The Daily Zeitgeist - DamiTrend Lillard 9/27: Damian Lillard, Trump, Amazon, Streaming Innovation Alliance, California Gun Tax

Episode Date: September 27, 2023

In this edition of DamiTrend Lillard, Jack and Miles discuss the Damian Lillard trade, Trump being found liable for fraud in NY, Amazon getting sued by the FTC for monopolistic practices, the new Streaming Innovation Alliance and how they're gonna ruin our lives going forward, California enacting a gun and ammo tax,See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to this episode of at starting point guard for the milwaukee bucks is Damien Trend Lillard! Wow. Shouts to my Bucs fans. Man. I know in the text thread we were talking about this Damien Lillard trade and I said I'm getting a Bucs jersey because I just want to feel the excitement

that Bucs fans have right now. I'm excited. This is a very fun outcome. Especially like we had the heat in mind for them for a long time. It seemed like the Celtics could have gotten involved, which was a fright. This is why this is such a load off is that the team that I

don't like did not get Damian Lillard. And yeah, the Suns got stronger who are a team I will be rooting for this year I always root for the best players in the league and Giannis now has like a much more exciting team it's tough

they lost a really good guard in Drew Holiday but we shall see I mean we're reading this thing we're like they won't do it because the chemistry it's like well maybe I don like they won't do it because of the chemistry. It's like, well, maybe I don't know, you might do it for Damien Lillard. You might try that out.

Or somebody who is a generational just baller. I will say this is yet more confirmation. I was having this thought last night. I was watching a 30 for 30 documentary from the year 2013 about the,

uh, no moss, the Roberto Duran, uh, sugar Ray Leonard documentary. You know, I'm going to see that one. It's interviewing all these sports writers from the time and like to like

still today. And they're like, he's a coward. What a loop. Like nobody could figure out why he quit in the middle. And I was just like, he's a coward. What a, like, nobody can figure out why he quit in the middle of. And I was just like, man, sports writers really are the lowest form of humanity in a lot of cases. Like these like old white guys are here being like Roberto Duran disgraced himself as a man. And he's disgusting.

He ran away with them. And still to this day, just like talking. He came back from that and went on to win multiple titles. And they were still like, he still has to answer for this. But again, with the Damian Lillard trade, sports writers know nothing. Nobody was saying the Bucs. They threw out every name in the NBA saying the Bucs. They were all... They threw out every name in the NBA

except the Bucs. Y'all blew it. You're bad at your job. Your job basically might as well not exist. You might as well just come on Matt Boosties. Just come on Matt Boosties where we have a decidedly anti- sports journalism.

But we don't slag them off like we do on this show. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, we have to go to one. We have them on to go, where are you on that one, dipshit? We should just go line by line through their columns, everything they got wrong. Like that Bucs writer who said three major reasons

why the Bucs would never trade for Damien Willard. Damian Lillard. He threw them off their scent. All right. That is the biggest news obviously happening right now is that Damian Lillard was traded. But like for those who aren't NBA fans, Damian Lillard is probably the coolest person in the NBA. Like him and Jimmy Butler, like he was supposed to be traded to the Heat. And they were like, that team would be too cool with Damian Lillard and Jimmy Butler on it. And therefore they sent him to the team of the best player in the league. Uh, and also the most lovable superstar in the league, Giannis Antetokounmpo.

So exciting times, I guess in like one a to that news is that Donald Trump was found liable for fraud. Yeah, yeah, whatever, whatever. A New York judge has said he's liable for $250 million civil case brought by the state, alleging that he engaged in a longtime bait and switch scheme to misrepresent his assets for tax purposes, while also inflating their value in order to obtain favorable loan terms. So he would, in one set of papers, be like, yeah, this place is this big and also this valuable. And then at the same time, to avoid paying taxes, would say it is a different size and

worth a different amount of money at the same time. Like at the same damn time. Yeah. Just openly lying, uh, openly making up wealth. Like the judge is like, no,

he just like made up his fortune. There was a, there was one where like he completely overvalued his fucking Trump tower, like apartment that he lives in. He didn't even say the right size. Yeah, by ridiculous orders of magnitude to the point where the judge was like, there's no way

I can believe this is anything but fraud concerning you come from real estate. So how could you fucking blow it like that? Like, no, no, no. It's supposed to be your thing, man. Like, the case, he doesn't seem to, his legal strategy just seems to be like be annoying as fuck as for as long as possible until people are too annoyed to keep going but that generally

doesn't work when you're being sued by the state and this judge was basically like he previously found some of trump's legal team's arguments so stupid he literally thought it was a joke um such as the argument that the case should be dismissed because hey no one was harmed by trump's fraud i'm sorry hey did anybody get hurt hey we're good here right that's not how that goes but that's why it's wild too like the fucking judge sanctioned the fucking lawyers because they're like dude this is like i told you about these fucking spurious arguments and you still kept coming back with it like i have no choice but to they tried the no harm no foul line of argument like yeah come on are you bleeding like that that a bully is after he like punches you on

the shoulder uh what are you bleeding and then not only did they try that once and then they're like oh right right this is a court of law and not a playground they tried it once the judge was like stop it no that is i thought that was a joke when you brought it up and then they did it so often that the judge likened the defense to the time loop in the film groundhog day that is a direct quote. That just shows you the fucking caliber of lawyer that he can get now. You can't even get the janky ones anymore who have some semblance of a career.

Now it's people who are in there being like, I'm honestly at his appeal. I would be surprised if one of his lawyers at the appeal just didn't say, well, that's just your opinion, man yeah so throw the case out no further answers your honor answers your honor um exactly but it's a it's a fucking summary judgment yeah it wasn't even that's fucking again when when it's like that it seemed like bro i don't even a jury doesn't need to fucking hear this that's how fucking out of control this whole shit is yeah so i think what is it to tuesday is when the trial

will happen and that's when we will begin to see what the fate is of all the companies and things like that and all that but again it's going to get dragged on because there's going to be appeals and shit like that but he cannot uh practice any kind of business or his sons in the state of New York right now. Yeah. According to the ruling, which allows the civil trial to begin next week, like he said, but this ruling says that he lied to banks and insurers by both overvaluing and undervaluing his assets. So it's just like, that's the, that's the wild shit here. Like when you read the history of like how he built his business, it is both like mind boggling that he got away with it. But also when you look at like, go back and look at the history of the Enron scandal,

go back and look at like a lot of like the shit that was going down in 2008 on wall street. Like this is so much of the economy is people just making up money just making making it up being like no that that club that i bought for you know tens of millions of dollars it's actually worth two billion dollars now like that's what he was doing with mar-a-lago like and that that's the one that they're focusing on because i guess there are like differences of opinion of like how much you could value mar-a-lago at because the judge is valuing it as not a private property but as a you know institution like a business which is what it is um and people are like no you could sell that for

much more than that but i don't know like it seems to be beside the point. Like that's just the one that like his people have seized on to try and defend it. Right. And again, like his whole thing was that he, he, one of the things he was arguing that was like more of a footnote in the whole, the, like all the legal documents is that he said it didn't matter. Like he didn't fraudulently inflate it because he could still sell them to saudi buyers at any price he chooses that is why yo come on like what let's dive in on

that a little bit you know what i mean like this is i can name my price they owe me one they owe me big time i don't know if you know i was the president and I might be the president again. I'm cheating super hard at that. So, uh, yeah, like, yeah,

it's just the, the, so it's influence peddling, not real estate acumen. Yeah. The, the shit is just baked in. The corruption is baked in.

He's not really trying to hide it. Um, no. And this is, this is like, really trying to hide it um no and this is this like really shouldn't be a surprise like if you were reading about like where he was as a businessman heading into the 2016 election he really like wasn't allowed to do business in the united states so like any arguments that like oh this this is now everybody wants to find fault with him because he's this political threat. Like, no, he's been he's been a fraudster. Yeah, he's been fraudulent from day one. And like he couldn't do business in the US without committing fraud.

It is wild. Like the Mar-a-Lago thing. It's like, I don't know, man. wild like the mar-a-lago thing it's just like i don't know man it could be worth nothing and 10 times that simultaneously which is really interesting how the judge is like so it's both at the same time sir and then the other thing he's like times his ruling oh which is two billion times yes sorry excuse me 18 million 100 times 18 million uh is two billion dollars almost 1.8 billion and he then like which is 22 because then it's like well it's about it's about the potential for real estate development but like the deed prevents that fucking property from ever being used that way

so it's just all fucking horseshit man he's trying to get them to value Mar-a-Lago like it's a tech company in the early 2000s. Right. Yeah. I think we can probably put that at two bills, right? Let's move it along here. Totally. Yeah, Super Producer Brian put it, but we're still going with the Air Bud Law of Running for President. There's nothing in the

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startwithhope.com brought to you by the national council for mental well-being shatterproof and the ad council and we're back we are and is the united states back what's going on with this one what's happening? I don't know. I don't know. We have the president standing with workers on the picket line, sure, for a photo op, but still. He even said they deserve a significant raise.

He didn't go as far to come after the automakers, but he did utter those words. And he was like, you should be getting some of the stuff that they're getting, like the ridiculous money that they're making. You should be doing well too. Come on, Jack. And then he pulled out his acoustic guitar and started singing Woody Guthrie shit.

It was pretty dope. No, he, yeah. So there's that. And then Trump coming out and being like, he stole the idea of siding with workers from me yeah so um that's one thing that made me i had to check my geo tagging where is i where is i is yeah there's still america and then i realized oh yes apple owns me apple knows where i am yeah and it's feeding my information back to the corporate. But Amazon, FTC, has filed what some think

may be the big one. Mm-hmm. Yeah. They call it the big one. Amazon might be in trouble. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the Federal Trade Commission, along with 17 other state attorneys general are, yeah, they're all filing it together. I had to put

A's G as my abbreviation i wrote this um but basically saying amazon is illegally maintaining a monopoly uh ftc charlena khan said quote our complaint lays out how amazon has used a set of punitive and coercive tactics to unlawfully maintain its monopolies the complaint sets forth detailed allegations noting how amazon is now exploiting its monopoly power to enrich itself while raising prices and degrading service for the tens of millions of American families who shop on its platform and the hundreds of thousands of businesses that rely on Amazon to reach them. Today's lawsuit seeks to hold Amazon to account for these monopolistic practices and restore the lost promise of free and fair competition.

They're seeking a, quote, permanent injunction in federal court that would prohibit Amazon from engaging in its unlawful conduct and pry loose amazon's monopolistic control to restore competition wow wow let's do google next yeah what do them all amazon wasn't i didn't think amazon was the one that had the most like case built against it i thought google was going to be the one because they because of their practices around uh google ads but yeah i'm not complaining you know no no no no but uh you know that's we'll see where this goes but it is nice to see them you know actually filing these kinds of lawsuits because like it's absolutely we're just gonna have fucking three places to buy things in 10 years yeah well to bring us back down to earth let's talk about what netflix disney and uh the other

streaming companies are doing in response to their big L that they took in the, in the strike. Uh, they have decided to form a powerful new political lobbying group, the streaming innovation Alliance. Um, CS, SIA,

which not to be confused with the pop star, but they claim they will advocate for federal and state policies that build on the strong competitive and pro customer market for streaming video look they're just looking out for the consumer here that's all they care about and how are you doing that because you want to bring the prices

down and expand your offerings what? I'm sorry did you say to not pay more taxes? I'm making sure I heard that right Make sure you don't pay taxes also Oh, because it trickles down to you You think they're not going to Come on, I'm spending money at your local store

That isn't in business anymore Because we put you out of business Yeah Right, because cable ain't there So they can't do the cable taxes And they're like, but they're trying to put it on us the streamers doesn't know yeah don't do that don't do that yeah i mean some people are like oh they could be you know lobbying in favor of net neutrality because that was like the one thing they were on the right side of um but netflix has stopped giving a shit about net neutrality and started giving a shit about um you know just

their own tax base and also not having to deal with regulations around the world netflix has been lobbying since 2010 and they now have a team of 30 full-time staffers devoted to public policy so four of them based in washington so there are four people probably graduated from like ivy league schools who work in washington full-time on netflix policy on behalf of netflix yeah yeah when like realistically it's going to be like you're saying to try and avoid taxation i'd imagine that they would probably have a bit of an anti-worker bend now that you know it's hard to imagine that when you see the wj being like all right we like this deal that they got to be like bro we got to figure out where to find some of this other money now because we got

to start paying these people their fair share oh fuck all right well fire up the lobbying machine um in washington uh netflix hires companies uh lobbying firms such as baker mckenzie uh which if you're not familiar with baker mckenzie you haven't read the pandora papers which uh those dumped all sorts of crazy information about corporate tax evasion like uber wealthy people's tax evasion and uh those papers mentioned baker mckenzie more than any other major u.s law firm uh the leaks alone revealed that baker mckenzie was involved in setting up more than 440 offshore companies registered in tax havens. Uh, so they're basically professional corruption engines, you know, like that.

They are allegedly. Yeah. Allegedly. We do miles. You think a law firm is going to be litigious? Come on. Uh, we have a soup to nuts sort of offering for our customer.

I mean, our clients, uh, cause we care about them. Obviously we're, we're full service. We're full service, full service, full service. Anyways. Uh we care about them, obviously. We're full service. We're full service. Full service.

Full service. Anyways. So that's how things are fought. Just straight up, you have corporations spending tons of money on lobbying efforts. And then for the first time, maybe, we have people actually, you know, governments and regulators actually trying to regulate. So, yeah. Be interesting. Will they regulate?

Will they do Warren G and Nate Dogg proud with these regulations? And mail them up. Do you think they said that at the FTC before they filed that lawsuit? Yeah, almost definitely. They just screamed it out? Regulators! 40-something white guys. Or there is like, there are like some Gen X

and like older millennials that are working there now. And they're like, that would be kind of cool, dude. That would be tight, right? Yeah. What else? California annexed first gun

and ammunition tax in the country. I mean, that's pretty cool. There's a lot of good news today. Holy shit. A lot of good news. A lot of good news. The federal government already taxes the sale of guns and ammunition at either 10 or 11 percent, depending on the type of gun. But with the signing of AB 28 on Tuesday,

California will now add an 11 percent excise tax on the purchase of guns and ammunition, which the bill's author states uh is lower than the excise tax on marijuana sales so that's how they got yeah let's like look this is barely yeah yeah i mean i yeah like again it's it's like what that chris rock bit from like one of his first albums he's like if you want to make gun control like easier just make a bullet cost five thousand dollars yeah. He's like, if you want to make gun control easier, just make a bullet cost $5,000.

Yeah, exactly. It's like printer. That's it. If you're not going to do it that way, then create some other forces, but now I'm sure people just buy it. Who knows? I don't know where the black market is for ammunition, but nice to see some little things getting done. Yeah, that's like

common sense. The money will pay for security improvements at public schools and a variety of gun violence prevention programs, including those geared toward young people and gangs. Whereas the money from federal tax, which has been in place

for more than 100 years, pays for wildlife conservation and hunter education programs. So basically like, might as well fund the NRA. Yeah. Which is interesting. I'm curious if these, if a gun violence prevention program means money to cops,

that's the one thing I'm a little like, what are we doing here? What are we doing here? Eventually one for us, the longer for them. Yeah, exactly. Hey,

that sounds good. It sounds good to me. We're so desperate for one for us that we're like. Yeah, exactly. Hey, that sounds good. Sounds good to me. We're so desperate for one for us that we're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. And that's what we call boy math. That's right. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Wednesday, September 27th. We are

back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, get the vaccine, don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk to y'all tomorrow. Bye. Bye-bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer

of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Cle Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti.

And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice.

And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.

Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.