The Daily Zeitgeist - CyberF**ked, Trump SAVES Canada? 03.06.25
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This is fucking Luca guy, man.
I'll tell you what guy I don't need my L.A. accent, bro.
Yo, who's this?
Oh, you see this fucking Luca guy?
I wish he did play for the Knicks or more people like friggin' Luca.
Luke are that is one of the wildest like accent flourishes.
And then a being an R.
The end of an A having to be an R.
It's British people too, right?
I think I heard Elton John, I copped Elton John doing it and like,
it'll take you a couple of vodka and sodas.
Vodka.
Yeah, there was like a infamous like lonely island line where they go like,
yesterday I saw a film, as recall, it was a horror film.
It works.
It works in very specific parts of New York.
Yeah.
But yeah, my friends dad was from grew up in, in New York city.
Can't, can't get a, a, a word ending an A out without dropping that R on the end.
The hard R.
Luke or Don Chit.
The hard R.
The hard R.
Exactly.
Even when he's not trying to do the hard R, he still has it by accident.
He thought he was being cool.
Hey, what's up y'all? I thought he was being cool. of ways. Bombing on stage, bombing in public, bombing in life. I want to know what's the worst way they ever bombed or have they ever performed way too drunk or high or was there
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Hey Will, do you ever get overwhelmed by how much science happens these days? Constantly.
I'm like, ah, there's so much science I can't keep track of it all.
Then it's a good thing our podcast, Part-Time Geniuses, is counting down the 25 greatest
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 378,
episode four of Dirt Island is High Guys.
Ah!
How these episodes fly, episode four already?
Of season 378?
I mean, feels like just yesterday.
It's all Thursday.
Oh, it's almost Friday.
Friday.
There's like a morning zoo show when I was a kid.
When it was Friday, someone would scream, Friday!
That's every, I mean that's where-
That was everybody across America.
That's where inspiration for footnotes comes from.
That's from Big Boy.
Oh, okay.
That's like growing up in LA radio, working in LA radio.
That was I think when Big Boy say his name,
everyone goes, Big Why? Like in the background. That's just, that's just basic morning radio.
They also had this thing they said that was definitely unique to them. They said TGIF,
I think it was. Thank God it's Friday. Whoa. That was Dayton FM radio original, I think.
Anyways, this is a podcast where we take that morning zoo energy and take a deep dive into
America's shared consciousness.
It is Thursday, March 6th, 2025.
It's also National Slam the Scam Day, Thursday of, it's consumer protection week.
I think this will be, I don't think we're going to have this anymore. So let's enjoy our last consumer protection week. I think this will be, I don't think we're gonna have this anymore.
So let's enjoy our last consumer protection week ever.
Then the scams will be just people we're gonna have to add to our phone book in respect.
It's also National Dress Day, National White Chocolate Cheesecake Day, National Oreo Cookie
Day, National Frozen Food Day.
I think more to preserve food rather than like the preservative-laden frozen foods that, you know,
I love to eat like those kids' dinners
with the weird brownie and the penguin on it.
Also, National Dentist Day.
Shout out, dentists.
Shout out, T.
Shout out, dentists.
Wow, we got some big ones.
Oreo?
I mean, that's a big one for me.
Shout out to Oreo.
That's a big one.
You gotta tell you, take your kids aside.
And then they got real specific
on the white chocolate cheesecake for some reason.
Yeah, again, this is where honestly we should,
I'm just gonna be like,
how do I get Zeitgeist Day on here?
Yeah.
To be honest.
I'm sure we just have to pay $400.
Yeah, exactly.
$400.
Won't do it.
Local business, commerce department or whatever.
Damn it, you know what?
We're doing exactly what this thing basically is their sales pitch to
companies.
It's like seven benefits.
You get news, you get news coverage and you enter the conversation.
Yeah.
Well, got us.
Cell phone.
We got nothing else folks.
Yeah.
Slam the scam day.
I mean, it is sad because it, that did sound serious and like they were gonna pass some very legitimate legislation
behind the slam the scam.
Nope, nope.
Again, sounds like a morning zoo idea.
My name is Jack O'Brien, AKA cost going up on a Tuesday.
Musk in the house and he's douche. Stop, Mark is fucked on a Tuesday. Musk in the house and he's douche.
Stop.
Mark is fucked on a Tuesday.
Tammy 401k stays losing that one courtesy of Kristy Yamaguchi main.
Remember, I love Makonnen.
Yeah, Makonnen.
What a time.
Cousin of one of the producers who created the Daily Zeitgeist main music that you hear.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, my homie Greg's cousin.
We love Maconan.
We love. I love Maconan.
He's all right. I don't know what happened to him.
I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr.
Miles Gray.
Hey, Miles Gray, AKA.
My strums ain't all that sweet.
Maseration, want them jingling my teeth?
Maseration, blood so thick like it's glue,
come dial up BDs for you.
Okay, now, that was to the tune of Operation,
and they were talking about macerated berries,
again, to create that juicy, delicious, sweet feeling.
That was just a culinary phrase brought in.
Shout out Halcyon Salad for that combination of things.
I saw that.
I understood it.
Thank you.
Maserate your berries whenever possible.
I thought that that was a disgusting term.
I did not know what it meant and I skipped right past it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What is that?
Just like putting sugar on it and then like warming it up or you just like,
just, just honestly, sugar, put is that? Just like putting sugar on it and then warming it up? Or are you just like, just honestly, just basically?
Dip it in sugar.
Put a little, sprinkle a little sugar on there.
Sprinkle a little sugar on it.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then make it sound like masturbation.
Yeah.
For some reason.
That's what it is.
Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorite guests.
Yes.
Who hasn't been on in a while.
Thrilled to have them back,
a hilarious stand-up comedian, actor, writer,
founding member of facial recognition comedy.
You've seen her on Dear White People,
How to Get Away with Murder,
all the up-and-coming comedian lists, stages across America.
Please welcome back to the show, Fiza Desani.
Fiza Dasani!
Hey! Guys, thank you so much for having me.
Jack, Miles, good to see you.
Doesn't feel like it's been a long time.
I know it has, technically, but just, I don't know.
Yeah.
Three long years it's been, and we were just saying,
it doesn't, I don't even know what a year means anymore.
I know, why does, is this a collective experience?
Or is this just something that happens with age the perception of time just feels like just a second
It's a cult. It's I don't know. That's I wonder I mean
I think that it affects all of us, but I don't even know how to even talk about this in a smart way
I don't know everybody I talked to is like dang time goes by real quick, huh?
in a smart way. I don't know. I feel like everybody I talk to is like,
dang, time goes by real quick, huh?
The days are long.
Or yeah, the days are long.
The years are short.
The podcasts are infinite.
And like, I feel like podcast time is because it's so much of being on
in the same format, like it's just every episode is like a drop
in the infinite time loop of the
daily zeitgeist for me.
I don't, I can hardly differentiate one episode to the next.
I'm like, yeah, as we were talking about the other day and it's like,
you mentioned that in 2018.
It's like in a little pocket universe of its own.
Yeah, exactly.
It's like Severance.
Well, how? But what you like doing the show? of its own. Yeah, exactly. It's like Severance. Wow.
But what you like doing the show?
Yeah, man.
No, Severance is good.
They actually like their jobs, okay?
Oh, okay, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill.
Fizz, wonderful to have you back.
We're gonna get to know you a little bit better
in a moment.
First, we're gonna tell the listeners
a couple of things we're talking about.
We're gonna talk about the experience of owning a Cybertruck.
This has been a question that I've had.
What, what's it like for those people?
I mean, Cybertruck in particular, they, they should have known better
when they, when they bought them.
Like at that point he was well on his way to the open Nazi salutes, et cetera.
But yeah, just like what's that like to be associated with Elon Musk these days?
We'll check in with them.
We'll check in with the LA Times.
Obviously, there's the famous billionaire owned paper of Jeff Bezos in the Washington
Post, but we got our own.
Don't forget about us over here in LA.
The LA Times has a billionaire owner who's got some interesting ideas about
how to keep things fair and balanced.
So we'll talk about that.
We'll talk about how Trump is saving neoliberalism in Canada inadvertently.
All of that, plenty more. But first, Fiza, we do like to ask
our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
I mean, I'll just give you the last thing that I Googled. How many miles is going around the earth?
And I was about to do an audition where I played a lab technician for an auto manufacturer
and I don't know what that looks like.
So I just was thinking of facts that I could just maybe spit out to seem like I know what
I'm talking about.
In case you're curious, it's Earth's circumference is 24,901 miles.
So if you-
How are you going to use that?
Just give me a little flavor of how you're're gonna drop that little fact in the audition?
Okay, so I was looking I was sort of in my mind's eye seeing a lab where a car was being tested
In the lab, so it's not physically driving around but yeah, right
Wheel roller thing. Yeah, so I throw a line. I was really slick about it.
I was kind of cool about it.
I was like, huh, look at my little notepad.
You've gone around the earth?
Or I said the number.
It was like 24,000, whatever, times 10.
So it was like 400, I don't remember.
I can't do math.
240,000 miles.
Yeah, yeah.
You've been around the world 10 times.
Been around the world 10 times.
Yeah. Not bad. And then like a producer is like, hold on one second.
I think that's the circumference. That's the actual circumference of the Earth.
Oh yeah, I fact checked.
The math checked out.
We found her. We found her.
That's cool. That is a fun fact. That's also like the sort of thing I'm always looking up as a father.
Kids have curious questions like that. That is a fun fact. That's also like the sort of thing I'm always looking up as a father, you know?
Right.
Just like kids have curious questions like that.
So yeah.
Okay.
Do you still remember how many feet in a mile, Jack?
It's either.
5280.
5280?
Yep.
Yep.
I always am between 2,580 or 5,280 and I never get it right.
Hey, the numbers are there though.
The numbers, I have the numbers.
They are in the wrong order every single time.
The dyslexia is hidden, but that's all good.
That's right.
But you know what?
They're in the cloud.
That's right.
They're up there.
They're in the cloud.
I don't know a fact.
I'm like, it's in the cloud.
Let me just Google it, buffers.
Summon it down.
You know everything.
Summon it. What is something Fizzle that you think is underrated?
Oh man, robes.
I'm actually wearing one right now.
I was going to say, I caught that high pile fleece robe with the leopard print.
Yes.
I mean, I think people think of it as home wear, but I would love to bring robes out
into the world to formal events even. They're, I think they love to bring robes out into the world. No, you formal events.
Even there, I think they're stylish.
They're, they're flattering.
They cinch at the waist, which gives you a silhouette keeps you warm.
I opted for a robe instead of a jacket today.
I mean, historically, like, like aren't robes, like the popping, like the most
popping shit you could wear really, you know what I mean?
And then we just kind of made them bath robes.
I feel like if somebody pulled up like in like
emperor robes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bring back fucking emperor robes.
Not this is this is how we embrace the class war
is that we wear our bathrobes out to show people like we are.
We are the you know, the nobility of you need something, you know,
like there are umbrellas in Hong Kong.
They're, you know, everybody like has their, they had a symbol of a bit of a function too. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Those are, those are functional, uh, I think, but like bathrobes are functional
in that they're so fucking comfy. Yeah. So comfy. Who's going to get, I mean,
I feel like a billionaire. That's their nightmare.
To be like, I would never wear a bathrobe in public.
That's that.
How would they know I'm a billionaire?
And I mean, I don't give a fuck.
I'm going to be comfortable.
This is my bathrobe.
I've got multiple ropes.
I'm not going to front.
There is the concept of pajama rich that where you get so rich that you just start
wearing your pajamas out into public.
Also, I feel like wearing a pajama set is a flex.
In one of these fire relief clothing boxes I got,
there are many things like
really nice pajama sets that were donated.
I'm like, I've never worn pajama set in my life.
Part of me felt like it was like
class betrayal to put on
this Brooks Brothers pajama set that someone had donated. I'm like, I can't, I can't wear this
shit. I need to wear basketball shorts and no shirt. Okay. So Pajama Rich comes I think from a
Bill Simmons, the sports guy, uh, column where he was talking about Jack Nicholson coming to a Lakers
game in his pajamas. Nobody cared because he's pajama rich.
And Hugh Hefner also famously,
I think the one person who has pulled it off.
It just needs to be a fancy enough robe, right?
Like Hugh Hefner's robes were like silk and shit.
It was like a smoking jacket that went down to the floor.
Whereas, it just can't.
You can look past all the allegations when he wears those.
I'm just chilling.
That's the thing about me is I'm a chill person.
How often do you wear that robe, Fizzla?
Like, I know you say you like it, but are we for real?
Do you step in on it?
I wear a robe on a daily basis.
I'm known in my neighborhood as I have two big huskies.
As robe spear.
I walk around the world.
This is one robe.
I have one in black with a fuzzy neck collar.
I have one that says, Dr. Dasani, I'm not a doctor.
Wait, you have one that's like an actual doctor's lab coat or a bathrobe that just has that?
Bathrobe that is giving white coat scientist
doctor vibes yeah I do have a white coat as well just for funsies yeah and to
trick people into letting you give them shots that is the cool thing about being
Asian we could lie about being the doctor anywhere yeah you know our
doctor Dossanis they're just not me. Yeah. Oh yeah.
I'll pull up in a hoodie and just say I'm a doctor and people are like, oh, okay.
Thank you.
I'm like, I'm in dermatology.
This is what my skin looks like.
Can you please get out of the way now?
You can show up shirtless and shoeless.
I'm a dermatologist and a podiatrist.
I do it all.
That's right.
Do you think you've walked your dog's 24,901 miles over the course of-
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
You've done a four-hour walk.
Yeah. podiatrist. Do it all. That's right. Do you think you've walked your dog's
24,901 miles?
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah. You've done a full lap.
Yeah, I do about, I
do about like five miles a day.
Wait, let me do that.
What's 24,000 whatever divided by?
Yeah, no, it checks out.
You do five miles a dog walking a day?
Total. Yeah. Damn. That's five miles of dog walking a day? Total.
Yeah.
Damn.
That's some fucking, I have a small dog this and he hates walking.
He's like, for the sake of shit, I got to go back inside.
I'm not, he's like small, you know what I mean?
So there's like different levels of exercise that they need, but damn, that's a fucking,
that's a good walk you could take.
Listen to a lot of shit on that one.
All right.
And what FISA is something that you think is overrated? That's a fucking that's a good walk you could take. Yeah. Listen to a lot of shit on that one. All right.
And what Fizza is something that you think is overrated?
Oh, Apple AirPods or any sort of earbuds that just stick inside your ear and they don't have something that attaches to your ear.
This is more of a personal thing.
I just hate the way it feels.
You got tiny little ear holes?
Yeah, and they fall out.
And I just, you know, when you're on an airplane, you feel like, like your ears stuff up.
I don't know. I feel like it feels like that.
That's how you feel. Yeah.
Oh, like just from the pressure seal, like around it.
Exactly.
That just feels a little bit, yeah, okay, I get that.
Yeah, the noise cancellation on those does freak me out a little bit where you put it in and it's just like zoop.
And you feel like you're just like inside a balloon all the time.
Like what the fuck is going on here?
Yeah.
I love that shit.
Like my equilibrium gets a little fucked up.
Right?
I'm falling because I have no balance when I wear these things.
You're like, Fizzle, while your eyes crossing, you're like, bro, this is noise canceling
shit.
That was interesting.
They put it, like during the testing of the AirPods, they put it in and people
just start falling over.
The early ones?
Too good.
Yeah.
Got to scale back a little bit.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
Get it out.
Get it out.
Get it out.
Have you seen that?
I actually really liked that sensation.
I don't know why.
I think I was like, I'm one of those kids who like tried to hide in the tiniest boxes.
Like I'm the opposite of claustrophobic.
I'm claustrophilic.
I guess that's why we're drawn to each other miles.
Yeah.
And why we just hold each other so tight.
Yeah.
You see each other.
Maybe you guys can share a coffin in the afterlife.
That's right.
It wouldn't be tight enough.
Are we going face to face or a penis to butt or no, we're 69.
We're 69. 69. Yeah, that's definitely. Or Penis to butt or
Or they don't fit or they don't fit right But yeah, like have you seen those clips of like those rooms that are truly like sound vacuums like they're designed for no sound waves
To like move in them. Yeah, they're like total that I think they have to be like have the air sucked out of them like yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they say that is so disorienting and part of me is like, bro, I want to know that.
I want to know the extreme of most human sensation.
So if y'all work in one of those research facilities and you can, if you're down to have a 40 year old just come through to fuck around in there Like five minutes through let me know. Yeah, I think this costs like millions of dollars to create like they create them
Yeah, like to to build like the James Webb Space Telescope and like shit like that where they can't have any germs or like
Imperfections touching a thing they'll like create a whole room
That's a vacuum so that like the germs just like fall right to the ground or whatever.
But you're like, Hey, could I just like kind of drunk drive through there?
Yeah.
Can I play some sound cloud off my cell phone in here?
We'll tell them you're a doctor.
Yeah, exactly.
They're like, are those official doctors sandals you're wearing?
I'm like, yeah, yeah.
They're crocs.
Doctors wear some fucked up shoes because they need comfort.
No, hell yeah.
You know, they're on their feet all day.
So you're good there.
Yeah, that's true.
The, the white robe is like approximating it, but it's clearly a bathrobe and
Dr. Miles is written in Sharpie.
That's the one thing that's fucking it up.
I spell miles with like white tape all crudely just on the chest.
And you have loose cigarettes coming out of your pocket. Yeah. That's the one thing that's fucking it up. I spell miles with like white tape all crudely just on the chest.
It's all off center.
And you have loose cigarettes coming out of your pocket.
Yeah.
And I'm wearing, I'm wearing a commemorative Scrubs rewatch podcast t-shirt.
I'd be like, dude, I'm a doctor.
Why would I be wearing this?
Cause my favorite podcast.
I'm a doctor.
Yeah, I went to medical school.
Yeah.
Watched Scrubs one and a half times all the way through.
All right. Let's, uh, let's take a quick break. Should we? Yeah. Watch the scrubs one and a half times all the way through.
All right. Let's take a quick break.
Should we do that?
Should we take a little break?
Let's do that.
Do you want to come back and talk about some news?
Yes.
Let's do it.
We'll be right back.
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Hey Will, do you ever get overwhelmed
by how much science happens these days?
Constantly.
I'm like, ah, there's so much science, I can't keep track of it all.
Then it's a good thing our podcast, Part-Time Genius, is counting down the 25 greatest science
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We're talking animals.
In a paper called, quote, chickens prefer beautiful humans.
Right.
This was actually the title of the paper.
They all discovered that much like humans,
chickens are attracted to symmetrical faces.
We're talking medical miracles.
He's an endocrinologist who found a way to stimulate
insulin producing cells using, wait for it,
the saliva of a Gila monster.
There's no way to make that not sound crazy.
We even talked to some of the experts
behind these breakthroughs.
It's a week full of fact-packed stories you won't want to miss.
So listen to the part-time genius countdown of the 25 greatest science ideas of the past 25 years.
Starting Monday, March 3rd on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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How? goes lower? From Blumhouse TV, iHeart Podcasts, and Ember 20 comes an all-new fictional comedy
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And Santi was gone. I've been spending all my time looking for answers about what happened to Santi.
And what's the way to find a missing person?
Sleep with everyone he knew, obviously.
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Something about Mary Poppins?
Something about Mary Poppins, Something about Mary Poppins.
Exactly.
Oh man, this is fun.
I'm AJ Jacobs and I am an author and a journalist and I tend to get obsessed with stuff.
And my current obsession is puzzles.
And that has given birth to my podcast, The Puzzler.
Dressing.
Dressing.
Oh, French dressing.
Exactly. Oh,. Dressing. Oh, French dressing.
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Now you can get your daily puzzle nuggets delivered straight to your ears.
I thought to myself, I bet I know what this is. And now I definitely know what this is.
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That's awful.
And I should have seen it coming.
And we're back.
And I've been waiting for the backlash.
And I mean, it's coming like Tesla stock is way down, right?
Like that it's going down and doing badly. Not as badly as I think it deserves,
but it's been doing badly.
It's definitely on its way down.
There's definitely a lot of debate over
if it's actual people boycotting the brand,
if it's just generally it's on a downward slope
because Teslas have become less desirable in the EV market.
But, cause like there are some that are claiming,
they're like, yes, yes folks, this is what we did to Elon Musk.
And I was like, no, it's hard to exactly say if it's just because of the Trump
shitter, just because the guy sucks overall and people fucking hate him.
It's hard to tell, but it is.
It's not doing great, but it also is so volatile.
Yeah, it's volatile.
It's always been volatile.
It was at its peak, like after he let after the election, like right after, I
think inauguration day or right before, I guess, like December was its peak of all
time and since then it has fallen sharply, uh, but probably, you know, hard
to differentiate as of yet.
I do just feel like it's gotta be so much less cool to own a Tesla now than it ever has been in the history of that car or any, maybe Volkswagen during World War II.
But it's not, not a good.
People didn't put it together. I don't think.
Yeah, I don't think they were super popular.
Hey, what's, what's Hitler's, what's, wait, what's that car he's in right now? Um, I think that, well, I don't know about driving around LA.
I see people going hard at cyber trucks.
I admittedly have also gone hard at the cyber truck owner.
I didn't do middle fingers because my dad taught me better.
But the thing I do is I'll give a thumbs down like this, just straight up.
Straight up.
I think, I think a thumbs down down like this, just straight up.
Straight up. I think I think a thumbs down, like just like, you know,
the shit where like you're in sort of bumper to bumper traffic
and you're facing the opposite lane of traffic.
Yeah, like I can look dead into the driver's eye.
I'll just do some shit like I'm fucking what's the plan?
Nero. I'll be like, no.
What? And some people are like, fuck you.
And I was like, oh, do they really get that, some people get a reaction because part of me just feels like it's the most childish way to say fuck you is just like this.
Thumbs down.
But back in the day in what is the Roman times or Greek times at the amphitheater, thumbs down.
Yeah, that was like life or death.
And these motherfuckers do we think about ancient Rome?
So maybe they are taking that to be something.
They're like, damn, he just threatened our life.
Yeah, watch.
So you have to be like, no, but in a Siskel and Ebert way.
But you know what?
Some of them deserve that because I almost, me and my dogs were walking.
We almost got hit by a cyber truck that ran a stop sign.
So that guy gets a thumb down, you know?
Yeah, 100%.
I would agree with that.
But also.
I mean, for something like that, that's a little more existential.
I think you can go harder than a thumbs down,
but again, to each their own,
you don't have to engage all these people,
but yes, the brand is not strong in this city.
And it's to the point where people have to put like,
help me bumper stickers on their Teslas,
where they're like,
hey, this was before the guy came out as a fascist dick bag
is when I bought this.
For the record, I didn't buy it because because but I think that's why Cybertruck owners
get the stick because this shit has been for purchase in the new
fuckboy era of Elon Musk and there's real no plausible
deniability around whether or not you like with your politics,
it did or didn't affect your purchase.
Yeah.
Either way, a Cybertruck let me merge and I just had cognitive
dissonance. It was very difficult for me.
Yeah.
Whoa, what?
He just slammed the brakes and brake checked it to get rear end.
He's like, fuck it.
I had to do something.
But in, so they've been in the news this week.
Uh, first of all, Tesla has been in the news.
Somebody, uh, lit, I think the first Tesla, uh, not factory, but the first
Tesla like showroom in
France on fire and burnt it to the ground.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
You know how France do.
But there's just been a smattering of stories that suggest that owning a
Cybertruck means being subjected to a never ending gauntlet of embarrassment and shame.
True.
So there was a Mardi Gras parade in New Orleans
and a cyber truck rolled up and it was like all black
but then had like flashing lights
and kind of looked a little like the car from Knight Rider
had some interesting stuff.
Like I think in a, yeah, it looked a little like kit
but like also the lights were flashing on the top.
So it could look like a cop car a little bit.
But the second that rolled up cops, it was cyber trucks.
Are they really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
The second that shit rolled up, it was just mercilessly booed, just unending from the
time it was in sight of the people on the side of the road.
Some people on Reddit were also claiming that the car was pelted with beads, uh,
aggressively until a window broke.
Oh, those windows suck.
Yeah.
Those windows are supposed to be indestructible.
Those accounts are unconfirmed and yet very funny.
Wait.
Okay.
So this is, wow, This thing looks annoying as fuck
Wow, okay. Well, yeah, that's I don't know what that person thought the reaction was gonna be
Yeah, dude, my car everyone's gonna fucking they probably live their life on
They probably like live their life on, I guess my thought heading in to this was like, oh, they probably live their life on like cyber truck enthusiast forums. But as we'll get to, even those
are not safe. Those are just people sharing horror stories of what it's like to drive around in a
cyber truck. There's a report on 404 media about a Facebook group for cyber truck owners in which
they commiserate about
the shared hell of driving around in a Cybertruck.
Apparently, people are constantly leaving notes containing
messages like Nazi car and what's Elon's cum taste like.
Which is another way of giving the thumbs down a little bit more explicit.
That must be so shattering to some cyber truck owner's soul to be like,
but this is the stuff I ship post on 4chan coming back at me.
What if he's like, Elon Musk's come is delicious.
It's really good. It's actually better than...
So that's a famous misconception is that it wouldn't be good, but it's actually good.
So you're actually the one who looks stupid right now.
Yeah.
Maybe it's an acquired taste.
Right.
It is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
People also kick the cars, throw quote slices of cheese at them for some reason.
Right.
No word on whether the cheese has shattered any windows.
Yeah.
Well, probably.
I think this is the thing that I also see too, is the amount of people who
cope with their cyber truck and they're like, dude, this shit's like such a
fucking truck dude is so sick.
Like he just does all this truck stuff.
Cause it's like man truck and I'm truck man with it.
Um, and there's also so many videos of it.
Absolutely failing to do the most basic things like driving just
a little bit of snow or all this other stuff.
And it's interesting to see how like obviously with Elon Musk ascending to like the heights
of government and sort of being like the winner at the moment in terms of like the socio
political environment that that hasn't really changed anything about traditional mass like
American male masculinity. Like a truck is still like a Ford or a Dodge or a Chevy.
You know what I mean?
Not this fucking weird like drawing of like from a fucking,
you know, octagonal like video game rendering car.
And I don't know, like it's interesting to see how
there's still that group of people who are like,
well, now Elon's on top.
Behold, I'm one of these Cybertruck guys.
Now you'll celebrate me, right?
Wait, what's his cum taste like?
Well, hold on.
But I thought we're winning.
First of all, probably delicious.
Second of all, how would I know?
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But there's, so these Cybertruck groups, Facebook groups are, you know, first of
all, entertaining because you get to see the
collection of all all the people flicking them off.
But it also reveals something scary, which is that Cybertrucks are outfitted with so many cameras that they can catch like every they're like, look, this person's rolling their eyes as they drive by in the opposite lane on the four or five.
Right, right, right. They have just like super high. They can just obsess over it.
They're insecure.
They play by play.
Oh my God, this fucking guy gave me three thumbs downs.
I was recording in sentry mode.
That's what they call it, sentry mode.
Jesus.
Yeah.
Well, I've also seen people post like how the camera arrays work.
And they're like being like, there aren't that many blind spots. But hey, I've also seen people post like how the camera arrays work. And they're like being like, it's there aren't that many blind spots, but hey,
I don't know.
I don't know if anyone is a Tesla mechanic and you can tell us how to
completely render those cameras useless, maybe by simply turning it on because
it's a Tesla, but I'm curious to know these kinds of tips and tricks.
Yeah.
They're, they're also trying to identify the people who are
flipping them off or giving them thumbs down miles.
You should go on these forums to make sure they're not coming for you.
Very free speech. Very free speech absolutists.
I know, right?
Yeah.
We're all about free speech and making comedy legal.
I'm going to fucking sue that 12 year old that rolled their
eyes at me.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
God bless you.
I will tell you about the time when I first learned the, uh, flip off motion
like this one, you know, the, the, the full forearm.
Yeah.
The full forearm.
One, my friend and I, when we were like five, learned that. Then we just went in my backyard to the street that went behind my house and just flipped off every door.
I am doing that.
Just full body flip-off.
That's like, what does that imply?
Elbow deep.
That's way worse than a finger.
I know.
That's his gesture.
I don't know.
I'm just going off the, you know, I make that does make more sense.
Like, because you're stopping at a certain point, but it's like so universal.
I'm going to stick my fist up your ass.
You're giving them wrist and.
Yeah.
Up to the bicep.
Anything more would be a little possible, I believe.
Yeah. Or I would be charged with murder.
So let's be real. Anyways, I impossible I believe. Or I would be charged with murder.
Anyways, I got in trouble.
Oh you did?
Did somebody pull over and be like,
I hate you little assholes.
It was like Wheeling, West Virginia.
It wasn't like a big town, so I probably flipped off my three neighbors.
Mrs. O'Brien?
Your son is out back,
giving everybody the full body.
I'm going to fist your asshole.
You're young enough, you could just say,
the plausible deniability of I don't know what it means.
I think that's what I went with,
even though the whole point was that I had just learned what it meant.
I don't think my mom believed me.
I still remember lies I told at this period of my life.
Damn, well, don't put it on wax.
The brush is going to come back to haunt you.
Your mom is going to be like, I knew it.
I fucking knew it.
You're grounded.
He knew it. Yeah, Jack knew the whole time.
Honey, get in here.
You won't believe I just heard on his podcast.
One guy on Facebook is claiming that his roofing business lost 70 grand in business.
I saw that.
I saw that post.
Purely because of his cyber truck.
Yeah.
Because, well, I mean, I guess he like incorporates cyber trucks into his business.
Oh.
You know, those are the trucks that they use on business.
And somebody was like, yeah, I was going to give them our work.
And then we canceled the contract because fuck this guy.
Yeah.
They don't want their property with cyber trucks all over their property.
It's not a good look.
So this guy just invested in the wrong horse.
Yeah.
I think in some part, they're like, they like Elon Musk because of the edge
lord shit, and then they're shocked when people are associating that with them
because they bought the Edge Lord car.
And they're like, well, they're like me in the backyard being like doing the thing
that's Edge Lord and then being like, well, I didn't know what it meant.
Right. Because they're just stuck.
They're just stuck in the like, here comes a car.
Yes. And then when someone when someone goes,
excuse me, I think your kids like flicking people.
How are you doing?
It meant TGI loser.
Shit.
Loser shit.
Me and cyber truck owners.
That's what we have in common.
Yeah.
It's still finding.
I did like this one. Another cyber truck owner on the Facebook group pointed out that actually all this hate is a good thing for Tesla because Elon Musk is a genius and quote, the massive online negativity is actually fueling more curiosity and exposure.
Yes. Yes. Similar. Like when you post crimes on the internet and then there's a lot of you know, curiosity from the police investigating it. Yeah, it's like great, dude. It's like
so bad. They write about us in a very mocking tone. Oh, yeah. Well, look, we all we all
cope in our own ways. So sort of like the all publicity is good publicity. But right. I mean, the real question I think is, are sales up?
No, no.
So nine hours ago in the New York Times, Tesla sales slumped in Europe as anger toward Elon Musk grows.
What a genius.
Tesla's worst performing markets as global sales plummet.
Yeah.
So not popular in the U.S.
I mean, in Europe, in the U.S.
might still be hanging on because of, because they, people want to prove that
they're not part of the woke mine virus.
Yeah.
Here's, I think this is a good sign.
Tesla brings back 0% loans to boost demand in the U.S.
Wow.
0% loans?
Damn bro, in this fucking environment Zero percent. Damn, bro. In this
fucking environment. I love a zero percent, but not for
this shit.
Give a Tesla away.
Yeah, I fucking need some good sales figures here. Could we
just give you these cars and like you just pay us back
whenever is good. They're like, yeah, fucking taking the public
library approached.
You can just have this. Like, honestly, we.
Yeah, no, it's yours free and clear.
And then just like, do you think you could pay us back at some point?
That would be cool.
We don't want to bum you out.
No worries, if not.
No worries, if not forgiveness.
All right.
We speaking from one billionaire to the next.
This is our country.
We've covered Jeff Bezos completely shitting all over the Washington Post.
But what about South African Los Angeles Times billionaire owner Patrick Sun Shung?
Who is doing something?
I mean, I don't know.
Genius?
Someone say? doing something, I mean, I don't know, genius. So this is, I just want to give the backdrop because now remember then when
the LA times were like, we're not going to endorse Kamala and his daughter came
out and said it had to do with Gaza.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was now I'm like, he's actually too far left for you guys.
He's the most far left billionaire you've ever met.
And now with this news, I'm like, wow.
Far left, South African billionaire out there, which means you're just, you're
not a Nazi, you're more, I guess a clan member, I guess is how that would work.
Well, that, which makes sense because so Patrick Soon-Shang is doing something
even more cowardly than Bezos to the op-eds.
Uh, he's touting a new AI bot as a way to bring quote,
balance to opinion pieces.
So this is something he tweeted out with this new feature that is going to go
along with certain articles to give people just a taste of like if there's
bias or just counterpoints, they quote,
now the voice and perspective from all sides can be heard, seen and read.
No more echo chamber thanks to our talented content management
software team running this Graphene platform.
So essentially, you read an op-ed, users can click to generate
a summary of the op-ed, and then that AI summary can provide
fucking counterpoints to that to help someone understand that
the KKK was not bad.
Well, that's what actually happened.
It was a cultural movement, Miles.
What else do you need to know?
Yes. What books are you scraping for these answers, AI?
So columnist Gustavo Arellano,
he wrote a piece in the LA Times about the city of Anaheim's deep ties to the Ku Klux Klan
and that the city council miss an opportunity
to grapple with that sordid past when they didn't acknowledge the 100 year anniversary of said city
council ousting the Klan members. They're like, nope, can't be here anymore. Sorry. But it's
pretty straightforward opinion piece. He's giving analysis on a historical fact and then adding-
The thing that we should maybe be proud of, fighting against authoritarianism and
institutional open racism at a time when
that is skyrocketing around the country.
Maybe this would have been a nice thing to
remember that people used to have courage.
Remember, you can just do this thing and just say,
well, that's just like your opinion, man.
Is that what the AI did?
No, the AI added this tidbit that everyone's like, why is it caping for the
clan, quote, local historical accounts occasionally framed the 1920s clan as a
product of quote, white Protestant culture responding to societal changes rather
than an explicitly hate driven movement, minimizing its ideological threat.
So they're responding to societal changes.
Really in many ways,
they were following the teachings of Jesus.
That's what that was all about.
First of all, a product of
white Protestant culture implies so much white supremacy
that to suggest that it's
just this rewording much white supremacy that to suggest that that's,
it's just this rewording of white supremacy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. White, responding to societal changes.
So it's a product of racists responding to demographic, racial demographic shifts around them
and realizing that violence was the answer to try and preserve their small worldview. But yeah. Minimizing its ideological threat.
I do like that. I mean, they basically described.
So some people use this wording to minimize how scary it seems,
but it's still white supremacy.
They just don't say that part. Yeah.
Yeah, of course. Of course not.
So I'm-
Damn AI, this is good stuff.
Can you imagine someone just write an op-ed about the Civil
War? So this stupid fucking robot will be like, if this is a
this is a disagreement about economic priorities and
nothing else to see. That's the whole thing. Move on. The
feature though was taken down after I think someone at the
times bothered to see what this fucking thing was even saying
to people. But many other journalists pointed out very quickly.
So they took it down and they're like, oh, shit.
But it's still up on other portions of the LA Times website.
I think, you know, some people are reporting it as like an L for the LA Times.
But this is exactly what these billionaire pricks want.
They want to obscure facts.
So as long as people come away with a narrative that normalizes inequality,
then we're good. Then we're good.
That's kind of, even if it goes against maybe what I believe, at a certain point, it's better
to have people completely in disagreement over the most basic things so they can't sort
of coalesce around a theme about maybe just wealth hoarding and who's to blame for that.
There's an agenda here.
It's, I mean, we're being told that, oh, it's to provide a balanced perspective.
But you know what, some things,
do we really need a balanced perspective over like,
to where, you know, do we need to warm up towards the KKK?
Is that necessary?
But what's scary is some people might say, yeah.
Yeah, no, of course.
And I think for people to say like,
for I'm sure one of the biggest impediments
for these like rabid white supremacists, like people like still give a fuck about each other.
That's the biggest problem.
Like, we're not just willing to all the time throw people on the waste pile.
I mean, we very much are in certain respects.
But I think being able to give people the logic to sort of attach themselves to
these really hateful ideologies without it in its face being like,
this is hateful ideology.
It's like, no, I'm a Nazi because of societal changes I'm responding to.
Right.
And that's why Nazism, I think, gets a bad rap is kind of like the sort of way
they want to sort of normalize this kind of thing because that's one of the biggest things. It's just funny that Nazi is such
a bad like loaded word in American culture that even a Republican say it to
attack Democrats. So you know it is bad like you only say that because you know
it is bad but okay go on go on. Yes it bad, but we're not allowed to wave like they did. Come on.
I mean, yeah, yeah.
Guys, free speech.
Free speech.
We still got the thumbs down.
We have the thumbs down.
They get to do not.
So if you're going to give a thumbs down to me and my sick car, I at least get to do a Nazi salute.
Okay.
I wonder if how horrifying that'd be if like a, like a, if people just walk around Wall Street, just giving every dude in a suit a Nazi salute. Okay. I wonder if how horrifying that would be if like a, like a, if people
just walk around wall street, just giving every dude in a suit, a thumbs down.
Like, like they just pull up like in their way and just go, I mean,
we talk to them to their core.
We talked yesterday about how ineffectual and scattered the democratic party's
response to Trump's speech was if they had all just showed up fucking.
And just given the, a silent, dead based thumbs down.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The whole time.
Yeah.
I mean, it would have been so stupid.
Like I kind of would have liked it.
It would have been more unified than whatever the fuck that shit was on Tuesday.
Yeah.
The.
Placards.
It's just so sad.
We're like, maybe they can fight the fascists off with the thumbs down.
And that's an improvement on what we saw.
Oh boy.
What if we got some elbows?
Or what would the whole arm?
Yeah.
Who they would have been escorted out.
I was going so hard when I was doing it as a five-year-old.
I was like full body like, shit was bruised and shit after. Yeah. They would have been escorted out. I was going so hard when I was doing it as a five-year-old. I was like full body.
Like, ugh.
Shit was bruised and shit after.
Yeah.
Just dislocating my shoulder.
Wait, the frequency of you doing that?
So what?
Did you give like one car like five?
You're like, yeah.
Five, five, yeah.
Fuck, fuck, fuck you.
Fuck you.
Machine gun fire, semi-automatic, middle finger.
What is that gesture called?
It's not the middle finger, it's the up yours,
I guess would be what it's called.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, up yours with two thirds of my arm.
Yeah.
I'm trying to see, like what is?
No, seriously, let me put two thirds of my arm up your ass.
I mean, that's one way to say I love you.
Yeah, that's one way. Exactly, and that's what I tried to explain to my mom
and she's not having it.
Mom, what better way to express my love for our neighbors?
I spoke like a 48 year old guy from Brooklyn when I was five.
Ma.
Ma.
Come on, ma.
Ma, they're freaking out over there,
they're freaking up yours, really?
Ah. All right, let's take a quick break. Five. Ma, ma, come on, ma, ma, they're freaking out over to freaking up. You always really.
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And I should have seen it coming.
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So just an unintended outcome of Donald Trump's 5D chess that is actually like half a dimension. I feel like.
One dimension, it's flat.
Yeah, one.
No, it's not even flat.
It's a point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But like 5D chess implies he's playing chess five moves in advance.
And I think he is not even thinking about the move he's making as he's making it.
I think it's less, no, he's moving the chess pieces on a board or they're like, bro, you can't do that.
Yeah.
The pond can't move like a queen, bro.
Yeah.
I can't watch this.
Like, bro, you, you're going to lose that.
He's like, all right, fine.
I'll do this.
And he's like, that's not a good movie.
Oh, we'll see.
We'll see.
And then he just puts a handgun on the table and says, I can't.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Oh no.
That's a toy. That's clearly a toy gun. It's got the orange thing in the barrel.
All right. So he is basically,
and maybe there is an argument to be made that this is a successful five D
chest thing,
because the only thing that's going to keep fascism alive is the continued
survival of like ne neolib shit,
you know? Right. So maybe this is five. I feel like this is what he's just like knocking shit
over and it just keeps turning up like fucking aces for him. I'm just mixing all my board,
all my table games here. But so a few months ago, Trudeau announced he was resigning.
A new party leader would be chosen with an election happening at some point later this year.
His unpopularity was like unprecedented.
People were just completely out on his bullshit.
Much very similar to Biden.
It was just he was incredibly unpopular.
His policies like the sort of neoliberal angle of being like,
hey, we want to help you.
Here are some policies that help you.
And then they ultimately just are means for funneling wealth
towards wealthy people and corporations.
People were like, fuck this, maybe.
And so the stage was set for a massive liberal defeat, much like we saw in the U.S.
I know the margins weren't massive, but like when you take into account, like
what should have happened given Trump with the options could be, it was really
a massive defeat and complete fuck up by the Democratic party.
It was really a massive defeat and complete fuck up by the Democratic party.
So now though, that Trump has come into office and has threatened Canada with,
uh, in every way, basically, I mean, very implied military threats of being like, we're going to, you're going to be our 51st state.
Uh, but obviously the big one is the economic tariffs.
He has come back and been like, this guy's an asshole.
You know, he like did a direct address to Americans was like, I'm sorry,
you're doing this to yourself.
And that has been incredibly popular in Canada.
Everybody is like, well, I guess the election used to be about like
domestic Canadian policies, but now it's all about
fending off threats posed by the Trump administration.
Their numbers has shot up.
Nothing like a common enemy.
Yeah, exactly.
Totally.
To bring the people together, right?
Yeah.
This is the best thing that happened to Trudeau.
It is wild.
As our elections are happening, all Canadians, I can, we're like, we're right behind you.
We're right behind you.
We're about to go.
We're about to flop to the right also.
And then it's just wild how the emergence of this shithead
Trump immediately like, what the fuck?
Like, it just sort of immediately has people being like, right.
Hold on a second.
This guy is a fucking loser and dangerous.
And all the people that are parroting that shit in our country,
this is it cannot lead to whatever is going on.
So the person who was favorite to take
over for Trudeau was the head of the conservative party, Pierre Poliev.
Poliev, every Poliev, every, poly every, Pierre poly every.
I don't know why he's Italian.
Yeah, probably every.
He was poised to coast to victory and now has
completely had to revamp his strategy because his,
in the run up to our election,
like the thing that was giving him strength was that he
was being repeatedly referred to as Canada's Trump.
And now that's not good for him.
Now that Trump has had a chance to be really bad at his job in the eyes of
everyone, except for like the 30% of Americans who voted for him, you know,
they're like, Whoa, that might be a very bad thing.
It's, it is interesting though, too.
Everything Trump does has this weird
effect of also doing the opposite thing if he wants, like he's like, well,
I'll bend in Ukraine.
And now Europe's like, bro, we need to fucking we need to cut these Americans
out of the conversation because they're going to fucking destroy everything and
like fuck, fuck all this.
So and as like, oh, shit, they're getting each other's backs now.
This is different. And now with Canada, Trudeau and I was like, oh, shit, they're all getting each other's backs. Now this is different. And now with Canada,
Trudeau merely just being like, this is some bullshit, guys. And
it was like, yeah, we're back. We're back. And Mike, look, a
word of warning to the Canadians, man, do not let the
presence of an aspiring fascist turn into a neoliberal honeymoon.
Okay.
The democratic party should have taken the biggest, like a bigger L in over what happened in 2016.
But the presence of Trump made everyone nostalgic for the before times.
Completely lost sight of like what was ailing society and what actually needed to be addressed.
So take the opportunity if you can.
Now, I don't know.
I'm not going to be easy, but theoretically,
you could drive a stake into the heart of right wing extremism
and meet people's needs.
OK, because if you let the rot of inequality continue,
the fungus that is authoritarianism rule will have the perfect environment
to replicate and thrive in. And you're just going to end up being the same place we
are down the road.
Like it's not, it's not going to be enough to be like, Oh, thank God.
He's standing up to it.
You now have to take the opportunity to like just fucking learn from this.
It's because the Democrats did fuck all to address the needs of the people at
the expense of the donor class that we're in this mess that we're in right now.
And also just ideologically, it's impossible for them to bite the hand that feeds.
So we were fucked either way.
But Canada, you already got a leg up on America in a few ways in terms of how
you're treating your people.
So just, I'm just, it'll come back though.
If you're not careful, shit will come right back.
They are waiting for material conditions to be bad enough for people to be like, It'll come back though. If you're not careful, shit will come right back.
They are waiting for material conditions to be bad enough for people to be like,
yeah, fuck it, destroy everything.
I wonder if we're going to be able to, if the US is going to be able to get out of that.
Because it is, it does feel like the only thing that can make the idea of sort of that corporatocracy,
but Democrat, look good is what Trump is doing.
You know, like he's doing the exact thing to make people be like, I mean, I
guess back to the other thing, I guess Biden was fine.
Like, yeah, I guess no, it wasn't.
And it's not now.
And I think that's, you know, if I've like, you think like the most
cynical of democratic strategies would be going to these billionaires, like, look, dude,
we need all y'all to do token donations to bring your cred
back up and make people feel like you contribute to society.
Just fucking just do these token offerings to just fucking
bring the temperature down a little bit and say you're okay
with it. And then we can if you're okay with just a little bit more taxes we can just do some stuff that'll
keep them at bay before they all fucking turn on us that's but they can't even do
that they're just like but Trump's bad so you're like well that okay there goes
any opportunity to do anything even the most cynical sense to try and keep the
fucking powers that be in power.
Cause I mean, the road inevitably just ends this way.
Right.
So yeah, all these countries have the entire economically populist lane to go
down where you can create policies that actually benefit people instead of
corporations and by the way, corporations are people too.
So Miles, when you said Joe Biden didn't do things for people,
you were leaving out a big chunk of the population.
I would refer you to Citizens United.
Thank you. I will refer you, Your Honor.
No further answers, Your Honor.
But it's just so wild that they are leaving this huge lane
that has proven to be popular in
the past with the Sanders campaign coming out of nowhere in 2016 doing remarkably well
in 2018.
But again, like to your point, I think people just lost their nerve because they were like,
well, we got to beat him and Sanders isn't going to win.
Like this is not a time to be taking chances.
This Trump guy's...
The polling indicates that he could. Like, wait, this is not a time to be taking chances. This Trump guy is- The polling indicates that he could.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Like everybody's playing the horse race game too much.
I mean, do you think that they, the Democrats, those in power who didn't
want to bite the hand that feeds them actually would rather have Trump than Bernie?
That's a great question.
I mean-
Probably.
Yeah.
I think they probably know that Trump is better for their, they are so
distinct from what, you know, what Bernie Sanders and like, you know, the,
the idea of a progressive politics that actually like is focused on helping
people that, yeah, I don't, I don't think there's anything about Bernie Sanders that appeals
to mainstream Democrats.
Whereas with Trump, it gives them something to in theory, you know, fundraise.
I was going to say like in theory run against, but it's not even really running.
It's just fundraising.
Do you know, I got so many fucking texts during that address, begging
texts from the Democrats, you know what I mean?
Like they're still, they're so caught in their ways.
They're like, yeah, fine, man.
We'll just like, people will be freaked out again and maybe we can get more money.
Although now I think they're realizing people are so fucking disheartened by
everything there, it's the money ain't flowing in like it used to.
They're willing to try anything except the, uh, Bernie Sanders thing that would
actually work because that is, yeah.
I mean, it's just, it's the thing that we saw with Biden coming up against certain
things and being like, ah, what can I do, man?
I'm, I'm trying over here.
And it's like, what's the unspoken thing?
You're not saying what, what are you trying and not able to like, yes, there's
Republicans in Congress, but it's also,
what do you want me to upend the status quo?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
And I think that's, it's the basic thing.
I mean, like going forward, the only people who will be worth listening to or voting
for are people who can just very simple premise, the status quo is violent and
it's killing people and it's. And it's making everyone unhappy.
Their needs aren't being met.
And we're so far removed from even what people call the good old
days when people could have...
Like, even my grandmother was a fucking switchboard operator and
shit. And my grandfather drove a bus.
They were able to do shit and have a house, even being black, like that shit was kind of possible.
Even then we're so far from that in the progressive tax policy that we had then.
We're just, so if you're not, if you're not willing to come to the table and be
like, Hey guys, everything that's been happening for the last few decades, we
have to reverse course on all of this.
But that is just far too extreme a mess, like perceived as far too extreme
a message from, again, the stakeholders of our media and things like that, that it just, it's,
yeah, but that's really what it is. Someone who's like, we just need to change a couple of things.
No, we don't. We need to change fucking so many things. And if you're not really saying that with
your whole chest, don't waste people's time. Tweak the messaging.
Yeah.
But then you get that kind of stuff.
Right.
Yeah. All right.
Fizzah, what a pleasure having you back on the show.
Thank you so much for joining.
Where can people find you,
follow you, all that good stuff?
Thank you so much for having me.
It's always a pleasure.
I can be found on the Internet along with most people.
Oh yeah. The internet you say.
At Fizitasani on Instagram, TikTok, threads, X, Facebook.
X the everything app?
Twitter.
You don't say X?
We say Twitter.
We say Twitter in this household.
Yeah, we do.
We say Twitter, yeah.
Yeah.
Fizitasani.com and then also check out facial recognition comedy.
It's a show that I host monthly that I run with Pallavi Gannalan,
who's also been on this show and Zara Ali.
Our next show is March 21st.
It's usually the third Friday of the month at the Comedy Store,
so check it out.
And yeah, it features a bunch of comics where not the same person.
Oh, wow.
Yeah. Okay. A lot of brown comics that we same person. Oh, wow. Okay.
A lot of brown comics that we all get mistaken for each other,
guys, girls, it doesn't matter.
You can't really see that, like, no, that's okay, never mind.
It's funny though, it's a funny show.
We have different comics every month and it's nuts.
Nice. Is there a work in media you've been enjoying?
There are. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got this tweet. I saw this tweet that just took me back. Let me find. Oh, yeah.
So on Twitter, Trash Jones, aka at JZUX said about three days ago, by age 30, you should have one harrowing friendship breakup
that you talk about with the fragile stoicism of a Vietnam veteran.
And that just hit me.
That's good life of mine.
Damn.
Yeah.
Yo, I got one I could think of.
Yeah.
If you don't got one, you're not living messy enough.
Yeah.
And I don't have one, so I'm not living messy enough.
And I don't have one because I don't set healthy boundaries.
I don't. I'm so I'm not living that. And I don't have one because I don't set healthy boundaries. I don't. I'm saying mine came as a result of like a therapist.
You're like, you should actually set boundaries with people.
I'm like, what?
Cut to I hear the choppers flying overhead.
Amazing.
Miles, where can people find you as their work in media you've been enjoying?
Yeah, find me everywhere they got ad symbols at miles of gray. G R A Y not G R E Y
I know we habitually spell gray like G R E Y but it's G R A Y and I love when people spell
This always happens. You got the handle right?
To talk to me, but then you spell my full name G R E Y
but then you spell my full name, G-R-E-Y. I'm like, how did you, what?
Who is y'all?
Wow.
I get it at Autofills.
But anyway, you also find Jack in the Basketball Podcast,
Miles and Jack, I'm at Booskies.
And I'm talking 90 Day Fiance on 420 Day Fiance
with Sophia Alexandra.
A tweet I like is from at Len Zero Killer,
it looks like Leno Killer, and it said,
we found bruv in a bloke-less place.
We found bruv in a bloke-less place. We found bruv in a bloke-less place.
Awesome.
So stupid.
You can find me on Twitter at jack underscore O'Brien and on
bluesky at jackob, the number one.
Tweet, I've been enjoying from Brooks Otter Lake.
I underscore zzzZZZZZ tweeted,
Anora don't shaking TV.
You don't need to do that stuff Anora.
You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
We're also on blue sky at Daily Zeitgeist.
You can find us on Instagram at the Daily Zeitgeist. We're also on Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. You can find us on Instagram at
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this episode, wherever you're listening to it, doesn't matter. Check out the description of the
episode and there you will find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information
and articles that we talked about, used for
research in today's episode. We also like to link off to a song that we think you might enjoy.
Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy?
I think there's a song people might enjoy.
Oh, wow.
So there is a band I really like called Men I Trust. We've gone out on this track before
called Billy Toppy, but Men I Trust has put out like a Men I Trust, we've gone out on this track before called Billy Toppy,
but Men I Trust just put out like a live sessions album
and the live version is also really good.
It's like one of those kind of driving,
kind of like rock tracks.
I really like the just picked driving,
humming bass on this one.
But yeah, it's also a super good live track.
So this is Men I Trust, Billy Toppy, the live version.
All right, we will link off to that in the footnotes today.
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