The Daily Zeitgeist - Daylight Savings Is Good For Business, The Oprah Effect 11.6.17

Episode Date: November 6, 2017

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Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeartTrue Crime Plus only on Apple Podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season five, episode one of the Daily Zeitgeist for November 6th, 2017. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Salutations, everyone. A.k.a. Kevin Spacey's Wheat Dealer. A.k.a. Professor of Trapanese.

And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious stand-up comedian, Solomon Giorgio. Hi. Hello. I'm happy to be here. We are thrilled to have you. Thank you. So let's dive right into it. Let's get our listeners knowing who you are. What is something that you have searched in the recent past that is revealing about who you are as a human being? Well, my last search was whether or not I should get a pressure cooker over a slow cooker.

Whether or not I should get a pressure cooker over a slow cooker. I mean, I think the name answers the question like slow cooker versus pressure cooker. Well, I learned that electronic pressure cookers are also slow cookers. So it's really, I should just get the pressure cooker because you can get, it's like the slow cooker but faster. Right. Right. Exactly. Is there any reason to, like at this day and age where there are pressure cookers is there any reason for a slow cooker at this point i'm you know i don't want to weigh in

on that uh you should read the article that i looked up okay we forgot about afterwards yeah just to me i mean i'm no expert but i'm gonna say why waste your time with a slow cooker i have used both and what do you what sayest thou so uh the pressure cooker is great because it's like really fast and uh but not like faster than a microwave you know it's like fast compared to a slow cooker but it still takes like an hour uh but you'll be amazed at like the stuff you can get out like the meat feels like it's been slow braised or whatever um the one like weird thing is that like there's a lot of pressure built up and if you're stupid like me and like accidentally like open a valve or something at the wrong

time, you like get steam shot at your face, uh, which is scary. Oh, that's why your neck's all red. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You see like this bubbling thing back here. It was just a weird mark that emerged last night.

Slow cooker is dope because you can just like put stuff in there before you go to bed and then, uh, set it and forget it and forget it. Last night. Slow cooker is dope because you can just put stuff in there before you go to bed and then- Set it and forget it. Set it and forget it. And voila, friends. The only thing is that if you put the wrong thing in there, sometimes you'll wake up and it'll be like a solid mass at the bottom because it's just like- Oh, because all the water's evaporated and cooked off.

So that's how I fucked up both of those things. I would recommend the pressure cooker. All right. I'm just from my own curiosity. What do you like to cook? This is another thing that always makes me think about people. Well, I cook a lot of comfort food, which is a big problem. I want to get healthier, but I still am like, you can just make a lasagna.

Okay. So I tend to just do lasagnas, pasta, and rarely do I add vegetables to them, which is shameful. That's my man. I like that. Okay. Perfect. That sounds delicious. What is something that you believe to be overrated other than vegetables?

Recently, I probably would say Stranger Things 2. Oh. Yeah. It's coming for you, Miles. I like that. Well, hold on. Oh! Yeah. It's coming for you, Miles. I like that. Well, hold on. We might agree. Well, I think there was an added bully to this season that I hated so much that had zero purpose and made a lot of it very unwatchable for me.

Yeah. Because, yeah, so my understanding, having not seen it, so I can't spoil anything, is that because the bully from last year has now kind of been redeemed, they needed a new bully, and they just go over the top with it? Well, because the bully from last season wasn't really that shitty of a person. Right. So that was a great thing about it, but now it's like, okay, you're just making – and there was a terrible excuse for why he was so mean. Right. There's also one episode that was fun, but literally had nothing to do with the main storyline. There's things that weren't...

It just did too much, and it got to me. What is something that you believe to be underrated? Underrated? I would probably... I still am a champion of it, because I just saw her in concert the other day, and that's Kesha's new album. Oh! I think it's underrated, and that's Kesha's new album. Oh! I think it's underrated, and way more people should be listening to it. When did the album come out?

I think at least the first single came out a few months ago, and I think the whole album was out like a month or two ago. Gotcha. You're the second person I've heard that from. Yeah. Were you a Kesha fan prior to this album? I was a Kesha fan prior to this album, but this album, she did go above and beyond. She has one song with the horn section from the Dap Kings. Oh, wow.

And two songs where she got helped from the Eagles of Death Metal. Oh, wow. And it's amazing. Wow. I like those features. I like it. All right. We're going to get into format.

Before we get into the stories, we like to state our purpose up top. The Daily Zeitgeist, we're trying to take a sample of the ideas that are out there changing the world, whether you're paying attention or not. We talk about politics and the president and the news, but we also talk about fun stuff like movies and, today, supermarket tabloids. It's tabloid day, you guys. Supermarket tabloids. It's tabloid day, you guys.

So we're going to take a look at the covers of tabloids because millions and millions of people pass those every day. And they can read. So they read the words. Some of them at least can read. And so they read the words. And those ideas are in their head. So that's what's going swimming around in Americans head on any given day. We're also going to add to the list of cultural things we talk about Oprah's favorite things. We're going to do a quick rundown of those because those just dropped on all of us.

But up first, we are going to talk about daylight savings time because you're all dealing with that. I guess you're all dealing with an extra hour of sleep right now, so you're not complaining. This is the best of all the daylight savings. The good daylight savings. Fall back. But, yeah, it's not so good in the spring, when we

spring forward and lose an hour of sleep. And overall, it's just somewhat annoying. I think it's sort of like a thing that comedians like to complain about more than it actually bothers real people in their life. Do you do a daylight savings bit? I have. I rarely even know what it's happening.

Right. Yeah. So now I have had experiences in the last couple of years where I don't know what's happened. My phone just like does the thing because, man, these iPhones, wave of the future, you guys. Yeah. And then you feel crazy when you wake up and you're like, no, it ain't eight.

Right. It's going to just feel weird tonight when it gets dark an hour earlier. Right. Yeah. That's the trade-off, I guess. Right. Darkness earlier is not my friend. But isn't this darkness later?

It's darkness earlier. Darkness earlier. And it's already getting darker. And I don't think... I have the issue with that. It's like... It's... I don't want to...

It's supposed to be like if you're up early enough, you'll get more daylight. But no one wants daylight when they have to go and be at work. No. Right. They want that little sliver of daylight where they're truly free from their burdens of the day exactly the thing that i had always heard was that it was like based on farmers because farmers like needed for some reason the time to match up with their day even though they like wake up at like three in the morning anyways uh but that's apparently not true. American farmers actually voted against it when it was first introduced as a possibility.

So we can actually trace the idea back to Benjamin Franklin, who noticed that he was sleeping longer in the mornings when he was over in France around this time and suggested that the military shoot off cannons to get people out of bed earlier so that by the time it got dark, they'd have gotten everything done that they needed to do for that day. So this guy, just because he was partying in France and was like, man, I don't like that I'm waking up all late. He's like, fire the cannons earlier so I can get my ass out of bed. Yeah. I mean, have you ever read the autobiography of Benjamin Franklin? No, I've read the autobiography of Pjamin franklin no i've read the autobiography of puff daddy yeah yeah so

it's similar uh but he basically invented the whole like self-help uh genre of books in his autobiography it's all about like self-improvement like he was kind of a bummer like even though i guess he liked to party yeah and then he had the uh poor richard's almanac which was had a lot of those tips in it. Right. Penny saved is a penny earned. Yeah, it's pretty good. It still comes out. But a lot of things that we do every day for no good reason is just because

one white guy was slightly inconvenienced to 100 years ago. Good to know. That's how I'm going to push back. I don't acknowledge this. This is some Ben Franklin oppressive shit. So the idea of changing the clocks was actually first introduced in England by the British Parliament in 1908. But it was unsuccessful because it's stupid.

But then in 1915, everyone's favorite type of white guy, Germany, was like, hey, war is expensive. We've got to find ways to, you know, cut some of these costs. And so they implemented daylight savings. And then Britain and the other world powers followed right after that. The U.S. got on board in 1918. So what was the cost cutting exactly? I think it was legitimately to save like candle wax and then so they uh recently we've been like wait what the fuck are we doing this for right and uh

research has shown that people actually go out and do more in the afternoons i guess in the spring when there's the fall forward when like basically time matches up more to the clock and you have like more daylight in the evenings. People spend more money essentially. And that's it's like this conglomerate of called the Association for Convenience and Fuel Retailing. So it's basically just like a conglomerate of 7-Elevens. But they've been pushing to start daylight savings time even earlier in the year. And in 2010, the head of that organization reported that it would have made them an estimated $1 billion in sales because of just how much more people spend and are willing to go out

into the world when it's light out. But so Indiana recently did a study because so a lot of the stuff that a lot of the assumptions that used to be made about like how we spend our power in our homes, like no longer applies. They used to think it was like we spend or we use most of our power on lights, but that's not the case anymore. It's more like gadgets and air conditioning. And so things have changed. And Indiana did a study fairly recently, I think with Yale, that found that it actually in this new world, costs the population $9 million annually, like is spent just social cost. And then also because there are like all these health problems that are caused by it.

There's pollution caused by the increased energy use, which obviously is a social cost. They put it at between $17 and 5.5 million dollars a year. But then there's also things like car accidents go up because people are driving to work in on darker streets. And so they're more likely to like hit people. So this is the devil's work. Yeah, essentially, because it's like a quick change, you know, it's like all of a sudden, like all of a sudden you're driving to work and it's like nighttime where like if we didn't do anything, your mind and body would like sort of and eyes would adjust to the change a little bit. And also the week after daylight savings is one of the

worst times for you see a jump in strokes and heart attacks, because apparently when people lose an hour of sleep, it like really fucks with their bodies. Fucking Ben Franklin. Yeah. Come on. So. So what do we do? So we just. What do we just.

Should I put my clock forward? I think California, Alaska and Rhode Island are all considering ballot initiatives. So call your local politician. And it's not even a function of the earth traveling around the sun and that we need to do that for the sake of anything. This is just complete. It's all man-made. Yeah. Fucking hell, dude.

I really thought this was some science-based shit. No, no, no. Because it's an hour. You're just taking one hour and you're giving it back. It's like basic bookkeeping. It has no effect on anything. Yeah. You're taking an hour of sunlight and putting it on one side of the workday or the other.

No, keep it on that other side. I like more light. I want to go outside. It's 7 o'clock and there's a glimmer of sunlight. Yeah. Well, also, if I'm waking up early inclock, and there's still a glimmer of sunlight. Yeah. Well, also, if I'm waking up early in the morning and it's still dark, it's fine. It's a terrible time to be up. I don't want to go do whatever I'm doing at that hour.

That's true. Yeah, and if you wake up, it's too bright. You're like, damn, what am I doing? And then Ben Franklin's like, no, you've got to get out of bed and get shit done. Hurry up. Fire off some cannons. Yeah, exactly. Don't waste that wax. All right exactly. Don't waste that wax.

All right. We're going to go to a quick break. And when we come back, Bloyd Watch. Bloyd Watch. Do you ever wonder where your favorite foods come from? Like what's the history behind bacon-wrapped hot dogs? Hi, I'm Eva Longoria.

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The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Great break, you guys. That was a great break. Hope you relaxed, took some time to cough, clear your throat, like my friend Chris.

In-studio guest. In-studio guest Chris, who I've known since I was seven years old, is here. Why don't you brag about it? Okay. I will. It's just bitter that my friend isn't in it. So, Bloidwatch. What are we seeing on the covers?

I feel like the MVPs of the tabloid covers right now are John F. Kennedy, because of the release of the documents. There's all sorts of JFK things. I think I've learned by looking just at the covers that Oswald worked for the CIA, and also that JFK was killed by a Soviet spy. Neither of which I totally believe. We know what you believe. There we go. That's how seriously they take me. This is the music they play when I start talking conspiracy theories. Secret service agent errantly shot him, which I actually did a little more reading into that.

I prefer that of all the conspiracy theories about JFK's death. There's actually, I went down a rabbit hole on that once and there's actually a website trying to explain

how Jackie O was actually the one that shot. Holy shit. Like in the car just was like. It is, it's a lot,

it's fully built out. It's absolutely insane insane can you give us the link do you know that it might be called i think i think it might be just jackie killed oh really but uh jackie killed jack yeah i can't remember what it's called but i definitely know it exists that's an amazing theory that uh now putting it next to my theory that a secret service agent accidentally did it makes me feel foolish. But so I don't know what else. The other sort of tabloid cover MVP that I'm seeing on multiple covers is the Bieber weekend.

Selena Gomez. Selena, love triangle. It's all over the unconscious. People are worried about that i read in one of the magazines said that she broke up uh selena broke up with the weekend over text that's a shitty move not cool and other people were speculating because she got her kidney health right she was always going to go back to justin i don't have a problem with the uh breaking up with somebody over text really happily take it that way don't drag me down somewhere say it to my face when i can get that's true i've been broken up with uh at like, in a restaurant, and, like, but we got the food, and then she

broke up with me, and I couldn't fucking eat. Right. And I was like, bro, why'd I even waste this food? Look, there's no way you can make a breakup good. I don't... Yeah. Right. So just might as well do it over text, right?

We break up now. There you go. Great. You're done. We break up now. There you go. You're done. Do you care at all about the ongoing saga of Selena Gomez and Justin Bieber in any way?

I have not really invested in it. I don't think many people are. I love Selena Gomez herself. I really rather her not date Justin Bieber. Why is that? He's just something about him. Yeah. I don't know what it is uh i don't like his new

age christianity thing i'm not really buying it i'm not i'm just just the way it looks i have no idea what he does oh yeah he was like he was at some really cool hip uh young like christian youth conference right with like really hip pastors like like yo jc's like a pretty sick dude like honestly okay yeah the mega churches yeah but like, guys, like you can have a relationship with Christ and it's not lame. You know, like I'm not like, I like to hang out. I have fun. And just because I opened Christ and let him into my heart doesn't make me like a lame-o

or whatever. Oh, Christ love. And I wrote a song about it. Justin hit it, but it looked like he was high as fuck. Those guys are never more than five feet away from an acoustic guitar at any time. Yeah, so I don't know. At the same time

the Weeknd love, love his first three albums, his first three mixtapes, but since then he's just kind of been sort of a boring dude. We were talking about it. There's nothing wrong with that. That's the best part of him.

Yeah, I guess that's fine. That's my favorite part. Yeah, especially if you like Selena. You do want a boring boyfriend for her. No, he's Ethiopian, but he's also Canadian. So it's kind of... Right. Like Drake in real life is boring as hell, too.

It's one of those things where you're like, I'm fine with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what they all say. Yeah, a lot of people say Drake is just really not that great. Like, doesn't party as hard, as his rapping would suggest. And what's wrong with that? No, I don't think so at all. I don't think that's a problem.

I guess it's interesting when you think of like, oh, The Weeknd, man, he's like such of this great artist. And I think people just build up this idea in their head. Like, so dark. And like, I mean, those first three albums were dark as fuck man yeah they just described like really odd relationships like yeah that's uh i love my girl i don't love her no more and she'll never fucking know that these fucking eyes that i'm staring at yo i know we're just gonna do this for the rest of the podcast actually spoken word apple test for spoken word but i think a lot of artists are just boring in real life like

i remember when snoop dogg came out with his uh tv show and it's like when he's not doing his rap videos he's a dad right right he's taking his dad his kids to like football yeah and he's like a coach that makes sense but that's not gonna be a good song but he's doing it all high as fuck right so i guess that that makes it that elevates a little bit to be a good song. But he's doing it all high as fuck. Right. So I guess that elevates it a little bit. You go from just being the dad who's a football coach, like, yo, Coach Snoop is fucking getting so high. He called me the wrong name again. Do you think he's...

I have certain friends who just never stop smoking, and it's pretty clearly because they have ADD, and that's their ADD medication. That's the only way they can focus. Do you think that's what's going on with Snoop or do you think he's just like having fun that whole time he's just like I think he just functions that way but I think yeah I like it for me it shuts me down I'm gone for the whole day yeah I can't talk to people but my brother he's like he was an aggro kid but now he smokes weed all the time he's just the chillest person in the world yeah not even you didn't even think he was the most violent little child.

Yeah. For me, it just helps me get over my parents' divorce. Yeah. To this day. So there you go. You'll never have to confront it. Yeah, never, because I'm so high. I'm like, yo, why'd you do her like that?

Oh, man, I'm going to get Taco Bell now. What the fucking problem? I'm going to get Taco Bell now. What's my fucking problem? Otherwise, I didn't see too much. I guess Katie Holmes and Jamie Foxx are on again. It's a fucking roller coaster we've been riding these past few weeks. I didn't even know about that one. That they were together?

They're in secret. See, I used to channel surf, so I was able to get all this tabloid information before. But now that I have all the streaming services,'m just yeah i'm in locked in uh locked into stranger things too yeah well their whole thing is katie had to not like couldn't publicly date for five years or whatever there's like a stipulation of a divorce to tom cruise we for real that's why they were like creeping on because they had said they were dating secretly for many many years what a wounded like just egotistical like thing for him to be like no you can't get over me for five years according well he's not in public right that's so don't throw it in my face um like that's is that a

legal stipulation you can put on somebody else that they can't do this thing i i'm sure i i can bring up the legalese of it but there was something about it like she couldn't talk about there were like there was a lot of like non-disclosure kind of things and i think one of them was so much hey well you know we can go take our grievances up with the church yeah we are with an eyesight of the scientology i think one good thing was in the globe uh that i really liked was Kim Jong-un's plot to snatch Jennifer Aniston. Lovesick dictator wants dream girl all for himself. And then, like, next to it, it says, freaky friends fan boy.

I just love the alliteration in this magazine. Was that in a direct quote we talked last week about how they always attribute quotes to anonymous sources? No. But the anonymous sources, like, speak in alliteration and, like, they're like, this sick punk. Yeah. Well, this one, I mean, I had no idea that he was so obsessed. Other people in the room said this was, like, a known thing, that he is a huge Friends fan. Yeah.

But apparently he had tried, supposedly, according to a CIA contract agent, whatever that means. Right. Like, you, you, you freelance as a janitor in the building or something, uh, that yeah. In Paris,

like he had a plan to swoop her up, but because she, her security, like they, they say the reasons why it was thwarted is because like her security was so tight and her husband, Justin Theroux was by her side all the time. Like as if,

if you're really going to, that's what stops. Yeah. I mean, they straight up murked his brother, like, with a fake prank show. I think you could snatch up somebody by force pretty easily

if you're really about that life. So, who knows? No. Also, it's always weird when people choose, like, all these, like, monsters and are just surprised that they're into something normal.

Right, right, right. Hey, did you know that Hitler's into art and that Osama bin Laden's been... Yeah. Watched the Charlie... Yeah, Charlie bit my finger video? Oh, my God.

Wow, so surprising that this readily available popular thing can be enjoyed by all. I thought his favorite hobby was just baby stabbing or something like that. Hitler loved adorable things. He loved Disney. He loved, like, dogs. He loved...

Yeah, he's... No uh no wait what am i saying no americana like coca-cola let's stop i was like let's not be surprised by that yeah that people yeah can be evil and human at the same time and you know shout out to kim jong-un you know he's a big nba fan of the 90s so yeah we have that coming down mj yeah um huge bulls i think like that's because isn't that like why him and dennis rodman have such a great like relationship is because like he's like oh my god dennis rodman from my favorite bulls team Yeah. Huge Bulls fan. Isn't that why him and Dennis Rodman have such a great relationship? It's because he's like, oh my God, Dennis Rodman from my favorite Bulls team is talking to me. The second three-peat. Yeah. That is why Vice, one of the more brilliant things they've done. A Vice show is actually the first place I saw you on Flophouse.

the first place I saw you. Oh, yes, I was on one. On Flophouse. But, yeah, they came up with the idea of just grabbing Dennis Rodman because they knew he was such a fan of Jordan and those bulls and just send him over there. How did they pitch that to Dennis Rodman? I don't know. First they had to find... Dennis Rodman's the fuck up for everything.

Yeah. They just had to kick over a bunch of garbage and was like, hey... Whoa, Dennis Rodman. You want to go? Whoa, that reminds me. I have an idea for a show. Hey, man, get the fuck out of my trash. Dennis Rodman?

What else? What are you guys seeing? I mean, Sean Penn is terrified that El Chapo is going to kill him. Really? I'm not going to say that I'd be okay with that, but Sean Penn's not my favorite dude in the world. No, no. Among the most self-important. Again, a great example of how the tabloids use just quotation marks around anything they write to make it seem like it's a quote from someone.

Right. It just says, Sean is frightened out of his wits, says a source close to the Mystic River star. Of all the movies, Mystic River? Okay. But, I mean, that was a good one. But it's like who says frightened out of his wits that's like something again like a 70 year old tabloid writer is just doing like yeah frightened out of his wits i don't think i've ever said that

in earnest so el chapo was into this actress who wanted to meet up with el chapo because these monsters like that is a way that they're trying to like get these monsters. They tried to, uh, get Joseph Coney to meet with Angelina Jolie and like had the, you know, us special forces like waiting in the bushes, but they couldn't, they basically Angelina Jolie as they were planning it, just like ghosted them was like, Oh, I got other stuff going on. Uh, so, um, I was going to do it, but then I was like, you know what? I don't want to be bait for an African dictator.

Exactly. But so this actress actually was like carrying on a conversation with El Chapo. And then Sean Penn like sort of insinuated himself into the situation. And like they went and met with him. He brought, I think, journalists with him that that footage ended up in the Netflix documentary. But El Chapo then was caught soon after that and like thinks that they like basically turned him in. Set me up. Yeah.

So and if El Chapo is listening, he totally did that shit. And that's exactly what happened. Sean Penn. Hey, El Chapo, what do you think of Chapo Trappo trap house are you gonna come after them for a trademark big fan yeah great great podcast i'm sure i'm sure you think they're shook over there um probably not yeah i think i think originally it was pen what sean penn was writing a story for rolling stone and like brought all these cameras and stuff uh i was listening to that actress being interviewed fairly recently. And like they were like, it was so scandalous. Like, did you have an affair with Sean Penn? Did you not? She was like, no, there's nothing scandalous about it. We had sex. It was like on NPR. I was like, yeah, all right, we're going to move on to Donald Trump's has not always been the best at responding to tragedies. Say what?

I don't know. It didn't bother me, but at the same time, he also was anti-politicizing or talking about gun control in the aftermath of Vegas. Well, if it doesn't serve his purpose, why touch it? And he also was calling the terrorist, in this case, an animal all over the place, but he didn't use that language. And also advocating for the death penalty before there's even a trial. Right. Thanks for tainting that jury. Yeah. So, yes, strong, steady leadership that we look for in a president in the aftermath of a terror attack.

But we wanted to take a look back. One of our writers went back through his history of responding to sort of national flashbulb type tragedies. And Solomon, we wanted to kind of quiz you on whether you remember it or not. And if you don't like trying to guess like what just the general gist of his response to the tragedy of these tragedies was. So for a moment, try to enter Donald Trump's mind. Right. God, it's getting really dark. Let's talk. Let's talk. Charlie Hebdo.

Let's talk Charlie Hebdo. So the Charlie Hebdo attack, the satire paper in Paris was attacked. A bunch of people were shot and killed. And it was just a national tragedy for France and global tragedy. So in the aftermath of that, he tweeted his thoughts on it. What would you guess his tweet was? Obama created ISIS, sent them to kill Hebdo. That's my closest guess. So his actual response that that that he probably tweeted that before this. this, but the one that we've chosen is, quote, if the morons who killed all those people at Charlie Hebdo would have just waited, the magazine would have folded.

Dash. No money. No success. Exclamation point. So he just started talking shit about how unsuccessful the magazine was. Yeah, because the gunman's aim was to be like i want to put you in a terrible financial situation right they're like just the fact that he like couldn't keep himself from just like talking shit about another business wow but that's a that's a wonderful

weird take i wouldn't have i couldn't predict it and i thought i would have be able to figure i guess in a way that's a more peaceful ending because he's like, well, then you wouldn't have to kill anybody because the magazine would have folded. But it's just so petty and just like, I don't know, shitty to be like, it's not that good a magazine. Yeah. It's just like at least you could, you know, the response was sort of talking about how it was an important magazine. Clearly, if it made these people that angry and his his response was like, wasn't that big a deal? I don't know why they did that. And then contrast that with what Obama said.

I strongly condemn the horrific shooting at the offices of Charlie Hebdo, a magazine in Paris that has reportedly killed 12 people. Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims of this terrorist attack and the people of France at this difficult time. Cuck. Yeah, France is America's oldest ally and has stood shoulder to shoulder with the united states in the fight against terrorists who threaten our shared security and the world goes on with more like i was just like paragraphs upon paragraphs of the right thing to say all right the the aftermath of uh princess diana's death is actually a good one oh yeah this one isn't actually a tweet because twitter did not exist

oh my god he actually had a public response to that. There are people who were around him in the aftermath of her death who have who he he talked about, like his response, like what he said was repeated like that. This is what he talked about in the aftermath of that with regards to Princess Diana. Yeah. So anytime he had an interview and Princess Diana was brought up, he had a he had a thing that he kept touching on. So what do you. So you're you're Donald Trump. Hey, Donald Trump, what do you think about Princess Diana's death? It only sucks when the pretty ones die. Oh, man, that's...

That's in the neighborhood. Yeah, that's not bad. I assumed it would be something that often happens. No, it was basically, I could have fucked her. Oh, yeah. Essentially. Only weeks after her death, he was already making claims about the likelihood that Princess Diana would have succumbed to his charms. I would rather die in a car accident.

Seriously. Maybe that was, like, the sliding door scenario. She was like, oh, no. This is your fork in the accident. Seriously. Maybe that was like the sliding door scenario that she was like, oh no, this is your fork in the road. Select. Oh, please. Right into the K-Roll.

Right into my death. To come to his subtle charms, which we heard about his subtle wooing techniques on the Dateline tape. Right. How he subtly approached it. But the actual quote is like,

Stone Phillips asked Trump if he thought, I don't know why, he's like, if he thought he would have had a chance with Diana. Well, because he heard everybody saying like, so you think you had a chance? And he says, I think so, yeah. I always have a shot.

Oh, God. That's just, I mean, come on. That shows a complete inability to think about women as anything other than sexual objects and like objects of conquest. He's a total sociopath. I mean, he can't even he can't even acknowledge that someone died. They can be like, oh, that's terrible.

Nothing is more terrifying than an ugly man with confidence. Tony. All right. The other two are somewhat well known, but, but we can see if you remember them. His response to the attacks of 9-11 and specifically the World Trade Center's falling down, he had a – Direct response about that? Yeah, direct response to that. Because I think he – that was when he made a statement about Muslims in New Jersey celebrating jersey celebrating right yeah he did yeah i don't know why that's one of them yeah

of the many things he said oh my god how many oh uh oh now he has the tallest now i have the tallest building in the art we need a sound effect for that yeah so we have to do janky mouth sound and then when they built the world Center, it became known as the second tallest, and now it's the tallest, he said, talking about his building. Like, God forbid something 9-11 level catastrophic happens to the country, and he's our president. That would be – because he appears incapable of having a human response. He would have a concert for himself in the afterlife. Well, here's the thing. He also thinks a lot of these are jokes.

Right. He's like, this is like the worst open mic we've ever been to. Like, it's not fun at all. Right. It's like, you're bombing and bombing. Yeah. Do you think he knows what's funny about himself? Because I feel like there's also a complete lack of awareness to it.

Have you been to an open mic? Because that's exactly what it is. It's just a lot of white guys with no self-awareness. All right. We're going to take a quick break, and we'll be right back after that. Do you ever wonder where your favorite foods come from? Like what's the history behind bacon-wrapped hot dogs? Hi, I'm Eva Longoria.

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on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange

and violent summer. This is is rip current available now with new episodes every thursday listen on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back uh so we're bringing in our expert guest, super producer Anna Hosnier, who has been raving about this Oprah Winfrey. Hey, yay! I don't know why. Hi, yes, thank you for having me. Oh, is this your Oprah voice? Oprah guest voice? Yes.

So this is a thing that she does every year, right, around this time? Correct. Yes. She drops a list of her favorite things. Yes. Right in time for the holidays. Right. So everyone knows what they're supposed to get their families.

So the list has like a cover image, which is Oprah on a sled being pulled by adorable little like corgis or like Jack Russell Terriers. I would love to be the person behind this photo shoot. Like, Oprah, what can we do? And she's like, big. We want to go big huge sled dogs everything slay slay oprah literally slay on that slay look the fact that she is the cover of her own magazine every month is the most the greatest thing i could ever imagine i want

that power yeah it's the power play of the century it's like i dare you to not have me on this goddamn cover every month and this is the 20 year anniversary of oprah's favorite thing so this is a big year for us you guys well you know why she's on the cover of every magazine is because that sells better than anything else like people fucking love oprah like yeah you know she's smart as fuck i love oprah. Right. I love Oprah. And I don't even know anything. I've never seen a single thing. The only thing I know about her favorite things was that SNL sketch where the woman's head explodes.

Or no, she gives birth. Do you remember that? No? Mm-mm. All right. Well, I'm 33 years old. See you later. I recommend following her on Instagram as well.

Oh, is her IG Litty? Ooh. That was perfect. What a life. Oh, really? It's perfect. It's all just like like this is how a billionaire lives yeah she's like look at me and my like that is the subtext of everything she's

done for the past 15 years on my fucking level holding a basket full of veggies she picked out of her own garden but like a huge one and she's just like oh like yeah whoever styled that and that's the best part i love that part yeah it's like yeah she has a person to make sure she can take this wonderful photo do your thing ma i mean it's kind of stunning that we're in our fifth season and bringing up oprah for the first time like i think that proves we're not doing a good job at like reading the zeitgeist because oprah like creates the zeitgeist every morning. But yeah, I mean, she picks what books are going to be popular. She now just picks what things, just nouns, what nouns will be popular for the next year.

So what are some good ones on this year's list? So I'm a comfort person. I don't know if you knew this about me, Jack. Well, yeah, you have noticed. You only wear sweatpants. And I wear pajamas to work. Dress't know if you knew this about me, Jack. Well, yeah, you have noticed. You only wear sweatpants. And I wear pajamas to work. Look, you know. Dress for the job you want.

Right. The job I want is to be asleep. I just like to be paid to sleep. Right now, I'm looking at the Softies Woman Stretch Snuggle Lounger. Now, what you need to understand is Oprah lives on a different scale than us, so a lot of these things on this list are, you know, like $90 plus. It's expensive. It's a lifestyle. It's a Christmas gift.

It's a once a year kind of thing. So now this snuggle, it's basically a velour sweater that comes all the way down to your knees. It's got a cowl neck. It's got a kangaroo pocket. It looks insanely comfortable. It does. I'm looking at this right now.

And it's literally visually the ugliest outfit I've ever seen. But it is very comfortable. It's for like the lazy person, like the lazy woman who just wants to flex on her guests. Like, welcome to my home. It's like a slightly more attractive version of that Snuggie that had arms in it that you could wear. Slanket. Yeah, Slanket. And the hoodie put together.

Right. Yeah, so there's a lot of very comfortable clothes because Oprah, just like me, we have a lot in common. Does she actually wear it? Do you ever catch her actually in some of this stuff? Yeah. In the wild? She usually is wearing these things. Especially on her Instagram, she's like, this is the thing that I recommend and here's me using it.

And I think a lot of people send her their stuff because they know what Oprah's into because they want to get on this list. Like, this is like. Yeah. Because I know how real the Oprah effect was. Because I know like Toni Morrison actually like she did an interview where she said she got a bigger boost from being on Oprah's book list than she did from winning a fucking Nobel Prize.

So. Yeah. But how many people know who's won a Nobel Prize every year? Yeah, but how many people of us know who's won a Nobel Prize every year? Yeah, right. That's true. I guess that's true. We're just talking shit about Nobel Prizes.

Who gives a shit about that irrelevant bullshit? Care about your stream of consciousness bullshit. So these look wildly comfortable. So this next, this is another comfort piece that she put on her list, is the Emu Women's Mayberry Slipper. It is a sheepskin slipper, but it's not a normal slipper. It has, it basically looks like a sandal that's like so furry and it like goes over your feet, but your toes can stick out so you won't get overheated. It's honestly, it's quite genius.

And honestly, and what you're realizing is a lot of these things are all selling out like crazy amounts because like it's all on amazon people are on here one click you got it and this slipper i am actually considering buying this slipper i was paid today and i am gonna go a little wild tonight these look like if you took like uh the rope belt of like a really nice robe a bathrobe and you just wrapped it around your foot. This is the look you got. Yeah, I think there's ways to make all this stuff on your own. Right.

This is like fur. Yeah. Furry. I don't know what kind of robes you wear, Miles, but mine are not fur. Well, y'all should come through. Not yet. I will be live streaming from my home, so you can see what that robe life is about. I think by the end of it you'll end up

looking like a bath mat yeah yeah when you wear yeah you got that od like velour hoodie with the pouch and you got your carpet feet yeah it's like i'm absorbent and with that i will be laying on my yellow leaf hammock which was also recommended by oprah now i I am a hammock lady, and I bought a hammock this year. And let me tell you, it is the life. Oh, hammock life is a real thing. Hashtag hammock life. Yeah, so you could argue, like, once again, me and Oprah have a lot in common. We're kind of getting a lot of the same vibes.

So the hammock, it's a classic double hammock. Honestly, if you— Sounds like you're selling the shit now. I love it. You do sound like a hammock salesperson. I understand you guys, but I'm actually a lounge chair person. Well, I'm sorry, open to that. What is a double hammock, real quick, before we get into lounge chairs?

It can hold up to 400 pounds, is what it is. And I bought one, and it's very ideal. Okay, valid. So, talk about lounge chairs. Well, there's no lounge chair available, so I don't know what I would – I don't know what to do since it's not her favorite thing. But I guess I'm done having it as one of my favorite things. It's very rude for you to bring up something that wasn't on her list. Real quick, one of Jack's favorite things from my list is bears and hammocks.

Look up bears and hammocks on YouTube, you guys. There are some great videos. Bears, just somehow, for some reason, I think there's like word got out in the forest because bears just keep trying to get into hammocks. Word got out in the forest. They are delightful. I thought Jack was crazy.

He's like, hey, check this out. It's like some weird conspiracy shit. But yo, the bears look like they're having the best fucking time. So I will co-sign that one. Just search bear hammock. Anyway, back to Oprah. Do you think there's any pay for play involved? Like, look, we're hooking you up.

I was just going to say that I don't think, well, I don't know, because all of them are like, I feel like they're all caught off guard. They're all just like selling out immediately. So like, it's not like she's like hooking up with them. I think they're given to her for free because she probably gets a bunch of stuff. And the whole concept of just getting on that list is enough. But I think they do pay. I think it's advertising.

So there's no way that there's no way that a billionaire is promoting another product without getting any cut back from it. I always thought that she just gets it all. She is a good businesswoman. So therefore, yes. I'm sure she probably will get paid and be like, well, hold on, let me make sure it's up to Oprah's standards. She's not putting anything on there that she doesn't like, but there's no way anyone will convince me

that she's not getting money for doing this. I just thought maybe she got like 300 Orbit cards to give to every person in the family. I would be willing to bet that she chooses these without consulting the people themselves, and then maybe there's a thing where she's like, all right, look, I'm going to put you on my list. And they're like, oh, thank God. Like, you can have a 20% of our company or whatever.

But I don't think she would, like, you know, gamble with her brand by, like, just letting people taint her. No, I don't think they tainted, but I think there is some kickback in her. Like, there has to be because that's just who she is. Because there are many, even in Wall Street, they all know the Oprah effect is real. When she bought Weight Watchers, the stock went up 10% that day. I love bread. She brought bread back. Apparently, Oprah spent $43.2 million to buy 6.3 million shares at $6.79 a share. The original investment is now worth $263.3 million.

So she made $220 million. Salute. From October to July. That's great. So that is what we call uh a good investment uh one i want to talk about one last thing which i think is just the most absurd thing on the list is the farmhouse pottery beehive fatwood crock sticks and basically there's a bag that comes with it they're just sticks of beehive fatwood. What the fuck is that?

Exactly. That is literally some rich people shit where you're like, what? Yeah. You can tell. Oprah likes it. Okay, so her quote is, Stedman thinks I'm a genius at building fires. My secret? These brilliant fire starters that sit on our hearth in their gorgeous rustic stoneware crock, which was hand-thrown in Vermont.

That would be hilarious if somebody just walks into your room like, you're really good at building fires. You are a genius at building fires. It sounds like somebody like, you're an arsonist. Right, right, right. No, no, no, no, no. No, I've just been using these beehive fountains. The subtext is like, she's just always playing with fire at her house. And Stetman's like, you still fucking burning shit over there?

You just burnt the guest room that I'm staying in again. Oh, yeah. So those are all things that we're going to be seeing out there in the zeitgeist. Beehive fatwood. Get ready, motherfuckers. Beehive fatwood upside your head. Awesome. Well, thank you so much, Anna Hosnia.

No problem. Thank you for having me. I'll see you guys next year. Put your eye mask back on. Solomon Giorgio, it's been so fun to have you on. Where can people find you? I can be found at my website, which is thesolomongiorgio.com. And I also have an album out.

That's another thing that I should probably mention. With the most glamorous cover, I mustcom and I also have an album out. That's another thing that I should probably mention. With the most glamorous cover, I must say. Oh, thank you so much. Comedy Central Records, it is called Homo Negro Superior.

Homo Negro, if you can't spell it with accents. That's out right now and it's available on iTunes and Spotify and every readily available thing in the world.

Solomon, spelled with all O's and then Giorgio spelled how you would expect it to be spelled. Actually, it's spelled wrong. It's G-E-O-R-G-I-O. Oh, that's how I would have spelled it. It's supposed to be spelled G-I-O-R-G-I-O. Oh, really? Giorgio. I would have gone George.

I-O. I-O. I-O. Miles Gray, it's also been fun having you where can people find you you can actually find me looking through this Oprah list a little bit more because it looks like a lot of things that

actually intersect with my lifestyle but also on Instagram and Twitter awesome you can follow me at Jack underscore O'Brien IEN and we are going to drop an extra episode today you guys we're uh trying out a different schedule this week uh we usually drop episodes uh the morning before at midnight now we're going to be uh recording the day of so uh the news will be

hotter fresher the zeitgeist will be Zeitgeist-ier. So we're dropping an extra episode this Monday afternoon slash evening. And we will be talking about this was our weekend episode. And this evening we will be talking about Monday's news. That's going to do it for

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where you can find our footnotes footnotes we have links to all the stuff we talked about today including that Oprah list because you probably don't know where to find that yourself. Yeah, so, and that's going to do it for today. We will be back later on today, because we are a daily podcast. Thanks.

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