The Daily Zeitgeist - CYBERCZAR, U2 Songs Mean Stuff? 11.4.19

Episode Date: November 4, 2019

In episode 508, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Corporate star Adam Lustick to discuss a Portuguese McDonald's making an offensive sundae joke, the majority of women wanting to impeach Trump, Republicans support for impeachment of Trump slowly rising, more Rudy Giuliani nonsense, an Aunt Becky update, My Decade TV, Blizzcon 2019, and more!FOOTNOTES: McDonald’s Portugal apologizes for sundae promotion, poor grasp of history MAJORITY OF WOMEN AND COLLEGE-EDUCATED WHITES SUPPORT IMPEACHING AND REMOVING TRUMP: POLL REPUBLICAN SUPPORT FOR TRUMP'S IMPEACHMENT RISES TO 18 PERCENT, POLL SHOWS Rudy Had a Secret Meeting With Zelensky’s Rival, Too Rudy Giuliani needed Apple genius help to unlock his iPhone after being named Trump cybersecurity adviser Lori Loughlin To Fight New College Bribery Scheme Charges; Facing 50 Years In Prison, Trial Set For 2020 – Update Vintage TV emulator whisks us back to a time when everything we watched looked like garbage In his opening statement for #BlizzCon2019, Blizzard Entertainment president J. Allen Brack spoke to the company’s decision to suspend @blitzchunghs, saying "we have failed in our purpose." Protestors Rally Outside Blizzcon 2019 with ‘Winnie the Pooh’ Costumes WATCH: Smeyeul - Relaks Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, man. And in my mind, the seal version is the goat version. Oh, really? For sure. I mean, look, what is it? Peter Frampton did the first one? Yeah. I think so. I think that's right. Yeah. The seal version from the Space Jam soundtrack, it fucking goes. Yeah.

Because it's a little bit more like new school, new fusion-y jazz thing. The drummer's... Anyway, this isn't the drummer. Is the Space Jam soundtrack the best of that era when movie soundtracks were an event that had nothing to do with the movie? If you were a little boy

from the ages of 10 to 15 and you had the ability to buy your own CDs or whatever, you had that motherfucking soundtrack. And you liked basketball. It all went hand in hand. Our guest is nodding vigorously,

so we're going to bring him in. He is just chomping at the bat. The hilarious and talented Adam Lustick. Oh, please. Thank you for having me. Hit Em High. The song Hit Em High featured every rapper of the 90s.

Right. Is that what I'm saying? Who was that? Be Real. Busta was on that. Be Real. And maybe. No, not Ghostface.

That would make sense. Method Man. LL Cool J. Yes. Coolio. Busta Rhymes. Everyone. Coolio.

Every rapper. That was, especially at that time. I did not see Coolio coolio coming in 96 to have buster rhymes coolio lo cool be real a little bit of an outlier yeah but you know what yeah it's fine um can i just say you guys have beautiful singing voices yeah like legitimately as you i don't know if anyone's complimented i also just wanted to bring one other thing to the table right off the bat uh i just wanted to congratulate you both on being way ahead of the curve with the Daily Podcast. Oh, yeah, I know, right? That is now fully in the

gold rush. Exactly. You guys were sort of first responders there. I don't know. So, mazel tov. You know, we just do what we do. Keep our eyes on the prize. Exactly. Amen, man. Well, Adam, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple

of things we're talking about. We're going to check in know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to check in with Impeachin' This Creep. Yep. Girl, I'm talking about Impeachin' This Creep. See, DJ Daniel was slow on that because he just won shoes in a raffle. And you know what? I bless that. It's okay.

He needs to stay hungry. That's what I told you, Miles. Man wins one sneaker raffle. He's missing the drops. We're going gonna check him with rudy giuliani what a sweetheart what what a great uh cyber czar uh i think we just found out yes uh republicans trying to claim uh morrison's testimony as a win nice actually just being a really good indicator of how thirsty they are for a win. A dying of thirst. Trump wants to do a

fireside chat. Oh my god. Oh my god. We're gonna do an Aunt Becky update. We're gonna check in with MyDecadeTV, whatever that is. It's amazing. Okay. Just wait. Just you wait when I tell you about it. Great. And we're gonna get a report from BlizzCon.

All of that and plenty more. But first, Adam, we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Search history, okay. Well, I recently looked up, what do Tevas look like now? Tevas are like, sort of like dad sandals.

I recently became a dad, so I feel like I should thank you very, very much. Congrats, man. Oh, how to keep a baby alive, that's another thing I've been sort of frantically Googling recently. How much water do you need to put on your baby to stay alive? To stay alive. Yes. Water baby?

Water baby? Question mark? Morning or night? How many times water baby per day, please? Daylight savings. Daylight savings. Daylight savings. But Tevas, I think I've been trying to transition to a dad sandal.

So I just want to sort of keep updated on the Tevas and on the Birkenstocks and just sort of gauge where the dad sandal market is at now in 2019. Well, Birkenstocks are like hot. Those are hot. Yeah, Tevas are not. Are still lame. If you're telling people down on Larchmont, you're a liberal

ass dad, you better have some Birkenstocks on. I'm going to tell you that shit right now. They'll be like, alright, get out of here, MAGA guy with your Havianas or some shit. Your Reef flip-flops. Wait, but don't Tevas still look the same, right? Because that wave came back. Oh, yeah.

Did the Teva wave come back? Oh, yeah, because I remember last year, Anna was like, oh, I want these Tevas. And I was like, we used to clown on people with Tevas. Exactly. But that was 20 20 years ago yeah maybe tivas are cool what's lame is cool again yeah i mean because the ankle strap sandal became like a very fashionable thing for a while that's so funny so maybe people were just like

well that all started with tea if we can all as a culture just learn to lean in and fully embrace velcro i would be grateful. Velcro all over the body. And I just really wanted to explain that. They came out with a whole new platform set, which became very cool

with the young millennial girls who were trying to vibe and look cute. Cool. Be like old trendy, but at the same time have a little platform heel to your way.

And then they came in cute colors. So we were like, honey, they back. They back. Old Trendy is my nickname. Me and my boy Old Trendy. I feel really validated by that Anna so I

it sounds like I am accidentally on trend. It's more of a Zad sandal now. Great. Okay cool. And it's I feel like chunky old dad shoes like dad sneakers are like the wave with young kids. Oh yeah.. And it's, I feel like chunky old dad shoes, like dad sneakers are like the wave with young kids. Oh, yeah. Well, because it's just everything's in like 20-year cycles.

I'm going to have to go to my mom's house and bust out my old academic jeans that had a bunch of leather patches on them. And I'll be like, yeah, I'm in the building. Travis Scott, man. He's always rocking the leather patch. Exactly. Speaking of 20 years,

I believe Space Jam is right on cue coming back, for example, 20 years later. So, yeah is right on cue coming back, for example, 20 years later. So, yeah, I think you're right. Get ready for my, these baggy-ass basketball shorts to come back.

Exactly. What is something you think is underrated? Oh, underrated. Okay. I don't know if this is underrated. Again, new dad,

been a little bit out of the cultural zeitgeist for a while, but I've been crushing pretty hard on the Netflix show Rhythm and Flow, which is like the hip-hop American Idol. I don't know if that's's i don't know how that's rated good

okay good so maybe that is exactly perfect it's highly rated and still underrated so yeah exactly i agree underappreciated underappreciated yeah cardi b to me is a bit of a modern miracle i just don't understand how she has somehow struck the perfect balance which i just have never seen in any other public figure of she like performs herself and like performs her public persona in a way that still feels authentic. I don't know how she does it. She's like struck the balance. She's like clearly raised by and with reality television, but it doesn't seem contrived or forced and she's still charming every moment.

Yeah. How does she do it? That's, I'm pretty impressed. My wife like had managed to miss Cardi B up to the point of watching Rhythm and Flow and just every like five minutes she would be like

where is she from where is she how does she exist she she's a yeah exactly but that's really fun

and T.I. I like I'm a big hip hop fan but like sort of under familiar with the oeuvre of T.I. but just a, I mean, I will walk in.

What a presence. I will do what he says. He just has this presence where he just, to me, he feels like an old 18th century horse trader or something. He barely moves. He's very genteel and correct all the time. And I just really respond to his energy. It's a good mix of newcomers, old heads, and different styles of rappers,

judges. And I think just in general, there's been, I think Fizza when she was on, we were talking about this show too, about how it's because precisely they let them say whatever they want or do whatever they want and not sort of sanitize it through a broadcast network sort of filter.

It is able to maintain a little bit of authenticity, like all the rappers themselves can't did you watch it all the way through i've watched it all the way through have you watched all the way through i'm just saying towards the end towards the end like you you really start seeing some people who are like these people have like it's awesome like i'll buy i'll see them live amen and there's a project runway element to it too where it's like this is rapping is hard it's it's and it requires many different skills to be like a hip-hop artist and like i just think it's a really cool reality show and to your point miles it's

like a hard r reality competition show right the unfiltered hard r wait hold on okay reality reality yeah there's like there's one point where they get into an argument behind the scenes like before the i think it's before the battle reps yeah and but it like it's doesn't really make sense in terms of being an argument and they don't like push it any further yeah like any other reality show right where they would like make an entire episode exactly it's just like the confusion of oh i thought he said something about me they yell at each other for a little bit but then it's over. It's not like yeah, there's something different about the rhythm

of it and the flow of it. I think it's more of a documentary than I guess a reality show in a certain sense where they're producing that drama. It's more like these people are stressed out because the stakes are really high for them too. This is difficult. TI has some great

on the verge of falling asleep but yet being incredibly commanding energy. Yes, exactly. And I will, like those few pleasures that I drive up more than watching people react positively to hip hop, like they're sort of this is not like nice

face, like watching TI and Cardi and Chance really enjoy it like something smells bad. Yeah. Anyway, so maybe that's not underrated at all. Forgive me, but I don't think it was. It was until this episode. And then you just made it properly over the edge. What is something you think is overrated?

Oh, boy. Okay. I know this is going to be a little controversial and I'm going to come off like a crank of the week, and I don't mean to, especially on Today of All Days. But I'm going to say like Halloween costumes, like Halloween celebration, like all the Halloween hoopla. I'm a bit of a crank when it comes to holidays, and I wasn't really raised in a holiday-forward household. So I'm a little reluctant to fully throw myself into holidays. And even still, I just feel like people could stand to dial it back a little bit on Halloween. I know that's not very popular and I don't want to harsh anyone's mellow and yuck anyone's yum.

But I'm just saying, like, it doesn't need to be such an ordeal. Like, I see people like Heidi Klumper 10 hours in her costume. And I'm like, that is seems excessive to me. That just seems excessive. And again, maybe this is a new parent talking about it. It's like, who has the time? Right. Who could have? You look at it like that, you're like, no.

What's the time? 10 hours, Heidi. Yeah. So anyway, I know that- You have a time dilation machine? Exactly. So I had the experience last Thursday of my three-year-old having his first trick-or-treating experience.

Okay. Oh, where he's like a walking, talking, trick-or-treating machine. Just like getting candy, eating the candy live, like collapsing against a tree at one point. Just to get it in. Like, I need this shit dead. My whole neighborhood turns into like diabetes hamsterdam. Like, it's just wild.

Diabetes hamsterdam. Hamsterdam from the wild. Just like an eight block radius where everyone is high on sugar like when I got out the next morning there was like

rappers like just shit everywhere just thrown everywhere but I I personally love it like for that specific age group

it's so fun like I agree though like the the amount I think celebrity costumes have gotten to a point where it's just like it's yeah it's just histrionics yeah exactly yes it's just over the top yes

and also there's just like their free time in our face truly though maybe that's the maybe that's the thing that's probably the right and you know it's a slightly more experienced father it's just like that the free time I guess is really what I'm what i'm well yeah i'm rapidly envious of it yeah you're like i have so much disposable income right i can have 900 kids yeah and have like have a body cast made of mold so i can have these custom prosthetics and become a xenomorph yes exactly yeah it's like kudos to you people were talking shit to me because my costume was not on theme with my kids' costume. Give me a break. I have- What do you mean, people?

Who? Just my friends from college. I thought the kids were coming up to you on the street like, hey, mister. You're off-brand. The fuck is this? I have one store-bought Batman costume I wear every year for a half hour. And then I'm like, ah, this is uncomfortable. I'm not going to do it anymore.

Great. But yeah, there were some adults who had really detailed and well thought out group costumes with their kids that I was a little bit jealous of. I bet. But again, I like to just think- Play it cool. Yeah. Who has the fucking time?

Who has the time? Everyone's got their holiday, though. Yeah, that's true. Some people I realize, like, you know, Her Majesty, my partner, she loves Halloween. Does she? I don't really care. Yeah. Either way. I'm like, let me just eat this Laffy Taffy, some nerds, and remember, like, you know, her majesty, my partner, she loves Halloween. I don't really care either way. I'm like, let me just eat this Laffy Taffy, some nerds and remember like when my teeth were rotten.

Right. Like that's about it. Yeah. But I realized like for some people, yeah, they truly like, it's actually the best holiday. They lose it. And when I hear that, I'm like, why? No. Best holidays for me have a fuck ton of food.

Yeah, exactly. That's mine. Not just sugar food. I do have like, there is a shouting for the aspect too. Like my brother works in an office and he said, one guy and one guy only came in in costume and it's like full Captain Hook. And that tickles me. And I remember he said like yesterday, like Katie Porter was the only congresswoman who

came in. Like everyone was just like dressed in suits and whatever. And she's just like full cat woman. And it's like, well, that's a joy. That's a joy to see like the one fish out of water there. So that's nice. But anyway, I didn't dress up. I'm sure, too, like when so many Republicans on the Hill are like just sweating all the time.

You have a Democrat be like, I'm dressing up as Batwoman. Fuck y'all. I also have time for fun. I can experience pleasure as well. Right. Yeah. Well, you know, the candy, though. The candy, though.

That's the good part. The candy. Well, I'm sure once your child becomes, you know, a walk and talk and trick or treating machine. Trick or treating machine. Yeah, exactly. I'll have a different point. Yeah, you suddenly have like a wild costume on. Come on.

We're going as a watchman. Yeah, if you've ever wondered what your three-year-old would be like on cocaine, this will be your chance to experience that. And do you now have to like parse out the remainder of their candy? Yeah. Or do you just eat it yourself, Jack? I'll probably eat it myself. I would hope so. Oh, yeah. It's already gone. It's already gone.

I used to hide my candy when I got home because I knew my parents were going to go through my shit. Yes. And then I'm like, fine, take half of this. I'm like, half this shit was already in my bed. Good luck. Yeah, you're taking half of half. Yeah. They're like, I'm sleeping with these Jolly Ranchers in my bed. Good luck. Yeah, you're taking half of half. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like, I'm sleeping with these Jolly Ranchers in my mouth.

Exactly. And racking up a dental bill you've never seen. Yeah. By the way, speaking of people showing up as the only person in costume, I would be remiss if I didn't mention my favorite tweet of all time from KD Dippold. Throwback Thursday to Halloween when I dressed as the Babadook at my friend's house. Had more of a grown-ups drinking wine vibe. And there's just a picture.

That photo of her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, yes. Stop it. That's what I'm talking about. Because it's such a detailed, like, flattering costume. Exactly. I fucking love that so much hilarious respect

anybody who goes in like a wine connoisseur babadook sommelier babadook so funny uh what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false whoa okay okay i'm getting me in the story saying the new fatherhood lane here that uh people think that like you could i'll just make up sleep i'll make it up later like that is actually not how it works no you're like okay like yes i was up for all night for three nights in a row but if i can just like get like a good 10 hours and then 11 the next night it'll all even out that is just that is a biorhythmic myth i feel like that there

is such an idea of like making up sleep i have a whole theory about this that so you know how like the ideal marketing target is 18 to 34 yes 35 is the average age at which people have children yeah and i think it's because like your brain just stops you you're operating at like 60 efficiency from that point forward i'm talking about tivas right it's like i don't know what's going on like stop yeah just stops yeah and you're also not making decisions for yourself yeah yes but i think at the beginning of the infancy i was like okay like yeah this is super hard and i'm delirious and i feel cracked out for sure but like i'll make it up what What am I kidding? What am I kidding?

When? When and how? And is that how brains work? I don't think it is how brains work. No, it turns out it's not. That you can make up sleep. Yeah, I don't think that's real. Yeah, unless you completely shift

to like those other alternate patterns of sleep people use or like they micro sleep and shit. Come on, I would love to be able to do that. I mean, that's a, I can't imagine how disruptive that would be to try and even like get on one of those cycles. Yeah. That's a young man's game, by the way.

That's a young man's game. Yeah. Micro sleeping is a young man's game. Yeah. Right, right, right. Good luck to you, sir. Like the older you get, the less you sleep, but the more tired you are, I've noticed. Like you need just as much sleep, but you can't sleep as well.

Yeah. So you're just like waking up and cranking it up. I'm at that point where I'm realizing I need less sleep. Yeah. But I still stay in bed. Heck yeah, man. Because you know what? The Jolly Ranchers.

That's where the Jolly Ranchers are. Yeah, yeah. Because that's where the Jolly Ranchers are. They're still there. Miles is sleeping on a bed of the Jolly Ranchers. 13-year-old Jolly Ranchers. Fierce to my molars. All right.

Let's check in with McDonald's in Portugal. Latest marketing. Okay. Brilliancy. Yeah. They are. Lightning struck. They have a new Sunday promotion they were doing in parts of Portugal.

Okay. And what I will say, first I will read you, they had to apologize for this promotion because it was two for one Sundays. It was like a spooky theme. Okay. And it said, this is the apology. And I'll tell you i'll tell you why right let's see if adam can guess it when promoting when promoting its holiday sunday ice cream mcdonald's portugal developed a local market activation for a small number of its restaurants in portugal the campaign was

intended as a celebration of halloween not as an insensitive reference to any historical event or to upset or insult anyone in any way. Why? We sincerely apologize for any offense or distress this may have caused. Oh God, why, Miles? Why?

Spooky. What was it for? The promotion for what? A Sunday. Two for one Sundays. Two for one Sundays. What was it? Some reference to like

swing both ways. Is it like a bisexuality thing or something? No, no. What is it? No, it's historical. Oh God, what is it some reference to like swing both ways is it like a bisexuality thing or something no it's historical oh god what is it Sunday Sunday Bloody Sunday no no it was Sunday Bloody Sunday

I think they weren't quite aware of the Bogside Massacre where 14 unarmed Catholic protesters were shot and killed by British soldiers but yeah they were like yeah sorry the Bogside Massacre where 14 unarmed Catholic protesters were shot and killed by British soldiers. But yeah, they were like, yeah, sorry.

Sometimes it's just a song to other people and they don't realize what's actually going on or know what the lyrics mean. But literally on the promotion were the words Sunday, bloody Sunday? Yeah.

It's like with like red goo on the like blood. See, here's my thing. I wouldn't even get the word blood out of anywhere, anywhere. Like that doesn't need to be in any food promotion anywhere.

I get that it's like red, cherry, strawberry, like spooky, but you don't need to say blood. You know what I mean? Like the word blood should be in your food. It is like Anglophile English. Like, you know, the fact that bloody is like a fun word for English people to say. Yeah. Probably. To me, very.

Yeah. Sunday, very Sunday. Exactly. Bloody, bloody. people to say yeah and so to me very yeah sunday very sunday exactly i do wonder yeah how much of it was just they're like halloween and it's two sundays for one yeah it's too perfect not not to do it we can't not get fucking and then like maybe we won't see anyone who knows about the troubles who comes in the stores and would be offended. Yes, exactly. This is Portugal. We're not anywhere near Dublin. They won't know.

They're not going to matter. It's easy. And if they do, they love Bono. Whoopsie daisy McDonald's. Yeah, you see stuff like this all the time, though. Yeah. Sometimes, especially when you like English or English just looks better for marketing stuff. That's why there's so many weird looking Asian t-shirtsshirts that just have, like, fuck my neck on a shirt.

And you're like, what the fuck? Why is a five-year-old wearing that shit? Fuck my neck. Something's been lost in translation here. Something's been lost. Yeah. All right. We're going to take a quick break.

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And how people are feeling about this whole impeachment inquiry Yeah Those vocals Thank you Is that you, Miles? No No That's Seal

That's Seal. That's Seal. We've paid a very professional singer who works in podcasting. Yeah, there's a lot of movement going on, I think, with polls right now. Yeah. Right now, it seems like there's growing support among women and college-educated white people are are now they're getting a little more into uh impeachment now we're hitting majority numbers so uh apparently there is a there is a gender gap though between men and women just in general about impeachment 56 percent of women

uh back impeaching trump and removing him and then it's 42 percent of men come on general well i mean this is like that that all tracks yeah yeah there, I would say that maybe 42% of men get it or like at least understand what the stakes are for women and reproductive rights and things like that at the moment. And then also when it comes to like people with college degrees, it says, you know, half of college educated whites backed getting rid of the president. But when you look at the women in this subset, 59% did. And then 39% of men did 59 39 yeah 39 of college educated white men wow man wow that that is a little disheartening i think yeah it's a big gap i mean i've i've that's huge it kind of seems like 20 20 more wow that's a little crazy i mean there's uh an analysis of like how in america college is sort of like training for class shit like how to how to act like a gentry class person interesting i can i can kind of see how like i think that tends to be a big gap between trump supporters like

college educated versus not because it is like kind of imprinting the values upon you it also just makes me think like maybe college educated as like a like you're saying jack as like a sort of proxy it maybe that's not an accurate sort of shorthand for anything anymore maybe like the relevance of like college educated doesn't mean what it we think it means or something when you look at white adults without college degrees less than 25 percent of men back impeachment and 41 percent of women back impeachment i know it's so funny it's just like it's just the one of the myriad things i i keep thinking about this impeachment it's just like i mean maxine waters was calling for this day one and just like we're just all

catching up to her like many of the women who are on the front lines of this, right away. And it just does feel like this slow, inevitable moving boulder towards what we all sort of saw as plain as day from even before he was inaugurated and right from the beginning. And it's just this slow, inevitable, painfully obvious crawl towards his, hopefully his impeachment, maybe his imprisonment, some sort of accountability, hopefully. And it's just sad and embarrassing that like these like dumb white men are lagging behind and just like don't are with it. And also to like,

it depends on sort of what your worldview is. If you're willing to accept like what Trump is like a manifestation of is good or bad. But then also I think for a lot of people wanted to just completely disengage from everything. I don't blame them. So now this is being like, hi, hi, hi. I know you've been like not giving a fuck from your comfort of whatever you're living, but can you also begin to look at what's going on here?

Yes. And what do we subscribe this to? Do you think it's like the Ukraine thing is really like that? I know that's like the new catalyst for all of this. But like, do I mean, just in your guys personal opinion, do you think that that is what is accounting for this like spike in sort of the popular opinion about impeachment? Or do you think it's just more of a general fatigue and the Ukraine thing just feels like get another layer on the cake and it's just like this cake is becoming inevitable or like?

I think it's pretty clear like they were already asking the impeachment question and polls what like during the muller thing right and it really did like switch uh like support grew yes and uh opposition uh shot down like right after the right after they released that perfect transcript perfect uh slash memo the timing of him making that call literally the day after the muller thing by the way it's just like it's just so yeah transparent he was waiting to exhale that was his waiting to exhale exactly miles yeah and i think there's something about people that get that you know he's trying to know, subvert the election. Like, yeah, it's that that is kind of like democracy is still important to Americans. Well, in this one, too, there's not even a good like messaging strategy on the right that even their base could be like, that makes sense.

None. Right. But this is just sort of like when you see a bunch of politicians being asked, is it wrong for the president to lean on foreign leaders to interfere in our elections? They just don't answer. They just. Yeah. Head, butt, camera.

Yeah, Don Young just bowed into someone's GoPro and was like, there you go. There you go. Like, what? What? Yeah. But it was just funny because when you see something like that, the simplest question, it's not like there's no nuance to it. It's like, where are your values right now yeah where exactly are there and they can't be like i can't answer that because see if i do yeah and i say the thing that most people think is reasonable which is

not inviting foreign interference then that puts me in this other yes exactly can i just headbutt your camera i'm gonna headbutt and i'm gonna go to the bathroom yeah yes i have a bit of an unpopular opinion which is that i just formulated in my brain right now, which is I'm almost impressed. I get that Trump, just given how much heat is on him right now and given how – what like the inevitable trouble that he's in, that he knows he's in, and just like a life of criminal activity catching up to him and like about like on the cusp of being in full public view over like weeks of testimony, like not just on Ukraine, but about his corrupt organization and 60 years of corrupt living, he's actually been playing it pretty cool. I get that he freaks out on Twitter every day, but when I see him giving these in front of helicopter interviews and going to weird iron workers fundraisers or whatever,

I'm shocked that he's not more panicky, that he's not actually more lashing out. That he hasn't, like, it just isn't going on, like, cursing tirades or forgetting sentences. Or, like, it's not, like, kicking up his dementia. That he's, like, he's pretty, all things considered, I'm shocked at how composed he is. Maybe that's a life on TV. Like, a life of being a crook. No, it's a life of never having to face consequences.

I guess so. So, you're like, well, I've never had to face them, so what's this going to be? Yeah, right. Like, sure, it'll get hot or whatever, but he has a pattern of like, people complain or they say, I break the law and then I pay this guy to go to a court and do some shit and then I can keep fucking eating cheeseburgers. Maybe it is true denial. He probably, in his addled, privileged brain,

just doesn't believe he'll be in trouble and I shudder to think that he might be right. If you've never seen rain, why would you believe it's real? And even if you saw a bunch of clouds,

you'd be like, I've seen this shit before. You know what happens? Doesn't rain and I keep it moving. Good point, Miles. Exactly. So for you,

it's like, why should I? I'm like, the pattern I've experienced is fucking, there's no rain. Just tweet through it. You just tweet through it.

I don't think he's, we talked on a recent episode about how narcissism is the best thing, the best like personality disorder you can have because you are incapable of feeling guilt. Yeah, you just don't. And like shame. And so like these things that would make, you know, even like Richard Nixon, like part of what kind of wore down about him and like what led to his sanity dissolving was just like the weight of all the lies like building up and he just felt guilty and he was eventually just getting drunk every night in the

white house and just like being scared and yeah trump just does not have that problem because he does not drink yeah he doesn't he doesn't all. He does not drink or feel guilt. Yeah. It's amazing. Someone said, I think it was Adam Schiff maybe that was like, if Nixon had a Fox News-like apparatus, he probably wouldn't have left office. Right. Yeah.

Because there's enough to spin an alternate take on all this that for people who have already, you know, they're depending on that sort of diet, media diet. Yeah. They get their little scraps. It's surreal. One thing I'm keeping an eye on is the 538 impeachment opinion tracker. And it's actually going, like support is going down slightly and opposition's going up slightly.

Why do you think? I think it has to do with the fact that so much of our news content and just information about the world is generated by like algorithmic sorting mechanisms. And so like, it's like a new news story is going to hit and like, you're going to get all this new news about the new thing. But once you've accepted that fact and there's not a new thing happening, like the news just kind of filters away and you just like slowly lose interest.

Well, I think it's also kind of like narrative momentum yeah yeah you had the call yeah that was hot yeah and then you had some people who came in and backed it up hot you had some more people who came in backed it up hot then it's like the same people saying the same thing over backing up the original thing like okay but like i know can you give me something new? Isn't that crazy? In this media diet, we need a new smoking gun every eight hours.

Right. Or we check out. That's right. A brand new smoking gun that's even hotter than the last smoking gun. Yeah, exactly. And I think, but that's why now, I think once it moves into the public phase, now they can restart the thing. That's what we're assuming because that's what happened

with nixon but like once things like once the word was out about nixon like public opinion about him just stayed low yeah whereas with trump and with our modern world like where everything is just based on like the new thing i just worry that like people will still be bored by like hearing people say the same shit over and over i think that's 100 of possibility i just think at the very least though it will be very different uh you know that for people to actually see like not like partisan hacks go up there and be like this is what he did his career i think i'm hearing that and even hearing like republicans ask their questions and getting answers they might not want to hear back because we're seeing that they're really struggling with

all of this. Like they don't even know how to take news and process it because it's everything has been so damning. So in a public situation when you will clearly see like people asking questions from the Democrat side that are like trying to get to the truth and then whatever the Republicans attempt to do. Yes, it'll be. I mean, again, I think it's a little too early to think that anything's going to really change or that impeachment is going to solve all of this. Yes. But I think in terms of, for me personally, I feel like a lot of it too is that people need another smoking gun.

And I think public hearings will be a little bit of a smoke show. I think so. It'll be, as Trump would want, it will be the little bit of a smoke show. I think so. It'll be as Trump would want. It will be the television event of the year. Just nonstop crime parade. Yeah. Hopefully. I mean, like, I know we're going to get to the fireside chat pitch in a minute.

But do we think there is a world fingers crossed that, like, Trump himself takes the stand and, like, has to sort of, like, be questioned by Congress? Is that? Oh, beautiful. Isn't that what happens with the Senate?, isn't that beautiful? Oh, beautiful. Theoretically, like doesn't the president have to show up and be there as they like, I believe so. And I think it,

you never know. He might want to be like, I need to get him. See, and this let's just, let's just get to that part. Right. So he's, he's really trying to get in front of this whole impeachment thing because

again, right. He's operating in this world where any, he's never faced consequences for anything he does. So why not get out there? Double down, baby. Be honest about it. He did something similar last year. I forget what it was in relation to him.

We're like, he literally just admitted to this, like, fucked up shit. But, like, he. Because it was like, what was the problem? Yeah. Yeah, it was the Michael Che thing. The thing. It wasn't Michael Che. It was the problem? Yeah. Yeah, it was the Michael Che thing. The thing, it wasn't Michael Che. It was Lester Holt.

But when he was like, yeah, and so I fired him because I was thinking about Russia. Yeah, there was another thing, though, too. And they were like, wait, so that's it. Anyway, he does this shit all the time. And again, because it comes so frequently, we sort of lose track of all this shit. It's overwhelming. But it won't be satisfying. We won't get the moment where he's defeated in court and like Jack Nicholson and a few good men. It's going to,

like think about Saddam Hussein up until the very end. That dude was defiant. He was like, you know, believed he was being set up. He committed genocide. Yeah. And like he was still like up to the last minute just being like,

yo, you guys are full of shit yeah like thought like fully existing in a bubble where he was the only person who was still right in the world and about the tv thing i also do get the sense that donald trump just given that he television is the only currency he know like it's the only thing he knows right that it like that or the only thing he believes has impact or is like a a sort of yeah like a transmittable currency it's just like he like yeah i'm sure he can't wait like you see him with these rallies that's the only time he's comfortable is in front of a crowd and that's why i signed it was so great seeing him go to the world series game and get his ass boot obviously just like having his illusion shattered but just like yeah like he only ever wants to be on TV.

And I'm sure, to your point, Miles, his delusion leads him to the fact that like, just get me on camera. I can do it. I can sway them. I'll win. They need to hear from me. Yeah, exactly.

Stay from my mouth, from the goat mouth. From the goat mouth. When he was being interviewed by the Washington Examiner and they wrote here, quote, this is what he said to them. This is over a phone call. That is a good call. Trump sitting behind the Resolute desk said in an interview, at some point, I'm going

to sit down perhaps as a fireside chat on live television, and I will read the transcript of the call because people have to hear it. When you read it, it's a straight call. Straight. Straight call. It's a straight call. Straight down the middle, baby. You're going to love it.

You'll love it. You're going to love it. You'll love it. You're going to love it. I actually think that the like that the Republican strategy to your point, Miles, like no strategy. All these crimes are indefensible. The crimes are keep piling up. But I do think that like, I don't know. I wonder what you think. I wonder if it benefits them to try to narrow the scope of this impeachment hearing and trial, et cetera, just to this one phone call, which is not perfect, is criminal, obviously, duh.

However, and whereas the Democrats might just want to broaden out, which I think they are going to do, broaden out to just like a general abuse of power and to try and loop in all of the crimes, the emoluments and the Trump Hotel and this and that. I actually think it works to the Republicans' benefit if they keep it really narrow

and they frame the impeachment thing about it just being about this one. No, it is. It is one time. It's most likely going to be. I'm most people think the emoluments thing isn't going to work. So they know this is the one they can argue so many things about the emoluments thing. But this has so much. You have so many material witnesses.

You have so much damning evidence. That's true that you really like. They're like, let's just get fucking narrow because like they can dance around all this other shit as much as they want to. That's the part that enrages me so much. Like just the, the, the bald face card, the fact that the emoluments and just like his hotels,

all the diplomats from foreign leaders taking to hotels, Mike Pence, taking a helicopter out of the way to refuel at the Trump gas station in Ireland or whatever, like that happening constantly, constantly, constantly. And just knowing in my cynical black American heart, knowing that that will go unpunished

just chaps my ass, man. It's also funny that this is this particular instance or activity in his presidency is the more like this we should impeach like, right. Or this is it. I mean, again, because unfortunately, you have to have the will of the people behind it, too, for it to not completely bite you in the ass in the elections that they're like, fuck.

I mean, I wish we could appeal to people's hearts because children are being separated at the border and they're doing all this other shit that's completely fucked up. And maybe we can argue like, this is not the kind of person that we need leading the country. Unfortunately, there's not enough sense for whatever reason,

people weren't willing to, you know, find other reasons or other of the myriad of bullshit that he's pulled yeah i think that like the things that underlie this scandal are things that his supporters have always secretly feared yeah this is fun but like the we we don't want to be in a position where this guy's making life and death decisions for us. Right. So like on, on, it involves national security.

Yeah. Uh, it involves the actual like election and just the possibility of, uh, continuing to have a democracy. So it's like very important things that seem like, you know, going back to the 2016 election when he started talking shit about

gold star parents yeah his remember that thing the only thing that actually hit his approval everything else was like you know the if he would say something racist or you know the access hollywood tape like those things didn't really hurt him that much a good point it's the stuff where it's him proving that he's completely not up to the job of being the commander in chief of a military. Right. And him cheating at democracy. And I think this is. Things that people actually care about.

This is a point that I think has been made before. But also there's something about the Ukraine phone call that is like very like there's an old school scandalous to it. Whereas like Russian meddling in the election. Facebook. It's a little ephemeral. You can't really wrap your arms around it. Exactly. It's hard to define.alous to it. Whereas like Russian medley in the election, Facebook, it's a little ephemeral. You can't really wrap your arms around it exactly. It's hard to define, hard to quantify. But like, this is like a landline telephone

and a cover up and they crossed out the words with a real pen. And it's just like, yeah, that's something we know. That's like from the seventies. And like hide the transcript in the secret server now. Like a secret safe. Yeah. Like it feels very 20th century.

And then you have the other added dimension of this goofball Rudy Giuliani going around and doing the dumbest shit. So first, this story came out recently in the Daily Beast that was saying that he met up with Zelensky's rival at the end of 2018. He didn't know who was going to win. Who is, yeah, the former PM. He's covering his bases. Oh, God.

Yulia Timoshenko, who in the White House are like, she might be the future president. So it's odd. Rudy's going to meet with her. It says several sources said that among the topics discussed between the two were U.S. military aid and future U.S.-Ukraine relations. And a source familiar with the arrangement told the Daily Beast that the meeting was brief, came at Giuliani's request, And that the attorney was quote trolling for business trolling, maybe trolling either way. So this is also comes around like a thing where Rudy's really been active over there,

but may have been a thing that they've been mulling for a while because that sure, because I think also too, at the same time, we didn't know what was going on with the Mueller investigation, right? That they probably said, this is going to help with whatever they find out in the Mueller investigation. We can act like this was all – if we can get Ukraine to say this, then maybe we have a little nugget we can hold on to in this sea of reality.

The public self-immolation of Rudy Giuliani is such a delicious subplot. Not even a – it's becoming almost like the plot plot of this like heinous heinous presidency and i just want to say in a more broadly as a native new yorker it is it's psychically spiritually damaging and like just deeply depressing between donald trump and ruda giuliani that like this time in history is like this is the end of new york this is the end of new york city supremacy new york city almost has lost any claim to being like, especially outer, like my mother's from Long Island, I have a lot of family from Queens, like that's over now.

Like that being a good, cool, awesome, innately valuable thing, Trump and Rudy have put a stake in that, that's done. America said, all right, New Yorkers, we'll give you a shot. Exactly. And Trump and Giuliani came in and- Well, actually now you can actually rest

because Trump changed his residency to Florida that's right do you know some favor evening out it doesn't make sense Florida guy it's just brutal to see these guys on TV who like sound like my relatives make such horrible asses of themselves every day everything I'm seeing from this Florida man in the news. He seems like a good guy. There's also this other story I just want to read you about Rudy Giuliani. It's just a little bit of comic relief. I'm just going to read this article because it starts off so beautifully.

The crowd of people waiting to get into the Apple store in Union Square on a Tuesday in February 2017 included tourists, shoppers, techies, and Rudy Giuliani, the newly appointed cybersecurity advisor to President Trump. Cyber security. Giuliani showed up at the San Francisco store after being locked out of his iPhone just 26 days after Trump named him cybersecurity advisor. Jesus Christ. Because he had entered the incorrect password into his phone over 10 times.

That's hard to do. That's hard to do. And like this whole thing is like a dementia awareness PSA. Don't you think? Like this whole presidency, like between Rudy and Trump, it's just like, God. Yeah, because I think people, like there's a whole lot of sort of gray area before somebody fully has dementia. And like, we're seeing that where it's gray,

baby, we're in the gray zone, right? Like they're lucid some of the time, but then other times less so. And we're seeing that with our president and his right hand man. And it's just like the real head of cybersecurity for the United States. It's like Jared,

the genius at the San Francisco iPhone store, Apple store. It's just like the real head of cyber security for the united states is like jared the genius at the san francisco iphone store apple store it's just like oh baby like that is legitimately how he has run things trump like he would put a apple store genius like cyber security like it's not even joking people he's had experience i know stores i know television i know real estate. Yeah. That's all I need to know. That's all I've ever known. I don't want to learn anything beyond that.

He's like, where's that kid with the t-shirt with the apple on it? Exactly. Is he busy? Is he free? Yeah. This is my tech czar. David. Commander in chief of the geek squad.

He's a genius. A little genius that's been tested. Yeah. I would be on his shirt. Yeah. But I don't like the drinking part. I'm not into bars too much. Exactly. But if it's too much geniuses's been tested. I'm going to be on his shirt. But I don't like the drinking part. I'm not into bars too much. Exactly.

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Yet another charge that she is not guilty of, according to her. Third charge you got tagged on. Whoa, man. Third charge. Of bribery. Is that why her sentence has been so much more than Felicity Huffman's? Like, what is the discrepancy there? I don't understand why.

I think Felicity, she only paid like 15 or 20 grand or something. Oh, okay. To have her daughter's test completely fucked with. Yes. Right. In some ways, hers is like almost more galling Felicity Huffman's in that it was just, they cheated like the SATs.

Like that's kind of wild that you could just have somebody take or change, like correct your daughter's SATs. Oh, is that what she did? Yeah. So then what did Aunt Becky do exactly? She basically bribed someone to be like, hey, my daughter's a lit ass rower.

Wait, sorry. She did not pay USC. Oh, no. It was a phony charity. That would have been legal. She paid a phony charity. Right, right, right, right. Paying USC is how you actually get into school in America.

Yeah, exactly. That's right. We've seen your daughter's vlogs. It's going to be a lot more than 500. Yeah, that's hilarious. If you want her in here. And I know that this point has been raised a million times, but why not just do the thing where you donate a building to you?

It's just like, there's so many other ways. Look, look, they don't have building money. They have bribe of phony athletic recruiter money. Fair, fair, fair. There's levels to this. It's not Tommy Hilfiger. It's Mossimo. Exactly.

Right, right. It's not Ralph Lauren. Right. But so third charge of bribery uh got tacked on and again they are sticking to their guns fucking no not guilty okay everything and they are doing again a joint defense which people are like why are you doing this because again they're saying very risky because if one person between the two of them's like yo a deal's looking good that could end that could end not very well.

Amen. And essentially right now, because of all this, they are looking at, now obviously this isn't going to happen, but considering what the charges are, they are facing around 50 years in prison and millions of dollars of fines. Goddamn. If they're found guilty. Jeez. But they're not going to go to fucking jail. For 50 years.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are they? Working mother who sold weed? Exactly. You know what I mean? Amen to that. But that's what I think. I have a feeling they'll probably cop a plea deal when their lawyer's like, fam, don't

even fuck. Just Felicity, she wore New Balances in a green suit for 10 days. Yes. You know what I mean? Exactly. And isn't the Lifetime movie already happening? Isn't there already the movie version of this being made right now? Starring her.

Stop. No. Oh, yeah. She's playing her. She's actually, yeah, she's negotiating the rights right now. Her own story to Hallmark. Lori Loughlin's playing Felicity. Felicity's playing Solana.

It's sort of like John C. Reilly. Yeah, whatever. Yes, exactly. Thank you. You're true Westing it. Thank you. But I think, yeah, they'll do whatever. They'll be fine.

Yeah, yeah. They're rich. They're rich. It's America, man. Consequence-less. If they'll do whatever. They'll be fine. Yeah. They're rich. They're rich. It's America, man. Consequence-less. If they do a year, I'll be shocked. Yeah. If they do one year.

Found guilty a year? Yes. Wow. So what was the actual, so what ended up ultimately happening with Aunt Becky's daughter? Did she go to USC? Yeah, a second. She just did for a second. They're not there anymore.

Yeah, they left recently. Okay. second i think she just did for it's not anymore they're not there anymore yeah they left okay yeah okay so her daughter went to usc begrudgingly because she did not want to go to college as she told her youtube followers that's right as you guys know i'm not like a school person i'm like a tailgate party oh god it's like i have to go to class and shit it's just such insult to injury it's just like aunt becky went through all this trouble to get her right and that's what's doubly offensive too is like when you look at how much like the way this system is built to be like well you have to go to college if you want to enter the middle class right it's like people who don't have generational wealth like right you don't even like stop even pretending you want to do this exactly completely defanged you as a human being right

exactly just a baby who need check yeah and. And then do that. Baby need check for YouTube. Yeah. Exactly. Whereas there are other people who are like, I'm trying to get into this fucking school so I can like flourish. Yes. Or have some kind of upward mobility. Yes.

Somebody should have an investment fund that's called Hot House Flower. That's just for like the children of rich people to just like grow their money. Yeah. So that they, or just actually it could just be a Ponzi scheme. And like you would just take the money from the children. Yes. Take it. And they wouldn't pay any attention. Yes. Give to the rich and give to the rich. Yes. Yeah. Let's talk about my decade TV. Okay. So this is a website that they were talking about on AV Club. I don't know how to describe this, except for it's like a TV emulator

that when you pull it up, it allows you to choose from 70s, 80s, or 90s era TV. And what it essentially does is it skins a bunch of YouTube videos that are from these decades. So the description on AV Club, it says, you simply choose from one of the eras, 70s, 80s, or 90s, and you'll be whisked to a vintage television portal filled with hours worth of era appropriate content all of which unfolds with the fuzziness we're all objectively better off without um so you can basically see like there's a whole side thing where it's like you want soap operas you

want sports you want movies you want commercials you want cartoons you want whatever cool so what's great is like you can click the channel button and it's like a little yes and then it just randomly pops up like a youtube video that is like of that era cool so it'll just it might randomly play a fucking poly pocket commercial cool right or you might see a fucking bonanza episode i like that or whatever yeah so it's really i don't know why i thought i was like okay this is a gimmick and then the thrill of just hitting channel and random something random coming up 16 hours later i came to and uh now i'm here yeah yeah right he-man toy commercial i remember this yeah because like having your having it delivered to you so it's linear and you don't have to worry about like making decisions there's not a thousand different

decisions to make it's just like they they're going to serve this to you. Some of it's going to be garbage, but you can just sit back and not worry about the fact that your time is being wasted. Yes, exactly. Because you are here to waste time. But it's like wild though, to literally just go from a commercial for McDonald's

from the nineties and then to like a clip of a basketball game from the 90s. I'm like, I think I've experienced this once. This is time travel. I remember. This feels familiar. It's Nick Anderson on the Magic. I know this era. I'm like looking at my hand,

like the timelines in my hands. I'm like, 15 years. What era did you, what decade did you find yourself most sort of like fixated by miles? Were you 90s? I knew the 90s. I knew the, obviously the most about,

but in the eighties though, too, like there was a lot of shit that was activating deep in my brain, like an old Ford Taurus commercial. Yeah. Like, Oh, cause remember those four tours?

I had that woman who was like in a white stage and it would just be like her in a car. And she was like walking around the car talking. I'm like, a white stage. Oh, yes. And it would just be like her in a car. Yes. And she was like walking around the car talking. I'm like, yeah. Yes. I remember that. Yes.

Now, do they have like the modern commercial pre-rolls on everything or? I didn't experience that. Oh, that's interesting. But I also have ad blocker on my browser. Cool. So. You're already living in the 90s. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry. Sorry. But I have a feeling because it's a lot of like already it's like copywritten content or whatever like i mean you'd have to be you'd have the lit account to put ads in front of that get some ad sense off of that yeah because it's mostly just fan uploads right uh i gotta get in there i gotta go uh i gotta sort of see i would love to sort of dive back when were the just along john hodgeman apple, Apple, PC? That was early 2000s.

Early aughts. Okay, got it. Great. Eventually, I'm sure. We'll get there. We'll need 10 more years to pass. We'll get there. Yeah, exactly.

I just put on the 90s one and then tried to pause it while I browsed in another tab. Yes. And you can't do that. Wait, what? I don't think you can pause it. It's like you're in the 90s now, Jack. Oh, yeah. You're in the 90s now.

You're in the 90s. What is this, TiV, you're in the 90s now. You're in the 90s. What is this, TiVo? Yeah, yeah. Hit pause real quick, man. Yes, amazing. Wow. Great, I got a big story. What's it called?

Decade what? My Decade TV. Great. Yeah. Okay, I'm in. I'm sold. Guys, let's talk about BlizzCon. Okay.

Are you familiar with BlizzCon? I have to say I'm not. Do you know what BlizzCon is? I don't know what BlizzCon is. So BlizzCon is like the con for Blizzard. For DQ Blizzard. Oh, hell yeah, dude. For Blizzard.

You're smoking blood. They have a whole, this year, it's really dedicated to the Butterfinger Blizzard. I'm like doubling up. No, so it's Blizzard, the gaming company. Oh, cool. And they just started their keynote by apologizing for, we talked on, I think a couple weeks ago. Not a great start. They were sort of the gaming version of the NBA.

They sort of weren't willing to side with anyone. And in fact, somebody vaguely sided with Hong Kong and they whisked them off TV. And took all their winnings and everything. This is a disturbing trend. Completely banished them. So they did the right thing and opened up by making a completely anodyne statement about how they didn't handle it correctly. Yeah. Still not siding with anybody. Yes.

You know, supporting free speech. Yeah. That's a funny line that corporations have to walk now, like apologizing for our for our behavior and our demeanor, but yet not really addressing the core value issue. It's just like we're going to apologize that we're sorry that we missed it. We're sorry that we missed it. We're sorry that we are capitalist organizations where it's more about revenue. So what? You know, there's no room for like morals here.

It's about the cash. So like, I'll say this, but it's about the money flowing. Exactly. We're not gonna change anything but we are sorry that you are upset and they also knew that they didn't have to work too hard on the apology because they

were about to announce Diablo 4 and Overwatch 2 there you go dummies take it you'll play our game and the new World of Warcraft expansion so they hit all their bases Jack how stoked are. And a new World of Warcraft expansion. Okay, that's cool. They hit all their bases. Jack, how stoked are you about that new World of Warcraft expansion?

Dude. Hearthstone, dude? I mean, we've been talking about this for a while. You're not feeling it yet? Yeah, I'm fucking psyched. You're a Warcraft boy? You're a Warcraft boy? I thought this story was about Dane.

You a night elf? Yeah. What's your character name, dude? I am a gaming illiterate. You wielded that sword of Damocles or what? Oh, dude. Sweet. You know it, man.

Hell yeah. The trying thing is tough. I don't see, like, again, I'm not a, I'm not gaming literate either, Jack, but I am NBA literate. And I just don't see how, like, it just seems a bit like this is a unsolvable, because to Miles' point, it's just like it gets to the root of like capitalism. It's just like I don't know how –

What, are we going to stop making money? Yeah, exactly. Like fuck out of here. This is like kind of – and the NBA, like people are going to now show up to all these games. You already see it, like the free Hong Kong shirts. I'm like there's going to be protesters all the time, all the time. And like what is the NBA going to do about it? Like there's no, unless they like really divorce themselves from Chinese investment, which

is like, again, capitalism. I don't see the league doing that. I just don't see how this gets any less sticky or like any less controversial. Maybe just like the NBA will just rely on this like ADD news cycle to like wash it out of our conscious, out of the front of our brains. But I don't know. This seems a bit unsolvable to me. Yeah.

I mean, the solution should be that capitalism and democracy work together. And so you can't have. That ain't gonna work. Yeah. You can't have a dictatorship. Yes. That is married to like global capitalism. That's right. Someone said something like, I forgot who it was. Like, maybe it. Is married to like global capitalism. That's right.

Someone said something like, I forgot who it was. Like, maybe it was my wife even, or my baby. Said that. Very wise. Way, really super wise. Super wise. Like I said, I haven't slept in years. But there was like, we thought that in the 70s, when we sort of opened this trade, you

know, Nixon to China, sort of opened these pathways to China, that China was going to become more democratic. Yes. When really it's been the opposite trend. We've become more authoritarian. We have become less democratic. Yeah, exactly. Which is an unfortunate development. Yeah, it is an unfortunate development.

Once again, it's funny though, too, but then like we've also given them the curse of hyper consumer culture, too. So it's like we both got sick off each other. Exactly. We infected each other. Yeah, we both didn't get tested and we fucked around. Hey, look what happened.

Sorry, I brought it back into the bed with you. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I guess, you know, Shaq said something basically about, he was sort of thinking like, well, look,

if they want us to respect how they feel, they need to respect how Americans do things too. So it's like, why is it this one-way street? And I think because there's such, because of the amount of just revenue

that comes out of there. And also how many companies like actually manufacture things in there. It's a very like, you'd have to really upend a lot of the way you do things if you're going to be prepared to be like, here's the line or be like, this is, or we're going to say what we want.

You can do what you want and we'll just say we don't like it. Yeah. Can that be it? Yeah. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was tricky.

I mean like, LeBron just coming out like trying to protect that Space Jam 2, like just desperately needing a Space Jam 2 to do well. It's all bleak.

It's all bleak. Very bleak. Anyway, BlizzCon, World of Warcraft, right on. Diablo. Did we talk about how your conspiracy theory

about LeBron's hairline and the headbands totally true? Yeah, yeah. Well, we talked about it your conspiracy theory about LeBron's hairline and the headbands? Yeah, yeah. Totally true. We talked about it. I mean, look, guys. Can you give me a brief film? Did we cover that it was basically validated

when his headband slipped? Well, look, his hair plugs are not great. You know? It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. I don't know. Unless you're like Antonio Banderas.

Right. I don't know. That's a miraculous hair plug job, I must say. Oh, really? Oh, yes. I didn't know, unless you're like Antonio Banderas. Right. I don't know. That's a miraculous hair plug job. Oh, really? Oh, yes. I didn't know Banderas. Oh, Antonio. As a bald man, I'd be clocking all the hair plugs.

And I'm like, damn, how does this look like hair? It's just hard. But LeBron's looked like it had been glued on and shifted backwards. Yeah, look, it's hard. And then you never know how much hair you're going to have at the time with your graphs and then you lose more hair and then you keep updating your hard drive and your system software.

This is not... It's tough. Look, you'd think with the amount of... with the scientific advancements. What the fuck are we doing here? I want to come back. I want my hair to look like it did when I was 14. Exactly. But you were saying that his headbands were just a method thicker to cover up the proceeding. The NBA headbands were getting thicker and thicker and thicker and thicker and thicker and thicker.

Wider but not thicker. Yeah. Just the width, you know? Yeah. But hey, NBA has to protect their, you know, their hair lines. Their main assets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. LeBron's hairline.

Michael Jordan made it work for him. Yeah. You know what I mean their hairlines. Their main asset. Yeah, yeah, yeah. LeBron's hairline. Michael Jordan made it work for him. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yes, exactly. But I do think there's something like wise about Shaq's point when it comes to like capitalism versus authoritarianism. The reason this is such a conflict is because capitalism has adopted this idea of the company always buckles to whatever is most profitable.

And at a certain point, like capitalism, if it's going to survive, needs to take a stand, like needs to have like- It's too late. Yeah, it needs to, it can't just be this like, whatever you guys say, yes, yes.

Like do the bad- Keep the money flowing. Keep the money flowing. I mean, the head of a bunch of Fortune 500 companies, we're talking about the fact that they are trying to shift the overall focus of their companies away from pure investor-driven profitability to overall sustainability of the company. That's nice. In the long run. That's a nice idea.

It's a nice thing to say. If there's enough actual sober analysis of where where money's going you'd have to be like the wheels are gonna blow off at some point exactly and then like do we all want to just live in like armed fortresses yes exactly like is that how it's gonna go and also it's like this like like more global thing of just like wealth like wealth the wealth gap and wealth inequality it's like how much money does the nba need right like how much more money do you need that's right well i think Shaq was also feeling like, this is the fucking NBA though,

too, fool. Like, just fuck them. Be like, fuck you. Yeah. We're playing this shit over here

and then explain to your fucking people over there while they're watching Stefan Marbury. Yeah, exactly. Fucking out of breath. Yes,

exactly. Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's what the NBA's initial instinct should have been. Like, we offered,

they're like, oh, you got a better NBA? Yeah. It's so much better than the next best product. Like let one of our sixth men playing your league and it's lights out. Yes, exactly. Yeah.

It's interesting, but that's what they've also been doing with soccer though, too. Like these companies have been poaching like talent in their prime from Europe. And they're just being like, you want to make $3 million a week. and they're like oh yeah I'm a 26 year old Brazilian kid yes like a Chinese soccer clubs soccer league because they

are thinking like well shit like if there is there a way to make our league really competitive right make another product over here yeah and then we'll use all this money that's flying around here to poach like real talent there. I mean, it's not enough to create, make the league like competitive with like UEFA champions league or anything like that.

But at the same time, like that's sort of the thing too. It's like, Hmm, can we like step our game up a little bit? We want a parallel competitor, not just to like, yeah.

Interesting. And I mean, when you look at the numbers, just like the sheer size of the population in China like they uh i think uh super producer daniel was talking about how like the streaming numbers when you subtract like chinese streaming versus like when you add them it's like the entire population of america that's crazy. Or like 2X the population of America. It's crazy. Streaming like a game at once. Yes.

And it's just, the sheer numbers are great. It's like rest of the world, 700,000 viewers. China, 300 million. Yes. And it's like, I know. Wow.

But it is like this cultural thing. Taking a stand, I was reading in the paper this morning that like in mainland China, that president, how do you say it? X-I-G? Xi?

Xi? Yeah. Xi. Is hiring student spies to sit in on, in like, is like infiltrating Chinese universities with spies

and they are essentially like ratting out professors who like have any sort of opposing viewpoint. Yeah. Yeah. Like that's real. That's a real scary, slippery slope.

And like, it is, you know, and it's not like the NBA isn't tacitly endorsing that kind of authoritarianism by sort of continuing to do business

but are they? aren't they kind of in a way? which shows you at the end of the day willing to stomach it yeah exactly is the check still coming?

yeah I know all good scary and he doesn't need to send in spies man we use Twitter out here Twitter we spy on ourselves.

Yeah, we wrap people up all the time. We call them Twitter. Exactly. Adam, it has been a pleasure having you, man. Oh, man. Thank you as always for having me back. This is a real treat. Thank you so much.

Where can people find you? Twitter at Adam Lustick. Instagram at Adam Lustick. My friend Billy and I have a podcast called the No Joke Podcast, which is at No Joke Pod. Please give us a follow and a listen, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah. Good podcast. That was Billy.

By the way, he's good, man. Really good. You have so much energy. Jacked. Jacked. He's so buff. You have so much energy for somebody who's sleep-deprived. Oh, I've crossed over into like, sleep fatigue doesn't mean days, nights.

You're like, am I alive? Yeah, exactly. I'm in my own, like, sleep fatigue doesn't mean days, nights. You're like, am I alive? Yeah, exactly. Like, I'm in my own, like, my decade TV. Oh, that's why you touched my face when you first came in the office. Am I right, you're Miles? I'm like, yeah, bro.

There you are, Peter. I'm like, were you just watching Hook? Exactly. Exactly. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? I can't shout out a particular tweet.

Like, my memory is fuzzy, but my podcast colleague Amir Blumenfeld, who maybe you guys know, is pretty consistently amazing on Twitter. He really sort of consistently delivers for me. I would just give Amir a follow as though he already has like 200,000

followers. I'm like, I'm pretty good at ground here. Amir's pretty amazing at Twitter. Awesome. It still is an art form. People can still be good at Twitter. It's still a thing that art form. People can still be good at Twitter. Like it's still a thing that people can do. So always be striving. I still enjoy the hell out of it. Yes. And I love their decision not to accept.

Yeah, that was nice. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me and follow me on, let's see, Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey. Some tweets that I like. Oh, yes. This is a tweet from Caitlin J. Weyerhaeuser at Uncle Kate. It says, babies to the left of me, an actual lizard to the right. Here I am.

Too high on Megabus for any of this. Oh, that's amazing. Wait, what's Megabus? It's like a greyhound. Oh, too high on Megabus. Oh, that's amazing. Wait, what's Megabus? It's like a greyhound. Oh, yes. Too high on Megabus. Oh, yeah. It's not a new drug.

The kids are like, hey, what are you smoking? Megabus? Wait, can I retract my tweet statement? I just realized that there was a... And speaking of 90s My Decky TV, there was a commercial that someone posted a 1993 Adidas shoe commercial

directed by David Lynch that I came across for the first time. That is something to behold. So I would go, yeah, you saw that? Yes. Amazing, just amazing. I think he directed some video game ads too. Oh man, we gotta get D. Lynch back directing commercials

because nothing is quite as frightening and surreal as a D. Lynch commercial for a popular product like shoes. Okay, so you've retracted Amir's sucks at Twitter. Amir's horrible horrible he's a nightmare it's all about the david lynch 90s commercial content all right boom uh some tweets i've been enjoying jen spira tweeted tired of hiding so here goes yes i am attracted to casper no not when he corporealizes as devin sawa yes as a clear white puff. Something about the way the bottom half tapers into a wisp that's still open.

I hope this admission allows others to live freely. Open. It is open. And Chrissy Teigen, or Tygen, who you guys may have heard of. Heard of her. Tweeted, now hiring someone to lift my weighted blanket

onto my body. That job needs to exist. it's hard to make it happen. Yeah. Like if you have it, if you start up too high, getting it down to your feet. That's a separate job. That's a separate job. That's I got to start with your feet and bring it up. Yeah, that's a trick you learn when your kids are

about three gravity blankets. It's like babys new babysitter. Can't get up. Looking forward to that. Jack just used sandbags. Just pin them down. There's your gravity blanket. Alright, I'll be back. Alright, you can follow me on Twitter

at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we write out

on Miles, what's that going to be today? This is a track from just a nice instrumental producer, Smeul. Smeul. Is that how you spell it? Yes, Smeul. It's spelled S-M-E-Y-E-U-L. Smeul. Smeul. Smeul. And that how you spell it? Yeah, Smeul. It's spelled S-M-E-Y-E-U-L. Smeul. Smeul. Smeul.

And it's called Relax. Cool. You know, it's one day. Relax. Just relax. Relax. Everything's going to be fine. Stop, you know, stop being a weak.

Be easy on yourself, man. I know it's easy. Too many want to be hard. Be easy. Yeah, just be easy. Look, the river's taking us, baby. You know what I mean? It might not be at the pace you want, but guess what?

It's taking you to the mountain. You're trying to catch it. Thank you. And don't worry about the scenery you see on the side. It's not permanent because it's a river. It's going to keep taking you. So stop acting like that's permanent. Thank you.

Stop holding on to them rocks you hit on the river. That's just a rock you hit on the way there. Stop holding on to it and doubling down on your pain. Just let go and relax. Can we just keep this going for like an hour? Is this a spin-off podcast? This is good. Whoever this character is.

Yeah, that's my scammer. Wait till I start that church. That church. All right. We are going to ride out on that. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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