mean, he's rocking it. It looked like the Off-White logo. It's almost like you got X bars through there. Anyway. He seems fun. He likes to work hard and play hard, you guys. It's very cool.

We're going to talk about divorce rates spiking in China. We're going to talk about Amazon doing some strike busting. Very cool. Lack of flights and what that's doing to our weather forecasting, which is two things I did not realize were related um and just checking with some myths that people are buying beyond that it's 5g causing all this which we actually don't have on the w world health organization's

uh myth busting website so it could be true that could be actually what's going on. And the Van Gogh theft, kind of cool that somebody decided. I always like, how are you going to fence it? How are you going to fence it? That fucking rules. Yeah, that is always the question. That's a good Robin Hood-y crime. I like it. Yeah, but how are you going to sell it? Yeah.

It is very well known. gonna sell it yeah oh there's it is very well known yeah i mean unless somebody i guess they hire you out freelance to acquire it for them i think that's the only way you can it's because it's a it's contract work you know where we're all regressing i like regressed to da vinci code and where do you go find that dude i don't know i don't know i think it's exciting i hope that they put it inside a big fish they put it they put in a bag, and then they put the bag in a fish, and then they mail the fish. Right. That's how art theft works, I'm pretty sure.

Yeah, I think that's right. I like that. Like in Uncut Gems. We're going to also check in with some Quorax, some quarantine activities. But first, Billy Wayne, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are, sir?

Where does the audio from the Zoom go? That's pretty telling. I recorded a Behind the Bastards last week that will never be heard. Oh, wait. So, wait. You completely duffed the take there?

Is it a total loss? Oh, it's gone. I don't know where it's at. And it just ended with me shaking my laptop, hoping it would fall out. Right. Just checking underneath. I haven't been that embarrassed in so long. Yeah, everyone's learning, I think,

just especially in the podcasting world. Everyone's getting very familiar with these different recording devices and setups and ways to interact and make it seem like we're not completely in a weird delay or bizarro digital world. But yeah, I think in the last two weeks, I've also furiously searched for things about Zooms and how to possibly prevent a disaster. things about zooms and how to possibly prevent a disaster. I think all things zoom. Just that word. The word zoom. Really having a moment,

you guys. It is zeitgeist. Boom. I still do think, did anyone ever watch the kids show zoom? No, Jamie, remember we're old. Okay, all my old heads out there didn't watch zoom. I didn't know who Marsha Thornberry was or whoever the fuck. Eliza Thornberry.

Okay, Zoom was, maybe there's some zeitgang that remember Zoom. It was a kid's show that was just like kids in t-shirts dancing around. It was on PBS. It was so dumb, and it cost like $14 to make, but it was cool. It was the only show in the world that recruited kids from the Boston area because they shot it in Boston. And it was like every kid. Oh,

interesting. It was like a national show, but it shot in Boston, which never happens. Oh, it started on WGBH in 72. Yeah. Yeah.

And then it ran for, it might even still be on, but it was like, oh, it ended in 2005 no okay so i'm sorry i'm an old head too but anyways shout out to my zoom heads shout out to that zoom too when i was a kid they didn't have children's entertainment it was just the a team there was just actually a guy in the in the garbage yelling at you. That's what it was. That's right.

What is something you think is underrated, Billy? Isolation. Isolation is underrated. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I do think. I mean, I've always thought that. I think that's why stand-up lends itself to me because it's like I enjoy being by myself from extended periods of time so i feel like this

is probably i mean there's a good you know like everything there's a silver lining to this like where's people are going to have to learn to process when they weren't processing for a long time yeah yeah we're getting to know ourselves that's for sure. I do feel for the extroverts out there, the people who get their recharging from being around other people. My wife is an extrovert. I'm an introvert. I was built for this,

and I feel like it's got to be much harder for those people. I wouldn't know because I haven't talked to her in months. I can empathize with the extroverts to an extent, but then it's their whole thing that they don't shut the fuck up about it. Amen. Hey, shut the fuck up about it. I can feel you still have some energy. Could I have it?

Give it to me. Just sip it through a straw. Yeah. I wake up and my wife's just hunched over me and trying to inhale my soul from my face. My life force. I don't drink, so I forgot about it. I ran into a friend from a distance, and I was like, how's it going?

And he was like, I miss bars, man. And I was like, oh, I forgot all about that. I bet. Right. That is tough for the extroverted alcoholic. There was a Google search map where the word bar is being out-searched over the word shelter in place or how to be safe. People were just looking for bars.

I was kind of wondering, do you think... This is not a suggestion. I in no way endorse this idea. But has anyone else thought, oh, what if there was a coronavirus speakeasy? I've thought about it. I've thought about it. I've thought about it.

It's the hottest new club. They have to exist. You bring your papers. You bring papers or a test. Or the club is so lit, they have a testing facility right there. You get swabbed to the back of the skull. Exactly.

Did you see how far those swabs go into your skull? It goes really deep. Really? Yeah. They have to get the back of your eyeball with that thing that's what it looks like they're just going all the way up there man and fix your vision yeah hey while we're back there man that shit's not blurry anymore thanks guys can't smell though uh What is something you think is overrated?

Isolation. I'm losing my fucking mind over here, man. No, I'm actually doing very fine. No, I think what's overrated is people trying to get famous through this thing. I think that is one of the funniest, most overrated things. It's just like, you can see it online. People are like, this is my time.

Right. My time to shine, baby. And you're like, it is not. I'm not naming names. This business will continue after. Oh, so you're, okay, no, no. You're talking about entertainers, not politicians. Oh, no, yeah, politicians.

It's like anyone that's like a power hungry, this is their time because- I mean, yeah, I don't mean to ask to like get you to name names, but because like I've pretty much not been looking at social media much as part of my own like self-preservation plan. But like what are people doing

that is like so outwardly thirsty we're like oh you're really trying to get faint like you don't have to use names but just just i i've not i've not described the general behavior this is so juicy i just think it's becoming very clear who artists were and who the attention whores are, if that makes sense. Like, there are some people that are just, like, processing what's happening and trying to make art out of the situation. And then there are other people who are just like, here's my butthole.

I know you guys have never seen it before. But I can't do jokes. Sorry, I don't write. I dance around and I say things that are in the fucking whatever, but I can't do that right now. Right, right. But I need you to look at me, and I need eyes on me. And so it's been two weeks.

I got nothing. Here's my butthole. Like that's what it feels like to me when you're watching it, you're like you guys need to cool it right right it feels like there you can feel their anxiety come off the screen almost about performing the thirst oh it's just dripping where you're you can feel the difference too yeah when it's like someone that you're like oh you're just processing and then you're like, oh, this is an opportunity for you. I see, I see. Yeah.

Yeah, it's dark. Or my favorite thing is like comics that weren't working before are now like, hey, give me money to do comedy. And you're like, they weren't giving you money before. Right? Shit. Woo, yeah, yeah. Finally, what is a myth?

What's something people think is true you know to be false? That you can shoot the coronavirus with a 12 gauge You can't do it Are you sure? You can shoot the person that has it But it doesn't have to do with the virus That's a myth And we busted that myth in my neighborhood. Are you in touch with

folks from your hometown? Do you know anybody who's... Like my parents, yeah. I don't really talk to anyone else from my hometown. How's everybody back there doing? Or how are your parents doing with the quarantine i'm thankful that my parents are you know they're former teachers so they're used to being educated

and they believe in information so they're being being very smart for the most part yeah but i talked to them the other day and my aunt and uncle went to lowe's or home beeper or whatever it is and they had to leave because they're like, it's like Coronavirus Central there. There were people hugging, like high-fiving and stuff. Like they walked in and saw that and turned around like, this is a terrible idea. So I think like, I think part of it, and there's like two retirement community, large retirement communities in my home county that are going to get devastated because they're not paying any attention to what they should and shouldn't be doing.

My mom said, she's like, we're just staying away from there. She's like, it's very dumb how people are acting. Like just sort of like in denial about it, like they're just wanting to carry on for the feeling of feeling safe. I think there's that. I think there's a stubbornness to a certain generation that they all have. They're like, you can't tell me nothing, so there's that.

And then what I think is happening is that a lot of people, because they're afraid, are pushing that fear down, and they're like, well, it's not happening in, it's not happening in small communities. It's just in these big cities. So they don't change their behavior at all. Not realizing that like, yo people from those cities come to your small town.

And then it's, yeah. So I think that that's, I'm trying to keep them aware of that kind of stuff. Right, right, right, right. Yeah. There's a lot's, I'm trying to keep them aware of that kind of stuff. Right, right, right, right.

Yeah. There's a lot of, I mean, when you just look at it, the world health organization has a website that just debunks, uh, some of the myths about the Corona virus. And there's stuff like,

uh, that it can't spread in warm, humid climates that it can't spread in cold climates, that it's killed by snow. Killed by snow. That alcohol and sunlight kill it, that a bath kills it. I think everybody is hoping.

There's wishful thinking going on. How long do you think until there's a leech-based theory? I feel like leeches always come into the mix at some point. Oh, yeah. You've got to put them in the right spot though on your neck. Yeah. You got to really let them drain your neck.

And if it hurts, that means it's working. Mosquitoes can't spread it. That's one that I saw. One that I had actually heard and partially believed and done myself is that holding your breath for 10 seconds means you're good. It's like, Oh, you can hold your breath for 10 seconds. You don't have it in your lungs. That's not true. That's dumb. That sounds like something I believe, though.

Yeah. Yeah. I definitely believed it. All right, guys, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back with some news. I'm Dr. Laurie Santos, host of the Happiness Lab podcast. As the U.S. elections approach, it can feel like we're angrier and more divided than ever. But in a new, hopeful season of my podcast, I'll share what the science really shows, that we're surprisingly more united than most people think. We all know something is wrong in our culture, in our politics, and that we need to do better and that we can do better. With the help of Stanford psychologist Jamil Zaki.

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In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds, Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists, but the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. I mean, my reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful.

I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app,

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Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Hey guys. Hi. Hey. and we're back hey guys hi hey hey uh let's talk about the cuomos uh team cuomo uh chris the cuomo uh chris got it uh he's still gonna keep uh broadcasting from home um he's quarantining in his basement uh but i think he's he's fine uh miles you you think it's he's doing it for the ratings he went out he's doing it fredo's doing it for ratings bro he can't deal with his brother getting all this attention exactly

exactly now now he's got it but i don't. I'm okay enough to still do my show that keeps me on the TV just as much as my older brother does. Don't worry. I'm feeling fine. I mean, obviously, look, I wish him well. I'm glad he has no symptoms. But I was just thinking, when you read that line out loud where he says, I'm quarantined in my basement, I wonder how many dad jokes there have been where they're like, like yeah my dad's been quarantining in the basement for the last 17 years i just keep i don't know why i kept hearing a terrible punchline out of that sentence chaos yeah what my kids been talking to you man you don't we don't have basements jack in california they're death traps with all the earthquakes. Unless you've got a real old home. Anyways, Chris Cuomo once told me he has chunks of guys like me in his stool. So something to keep in mind anytime you think of him as a serious newsman. A good man? He is a good man. He really told you that?

Yeah, he did. I used to work at ABC News. What was his circumstance? He was just being fratty I called him Fredo And he was not a fan He's like that's like the n-word That's the n-word

He said that He said that quote Not in a joking manner What the chunks of guys like me in a stool Chunks of guys like you in my stool. He said that like a real person. Meanwhile, his brother is surging when it comes to his... People are starting to search Andrew Cuomo president.

As Joe Biden kind of disappears and reappears every once in a while to just misstate things uh andrew cuomo has kind of been at the forefront and you know showing some pretty strong leadership and uh the the question on everyone's mind i think is are his nipples pierced yes yep i think there's no question about it. There is a picture of him wearing a white polo where you can kind of see it pressed up against the neeps, and it's very clear that he has one of those barbells, like curved barbells.

Okay, look, this is the thing. Is it clear? Is it not? What's going on everybody from reddit to twitter has some kind of theory about what is going on with the governor's nipples what's going on with your nipples gov governor oh governor what's going on with your niplods so some people think it could be weird unruly hair an extra nipple in the shape of a little bar okay just like this is what people are saying this is this is what people are saying it could be montgomery's tubercles which are oil glands on the areola that resemble large pimples

more found commonly in pregnant women but men can have them also there are all kinds of medical reasons people just don't know i guess a lot of people don't want to maybe accept that he's freaky now this guy brian keith thompson who owns body electric this like tattoo place on melrose it look he's pierced people like fk twigs beyonce he's going bro i'm telling you i'm thinking it looks like a curved like curved barbell very common with nipple piercings and he's's like, and I feel, he's like, I watch, he says, quote, I watch Cuomo every morning when I get up. To me, he fits the bill for a nipple piercing.

He does. The kind of working out guy who would have one. He's got that energy. He does have that like, hey, I'm a serious man, but I like to have a little fun on the side. I'm not who you think I am. And you're like, yeah, you are. You're exactly who I fucking think you are.

So producer Ana Hosnia's face during this is so troubled. She's thinking about Chris Cuomo or Andrew Cuomo having pierced nipples. I just like the perspective of he's trying to get all this stuff. I mean, it's just the perfect metaphor for what government people who are actually trying to help and do stuff. And he's like, all right, we've got to set up field hospitals. We need boats. And then do we have any more questions?

And someone from the press is like, is your nipple pierced? Yes, next question. And he's like, yes, but we need more boats. Okay, all right, all right. No, a lot of people say because he recently got separated from his partner, Sandra Lee, from the Food Network, that maybe he's doing a little super power divorce move with his new nipple ring.

He's calling up Giada being like, guess what? Guess what I got? The Tiger King. He's like, let's put them. You got one on yours. I got one up here. Let's lock them.

Yeah. Ooh. All right. Let's talk Caroline. Caroline Calloway dropped an essay on the world, a world hungry for it. Jamie, is this from you? This is a Jamie Loftus

joint. The headline says it's Caroline Calloway essay day, which is celebrated in my culture. I will allow you to take it away. So this is, well, I want to say it's dumb bee culture, but it's more than that. I'll be delivering my full takes tomorrow, but basically I just want to get Zeitgang

familiar so they can prepare. This is your warning. I've brought her up once on the show and everyone was like, who is that? Okay, Gen Xers, here's who she is. brought her up once on the show and everyone was like who is that okay gen xers here's who she is caroline calloway is a uh human woman who has been criticized heavily for being a scammer which she sort of is but also as time goes on we realize maybe she's actually a genius so she she was criticized for um giving like these shitty classes and charging too much money for them. People were calling her a scammer in the way that they criticize all lifestyle people, rightfully so.

And then it escalated to the point where in September of last year, she became famous by writing these long Instagram posts that were about college. I don't know. It was like not... Yeah, like being in Europe and like the live and shit. It was all very like aspirational Instagram culture as it was her come up. And then there's this huge thing where her friend from college

wrote this 5,000 word essay for the cut. It was so fucking long about how actually Caroline Calloway didn't write her own instagram captions it was this other woman natalie beach which is like peak just all the white girl names are so good um it wasn't white girl name is in fact natalie beach it's natalie beach who's like aunt runs oprah magazine or something like weirdly specifically privileged like that. So Natalie writes this long essay and makes $5,000 doing it and makes all these accusations about Caroline.

Caroline fully leans into it and is like, yeah, call me a scammer. I don't give a shit. And then we're like, oh, no, I think Caroline Calloway might be fucking kind of punk rock. And then Caroline Calloway endorses bernie and we're like okay i'm even more on board now and now caroline calloway is finally releasing six months later her hotly anticipated response essay but you have to give ten dollars to direct relief which is a non-profit that provides doctors and first responders with personal protective gear in order to read it. So it dropped this morning.

She's already made over $10,000 off of this petty bullshit, and it's going to a good place. So I feel, first of all, I was following this whole... It is, yeah. She's actually doing it, unless this is the next scam but i don't i maybe this is like very jarecki robert durst but i'm like i'm inclined to trust her um but the whole thing like the whole response is because natalie beach was the one saying like i wrote all that shit she's a terrible friend and like calloway was kind of like on her instagram

stories like being half guilty and then so it's yes, but also hasn't responded until now. Basically, this is, this is like the official clap back to that. Cause I remember we talked about this cause it was like very millennial angst, like aspirational scammery type shit.

Yeah. It's just like, it's like aspirational privilege girl shit. But basically I think that what Caroline's responding to, I haven't read it yet, but I have given my $10 and it's also part one of three which is like like hello okay buckle up uh the trilogy we need in these times she's basically this is going to be a five million word essay about how natalie did write some of the instagram, but not as many as she led them to believe. And that Caroline wasn't upper middle class.

She was actually regular middle class. And so her accusations are baseless. I don't know. I'm like, I've been, maybe I've been blackpilled by Caroline Calloway, but I'm like, I'm kind of here for it. Wow. I don't understand how people can hate white people.

You know what I mean? We're the best i mean oh my god i mean i guess these are are these our new celebrities basically now because we're like i don't give a fuck about like kim kardashian was like i remember there was a tweet that was saying like we're checking in with kim kardashian west and how her family's doing in the quarantine and the replies are like fuck you we don't give a Kim Kardashian West and how her family's doing in the quarantine. And the replies are like, fuck you, we don't give a fuck about her. And now I wonder if it's like, hey man, remember that person who accused the other person of not writing their Instagram posts? They're our new Kim Kardashian.

Well, I'm just saying, if Kim Kardashian and Taylor Swift were helping people with their petty drama, I'd be more inclined to enjoy it. Oh, well, maybe they'll just give up a fraction of a percent of their wealth, which seems astronomical to working people, and then we'll pretend that they're hoarding it. And then get endless praise for it.

Yeah. Could be cool. So that's the Caroline Cowell. I'll debrief again tomorrow. Okay. That sounds good. Yeah. It seems like, I mean,

again tomorrow okay that sounds good yeah it seems like i mean like we i feel like the world respects a scammer now like this she is yeah the hero we deserve especially a scammer that's like that's right this is a scam yeah the whole world is like after everything like anything now the world's like yeah but what's your grift i don't anything now in the world is like, yeah, but what's your grift? I don't understand what your grift is. Like, what are you trying to make money off this bullshit? Like, that's where everyone in America is now. Like, well, you can't make money off doing stuff. What's your scam?

It makes me want Caroline on an episode of Scam Goddess. Oh, for sure. Covering herself. Yeah, Right. Self mythology. She would be a great guest on that. I feel like it. I feel like she's also kind of a metaphor for the Trump administration in the

sense that like Trump is a grifter and the mainstream media is just like, I mean, look, he's clearly, and people are like, yeah, no, that's the point.

We respect the fact that he's a fucking lying piece of shit. I like a magician that shows me their tricks. Right. That's what they're saying about Trump. I feel like that's just the direction, the horribly cynical direction our country is going in now. Maybe I've been blackmailed, but I don't hate it.

Jamie, try and get Caroline on Daily Zeitgeist. Dude! I'll DM her. Let's get her side of the story, man. I ordered a cameo from her to use in Boss Huma's Girl as a joke, and then it ended up just being funny, because

Caroline Calloway is actually smart and then I looked like a dumbass at my own show. Damn. I know. That's the tough thing about people that just want attention is that they don't. You can't beat them. If you're self

aware enough. They just want attention. Yeah, you can't. If you know like, hey, I don't care, positive or negative, as long as it's coming at me, that's what I want. You can't beat somebody like that. There's no... They're like, I got what I needed, and you're dying. Sorry.

I got my nutrients. Yeah. Bye. It's fun. Capitalism rewards people like that, too. That's a fun side effect. Oh, for sure. So there's a story out of China That divorce rates Have had a tendency historically To spike post quarantine

They saw this In the wake of the 2002-2003 SARS epidemic And They're expecting to see it again Now That more people are going to be filing for divorce, which definitely makes a whole lot of sense to me. are in a relationship that has any small fissures, those are going to turn into big old cracks

by the end of a long quar. I don't know the last time I heard the word fissures. Yeah, conversationally, I like to use it a lot. He brings it up at dinner too much, I'll be honest. It's interesting to read, though, too, that it said like 74% of the time women were initiating the divorces. Yeah, I know. Or at least in 2016, 2017.

So I wonder if it's just being like, yeah, I'm around this asshole so much that it's clearly like a bunch of men are clearly taking for granted their spouses in these situations. And they're just like, I don't know, man. I just let it pretty much i put the pedal to the metal on my laziness during a quarantine and apparently it repelled my partner i mean at this point we've got like the world's almost over we're on final wave feminism this this feels like good good news yeah there's that uh trend that we reported on of Japanese women filing for divorce once their husbands retire because they just like have to spend so much time around them. So I feel like it's just ungrateful dudes who are hard to spend time with are just causing divorce rates to skyrocket. I think that and they just don't see their spouses as partners.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Right. I think there's also a part of it, too, that goes back to our base instinct of being like, I need a partner that is stronger than me and can protect me. And then living through that quarantine, they realize it's not this motherfucker. It's not this motherfucker at all. Right. He can barely, I had to protect him's not this motherfucker. It's not this motherfucker at all. Right.

He can barely, I had to protect him most of this time. Yeah, shout out to everyone who's finding out that they're the protector suddenly in this situation too. The pendulum can swing very violently. But then there's also couples like

that are coming together in a cool way through this, where they're realizing, oh, I can't take care of this part. You can, and I'll go do this. I think that's a neat part of what's happening. I find myself doing a lot of, I don't know if this is true for anyone else, but I'm ghostwriting a lot of Instagram captions, text message clapbacks for my significant other just to be witty.

And I'm like, man, I don't know. She's like, something funny, something funny. And I'm like, come on. I don't know what to do right now. That's so nice. It's my new job. Ghost writing Her Majesty's text. And then I'm like, oh, did you tell him I punched that one up?

Because her brothers are real witty. And she got stung by a bee in her head. And they were like, she was like, she was texting back and forth being like, Oh my God, the bees got me. And her brothers just started hitting her with bee puns.

She's like, hurry, I need a bee pun quick. They've done this one and this one. And I was like, I don't know, say you expected this kind of be hivier from them. She's like,

perfect. It's like, perfect. It's like they loved it. No, you are not helping her. That is terrible, Miles. That's what you get. That's the price. I never said it was a quality service. Right.

They loved it. Just abject silence. They have no comeback for it. Yeah. Got them. Got them. They felt very bad for it. Got him. They felt very bad for us for saying that. There's got to be a

word for the anxiety, the intense anxiety that comes with being in a really witty Twitter back and forth with people who you can't think of. You can't keep up with them. I feel like there's probably a foreign language

word for that that we don't have in english so it's called getting john mayard because remember in that that jessica simpson book she's talking about when she dated john mayer he was so smart and witty she had to like get drunk to even text him back to like have the courage like a lot of credit for john mayer yeah well i mean look i'm not saying that we're i'm just saying the situation is one where it's uh someone feels yeah yeah yeah yeah look i think any of us we get in a text you mean the woman that thought tuna fish was chicken that lived in the ocean? Chicken of the sea. I don't know if it's chicken of the sea, by the sea, or what. I could see her thinking John Mayer was a little too smart.

I could see that. I feel like Jessica Simpson. It paints a brutal picture of her having the awareness that she is not up to the level. Yeah. That she was like, that's a bummer, man. No, you do not. No one should be in a position. You want to be just oblivious and floating through life.

You don't want it to be, God damn it. Why won't the smart thoughts come from this brain of mine? That's such a bummer. So I can do battle with John Mayer in the text arena. She's pushing a button. She's like, do it. Do it. Do it.

Come on. Yeah. I'm the Jessica Simpson defense force. John Mayer seems like a dumb bitch to me. I agree. No, no one's in here saying John Mayer's a genius. I'm just saying the situation in which these two are like, where John Mayer is causing someone stress,

I think is a tragedy to anyone. That's true. I mean, he's stressed out a lot of blonde women in his day. Yeah. It's well documented. Right. No, exactly. That's his entire thing. That's his entire thing.

That's his whole thing, yeah. He developed his entire personality to intimidate and stress out blonde women. And then wasn't his first song about Jennifer Love Hewitt, did he peak early or something? No, that wasn't his first song. The Wonderland song allegedly is about her. About her. His first records are like, he was in Atlanta singing lullabies to college girls.

That's what he was doing. Gross. He's so nasty. He's attractive. I mean, I've met him once. It is like, it's one of those things where you're like, and he's like pretty personable. He has like a good personality when you hang out with him. Yeah.

That doesn't. So we're going to let John. I'm not happy about it. I'm not happy about it. I'm just reporting the facts. Nobody's happy. Okay. He's like a hotter.

Dave Chappelle like thinks he's funny. He is kind of funny too. That's a problem. He's not that funny. But he's funny. He is kind of funny, too. That's a problem. He's not that funny. But he is funny. That's the problem. But Dave Chappelle thinks he is, and I want Dave Chappelle to think I'm funny.

He's not just a hot dude. I hate this. I hate that I have to be on here defending him. But he's not just a hot dude. The motherfucker can play the fuck out of the guitar. I don't like that fact either. He's a little funny, which also adds to his whole package,

and it sucks. I like how Billy Wayne is just working out his love of John Mayer. And I don't know why. It's beautiful the way he caresses the fretboard. It does magic. It makes me cry. Yeah, it makes meboard. It does magic. It makes me cry. Yeah, it makes me cry.

It's frustrating. Yeah. I also have a couple, he's friends of a couple friends of mine and I like them and they like him and they have the same response I do. We're like, no, I didn't want to like him. He's cool. It sucks. It sucks. That's how I feel about

Caroline Calloway. Exactly. That's exactly it. I don't want to love her, but God damn it. It's compelling. What are you going to do? Yeah, it's compelling. I hope I get a text from John Mayer who's like, thanks for defending me.

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you get your podcasts. Let's talk about a couple things that this quarantine, this global quarantine is revealing that I didn't realize. Like there's the weird way that this pandemic has revealed that labor is the major driver

of value in our economy. And usually it's not, it's not those dudes on wall street. Uh, April fool's. That's not true. It's obviously an April fool's. It's money.

It's just people that have money. That's all it is. Yeah. That's all we need. Uh, but also something I didn't realize is that apparently our weather forecasts are going to be getting a lot worse because a lot of the data that gets provided to meteorologists is coming from commercial aircrafts

because they're things that are in the upper atmosphere. There's not a lot of those. So the fewer planes that are flying, the worse our data gets. So that's something to keep an eye out for. Yeah, I guess no one's planning a wedding right now anyway. So it's not you're like, damn it, it's raining. It said it'd be clear skies today. Another good thing is that the whole world's climate

isn't drastically changing right now either. So like the storms and stuff aren't that bad. That's a good thing. Very manageable. Yeah, I mean, people were pointing out that this is a time when we're kind of entering extreme weather season with like tornadoes in the

Midwest and South and, uh, hurricanes and typhoons. So, um, that, that is something to hopefully they're able to overcome with like additional satellites.

And, uh, I know that there are some weather services that are working on that. Does anyone else just keep hearing Billy Bob Thornton from Armageddon saying over and over again, like, it's basically the worst parts of the Bible? A perfect line read from him. Yeah. So another thing we're learning is that the mob

is still out here in Italy. Yeah. I mean, they've been around, but yeah, they are all the unrest, obviously, all over the country like you know people i think look at the lockdowns in italy just being a bunch of happy people singing from their balconies but there's definitely a level of social unrest and discontentment with the situation there because people's paychecks are stalling out bank accounts are drying up people

aren't getting the answers or the kinds of relief that they want and that kind of unrest has been you know the a lot of authorities suspect that the mob is using these like facebook groups to sort of fan the flames a bit more to get you know a lot of people sort of amped up because it's sort of the what officials are saying is that they want to find an exploitable population to enlist for to bring into their racket. So, you know, they're just saying, I can get you loans. You can start working in the black market. You can do these other things.

And prior to this, like the government has done a lot to try and fight back the influence of it. But now they're saying, you know, this is from one of these experts in Italy saying, quote, in this difficult moment in which many families and entrepreneurs are in great difficulty, in a moment in which small and medium-sized enterprises are suffering from a devastating economic impact, the mafia is ready to intervene. They are ready to insert their liquidity, ready to offer it through usury to those who will then be strangled and enslaved by it, or simply offer it to those who will then be hired in the various organizations. So it's um

you know i think like anything when there's a lack of leadership or relief from a government alternatives begin to appear um and that's sort of you know how a lot of this stuff well that's cool because in the united states our government does that to people instead of the mob they are the mob yeah that's that's a cool thing, function about the United States is like, oh, there's a huge crisis. We can take advantage of this. That's interesting because if I just, I can just replace some words, offering loans and jobs to fill the vacuum, their liquidity.

I mean, when people are already getting those like, oh, God bless those low interest loans for small business owners rather than grants or no interest, like what, you know, there's already, we're asking them to go into that further. I got a quick word on the balconies that are unrelated. Yeah.

I'm feeling like stupid news today. There have been a couple of memes that have been going around with people you know how people are singing on the balconies everyone's like wow unity we're all in this together some people have been digitally adding in uh things that are clearly not uh the songs in order to trick celebrities into thinking. So basically, long story short, someone edited into one of the balcony videos an existing live version of a Katy Perry song where Katy Perry is not singing her own song very well, posted it, and was like,

wow, can't believe this whole balcony sang Roar. And then Katy Perry reposted it and thought it was real. Katy Perry was like, oh my God, so glad I can help during this time. But it was a scam. It was just her singing her own song badly. I love it. She dated John Mayer. She dated John Mayer.

She dated John Mayer, didn't she? She did. I mean, she's having Orlando Bloom's baby. She has to love herself. I don't know what's going on with her. Anyways, she got gotten and it was funny. She has to love herself. I don't know what's going on with her. Anyways, she got gotten, and it was funny. You hate to see it. I mean, again, it's so funny how people are weaponizing the unrest

or uncertainty for various aims, whether it's higher stakes like the mafia or just being like, I'm going to troll Katy Perry with a bad version of her own song. Or duping Katy Perry. That feels like a public service. I think celebrities are getting trolled in a way that they never have before, which I think is very fun to watch. Yeah.

Right. It's really like it's shining a light on their ego and how like, you're welcome, I'm here. And people are just like alright closer closer closer gotcha you mean I'm not universally beloved

surprise bitch I think just in general because I mean that is something that they have lived with right is that every time they show up somewhere people treat it like, you know, they are being, you know, blessed with their presence. And I think there's something about, you know, the leveling effect of all of us being in quarantine and about the revelations that

market economy and capitalism doesn't actually work and is completely bullshit, and the fact that we're interacting behind screens that just makes celebrities less. There's not that mystique, and we're all just like, yeah, fuck off, okay? You can honestly go fuck yourself. Yeah, they're the figureheads

for fucking off. I like it. I like it too. Let's talk about Carole Baskin, guys. Let's talk Tiger King. Billy Wayne, I enjoyed watching Tiger King with you remotely via Twitter. I liked your

observations on Tiger King. Do you have any overall things to say about Tiger King before we talk about what's going on with Tiger Carol Baskin? Well, I'll just repeat the tweet. To me, it's like, because everyone was talking about Danny McBride and Jody Hill and all those people. They're like, I can't wait to see their version of it.

They've already been making that version yeah yeah right and it and it just it explained why they're so popular is because that group of dudes david gordon green ben best jody hill and danny mcbride understand rural american characters and what really makes them tick and then this documentary shows actual people that are danny mcbride characters and you're just like as someone that grew up in the rural south like as soon as i turned it on i was like i know i know people like this i know people like this and then it kept going and i was like oh this is this and people like this is unreal i mean no this is very real if we're paying attention to what's happening and it's also weird i filmed a documentary in 2015 where i went around the

country doing different stuff and we went to a big cat lady in Nevada. So I have like a background of understanding these type of people. So it was like, none of it was shocking. I was waiting for the woman we went and visited to, because she's actually doing what a nut job lady says she's doing. Where she takes, she goes and rescues these cats from these places and just they're like she doesn't show them around we had to get permission to go visit this lady she lives out in the desert she's not making money off of it she married some rich dude and divorced him and that's what she's doing with her money is saving these cats so like immediately i was like

this lady's full of shit this is not someone that's really trying to help these cats right right right yeah so since tiger king has taken over america's skull in the last two weeks um people have started paying more attention to the disappearance of her husband uh in florida and there's more coming in. I think they reopened the case. They're trying to, the sheriff said that basically they're getting like on average six tips a day about the Don Lewis cold case of Carol Baskin's ex-husband or former husband,

deceased husband. Now, I mean, I don't know. It's hard to know if any of those are actually useful or a bunch of people who are just like, fuck husband. I mean, I don't know. It's hard to know if any of those are actually useful or a bunch of people who are just like, fuck yeah, I'll say something because I know a lot of the time tips aren't always that useful.

But I think it underlines the fact that, especially that dimension of that documentary is so fucking fascinating because it's such a clear, murky fucking murder. But it's just sort of like, eh, I don't know. And then we'll just move on. She did. His ex-wife and daughters are such like interesting characters.

Like each shot of them is like a really fascinating painting almost. Like they're just, uh, so such an interesting episode. Definitely the high point of the show, I think. No, he had,

he had dementia and the only person that really knew about it was carol so that explains it right right right right it's funny because like every time there's so many like additional details too that like you know whether it's the the person who had the the podcast that came out of like a while back or other articles around the characters in it i could fully just watch a dateline episode or series just about what the fuck is going on with don lewis and what they knew what all the pieces are because they had to truncate like i mean there's a lot i feel like that is not that didn't make the cut just in order to kind of keep the narrative going but like

there's so many added details even to like things with joe exotics trial where i want to fucking like i want a full-on series here like i need to know what happened to don lewis well that attorney uh he led everybody to believe that he knew what happened right remember he was like oh he got pushed out of a whatever or something like like like he he was like, oh, he got pushed out of a whatever or something. He was like... He was knocked off, too. Man, Joe Exotic and Carole Baskin are equally bad, but in a way that you need more on both of them. Carole deserves her own series because she's that much of a villain.

I was fully exhausted by Joe Exotic by the end. I did not want any more on him. I'm sick. When you don't have to sleep ever, it's hard to be around. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Like at a certain point when they were like, and he was always on meth, and they just show him like walking around firing a gun in the air, and you're just like, oh, well, that's less surprising like that's that's about what i would expect from the the moment i knew he was on meth is when he's on that four wheeler on the walkie talkie chasing a tornado that's when i was like that is out of his

fucking gourd on drugs well i know that I know that these docuseries, they very strategically withhold information, but I'm like, you didn't need to withhold that piece of information for so long. By the time they're like, and he was on meth, you're like, why did you tell me this in episode five? I felt clear on that. I didn't know that that needed specifying.

Yeah, yeah. I was fully, I did not think, i didn't enjoy watching the show by the last episode but it goes in places that are really interesting but like the last episode i was just like yeah no i know all this shit i think you just gotta watch the jinx again yeah that's right no durst erasure well it's also it's a testament to our president, too. It's the same type of people. It's the same person. Completely immoral.

It's tough to box that person and catch them in, because there's never a point where they're like, all right, you got me, I'm a bad person. They're always being persecuted, so they'll say or do anything to get out of it. And it's a whole world of those people, which is what makes it fascinating. Right.

The Twitter thread from the guy who did the podcast on Joe Exotic, where he's just... That was as interesting as anything that I've seen in the news for a long time because he was just like, yeah, you guys talked about that on yesterday's episode, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Just the, the trail of burned down houses. The burned down houses. Another thing I just need to know about. He just keeps burning people's houses down. That is.

Everyone pisses them off. Well, that's the demon people that they're chasing. That's a meth thing. Yeah. That happened in Seattle. There was a guy that he ran those duck boats. You remember those?

Oh, yeah. The kind that just drive into the water? Yeah. He was a former comedian, and he was in charge of the duck boats in Seattle, and then he was on meth one night, and the phantoms were after him, so he set the thing on fire. Oh, a duck boat on fire. What a after him. So he set the thing on fire. Oh, a duck boat on fire. What a gorgeous visual.

No, not the duck boats. Because you can't set those motherfuckers on fire. Those are World War II boats. I was going to say, those are like pigs. He set the office on fire because the phantoms were coming together. Yeah, the amount of those. It's like everything had the same sequence. Someone got wronged. They start asking questions. Their house burned down. Yeah. Just like, okay amount of those. It's like everything had the same sequence. Someone got wronged. They start asking questions.

Their house burned down. Yeah. Just like, okay, fuck around. It's mad. Then find out how your house burned down. Then he followed the reality show producer back to Dallas, possibly, and almost burned his house. Yeah, and his house burned down. And then now he's had to flee to Norway.

Do you know how few people I know whose houses have burned down? Very, very few people's houses burned down these days and it's just like everybody around this dude just like their houses end up burning i remember it used to be a thing it used to be a thing where like you knew because it was so rare that you're like yeah just so you know like patricia like her family's house burned down like when she was eight. Like that's like a thing you knew, like the one kid in town whose house. It's not like, oh, yeah, yeah.

How many houses did you have burned down? Five? Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Like it was very rare. Yeah. Far less common these days. We had a house burned down in the neighborhood. But it was a strategic burn down.

No one was hurt. They got their insurance money and then they skipped town. Hell yeah. down no one was hurt they got their insurance money and then they skipped town hell yeah i like when joe recorded his lawyer telling him to destroy that evidence that's my that's one of the best parts of the that's that's another perfect meth moment yeah right yeah there's just so many threads out there just being weaved at the same time that he can't keep track of all of them because i'm gonna record that my lawyer my saul goodman lawyer telling me to do bad stuff all right guys what's what's some quarantine activities we can share with people

uh i see some good ones on here i've just been uh just bbc america has been putting a lot of good nature documentaries on if you you need that, that nice, nice background looking at earth imagery. That is, it's wonderful to have on the background. It's also something, if you've got kids that you can like have on the background and it's not, you know,

there's some violent stuff that happens, but, uh, for the most part, it's just beautiful and, uh, stuff that you don't have to worry about them seeing and they'll, they'll get bored with it. So it's just on in the background.

I've been raising a 13-month-old. Oh, yeah? Yeah, that keeps you busy. Isaac brought a slug in from outside and was like, we're going to have a pet slug. And then we put it in a Tupperware with some soil and then this morning the slug was gone yeah they disappeared yeah so we don't have a pet slug that's so i wouldn't recommend that activity but you know i can't stop you did you put salt on it because

they love that we didn't that's their favorite snack right yes i love a little salty snack every once in a while so there's like yeah there's a slug somewhere in the house i don't know no there's not where'd it go they dry up oh it's gone it was a little guy it was just a little one so maybe he just he's gone yeah he's in oh he's with john mayer now he's been oh the other thing i think is important just for people in the quarantine is to like realize that the time you have at home is not the same free time that you have when you are working uh and i think a lot of people put the pressure on themselves they're like man i got all this free time man like i gotta fucking do this i gotta i gotta learn i gotta do all this

other shit you know take give yourself a second to just like breathe and exist for a second because i think it's a lot of misplaced emphasis on however you may take this time you have at home and what it means for your productivity and i think you have to realize that like the product productivity gear was burning out prior to this whole quarantine and i think now that we have this time really just like don't don't put that pressure on yourself let do things that make you feel good or relaxed or whatever but there's no need to like i i see people torturing themselves to being like you know i thought i would write like 40 pages a day of this thing i'm doing and you know i got all this time now it's like you you you have free you that that time seems free relative

to the thing that you have to do for your survival and now that survival is the main thing just you know let that sink in for a moment yeah yeah and and it's like you know you don't have like it's i feel like the the productivity complex because i i get like stuck on that sometimes but it's also like yeah it's okay to feel like shit about stuff. Just because you have the time doesn't, no one's mentally up to it right now. Right. And you're not alone in that at all.

I am. I'm mentally up to everything right now. Yeah, especially with an 18 month adult at home yeah and we'll see how up when I transfer this audio we'll see how up to I am nothing more energizing than taking care of a infant

alright well guys this has been a pleasure Billy Wayne great having you as always anytime I'm not going anywhere thank you where can people find you follow you Guys, this has been a pleasure. Billy Wayne, great having you as always. Anytime. I'm not going anywhere. Thank you. Where can people find you, follow you? If you just Google Billy Wayne Davis,

whatever your preferred way of finding me will come up. Also, we are currently editing and putting together the first season of a podcast about the communities and people that grow marijuana. So that'll be out April 20th. Oh. Get it? Get it. Hitler's birthday. Hitler's birthday.

Oh, no. And Billy Wayne, is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? I mean, it's kind of morbid, but it's kind of a dark joke I like right now. It's Phil Henry. I don't know if you guys, he's an old radio DJ. His show is amazing. He would just do different voices.

Look him up. He's great. But he just tweeted this morning, just got your ratings, Trump. 2,950 dead. Jesus. There you go. I like that kind of humor. Jamie, where can people find you, and what's a tweet you've been enjoying?

You can find me, Jamie Loftus Help, on Twitter, Jamie Christ Superstar on Instagram. I'm going to shout out my good pal, Christina Catherine Martinez, at Xtina underscore Catherine. She tweeted this morning, going through my Venmo feed and commenting, boo, on anything marked April rent. That's right.

Miles, where can people find you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, PlayStation Network, Miles of Gray, at Miles of Gray, and also my other podcast, 420 Day Fiance, that I do with Sophia Alexandra, talking about 90 Day Fiance. A tweet that I like is from Andrew T, at Andrew T.I. Two tweens sneak out of their houses, meet in the middle of the street and hug each other. And in judging them, I realized I was simultaneously the villain in a teen movie and the hero of a zombie movie. Some tweets I've been enjoying.

Of Mike Eagle tweeted, I don't think handshakes are coming back from this. And Zach Bornstein tweeted, raisins are great when you're cooking a yummy dish and then right at the very end you're like how do I make this awful I don't like reasons you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien you find us on Twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on Instagram we have a Facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on miles what are we riding out on today a track from wild nothing called foyer uh and it's just got like you know good vibes

a really nice picked bass line that i personally really enjoy and you know their whole vibe is very like dreamy 80s synth poppy but updated version so it's nice to have in the background to you know just it just feels like you just entered a nice house exactly something yeah like where you feel like you're in a villain's house in an 80s movie or something but it's a kid that's got, and that's all that matters. Give yourself some vibrations with this one. All right. Well, the Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio.

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