The Daily Zeitgeist - Curtains For Weinstein, LEAVE LUCILLE BLUTH ALONE 5.25.18

Episode Date: May 25, 2018

In episode 156, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Ify Nwadiwe to discuss Harvey Weinstein's arrest, the toxic masculinity still running rampant in Hollywood as seen in the Arrested Development cas...t interviews, Trump teasing the possible rescheduling of the peace talks summit with North Korea, the federal government losing track of almost 1,500 migrant children, the problem with 'the good guy with a gun' that conservatives and the NRA love so much, a look at the new Han Solo film, and more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:26 That is courtesy of Belbiv Devoe And my big butt And I am thrilled to be joined As always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray This is how we do it It's Miles Gray night And I feel alright And the party's here on the zeitgeist Thank you Chapman Rice for that
Starting point is 00:02:44 You know that's actually my karaoke song if you ever go to karaoke with me manso jordan this is how we do it every time uh and i love it so thank you chapman thank you for power ak's this weekend hopefully you'll black out and three in the morning and do like 70 like you do still not concerned about your sleep cycles do what you gotta do i heard that she does it like Keith Richards wrote The Hook for Satisfaction, where he actually just has it on a tape recorder and doesn't remember actually recording it. Anyway, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat. Bye.
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Starting point is 00:03:30 Boop. Boop. If it is scoop. Boop. If it is scoop if it is scoop poop poop if it is scoop if it is scoop poop poop if it is scoop i wanted to do that with the g mix i know i had a michael buble album and someone it was early michael buble where he was just doing Frank Sinatra covers. And I remember I was in high school, and I tried to give – and he was like my American history teacher, and I know he liked all that swing music and Frank Sinatra. So I was like, oh, you should play this. I think you'll really like it. And he looks at it, and he goes, Michael, bubble? He was like, no.
Starting point is 00:04:02 And he was so sure I was trying to trick him into playing rap music. And I was like, no. And I finally got on the list. He was like, oh, it's really good. I was like, yeah. I'm like, I'm not going to. I like that. He looked at me, and he's like,
Starting point is 00:04:14 oh, this must be some rapper, Michael Bubble. Michael Bubble wearing a suit. This white man wearing a suit. You're not going to trick me. Well, it was a blank CD, and it just had Michael Bublé written on it. Yeah, man. He's one of the I guess great crooners. And there was an accent
Starting point is 00:04:27 over the U which I don't think was correct in retrospect. Yeah, it might have been over the E. Iffy. First of all, you are the first guest on the Daily Zeitgeist to say your own name before I could say it. So I appreciate that. I appreciate the help.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I was just looking at him in a panic i was looking through the window i was in the window and i was very confused yeah i could tell i'm it was it was a mess but we're gonna keep it because you guys should know how badly things are going that this is how a second rate podcast is ran second at best if he would have something from your search history that is revealing about who you are as you can see because i snipped it and pasted it in there look at that the beginning of back that ass okay because i was uh i was putting in a taped audition and i always feel bad about just because normally you just put like whatever the character is and the role that it's from my new thing is to kind of put something funny in the description
Starting point is 00:05:21 so i was like cash money records from the 99. I was like, I feel like there's more. And it's like, yeah, from the 99 and 2000s. And then I was like, an audition from Ify. So that's what I searched. Wait, that's what they say at the beginning of That's That Ass Up? Yeah, it's right after the beat drop, which I was thinking about it too,
Starting point is 00:05:41 because the top comment on the YouTube video I found from this was like, this was like the best beat drop. And it was. Like when you heard that, dun, dun, dun, dun, you were like, oh, it's about to go down. Yo, that was like some junior high shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Or was it around high school maybe? Yeah, just run to the dance floor. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was like, and I'm trying to figure out what would be the new generations back that ass up. When you hear it, yeah, try and tweet that at a site, yeah. It was like, and I'm trying to figure out what would be the new generation's back that ass up. When you hear it, yeah, try and tweet that at a site, gang. What do you think this generation's back that ass up? Just off the intro.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Yeah, off the, just once you hear the first few beats of the intro, what has you run into the dance floor? Probably Bodak Yellow. Ooh, yeah. For me. No, actually. Cardi. I'm like, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Once you hear that, doom, doom, doom. Oh, yeah. It's like, don't you hear that Oh yeah it's like Oh yeah that's a good That's for me right now Miles is pushing kids down Out this way Get the fuck out of my way I'll wet these kids in here What is something that's overrated?
Starting point is 00:06:34 Overrated This is Very related It's shock value And I've been noticing Like And the reason I say shock value Is if you
Starting point is 00:06:42 Aren't aware Pusha T just dropped A fire album today. Daytona. Daytona. It's so good. But for the cover, they used Whitney Houston's drug- Bathroom.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Bathroom counter. From the height of her addiction. And he paid lots of money for it. And I'm sure he was trying to make a point. But the point is that Pusha T sold drugs. So it was just for the shock but i'm you know fucking tasteless yeah it's tasteless and i i gotta admit you know in the peak of it like you know making fun of whitney's addiction that was like the end thing but then you have to think
Starting point is 00:07:18 about how there aren't that many black heroes so like like you know we don't have to shit on underline yeah shit on her legacy like you know drug addiction aside she still has been and probably no one has topped her as one of the best kind of singers of our time and well fergie yeah yeah that best national anthem again except for fergie yeah let's not get ahead of ourselves i'll on. Let's do it. Yeah, no, it's just one of those things where it's like, yeah, she's dead. Why do we have to remind people of her addiction? That was such a, you know. Well, wasn't it Kanye's call? Yeah, of course it was.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Yeah, and he's like, and then we're going to make it look all fucked up. Yeah. Because that's my new aesthetic is just not much creativity, but make it look fucked up. But I know the main reason about that, it's the same reason he kind of said the, you know, Candace Owens type shit is he wants to garner like a, you know, shock. And it's like, there's more to that. And I feel like their shock value is kind of dead in this era only because we have real shocking things happening almost every day.
Starting point is 00:08:22 So we don't need that emotion. We're so tired of being shocked yeah i feel like the shock value like the like a good golden time for shock value is when things are so boring and bland that you need to shake things up i don't think i think we need to start calming things down right around yeah well you could still do something with shock value that isn't just you know absent of real critical thinking that it starts crossing over into just offensive material you know what i mean like you can have a commentary on the state of selling drugs in the hood or the drug war and mass incarceration without just being like hey man
Starting point is 00:08:55 remember how fucked up wouldn't houston got yeah that's like and it's the same shit of why kanye is a just a superficial thinker he can only think at the first level of oh this will be offensive which will mean they'll think and that's the commentary rather than yeah am i kicking somebody that's down and already you know women of color have enough struggles that they deal with to to them be like yo and this is your legacy yeah you can show so many other images that like i do like the idea my one critique of breaking bad was that they never showed the downside of all this drug dealing, which is all the addiction and people's lives are ruined. So, I mean, having a cocaine rapper have his cover be just the horrible, disgusting downside of cocaine addiction is kind of an interesting idea. But, yeah, we don't need to show whitney houston's i mean he's
Starting point is 00:09:46 still gonna be spitting those those coke bars you know right yeah yeah while his brother malice is now in the church yeah so i know he found god see malice that's probably if anything this is a win for malice because he's like see that's why i had to step away you know this is this is that's the devil at work yeah oh my god yeah if, what is something that is underrated? Self-care, y'all. Self-care. And the reason it kind of jumped into my mind is I had one of my friends, one of my, like, super activist friends kind of really shitting on the royal wedding and people being, quote, unquote, distracted by it when there's shit going on. And I popped in in i was like well
Starting point is 00:10:25 here's an unpopular counterpoint people of color are dealing with so much stress every day we every day we're getting some news like we just found out that ice lost 1400 like immigrant children right and just shit like that every day that, like, if for one Saturday you can just take your mind off of it all just to focus on this wedding, I think that's good for you and your mental health. Like, there really was. I did a tweet not too long ago where I was like, I was feeling real down. And I realize it's because I've just been reading all these news stories. And I think it was that one week where every day somebody – I think it was last week.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Yeah, because I was fucking angry most of that week. Because it was like every day someone called the cops on a black person for no reason. There was a black person being assaulted by the police. And it just was like, oh, yeah, taking in all this, it does take a toll. We think we're just strong enough to like take it and be angry. But you do need to like take a step back and do something outside of this realm. Like log off of Twitter. Don't check news.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Like take an hour to do something that's relaxing. And I don't mean watch like Handmaid's Tale or Seven Seconds. That's going to get your blood going. Or Black Mirror or some shit. Yeah, like something just dumb and fun. Get a massage. Go to the Wii just dumb and fun. Get a massage. Go to the Wii spot. Like smoke.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Take a huge rip off the bomb. Do whatever you got to do. And just like release some of that stress because it is – we are at a point in time where every day, especially if you're an empath, a super empathetic person, you are having that part of your brain just pulled on because there's so much going on. And you never think, especially, you know, the aspect of self-care for people of color is just so foreign anyway. I feel like the new age people of color who are like, oh yeah, therapy is a good thing. Our parents have been like, no, you rest when you're dead.
Starting point is 00:12:19 What you're crying about. So yeah, definitely make sure you get some self-care. So if you do feel yourself feeling kind of sad or angry and you're like, I don't know why, maybe take a second to just take a breather. Get back to you. Whatever that makes you happy. Maybe you play music. Maybe you like to write.
Starting point is 00:12:36 You want to paint. You want to go to the museum. Do all that. You know, around here, as you may have seen on my Instagram stories, Jack and I like to just fuck up flies with an electric sliding thing. I saw that because I was here the other day and I was like, oh, I didn't know you guys were upstairs fighting a fly the whole time. Yeah, man. It was epic yesterday.
Starting point is 00:12:53 They make a, basically it's a bug zapper, like one of those things you hear at night in the summer, like when you're in the woods, it's just like, like you hear the bugs being electrocuted. They make one of those in the shape of a fucking tennis racket, and you just like fucking kill you. It's the most satisfying thing in the world. We looked insane, and people were commenting, they're like, oh, we've gotten to that episode in Breaking Bad now. Right, the bottle episode. I just want to say, Ify, this is why you're one of the greats.
Starting point is 00:13:22 This is probably the most core to the zeitgeist conversation we've ever had around one of an over, under. Because, yeah, I totally agree with that. And there is something about the zeitgeist that instead of shock value, we're craving wholesomeness and self-care and meaning relationships. There was just something about that royal wedding that I accidentally was up for it and it just felt like damn, we needed it. Look how you still qualify. I was up
Starting point is 00:13:53 practicing some hoops and it just happened to be on the TV. So I was doing jujitsu with my son. I was doing tai chi. But yeah, I happened to turn it on and I'm now going to wake up intentionally for the next royal wedding because yeah it just felt
Starting point is 00:14:09 like something I needed what's the next one going to be one of William's kids? I guess I don't know start the clock see you in 33 years and finally what is a myth if you want something people think is true that you based on your personal experience know to be false
Starting point is 00:14:23 well the fact is and I'll say the myth and then i'll say where it came from okay and the myth is women fought in world war ii like and i feel like some people might be like yeah duh but here's here's what what happened i'm a big battlefield fan i've been playing battlefield since battlefield bad company oh yeah been along for the franchise and i had like that weird uh yeah like blues piano opening the menu screen yeah i remember that and and like i've been playing since four one and now we're on five play hard line too yeah i played hard line it was trash it was so trash but it was funny because you know people when one came out all the four fans were mad because they wanted Modern Warfare. And they're like, oh, we're doing World War I. And so they got really mad because they thought, you know, Battlefield V would be another Modern Warfare.
Starting point is 00:15:11 But instead it's World War II, even though everyone all kind of knew it because that's the, you know, just a progression of shooters right now. Like Modern Warfare has been played into the ground. Futuristic Warfare has. So, yeah, we got to go back to the basics. futuristic warfare has. So yeah, we got to go back to the basics. Anyway, that aside, there's been a huge slew of these idiot gamers who've been like, you know, it's just historically inaccurate. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:15:31 There's something else I have to explain. So in a lot of the Battlefield game, they have a hero soldier on front. Uh-oh. Battlefield 1's controversy was that the hero soldier was black. Black. Oh, God. Black people fighting the war? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:43 So not to be outdone battlefield 5 has a woman on the cover there you go and people are losing their shit they're saying it's historically inaccurate and all this and i even or the hashtag not my battlefield i saw that shit i was like what the fuck is and it's just because there's a woman on the cover and they're saying it's historically inaccurate when like a simple google search will let you know all the instances of women fighting in world war ii yes uh and just to run down a few italian uh attack forces had women in them uh the british trained women to man aa cannons uh yugoslavian forces enlisted women and men equally yeah and uh there was the russian sniper squad mila pavlichenko yeah, who we talked about, I think, on our Veterans Day episode, we were talking about women who were fighting too because that is an often, I guess,
Starting point is 00:16:31 disregarded piece of history because it doesn't conform to the narrative like, yeah, men fight wars. Yeah, but it's so funny because it is like the idea of people trying to use false history to justify their bigotry in the same way that whenever there's a black person in a fantasy, they're like, well, black people didn't exist in Middle Eastern Europe when we did. Not Middle Eastern Europe, medieval Europe. I was like, one, they did.
Starting point is 00:16:55 There's tons of art that shows that. Two, it's a fantasy. So why even is that a case? But even to your point, you're wrong. And it's this idea of this revisionist history to justify, It's a fantasy. So why even is that a case? But even to your point, you're wrong. And it's this idea of this revisionist history to justify, in my opinion, lazy writing and just whitewashed, male whitewashed writing. And it's funny that people are really trying to – because there was this guy on Reddit that I kind of ran down the stats. I just ran down who's like, yeah, yeah you know as a video game and history nerd this makes me annoying i was like oh as a history nerd then you are very aware of this this this and
Starting point is 00:17:31 this and he still hasn't replied which means by internet rules i won yeah exactly shut the fuck up yeah yeah i'm a fan of history i'm sorry what what do you consider history yeah just like the idea like historic video games. Yeah. And the movie A League of Their Own. In that one, the women stayed home and played baseball. Fuck yeah, dude. I love history.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Saving Private Ryan, Full Metal Jacket, shit like that. Yeah. Please read the story of Night Witches if you don't know about soldiers, female soldiers in World War II. The most badass battalion of soldiers was this Russian group called the Night Witches. I think we've mentioned them before on the show, but they would take old-timey World War I era planes and fly in over German territory and then cut the engine so they were just gliding.
Starting point is 00:18:20 So it was silent and then just hand-drop bombs out the side of their things on the people. And people called them Night Witches because you like hear them laughing as they coasted off. Like after like blowing your ass off. Are you sure that's history though? Where are you reading that? Is that an oxygen movie? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, doggy. Yeah. Is that an oxygen movie? It should be. All right. Let's get into what's happening today in the news. We're going to talk about two alternate stories involving Hollywood toxic masculinity. First of all, in good news, Harvey Weinstein turned himself in, was led out of the police precinct in handcuffs.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Looked like he was pretty high, to be honest. He was like smiling and you know probably totally zanned out it's not clear what was going on there but he thought it was hilarious that people were looking he's a fucking sociopath monster so i could also see him just being a fucking psycho and just being like i mean you we all know the Bill Cosby lean that he busted out. I will say, was hilarious. Just because of how ridiculous it was. Underlines just sort of how disconnected he is from just Earth, essentially. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:19:36 There was this weird thing that was happening for the past six, seven months where he was, you know, we were reading all these stories about him committing actual rapes and, or attempted rapes in some cases and just sexual assault and all, all sorts of shit. And then you'd see pictures of him like golfing in Malibu and it's just like, what the fuck is happening? So this finally feels like there's a little bit of closure on that story. Well,
Starting point is 00:20:02 he had handcuffs on, didn't he? Yeah. He had, he actually had three pairs of handcuffs on because of his girth. He was not able to get a fit into a single pair. Oh, because he couldn't get his arms
Starting point is 00:20:12 behind his back like that? Yeah, exactly. What happens if you can't? Would it just stretch your chest out? Well, that's just a Weinstein benefit because if you are a person of color and can't get your hands behind your back, they're damn near disconnected. They just pop your shoulder out. Yeah, they'll shoot you are a person of color and can't get your hands behind your back, they're right.
Starting point is 00:20:25 They're just pop your shoulder. Yeah. Yeah. They'll shoot you in the back of the head. He's going to plead not guilty. But, you know, some of his victims are coming forward and saying they didn't know how much this was going to help. Rose McGowan said, I have to admit, I didn't think I would see the day that he would have handcuffs on him. But now I have a visceral need for him to have handcuffs on. So yeah, he posted a million dollar bail. He turned
Starting point is 00:20:49 himself in and had a million dollar cashier's check on hand. And so it was immediately, you know, set free. But he has a one of those tracking bracelets on and is not allowed to leave New York or Connecticut and had to turn his passport into. So he's out there if anybody wants to walk around New York until you run into him. Yeah. No, that's what's so wild about bails is like, yeah, a million dollar bail. He was like, OK, here you go. You know, and, you know, that's a whole other thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Cash bail and how that shit works and, you know, how people with money are able to just instantly free themselves while people in lesser situations are basically like oh i'm gonna have to stay in prison that's one of those things that like trying to explain to our kids like oh yeah if you have enough money you can just like pay to get let free when you do a crime and you can hang out until the judge is like okay what would you do unless you don't have enough money yeah and i just want to point out because i saw this earlier this morning a senior staff attorney uh scott hetchinger tweeted out uh he was like my client stuck on rikers charged with quote-unquote violent felonies for stealing bikes for resale value to support his addiction first arrest ever no actual violence
Starting point is 00:22:00 meanwhile weinstein is free to live in his mansion, travel freely around New York and Connecticut and elsewhere with permission to systems. And that's true. It's like the difference between someone just violently raping multiple women and a guy stealing bikes because he has a addiction problem just shows the problem with the system. Well, yeah. And again, that's why they need more progressive sort of bail reform that it's actually relative to what you can afford. Yeah. So someone like Harvey Weinstein used to be like, yo, can you put up fucking 20 million? Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:30 And maybe he only had to pay 10%. I'm actually- Well, yeah, it's your bond. Yeah, that's the bond. So he put up 100 million. So it's $10 million bail, but you only have to post 10%. Oh, okay. So that's even easier.
Starting point is 00:22:39 $10 million bail and he posted a million of it. Yeah. So you pay 10%. Like that's how you know anyway yeah me neither i have i have when i was wrongfully arrested by the police in watts california uh that sounds fishy to me i don't buy it i know did you see those pictures i posted on facebook with guns you know right so i also wanted to talk about a more subtle form of toxic masculinity that was visible in this New York Times interview with the Arrested Development cast ahead of the release
Starting point is 00:23:14 of season five of Arrested Development. So the cast is talking and, you know, the interviewer brings up Jeffrey Tambor's, you know, rumored misbehavior on the set of Transparent, sexual harassment and just verbal harassment. And the interviewer says, you know, Jeffrey, in talking about that, you even talked about how you at one time, like, lost your temper with Jessica Walter, his co-star who plays Lucille Luth. And it just turned into this thing where, you know, Jessica Walter started crying and was talking Lucille, Luth, and it just turned into this thing where Jessica Walters started crying
Starting point is 00:23:47 and was talking about how she had never been treated that badly, and then all the men in the room started just doing this thing. They're basically gaslighting her. No, it wasn't that bad. See, this is kind of how it works. This is the process. Relationships on set get like this.
Starting point is 00:24:02 The 77-year-old actress doesn't know how the process works, apparently. And who probably was in Hollywood at the worst of it. It really felt like you're eavesdropping on a dysfunctional family having a dinner conversation in the 50s. Because they were like, Mom, come on. Get over it, Mom. You're being hysterical. All the sons were.
Starting point is 00:24:21 And Aaliyah Shawkat tried to kind of stand up for jessica walter and was like yeah but the point is now things have changed that's not right this is no longer okay which big ups to alia shawkat i gotta say i got the biggest crush on her just yeah yeah me too all around just well then yeah then immediately it was just immediately like kind of oh yeah because there she didn't really get another word yeah jason bateman really i think he kind of... Oh, yeah, because they're... She didn't really get another word in edgewise. Yeah. Jason Bateman really, I think he kind of really took the lead on... He came out looking like a fucking idiot. And I was like, as someone who really loves Arrested Development, it was really difficult for me to hear this because I was like, damn, y'all fucking suck.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Yeah, especially because Jason Bateman, he knows a lot about acting. I mean, he has 88 credits as an actor on IM imdb compared to jessica walters 155 so he knows a lot so he knows a lot more coming up as a white man in the yeah you know he just knows so much it's it's just like we have to understand at least the one thing that makes him not fully canceled at least in my opinion is that at least his his apology was like coherent most people would be like oh yeah i i didn't mean to offend her in that way still bro you shouldn't have fucking puffed your shucks out like that yeah man it was one of those things where it looked like a lot of the men on this cast they were just having trouble accepting that maybe their bro jeff wasn't the best guy well the way explain it away, the way I always look at it is I find that men jump to the defense of other shitty men just because of the idea that they hope someone does the same for them if they get caught up.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Right. Because and it's and it's it's a whole process in their head where like they're going to be falsely caught up for something. I did air quotes. He's going to they're going to be falsely caught up by something and they're going to need somebody to defend. So like, it's kind of like that idea of like, if you see an older woman being mistreated, you're going to,
Starting point is 00:26:10 you know, try and step in for, because you want somebody to do that for your mom. And I think it's the same difference where it's like a subliminal thing where it's like, I got to step up for him because I need, I'm going to need someone to step up for me. Maybe it might not even be that transactional.
Starting point is 00:26:23 It could just be that you're in denial about your behavior so you defend it because you're just in denial that there could be something wrong and then you try and explain it away like talking about his process or the relationships on set like what i mean honestly jeffrey tambor really working his process so much to say all those funny lines that you got to scream at your fucking co-workers right yeah and sounds like he's just like a fucking abusive co-worker yeah we've all had them or at least i have and like you know there's no excuse for that and they exist in every industry and also yeah don't talk about your fucking process bro just to do what i always do best and make it about race that's only white men who can get away with that right there's like marshall ollie isn't going to be busting any of
Starting point is 00:27:04 that out because he'll be fired so quick. Even now, even now as an Oscar winning actor, if he tried any of that stuff, they'd boot his ass off set real quick because there's a- He's very angry. He's very angry.
Starting point is 00:27:14 You know, especially since he's Muslim, you know, I've heard the stuff about that, you know. But yeah, no, it is like a
Starting point is 00:27:22 artistry that's afforded to white performers where it's like, I can be a dick and all this stuff. You know, even the same way, like we hear stories of this. Even when Christian Bale like wigged out on that person, like everyone was like, oh, man, he's yeah, he must have been real focused. You know, you know, and then my man Kanye says Cosby innocent and everybody freaks out. You know, we don't get the, we don't get the, we don't get the benefit of the doubt. Those magma takes. I mean,
Starting point is 00:27:47 honestly, like, let's not, don't play yourself here, listeners. Lucille Bluth is the better character of the two of them anyway. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Oh, by far. I fuck with Lucille Bluth so hard because she is a savage. Okay. George, okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:28:03 You started all this bullshit off. Great. But at the end of the day, my God, I mean, I just think of all the memes I love to share with Lucille Bluth. Okay. George, okay, fine. You started all this bullshit off. Great. But at the end of the day, my God, I mean, I just think of all the memes I love to share with Lucille Booth. Yeah. Not really that many of George. Yeah, no, not at all. Only remember the banana stand.
Starting point is 00:28:14 The money's in him. That's like his big moment. But there's so many like sipping gifts of like Lucille Booth with her eye and stuff like that. Don't ever do that again. Yeah. Yeah. Her performance is fucking incredible. I just have a feeling about Jason Bateman. I don't ever do that again yeah yeah her performance is fucking incredible i just have a feeling about jason bateman i don't know i've heard like there's just these little hints and like interviews from
Starting point is 00:28:31 michael cera when he was much younger being like yeah jason bateman really bullied me on set and then people are like ah so it was like good fun and he was like no he's really mean oh yeah and then but then like it seems seems like he plays it off like a joke. There's an interview with Vince Vaughn and Jason Bateman for a couple's retreat. It's like a presser. And Jason Bateman just seems like he's the biggest asshole in the world. Well, yeah, with MAGA Vince Vaughn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:59 And I think maybe the closest to real Jason Bateman we get, if anybody, I know people say Ozark maybe, but I actually haven't watched that. But if you've seen the movie The Gift, check that movie out because, yeah, that's I think the real Jason Bateman. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate.
Starting point is 00:29:35 My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. A podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session, 24 hours. BPM 110, 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio
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Starting point is 00:31:02 iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where
Starting point is 00:31:17 I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the Biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the Biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print. A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch.
Starting point is 00:31:43 As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. On segregation academies, when civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Hi, everyone. It's me, Katie Couric. If you follow me on social media, you know I love to cook or at least try, especially alongside some of my favorite chefs and foodies like Benny Blanco, Jake Cohen, Lighty Hoyt, Alison Roman, and of course, Ina Garten and Martha Stewart. So I started a free newsletter called Good Taste that comes out every Thursday, and it's serving up recipes that will make your mouth water. Think a candied bacon Bloody Mary,
Starting point is 00:32:39 tacos with cabbage slaw, curry cauliflower with almonds and mint, and cherry slab pie with vanilla ice cream to top it all off. I mean, yum. I'm getting hungry. But if you're not sold yet, we also have kitchen tips like a foolproof way to grill the perfect burger and must-have products like the best cast iron skillet to feel like a chef in your own kitchen. All you need to do is sign up at katiecouric.com slash goodtaste. That's K-A-T-I-E-C-O-U-R-I-C dot com slash goodtaste. I promise your taste buds will be happy you did. And this summit with North Korea may be back on. We don't know. Politico has a couple articles to that effect. Yeah, everybody's reporting it. Yeah, they're saying that they're going to Singapore anyways
Starting point is 00:33:30 and that those flirty little sentences in Trump's letter to Kim Jong-un might have had their desired effect. And, yeah, so we'll see. We're just kind of keeping our eye on it. It's just so clear that, like, it really is. It's like, well, you know what? You talk too spicy, so now I don't want to meet with you. And then they were like, I'm sorry, girl.
Starting point is 00:33:48 I didn't mean that. It's just that your homegirl, John Bolton, was saying some crazy shit. I can't just let that stand. It's so weird how one letter is directly to Kim Jong-un and be like, nah, fuck that. It's over. But if you want to talk, we can talk. And then they're like, we're sorry. Or it's deeply regrettable, but we're open to meet anytime, anyplace.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Right. So, you know, they're like we're sorry or it's deeply regrettable but we're open to meet anytime anyplace right so you know buckle up each other's language and who knows if that's a good thing buckle up indeed miles yep there's a story that we're calling spy gate i know you guys everyone's calling it spy everyone's calling it spy gate so what is spy so spy gate uh we talked a little bit about this maybe this week or maybe the week before where it was found out that the FBI has sent an informant to brush up against the Trump campaign because, you know, in a law enforcement apparatus would. They heard that maybe the Russians were trying to infiltrate a presidential campaign. So for the safety and integrity of our democracy, the FBI is like, why don't we send one of our guys just to see if they can see what's going on. For the safety and integrity of President Trump. And the campaign as well. Yes, of course.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And they went to go see, like, because a lot of their campaign officials are being seen interacting with Russians. And many people who are around the campaign were talking real loud about interacting with the Russians. So they're like, what the fuck? And we're getting reports from other intelligence agencies. So they went to check that out. what the fuck? And we're getting reports from other intelligence agencies. So they went to check that out.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Donald Trump has now, or for the last week, been calling this spy gate, where he is saying the story is they sent a mole to infiltrate the campaign, try and bring it down or some shit. It's like completely fucking bonkers. But again, when you're in this administration situation where you're trying to explain away all your bad doing by just being like, oh, actually law enforcement's all fucked up.
Starting point is 00:35:26 You know, they're actually pretty fucked up. It's not really what I've been doing. It's because it's a deep state, blah, blah, blah. And again, if we really want to play this theory out that the deep state was trying to bring Donald Trump down, why the fuck is he president? Right. If they really wanted to, they could have said they were investigating him from the jump. So, like, nothing really tracks about this whole fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:35:43 So, fast forward to yesterday where Donald Trump was basically telling the DOJ, like, you need to meet with some GOP hacks of mine like Devin Nunes and show them all the paperwork about this because you have to prove to us that there was some darker shit going on. Essentially, is the president asking for them to share confidential information about an investigation into him with his people, which is why it is extremely unprecedented and problematic. Just think about that. Just think about it. It's almost like, yeah, can I look at your documents real quick? We're investigating shit around you. Yeah, but I kind of need to see that. I don't trust it. That doesn't work like that, my guy.
Starting point is 00:36:26 So anyway, so they have this meeting, and it turns out that there obviously wasn't anything fucking happening because there was no spy gate to begin with. This is all about the dark shit that's happening around the campaign and the administration. So Adam Schiff comes out of this meeting basically saying something to the effect, not to the effect of, he comes out and said, nothing we heard today has changed our view that there is no evidence to support any allegation that the FBI or any intelligence agency placed a
Starting point is 00:36:54 spy in the Trump campaign or otherwise failed to follow appropriate procedures and protocols. So the whole thing was then being like, the system's corrupt. See, this is all unfair. Turns out they look at the documents and there's nothing there that even remotely confirms any of these lies because again this is part of the distraction plan to say anything but us and that's the mark of the guilty people because let's i mean if you run it from the top remember obama tapped his wires first right then there was all those the dodgy dossier then it was about all those fbi agents texting each other. And that's the corruption. Then there's the fucking memo. Remember the memo?
Starting point is 00:37:29 The memo was supposed to fucking show everything and show that Trump was innocent. And they take L after L. And it's funny that I mean, I feel like the media has to take a harder line and be like, OK, here's the new bullshit thing they're trying to do to distract from all of the smoke around this potential fire yeah uh so you know we'll see what the next one was but devin nunez you know there wasn't anything in there that would help him because he has not said a fucking thing since the meeting and you'd think he would be out there with his chest out on fox news being like oh well she clearly proves that uh the doj is collusion and Russia. Like, okay. Yeah. I think it also has to do with the fact, and maybe this is pure coincidence, but I think that Trump's base are people who their main motivating feeling is resentment and feeling like they've been screwed over. And so for him to
Starting point is 00:38:21 accurately sort of tap into how they're feeling, he has to constantly be complaining about being screwed over and being treated unfairly. Because it makes him the underdog. Right. And it's like, yeah, see, you can identify me with me, the scam artist, pseudo billionaire who's bleeding the country dry. Yeah. And both of their complaints happen to be bullshit. Yeah. And both of their complaints happen to be bullshit.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Yeah. Well, and then also, too, if you think about, like, Leslie Stahl from 60 Minutes, she was in some interview this week and was saying she was with Trump, like, right around, maybe right after the election or maybe in the last month or so. And she was like, why do you always, like, come at the press, like, and do this? He's like, well, I have to discredit you. So when you print something bad about me, no one's going to believe me because my line is always that you guys are full of shit. So he's doing the same tactic with law enforcement. was just dragging them through the mud so whenever they present actual evidence right he will hopefully you know kneecap the integrity perceived integrity of law enforcement in the country yeah nice try but hopefully i mean shit let's let's make sure it's sure it was a failed try attempt before.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Right. He scoots off in the wind. So before we get to our next story, I just want to remind people of a quote. We talked about this interview John Kelly did with NPR two weeks ago where NPR seemed to really be cutting all of the really awful shit out of the interview like really focusing on the things that humanized Kelly. And one of one of the weird quotes, I'll call it weird quotes from Kelly. NPR asked Kelly to comment on people who say it's, quote, cruel and heartless to take a mother away from her children. Oh, right. Because the new thing is that they are going to split up illegal immigrants. So illegal immigrant families.
Starting point is 00:40:05 And Kelly said, I wouldn't put it quite that way. The children will be taken care of, put into foster care or whatever. But the big point is they elected to come illegally to the United States, that this is a technique that no one hopes will be used extensively or for very long. hopes will be used extensively or for very long so yes these children who are being put into foster care or whatever are choosing the to come to the country well it's i feel like this is a long-term tactic that's been used against uh children of color that's a new uh abbreviation for people coc actually don't use that one college of the cany Canyons. But it's the same thing when young black kids are tried as adults. It's why people can see someone like Tamir Rice get killed and not bat an eye. You're making these kids seem more mature and adult than they are.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Yeah, you're taking away their innocence of being children by being like, oh, no, these are fucking MS-13 gang kids. Gang kids. Who probably had their parents bring them up here. Have you seen child African soldiers? Basically like that. That's what's coming over here. It's also, I think, just a very barbaric tactic to try and dissuade people from being like, well, when you come,
Starting point is 00:41:16 we will split you up, so don't even think about it type shit. Again, for him to say, yeah, a little bit of foster care or whatever, you're not talking about human children. Not surprisingly, yeah, they live in foster care or whatever, you're not talking about human children. Yeah. So not surprisingly, really, when you think that that's how they are thinking of these children who they are splitting from their parents, the federal government has, in the past couple of weeks, lost track of 1,475 migrant children.
Starting point is 00:41:41 They just don't know what happened to these kids. So rather than foster care, they're in whatever. Yeah, in the whatever, exactly. They don't know where they are. They don't know if they've been taken by family or taken by human smugglers or put into forced work camps. They just don't know. But that is something they have found. They've come across children who have been forced into labor after coming across the border. What, by families or whoever's care they were put into? Yeah. An AP investigation found in 2016 that more than two dozen unaccompanied children had been
Starting point is 00:42:19 sent to homes where they were sexually assaulted, starved, or forced to work for little or no pay. So that is something that happens, and they know that happens. This is a 2016 investigation. That's 2016. Right. Fast forward to 2018, and we've lost nearly 1,500 children. They're paying so little attention that they lost track of. Well, you know, ICE has been really killing it this week with this and murdering someone. Well, you know, ICE has been really killing it this week with this and murdering someone.
Starting point is 00:42:45 You know, it's really. And did you hear about that comedian that got investigated by the Department of Homeland Security? Well, he did a tweet on Cinco de Mayo where he said for every. It was pretty gnarly. He was like, for every ICE agent you kill, you get to wear one like racially insensitive thing for Cinco de Mayo. And it was like a joke. And he said the next day he got like a knock on his door. And it was like, we wanted to investigate this. And he was like, well, what about all the shit that the alt writers posting and calling for the deaths and you're like checking for me, which is a good point.
Starting point is 00:43:22 It's like, it's funny how like that's what will get you checking when like let's not forget that fucking what his name ted nugent called for the death of obama and like that dude is still walking around sitting pretty yeah i know the aclu is i think they're bringing some kind of lawsuit because they found out that their government is monitoring twitter and social media for shit like this. And they're like, uh, excuse me, what the fuck are y'all doing? Yeah. Uh, anyway, ice has asked for permission to begin routinely destroying 11 kinds of records with regard regarding how they treat people.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Uh, especially those related to sexual assaults, solitary confinement, and even deaths of people in its custody. They're trying to, you know, shrink that window of how long they keep those records. That's fucking, this is just criminal.
Starting point is 00:44:10 You know what I mean? And I don't know who the fuck has to, I don't know, do we have to just light up the phone lines on the Hill or something to get them to fucking do something? Because who has to answer this? Is it Kirsten Nielsen at DHS? Technically becomes health and human services problem because they split them up and then health and human services takes them. I mean, you don't want to accept that this country would treat children like this or be so lax in their treatment of children like this that this can happen. But at the same time, I believe it because we have such a stance with immigrants and anyone who is not an American or a white American, where it's just kind of like, okay, they're kind of people.
Starting point is 00:44:47 We can't even help Puerto Ricans who are American people and give them the dignity of running water and electricity. I mean, how do we expect them to care about immigrant children when they don't even want to budge when American children are shot down in school? This country just doesn't care about kids anymore. We went from kids are the future to kids need to just shut up and duck. Yeah. I've read a theory once that I think about all the time that the reason that American horror movies always have like creepy children in them is because that's like a thing that we are like subconsciously wrestling with.
Starting point is 00:45:20 The fact that we just treat our children like shit. Yeah. And so that's why we find children scary. Oh oh yeah like that little girl in the hills have eyes right exactly hey mister will you play with us oh shit yeah wait is this because i'm dehumanizing children yeah so in other words you if you find those children, there's something wrong with you. You need to look at them yourself. Well, they're freaky. They're meant to look freaky, Jack. All right. And finally, we have some gun news.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Yeah. Some more good news, I guess. Well, good news if you're the NRA because they are nutting their pants. They're drenching their bench, as Jack O'Brien once said, because two good guys with guns actually stopped a potential mass shooter. Now, this man walked into a restaurant in Oklahoma with a pistol, and he opened fire on some of the patrons.
Starting point is 00:46:12 He hit a mother and a daughter and injured another. But the only person whose life ended was the shooter himself. Now, Wayne LaPierre at the NRA, he must have given an extra blood offering to Satan or Joe Boo or whoever it is for this to happen. Because now that's all they're touting is, oh, so you see what happens? You got two good guys with a gun. They stopped the shooter. Now we don't need gun control. And all y'all are soy boys. So not to say that the acts of these two men isn't heroic at all. I mean, we have police who were even at Parkland who couldn't manage to get it together to try and protect somebody.
Starting point is 00:46:46 So you can't take that away from these people. But I think what is disingenuous is just to sort of have your confirmation bias gone wild with this and say like, oh, you see now this proves everything and everything else is negated. Because there's been study after study that puts rest to the myth of the good guy with the gun.
Starting point is 00:47:06 I'll say this one stat. Because the FBI does a lot of reports on these kinds of things. And on active shooter events between 2000 and 2013, only about 3% were stopped by a civilian with a gun. Unarmed civilians actually stopped more incidents, about 13%. And most of the incidents, more than 56%, ended on the shooter's initiative. That means whether they took their own life or simply just stopped or flipped the scene. Well, I have the scoreboard for you, Miles. Are you all ready for the scores, the shooter's score?
Starting point is 00:47:34 So the current scores for shootings in the U.S. is 101 mass shooters, one good guy with gun, and one good guy without gun. So it seems like the good guys with guns are tied with good guys. Well, there were two good guys with guns. But they're scores together. They were a team since this was one mass shooting. So the score is 101-1-1. And it seems like mass shootings are up by 100.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Yeah, exactly. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price.
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Starting point is 00:50:55 Do you ever wonder where your favorite foods come from? Like what's the history behind bacon-wrapped hot dogs? Hi, I'm Eva Longoria. Hi, I'm Maite Gomez-Rejon. Our podcast, Hungry for History, is back. Season two. Season two. Are we recording? Are we good? Oh, we push record, right?
Starting point is 00:51:12 Okay. And this season, we're taking an even bigger bite out of the most delicious food and its history. Saying that the most popular cocktail is the margarita, followed by the mojito from Cuba, and the piña colada from Puerto Rico. So all of these, we thank Latin culture. There's a mention of blood sausage in Homer's Odyssey
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Starting point is 00:52:00 I have ED. No, no, no, no. Oh, are we doing an ad? No, no, this isn't the ad about your ED. My bad. So Solo, a Star Wars story is coming out today. I don't have ED. Right, right, of course.
Starting point is 00:52:13 For the record. You were just joking. Everybody knows you're joking. And even if I did, you know, like, it's normal. So our writer, J.M. McNabb, put together a- I don't think I should be ashamed, honestly. Well, anyway, we're getting off track here, guys. Han Solo.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Sorry, that's my fault. So he put together a bunch of things that were sort of what George Lucas wanted to do with the character of Han Solo in early drafts of Star Wars and even in early drafts of the prequels. So in one of the early drafts of Star Wars, Han Solo was described as a huge green-skinned monster with no nose and large gills. Oh my God. This is George Lucas' first thought of- Yeah, this is his vision for Han Solo.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Han Solo. And his first line, you old star dog, took a war to get you out here. Oh, you old star dog? You old star dog. Wow. That says the giant green monster with no nose. How come we've never seen a dog in Star Wars? Right.
Starting point is 00:53:18 I don't know. Where did he develop this concept of a dog? Right. Okay, George Lucas. Yeah, but it's just funny that you know the thing that people always say is that han solo is like the character that you identify with and like want to be because luke's a little like whiny and like he's the and he would have just totally fucked that up by making him a fucking old cray no-nosed green skin monster
Starting point is 00:53:41 yeah and this is my homie han solo um i love you i know i i think that if you want to see george lucas's vision like pure and uncut look at the prequels but if you want to see like a movie that has george lucas's input and the input of a hundred other really talented people. Look at the original tridge because like the studio was still had enough control at that point. And they were like, Jesus,
Starting point is 00:54:16 this is going to be a disaster. And so they made him take notes. They made him work with all the other artists that were working on the movie and his wife, he didn't get to just do whatever the fuck he wanted to. Yeah, his wife was a big part of it. The guardrails, basically, that kept the thing on the fucking road. Yeah, so there were people who were like,
Starting point is 00:54:34 yo, Han Solo should not be Jar Jar Binks. Han Solo should be a fucking cool dude. He's like, I'll get him in later. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I'll get my green-skinned, no-nose guy. Right. Once they decided to make him human, his first
Starting point is 00:54:49 description of him, burly, bearded, but ruggedly handsome. So clearly he was describing what he thought of himself. Yeah. He's like with a totally tight neck-throat area, not like a gross double chin. It's like, whoa, that's a weird description. Are you talking about yourself, George?
Starting point is 00:55:05 Strong chin. He's not growing his beard because he doesn't have one. He has one. But weirdly, he was shacked up with a female boma who looked like a cross between a brown bear and a guinea pig. Okay. That's who he was. That was supposed to be the Chewbacca or there was also Chewbacca?
Starting point is 00:55:22 No, that's who he was sleeping with. Oh. He had a sexual relationship with a Chewbacca, or there was also Chewbacca? No, that's who he was sleeping with. Oh. He had a sexual relationship with a Chewbacca-like alien. Wow, okay, no kink shame. I think we discovered that George Lucas is a furry before furries were a thing. Exactly. I know. He's real into it.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Can you imagine the original script that no one's ever seen is just a weird alien kink film? Yeah, he's like, yeah, and then they yift. They yift all night. What's that? Oh, it's where Sligo goes in the re-girth. I'm like, what? Okay, George. He had some really weird ideas about this character.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Yeah, Lucas told one of the writers, Leonard Ripps, that Han Solo was secretly married to a Wookiee, but they couldn't actually say that because it would be controversial. Yo. Like, why even tell the guys? but they couldn't actually say that because it would be controversial. Yo. Like, why even tell the guys, like, you know, my idea was Solo is that he actually, he's with a Wookiee.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Right. We'll keep that on the low. Right. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so why do I need to know that? I just don't understand the motivation. Can I leave now? No. No.
Starting point is 00:56:19 You stay right here. Also, man, can you give me a ride? Yeah. And then in the prequels, when he actually could do whatever he wanted, he had a whole storyline written that they just didn't get to shooting because it was like this sprawling thing already. But they were going to meet child Han Solo, and he was going to be raised by Chewbacca.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Oh, wow. Which would mean that the original trilogy is all about Han Solo just hanging out with his dad,, dad, his adopted father. Which is kind of weird. That he mistreats or, like, kind of punks around. He's like, yeah, well, my stepdad is my subordinate now. Right. It just demonstrates, like, how George Lucas is totally out of touch with what questions the audience wanted answered, like, in the prequels.
Starting point is 00:57:01 He's like, all right, so how does he understand Chewie? He has to be raised by him. Yeah, so we'll go to Kashyyyk. Right. We'll go three Jedis deep. Right. And yeah, he will be raised by Chewie. How does the Force work scientifically?
Starting point is 00:57:15 What is it called? The chemical in your blood. No, no, no. Everybody needs to know that. No, this 10-year-old human boy was raised by bear monsters. Right, right. That's what they want. Apparently in the new movie, I don't know if we should, this isn't really a spoiler.
Starting point is 00:57:30 This is just, it'll spoil one of the worst things for you, I guess. Okay, so this is a very diet light spoiler, but if you're really trying to go into virgin ears and eyes. Skip 15 seconds. Skip to 15 now. Now, Han's surname, is just given to him by the Empire's customs guy because he's alone. That's your spoiler. Sounds kind of stupid,
Starting point is 00:57:52 but I heard the movie's solid. Despite all the hiccups, though, had me a little shook along the way when I was like, oh, yeah. Only the best movies have 900 directors and a bunch of reshoots. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Suicide Squad. Usually it's a bad sign when there's I was like, oh, yeah. Because only the best movies have 900 directors and a bunch of reshoots. Right, right. So, yeah. Suicide Squad. So, yeah. Usually it's a bad sign when there's like 40 different writers on a movie. But like you usually keep one director. When you've got multiple directors and writers, that's. Yeah, you're in the danger zone. Yeah, but apparently they pulled it off decently well.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I'm excited for it. I am too. Are you excited for it, Ify? Yeah, I have to watch it for Nerdificent. Well, you don't. I'm excited for it. I am too. Are you excited for it, Ify? Yeah, I have to watch it for Nerdificent. Well, you don't have to watch it for Nerdificent. That's the only reason you watch it? No, I've gotten two updates about having to watch it for Nerdificent. Anna has been keeping me in the loop.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Super producer Anna. Soup Purdue. Soup Purdue. So, yeah, I'm going to make sure I watch that tonight. Do you fuck with Han Solo as a character? I think Han is tight. I love Donald Glover. That's enough to get me in this scene. I want to see him get down with a droid.
Starting point is 00:58:51 I need him to get these points. You know he got points on the back end. Oh, yes. Well, he's going to have his own spinoff, too, right? Isn't that the next one? Oh, yeah. I can't wait to play his cousin or something like, yo, Lando! You're going to come down by the... You're going to come down here. You know I'm down by the space by you. So, yeah, Lando, you gonna come down by the you gonna come down here, you know I'm down by the space bayou.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Somehow it becomes real wildly problematic. You know I'm down by the space bayou. You know, I got, you know, I only mess with the white women, you know, space white women, you know. What happened? They're like, Louisiana exists in the Star Wars universe?
Starting point is 00:59:24 Why ain't coming down to Bayou? I don't know. I'm trying to buy me my own little princess Leia. She ain't around yet, but I feel like she gonna come. Don't burn that okra. It's just like Louisiana. It's just written on the bottom.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Exterior Bayou. Jerome Calrissian sits on the porch. Oh, yeah. You know what? I've been waiting for Lando to stop by. Yeah, it's like Lando's family reunion. That's the movie. Oh, you're too good, huh?
Starting point is 00:59:55 In that Cloud City? Okay. Lando's family reunion and Donald Glover will wear a dress and be like the matriarch of the family. Don't let me get my blaster out my purse. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, I wonder if they will ever have the guts to make a Star Wars movie that is like a different genre almost because it feels like all of them have kind of taken place and felt like they take place in the same universe.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Oh, yeah. taken place and felt like they take place in the same universe oh yeah um marvel cinematic universe had the balls to uh make the thor ragnarok which is uh almost a straight up comedy yeah but i mean they still pull off all the visuals yeah thor rag update by the way lots of people from nerdif still haven't seen it i tried searching it it's i have to wait until it comes out on Netflix. I think I'm going to just buy it on Vudu so that people can stop telling me. Maybe I'll gift it to you on iTunes. Ooh, if you do that. Thank you. Because as I was moving, I stumbled upon a $50 iTunes gift card that I didn't know I had.
Starting point is 01:00:54 So that's like free money. So what I gain is your gain, too. Oh, thank you. One thing, though, I will say, I remember initially when they were talking about Solo, they were like, this is more like a gangster flick. This is a gangster flick. This is a gangster flick. This is a gangster flick. It's a gangster flick that takes place in the Star Wars universe. Now, I stay
Starting point is 01:01:09 away from all reviews and any kind of information on Star Wars films, so I think that was the last thing they said about it. I could be totally off. That could have been five directors ago. Yeah, exactly. So now it could just be like a big, you know, it's a small world after all kind of movie. Yeah. I mean, Lord and Miller were originally the directors and those are the guys who made, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:28 Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs and, you know, the Lego movie. Gangster Flicks. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But so I was assuming, I was excited about that because, I mean, that seemed like a weird new direction for them to take with the universe. weird new direction for them to take with the universe. And then apparently they just, their eyes were bigger than their stomachs when it came to how their appetite for risk.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Well, at least Rogue One was dark. Right. Rogue One was dark. I don't know if genre wise it was really genre based, but tonally I was like, oh, okay. Let them know that lives were lost in these Star Wars. For real. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:04 You guys know what time it is. It's Friday. That means it is time for Bloid Watch. Bloid Watch. So not a whole lot going on this week. There's a lot of royal recapping going on. It must be a good week to write on these magazines because you can just be like, we'll just do recaps this week.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Right. We're not going to write anything. It'll be a special collector's edition. Star got a little bit messy and their their cover is 30 Most Hated TV Hosts. And on the cover, you have Kelly Ripa, phony backstabber, Megyn Kelly, at war with Savannah and Hoda, Bill Maher, bigot, and sex fiend. I mean, that's true.
Starting point is 01:02:41 But I mean, yeah, I'm totally fine with the Bill Maher burn. Just because you're a super head doesn't mean you're black. But once you get into the article, it really comes off as more like Trump's burn book. Oh, yeah. Let's see, Megyn Kelly, she had something to say about Donald Trump. Yeah, Hannity isn't there, but Rosie O'Donnell is. Rosie O'Donnell hasn't been a TV host for years. That's true. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:03:08 No, man. That's because they check with Trump on that shit. Then is Jerry Springer on there? Why is this going to be Barack Obama and whatever show he's hosting on Netflix? There's like Sally Yates, the AG. Wait, what? She's not even on a TV show.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Now it's becoming really transparent. Speaking of the Obama thing, they had Letterman on there. Letterman and Conors. Oh, see? Yeah. So it's just like, yeah, people hate Letterman. Again, we say this all the time, but David Pecker, the tabloid god, is Trump's homie. So I'm sure he had a little input.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Or at this point, I think they just know how to write him because they know, oh, wait, if you said anything hot about the Donald, then you will be listed. Yeah. Because I'm pretty sure you couldn't have an objective list about most hated TV hosts and not mention Kathie Lee. Yeah. And then the National Enquirer, the cover shouts, Hoda fired. Hoda, wait. Thank you. choir uh the cover shouts hoda fired uh the hoda way thank you uh the secret plot that will cost anchor her job revealed uh but she hasn't been fired so i wouldn't worry about that uh iffy as always it's been a pleasure having you where can people find you uh you know you can find me
Starting point is 01:04:21 on twitter instagram iffy wadiway i-f-y-n-w-A-D-I-W-E, Twitch at IfDs. You know, I've been real conflicted playing Conan Exiles because it's a real fun survival game. You can capture slaves, and I've only been capturing white slaves. That's my only rule is only white slaves in my camp. Yeah, whoa, interesting. Capturing slaves, what game is it? It's like a Civ type game? It's called like, it's kind of like, do you remember Rust?
Starting point is 01:04:49 Uh-uh. Oh, well, it's like a survival game. Yeah, it's like a survival game where you can build, you can find resources, and you can make a base, a home, carpentry, and technically you don't have to capture slaves. It just speeds up the process, so of course I'm going to do it. I like the lesson there. Now, you could do it all yourself, but if you force these people into violent servitude,
Starting point is 01:05:12 you could get that shit going a lot quicker. And they say we didn't build this country. But it takes place in the Conan universe. So that's why it's like... So is FedEx Pope in there, Masturbating Bear? No, no, no, no. Not that.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Preparation. Oh, Conan. Yeah, Conan. Oh, okay. My bad. But they call them thralls. I like that they were like, we're not going to call them slaves. I'm like, I get that, but still.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Because they're so enthralled with their situation. See, guys, they like it. They're happy. Speaking of who built this country, did y'all get a chance to talk about Dinesh D'Souza's Hamilton tweet no we don't even give that guy any air oh man I told him to sit himself down
Starting point is 01:05:53 you know good old pun there get the fuck out of here just iffy things I'll see y'all on twitter just iffy stuff Miles where can people find you find me on twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. And guys, on Monday, we will be answering some of the questions you submitted to us.
Starting point is 01:06:12 So stick around for that too on Monday. Yeah, just a little behind the scenes Just Miles and Jack episode where we answer some of your questions. Talk about us. Talk about us, our feelings. Take you behind the scenes. All right. You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:06:32 We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. We link off to the information that was in the episode today, the sources. And we also link off to the song that we ride out on. Miles, what are we going to ride out on this week? Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Let me think. I want to kick the weekend off, right? This is going to be a good weekend. So let's do a track this week for Friday. We'll do Tears, the 45 mix by the El Michaels Affair. Now, this is a guy who basically flips a lot of sampled music from Isaac Hayes or Wu-Tang songs and puts them together with bands. I've played tracks like this before, but this is, I believe, a Lee Fields track.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Yeah, after the laughter or tears. So this is Tears, 45 mix. You might recognize some of the sounds in there because they have this sampled and yeah take that into your weekend all right and we're gonna ride out on that we will be back on tuesday with another episode of the daily zeitgeist and a special episode for you guys on monday we will talk to you guys then have a good long weekend. Bye. Bye. Bye. comes tears After laughter comes tears is cheese I'm trying to hold back my tears
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