The Daily Zeitgeist - Dallas QAnon Gets Scary, Did ‘Seinfeld’ Age Poorly? 11.24.21

Episode Date: November 24, 2021

In episode 1037, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and co-host of 420 Day Fiance and Private Parts Unknown Sofia Alexandra to discuss The Waukesha Christmas Parade Tragedy Has Been Fully Weaponize...d By The Right, Dallas QAnon Group Is Now Becoming Dangerous, Discrimination But Like We’re OK With It’ Leaves the Ahmaud Arbery Trial With One Black Juror, Alright alright alright - McConaughey Leads Hypothetical Governors Race, Streaming Check In - Will Seinfeld Become a Thing? and more! The Waukesha Christmas Parade Tragedy Has Been Fully Weaponized By The Right Neo-Nazis Are Using the Waukesha Attack for Propaganda Dallas QAnon Group Is Now Becoming Dangerous Discrimination But Like We’re OK With It’ Leaves the Ahmaud Arbery Trial With One Black Juror Alright alright alright - McConaughey Leads Hypothetical Governors Race Streaming Check In - Will Seinfeld Become a Thing? 5 challenges 'Seinfeld' faces in connecting with viewers on Netflix Listen: 420 Day FianceListen: Private Parts Unknown PodcastListen: Sofiya Alexandra - Father's Day Listen: Love Galaxy by Paul Epworth, Jay Electronica, Lil Silva Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
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Starting point is 00:01:52 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 212 episode 3 of their daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is the season finale we're gonna take a couple days off for old thanksgiving but you should know uh up top that this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it's wednesday november 24th 2021 24 days of mustache growth on miles of my faces mine still looks like an eighth grader trying to buy cigarettes though mine is interfering with my life in many ways uh it's uh you know children are being held
Starting point is 00:02:43 closer to their parents which is good it's like you know when i are being held closer to their parents, which is good. It's like, you know, when I enter a cafeteria, people are like, oh, Jesus. My wife doesn't really make eye contact with me. And the first 20 minutes of every Zoom meeting that I'm on is about my mustache. But otherwise, it's been fun. You know today is, right? What is it? National Taiwan On Day.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Hey! That's actually the first time that we've had one that I'm like, yeah, no, that's what that should be. Because it's the day everybody's going home for Thanksgiving and getting drunk with their high school friends. But you know what it is? You know what you're tying on? You're tying on an apron. That's what it's for. You get ready to start making your stuff on you're tying on an apron that's what it's for to get ready to start
Starting point is 00:03:26 making your stuff you're putting on an apron is that real is that what they're that's what it's for because it's basically nationally yeah pre-cooked day so the international day selection committee can't even get one right they can't even get it there's's also National Sardines Day. I don't know why. Of course. Of course it is. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Oh, here he comes. Watch out, Jack.
Starting point is 00:03:54 He'll chew your butt. Whoa, here Jaws comes. He's a man eater. That's courtesy of Christy. I'm Gucci Man. And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray miles gray and i shouldn't have told people i hated weird uh measurement derivations of my name but it's miles gray aka 1.6 kilometers gray 1 609 meters gray 63 360 inches gray, 5,280 feet gray, 1,760 yards gray, 320 rods gray, 80 chains gray, 8 furlong gray, and one-third of a league gray.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Okay? 80 chains gray is kind of... That's your... That goes hard. A chain is 22 yards, as recorded Johnny Davis. That's all from Johnny Davis. to johnny davis that's all from johnny davis and also for all my motherfucking space fanatics out there point zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero five two one five parsecs great damn there it is well fuck two chains we got 80 chains
Starting point is 00:04:57 on the on the podcast thank you doing terrible things to my neck Yeah Why what's going on Because I got 80 chains on Oh I just I'm always worried about I'm always worried about Your back health I'm always like I know I know
Starting point is 00:05:12 What's going on this time What's going on man This time it's the 80 chains The hypothetical chains Well Miles We are thrilled to be joined In our third seat By the very talented writer
Starting point is 00:05:21 And stand up comedian Whose stand up album Father's Day Was number one on iTunes She co-hosts the great Comedy travel seat by the very talented writer and stand-up comedian whose stand-up album father's day was number one on itunes she co-hosts the great comedy travel sex and love podcast private parts unknown and her advice on sex and travel has been featured in men's health the strategist betches.com anywhere men need help fingering she also co-hosts the great 90 day fiance podcast for 20 day fiance with some guy named miles please welcome the hilarious the talented sophia alexandra i am here on yeah my second favorite podcast after 420 Day Fiancé.
Starting point is 00:06:06 You know. Look at you. You know. Keep that low. How's it going over on 420 Day? What's new? It's going so good. You want to tell them?
Starting point is 00:06:22 Bro, we got merch now. It's sick. It's hand- good. You want to tell them? You want to tell them? Bro, we got merch now. We got merch. It's sick. It's hand-drawn by me and Miles. And then hand-screen printed by Zyte Gang favorite. By Caitlyn motherfucking Gil. Wow. So yeah, we collab-o Zyte Gang, you know, just comedy
Starting point is 00:06:40 collab with Caitlyn. Yeah. She's got, look, go to 420dayfiance.com and you can go get we got shirts and stuff support the show baby keep the lights on i'm gonna say three words for you heavy titty ghost yeah okay if that doesn't pique your interest heavy titty ghost then don't worry i can't help you you know yeah this isn't if it does check the shirt out because it does deliver it's not a clever name but yeah you know but other than that how what's what's new where oh yes you tell them you just got back you were just traveling a fucking all over the the world i did just travel and a lot of my answers to the questions have to do with my travel oh hey all right right. Well, I can't wait to get to those.
Starting point is 00:07:25 We're going to tell the people a few of the things we're talking about, and then we're going to get to know you a little bit better with those answers. We're going to talk about the Waukesha. Bo, come here. You want to say hi? Bo, my three-year-old is in the house. He just got a fresh new haircut. Oh.
Starting point is 00:07:43 That's a nice cut. Nice, nice, nice. Loving this. Hi. Loving this hair. Hi. This is the set. This is Beau's second appearance on the Daily Zeitgeist.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I think the first one was trending. So, shout out. Oh, look at him being bashed. All right. Baby bash. See you out there. Daddy, the smoke. What's up?
Starting point is 00:08:04 The smoke detector's on. The smoke detector's on. The smoke detector's on? It's beeping? All right, I'll change the batteries later. Bye. Thanks, buddy. So we've gone from a second-rate podcast to a weird, shady TikTok video that has a fire detector beeping every couple seconds in the background. We're talking about how international banking is flawed.
Starting point is 00:08:25 That's right. That's right. Oh, my God. I'm on so many meetings where people have had the smoke detector alarm going off for like weeks. Just the same. And I've given them, you know, tips on how to change it because we have all our batteries dying at the same time. One time that was going off because it was the middle of the night and I was sleeping. I thought it was the alarm.
Starting point is 00:08:50 And I called the alarm company and I was like, I can't turn it off. We'll respond to the code. And they're like, ma'am, it's not going off. And I'm like, I'm in the house. It's going off. I'm in the house. They were like, we don't know what to tell you. It's's going off i'm in the house we're like we don't know what to tell you it's not going off it took me at least 45 minutes to understand that that's what was happening okay this might be
Starting point is 00:09:17 on me this might be on me oh i should apologize to that alarm company. Nah, fuck them. All right, we're going to talk about the tragedy at the Waukesha Christmas Parade. We're talking about fentanyl fear-mongering continuing. We're talking about the Dallas QAnon group, which is now just taking over people's lives. It's kind of, I don't know, interesting, scary. It's getting, just trying to say, the rhetoric's definitely starting to change a little bit here. We're talking about Matthew McConaughey's hypothetical governor's race. He is in the lead.
Starting point is 00:09:55 So that's pretty wild. And we're also going to check in with streaming numbers. You know, Seinfeld made its debut on Netflix, and it's not really lighting up the charts. So I just want to ask, you know, what do we think is going on there? And also get some Miles Gray Seinfeld impressions. You know, it's a holiday, and I'm treating myself. All of that, plenty more.
Starting point is 00:10:18 But first, I legitimately did shoehorn that story in. Before we get to any of that shit though uh let me go cruise the high school real quick i'll be right back sophia uh what is something from your search history okay so i went to portugal and i was in luchboa which was the first time i knew that that is how you pronounce it. It's Lisbon, right? Yeah. And apparently... That's Lisbon, right? The statue in front of our hotel was of Luís de Camoche.
Starting point is 00:10:54 And I'm sorry if I butchered it. I'm doing my fucking best. But he is Portugal's Shakespeare. And I never heard his name because of course why would i in america you learn about like four authors right and like i don't know maybe one book per so i have never heard of him and they said that his influence on the language was so profound that they call it the language of kamush kamush kamush is that a flex imagine that is a flex yeah imagine is that how about you is that i feel like that's similar to shakespeare right didn't he invent like a bunch of fucking words like yeah but i'm just saying
Starting point is 00:11:40 maybe we should be saying shakespeare is likeotion. Yeah. The English language is commotion. Yes. Okay. All this commotion. For what? All this commotion. Much commotion about nothing. Coming to CBS.
Starting point is 00:11:57 So I went to Lisboa a number of years ago, and I really loved it. It was very beautiful. The language sounded silly to me. And I don't know if that's problematic to say, but it just sounded like there's like a bouncy, like bounciness to it. And also like some silly syllables that always come back. So you know what's hilarious to me about that and very insulting is that it sounds exactly like russian but without being at all similar so you constantly feel like you're being gaslit and you're like are you speaking russian and all the inflections are the same and the sounds repeat but it's not and then i think you're hearing like russian through a wall or something yes it was like it's like hearing russian but i suddenly no longer understand it sure sure it's
Starting point is 00:12:51 such a mind fuck and so i was talking to a portuguese person about it and they said i i said do you guys feel like that when you hear russian and he was like yes i always think i should understand too but i don't have no idea what any of y'all are talking about. So basically, you just insulted two cultures, Jack. Thank you so much. Yeah, efficient. Efficient insults. Always.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Yeah, it's just the sound of it is, to my dumb American ears, sounded fun. Hey, this is funny, huh? This is funny. Hey, y'all talk funny hey man you said he said peshka door louise what come on that's not how you say it that's louis man all right you want to put some stank on it let me get my sandwich without mustard what is something you think is overrated okay so I
Starting point is 00:13:51 ate so much fucking seafood when I was in Lisboa that I am literally I'm literally miles after he came back from Italy and I have to tell you that lobster is fucking overrated. And I've always thought this, but it was confirmed when I had so many different kinds of seafood.
Starting point is 00:14:14 What are we looking at? We're looking at even I mean, I would take a big ass prawn over that. I would take a crab over that. that like how are we not putting crab over lobster that's ridiculous interesting like a just a good solid like crab claw like claw meat dude i'll i'll eat a soft shell deep fried one that they have a japanese restaurant i will eat any kind snow snow. You pull out the meat. Whatever. A crab.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Snow king, blue, whatever. Give it. For you, it's more of a personal thing. You just hate crabs and want to eat them. Yeah, it's a vendetta. It's a delicious vendetta. I don't give a fuck if it's edible or not. Fucking hermit crabs.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Fucking suck that thing out of the shell. What was the most remarkable thing that you had when you're out there like a thing that you're like oh shit what the what have i been why have i not been doing this okay i'd never had the fish turbot do you pronounce the t is it turbo it was turbot it's turbo but yeah i've been pronouncing it wrong my entire life just then i'm glad we're learning together because I felt dumb and now I feel that we're all in it and turbot together. I've been saying robot all wrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:36 It's actually the, the B is silent. It's just root. Root. But yeah, it's, it's like a really flat bottom feeder fish and it has like almost no bones so it's like i mean there's no bones and it's all like fatty and delicious and when they grilled
Starting point is 00:15:55 it i was like what the fuck it was awesome okay that sounds really good and you know lobster we're never just halfway on lobster. We're either, it's either sea bugs that we feed to prisoners or it's the. Life's so rich and famous. Yeah, the richest. The thing is, it's mostly just like grilled and frequently over grilled. And then it's like your only options to dip it in butter. And like, that's fucking it.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Yeah. Yeah. Why are we not doing more? And it's sometimes they'll throw it in mac and cheese to just like make it like they did something when people do that i'm like okay we get it you got mashed we got lobsters in your mashed potato not it's fun but not necessary but you know you try is uh like whenever like i'll go to ralph's and sometimes they'll be like the like the langoustine tails are like super cheap they're like yeah man these shits are like four bucks like nobody's buying them i get them butter poach them then you have something that is like you know
Starting point is 00:16:50 if you do it right it's not overcooked and it's been poached in butter and you don't really need to dip that shit anymore and it's delicious more succulent for sure than grilling and then dipping 100 speaking of jerry jerry i just checked on your. And it's even more succulent than even I could have hoped. Poppy, please. The butter poaching, I'm assuming, means you just cook it. Melt a shitload of butter in like a pan. And then you can basically submerge it in full on butter. Slow, slow cooking. Yeah, very low.
Starting point is 00:17:20 And then you got to keep the heat low because you don't want it to start, you know. You don't want to start cooking the butter. Just keep it. You ruin the whole thing if you overheat it. That's the thing. You got to keep the heat low because you don't want it to start, you know, you don't want to start cooking the butter. Just keep it. You ruin the whole thing if you overheat it. That's the thing. You got to be patient. Patient. What is something you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:17:34 Okay, so I bought a book when I was out of town and I read it in one sitting. Even though I brought like eight books. Whoa. in one sitting even though i brought like eight books whoa but so this book is so fucking underrated because i want everyone to read it and talk to me about it it's called fashion victims the dangers of dress past and present by allison matthews david allison i'm gonna holler at you on twitter this book is good as hell it is illustrated and about all the different like poisonous ways that we have made clothing and the way that it used to kill people so in an interesting way it is both about history and labor politics and like um capitalism and fashion and crazy macabre deaths like ballerinas being set on fire by their outfits.
Starting point is 00:18:28 No one giving a flying fuck. Girls that made like green fake flowers getting poisoned by the green people making hats getting crazy from the hats. Yeah. But like for ever, people are like publishing articles and being like, yo, these people are dying. And they're like, nah, it's cool. These hats are cool though. Then there was a fashion where they killed whole ass birds and put them on hats. A whole ass taxidermied bird.
Starting point is 00:19:00 They literally killed so many that a bunch of those songbirds went extinct jesus we just wanted them on a fucking hat how insane i love it so and because what the was the mad hatters that's because they were using mercury right yeah mercury they love to throw some mercury on some shit this wasn't even that it's like tanning solution oh okay that that oh so not as like the mad as a because mad as a hatter was like that's like from the UK, right? No, this is all the same thing, but I think
Starting point is 00:19:32 the solutions changed. The story wasn't about the... Got it, got it. The solutions changed, but stayed poisonous. Peak mercury use. Oh, and then shoe polish, like people would polish their shoes, go out dancing all night, come home and die. Because the shoe polish seeped through their shoes when they were sweaty and poisoned them.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Yeah. It sounds like, you know, we need more deregulation. So good. And they have pictures of all the stuff that kills, that has killed you. And they're still testing all of these hats. And they're like, yep, that's still test positive for mercury like it's been so many fucking years and the hat will test so positive for mercury it's enough to kill like a ton of people and they're like yeah you should just wear it and that's it are the illustrations scattered throughout the book like when a subject comes up there's a picture
Starting point is 00:20:26 there or is it the like standard adult book thing where there's just like a center fold of a bunch of pictures no they're all throughout and see that's it's so perfect and all the references for all of them are in there it's like meticulously researched so when they're like this is the kind of green hat that killed people there'll be a picture of the green hat. And they'll also do a thing where like, this is an advertisement from that time that is like a cartoon that shows that kind of green hat or people dying from the green hat.
Starting point is 00:20:56 It's pretty fire. The ads like, those people are liars. Our green hats didn't kill no kids. 100% that is how ads were like slandering people who are a liar buy green hats and a lot of them bought blamed the people wearing the clothes they were like you're a dumb bitch and that's why you died from setting yourself on fire user oh so you know it was yeah you didn't know your shit was a soaked in kerosene to make it that nice texture.
Starting point is 00:21:25 That's on you. Yeah, exactly. But you're right, Miles. Like the mercury thing is a big part of it. I just want to say that there's so many more terrible things. Right, right. So many different levels. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:34 It wasn't just the mercury, though. And then Max would be like, come to bed. And I'm like, no, hold on. I have to read about these poisons real quick. I got to get back to these matters. Take that hat off. It's just a baseball hat. I said off! It's green! Well, it's pretty creepy because apparently a lot of the green dye is still toxic. Yeah. And there's a lot of stuff that you, when you're reading,
Starting point is 00:21:58 the author is like, and actually, this is still real dangerous. And we don't know where most of the cheap clothes that you buy come from or who made them or dyed them. So actually, you could be wearing something that poisons you. Have a great day. Wow. I just want to tag on an underrated of illustrations in adult books, like not just a bunch of pictures in the middle, but like give me some illustrations throughout the publishing industry. but like give me some illustrations throughout the the publishing industry you know they need to like find a happy medium between adult books and children's books i think that's why i read a lot of historical books because like cartographic image images and like certain portraits are in
Starting point is 00:22:38 there because they're like you got to understand like what you're looking at here like how close this city is to this city and i'm and i think part of me is like yes maps and pictures also i feel like don't you feel like it's a treat when you get to it yeah and i don't want the treats to just be all in a big ass pile randomly right i want it to be distributed so i'm getting a little treat all the time well otherwise and also sometimes it ruins it for you if they put all of the pictures earlier sometimes you'll see a picture and i'll be like oh it's her dead husband you're like he fucking died i didn't even get to that part yet you know what i'm saying yeah no that's very true also just on the mercury thing they liked mercury so much that the way that we
Starting point is 00:23:21 they liked it so much they liked it so much that they used to stick it up their ass when they had incontinence or rather constipation. And that's how we've been able to reconstruct Lewis and Clark's journey is because one of them was constipated and sticking mercury up their ass. So you just like go along and find the latrines that have mercury in them and that's where they stop. I'll do you one better. You shove it in your dick hole thank you yourself from syphilis so is that true yes and that is what they were doing and that is apparently one of the like myths or like theories for how they discovered that mercury helps the tanning process that like a dude was pissing in the tanks because urine like does does stuff and because he was
Starting point is 00:24:06 getting it up treated for murky for syphilis that his process like worked a lot better than other people's so they deduced it that's like one theory they're like damn yeah john's dirty dick is making good ass holy shit man have you tried reggie's new coats man this is so soft what's your secret man i got syphilis what yeah i'm slowly going insane okay uh thanks and it's it's probably just because like it looked cool right it looks like liquid so like it looks like the t-1000 from like turn there too so like they were just like well that shit must like be good for something let's keep it around and try it rub it on everything oh man all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about
Starting point is 00:24:56 the news i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary
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Starting point is 00:29:56 And he was recently arrested for allegedly running over somebody during a domestic dispute. And then he was released on a thousand dollar bail two days before the parade incident. And that whole thing of like, this guy got out two days before on a thousand dollars bail for like a violent thing already. They're saying now this has to be a whole issue that we need to now be looking at bail reform and bail reform is terrible and how there's no need to ever make bail more humane or not just a thing that, you know, makes it so rich people can get out of jail easy. And if you don't have money, then it could completely destroy your life. And, you know, I think the D.A. in Milwaukee, you know, his like sort of progressive policies have basically come under attack as a result of this or just looking at anything that has been slightly forward looking as being like we need to look into this da man because he's tied someone said he was tied to george soros like
Starting point is 00:30:48 in one post sure you know it's this kind of shit yeah of course it has to be you know let's also raise the specter of anti-semitism as well to tie this all in and saying that like we also look into like all of their progressive connections like what what's going on? Like, do we need to completely rethink all of this? The DA himself said that the bail amount was inappropriately low. Like he was like, I don't even know that there truly needs to be an investigation into why this person who was committing a violent crime had had such a low bail amount like that. I definitely see. But the thing is, this guy, Edwards, he wasn't released as part of like a program that, you know, this D.A. had put in place, which was to find alternatives to cash bail for nonviolent offenders. Right. This guy wasn't part of it. So this was some kind of oversight legitimately occurred because, yeah, like there maybe you want some safeguards to protect the general public.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Like in this case, it would have been something absolutely necessary. But then on the other side, you also have racists who are now using this to say this was a response to the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict. And this was anti-white domestic terrorism. And you have a lot of like accelerationists like on Telegram and stuff starting to put like, you know, swastikas. Remember, like with stuff that's saying like, remember Waukesha and like all this other shit to really try and like stoke those flames to, you know, create more racial violence. Those are the first people to be like, whoa, you just politicized the Oscars. Right. When someone like says the mildest thing that's their opinion
Starting point is 00:32:28 at an award show like well politics doesn't belong here and then this kind of thing happens and then you immediately like exploit it for your own fucking gain he had just committed a violent act two days ago with
Starting point is 00:32:44 with a car. Or he was on November 5th. And he was arrested and released. Like, that happened a little bit closer to the weekend. So, well before any Rittenhouse verdict and any of the bullshit that they're claiming. I mean, the police are saying that he had just left the scene of a domestic disturbance and was not acting. Fleeing. saying that he had just left the scene of a domestic disturbance and was not acting fleeing yeah on any terrorist influence or organization but was in some sort of disturbed haze yeah and yeah the cops even like no this we're not saying this was an accident like you know like some
Starting point is 00:33:15 elderly person lost control like no like this guy was trying to go he didn't give a fuck he plowed he mowed these people down but yeah to then say that this was connected to the other like that's they're like as we see it it was this person fleeing and just did whatever the fuck they were gonna do but yeah all that to say is this has now just created another you know inflection point for both you know people on capitol hill or in political commentary spheres and just violent extremists to try and create some more hatred and you know fucking anger when we can really use less yeah and i also think people are a little bit like the holidays are coming and i think instead of everyone just being like frustrated with the way that the government has handled shit so that most people are like poorer than ever heading into the holiday season or feeling
Starting point is 00:34:11 the pressure of that instead it's giving them like this weird little straw man to like focus on and it's like oh like why don't we talk about how angry you are about this instead of about the really like big issues and i also think like it's i try to google frequently whenever someone says something causes something because very frequently the timing is is a lie if you're being sold that it's like those famous you know all those interviews where they would ask like uh people who would say that obama was responsible for 9-11 right do you think he was when was he president but people people knew he was gonna be that's why they did it yeah yeah i think just shit like that you know when people are like oh actually you know he was not even and yeah that's what i think too these people aren't even focused
Starting point is 00:35:06 on like the tragedy of these five people that died many were in this group called the dancing grannies it's more just like i don't give a fuck about that go straight to the part where i can use this to keep bail like keep the cash bail system and make that like tron completely dial the time back on any progress that's made on that or if if you're a neo-Nazi accelerationist, you're saying, I don't care about those people that died. I'm going to use this to try and create more, like, you know, racial animus to hopefully direct that towards my worldview and get some people to, you know, jump on into the fray. Yeah. So, yeah, it's just a, you know, just a really fucked up incident. But this is, I think this is truly now, like, like as we're talking about, like backsliding democracies, like there's there's always going to be something that's going to happen that will always be.
Starting point is 00:35:54 People always find a way to, like, truly use it to justify whatever fascist ideas they have or to just halt progress completely. Yeah. Do you remember when that guy drove into the farmer's market in santa monica yeah that old guy right yeah yeah that wasn't necessarily was that him that person trying to do it intentionally i thought it was like he had lost control like in a panic just kept like driving that's what i think it was i think it was an old person panicking after it started happening and making it worse is that yeah yeah that's something that actually like people losing control of the car mistaking the brake for for the gas or the gas for the brake is something that
Starting point is 00:36:42 common is more common than people realize. It's what was happening with those like out of control Toyota cars where they couldn't figure out like why these things were accelerating out of control. The people thought they were stopping on the brake. They were stopping on the gas like that's what the computers inside the car show. It's just an honest mistake that can happen and that like people in a panic just sort of double down on the first mistake they're making and keep like stomping on on the gas thing against the brake especially like if you're in a new car it tends to happen more if you're in a new car and if you're smaller than the person who had been driving it before. Like that's when it tends to happen.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Yeah. The key that, yeah, he claimed he had matched the accelerator instead of the brake. Yeah. And this apparently like, I think this there in this article, they're talking about there was a,
Starting point is 00:37:36 there was footage of him in a previous accident. That was very similar. Yeah. And like that sort of kicked off this whole debate of like, do we like, we need to actually be careful about like the state some people are in when they get behind the wheel of a car but yeah one thing just you know the today the ahmaud arbery trial is going to jury deliberation so i mean it's just i'm again
Starting point is 00:38:00 this is this is a story that we've covered before, but the jury is 11 white people, one black juror. Prosecutors accused the defense of striking eight black jurors from being selected solely because of their race. The defense claimed the jurors had already formed strong opinions about the events that led to Arbery's death, which, again, was somebody being chased down and shot with a shotgun for their race. So that was disqualifying them, having heard of that happening in their community. But the judge found what he called intentional discrimination while reviewing the prosecutor's objection, but said he ultimately couldn't do anything since the defense put forth legitimate non-race- reasons for so it's it's just
Starting point is 00:38:47 another example where we're seeing in a courtroom a judge be like hey it's out of my hands here like just using these like little selective like you know close-up views of the law to just tilt things in the direction of a white defendant or three white defendants a judge is able to be like no there were legitimate uh you know sort of non-biased reasons that they gave it's because they're still in a courtroom people treat racism like it doesn't exist exactly like someone's talking about fucking narnia right they're like what you think happened oh i think this was racism they're like did you hear that this motherfucker believe in narnia get him the fuck out i mean really folks yeah and this is a trial that fucking completely hinges on racism right like and yeah to be able to just say that
Starting point is 00:39:34 they're if they've already they already came to their very very biased conclusion based on their terribly misinformed worldview right be terrible to have them here. We're looking for people who are so ignorant, they don't know what's going on. And then we can hopefully, you know, nudge them in a direction over the course of the trial. The closing arguments, the defense commented on Arbery's long, dirty toenails. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:57 He was wearing sneakers at the time of the crime. That, you know, that's not the point, though. The point is that this is the South and police in this part of the country were invented to, you know, as slave patrol. And they're trying to, like, use these this imagery to, like, appeal to the biases of a racial slur after murdering Maude Arbery, according to one of his fellow defendants. Not like, according to one of his fellow defendants. The theft they claim they suspected him for was later found to be committed by a white couple. They chased him in a pickup truck, pulled a gun on him, and are claiming the murder was self-defense.
Starting point is 00:40:41 So, that's... The Rittenhouse defense. And people are like, it's a fucking it's a it's a coin toss it's like how how how you chase someone in a truck and then when you hopped out with guns and they were unarmed that you defended yourself with like lethal but again that's what because unfortunately you say things like this seemed like you know to anyone just looking at it you're like this looks like people chasing someone down and killing them like even if i don't know the context that's what this looks like
Starting point is 00:41:09 yeah but you know you have you have the slightest bit of uh ability to recognize a situation like that is having some kind of racial animus then you're the problem yeah and let's check in with the dallas q anon group real quick. So, you know, they went down to Dallas for Trump's coronation, which we all remember was a great event. It was great, wasn't it? Yeah. The Rolling Stones concert.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Actually, it never happened, but people are staying there. And despite the predictions of Michael Brian Protzman, who he was the guy who reported from the Rolling Stones concert that Prince was on drums. So that despite everything he said turning out to be nonsense, people are doubling down on waiting for his predictions to become reality. And family members of the people who went down there are very concerned. Yeah, there's a Vice article where they're people are straight up being like, yo, my sister's completely lost it. Like she's not, she's left her kids behind.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Or other people like, you know, this one person said, like requesting anonymity, said, quote, I'm very worried about her safety. We don't know if she's given him any money, meaning Michael Brian Protzman, because a lot of people have apparently been just handing over cash to him. But her husband is about to cancel her cards. She's blowing through their money fast. There's another one where this, like I said, this woman's sister, she said, this woman's sister so far handed about $200,000 to the group and is being forced to drink hydrogen peroxide solution and take, quote, bio pellets to ward off COVID-19. Her phone calls and messages are also being monitored. She left her children
Starting point is 00:42:45 for this and doesn't even care. She's missing birthdays and holidays for this. She truly believes this is all real and we are all the crazy ones for trying to get her to come home, but she won't. And a lot of people are like, we don't believe she'll ever come back and we're now mourning her. So, this is, you know, it's always had this very cult-like exterior
Starting point is 00:43:01 and now you're starting to hear like, oh wow, they're isolating people. Like, they're monitoring your calls calls. They're like, there's also there's some infrastructure in place to maybe keep people in, you know, for this very specific group of Q followers, you know, sort of in line or in check. And the other thing is, like people have noticed in some of these telegram channels, there, there was like talk from members of, you know, in sort of debating like what's going to happen, what's the truth, like is JFK actually alive or dead? And is Trump really the president? Some people were saying, like using the words that we need to experience a physical death in order to learn the ultimate truth of all of this. And another post in a different Telegram
Starting point is 00:43:43 channel was like giving people directions to the site where David Koresh had his deadly standoff with the feds in Waco and people were like what the fuck why are people now talking about experiencing physical death why is this like there's more Waco shit coming I mean that's always kind of been part of it
Starting point is 00:44:00 but a lot of extremist researchers are like the fact that people are now uttering things like we must experience a physical death to arrive to the truth. They're really kind of, you know, that's been sort of sending it, sounding off alarm bells. And it's a lot, it's very similar to that guy, Matthew Coleman, who, you know, murdered his children, who was also had this sort of rhetorical shift from their QAnon beliefs to this sort of other thing. And, you know, the FBI in Dallas said they haven't commented on whether or not they're looking into it. And then the Dallas police are like, no, this group is not something we're concerned with at the moment, according to them.
Starting point is 00:44:38 I feel like there's such a connection between the like all of the stories, you know, between all of the stories, you know? Because the stoking of the hate to make people more radicalized and more fringe also leads to these cult-like things. Because the more entrenched you are in the fact that everybody else doesn't see the truth, quote-unquote, the more easily you will be prey to all kinds of ideology yeah i mean
Starting point is 00:45:07 it's all the same kind of cult-like thinking yeah it really seems that there's like a a breaking point that people are coming to and yeah the the caroline or bueno was like these are basically the exact same spiritual religious teachings that the guy in california was getting into just before he brutally murdered his two young children like she's an expert on these like she pays attention and like understands the various theologies and yeah she's like this is this is the thing yeah but it's okay if dallas police say it's not a big deal like like, it seems like they're pretty good at,
Starting point is 00:45:46 you know, gauging national threats to national security and just making sure they have it locked down. So I think we should be good. Those funny folks down in Dealey Plaza,
Starting point is 00:45:56 I mean, they're nothing. They're just in the way, if anything. Yeah. Just dropping their trucks. Once again, failing to take a threat in Dealey Plaza
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Starting point is 00:50:33 And so people are theoretically putting out some polls to be like, if this guy ran. We love ourselves a hot, famous governor. Hell yeah. You know it. Who cares about his policies. Let me see that ass. Yeah. Work for democracy.
Starting point is 00:50:52 He's not going to twerk though. He won't twerk. That's where he draws the line. Yeah. He'll just play the bongos naked. Yeah, exactly. They love bongos. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I would love that. Beto O'Rourke, announced he's like yo i'm getting in the ring and people are like okay i was just born to run man yeah what was the thing on the cover of vanity fair i was just gotta be in it man i was just born for this that one he's like in the truck yeah like that that's the dog yeah the failed vanity fair spread cosplaying as a real american folksy texan guy but yeah there's some you know they said let's do some hypothetical head-to-heads um first what if beto o'rourke and matthew mcconaughey went head-to-head who wins 49 49 to matt 27 to Beto. Then they said, okay, so if he advances that round, what if it's the incumbent governor, Greg Abbott,
Starting point is 00:51:50 running against the insurgent, Matthew McConaughey, in that hypothetical runoff based on this poll. And again, it's a very loose poll. I don't even know how they did it. But Abbott gets 35% of the vote. Matthew McConaughey gets 43% of the vote. He would be eight points ahead. All right. All right. All right. And that's just a very that's a snapshot literally right now of probably people that just called on the phone and who knows how serious they were. But it is interesting to see that it. But oh, but like when they put all three in a three way race. But obviously that wouldn't happen because that's not how elections work. No, tell me more about this hot three-way race. Well, I mean, it could be like a jungle primary or something like that, but
Starting point is 00:52:31 in this straightforward race, in that instance, Abbott gets a plurality because they would split the vote between Beto and Matt. But it also showed, which is interesting because you're also like, oh, but it looks like some people would go to Matt though if it came down to Matt and Abbott. But I... This is just like such a... The threesome's always better when you split the vote.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Dang. Yeah, I totally know what you mean, but why don't you explain it to the people? Like, I have tons of experience on threesomes, obviously. Yeah, I know how to rock the vote Jack your mustache says that it has had
Starting point is 00:53:11 a ton of three waves that mustache says ripping in a tan it does add some character to my face that is completely unearned it looks jizz soaked it could be
Starting point is 00:53:23 it could be jizz soaked wait does it look jizz soaked right It could be. It could be jizz soaked. Wait, does it look jizz soaked right now? I thought I cleaned it up. That's coffee mate, okay? It's coffee mate. It's coffee mate, asshole. I drink it straight out of the bottle. I want to be in it, man.
Starting point is 00:53:37 I'm just born to be in it. That was the quote on the cover of Vanity Fair that I... Tell me how that's not about a threesome and wanting to be in it. Oh, you're just outside of an orgy room? Exactly. You're like, hey, if you're not participating, no staring. Okay. So as stupid as this is,
Starting point is 00:53:56 that he would possibly run, I would probably prefer him over Abbott, right? Abbott is a committed Nazi. You kind of have to abbott's kind of the worst it's just another it's like another american election special you want the piece of shit or the person you're like i'd rather not those are your two options right so yeah i mean you know we've talked about some of the policies that he's articulated in the past.
Starting point is 00:54:27 And, you know, he's he's very like he's like, yeah, man, like radical centrist. Got to have your got to have your abortions. You know, I definitely believe that. Got to get got to get a bobo if you want one. And have your kids. I mean, if they want to get vaccinated, I have to wait on that. That's where he starts getting a little, you know, woo woo LA. Yeah. Alright. Well,
Starting point is 00:54:51 we're on the edge of our seat. I mean, again, stranger things have happened. I mean, Arnold Schwarzenegger was our literal fucking governor. What about the fucking wrestler, Jesse fucking Ventura? Shit happens. He was the first one.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Americans love a fucking nonsensical celebrity situation. We don't care what context it's in. We're like, George Foreman sells grills? We're in. We love it. We don't care what the crossover is. Yeah. It almost feels like McConaughey's too high profile to run
Starting point is 00:55:26 for governor you know what i mean it's like you could still be in movies like the mother people like yeah i'm not to say schwartz i mean schwarzenegger was very at his prime but like in this day and age of celebrities running i feel like we need to go like two levels below right to see like you know i don't know who that person would be but yeah like little flip i wanted some i want it to be an all little ticket flip yachty let's get it popping nas x you know i mean has a celebrity who's not kind of right leaning ever won the it seems like they're very successful on the right you got your your Reagans, your Ronalds Reagan, your Ventura, your Schwarzenegger.
Starting point is 00:56:09 But who is centrist and has won? Neocons. I feel like Neocons reject this idea because, or not Neocons, Neolibs reject this idea because they're all straight A students like we talked about. So they want to believe that, come ons, reject this idea because they're all straight-A students like we talked about, so they want to believe that, come on, man, this is serious business. You have to study economics.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Stick to the pot. Right, yeah. I just feel like this won't go as well, but the fact that he appeals to the right as well might make it work. Right. And I mean, dude, Fred Thompson was also an actor. Al Franken.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Also, yeah. Franken. There it is. Franken's the only lefty. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Franken is the answer.
Starting point is 00:56:54 All right. So let's do a quick streaming check-in. Squid Game still continues to dominate on the originals charts. Probably had a little bit of a Chrissy Teigen boost, am I right? A little Teezy? Oh, yeah. Sick-ass party. I wish I was there.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Damn, that shit looked tight. Also, Jesse Ventura, I think, was like Green Party or something. He's not fully Republic, because he's always like, 9-11 was done by goblins. You know, and you're like, okay, full like,
Starting point is 00:57:27 yeah. I feel like maybe libertarian or am I? Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I just associate him with that. Green party. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:57:37 Okay. He was independence party from 2000, 2003 reform party from 98 to 2000. He was an independent before 98. And then from 2003 to 2020. I think all that to say opportunistic weirdo. Right. Was he leftist?
Starting point is 00:57:52 Am I just like because I was such a fucking like just ate everything that the mainstream media told me? Like, is that why I think he was? I don't ever remember him being portrayed as lefty. Right. Not really. But I mean, he I think maybe because he would be like the Bush administration is out of control. And you're like, oh, OK. I would be even more efficient.
Starting point is 00:58:18 You're like, oh, it's contextual. I guess you're right. There's way crazier people now. I mean, he's no like cinema or something. No guess you're right. There's way crazier people now. I mean, he's no cinema or something. No, no, no. But I mean, for the most part, he said his quote was like, George W. Bush was the worst president of my lifetime.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Yeah. So I was like, well, that's true. That's facts. Yeah, I guess so. I mean, to that point. Yeah. And then when Pierce Morgan asked him about 9-11, he said, my theory of 9-11 is that we certainly at the best, we knew what was going to happen. They allowed it to happen to further their agenda in the Middle East and to go to these wars.
Starting point is 00:58:55 All right. That's not the very least, but that's a plausible possibility, I guess. Yeah. But I know, again, I'm sure Zeitgang will tell us, and he's like, no, check out this hot take on Breonna Taylor. And you're like, oh. Uh-oh. I don. Yeah. But I know, again, I'm sure Zeitgang will tell us and he's like, no, check out this hot take on Breonna Taylor. And you're like, oh, I don't know. But all I have to say, I don't know enough and I don't care enough. So Netflix is monitoring streaming these days and they're telling us, you know, what people are actually watching. Netflix dominating the originals. dominating the originals uh it's basically all netflix except for only murders in the building and ted lasso everything else in the top 10 is netflix but uh on the acquired front acquired
Starting point is 00:59:36 which is like you know shows that they brought over that were not original programming they are 100 of the top 10 but they also like so shameless is number one cocomelon number two in the dark number three i wasn't even like that didn't jog anything for me oh yeah it's the blind woman got it okay and seinfeld's at number four which seineld like just dropped. I think they were and the money they spent on that. They were expecting that to be like a friends slash The Office style like phenomenon. I think they forget that those are escapism shows and that is not. Oh, Seinfeld's like too real. Seinfeld is.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Yeah. Seinfeld is like the world is terrible and people are selfish. And like, let's laugh at it. People are not ready for that. Right. They're like, we want hugs. What's a show that's hugs? Oh, Ted Lasso?
Starting point is 01:00:35 Thank you. I want to live in New York and jobs don't matter. Friends. Yeah, exactly. I just want to worry about whether Ross and Rachel are going to end up together. I don't want to, you know, worry about whether I see a lot of these selfish tendencies in myself. I mean, I think hilarious, but that's why I think Curb is like its own little world because not everybody likes that if it makes you like upset and nervous when that kind of stuff happens then it's not the show for you whereas friends is so much more and the office so much more easily like calming yeah and i feel like comfort food with with seinfeld there's more it was like more influential first of all like got it was it was more original at the time that it came out
Starting point is 01:01:26 and then now like i feel like it's influenced first of all obviously curb is like just uh a spiritual successor that like does a lot of the things seinfeld did but like in a more pure form um but also i just feel like it was like seinfeld was probably more influential on like the comedy writers of the world uh than like friends or the office and so now like in the same way that like belushi was great and super original but never really like translated to later generations because he was like so influential on like farley and like a lot of those people that like i feel like people didn't really get it as much like i wonder if seinfeld has more thoroughly like infiltrated the culture to the point that now it feels like an earlier version of something that we've already seen like
Starting point is 01:02:18 executed super well with like arrested development and, shows like that, that are uber despicable people. But like, that's the, that's the whole joke. Hmm. I like that theory. I, I, there, there's something, I don't know. I think, yeah. Like your point about Seinfeld being like a, like a comedy, like for comedy people, people like it's pretty, they're like,
Starting point is 01:02:43 yo, there's like, there's these Seinfeldeld things are like my favorite pieces of comedy or whatever. And you understand like so many writers do talk about the way Seinfeld was written and like the like their whole writing style, especially of like making scenes of like stuffing the sausage, as they called it, of like just taking the dumbest premise and just cramming as much drama into the stupidest nothing you can do to make that just explode with overemphasis and like that was sort of like the engine of it and it's also very like improv derived like it's pretty much every episode is a herald because like which is like that the long form i'm so sorry everyone long form hey it's been a minute seven at ucb yeah but you know it's where they said the tent poles fought far apart. And then in the end, they come together in ways that are unexpected. So, you know, that's that was like a classic thing. The thing that they had mentioned about the one thing is going to come back always at the end and be the thing that fucks this other thing up.
Starting point is 01:03:38 And I think the way that they did that consistently every episode was like pretty remarkable remarkable yeah and if you're aspiring right i think for you know kids that grew up in the 90s you're like look back damn like this is really like you people want to emulate that and i feel like maybe because of that influence like you're saying it's it's coming back around again yeah for like you know just people to recapture their love of it or younger people being like oh it's just chooky shit all the old people talking about yeah seinfeld and then it's like what are you doing all right this is my final point seinfeld himself not i don't know man going in the same direction many older comics who like don't understand why people don't know, man. Going in the same direction many older comics who don't understand why people don't like them anymore.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Right. Like old ass, old man takes. Right. Very specific to the 90s with just his style and sexual politics. A lot of bitching about why people don't want to hear about serial again. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:42 And, you know, like this NPR article about like why it might not hit quite as hard as friends makes the point about michael richards which obviously like his you know racist greed on stage makes his performance harder to enjoy but i also think like a i think we're giving america way too much credit are you fucking kidding sure yeah yeah that's what's ruining it for people oh no he was racist one time yeah okay Woody Allen and shit gets to make movies Mel Gibson out here saying I hope you get raped by a bunch of Edwards Louie and uh Louie and Dave Chappelle's got a Grammy nomination. Hey. You can't touch me. Yeah. Don't cancel me.
Starting point is 01:05:33 That's my new phone ringer. Don't cancel me. You can't cancel me. The show is already, we didn't cancel it. We decided to end it on our own. I've never been canceled. He's, yeah. Someone recently was was talking his name was in the headlines again because another comedy is like i don't care for him much because of his proclivity for younger women back in the day yeah he dated a uh dated
Starting point is 01:05:58 in quotes that's what it was called at the time a high school student. That's not statutory rape. Yeah, it was. He publicly dated a high school student. Yeah. And they were like, look how fun he's picking up his girlfriend at her school or whatever. Yeah. Bring her to a Knicks game. He's grooming a minor before everyone's eyes. But because he has like a kind of a mullet, everyone's cool.
Starting point is 01:06:24 And then everyone was like, well, it makes sense. She has big titties. I was like, do you hear yourself? Right. Yeah. What do you mean? Like my hearing? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:34 She has big titties. I'm sorry. Did you not hear me? Those titties say she's an adult. Oh, my God. Yeah. Well, Seinfeld, he's laughing on his gigantic piles of cash. Yeah. And I think Steve Bannon, too, that we we get Steve Bannon because of Seinfeld also.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Oh, yeah. What was that story again? He was the publisher. Yeah. Like one of the production companies that like sold the rights to it. He had a stake in it. So he got a piece of like this huge payout. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Or like the like when it went to syndication like mass syndication there was like some it's so he became very wealthy from his associate from his failed hollywood career yeah and that gave him a lot of money and who knows where we'd be if that didn't happen but either way america is gonna america with or without steve bannon yeah as bad as the michael richards take that like people aren't watching it because of the the racism npr also has the take that it's set in a shockingly white new york city and that's why people aren't enjoying it because friends i know they're like yeah have you seen friends aisha tyler holds down that entire show for the entirety of time as the only black person yeah simpler times yeah because like what did what's the did he ever date a person of color
Starting point is 01:07:55 woman of color on this show i don't think so i don't think so no jerry, he would never. He would never. Do you remember there's that one episode where Elaine thinks that the guy she's dating is a person of color and she just doesn't know what. And that guy thinks she is too. And then when they both find out that they're white, they're very
Starting point is 01:08:19 disappointed and they're like, what do you want to do? And he goes, alright, I don't know. Let's go to the Gap. Which is the only time they address the race thing. The one that ages so well, the Cigar Store Indian episode. Oh, there you go. Yeah. Great.
Starting point is 01:08:37 And then I'm trying to think of anything else that made super. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Like there's plenty of. What. There's plenty of problematic stuff. What about all the transphobic stuff? Friends was like... Oh, yeah. Was it Chandler's mom? Chandler's mom.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Yeah, it's like, he's a cross-dresser. And you're like... And he hated his mom. I remember... It's so funny you say that because... Well, the punchlines were always like, I'm fucked up, and the reason I can't have intimacy
Starting point is 01:09:03 is it turns out my dad was fucking my piano teacher and he's a girl that was like yeah right uh brought to you by the same people who wrote the cheers theme song that has that weird line in it yeah the wait what line there's like and you're like what is it there's a line it's it? It's the long version. Like the verse that wasn't on the TV show. Okay. I was like, have I missed something from the everybody knows your name part? Yeah, there was a. If you're white. That's the part they cut.
Starting point is 01:09:40 It's, where is it? It's like something like a woman being a man or something like that. And that being like a point of stress. That's why I got to go to cheers with friends. I just didn't watch it for the reasons. I was like, well, I don't see myself in this show.
Starting point is 01:09:54 So I'm going to keep watching Wayne's brothers or Jamie Foxx show or something like that. I remember like her majesty. She'd be like, when, you know, when we were first dating, she's like,
Starting point is 01:10:02 Oh, you don't watch friends. I'm like, nah. And she, she was watching in the background once. And I came in. It was one of those episodes where Kathleen Turner is playing Chandler's mom. And I was like, what's going on?
Starting point is 01:10:13 And then I was just watching them just talk about it. And I'm like, yo, this is fucked up. Like, what is this? Like, yeah, this doesn't age well at all. And I'm like, wow. Okay. But look, all shows have. I mean, wow. Okay. Okay. But look, all shows have,
Starting point is 01:10:26 I mean, I, it's wild to watch a lot of stuff. I, I recently started watching things that were sort of like formative for me, like sitcoms, just to kind of like understand like how much, I can't believe how much the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air like formed my entire,
Starting point is 01:10:38 like, like mental scape. Same. But there's also like ones with like, like you also like watch Jamieie foxx show and you're like okay bro like you are you are not about consent at all oh yeah it's just a fucking punchline the whole time and you're like just start watching these things you're like wow these were very subtle things that we were taking in but also we were so brainwashed that entire time
Starting point is 01:11:01 for on the jamie foxx show we were cheering for jamie fox who just would not leave this fucking poor woman alone and like just ruined her life by sexually harassing her at work constantly but then but then they're like no and then you were down and it works out hey hey fellas you get it wear them down down. Oh, that's the word. Your husband wants to be a girl. That's the one. Yeah. It's roll out of bed.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Mr. Coffee's dead. The morning's looking bright. Andrew Shrank ran off to Europe and didn't even write. And your husband wants to be a girl. It doesn't even, like, really work in the thing. Yeah, it doesn't even make sense. It just sounds like the writer was trying to work out a personal problem right yeah yeah yeah well on to write on friends sophia such a pleasure having you as always where can people find you follow you all
Starting point is 01:11:57 that good stuff thank you so much for having me i love you guys and you can find me at TheSophia on Twitter and Instagram. S-O-F-I-Y-A. You can listen to my and Miles' podcast. Go to 420dayfiancé.com. And you can also listen to Private Parts Unknown, my podcast with Courtney Kosak about love and sex around the world. And get my album Father's Day. And happy holidays. Happy Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 01:12:33 Y'all doing you guys doing family stuff? What's up? We're cooking for like 30 people. What? Damn. What? Yeah, I'm going to New York. I can't wait to see the uh dmx documentary from bill simmons that's who i want to hear they've got like he's the most famous uh dmx
Starting point is 01:12:54 fan how would you oh that's right i forgot he was in the rough riders yeah yeah yeah he's got like this whole hbo documentary like sweet called music box and one of them's a DMX documentary, which... I don't know if you knew this, but the Rough Riders anthem dedicated to him. Dedicated to Bill Simmons. Love my bitches, but where's my Simmons? Okay, G.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Alright, X, tell me. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes. I have a couple favorites. I like this one by at JT house 37. I don't have an agent, but there is a small Fox that lives in the woods next to my house who would, I think,
Starting point is 01:13:40 given the opportunity champion my work. And then there's this one by future mensa and it's the season to go home and remember why you left your family for a life of literature and marijuana that's right i felt that and then finally this one by megan gailey there are haircuts that only exist in Indianapolis and nowhere else on earth. Oh, man. Shout out to Megan. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:14:14 Find me on Twitter and on Instagram at Miles of Gray. And again, you heard Sophia tell it. Check out 420 Day Fiance. Check out 420dayfiance.com and consider supporting our show by buying some merchandise. That's pretty. Look, we hand designed this shit. Kaylin Gill on the production. And I know Zyte Gang comes through for guaranteed shirts. So, you know, it's the same family.
Starting point is 01:14:40 So come by. Same fam. And Miles drew the sickest heavy titty ghost you've ever seen oh my god yeah it was it what did it come from when we were talking about episode with angela got the breast reduction yeah yeah the character this one cast member had a breast reduction and her husband was like what am i gonna do and we're like oh there's gonna be a heavy titty ghost out there anyway all that to say my favorite her ink ability score went down that's the whole thing people don't see it doesn't this is what y'all gonna come this is what you're gonna come for
Starting point is 01:15:09 the nonsense but yes some tweets that i like first one actually from at mfc erickson hey gang in here i saw your tweet my man said we demand to have names that slightly change periodically as we grow into adults, like Pokemon. Because I was really curious to see what my final form name would be. That's what Puff Daddy's been doing for years. That's a great idea. It's for celebrities. People have posted
Starting point is 01:15:38 a meme of how you could be like, your name is like Robert, but then you're Robbie, then Robbie, or maybe Bob. And then you die as Rob. And then another one is from atfirebeats, B-E-E-T-S.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Who's your favorite beetle? Me, panicking. Gregor Samsa. That's good. That joke is Kafka-esque. Gregor Samsa. That's good. That joke is Kafka-esque. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:16:12 All right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien and nowhere else. No, that's not true. I'm also on Instagram, but I'm private. But I've approved literally everybody who's asked to follow me.
Starting point is 01:16:23 You're private because you post so many thirst traps. That's true. People don't even know. They got to know. It's all ass on his fucking, all ass and dong on his IG you guys got to follow. Ass and dong, O'Brien. Ariana Lenarski tweeted, I think we learn about planets too young.
Starting point is 01:16:41 They should keep it from us until we're like 16. Then be like, guess the fuck what? I love that tweet so much. Oh, I like that. Oh, Andrew Nadeau tweeted a woman once casually said nice haircut to me 12 years ago. And that's been my haircut ever since.
Starting point is 01:17:01 The power, the power, the power of being alone and someone, someone you fancy giving you a compliment. I remember one time my face was so bad. Like, when I was younger, even patchier. And someone was like, no, I think it's cool. Like, it kind of makes me wonder, like, what's up with them? And I'm like, oh, cool.
Starting point is 01:17:20 And then subsequent people were like, what's, are you okay? What's wrong? Are you cosplaying as, like, like a car like a boat crash early stages gregor samson yeah you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and even a website daily zeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode.
Starting point is 01:17:48 That shit's also in the show description. Shorty script. And we also like to link off to a song that we think you're going to enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy?
Starting point is 01:17:58 This is a track called Love Galaxy. And look, I feel like it's time. I feel like now after Ellen Scanlon told us that Wednesday before Thanksgiving is like the big pot, like the real big pot holiday. Listen to this track, Love Galaxy, because it's going to make you feel good, first of all.
Starting point is 01:18:14 So if you, you know, maybe have a turbulent relationship with your family, get in the zone with this track. But more than that, it's the people on this track, Lil Silva, Jay Electronica and Paul Epworth. You know, Paul Epworth is a really amazing producer. You might know him from stuff he's done with Adele, you know, famously. Or a remix that he's done with CeeLo Green of Nobody's Gonna Love You, right? I've never heard of any of these people. Oh, well, you got it. Is that A and then like Del, like Del Kirk?
Starting point is 01:18:43 Yeah, exactly. Adele. Yeah, okay. Just one Dell. And yeah, so check this track out. It's just like really great production, really great vocals, and just rich sonic scape for your ears. Zeke.
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