The Daily Zeitgeist - Dating Darwinism, Referendums FTW? 08.12.22

Episode Date: August 12, 2022

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August 12, 2022. My name is Miles Gray. Oh, wait, shit. It's August 12th. I got to let you know. It's National Julianne Fries Day. And that's not a famous actor. We're talking about Julianne Cutt Fries.

Yes. French fries. Thin. Maybe call them shoestrings. National Middle Child Day. National Vinyl Record Day. I identify with two of the three. I love thin fries. fries. I'm an only

child, so miss me with that. And I love vinyl records because, as you know, my whole thing is when the solar flares hit, vinyl will be king because you will not be able to use your computer, okay? How about you, Dan? Amen. I love a good vinyl record. I love a little licorice pizza, as it were. You're the

oldest. You're the eldest child, aren't you? I am the eldest, yes. There's no middle. It's simply me and my little sister. Pliny the elder. Well, good to have you. My name is Miles Gray, a.k.a. Bar with the blimp, the blimp, the blimp, blimpy, blimpy, blimpy, blimpy, blimpy, said upjump the blimpy.

Okay, shout out to Hannah Rand McVue. I know that's you, Hannah Soltis. Always a pleasure seeing you on the Discord. Yeah, I'm still fucking with blimps. A few people have hit me up i think in germany they're like my town has a blimp but it is very expensive to ride i'm like would you like to come out here i'm like yeah fuck it like if it's guaranteed blimpery please let me know uh but i am also thrilled to be joined as always you know this last week has been it wild one. Daniel, he's here. DJ Daniel, one of the greatest human beings, producers, video gamers, DJs, producers of music and podcasts alive.

Yes, I already said your name, so it doesn't even matter. DJ Daniel, good man! Happy to be here, a.k.a. still R.L. Daniel, rooting for my boy, little Daniel, the best 15 year old rocket league player in the world. You're going to win it this year, buddy. I believe in you. That's a real person or that's you.

Yeah. His name is Daniel. And he, he's literally, you know, how every, every person in e-sports has some like very, you know,

e-sports, he kind of name it's, it's, it's, it's like faker or it's like, yeah. Or it's, you know,

sword slayer or something like that sword art this guy's name is literally just daniel i love it i feel kinship yes and i got a root for him and he's 15 he's this little kid killing it you can barely see over the desk when he plays and it's like so adorable so i love when people absolutely disrespect like the trend of like the naming convention for a given genre and And someone just comes in wild aggressive. They're like sword slayer. I'm like, I'm little Danny. I'm Daniel.

Fuck with me. Get served this L. Okay. Get served. I love that. I was like, happy to be here. When I was,

when I was like making beats and stuff, I was trying to earn like emceeing. I was going to use the name Teddy Aiken. Cause I was some kid who went to my school and I was like, everybody's like has a real nickname. I was like, I should just be Theodore Aiken. See where the fuck it goes. Oh, right. I like it.

Anyway, enough about us and our failed music careers. Let's move on to very successful people, which are our guests today. Yes. Or maybe you want to hear more about our failures in music. That could be a whole other podcast. But these two are the founders of the mashup Americans, a media company and boutique creative studio. Maybe you've heard some of their work. They've made podcasts with Peloton.

I'm on the bike. Maybe, you know, Reese Witherspoon. I've heard of her, or maybe you've heard of their latest, the latest podcast, love and Norebang.

Please welcome. Oh, a very special guest, two guests today, Amy Choi and Becca Lehrer! Woo! Hey, hey, hey, welcome. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. We're here. What's up? Crowd goes wild.

Wow, it feels really good to be here. I'm ready for some blimp talk, dirigible talk. I mean, the blimpery, the blimpery. Yes, of it all. Yeah. Thank you so much. I feel like this is language that can be applied to a lot of things. Like, there's a lot of things in the world that are blimpery.

Yes. You just look at something. Yes. Okay. What blimpery? Or like something that blimpery. We live in the age, too, of like gigantic foods and things because we live in America. And you can refer to like an oversized food thing. You're like, that some blimpery that's some blimpery or just also like people

talking too much just like the over bloated and just look at that blimp not anything we're doing here obviously not at all every word is the opposite of blimpering yes no hot air here no all the fat has been trimmed thank you wait i have a question though about germany do we think that in germany there are that's there's like a higher concentration of dirigibles than there are in the u.s as we know there's only 25 right in the u.s something important oh wait 25 in the world wait yes yes 25 is it just because like feels very war war zeppelin i don't know i mean that's probably their shit you know what i mean like they're like yeah of course we got the last couple blimps not letting people appropriate our

dirigible culture have you seen the movie up yes but that's a yeah i've only seen the beginning and i got really bummed out oh it's a sad it's sad and did have to explain miscarriages to my six and three-year-old the other day because of the beginning montage but no the no there's a whole dirigible situation in it not oh i'm not joking i saw the was like, yo, this is too heavy for me. I said, what? There is a little hot butt Japanese kid, though, who is one of the main characters. Yes, Russell. You're missing out.

I was completely... Huge mistake. I was turned off by the tragedy that I missed the representation. Damn. Ain't that something? Amy and Becca, how are y'all? Where are you guys at in the world? Where are you coming to us from?

I am in Los Angeles, my hometown. Let's go. Yes. I am a Los Angeles supremacist. So I'm very happy to be here with another couple. What part of the city are you from? I'm on the east side. I grew up in Los Feliz.

And I still live on the east side. I live in Atwater Village. So city are you from? I'm on the east side. I grew up in Los Feliz. And I still live on the east side. I live in Atwater Village. So what about you guys? I'm from North Hollywood. Yes. And I stay Valley with it. I'm 818. Oh, I did all of my education in the Valley.

Oh, yes. 818. Oh, yeah. It's no ho. It's no ho all day. Yeah, we know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's no ho. It's no ho all day. Okay. Yeah, yeah. We know. We know. No ho blimpery.

No ho. Yeah, no ho blimpery. Channel? I am a West Hollywood, Hancock Park, Windsor Square, K-Town kind of person. Oh, yes. And I have stayed in the area. I'm a mere Frisbee throw away from the lovely Pan Pacific Park. Hopefully, that's not too revealing for anybody,

but there's a lot of neighborhoods around here. And people can throw Frisbees many varying distances too. Thank you. Not me. I can throw it very far. But yes, I'm so glad to hear that. Let's just assume that I can throw a Frisbee like a half mile to really not narrow down where I actually am. Okay.

We don't want this court to find you. No, no, no. They're already, they're tracking me. Amy, how about you? Where are you at? Oh my God. Well, now I'm worried about Daniel getting doxxed, but I am in Brooklyn. Okay.

Where I- 718, Sandow. In the 718. I am in, I just live just south of Prospect Park, which is the best park in all of New York City. Okay. Nice. But I love L.A.

I'm not, you know, I grew up in Chicago, so I'm like a Midwestern Asian. And then the first time I met like L.A. Asians, I was like, what are these alien species? Why is everybody so cool? It's too much. Like all the girls rolled up into college with like their red lipstick and their eyebrows. And I was like, right.

I love L.A. My husband is mexican and colombian so when our family spends time in los angeles yeah we're just like koreans and mexicans we belong oh yeah yes like this is our home and you were like what you you gave me credit you're like wait it's pronounced right i'm like in la like you can't fuck up pronouncing spanish korean like russian armenian thai you know then those are like you know yeah respect the dialects of la as i call them a lot of people um all right well we're gonna get to know y'all even better but first we're gonna tell people uh what we're gonna be covering today we're gonna actually have super producer trisha mccurdy back uh to tell us a little bit about voter referendums in light of what we saw in Kansas.

The voters there said, yes, we like rights. We like health care. We like body autonomy. So she'll be giving us a little bit more insight into voter referendums. And then we'll talk about the struggle for coitus on the right. I'm so happy they're struggling. Struggle for coitus on the right. Struggle for coitus. I'm so happy they're struggling. I mean, look, you know it's a problem when we see constant be like, we need an app to solve this. And I'm like, wow, okay, all right. The Uber for coitus.

Look, I'm here for dating Darwinism to play out. You know what I mean? Just see how that goes. But anyway, before all of that, we got to ask our guests. Amyy becca what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are oh wow it says a lot but i would say my most recent google search is what is in ranch water oh yeah like the the canned ranch water oh canned ranch water because I didn't know about it until two weeks ago. And I have consumed, I would say, hundreds of ounces of ranch water. They come in tall boys. In a tall boy, a Topo Chico ranch water.

And then I realized I'm a type of person, which is that I'm a 40-year-old woman. And so maybe I was late to the hard seltzer game because like since mike's large lemonade or whatever it was or what was zima i i haven't been back there and i know people are talking about white cloth i'm sorry i understand that the zeitgang is i'm delayed but then suddenly i like, do I need ranch water in my life? And the answer is I do. And I want to share that with all with you. That's my most recent Google search.

What is it? It is tequila, Topo Chico and a little bit of coffee. Simple syrup or. Yeah. Oh, so it is. So they can it with tequila because I thought you have to like label it differently. You know, here's a question. Yeah. In fact, it definitely has alcohol in it. So it is tequila. So they can it with tequila because I thought you have to like label it differently. You know, here's the question. It definitely has alcohol in it.

Yeah. But it's the can. Let me tell you. But it says tequila flavor. And so like, what is that? I don't know. You know, I just said like. We like to call it vibes water.

We've been calling it vibes water. Yes. Love it. And our kids were like, what are mommy and Tia Becca drinking? And we were like,es water. We've been calling it Carpentaria. Love it. And our kids were like, what are mommy and Tia Becca drinking? And we were like, vibes water.

Yeah. We were just having tall boys of vibes water. Yeah. Real good. Agua de vibe. Agua de vibe. Si.

Si. Si. Yeah. Please. Los vives. Dejame tranquila. Oh my God. But yeah. Oh, shout out to the the texan uh super producer becca saying it's ranch water based on the actual cocktail look that's how we get things in la things might be start off places we're like

when does it when does topo chico can it for us yes correct i my husband did make me thank you becca other becca for that because he did make me in a real one the other day uh we spent a lot of time researching yes ranch anyways that's me amy what is your most recent hold on hold on i'm the host here go on about this ranch water i'm just drunk right now it's friday morning well we've had a few ranch waters um my most recent or one of my most recent i'll say because i came across a tweet and the thing that like soothes my mind because i'm kind of at the end of the day always looking for some sort of light lobotomy like a diet lobotomy to calm myself down at the end of the day. Yeah. Healing lobotomy.

And I saw a tweet from the New York city park service, which had a picture of a squirrel, like on its belly, all four limbs splayed out. And it said that don't worry about city squirrels. If you see them like this, because they do this to cool down and it's called splooting. Splooting? Splooting. S-P-L-l-o-o-t-i-n-g

and i was like that's not real yeah and i googled it but it's true it's what like furry four-legged animals do when they get hot so like you might see your dog splooting right yeah i've seen i've seen the little pupper sploot yeah for sure spl sure. Splooting is a thing. And I was like, but it just gave me great joy. What's the etymology of sploot? Well, because I think that splooting is, what is the thing when it sounds like what it is? Onomatopoeia? Onomatopoeia. Uh-huh.

Sploot. It's a sploot. Yeah. Sploot. You just sploot it. It's like a blimp. It's not a sploot. It's like a blimp.

It ain't a sploot. It's a sploot. It's a sploot. It's a sploot. It's a sploot. It's much more graceful, I feel like. A sploot is different than a sploot. A sploot is much more graceful. I feel like a sploot is different than a splat. A splat is violent. A sploot is elegant.

A sploot in between. The sploot is in between. Oh, that was poetry. Welcome to our new podcast, Split, Splat, Sploot. If anybody needs to do a little sploot later, I won't judge you. It's hot. It's summer. We're doing climate things are happening i was like god might need to take me because i'm just splooting

all over the place but you also were googling dew point something we didn't know was a measurement until like three weeks ago in new york city because when there was like the new york city dew point is is now we might all die yes right i still don't understand what dew point is i did a lot of googling but it's basically something about about to do that light bulbs and like when it's too humid for sweat to evaporate or something anyway the dew point in la is usually like always perfect and the dew point in new york in july it turns out is no bueno so but the dew point is leading me to sploot is what I'm saying here. Right. Okay.

So that just makes you feel how humid it really feels. It's more like a measure of how we experience it, right, with the higher dew point as a function of humidity. Yes. It's like when growing up in Chicago, that was a big thing. It's like, oh, it's 40 degrees outside, but it feels like seven. I was like, then it's seven degrees. Right. Why does it matter that you're telling me it's 40? Why are you telling me this?

Why is this even a thing? They're like, I mean, it's 85, but with the dew point, it's going to feel like 93. And you're like, then what does the first number have to do with anything? I don't want to be so self-centered, but it's essentially how do i feel is what only thing i care about regarding temperature thank you yes i wish like the weather would just be an outfit that's correct you know like i don't need to know i don't really need to know like if you just show me it's tank top and sandal i go oh it's fucking hot if there's no tank top i'm like wait it's so hot we have to be nude okay but i can and then maybe add by the different times of day it's like you need to add a layer it has right or that you need to add oh like we're gonna start off flip-flop sandal we're gonna get to sleeve t-shirts by midday

yeah and then you know see that through the rest of the night a shawl yeah what do men do instead of a shawl hmm what can't we do instead of a shawl? Hmm. What can we do instead of a shawl? Because I don't see like, you know, like I feel like in L.A. There's always a throw on of the cardigan or the big scarf. Oh, yeah. Just hoodies. Yeah. Hoodies.

Yeah. I got a couple of light jackets. Like some windbreaker type things. Does L.A. have fall guy? Like, you know, it's like pumpkin spice girl. We do. But it's mostly people like us who grew up here who have never had seasons. So like we're the meme of like when people are like, oh, when it's 68 in L.A. and somebody's got like a puffer jacket on.

Yeah. But shorts. But shorts. Yeah. But shorts. Yeah, exactly. I'll wear shorts, a North Face and a beanie if I have to or a toque for my Canadian listeners out there. Shout out toques.

A beanie, if I have to, or a toque for my Canadian listeners out there. Shout out toques. Also, quickly, before we get started with everything, I want to ask about Mashup Americans. I said, what? Mashup Americans? And you talk about it. You are a Mashup American. I know. Your guide to, as you say, hyphen America.

Let people know kind of like what the sort of thrust is of your company, because I think it is very relatable for many people who live in this country. Yeah, we are an independent media company, and we started off telling stories about race, culture and identity in America. The company came about because we were looking around at ourselves and all of our friends, like immigrant kids, first and second generation, like in relationships or just like in deep friend groups where everybody came from a different culture but what really bound us was that we were all people that were navigating multiple cultures and we really believe and have leaned into this belief and have been proven right time and time again that all all great culture great ideas great art great leadership and great creativity

comes from these margins where people are navigating multiple areas, are really fluid with their thinking, and being proven right, being on this show, and looking at you, Miles. Oh, okay. Well, thank you, Nolte. I know. Well, look at you and your pronunciation.

A lot of payola. A lot of payola to get here. Oh, I paid that 50K to get on here. I know. Hey, shout out to my crypto, Zytecoin. Zytecoin, y'all, get in. It's not a rug pull. I swear to God, it's not a rug pull.

Yeah, not getting rugged, promise. But for legal reasons, I have to say it is a rug pull. But now that you know, walk around and find out. Moving on, what is something you both think is underrated? I think underrated for me is food in strip malls. I think underrated for me is food, food and strip malls. And I think in Los Angeles, that's the best food that there is, period. And I've been watching Street Food, that Netflix show. And the L.A. episode, I literally wept because it was a celebration of, you know, food and strip malls are on the street.

And it was just joy that the dollar what is it um dollar meats what's that like this that's literally what it is you get meat for a dollar uh and but uh yeah strip malls strip mall food is just glorious hard to agree this is this is this is just speaking straight to my heart. I could not feel this more so. And I appreciate you for bringing it up. Because there's, oh my goodness. There's a cultural, there's a cultural, not even. He's getting fired up.

I'm sorry. I just love this shit so much. But like, there's a very light cultural touchstone for this. But it's from a terrible, terrible, terrible movie. Did anybody see that horrible Zac Efron electronic music movie, We Are Your Friends? Yeah. Because there's a scene in that movie. There's like, you know how people will make like a story point about something that's like a growing up movie and it's like, but we all did this thing.

And then that becomes a story point later in the movie. Right. That thing in that movie is the best sushi is at a strip mall in North Hollywood. And I, A, I agree with that. But B, that movie should not be the cultural touchstone for that statement we need to make that Becca right now you saying that

this is the moment of the Daily Zeitgeist is the moment where we say respect to our strip mall restaurants because they are so good thank you so much I will give a shout out to a documentary from a couple years ago which was about jonathan gold who is oh yeah great

classic yeah city of gold which actually follows him across la like basically i i can't remember if it's like pico or olympic but taking it across the city and going to all these different neighborhoods and food places and just just 100 and just yeah it's joyful what's your favorite spot to eat in a strip mall in la um wow what a question what a moment oh man all right i have two answers because i because how the hell can i not okay one of my favorite sushi places is in the corner of strip mall it's literally like in the corner spot it uh used to be called Heroes and Gourmet, but now it is called, they changed the name over the pandemic. Matsumoto. Matsumoto.

Orlando and Beverly. It's really good. But the other one is Sky's Tacos. Sky's Tacos is fusion soul food and- You're talking about on Jefferson? On Pico. On Pico. That's, yes. I know what you're talking's yes i know what you're talking about i know what you're talking about they have yes okay soul food mexican fusion yeah their crawfish tacos what untouchable they are so good crawfish tacos with the sassy sauce

i will be there after this thank you so. I could not recommend that taco highly enough. It is so incredible. Please go enjoy. Local business. It is, you know, very local LA people, family run. I could not be a bigger fan of Sky's Tacos. And it's just snuck in there on Pico. It's a great burger.

Thank you so much. That's where it is. Very good. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Great food abounds. Amy, how about you? What is something you think is underrated?

Something I think that is underrated is like doing things really badly and just enjoying them but doing them. I feel like there's so much like hustle or like, oh, I like to make arts and crafts. And then somebody's like, you guys just sell that on Etsy. I don't know. That's like what people used to say. Or, or you know I came up as like a writer and then it was like well so how do you monetize whatever and I was just like you know what doing things real bad but like having fun while doing them is the actual awesomest thing yeah like that's always like my like any sport or any activity this is something that I feel like was super important for Love and Nodibang, actually.

Because it's actually no fun if somebody is a great singer. Right. You're supposed to suck. You're supposed to just go out there and sing. It's vibes water in a Nodibang. Whatever the vibes water of choice is in the Nodibang. But I think it is so essential to go. For me, it's Makweli and height height oh yeah yeah little height height is the best a lot of makgeolli

though i love makgeolli me too you know you can now they come in great little seltzeried like slightly carbonated cans uh-huh you can get all kinds of flavor the other thing that they're selling now is you know those little like yogurts that come in the little plastic with the red um mixing that with soju yeah yeah yeah like the one-to-one shop wait are we starting a canned drink company together i think so okay just we need to cut this part out of the episode these are fucking these are gold these ideas are gold yeah i like you're underrated because basically what it is it's like remember play yeah having fun yeah yeah everything is too high stakes or like in the pursuit of like commodifying our skills or something like that when like like to your point like i think for most people the last

time you did something not good and didn't give a shit was when you're a kid because you are playing and you're not doing something to like assess your abilities and i think that's like a really important thing it's like you lose sight of just having fun rather than is this an assessment of what i can do and like that's a whole other fucking or like should we be spending time doing this like is this a valuable pursuit or like am i being the most efficient or productive or like maxing out on this i'm like no just do some just like just do it just do it in your brain it's very hard i mean like are you being efficient oh i hate being efficient except i am all the time because i'm programmed also i think that's the thing about being a mash-up and being an immigrant kid is that like you just like achieve achieve

achieve and so being bad at something is not something that like you're raised to do no it's no are you kidding me how much fucking money i spend in therapy to be like i don't like to struggle in front of other people and i never will to the point where i will become inert and you because you would start achieving at such a level, you almost like cauterize that a bit like your ability to just do anything. Because you're like, nah, every single thing I have to do has to be out the fucking park. Because I was raised on a steady diet of like, you better fucking do nine times better than everybody else if you're going to get half the shit they get. And then you're like. better than everybody else if you're gonna get half the shit they get and then you're like see the problem with that that i struggle with is i'm like sometimes they're not wrong

and then you're like shit i gotta do 10 times better but it doesn't it like that that reality still shouldn't impact our ability to play never never and that's the thing about representation which uh you're a little hopper Japanese kid in up. And also, Russell, Russell is that we also should be able to be represented to be mediocre. 100%. Like just sometimes people suck out there. And that's also real. Oh, yeah.

Man, the pressure on me to do good at golf or basketball and shit. pressure on me to do good at golf or basketball and shit. Our friend Jenny Yang has a saying for it that she coined called the rep sweats. When you like see one of your own out there and they're not doing good. And you're like, Oh God, just start sweating. Just start sweating.

Just start sweating. I don't know them. I gotta go. Oh, my phone's ringing. I have to leave here. We always call that inside voices too. Like the stuff are in, in inside. You could be like, Oh, my phone's ringing. I have to leave here. We always call that inside voices, too. Like the stuff inside, you could be like, oh, God, they're terrible.

You have to represent. You're like, no, no, they're fine. It's not a big deal. It's good. They're fine. And that's fine for them. That's fine for them. I'm not judging them like I know their parents would be right now.

Not me. I would never judge them. Yeah. Not I. I'm very relaxed. What is something you think is overrated? I would say I think spoilers, like no spoilers are overrated. I like to know what's going to happen at the end.

It helps me relax into watching something. Less tension. Less tension allows me to really embrace the moment. And that's something that Amy and I have to overcome in the nine years of our partnership is that she now her daughter's like me and so i'm like just call me up i'll tell you yes cinderella's gonna get the guy she's gonna get him and there is and then i'm like why are you showing her princess movies and then it's just too late it's too late so that's all i just feel like it's it's overrated not having a spoiler i'm like i want a spoiler that's all. I just feel like it's overrated not having a spoiler.

I'm like, I want a spoiler. That's all. Anyways. Thank you. That's why she loves rom-coms. Love. Oh, yeah. Because they're like, yeah, they're like looking at like a, I don't know, like a Where's Waldo

book. You're like, yeah, I know. Like, sure, the scene is different, but I know Waldo's somewhere in here and it's familiar. Yeah. Like miscommunication. Everyone needs to go to therapy to therapy but they don't then they figure it out they find each other they're in love then they're happy and they're singing a song a karaoke and that is what i'm interested in exploring right now as a human being thank you so much yeah because no one's like i i get like certain things i'm trying to think i remember when i saw the sixth

sense someone was like you know he's dead right before i saw it and i was like what and and it didn't make sense i was like oh my bad you didn't see it and i was like what the fuck's on my mind i was like what is he talking about and then when i watched i was like oh okay that's what's going on but then i wasn't like oh shit like that completely fucked up the thing for me so it like, even like those moments where it feels like that's like the whole fucking, the whole point of watching that. I was still like, okay, that's cool.

Like I'm never mad. Like seeing an art piece, like in a book before seeing it in person. No, thank you so much. Different experiences completely. Thank you for supporting me. And also I get a lot of attention.

I hate the shit out of spoilers, but I'm just saying I get where you're coming. Oh, I'm saying, no, I hate the shit out of spoilers. Oh, no! But I'm just saying, I get where you're coming from. I would like to add to Becca's point real fast also. And I feel like the whole no spoilers conversation comes up super heavy in superhero movie culture and nerd movie culture. And I would just like to say that despite the fact that, sure, you don't want whatever movie spoiled for you, when it comes to superhero movies, what do you think is going to happen? What do you think is going to happen? It's a movie where someone has a 10-movie contract

that they're failing at. You think they're going to lose? You think they're going to lose the fight? They're going to go up against something. It's going to be, oh, no, I almost didn't win. And then they're going to win. Spoiler alert? Thank you.

It also kind of feels like a spoiler alert. Somebody spoiling it is just like, it's just an excuse to get mad. Like just to jump on people and be like, oh, you spoiled the thing. It's like, I feel like it's just, we have so much madness inside of us that we're just trying to find more like rules to put around it. Absolutely. And anybody who like, if it really is that important to your being that things aren't spoiled for you, like anything, if something's important to you, you know how to avoid that shit in your own self-interest. Like, I don't like certain sports scores being like if I have a game recorded.

I know to not fucking look at Twitter. I know to not check people who I've like I talk with about it. They'll be like, are you watching it live? And I say, no, shut the fuck up. And then they know and then i'm fine because i know how to fucking keep my blinders on but i guess for others it's more like i need everything to passively be what i will and any effort is too much because everything was done for me how about you amy what's something you think is overrated i'm

just i think it's i would like everything to be to be done passively the way that I like it. Yes, right now. This is a weird thing to say on a news show. But, and I really am realizing now that I sound like I'm like promoting mediocrity in all areas. But I think it's overrated to be like too on top of current events. There's just too much. I actually, like this is i i have this conversation with my therapist which is just she was like after some you know really horrible stuff that had happened

in our world like in the spring she was like you know reading more about it isn't gonna help like you know what you know and like i think getting every single like news push from like the times or whatever, or being like, I'm totally addicted to Twitter. So I'll be like scrolling all day. And I'm like, Oh, what happened here? Did this happen? And it's just like, it's I don't think it's, it's I don't think it's good for us. No, no. And it's, it's definitely not good for me personally. So I'm just like, okay, it's's okay if i find out something 12 or 24 hours later absolutely like also what does that mean and it's just there's a it's like a weird competition one-upness that i think it happens to a lot of people in media where you're just like i gotta

know the thing i gotta be the first i gotta do this i gotta have my take and then it's just like but do you really like unless you're really gonna add something i'm just kind of like okay let it like maybe it can sit for a while and you can go out and like touch grass and live your life for a second 100 touch grass yeah i mean tg feels important yes g tg please i i totally agree with you i mean like granted i have to i'm i'm on top of everything but there are there are boundaries and limits to how i interact with the news like i'm on top of everything but there are there are boundaries and limits to how i interact with the news like i'm not so what are your what are your big boundaries like how do you stay safe oh i don't i'm not looking at twitter at night i'm not looking i i stop looking at the

news around 3 p.m oh wow yeah unless like shit's blowing up in a text thread and people are like, yo, did you see that? But I'm not, I spend most of my day just getting caught up. And then after that, I'm like, whatever, I'll catch it in the morning. Like, I don't need to know everything. And that's another thing is, I think we all just as humans, we have like a terrible impulse to like ruminate on problems. And so that rumination also extends to like current events where we're like, well, this is how I solve a problem is I think nonstop about it. And then maybe something will appear from me just thinking constantly about it. And typically the only thing I get from that is like dread. So part of it is saying, yeah, okay, that's what happened. I can, I'll that, that,

that, that will stay happening, but i also need to then look out for myself and i think mostly it's really just in the name of like self-care is really connecting the idea that one is actually antithetical to the other like if you want to stay chronically online unless you're built a completely different way chances are you will burn out emotionally at some point yeah i've definitely experienced that for sure. Although I will say last week was the first week where I'm refreshing the Alex Jones verdict. She was so happy. She was just laughing until she cried.

The cheer is out. We were living for that. It was good eating. It was good eating last week. It was good eating this week. Good eating this week, too. I'm like, oh, really? They're like, there's a narc in the MAGA world.

We're like, yeah, of course there is. Wow. Are y'all really the FBI? They're like, first time. Just first time hearing about them. But I've yet to see the GOP evoke COINTELPRO as a reason that we need to move away from the FBI. When will that happen? I don't know

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And we're back. So last week we were talking about the state of Kansas, the voters there. There was a voter referendum there to basically amend the state constitution. They said, yeah, you know what? No one can get an abortion. But luckily, overwhelmingly, that amendment or proposed amendment was defeated. And we were everyone was like, wow, great. I'm glad we're setting a baseline that a majority of people knew what time it was to vote, even though they were very, very intentionally trying to not trick confused voters by putting it during a primary. Because if you're a non-affiliated voter, you might have been like, well, this is like the party primaries. Can I go and vote on this amendment? And because the state has mathematically more Republicans and Democrats are like, this is the perfect time. We'll have more Republicans energized to vote on this.

No one will show up. And guess what? That didn't happen. But to talk a little bit more about referendums, we've got to bring in Trisha Mukherjee. Thank you so much for coming, Super Producer Trisha. How are you? Wow, what a intro. Hello, everyone. How are you? Good to be back. Yeah. What wisdom can you drop on us with your actual journalistic abilities rather than my over-caffeinated screams I do. Oh my gosh, no. I love listening to your over-caffeinated screams.

Please don't. But please do. No, I'm serious. Okay, so like everyone else, I was watching and reading about the results of the referendum in Kansas. Basically what happened, as you said, Miles, was that there is an amendment proposed to the Constitution to basically ban abortion. And the voters came in and they basically said no. It was an unambiguous rejection of this amendment that would ban abortion. And 58% of people voted no. So that's quite a lot, considering how close elections usually are. And one of the reasons that this referendum may have gone through, it's a little hard to say this for sure, but perhaps representatives expected low voter turnout and an easy passage of the amendment.

And it turns out that's not what happened, thankfully. So anyway, watching this, I was kind of intrigued. I was basically just curious, what is the power of referendums now that Roe v. Wade has been overturned and a lot of abortion rights is up to the states? Do we have hope using referendums to perhaps minimize the damage of the Supreme Court decision. Now, thinking of states like Kansas, a lot of people on the coasts might kind of give up on them because, you know, we call a lot of these states flyover states. We don't really pay a ton of attention to them. We think of them as maybe a lost cause for causes like abortion. And Kansas does lean Republican. It does lean conservative. Prior to 2020, it voted for a Democrat for president only once in 70 years. So the fact that voters in Kansas turned out and said,

we do want to preserve abortion in our state, makes us think like, how can this play out in other states? And how can we use referendums which actually are more democratic than our current systems of Supreme Court justices who are just like nine people who are totally out of touch with the actual world or politicians who take money? You know, like these political creatures that are funded by the darkest interests. And they're like, yeah, that's a judge who we think has good judgment or at least knows what team they're on. Right. Yeah. Like this is totally fair. Right. No, not at all. So I started looking into, you know, what would happen if we had a referendum at a national level? And that answer was really clear. We just wouldn't have an abortion ban because 65% of voters support abortion rights in the U.S. Now, if we go a little bit further down to the state level, according to an analysis

by the New York Times, if all the states were given a referendum about abortion, only seven states would vote to significantly restrict abortion. And so that number, seven states, is compared to 26 states that are predicted to roll back abortion after the Supreme Court decision, which is a huge difference. That's like 40% of the total country's states that are only potentially rolling back abortion rights because the people don't get a direct voice. It is those vested political interests making decisions. So in reality, can we rely on referendums? The short answer is yes, but also no. I was hoping you could have just said yes.

I wish. That was clean. Okay. I love that. Wouldn't that be simple? End of story. Right. But so in the U.S., there's 26 states which have referendum processes. Most of them are in the western part of the country, so not really any of the East Coast states. And a lot of those states that do have the referendum processes are the ones where abortion might be restricted after Roe v. Wade was overturned. So some of those states are

Arizona, Utah, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Missouri, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and a few more. And in fact, referendum is actually going to be in play because four states have put abortion directly on the ballot in November. And those ones are California, Michigan, and Vermont. Those are going to ask voters whether to affirm the right to abortion. And Kentucky, good old old Kentucky is going to ask voters if they want to reject the right to abortion so definitely if you're in those states make sure to vote that is super super important on that referendum and I mean is I know referendums to be a slippery slope you know because in California there's we have the ballot proposition process where either we do see a lot of things that can feel like uh positive legislative opportunities but really can be

bankrolled again by money and interest exactly so in that sense it we we do also have to contend with just sort of like the double-edged sword of how these operate as well, right? Exactly. Yeah. I mean, one great example of that is Brexit, just looking across the pond. We do not want Brexit to happen again. And you can just imagine throughout history, if we had referendums for all these big moral issues, how much hateful law would be embedded into our state and federal constitutions. So it's definitely not an end-all, be-all. But in some cases, such as in abortion, especially where so many people are against abortion restrictions, it does hold a lot of power.

And maybe I can give you one example of that, which is in Ireland. So back in 1983, a lot of people in Ireland were getting kind of freaked out because in the rest of the world, policies are becoming very liberal towards abortion. And a lot of these Catholic leaders are like, no, we don't want that. Let's amend the Constitution ASAP right now. And they did. So we can't ever quantify just the pain and suffering that came from that constitutional amendment. just the pain and suffering that came from that constitutional amendment.

But what we do have was this one case that really overturned public opinion. It was a woman named Savita Halapanavar who lived in Ireland. She was admitted to the hospital 17 weeks pregnant, and she was basically having a miscarriage. And she was getting infected. She was really suffering health-wise. And her health was declining very fast. But because the doctors could still hear the fetal heartbeat, they couldn't help her at all.

They couldn't just basically induce or perform an abortion, even though they knew that it was already a miscarriage and that the pregnancy was lost. And so they were just, she and her husband were waiting in the hospital for a few days, just in severe pain. And in the end, she died because by the time the fetal heartbeat couldn't be detected anymore, her body had been infected. And, you know, this is such a tragic case. We talk about how people should be allowed to have abortions for whatever reason, Just the fact that you don't want a kid is simply enough. But when you hear about cases like this, it's like, fuck, this is really bad. Compounds the tragedy. Yeah, for sure. So then there is a referendum in Ireland and there's this new wave of activism that really,

really surged up in efforts to repeal the Eighth Amendment, which was the one that banned abortion. And after a lot of campaigning, the amendment was repealed with a vote of 66 percent. And this is a huge victory because if it was just up to elected representatives, maybe the life of a fetus would still get priority over the life of the parents. I think it's just really the conversation in the US. It's wild how much we're already kind of hearing the human cost of the Dobbs decision already. And I think in the United States, we're always wondering what will it take for people to actually understand what's at stake here? Because it always it's sort of like this pattern of like,

well, that's this other group. It couldn couldn't possibly be me and then even when there are stories that are real people are like very quick to be like that couldn't have happened that's not real that's too horrific for me to believe and i don't want my beliefs to align with a reality like that but i think what is great and i think was really heartening, like as is the case in Kansas was the referendums like they they offer people an opportunity to voice their concern or their support for something. And a lot of the times it goes against sort of like the accepted wisdom where people are like, Kansas is a red state. It's never going to happen. Where meanwhile, when you really look, it's a very vital place for many people in the South and Midwest to have abortion, safe abortion access as well. And yeah, I think it also helps us realize that there are these like talking points that come out of political parties, but there are certain things that are just

accepted across the board where a majority of the millions of people that live here are like, no, no, no, I believe bodily autonomy is like an inalienable right. Or I believe that people should, no matter who you want to marry, if you're happy and you are married, whatever you want to define that as, please go ahead. But yeah, like I think to the point that we're sort of making here is this potential way to explore more ways for people to be able to support these kinds of broader issues that we all seem to agree on. Yeah, exactly. Because, right, if you think about the origin of our current political system, like we go back to the founding fathers and basically they're saying, oh, anyone who's not a man, anyone who's not white, anyone who doesn't own property and isn't educated shouldn't have a voice. Like those are the people who we need to somehow suppress. And that's why they chose the elected representative system versus direct democracy, which would be

more of a referendum type thing. So, yeah. Yeah. Can't have direct democracy here because then they'd be like, what? They don't like being poor and exploited and want better outcomes for themselves and their families. Hey. Can't do that here. Well, Trisha, thank you so much for stopping by with some more reporting and opening our eyes a little bit further. Always appreciate you. Of course. Thanks for having me.

Oh, of course. Of course. And we'll be right back to talk a little bit about the MAGA dating scene after this. Talk a little bit about the MAGA dating scene after this. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.

Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive me for I have followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen

again. Listen to forgive me for I have followed on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Santer. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote.

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A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. Segregation academies. When civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that.

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Republicans. Dating. Not a thing. Really, I guess. not a thing uh really i guess uh if you are a really sad fascist this week and you are just devastated by the news that law enforcement occasionally comes for rich white people

and you're single this week may not be all bad actually because that's right uh as if no one fucking asked because they didn't former white house House press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany's sister. Okay. Ryan. She's out here. How many N's? You got to spell it. There we go.

You know, look. I got seven N's because it's like, and this is our daughter, Ryan. She's out here hawking a new product for single magas and we've we saw this teased before because peter teal was investing in this dating platform called uh the right stuff you know because all of us are down with new kids on the block and we can get that cool reference but he's backing it. Oh, yeah. Bingo. But yes, this is like so Peter Thiel has been investing in this. And this is another app in a long line of failed dating apps that's tailored to bigots.

And we've we talk about this every time they come up. I remember in the beginnings when the Trump administration first began, there were all these like pieces that were like, what it's like to be a Republican trying to date in the Beltway. Those was my favorite genre, though, because then they would say and then the person saw on, you know, on Tinder or whatever that I I'm a Republican or work in the Trump administration. And they dumped me. And I was like, yeah, that is a joy. This is joyful. This is like my Twitter bio said, Mexicans are bad. They took a problem with that. And they said, I'm racist.

I don't understand. I deserve to be loved, too, even though my whole personality is built on dehumanizing others. But there was this one app called Writer. Okay, R-I-G-H-T-E-R. And their tagline was, quote, when you're tired of getting swiped left on for your political beliefs, use Writer. Okay. Fine. Then there was Donaldators, if you remember.

Donaldators. Really? Yes. The founder said this, the need that they said, quote, I saw a real need for this. People who go on the mainstream apps, they're told if you're a Trump supporter, swipe left. That app's data got fucking hacked like three days after launching. And it was a total embarrassment. If you look, these accounts like their Twitters have they've like haven't been active since like 2019.

So it's definitely a struggle out there for the racists. And, you know, I don't feel for them, but I understand the investment opportunity for people like Peter. But it's just, it's very definitely hard in this dating scene. And it's, again, like I'm saying, we're all about vibes. It's almost like when your whole identity is like, these are non-humans. These are non-humans these are

non-humans that's not a that's not a fuckable vibe i'm sorry for most very very unfuckable and i get other people might be like i am also backwards and hate but i have a feeling those couples aren't really gonna i don't think a relationship there's a deep connection there yeah more underlying issues i just wish them nothing like i feel like they shouldn't be allowed to buy apple products they shouldn't be like whenever i see like a republic like ivanka wearing an apple watch i'm like you shouldn't be allowed to have nice things oh yeah i just feel like they should not be allowed to have anything i have a very really rich fantasy about what happens in through punishment like turning all the trump

buildings into house housing for homeless folks public housing and all the and all the golf courses into parks and you know all that they're just a very rich it's rich and he has to watch it all take over yeah he has to watch it all from jail but uh that that being said i i wish i i wish them no love and no and i also i'm assuming that has a horrible design interface and somehow is like a terrible uh experience okay well guess what bad ui uh the ui looks pretty dope you want to know how I know? Because I'm watching the promo video and you're going to have to watch a part of it too right now. What? Listen in because here's Ryan McEnany.

Ryan with nine N's. There's two N's. Oh my goodness. Out here. This is kind of like a chopped up version of the ad. What is she wearing? What's happening? It's a straight jacket. It is like a... I don't know. What do do you call that like a biker yeah anyway check her out and this is her kind of giving you a pitch on why you should go to

hateration the dater app or whatever guys i'm ryan i've got to tell you about something i am so excited to announce a dating app for all of us conservatives. It's called The Right Stuff. It's launching this September. What I love most about it is that it's invite only. Not just anyone can join. First of all, it's free to use. This looks like a tampon ad. You'll never have to pay. For my ladies, you'll never have to pay.

We all get premium subscriptions. We're simply inviting a couple friends. Gentlemen, if you want access to premium, that's on you. That's on you, fam. Those are the only two options ladies and gentlemen that's a stock photo i did a google image search by building your perfect profile no pronouns necessary okay also is access to premium a euphemism a sexy euphemism i like how they run it like a shitty nightclub where it's like ladies in free before nine as

long as the ratios are good fellas thirst outside and then come in and be insufferable because the discrepancy between who pays and who doesn't is only adding to your hatred of women. I don't know. Here's my thing about things like this. It's like a question. Like, why? Why aren't they embarrassed? Like, why is this a thing that that that people are doing publicly because they're so proud of being on you have to lean into it attractive you have to lean into it right because you will never see like i mean you see

republicans they do the victim thing when it like serves them but in this instance they can't just say this is so fucked up just because all of my values don't align with a majority of other people out there looking for a romantic partner doesn't mean i have to suffer and it's easier to say guess what we're all pieces of shit and that's fine welcome to piece of shit dater.com yeah we're like everyone's a piece of shit so you're never gonna have to hear about why you're a piece of shit yeah that's like the whole you, safe space mentality of this. It's just to lean into it and say nothing's wrong with what we believe. But also, I also feel like in our, you know, I have friends who, so we're in New York and LA.

Friends outside of Chicago, say, who are trying to date. And every, everybody who pops up is like, and I wish there was a Novaks sticker you could have. up is like and i wish there was a novax sticker you could have or they're like somebody in like a i can't say problematic shirts of yeah and it's all like it's all like a completely conservative and he's actually struggling to find somebody who's not like that so i think it's it's so contextual too it's this victimization piece which is that's the part where i'm like who i'm sure you could find people in the normal setting if you weren't a piece of shit the recent thing like again i just i i feel like it shouldn't be a surprise to you if your worldview is some people don't deserve shit why you live in a reality where you're experiencing some kind of deficit

of human attention i don't know that might have something to do with on a subconscious level i'm not a fucking guru but i just love my now but like this idea though with like conservatives now like and you know we saw a tough guy ted cruz be like and you know what my pronouns are they're kiss my ass kiss my ass okay asshole let me guess you're so fucking secure in your fucking masculinity. I can only imagine, because pronouns don't exist, how one of these MAGA patriot fuckwads would be if everyone misgendered them with the wrong pronouns. If that would, but they'd be like, and that's fine, man, because that doesn't matter. Because like, fuck pronouns. Like, okay.

Because I would imagine with your very heteronormative worldview that if someone referred to you as oh she's mad over and over are you going to be like that's fine i don't care that doesn't that that completely doesn't even matter to me that's not part of my identity at all because i don't even know what a pronoun is linguistically yeah um do you think that there are any people on rihanna and then i already forgot the name yeah yeah rihanna and then it's app hanging in tough that are not white no i'm sure well the one test person they had herschel walker's son herschel oh yeah well, but I believe, is he not openly gay or is he not gay?

Are we talking about Christian Walker? Yeah, maybe. Oh, that's right. So he's not allowed. Well, I'm not going to speculate, but either way, I'm not sure who is going to be on that app. I mean, I'm sure there are plenty of, as I've seen it myself, plenty of people with self-consuming, inward-focused white supremacy that takes over their mind. So they may be there. And, you know, that's like the coolest person on the app.

Do they get premium access? Not if they have a penis. Sorry, you have to pay with all the other losers. But I think what's another interesting thing is there's analysis, too, about dating, how it's generally it's skewing more like men. They're going to be more lonely men as just like if you're looking very narrowly like cis oh but wasn't it because like your standards are women's standards are going up or just have like more realistic boundaries like not willing to put up with bullshit so then there's like men who are like i was raised like

fucking with no skills of self-awareness also the world is changing around me maybe i can go to my app called caveperson.com my dick is small yeah right if the outcome of all this is we have less shitty dudes thumbs thumbs way up yeah the problem with that though is that i i mean so i'm reading a book right now as as Rebecca knows, it's called The Men. And it is it came out earlier this year. And I believe it's Sandra Newman, Newhouse. I'm so sorry. I'll look it up. So I can I will I'll have it by the end of this. But it's a sci fi about if all the men disappeared one day, every single person with a y chromosome disappeared in the same moment from the face of the earth and also like pregnancies disappeared and like all all y chromosomes disappeared shout out the x6 818 xx um but it's like the idea that all of these shitty men go away is a great one except the problem is that in our world the shitty men don't go away is a great one. Except the problem is that in our world,

the shitty men don't go away. They like band together and because become triply shitty and violent to everybody else. We got to like fix the shitty men. Yeah. But if they're on caveman.com,

then how do we get to them? Caveman.com will hopefully then their technologies won't evolve past sticks and stones. They'll be frightened to death at the sight of a fucking flashlight right and that's how we beat them i'll strike a match yeah exactly like

exactly i'm a demon that you heard about in your cave stories uh well amy and becca thank you so much for joining us today on the daily zeitgeist it's been awesome having you please come back we'd love to talk with y'all more um Where can people find you and follow you and listen to your work? You can find us at Mashup American or mashupamericans.com. And you can find our show, Love and Noribang, our newest show, which is this rom-com with L.A. is the narrator, played by Randall Park, who is another Los Angeles supremacist. It's starring Justin Min and Francia Riza, two other Angelenos. And it's all just about mashup love.

And spoiler alert, it ends happy. So also fellow Bruin Randall Park. Yes, he is. And you can find that anywhere you listen to podcasts so that's that's a little anything else amy love and notabang.com and you can find her at awesome choy i just can't bring myself to do twitter because it might kill me it's all it's all good self-care self-care good for you uh and are there any tweets or uh that you'd like to shout out that you've been enjoying recently oh boy i really enjoyed Beto screaming at the heckler.

You motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah. Funny. I was like, I think that's a, like the energy I need in my life everywhere is just calling somebody out exactly in the moment,

exactly how they should be. And with no, no, like no diplomacy. That's right. Yeah. Amy. Oh,

well, you know, we started off this whole conversation with splooting splooting and and blimpology but uh in that vein my favorite tweet that i've seen recently was of a turtle getting like scrubbed by a veterinarian of all the algae and it's just a turtle like all blissed out like getting scrubbed with a toothbrush and it just really reminded me of my other favorite activity after norebang which is and how bad i need to go and get all the death scrubbed off my body so that's i retweeted it so if you go to awesome choy you'll see it and you'll see the blissfulness of this turtle getting his algae scrub and you'll also see a crab wiping the sand off its eyeballs. I like these little animal videos.

Yeah. I'm going to say. Gives me joy. Gives me joy. Yeah. Well, there's something like it reminds you like I'm watching this turtle video now. It reminds me of being a kid. And your mom's like, let me cut your fingernails.

Yes. And you're like, yeah. She's like, let me clean your ears. And you're like, okay. Oh, my God. Did your moms clean them with a little scoop? The bamboo stick? Hell yeah. Yeah. fingernails yeah and you're like yeah she's like let me clean your ears oh my god did your mom clean them with a little scoop the bamboo stick hell yeah yeah no that's asian mom that's an asian mom if you don't got that bamboo stick with a little down feather at the end yeah you're like what the fuck is that for i don't never my mom never used that and i'm like the fuck is that

for i think it's like for dusting i need to put on game oh maybe well the other thing too is wax styles are different yeah you know what i mean because my mom when she cleaned my ears she'd always be like you got like american people ears because i didn't have like the asian kind of earwax wait miles do you have to wear deodorant oh yeah yeah i got oh you were not blessed are not blessed. I can wear shoes with no socks, though. Oh, that's good. And then I stink them up. Yeah.

So, you know. You're halfway there. I'll get it where I can take it. I'll get it where I can take it. And you best believe I cook using those long-ass kitchen chopsticks. Let me know one time if you got that pair. Okay. Let's see.

Daniel. Yes. My man. Thank you so much for joining me today. I got scared scared a true legend mate uh what uh you know you already know where they find you what's all that what's the tweet you like let them know man you can find me at the same old places on twitter instagram tiktok regrettably at dj underscore daniel d-a-n-l you can find me on twitch twitch.tv

slash dj underscore d-a-n-l wed Wednesdays, Fridays, and Sundays, playing video games, playing Dungeons and Dragons, having conversations, building computers, the usual, a little bit of everything. I got two tweets for you. Two tweets for you. One is from Emma Berquist at E-E Berquist. Love being off Twitter a couple days, logging back on and immediately seeing takes like bookshelves are performative. It's like remembering why you stopped hanging out with that one friend who was always trying to fight the bouncer.

Oh, fuck. Sometimes I'm like, I don't even Yo. I hung out with that homie way too long. Where every time you're like, yo, is he trying to fight somebody again? Can we just not please? Every time. We came to a somebody again? Can we just not, please? Every time. We came to a pinball bar because we didn't think it would be turned up enough.

And he still found it. We're playing pinball. Chill. The second one. And this is actually a shout out to someone we were talking about earlier. This is from legend, Marcella Arguello at Marcella Comedy. Love her. Love Marcella.

Love her. Shout out to the woke bully. The legend. You know what else I don't understand? Marcella comedy. Love her. Love Marcella. Love her. Shout out to the woke bully. The legend. You know what else I don't understand? When people go to a restaurant a million times, but only leave a review for the one bad experience they have. I don't trust you. Right.

I feel that. What's up with that? Okay. You should leave a million reviews. This place was great. Went back. Yeah. Great again.

Went back for the 12th time. It was great again. Unreliable narrative. Narrator. Truly unreliable narrative true narrator truly unreliable narrator i'll do a plug for marcella because i love her so much but her hbo special is coming up soon yeah she just recorded it in new york i don't know the exact date i wish i did but she is a queen and everybody should listen to her album oh yeah marcella's i'm sure we'll have her when that drops because marcella is a great, great guest.

Frequent guest of the show. Great. OK, let me see some tweets that I like. These some tweets that I like. Soul Nate M. Nate Shyamalan tweeted. Founder of Costco. Drunk as hell.

It's going to have hot dogs and optometrists. Yeah. Fuck yeah, man. Like, let's do that. Cat Damon at corn on the Goblin tweeted, telling a joke to a classroom. What does a cowboy cat say? Kindergartner.

Giddy up. Me about to say meowdy. Meow. Wait, wait, wait. What the fuck did you just say? And then one for Mariana at It's Mariana With four N's Wow that's more than Ryan McEnany Being a stoner is fun because if I have a horrible day I make myself feel better with weed

And if I have a good day I reward myself with weed Shouts to that Shouts to the plant You can find me At Miles and Gray on Twitter and Instagram You can find Jack and I on Miles and Jack got mad boosties. Our basketball podcast.

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Yo, did Jack miss that yesterday? I feel like he may have missed it because he was so sick. Somebody roll back the tape. If that happened, that was legendary. That's how sick this man was. No flu game for him. Yes. Episodes, footnotes, yes, where you can find all the articles we talk about as well as the song we write out on.

We're going to go out on a track by an artist named Lea Sen. This track is called I Feel Like I'm Blue. And if you like Fantagram and Portishead or if Portishead got like DIY beats, this is kind of like what the vibe would be. So this is I Feel Like I'm Blue by Leah Sen. Two words.

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