The Daily Zeitgeist - Data Shows Cops Are Petty, Teaching History Will Destroy USA 6.17.21

Episode Date: June 17, 2021

In episode 932, Jack and Miles are joined by Web Crawlers podcast hosts Ali Segel and Melissa Stetten to discuss Republicans obsession with critical race theory, more shitty police antics, what exists... in the deep sea, In The Heights bombing, A Quiet Place 2 frustrating deaf moviegoers, and more!FOOTNOTES: None of These Republicans Trying To Ban 'Critical Race Theory' Seem To Actually Be Able To Define It The Specter of Critical Race Theory Is Rotting Republicans’ Brains Shake Shack Manager Sues NYPD Cops, Unions After False Poisoning Accusation Shake Shack manager was held and ‘taunted’ after NYPD union falsely claimed he poisoned drinks, lawsuit says NYPD Crime Response Time Still Lags Three Months Post-Protest 911 caller in ‘swatting’ incident at BLM leader’s home said he was sending ‘message’ In City After City, Police Mishandled Black Lives Matter Protests The Deep Sea Is Filled with Treasure, but It Comes at a Price ‘In The Heights’ Disappointed In Theaters And On HBO Max Box Office: How Brad Pitt And Sandra Bullock May Determine Hollywood’s Future ‘A Quiet Place 2’ Is the First Movie to Surpass $100 Million at the U.S. Box Office in Pandemic Times Deaf Moviegoers and Charity Speak Out Over Lack of ‘A Quiet Place 2’ Subtitled Screenings DOJ Rules for Movie Theater Captioning and Audio Description Take Effect For the deaf and hard of hearing, movies are often out of reach. That could change. CaptiView: a raw deal for deaf cinema goers New Closed-Captioning Glasses Help Deaf Go Out To The Movies Deaf and Hard-of-Hearing Moviegoers Take Their Fight for More Open Caption Screenings to the Council D.C. Council to reintroduce movie theater caption screening bill DISABILITY AND COMMUNICATION ACCESS BOARD For the deaf and hard of hearing, movies are often out of reach. That could change. Lights, camera, caption! Why subtitles are no longer just for the hard of hearing What we can learn about open captions from this small movie theater LISTEN NOW: AARON MAY - FEEL LIKE (Prod. Aaron May) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:59 Trust us, it's out of this world. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 189, episode 4 of It's out of this world. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I'm not thick, but I'm not svelte. And I'm Jong-un, son of Jong-il. That is courtesy of Tyler Alton, as Victor says. Got me again. Got him again. Got him again. But yeah, flagpole sitter about the newly slimmed down, trimmed down, hot Kim Jong-un. And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. I might be that chew boy on that cold brew or Italy.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Yeah. on that cold brew or italy yeah give me tuna meat a j dilla beat and her majesty yeah okay shout out to christy i'm a gucci man you combined all my interests cold brew italy subway tuna and j dilla you missed weed though so you almost got them all and my partner her majesty uh but shout out to you for that wonderful into the groove aka, a.k.a. Our alarm would have gone off if he had hit them all. Hit every dimension of my personality. Well, Miles, we are thrilled, blessed, to be joined by the hosts of the Web Crawlers podcast,
Starting point is 00:03:39 two great writers and teammates on the Pistol Shrimps basketball team. Please welcome the brilliant and talented Melissa Stetton and Allie Segal! Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Hi. Hi. Actually, Allie's not on the basketball team. She's an honorary member.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I was going to say, Jack, I don't think Allie's a Pistol Shrimp. I actually asked when they were having tryouts again, and no one circled back to me. The COVID happened. We haven't played in a year no i saw you guys posted a picture of yourselves playing so i saw it my bad okay it's okay can i make two comments really quickly yes yeah please okay um harvey danger flagpole sitta is my favorite song of all time And also one time I got food poisoning from a subway tuna sandwich in sixth grade. And I threw up on stage during rehearsal for the class play. And I haven't had a tuna subway sandwich since.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Oh, my God. We knew both of those facts. And that's why we did those. I thought so. But we fucked up the pistol shrimps part. We got to go to our research team and someone's why we did those AKs for you. I thought so. But we fucked up the pistol shrimps part. We gotta go to our research team and someone's getting fired. But what was the play and what was your role?
Starting point is 00:04:52 It was a play on Greek mythology that my music teacher created and made up. So she wrote all the songs and wrote the play. I feel like it was like an off-Broadway production that she just brought to my elementary school. And I
Starting point is 00:05:08 played Hera. Did you grow up in LA? Zeus's wife. Yes, I did. Okay, that feels like a very LA teacher. The teacher's like, so I wrote this musical that we're going to have a production of. I went to elementary school. Yeah, I went to a private school in LA. I feel that.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Oh, that's amazing. Were you able to work it into your character? Like kind of improv off of the- Oh, yeah, totally. Yeah. It flowed right in. Just tuna subway everywhere. Just seamlessly.
Starting point is 00:05:35 And Melissa, where do you hail from? I'm from the great state of Michigan, Kalamazoo. Shout out to Hander. Yeah, you're looking at the hand. I'm like down here. Southwest. Gotcha. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:05:50 And did you have any terrible experiences with Subway Tuna, J Dilla, Weed, Madonna, Black Bull Sitta? Just making sure. No, I do love that song because it's a theme song of the show peep show like the british comedy show favorite show i think we can all agree uh since we're talking about how good that song is that i nailed it my performance of it right it was your songbird you're beautiful i've got perfect pitch you do melissa grew up shucking corn yeah i did okay wait really tasseling what's corn detasseling that sounds it's a job i had because when you're like 14 or 15 you could work as a corn detasseler and they would you would wake up at like 5 a.m they'd put you on a school bus and you we went to indiana to these corn fields
Starting point is 00:06:38 and you would just pull the tassels off the corn you would just walk through the fields and it was so hot. And you would get this thing called corn rash because like, would wipe up against your arms. And you, I mean, you got paid like, I don't know, $8 an hour,
Starting point is 00:06:55 which was like huge back then. Especially for child labor. Yeah. But it was not, they would like give you five minutes for lunch and like, I get sunburned. What about our union 15? What? It was child labor.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Smoking cigarettes in the cornfields. I wanted to buy a car. I needed to tassel corn. And the tassel is the tip? Yes, it's the top of the. Right. You know. Easy, buddy. Oh, that like we, okay, right.
Starting point is 00:07:33 The part you never see at the store. That's in the stock photos of a cornfield. Exactly. That's how a city boy puts it together in my mind. Oh, from the pictures of the fields, but not what you get at Whole Foods. Right, right. You're welcome. When it's already in the cellophane and styrofoam tray that it comes in.
Starting point is 00:07:49 That's not in the field either, right? Yeah. It is actually. Weirdly enough, it is. Yeah. That's amazing. That's some real hardcore shit to be doing. I think like in LA, like your first job is like PA-ing on someone's like show.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Oh, yeah. That's like our corn detasseling or like working at some person's store that's like yeah I don't know I'll hire a kid oh totally 100% you're like someone's assistant and like that was my first job and moved to LA some woman's assistant when uh our basketball team like in Kentucky to raise money for the basketball team, I have no idea why we needed to do that. But we would work bingo halls and fish shows. What's a fish show? A fish, like P-H-I-S-H.
Starting point is 00:08:35 That was one of the things you did. It was like go to fish shows and basically work the parking lot and direct traffic. But then you were at a fish show. And your classmates were there getting fucking high out of their minds. basically work the parking lot and like direct traffic but then you were at a fish show and like your classmates were there getting fucking high out of their mind okay hold on there are that many fish shows that happened it was an annual thing yeah oh it was just like we had there there was like an annual horse race that our basketball team always worked the parking lot and an annual fish show. What's your favorite fish track?
Starting point is 00:09:07 I was not a fish fan. Oh man, you don't love Trey? That was when I was into the Wu-Tang Clan and you gotta pick one. Can't be either of both. That must have been hell then. You're like, fuck this old soft ass. Actually, there was one album that I got into that I can't remember
Starting point is 00:09:24 the name of, like Billy Breeds or something like that okay all right all right aren't fish people intense like fish people are like grateful dead people they follow them all around yeah there are certainly you follow yeah i know people who straight up i mean i know people who did follow fish around but yeah it's that same kind of energy. Because it's like their shows are just so jammy that it's like you go out there off your board on psychedelics and you're like, yeah, let's jump rope and do our thing. It's like real acid. Jump rope.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Acid energy. Acid jump rope. That's what I want to do when I take acid. The classic combo of jump roping and acid. At raves and shows where or people on psycheducks. I've seen the weirdest objects people use to like get their energy out. Like I've seen people with like LED jump ropes that are like, like,
Starting point is 00:10:14 you know, I have seen those. I have seen those at raves. And also when I was, I was in the marching band in high school and our drum major who like was the dude who had like the mace and would do all like the fucking twirling and shit he would go to raves with his own like gigantic glow stick and do like the wildest light shows with his drum major skills and he was like he would wear these baggy jinko pants and i remember seeing him like i thought he was a nerd and he's like hell no i'm the fucking center of attention at this rate so yeah people got nice accessories. Very cool. Do you remember those things from the 2000s where it was like those sticks that like.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Devil sticks? Yes. That's all I'm going to say. Oh, yeah. Crossover appeal to fish shows and and Ren fairs. I feel like that's the Venn diagram there. My first interaction with devil sticks was when I went to interlock in camp in Michigan. And there was like a kid who was crushing it with devil sticks.
Starting point is 00:11:10 And I thought it was easy. And I was so frustrated. Like I had my mom buying for me. I sucked. And like I broke them and was crying. It was like a whole thing. I had a couple of friends went to interlock and it might have been them. Because they were.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Good chance. Because my crew was sick with the devil so yeah that was us that was yeah yeah that was me who but us my wife went to interlock and i feel like a lot of i know so many people i feel like i missed out i just went to shitty uh basketball camps oh was she a musician right you said musician yeah no she was actually just really good at a hacky sack her skill was i was plastered all over like the brochure the year i went because it wasn't very diverse when i was there so they're like and look at this young man who is brown like and i was like in three pages and i was like oh i'm the star even though i'm like the third chair trumpet in the in the youth
Starting point is 00:12:01 symphony yeah all right uh we are gonna get to know you guys a little bit better in a moment first a couple of things we're talking about the critical race theory uh gop kind of scare politics thing is continuing to be used and apparently it's working we're going to check in with the police backlash to uh being criticized by protesters taking it well yeah they're taking it really well and uh they've they're good at dealing with constructive criticism we are gonna talk about just a cool thing i read about you guys read this about how you guys seen this you heard about this uh most of the creatures in the world on the planet Earth are part of a bioluminescent galaxy that exists below the twilight zone in like the pitch black part of
Starting point is 00:12:52 the ocean. I thought there were like the occasional fish that lit up. Apparently, when you go down there, it's like a constellation of just tons and tons of animals that light up. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about the box office. We'll talk about why a quiet place too is frustrating hearing impaired viewers. All of that, plenty more. But first, Melissa, Allie, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Oh, well, mine is so stupid.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Perfect. I just occasionally I'll like pop in or something i'll pop in my brain like a memory of like someone i met or like i hooked up with and i was like oh yeah what happened to that guy i hooked up with like when i was in high school and it was that i met in an aol chat room and so the only thing i remember about him was his name was alex he spoke russian he went to Western Michigan University. So I Googled Alex, Russian Western Michigan University. Clearly did not result in anything.
Starting point is 00:13:53 And why I thought that was going to work. Yeah. More importantly, do you remember the screen name? No. I tried to actually see if I could log back into my old AOL email. But I haven't checked it in 15 years. So it's like, this account has been suspended due to inactivity. I was like, damn it.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I would kill the log into my old AOL email. Oh, man. Yeah, I feel like that's... I've tried to look for people based on screen names, and it never worked. Never worked. It gave me hope for a second because like sometimes it'll be like search screen names email addresses whatever to find somebody in it now you always have to end up paying the last step is you have to pay exactly is it yeah is it worth
Starting point is 00:14:36 70 to find out if someone when you were 18 is married and has a family now. Cool. Good for them. You pay enough, you can just look at their webcam right there in the moment. See what they're doing right now. I bet you that would be, in the near future, that's probably an option. Like, for more, do you want to access their ring cameras? Oh, it definitely is a promise that they make you. You can already do that. Then you pay the money and they're like, psych, you can't do that.
Starting point is 00:15:04 100%. Allie, what's something from your search history? make you that then you pay the money and they're like psyched you can't do that 100 percent ali what's something from your search history okay so our producer of our podcast her name is maria and she is obsessed with this bottled oxygen like but she like you know how the the severe elderly or people who are sick have like oxygen tanks. Tragically elderly. The severe geriatric have like oxygen tanks, but it's like you have to wheel them around. Right. I swear to God, this isn't an ad or a sponsored post, but you can buy like portable oxygen.
Starting point is 00:15:44 What? Yeah. And just huff it. And she's obsessed with it. So I Googled it and I was like, what is the deal with this? And I bought like a case of oxygen. One of the characters I model my life after, Dennis Hopper and Blue Velvet, rocks that quite a bit. You get it. What are the benefits of huffing just straight oxygen out the can? I'm so glad you asked. Aerobic performance, recharge and recover, and it helps with
Starting point is 00:16:12 altitude and poor air quality. Oh, so if you're going to climb Everest. Which I do frequently. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if you guys knew this but oxygen directly fuels 90 of all body and mind functions and the air is only 21 oxygen doesn't this feel like a scam like someone's like well man if they're bottling water like why the fuck are we there's like nothing in here this is like computer duster for sure i remember like in the early aughts like there was that whole oxygen bar craze where like in vegas or like vault malls and like the beverly center and shit would have like come to the oxygen bar and like pick some like tranquility mixed with stress relief and then you just like sit there inhaling
Starting point is 00:16:56 oxygen and i felt like it was such a placebo effect or like i mean at the time i was like 15 i was like oh yeah okay this is hitting but i'm like the strawberry the strawberry is really good yeah yeah it's like a hookah yeah like 100% like ashton kutcher had his own like oxygen bar in like weho or something like that right right it was next to geisha house yeah geisha house shout out shout out the chugi club goers out there that remember the OGs. If you're there at Privilege, at the underground after hours part of Privilege, let them know one time where you can see the people's feet underneath. I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
Starting point is 00:17:37 This is LA. This is LA. I don't get to get LA takes off. Are you from LA? Yeah, yeah. I'm from LA. Where'd you go to high school? I went to Notre Dame. Harvard Westlake, baby. Yeah, yeah. Where'd you go to high school? I went to Notre Dame.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Harvard Westlake, baby. Oh, shit. Okay. So that like Molly Lambert went there also. Yes. A guest who's on very regularly. Yeah. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:17:54 A lot of people. Jacob Soboroff. Yes. A friend of mine, I think, also went there. Miles Soboroff. Yeah, his brother who makes hot sauce. Yes. Love it.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Hell yeah. Cool. Look at that. Look at that. Sounds great. Win eight, baby. Win eight, win eight when you're they went at your family yeah it's like the olive garden do you feel any like when when you take a hit off of the oxygen right now tank yeah could you could we hear it can we see last one off right now in vegas I think so. That was always like a thing I'd read.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Okay, it just looks like you're vaping with like a... I feel like I'm breathing. I don't think it does anything to tell you the truth. Okay. You just died. Oh, your eye's bleeding really bad. It's dangerous. But I mean, there is like, they say that if you're in a car that goes underwater, you're supposed to like take like five deep huffs of air and like you'll be able to like, I don't know, your blood will be more oxygenated.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Oh, that's a good tip. Yeah. I just tried it when I was holding my breath to impress my three-year-old the other day. And it works I was able to do it by like you know huffing big big breaths before I went under and I passed out and knocked the tv over yeah yeah yeah um no big deal what is uh what is something you guys think is overrated? Well, this might be controversial or not. Golf. Not on my podcast.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Not on my podcast. Do you want me to leave? No, I hate golf. I want you to leave so we can follow you to the protest at the country club. I can't. It's boring. It's very boring. It's not easy.
Starting point is 00:19:46 And it takes so much time to be good at it. And it's expensive. That's the point. It's not quick. It's not easy. It does take skill. That's why it's so good. You have to apply for memberships to go to these
Starting point is 00:20:03 country clubs. You can be denied a membership. It's very elitist and rich people. Yeah, and it takes so yeah you have to apply for memberships to go to these country clubs you can be denied a membership it's very like elitist and like rich people yeah and it takes up the best parts of los angeles and a lot of space yeah so much space you could build so many houses where all these dumb golf courses are so it's overrated we'd have like 900 amazing central parks if yeah bring the gates down and just be like hey y'all can fucking just enjoy the earth so crazy in the We'd have like 900 amazing central parks. Yeah. I know. Bring the gates down and just be like, hey, y'all can fucking enjoy the earth. So crazy. In the city.
Starting point is 00:20:39 To understand L.A., yeah, all you have to really understand is that imagine that in Manhattan, if they just walled off Central Park and only rich people were allowed to go there. Yeah. Yeah. You had to pay $200,000 to have access to it. What is, Allie, something you think is overrated? Mine is also probably will be controversial for some people, but for me, it's Chrissy Teigen. Oh, shots fired.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I'm just over it. Just log off. I don't need to talk about it. I don't need to know your business. I don't care about how you're feeling, what you're doing, your redemption tour. I just like I don't need to know about what's going on with you. And it's weird that you think the whole world always needs to know what's going on with you. I don't I don't need it. Yeah, there's a there's like a weight.
Starting point is 00:21:20 It almost feels like I have this burden to carry the world on my shoulders. And I have to get this medium post off to let people know where I'm at since I lost my Target money. It's like she thinks we've all been waiting to hear from her. With bated breath wandering. I've been waiting. Well, Melissa has. But we've all been waiting with bated breath to hear how Chrissy Teigen is doing. And it's like, I don't care. Just live your life and that will be so much better than you constantly being online.
Starting point is 00:21:51 That's what we need from you. Go hang out on an island for like a year. Just like hang out with her family. Like she doesn't need to be on the Internet. Like just enjoy your life. I wish her no ill will. Like I wish her nothing but the best i hope she i hope she's happy and kind and thriving i think i just like i i don't i don't need to hear
Starting point is 00:22:13 from her i don't think anyone needs to hear from her like i think it would be a benefit to her if she yeah i agree yeah i agree it's just like i get it you know you're saying i i fucked up i need to grow as a person okay go grow and then you know right right do your growth that's it that's and then nothing as long as you're not out here denying you said anything like i never said anything i don't know what the fuck they're talking about i'm fine i'm good take it and then don't come back and be like guys i know that was hard on me too okay that's what I will say. And like, I don't even want to get into her apology, but like her,
Starting point is 00:22:47 her amends or her apology was all about like her growth and how she's doing and like what she learned on a public level and not at all specifically like about the people who she called out or who she hurt on a public level. And all these people are like, she ruined my career and she ruined my life in front of millions of people. Like, say specifically sorry to them publicly if you demolish their careers publicly as well.
Starting point is 00:23:18 It was just all about her. And it's just like, I don't care. Goodbye. Just go do your thing. It's just weird to also see other celebs ride this wave because today I was reading like Leona Lewis was saying was saying like oh i know michael costello has something to say about chrissy teigen you say well i have something to say about michael costello and you're like what the yeah it's just like let's all talk about things that are more important granted i'm
Starting point is 00:23:36 perpetuating it right now like i'm talking about it here but it's just the pr wave right now yeah totally 100 yeah uh what is something you guys think is underrated? I'm going to say possums. Wow. I like that. This might be controversial. Oh, yeah. Perfect. I love it.
Starting point is 00:23:55 But possums. Okay, so I started putting out food outside my house at the beginning of quarantine because I saw a couple of cats walking by. I I have a cat that I named Skeletor that basically lives in my front yard I feed it three times a day okay it's it's mine it's my cat it's my outdoor cat and I also have possums and raccoons and skunks. And I put out a little camera so I could see them. Possums are adorable. I know they look like scary, like pointy cats with like 55 teeth inside. But they're so nice.
Starting point is 00:24:38 And they eat a lot of ticks. And they don't have rabies. And they don't have rabies. My mom is the same the same crew as you she's been she started off with her seeing a possum once and she is like the north hollywood possum lady she's a card carrying member of like the north american like a possum society and she's like a possum event and i at the first i'm like yo don't feed them nasty what the fuck you do they're fine they're docile they don't have rabies the scars on their faces is because they don't see well
Starting point is 00:25:08 and they they they go around the world using the front of their face that's why it gets all scarred up it's not because they're nasty and getting in fights that's just how they make sense and they carry their babies on their backs yeah wow yeah they'll have like five little possums like just hang like carrying around on their backs until they're big enough. Which is how Miles' mom carries her possum on me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:30 She has her possum. She carries me to this day. So they know the relationship. Can you back rides for baby? This is my mommy. That's why I'm riding on her back. That's amazing. Possums.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Mine is cold showers instead of hot showers okay really good for you actually good for your nervous system it's like uh people do those like cryo you know like you go in that like freezing chamber and it's just easier and you can do it from home like a cold plunge it just rejuvenating gives you more energy than a hot shower. You'll be surprised. Try it out. It doesn't have to be a full cold shower. Just like go cold for 15 seconds at the end of your shower and it will. I love
Starting point is 00:26:13 doing that. I love doing that. Yeah, I see. So you do a cold water floater on top of your hot shower. Hell yeah, baby. And then I take a dose of that oxygen and I'm ready to go. Invigorated. It's funny, this is one of those things that Seinfeld really influenced for me. And now, like, I'm just realizing that as you say it, like, I think when I was younger,
Starting point is 00:26:39 liked cold showers because they like wake you up. then there was that part in seinfeld where somebody claims to take a cold shower and seinfeld's like cold showers they're for psychotics and there you go i was like yeah that's right like that just resonated with me that's right guy who dates kids right exactly i just i need to go through and just remove all seinfeld assumptions from my brain. Yeah. I get it. But I mean,
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Starting point is 00:31:19 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast and we're back and the biden administration has been a little strange for the lack of kind of scandals coming from the right like they i haven't heard about him wearing a, the wrong suit to anything. Uh, the way that we, we did when Obama was in power, the, you know, Fox news just could bring up anything about him and like their majority racist viewership was just ready to hate him. But Biden looks exactly like their majority racist viewership. So now they and I think also his policies are pretty popular. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Well, yeah. I mean, they don't remember they didn't want to talk about the stimulus because people like, yeah, I need money from the government. Are you kidding me? I don't I'm not working right now. So they're like, talk about Mr. Potato Head. Now they have to talk about Mr. Potato Head, Dr. Seuss. And the big one these days is now critical race theory.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Yeah. And it's it's it's completely like like you said, it's we're in a whole new environment where they can't even focus on even the low hanging fruit, which would be like, what is Joe Biden actually done from his campaign promises? Because I would if you're looking for something to be critical of, that's something you could go down a list and be like, well, where is that student debt relief? Where was that? That weird math where twenty one hundred certainly turned into a different amount of stimulus money. But now it's critical race theory. And we've talked about before how this has been a conscious effort to create this like outrage over it.
Starting point is 00:33:01 And the numbers, I think, are starting to show that this is very clear fox news mentioned critical race theory 552 times in the previous 11 months and then it ramped up in the last three which there's another number that's like over 600 and it's only gotten more and more last week they've shoehorned it into coverage 125 times in five days. And then so then you see we've seen all their coverage or a lot of coverage in the media of this has been, you know, people in Florida or Texas like governors and legislators trying to be like, we got to stop teaching this. Or like scenes of like outraged, like racist parents at the school board meetings. We like don't teach them history. What is this?
Starting point is 00:33:45 It's destroying us. And yeah, the biggest thing that's just the biggest miss of all of this, or at least in the reporting, is that first of all, it's a decades old academic discipline. But on top of it, this is taught at the graduate level, like when you are in university. This isn't we didn't grow up with like all right kids now open up your critical race theory books as like first graders so all of the energy is completely misplaced and this is all by design because they just need this catch-all outrage topic to get people sort of they just need an energy to exploit and yeah i think the more you you hear what how people talk about it you're like do they even know what this is or this is just the new dog whistle that can play a bunch of different tunes right didn't like one of them was
Starting point is 00:34:29 one of the conservative politicians was asked to describe like what critical race theory is and the the person whose last name is pringle uh appropriately enough said yeah from alabama it basically teaches that certain children are inherently bad people because of the color of their skin, period. Huh? That's a lot to unpack. These people. From whose perspective?
Starting point is 00:34:56 These people, when they were doing the training programs and the government, if you don't buy into what they taught you 100%, they sent you away to a re-education camp. What do you mean? The white male executives are sent to a three-day re-education camp where they were told that their white male culture wasn't there. Okay, let's stop him there. Huh, sir? Are you okay?
Starting point is 00:35:35 Yeah. It's sir. Are you OK? Because this is like just hearing that in the in the wake of the uprisings last summer, there were companies saying, like, we need racial sensitivity training because they're clear blind spots from van and then driven to the dark side of town for like have their eyes peeled open to watch like a bunch of fucking rap videos. I don't know what the fuck they think this is. And it goes on still like the other like attacks are people saying, quote, minority students are going to suffer the most from this. When you teach students that the system is against them, they have no motivation to learn. they are not going to try to work they are not going to try to improve themselves wow seinfeld was doing that part what are you talking about they're not gonna prove themselves he says i mean this whole idea that it's like oh thank you the savior person for saving me from being defeated by acknowledging that I'm surviving in a racist construct?
Starting point is 00:36:27 Like, what exactly is the concern there? And I think this has been going, it's just gaining more and more momentum. But I think this is the part where you really see what it's all about. Because underneath it, it's just like the other threats are that it will lead kids to Marxism. And this is the last thing that this guy Pringle said. He said, quote, this is still the greatest country that ever, ever been in the history of the world.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Okay. And the radical left is trying to destroy that and tear us apart and divide this country based on race and class, which is exactly what they do in communist countries. Uh-huh. I don't. So you don't know what communism is either.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Okay, cool. Goddamn. They love comparing things to like concentration camps and like just implying. Did you see that what's her face, Marjorie, whatever? Yeah, I was just going to say like as one of them is apologizing for comparing masks to the Holocaust. Yeah, she's like, I had no idea. Like, was she not taught?
Starting point is 00:37:24 Also, it took you 40 years to go to a Holocaust museum? Yeah, were you not taught that? Was she not taught that? And this is why we need better education, because she didn't know what the Holocaust was. And then she's like, y'all, I was just in that museum. It happened. Have you guys fucked up?
Starting point is 00:37:39 She literally said, hey, it happened. Like, are you, what? Where did she start you from know i saw this i saw this tiktok the other day where this like republican lady was complaining about the quaker oats guy on the canister and was like if we're gonna change aunt jemima we should get rid of this slave owner on the this can of oats and like someone was like great that's not a slave owner on this can of oats. And someone was like, that's not a slave owner, that's a Quaker. That's a completely different... That's not a slave owner.
Starting point is 00:38:10 They weren't into that. Nobody knows what they're talking about. Right. Yeah. And I think even with that Marjorie Taylor Greene comment, it's like... It just shows you how much of a threat these kinds of people are when this is their worldview.
Starting point is 00:38:25 And then they enter the halls of Congress to, you know, drum up legislation that is trying to reinforce their worldview. Or maybe the Holocaust. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I have really fucked up views. Were you there? Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:42 That's like her. It's so crazy. I went to like a shitty public school in michigan and i know about the holocaust like at the very least right probably didn't have parents at home that were saying you know it didn't happen i don't know what they're teaching you because i right in eighth grade we took a trip to dc i may have told this story before before we were going into the holocaust museum our teachers before i got off the bus said, Hey, I just want to let you know, we got a letter from a parent that said that the Holocaust never happened and that they didn't want,
Starting point is 00:39:15 they didn't want your classmate in to go to this museum. And I just want to let all of you know, I'm not going to say who it is, but I just want to let you know that there are people who are going to deny what all of the things you are about to see in this museum. And it was really poignant. Wow. It was like, it was like, everyone's like, yo, what the fuck? And growing in LA, we're like, we saw Schindler's List. It was best picture. But like, then we go in and that was sort of, wow, that was my first time even hearing that people were like, what do you, but that shit happened?
Starting point is 00:39:47 Like, what are you talking about? I didn't know about Holocaust deniers until maybe like 10 years ago. I had no idea it was a thing. Right. Yeah. All right. Very cool. Cool time.
Starting point is 00:39:59 We live in. Marjorie Taylor Greene. What a threat. Let's talk about the police real quick uh they're back in the news these guys oh boy so uh one just kind of smaller scale thing but the manager from the shake shack that supposedly poisoned the milkshakes air quotes around poison is suing the NYPD because yeah, yeah. They arrested him, interrogated him for hours, like continue.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Yeah. And this was a part. This was after they knew, like after they didn't happen. Yeah. They went to the emergency room, emergency. People were like,
Starting point is 00:40:38 you did not drink bleach. Like that's just not a, not a thing that happened to you. Stop resisting. bleach like that's just not a not a thing that happened to you stop resisting so they came to him we're like this tastes a little off and he was like oh my god i'm so sorry and gave them vouchers uh they come back two hours later and arrest him after going to the emergency room and then their union immediately like reports that they were poisoned on. And it goes viral because, again, the right just needs something to complain about. action backlash by the police to just the fact that they were criticized, openly criticized. There are now like more and more documented examples of police refusing to answer calls
Starting point is 00:41:35 for help and being like, well, you should have not defunded us then. Oh, come on. And there's this argument that conservatives have been making since Ferguson. It's called the Ferguson effect. And it claims that because people protested the police, there was a spike in the murder rate. And that's because like the police were scared or something. And the facts are that the police, when they're protest, just disassociate, just like check out and will not protect those people. And like I have talked about how I have like anecdotal cases where somebody was robbed and called the police and they were like came the next day.
Starting point is 00:42:17 And we're like, sorry, but you guys shouldn't have like talked to your council person and tell them they shouldn't have defunded us. And like the funding change is tiny it's like almost non-existent it's not real it's just the police being fucking petulant right and yeah i don't know and i feel like this story is being covered in the margins but it's not like there's evidence that NYPD response time to crimes in progress has dropped since the protests, even though ambulance response time has gotten quicker because there are fewer cars on the road
Starting point is 00:42:57 because of the pandemic. And it's not like the police are like, yeah, because people were retiring because their feelings were hurt. It's just like, well, fucking people were retiring because they their feelings were hurt. It's just like, well, fucking hire new people like what these are good. If you if you're that's that means you aren't the kind of person who should be protecting or serving fucking anybody rather than your own like racist fantasies that you've you entered the force with. And I think it's also just when you see things like that, too, you're like, well, what is what is what do the police really do? You know, because do they prevent crime?
Starting point is 00:43:27 I'm not sure. Is that is that how we prevent crime by having the police? I don't think so. I think it's because people are destitute and resort to extra legal things to survive or because the nature of trying to survive puts people in a different mindset. Your behavior is completely different. It's this example always says, like, same reason why you don't see a lot of cops in beverly hills same reason you don't see a lot of cops in burbank unless you're brown and you're driving down mcnolly and your system's too loud but like that whole idea is those areas are well supported so because of that
Starting point is 00:43:58 there's not the same sort of forces acting on people to commit crimes and i think that to to think like oh man you just gotta have more boots in there just brutalizing people. No, it's all fucking, it's just a myth. And yeah, I wonder why there is less sort of energy to cover this because it felt like if this came out sort of last summer, this would have been reported more.
Starting point is 00:44:20 But I think it also shows how the media has a role to play in upholding these systems of oppression by saying like, well, we can make it hot to a point and then we'll ease off and then we won't really give substantive reporting on this. Right. There's this writer, Thomas Abt, who just released a book called Bleeding Out that's sort of a manifesto for targeting violence. And the book points out that basically all the methods that the police use to police neighborhoods where a lot of murders happen are counterproductive. And we're seeing it like Biden's infrastructure bill, which is going to get watered down but like at least it started out
Starting point is 00:45:06 with a lot of this guy's ideas like really well funded in it and i know that at a local level a bunch of different city councils passed funding for non-police like emergency response uh which is something we've talked about on the show as like, yeah, if there's a mental health issue or basically any issue that doesn't involve somebody who is physically harming somebody, like send, there should be an option to call somebody who's not the police basically. And that is, we're starting to see a little bit more funding. So there is small victories,
Starting point is 00:45:44 but it just isn't really breaking through to the mainstream. Just how toxic the police response to those protests have been. But we'll have a lot of articles about this in the footnotes. It should be like almost disqualifying. You know what I mean? Like if that's your behavior to say like, exactly. It's like,
Starting point is 00:46:02 well, look, honey, I didn't, I couldn't clean the gutters because you asked me to to get the garage tidy if i have look if you'd asked me to do that i could have done the other thing so like it's that same shitty logic of well you inconvenienced me so now i'm gonna just be i'm gonna have this resentment and uh completely disengage from my work. And it's just like that in and of itself
Starting point is 00:46:26 should be such a horrifying thing for people to learn that these people are like even exercising that kind of agency to be like, nah, I'm not going to respond to that. While we're still paying them too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, with our money.
Starting point is 00:46:40 With our real American dollars. I mean, the fact that there is one type of person With our real American dollars. know scrutinized group of people in the world right like we would we would be all over those people and when we even try to like give them a modicum of like responsibility for the actions of their worst the people who are just wantonly killing people they react like this it's just such a broken system like it really makes you realize why people are asking for the abolition of of police well it's because they help protect the property from the billionaires that don't actually pay their salaries which is the whole irony of it too right right all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about a cool thing I read. It can feel like we're angrier and more divided than ever.
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Starting point is 00:52:05 why the joke was funny. Sometimes I don't even get it. I'm informed later by the listeners like, no, that actually wasn't the joke. But anyways, I just have my mind blown by this article about kind of the deepest parts of the ocean, which we've actually been talking about on the show in the context of like unidentified aerial phenomenon and submerged phenomenon, because, you know, these like white tic-tacs that people keep seeing tend to be around bodies of water and around the ocean.
Starting point is 00:52:38 And so some people speculate that that's where they're coming from is like the seafloor. But this just kind of blew my mind just in general without any uh context of of aliens so the there are only only the top layers of the oceans are illuminated there's the sunlight zone which extends about 700 feet the twilight zone which goes down another 2,600 feet. And then everything below that, there's just not, there's no light. And down there, like the light is created by the animals themselves. There's like bioluminescence and apparently bioluminescence
Starting point is 00:53:18 has developed in like 50 different ways. It's not like everybody figured out the same trick evolutionarily. It, they all developed like in different ways using's not like everybody figured out the same trick evolutionarily it they all developed like in different ways using different methods and it's super cool so this explorer like goes down there it's apparently really really hard to get to that depth because you know you have to lower a camera you would be like crushed as a for the most part and when they get down there explorers are always like it's like a firework show down there. It's not like every once in a while there's a glowing animal.
Starting point is 00:53:52 It's like they're just everywhere. It's like some Avatar type shit. Yeah, it's like some Avatar shit. That's amazing. And there's so many animals down there that are bioluminescent that this scientist says that she estimates that it's most of the creatures on the planet. Like most of the organisms on the planet Earth are down in that zone.
Starting point is 00:54:17 And we like, yeah, because we don't know what's down there. Yeah, we just don't know. There's aliens down there. People are like, there's aliens in the sky. I'm like, guys, have you been in the ocean? there's aliens down there people are like there's aliens in the sky i'm like guys have you been in the oceans there's aliens down there they don't even know what's down there you have to look outside the planet is this like because i always see like whenever i've seen like those planet earth type things those are always the most fascinating sections for me because i'm like the fuck like i've seen birds and i've seen all this other stuff but like
Starting point is 00:54:43 all of this i don't know technology or these evolutionary traits that they've developed it really is it shows you like we they're so little uh we really know and but when you say that most of the organisms you mean like numerically in terms of the number of like different species like that no i think it's the number of animals the number of animals like there's so many down there and yeah so that's like the thing that yeah i've seen the you know the david attenborough nature documentaries and i always got the impression like yeah there's like a handful of these like really cool like bioluminescent creatures down there but for the most part it's supposed to be like a desert down there and this scientist is like no it's incredibly like active
Starting point is 00:55:33 and full of life and full of like glowing uh just wild it's like a it's like a light show down there it's terrifying yeah you know who just recently hosted a nature show and it's like the most distracting thing of all time? Ross from Friends. David Schwimmer. And it's like I cannot get through it with his voice being the one. It's like
Starting point is 00:55:57 the beautiful gazelle. It's so bad. Wait, what? It's on like Discovery Plus or something. Yeah, that's a joke. So bad. They're trolling us. I thought it was a joke and it's so serious.
Starting point is 00:56:14 And I was like, who is this for? I guess Friends fans. It's so bad. Oh, wow. Like, yeah, I don't think, you know, great scientific commentary when I think David Schwimmer. I'm like, great facial performances. Do you think it's because he was a paleontologist on the show? So they're like, he should do, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Maybe they have some fucked up data that suggests like this like Venn diagram overlap of Friends fans and people who like the like, like nature shit too. Maybe the algorithm. It feels like a Netflix type combo. We're like, no, it sounds stupid, but it's just doing numbers. Yes. I mean, that makes total sense. Like Friends is one of the most popular
Starting point is 00:56:52 streaming shows of all time. And people like nature. I think a lot of people watch nature documentaries on there. If George Costanza narrated a nature documentary, I would listen. The sea was angry that day, my friend. That's literally, I made a reference to that on yesterday's episode.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Well, there you go. Great one. A lot of Seinfeld references. All right, let's talk about the box office. I was very disappointed to see that the movie in the heights bombed like i think people were saying like at least they were expecting at least 20 million at the box office and it made 11 and also nobody watched it on hbo max it had fewer people watch it than cruella and Cruella cost like $30
Starting point is 00:57:45 and In the Heights was free. More people paid to see Cruella than to watch In the Heights. Cruella was good. That's what I've heard. I'm sorry, Cruella was good. It was really bad. I don't think that's a hot take. It was bad. It was ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:58:03 But I was entertained the whole time. I heard it tells the truth about those fucking dalmatians right they're evil and will kill your mother they should have been dead yeah ali was furious ali literally said it as a joke where i was like what is the origin gonna story gonna be that dalmatians killed her family and then that was the origin story. Sorry, spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. That happened in the first scene, right?
Starting point is 00:58:30 Yeah, it's the first scene. That's like her Bruce Wayne moment. Yeah. The couple in the pale moonlight. Oh my God. These 101 Dalmatians mauled my family. I haven't watched it, which I should have wanted to to watch it I was like a
Starting point is 00:58:46 in a dark period of my life a real Hamilton dork I saw it in the heights on Broadway loved it was really like rooting for this movie and I just think they fucked up the marketing like it just seemed like the the same way that
Starting point is 00:59:02 all the ads I saw for it just it seemed like it was just another like west side story type thing like or you know a musical set in modern new york and it was like they were the the thing that's cool about it is the way that like the rapping like carries the story forward and it has like you know a momentum of its own and they just like don't have that in almost any of the trailers or commercials for it it reminded me of like when they released frozen and like just made it made the first trailer about olaf the snowman because they were like scared that people would see that it had two sisters at the center instead of like a guy and a girl and would like wouldn't watch it.
Starting point is 00:59:50 They were like hiding the thing that was good about it because it was unorthodox basically. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure that all the sort of controversy around like the colorism and things like that. Yeah. That's consumed like a lot of the coverage recently more than me even hearing what people thought of the films and then will miranda apologizes you know for the lack of representation of like afro latinx people that could have been in the film and things like that so i yeah i don't and the trailers almost seem
Starting point is 01:00:20 like it was like i i it didn't register to me that it's a musical i know it's a musical but when i watched the stuff yeah i didn't i'm like i didn't know either yeah i don't know either but like a very high energy action film with dancing or something yeah that's what i thought and there's like occasionally it was mission impossible high energy action film yeah there's also like something that felt sort of obama administration era about like how i don't know it was just like really on the nose like he's wearing a a shirt that says nueva york in the trailer like it's like yes we're in new york and we are part of the latin community yes no way about york but yeah anyways the the marketing just felt like it was kind of me selling it short according to people who have seen it which yeah is the problem um bummed to see it didn't do better and then when's west side
Starting point is 01:01:18 story come up like in like two days or some shit it's like what the fuck it who who planned out their release schedule here like hey you're going toe-to-toe with spielberg's west side story well i think the pandemic planned it out like made it all go but yeah i do think they were supposed to come out in the same year during the pandemic because i remember during the oscars when we began that was when i began to see even more west side story and in the heights footage, I was like, this is confusing to me. I'm mixing up the two in my head right now, and certainly that doesn't help, but yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Again, something that if you showed the wrapping would have made it a very bright line. Clear difference. The wrapping in West Side Story is supposed to be not very good. I've been told. It was all written by Macklemore, right? Oh, no. Alan Menken and Macklemore.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Asher Roth. Yeah, Asher Roth. Also, just checking back on something we've speculated about, the idea that streaming shows aren't really as popular as we treat them i guess a lot a lot of the time like that loki show that everyone was talking about a week ago this guy scott mendelson from forbes who i think is one of the smartest people writing about kind of the entertainment industry was pointing out that like the equivalent of eight million dollars worth of ticket sales saw that show the opening week.
Starting point is 01:02:47 For a Marvel thing, it would have been a complete disaster. But people treated it like, oh, Loki is a big show. And it's like, no, nobody really watches that shit. But we treat it like it's another Marvel movie or something. So, anyways. Good luck to them.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Good luck to those guys. I wish them the best. Good luck to Disney. Good luck to Loki. Yeah, I hope they make it. I mean, they're so... They're known for being very economic. I think they'll survive.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Yeah, no, I do have high hopes for that company. I think they're going places. They're going places. The only reason that I want to watch that is for, what's his name, Owen Wilson. I miss Owen Wilson and stuff. I love Owen Wilson. What's he in? What's he in?
Starting point is 01:03:41 Yeah, what thing? Oh, he is? Oh, shit. Yeah. I didn't know that. what's he in look yeah what thing oh yes oh yeah yeah i know that and uh there was like a little piece of viral marketing where tom hiddleston did a uh owen wilson impression to like add a press junket and people were like oh i'm so here for this like owen wilson impression and it was like so bad it was just him doing a fucking american accent i was like what are you doing what's happening all right uh let's talk about the movie people are actually watching was which
Starting point is 01:04:11 is a quiet place 2 which yeah kind of became the first pandemic era movie to make more than 100 million dollars at the u.s box office which again like you talk about people that we root for here, John Krasinski's designer sock vendor business, we're always concerned that that's making enough money. So happy to see him have good things happen for him. So there's a minor controversy in the UK about the lack of subtitled screenings offered to the public on this movie, which is like the protagonist of this movie
Starting point is 01:04:46 is a deaf character played by a deaf actress um and like a huge breakthrough and like creating a role model for hearing impaired viewers and they just like aren't showing it in a format that would be possible for deaf people to watch. Yeah. And this kind of story, JM, our writer, kind of did a deep dive into just what the whole process, what it means when they say, okay, closed captioning devices are available. That's just a little screen that they give you that plugs into your cup holder some somehow and it just like says the words on it but you have to like look back and forth between the screen and like this tiny little screen in front of you
Starting point is 01:05:38 which sucks like that's people are like this is awful yeah. And it's also like all of it is like based off the dumbest presumptions on how people watch movies or what would repel someone from going to a movie or attract someone to going to a movie. Like the idea is like, well, we can't we can't have more open caption films. People don't go. Right. And that's why. So in the UK, they do open caption, which is like putting the captions on and just on the screen. And like there's a certain number of movies that have them, which seems to be the better option for everybody. But there's a controversy because they're just not doing enough of them in the UK right now.
Starting point is 01:06:19 But so there's been a push to do open captioning in the US. So there's been a push to do open captioning in the U.S. and like theater owners have basically like just sandbagged any efforts to do this. Like they they'll be like, OK, yeah, we want to we're going to do a study where we like do open captioning and see if it like changes the box office. And then they'll like put open captioning on like cats like on a thursday morning and then like oh put not open captioning on avengers endgame on a friday night and be like well i think that speaks for itself guys we can't yeah we can't do open cap we're gonna be drowned we're gonna drown in just the loss of profit from doing this. It's like, I watch,
Starting point is 01:07:05 I, my wife and I keep the closed captioning on. Yeah. I do too. All streaming content that we watch. I always have closed captioning on my TV. Right. Like,
Starting point is 01:07:16 that's, that's the case. What the fuck are they doing? Yeah. There's a lot of, like, just analysis that shows people who like watch even tv shows or netflix with it on aren't hard of hearing or hearing impaired like it's because a lot i remember like i first started doing it when deadwood came out because like the dialogue is so dense and like you know
Starting point is 01:07:36 colloquial and of the time that i was like i need to see the words they're saying and it's been a thing that carries on like certain things sometimes i'm like uh sometimes they'll distract me from actually like looking at like the cinematography and whatever but for the most part i don't mind it and that's what's like so bizarre because there's not it doesn't seem like there's a sentiment from people who wouldn't require open caption to be like i would never yeah i don't think people are vehemently against it. I don't think there's going to be like protests outside AMC. Like. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:07 You know, with misspelled signs because. Yeah. Think about it. Actually. There's even like this thing with like, uh, during the pandemic,
Starting point is 01:08:20 like a lot of child development, people were saying like, if your kids are going to watch TV, like put the captions on. Because at least they'll be reading when they very passively begin reading. It's not a bad thing to do. That's what I did instead of sending my kids to school for the past couple of years. Signed, felt, re-runs over and over.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Signed, felt, re-runs over and over. Yeah, I mean, apparently Game of Thrones was a big... People have looked at... There was a huge uptick in people who just leave the subtitles on for Game of Thrones because it was hard to kind of figure out, okay, that person is actually different from that guy with the white beard. Those are somehow different people. Should have had that for Mare of Easttown.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Right. Yeah. They actually had to this would also be really helpful for christopher nolan movies oh my god i feel like he intentionally fucks up the sound he does movies he does i couldn't hear a word of tenant right yeah so there's a there was a theater in milwaukee that just made it exclusively open caption screenings because it was so hard to understand. Yeah. It's impossible. It's really that fucked up?
Starting point is 01:09:33 It's so. Have you seen it? It's so impossible. The music is so loud. The action is so loud when they're talking. Oh, right, right, right. The mix, it's terrible. Wow.
Starting point is 01:09:42 I literally thought something was wrong with my TV. Right. This has been since Bane in Dark Knight Rises they kept having to fuck with the mix because it was just completely off and nobody could understand what he was saying.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Dunkirk was fucking violent. The sound in that was aggressive and damaging. and then now apparently tenant is you just can't hear it you're like i don't i don't know what's happening at all to be fair nobody knows what's going on in that movie so right right of it made sense right but you would think that you would make sure people could understand the words that people were saying. But that's sort of the experience that I wanted you to have.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Sort of this disorienting situation where you're not quite sure what's happening. Well, I walked out because I didn't know what was happening. I was just going to say we should watch Tenet, but we are watching for this week.
Starting point is 01:10:45 I guess it'll be tomorrow's episode or Monday's episode. We'll talk about a Netflix show recommended by super producer Anna Hosnier called We Are the Champions. So if anybody wants to watch that with us and talk about it, we'll talk about it on Anna's Streaming Corner on Monday's episode. Give you a couple of days with that. Well, guys, this has been so fun having you on the show. Where can people find you and follow you,
Starting point is 01:11:12 Melissa? You can follow me at on Twitter. I'm at Melissa Stetton and Instagram and whatever. And then web crawlers, our podcast about like mysteries and true crime and cults and stuff. It's that web crawlers pod on Twitter. And then just search web crawlers our podcast about like mysteries and true crime and cults and stuff it's at web crawlers pod on twitter and then just search web crawlers on the internet ali where can people find you and follow you on twitter i am online allison a-l-i-s-o-n and on instagram i am ali baby 90 it was my first aol screen name. I don't consider myself baby.
Starting point is 01:11:47 But yeah, that's... And then WebCrawler's podcast on Spotify, iTunes, wherever podcasts are. Wait, you're AllieBaby90 from AOL? Oh my God. It's so good to finally meet you. God. It's so good to finally meet you. And is there a tweet you guys have been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:12:12 It's so random. It's from Sean O'Connor. And it said, there is a skeleton in the movie Coco with some big ass naturals. My question is how? I've been thinking about that tweet for a week and it just is so funny to me that is so he's so good
Starting point is 01:12:33 mine is from noah garfinkel and it's uh yoda is short for your dad. Your dad. So good. Shout out to Noah. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey. Also, if you want to talk 90 Day, check out the other podcast for 20 Day Fiance,
Starting point is 01:13:01 where, you know, we get high talking 90 Day. You like 90 Day Fiance? We like 90 Day Fiance. Well, then let's, we might have to 90 day. You like 90 day fiance? We like 90 day fiance. Well, then let's, we might have to have a side combo after this. And a tweet that I like is from Onoshi Twittent, at Onoshi Twittent, the volatile mermaid, and tweeting, so Governor Pete Ricketts of Nebraska, I believe, he tweeted something, he said, critical race theory is an attack on our country's core values. And she sort of quote tweeted that with the picture of Regina from Mean Girls. He says, so you agree. You think our country's core value is racism, which is just like, yeah, that's that's kind of what's happening when these people say this out loud.
Starting point is 01:13:39 You're like, so you get that you're so really the the whole argument is we want to hide the racist history okay you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien uh tweet i've been enjoying bailey moon tweeted god removed the mcrib from the menu so ronald mcdonald could suck his own dick uh and then shireen lani eunice shHero666 tweeted who wrote this about me and it's a Reductress headline that says, yikes! This woman made a self-deprecating joke then friends started consoling her.
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Starting point is 01:14:37 as well as a song we think you should go check out. Miles, what is a song we think the people should hear? miles what is the song we think the people should hear they should check out a track called feel like by this artist aaron may and it's got like this it starts off feeling like something you know your aunts and uncles are listening to at a family you know outing or some shit starts smooth but it has like a a smooth jazz track B soul vibe to it. And I just love like this sort of convergence of many different styles, but it's very easy to listen to. So yeah,
Starting point is 01:15:11 check that out. Feel like by Aaron may. All right. Well, the daily zeitgeist is a production of I heart radio for more podcasts from my heart radio, visit the I heart radio app, Apple podcast,
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