The Daily Zeitgeist - Death Of Super Bowl Ads? Impeachment XLV 2.9.21

Episode Date: February 9, 2021

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And man, this Zoom just got real hazy. Game stock stock is down. Game stock stock is down. Oh, that is courtesy of Chrissy Yamaguchi, man. Why does he miss the whole GameStop story, I think? What happened GameStop? Oh, boy. Can't wait to catch you up. All I know is I saw it trending and I started buying stocks.

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He is the hilarious, the talented Billy Wayne Davis. There he is. Hey, guys. There he is. Hey, listen to that rich baritone. Hello. Hey, you a bike expert? I see you got a lot of bikes hanging up in your garage image there.

I do. You got a, I think, okay, anyway, we'll talk later. I need you got a lot of bikes hanging up in your garage image there. I do. You got a, I think, okay, anyway, we'll talk later. I need, Zite Gang, let me know. I need a mountain bike, but I'm not trying to spend a lot of money. Send me some suggestions. I'm a mountain boy. I don't know. I'm, oh, you like roadie?

You a road man? It's just, it's all about, I'm not like going down the mountain. I have a mountain bike that I bought at a yard sale, and I've been told it's really good. Isn't that always funny when you have a thing, you're not sure if it's good, and then someone else is like, hey, man, whoa. Was that a Cannondale? And you're like, well, I don't know. I got it at a grill. They're like, that's a good bike.

And you're like, oh, really? I have a grill, and it like, that's a good bike. And you're like, oh, really? I have a grill. And it's like, it has a smoker. It has the charcoal. And it has the propane and then a burner on it. And I bought it for $60 on Craigslist. I knew that was pretty cheap. Yeah.

But my friend who really loves meat and smoking and all that came over. And he was like, man, that's so nice. I was like, yeah, I got that for $60. And I thought he was going to punch me. Oh, he was so angry at that deal, at the savings? Yeah, because he was like, that thing is $600. And he was like, and you paid. I was like, 60.

Yeah. Let that sink in. Like, anytime he stares at it. Anytime he's over, you can see it. Like it eats him up. Like one day I'll just give it to him. You catch him using binoculars from across the street, looking into your backyard.

He's like, he's still got that. Well, just anytime he's over, you just, there's like, there's like at least one time, anytime he comes over,

I'll just catch him just looking at it, kind of shaking his head. Just like this motherfucker. Right. Cause it's one of those things too, that gives you appreciation. Cause like, oh shit shit somebody who knows their shit says this is it and then you're then you're like and i got the deal baby i'm winning all day it yeah and it was like it was like i just knew i was like 60 for that's pretty cheap i knew that

and i was like that'll be fine i need a And then he loves that, he's like, so what have you smoked in it? And I was like, nothing. And you just see just rage. Just pure rage. Just like, what's wrong with you? I'm just cooking these. I cook chicken on it sometimes for the kids. Yeah, these frozen Tyson chicken breast patties.

I just throw a couple of those on there. What you want? Yeah, I think they're reformed from like rib meat and stuff. They're real cheap. They're great. The kids love them. Teriyaki flavor. They're like, you got it.

All right. Well, Billy Wayne, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. But first, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about. Did you guys watch the Super Bowl? It was on. Yeah, I watched it. We'll talk about that we'll just do a little impressionistic recount of of what we witnessed we'll talk about impeachment

two uh first blood since we're not doing the electric boogaloo thing anymore the the white supremacists took that they ruined the breaking franchise yes but they will never ruin when Turbo did the fucking dance with the broom in breaking the original film. We're going to talk about whether QAnon is cool anymore. They might be losing some Q points as it were. We're going to talk about just the vaccine mess. Plenty more. But first, Billy Wayne, we'd like to ask our guest what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

I searched math. Like doing some math. Math. Yeah, I did first I did 50 times 5, which is $250 times 4,

which is $1, times four, which is... $1,000. Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. You guys know where I'm going with this? No, no, I have no idea. The visual, you're like...

Uh-huh. Wait, so what are the things that you're doing? So you're pressing some numbies? I'm just wondering if you guys, if the Daily Zot Guys paid your guests $25 to $50 a episode, that would be how much a month extra? Yeah, we should start doing it. I think so.

For sure. Yeah, I agree. We always uh guest hosts when they come in uh but yeah we need to we need to reevaluate the payment of guests for and i only bring it up now no no i'm fucking with you yeah because before the pandemic, it wasn't a huge deal for us because we could, your fans and the Daily Zeitgeist, the Zeitgang is awesome about coming to live shows. Right. So it could balance out.

That's why I never brought it up before because, and I hate to say that because I hate that we're paying you an exposure thing, but it did work out that way where you could make money if you were touring from promoting now there is no touring right right right and then but in or on your podcast or whatever but the last year we we don't even fucking yeah people are touring but they fucking should no it makes sense and we started out paying guests but yeah i think to your point

yeah that exchange of like how like what is on the other side of it yeah like how do you as a comedian uh what's the what's the sort of material benefit at the end of the day i think is a fair thing to like uh to bring up for sure yeah yeah now i would also love to call out radio shows they don't pay us either but tv does that's the weird thing like conan pays like that all that that's a it's a weird thing i don't know why radio doesn't but tv does i think it's the same setup but the margins are so different you know what i mean like yeah because radio djs get paid less than you would expect like i remember when i was working at radio and people, I was like, oh my God, you're on the radio, you're popping.

I'm like, oh, they're fucking you over over here. Oh, yeah. But I'm not talking about like, yeah, if you're in, but I'm talking about those guys that are in markets like 15 or higher where they're like, you're making half a million dollars a year

on the radio. Right, right. I'll tell you this. People in rap radio are not making money. Oh, no, I'm not. No, I understand. But I'm saying like, I'm talking about certain these big, big shows. Oh, right, right, right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. You're just like, oh, you guys are making a ton of money. I'm not talking about like, yeah, you're in Knoxville, Tennessee on the, on the local alt station. Like I know that dude's making $20,000 a year. If that. Right,

right, right. Yeah. I get how that works. All right. Well, uh, we will.

Yeah. I think people on Twitter will be very happy. I didn't think it would be a thing. I was just like, Hey, I think they, they should pay up. Yeah.

Agreed. Awesome. Uh, what hey, I think they should pay up. Yeah. Agreed. Awesome. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated? Yes, sir. I think performing at the halftime show is underrated. I don't think people understand

how... And I'm not the weekend fan. I realize that at one time, I thought I was a Weeknd fan, and it turned out I did some research, and I still just like Daft Punk. That's who I like because they do most of his beats and stuff. Right. Oh, yeah.

The songs you know, Daft Punk probably did of his. That's what I'm saying. Oh, really? Yeah. I didn't realize that. It's so true. They're just good at making beats to his voice everybody all his other songs are not they sound the same he's got good taste in producers though

because the producer who he worked with on his first three albums was also dope and like had a very singular kind of sound to it oh they i think yeah he knows and people being like he didn't dance i'm like that's not what that motherfucker does no yeah he makes eye contact with the uh with the camera and people yeah he does cocaine and then sing songs yeah yeah yeah that was interesting when uh you know i watched the halftime show with my kids. They're very musically inclined. They were dancing. My son was like, can we put this on my mix? And it was like the hills, I think. It was like that song about how he only calls women when he's blacked out.

And how when he's fucked up on Zans, that's the real him. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it'll be on there next time we listen that's my i remember i used to love that boys to men song i'll make love to you and my aunt my mom had no problem she's like i just remember them talking about it and my aunt being like i can't believe you're letting him listen to this and i remember this conversation my mom going like they don't know what it means and i just remember thinking like i gotta find out what this means what the making love to you part i'll make love to you right right you won't it's just a pretty song yeah but i mean it's like nine or ten you're just like this is beautiful and then

my aunt who didn't have kids is like that's he's they're talking about fucking and my mom's like he doesn't know what that is right right it's it is a weird i mean the way lyrics have gone over the years you know you should be like just a smooching and a kissing in the moonlight to like take your foot get your ass out in this alley because we're fucking now like it's the lyrics are so like on the nose and like because you know the weekend groceries that was on the radio right right right uh wrist icicle ride dick bicycle okay thanks nikki uh but like you have like the weekend we're not doing metaphors anymore we're just gonna say oh ride dick okay i get that one but yeah the weekend shit is really like i left my girl at home and i don't love her no more and she'll never fucking know that

these fucking eyes that I'm staring at. You're like, oh my God. The only thing we go on. Yeah, it's just, you just can't hear him snorting. That's all his songs are. Wait, do you think that song I Can't Feel My Face When I'm With You

is about drugs? No, I can't. I think he's having some form of stroke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think it's a love song. I think he's talking about his dealer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I i don't think it's a love song i think he's talking about his dealer yeah yeah yeah i mean just even dude high for this is already sounds like a guy who's like naked about to get like high on drugs like you don't know what's in store like he's got like smiegel energy but you know what you he's got a lot of smugle energy. The drugs gave him insight

into a power that he didn't know he had. And then the power is just him muttering, being like, yo, when you think about it, by himself, not really actually saying anything profound. But, you know, the drugs hit really hard for some people. But you

were saying that performing is underrated. Yeah, I think people are just like, they don't truly understand what that performance is. Like, they're moving the stage in and setting everything up in like 10 minutes, and then you have to go perform

and do a 15-minute set in a stadium that's not set up for a concert. Yeah, absolutely yeah and then you have to also play to a a television audience while you're also playing to a live audience in something that's not set up for either and everybody in every year everybody's like me it's all right i I would have done it. Meh. I would have done better.

You guys. It's a losing proposition from the beginning. Yeah. And you have to pay to do it. Did you know they don't pay them to do that? Right. The performers have to bid to do it. Oh, what?

Zero money they get paid. Oh, Jesus. Oh, but who handles the. They get paid. Oh, Jesus. Oh, but who handles the production costs? The artist? No, the Super Bowl does. The Super Bowl handles the production costs. Okay, I was going to say that. No one gets paid.

No one's getting a check from performing. Right, because, I mean, at that point, you're like, motherfuckers, you're doing the Super Bowl. But now it's like, what is it, even? They're like, the backup dancers, you'll be paid an exposure, and then they all have to wear jock straps on their faces. All masks. Those masks were wild.

I mean, I tweeted this. I was like, Daft Punk didn't show up because everyone else was wearing a mask. Like, y'all are doing our thing. We're not going to be here. They could have been there. Who knows here They could've been there Who knows They were there I like Daft Punk a lot I like their music

And then I like that they're They've got all the trappings of fame Except for no one knows who they are That is The greatest trick the devil ever pulled It's the Brilliant It's like yeah

Cause you're one-upping Banksy and they're like, well, I still have my intellectual property rights and you can't, like, troll me into court to expose who I am over, like, some IP tussle contest because we are who we are. You just not gonna know what the fuck we look like ever. Exactly. And I remember...

Have you ever had... Has anyone heard of a time... Does anyone have, like, I saw Daft Punk without their helmets on anecdotes ever? Okay, so I've heard from two different people in LA of people who swore they saw them without their helmets on. Like just around or like performing? Like that they knew it was them, but like they were trying to be like low key. I'm like, well, I think if you really wanted to know, whatever they're like normally was like i was at the jim henson studio and they were getting prepared for like another production because i knew it was them

because they walked in with the helmets and then in the hallway i saw a guy in the same outfit i'm pretty sure but no helmet on and i think it was them like this has caused so much energy around seeing somebody without a helmet i don't even know if they actually saw them but it's like a genre of sure but no helmet on and i think it was them like this has caused so much energy around seeing somebody without a helmet i don't even know if they actually saw them but it's like a genre of like anecdote i hear in the city i just imagine them being looking like two basic european white yeah the kind of dudes you're like yo you know what good call with the with the helmets yeah oh without a doubt they take their helmets off and everybody's like okay whoa it was better when i got to pretend it was some other shit going on

yeah yeah it looks like darth vader without his mask we need to just put this back on this looks bad something about that mystery man keeps people coming back they're so good though so many people have probably also you know gotten benefits from claiming that they were actually daft punk at music festivals or clubs or whatever all you have to do is bring a mask you know i know well that you always see people at comic con they'll always be like one or two people coming to staff punk like with like good helmet. So right now I know What is uh, what's something you think is overrated Billy Wayne Oh Probably the the the whole Super Bowl thing

Yeah It's just so overrated yeah what like so what are we talking here that it's an event that we have to gather for it's it fails to be like the culmination of a season for this league like what what dimensions of it are you what's what's hitting with you you're like no i should overrate i think it's where you're like, no, I should overrate it? I think it's...

Okay, I'm sorry. I was just trying to think how to articulate what I meant. I think it's like... I don't think the event itself is overrate. I think the anticipation of all of these stuff around it is incredibly overrated because it can never live up to the hype of of what it was and what the game because it's not about the game anymore it's not even about the commercials anymore you know it's like all these different It's like, okay, here's what the Super Bowl is. It's like when you tweet something, and it's very clear what you're saying.

Right. And then 900 people make that thing about their thing. Right. Right, right, right. You're like, this was a take on pancakes. Yes. Right, right. And then somebody else is being like, yeah'd be like this is it's you're it

this whole pancake thing and it's it's why the the spotted owl is endangered and you're like i i mean look i love the spotted owl but i don't know what this has to do but that's what the super bowl i think is like if you read twitter or anything else, it's just like, this game represents what PETA stands for. And you're just like, I don't think that's... Right. No, not this one. No, the ball they're playing with is a dead pig.

That's what that ball is. Oh, my God. A deflated dead pig last night. Is the ball darker? That's one thing I noticed. Is the football dyed a darker color? It could just be me from not watching football in a season and a half. I was like, the ball looked darker.

Anyway, that's what I brought to it. No, I mean, you might be onto something because Brady likes his balls half deflated, so they would look a little darker. Okay. It's not half deflated. It's just a little bit. Yeah, just like a little grippy. Don't give him fodder.

You gotta get it done. I know. I'm just trolling every Brady fan. Well, I cheered for it. Did you? I think what he did was,'s crazy impressive yeah i agree and i don't like i've never liked belichick and his uh what's the word his probation officer style program he does have like a probation officer vibe to him oh yeah Well it's hey we know you're in trouble

So we ain't gonna pay your The actual value of you Right So we're gonna And if you fuck up at all you're gone But you could win a national You could win a championship if you play with us But then probably not play for another team

Right right right Just so you know the environment environment, toxic, baby, but you might get a ring, babe. You might get a ring and never play again, though. Yeah. So, up to you. Your call. Anyway, I'll just leave that here. Alright, where are my sleeve-cutting scissors, honey?

His fashion is also inspired by... Could we give the most money to the guy that's murdered two people? Yeah, yeah. Right. I mean, because when we're in that twins Could we give the most money to the guy that's murdered two people? Yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah. I mean, because when we're in that twins formation, look out. It's tough to stop. We got Gronk and a felon.

It's great. Gronk. I love Gronk. My wife worked with him on Game On. She was his writer on that CBS show. And she couldn't. And she's like, she's like, he's like an ideal player.

He is down to work his ass off and do whatever y'all need him to do. Yeah. That's amazing. And he can perform too. She's like,

and if you give him a line, he knows the line. I was like, I'm so happy by this. Yeah. A friend of mine, I'm not gonna say who, who's like worked with him, he's like, he he's like if hamburger meat wished he was a real boy but also like but sweet like and

good to work with but like he's so gronk like he's almost just like i'm gronk like he's groot in a in his own way of like i like i play football and other than that it's just some details it is i i called him to my and my wife agreed i was like he seems like the most successful golden retriever of all right he's like yeah boy just a rip like if you shaved a golden retriever and it was ripped you're like that's that's gronk there's a shot of him pre-game where he was like you could tell he was like amped up and he was like breathing so hard he was like kind of confused by how hard he was breathing and like surprised by his own breath and like was just like frowning like what the fuck what did i fart what was that like like a dog yeah

so and he's so much smarter than people know oh sure that's my favorite part about gronk is just like as a hillbilly with an accent you're like yeah i think we're dumb keep thinking please uh all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk a little bit more about the super bowl and other uh stuff I'm Dr. Laurie Santos, host of the Happiness Lab podcast. As the U.S. elections approach, it can feel like we're angrier and more divided than ever. But in a new, hopeful season of my podcast, I'll share what the science really shows,

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the ad council and we're back so overall the super bowl i kind of agree with you that we're we're getting to a point. Maybe I'm just getting to a point. I don't know how universal this is. The ads were bad to the point that they felt like it would be hard for TV advertising to bounce back. It was so... Oh, really?

I don't know. I don't know. They seemed so cynical in a way that is, I guess, normal for the ads, but in the current world where people are maybe seeing a little bit more through. I don't think this is a generalized take. I don't think the earnestness with like. Can't do it. Well, selling people stuff while treating your employees bad enough to make a profit in a world where more and more people know the secret that capitalism is just, you know. Well,

I think that's what it is. I think the ads are the same. They've always been. Right. It's just that our nation as a whole has come to like um i don't like it's like it's a consciousness about like how we're being sold stuff and how it's because the funny thing is is that what happens is they were doing all this stuff. Like Mad Men came out and showed us all what the whole thing was in a dramatic, sexy kind of way, which is the way most Americans need to process information.

Sexy, sexy. Sexy and like kind of mean. Sexy fascism, get ready, y'all. Yes. Sexy fascism, get ready, y'all. Yes. And then it made people aware that, oh, they're just selling, this is all bullshit.

They're just making us feel a certain way. And then the money thing. I think it's that thing of like, they've been, okay, here's the best way to describe it. What they've been doing is slowly robbing us for decades. Yeah. And now the piggy bank is almost empty. And everyone is looking around being like, stop reaching in our piggy bank.

Right. It's almost empty. And the corporations don't know what to do like yeah like they're just looking like you dead in your eye and still reaching for your people like but i take money from you're like no mother bad corporate no but i don't know other thing give me your smiling at you handsomely while saying sexy right while saying in these trying times when i am robbing your piggy bank but you're a hero you're a hero you're my money um it's and i think it's just hard to like even the spectacle of commercials feels weird like in this time too like because the tone of the country like

earth but especially the u.s like to your point billy like some people have known this place stinks like shit a lot of people though are at that point where they go hold on is does something stink like shit in here we live in a horse stable right which is great so then on top of it to have like a commercial that's like all these you know bells and whistles and all this ridiculous shit it just rings hollow i think and it's like how a lot of people it's like it's like posting your birthday photos from tahiti in the pandemic for everyone to see like you're like okay that must have been nice for you but nobody else gives a fuck and in fact it's offensive and inappropriate and we're like, okay, that must have been nice for you, but nobody else gives a fuck. And in fact, it's offensive and inappropriate.

And we're moving past something. We don't know what it is yet, but this ain't it. And I think that's what... Even because I walked in to see one commercial and I was like, whatever. My whole thing wasn't like, oh, what's this? Oh, is this going to be funny? I was like, fuck this shit. It was like my first response.

Yeah, that's kind of... That Bruce Springsteen thing Was the most Pandering Did you not see everything This is a good time to let people know I was passive I will represent people who did not Watch the fucking Superbowl all the way

What happened with Bruce Springsteen Yeah so there was an ad with Bruce Springsteen It was like a short film It was pitched in the room, I'm sure. Short film, moody, black and white, cinematic. And the word film in cinematic was used over and over again. You're so fucking right. He's driving around in an open top Jeep in the winter,

in the dead of winter, bundled up. And you can tell the cold air is like bothering him and like that's part of like this is this is america man it's like well put a fucking top on your jeep man with i don't have to they're close-ups of him like feeling the dirt in the soil and talking about like coming together it's all based around this uh church this chapel in like the dead center of america and it's like we got to come together man there's no like right and left like you know just christ the best thing i saw about it was somebody was like someone tell jeep that that that one side is actual nazis right yes um and what the boss is gonna do that right straight from jersey i mean shout out to my jersey boy but what the fuck

so that's the thing there was also a uh sesame street david digs ad for one of the uh meal delivery like service things and like the that ad and the jeep ad they did not make me like those brands more they just made me like sesame street less and you know respect to be digs for getting the bag but like bruce springsteen is late enough in his career that like what the fuck is he doing like i don't know check from chrysler he does not need the check um well it's also that it's that he didn't need the check and also it's they fed into his and i've never and this is i know do not at me when I say this, motherfuckers. At Billy Wayne Davis.

If you do, follow me too. You can at me if you want. I understand Springsteen's greatness. I understand it. I don't give a shit about it because I'm from east tennessee right i'm not from fucking new jersey or whatever i've been there and what he's thinking about is not as awesome as he makes it sound i've been there a bunch i have family from like i have

extended family lives all through there and you guys are full of shit. But it's also, they, it's that ego. It's that thing of, like, you know who can bring them together? Bruce. Right. The boss. And you're like, fuck you, sing song man. Yeah.

Right. You know who we need? Just a really stern boss who has authority, almost like an authoritarian force who can just bring them together and make them some boss. Also someone that has never

actually worked a real job, but is so good at singing about working real jobs. Yeah, right. Man, he just knows that shit must suck. That shit must suck, man. I'm just a y'all yinzha fuck you um yeah so there are also like the traditionally bad ads there was some car

insurance ad that like a woman walks into her boss's office and it was like tom pulled his opinion out in front of me and he's like it's a big opinion and just like straightforward like the trope it's treating workplace sexual abuse as a fun trope to play with um just like it it goes in the hall of fame of ads that seem like they were just pulled from 90 super bowl 20 yeah like 1985 and just like transported directly to to the future um like the sales genie ads do y'all remember those oh yeah pierce nice car that shit was so me and my friend sean have not stopped talking about that that's the thing it's like for me personally, there's never been an ad that had more of like a jaw dropping effect on me than the Matrix trailer.

Right. Yeah. In 99 when I was like, what the fuck was that? Yes. I'm like, what? Because I went and saw it and hated it because it was not all the fighting like that trailer show. Right, because you're like, what the dude's like? I remember I was too young to really understand the actual message of that,

but I left mad at The Matrix because the trailer was fucking dope. Yeah. It looked like John Wick is what it looked like. I mean, all they did, it was that one shot where he just leaned leaned with it rocked with it oh words and they went bullet time and everyone and then it just came up what is the matrix.com and i was like see this is what the fuck i'm talking about where the fuck is that but that's a movie and it's not as much of an ad but i feel like that i don't think they'll i'll ever have that same experience with an advertisement which is why i'm like just just save your fucking

money you know like no one cares anymore if it's just going to be like, who can waste more money in a 30 second spot? Like there's better ways to do that. That would help. Scientology. They wasted it. Oh, what'd they do? They did a two minute long ad. Oh boy.

And at the end, it's like a back page ad with like a big buff guy. It was the perfect. And it's just like, curious? Are you like curious it was kind of the perfect ad i thought for the super bowl though because it blended completely in other than it was like one of those things with like shots of people struggling and like shots of stores being closed down and just the shit that you've been seeing in car commercials to this point like over and over again but then like there was weird scientology choir chanting song going on in the background that

like made it stand out a little bit but otherwise it was just like totally indistinguishable and felt like it was again like uh uh indemn like it just completely uh proved or like made all the other ads that it was indistinguishable from look bad because it was for a cult and like it's like oh yeah this is this is just a cult that people are um and also at the end they pulled a fast one where they put uh like it was an ad for scientology.tv and they put a thing that was like you can screen it on apple tv roku i'm like but it kind of made it look like it was like an apple tv show sure because they put it up there with the logo i was like ah you guys are scrappy i'm curious to to know what someone who actually got persuaded by that ad,

because they have no real frame of reference for what Scientology is, what that experience is like from, oh, okay, I'll check that, Scientology.tv, and how quickly that accelerates to you being like, all right, give me the reading. I'm here. Give me the six. It was, that was my first question when I saw it, was like, who's this for? Right.

Because like- What was it promising? No, there's not promising anything. It's just, it's like a vague, what it was, it was like one of those commercials that you see that's for some corporation that you don't really, remember BASF? Remember those?

Right, right, right. I think I brought this up. That one always cracked me up. It was like BASF, we don't make the products you love, we make the products you love better. And you're like, what the fuck's that mean? And no one still knows what that is. Right, right.

But that's what science, that's what that thing was, is like, hey, some stuff is bad. Other stuff is good. Here's people in the dirt, and here's some music. And then it just says curious, and you're like, no. You have maybe the opposite of curious. Your first month in college, basically. You're like, whoa, what?

That's weird. Yeah, okay. That didn't make a lot of sense, but I am curious. And I think it cracks me up too. It's like anyone that is curious, that's never heard of Scientology, is going to Google Scientology and a lot of different shit's going to pop up. It's not just going to be like, hey, L. Ron was pretty cool, right? It's going to be like, who is Leah Remini?

Who is- Right. I mean, let's see. When you actually Google it, it's all official things. Then, then. Yeah, they have the SEO game on lock. They got the SEO. I'm sure they do.

It's only until you get to top stories. Especially the day after a Super Bowl at. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Google the news. Don't Google the top websites. Google the news on the subjects. I love the Leah Rimini show. Oh, yeah?

I always had a crush on her since Zach Morris didn't deserve her. The way she is systematically destroying this church is impressive because it's not just like hey you guys were mean to me it's like each episode is like here's what they're doing with this here's what they're doing with this here's what and then the more i watch it the more i started laughing and be like they have meetings about her specifically every day oh yeah yeah. Well, especially because like her and Mike Rinder too. Mike Rinder was like their main attack dog. And they're like, they're teaming up to put the light on.

Oh, okay. I love him too. Cause he, when people come at him, there's no fear there. He's like, I wrote the book. Yeah, he's like, you guys know that this is my thing, right? And you're gonna try to fuck with me. All right. Right, he's like, you guys know that this is my thing, right? And you're going to try to fuck with me? All right. Right.

He's like the bane of Scientology harassment. He's like, I was molded in the darkness. I can merely play with it. It's like, oh, shit. Right. Also does sound like his voice a little bit. It does sound like his voice. But yeah, shout out to that Stacey Kurosi reference from Saved by the Bell.

Oh, man. No, I was super insane. Had a huge crush on her. Oh, my God. That beach club, I was like, what the fuck? I want to go there. Queens, not a great show. Yeah.

I mean, Kevin James is funny. He is. Yeah. I think we come for the toughness. We like the toughness of a Leah Remini character. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She is the real deal in person, too.

Oh, yeah. When we worked with her on a scientology podcast we still do and what you described is a process of mike render being like okay uh let me put it this way uh just in terms of any notes that he's ever received uh from like the legal side uh it's yeah he's so funny yeah it's helpful to have the guy who you know made well he has that calmness yes yeah that my friend matt and i were talking about this is like the movies get it wrong like when they do mafia movies or like like organized crime type movies when there's violence right there's like this build-up and then there's like this rage right no no no that's not how those dudes operate it's efficiency it's very calm you don't know violence is about to happen

until after it happens that's how those dudes, which doesn't play well cinematically. Right. But that's how that, and that's how he reminds, like he reminds me of one of those dudes, like, oh, no, you can't. Oh, you can't. Okay, so you're gone.

Okay. Yeah. But check out the podcast, Fair Game Scientology. All right, real quick on the game, which, you know, just from a zeitgeist perspective, like probably the least

interesting or impactful thing but um the brady thing is obviously a huge story it felt a little bit like watching an oceans 11 movie where like tom brady was like bringing back guys from his entire career to like help him pull off the big heist like he had like gronk and uh antonio brown who used to like kick the patriots ass and michael pierre paul who used to kick the patriots ass and it definitely like just in terms of him using old tactics it looked like they knew every play before the chief called it i'm not saying they spied but uh as a patriots fan i can make that joke uh and those refs clearly uh paid off but uh otherwise very impressive win uh well did you notice romo from the start kept saying hey the chiefs the d DBs hold.

That's what they did. Yeah, that's true. And before they even started calling holding, that first holding call, Roma had already said it like three or four times. He's like, this is how they defend. They hold. So if you decide to call that, they're in trouble.

So if they decide to start calling that, it's gonna fuck up the chiefs, and they did. Yeah, that was a problem. But you know who made them notice they were holding? That's Brady. Yeah, for sure. That he's making those throws not

for completions, just to get them to notice that stuff. I saw him, I wasn't a huge Brady fan. I wasn't impressed. How about this? I've never been a huge Brady fan. I wasn't impressed. How about this? I've never been a huge Brady fan. I wasn't impressed with him until probably seven or eight years ago.

I got to see him play the Patriots play against the Steelers from like a field level kind of thing. And just as a former athlete and it's fully in control. Hey, you're never not an athlete, Billy. Well. To this day. Yeah. Just different speeds we move at.

That's fair. Okay, that's fair. I was going to say, well, I don't know. That first step ain't what it used to be. That three-step drop is a three-step ankle turner. Yes, it is. Like, I don't know. The ground seems kind of mushy.

I'm not going to do that. But Brady is undeniable. As of, like, seeing him live, I was just like, and that's when the Steelers were real, real good. Right. And he was so, I just, the whole, I get chills thinking about it. And like the more success he has,

it's one of those things where like, I'm so glad I got to see him perform like that. Yeah. It was, and then I love the Ocean's 11 thing. I like, I liked it. Antonio Brown,

he brought him back and got him a, a ring after the, he couldn't cut it on the Patriots that made me so happy I really don't like Belichick I guess it's coming out does anyone it just angers me

like when I look at him I'm like fuck this guy even as a winner I never wanted to play that's the weird thing like I hate the Yankees I'm like, fuck this guy. Yeah, he does. Even as a winner, I never wanted to play. That's the weird thing. I hate the Yankees. And people are like, would you play for them? I'm like, in a second.

Right, right, right. Yeah, are you fucking dumb? Right. Yeah. Yeah. But the Patriots, I was like, would you play for them? I'm like, no, I probably wouldn't. I don't know. Yeah.

Doesn't seem like a good time over there. No, it doesn't. Yeah. Yeah. Based on what I've been reading. Yeah reading yeah no but they take care of their guys uh they didn't no they don't they forget they in fact did not in fact they did not uh the weekend miles did you watch the performance like this was this is exactly what I expected it to be it was like very cinematic and like the set was dope and the his voice is great and the songs are solid and uh he's not like a dancer or anything like you said Billy Wayne it's just like that's that is what that

dude does and um like he he seems extra a little extra like I've seen people who aren't dancers perform. And like there seems to be an extra level of you can see him like counting the steps in his head sometimes. And I don't know if that's part of his thing or if he's like has he incorporated that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's an athleticism to dancing yeah right that's that some musicians never developed right or self-confessed lovers of xanax yeah you ever try and turn up off a couple xanaxes you are not dancing you're moving like

an amoeba would on a microscope slide just like yeah you're just remembering how your legs work on Xanax right right right oh yeah I mean because he started off with like an old school track and I was like okay but then he was like montaging it into like all his newer stuff so I was just like whatever I my feelings are still the same like the second I hear new weekend stuff i'm like no no this isn't it i need it he was with me at my loneliest and horniest and most drug fueled and for him to be this like sanitized pop star i'm like this ain't it chief i need the fucking real shit i need the fucking i left my girl back home and i don't love her no more rather than the like

when they were the part where the house of balloons the oh that that part hit i was like oh shit are we gonna like do a house of balloons thing and they just like used the peppiest part of that song for like a minute and that was the opening right i think that was the close actually oh okay there was another one that was like and i was yeah whatever you know good good for you abel testify you know do your thing but yeah yeah keep it keep it dark and horny man don't you know how to do all this i thought there was some ego involved with not bringing any special guests in right that was a thought that I had heading in is like, this motherfucker better bring some special guests.

I was like, who's he gonna drop in because he doesn't move or anything? And that's fine. He's a studio guy and he's amazing at it. Yeah. But he's not... Not a one. Yeah, he's not MC Hammer.

Right. No, definitely not. Yeah. I mean, he didn't even wear hammer pants. That's an athlete. That's a bad boy. There's a reason he can move. To go bankrupt that quick, that's a gift too.

Shout out to MC Hammer. That's the Bay Area taking care of everybody right there. That's what that was. That's exactly what that was. Yeah. The dependency ratio where he had one stream of income coming to him And then he was paying for Everybody

And that was I bet E40 I bet 2 Shore I bet everybody got a little bit Anna Hosnier Super producer Anna Hosnier She was in high school she talked about that That's good Paid for her college

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that they're not making a better case against him. The whole, the whole, but can't, can a case even be made? You know what I mean? That's the thing. It's like you're,

it's, they call it a trial, but all that Donald Trump's defense has to do is give Republican senators like a rhetorical, logical, safe off ramp to be like, oh, well, I couldn't have done it because it's unconstitutional. But it's like, but it isn't. And we're talking how it's it most people are saying that's the lamest fucking argument but it doesn't matter if it's a lame argument because that's just all they need so they can go around and justify their inaction but it's like a really hard didn't his lawyers quit he's got some new ones but that's what i'm saying. If your lawyers, who, by the way, are not probably great morally ethical people to begin with, go in and they're like, hey, we can get you.

This is pretty easy. And he's like, no, don't do it that way. I want to do it this way. And they're like, oh, no, bye. and they're like, oh, no, bye. That says volumes to me as someone that's had to go deal with courts. Right, right, right. When a lawyer walks away from you,

you are fucked. Yeah, but that's why we have these weird, ghoulish lawyers he has. Like this one guy, Bruce Castor, he literally declined to press charges against Bill Cosby in 2005 when he was a DA or a local prosecutor. And also fought back against his other convictions, too. And the other lawyer is a dude who was, I think, working with Jeffrey Epstein, like, up until he, quote, unquote, died of suicide in jail. Yeah, so, like, those are the two main guys. Yeah, right, exactly.

Like, who and where's Tupac throughout all this? Oh, Ken Layhart. I got a Ken Layhart attack. I got to go. Right, right. So, yeah, I mean, this is a, that's why I'm, like, on one level, like like I definitely see the maneuvering Jamie Raskin is doing as one of the impeachment managers. And it's great. But I don't know.

Like, it almost has to be this thing where the case gets enough public opinion to shift that that's when senators in the Republican Party are going to go. Right. Oh, shit. But even then, will they? Like, that's the thing. I think so i think what they'll do is they they'll throw him under the bus like he's gonna be their scapegoat there's a couple of them that can't get out from underneath it because they went

hardcore loyal in a way that they can't come back from. Yeah. But the majority of those Republicans. Just need 12 people. Exactly, and they. Yeah, it's just so weird. They'll be like, it's him, it wasn't us. I'm just an old conservative, that's who I was. I'm not one of these guys.

You know, I'm just here on behalf of Dow Chemicals. Okay, come on. I was here before this white supremacy talk. This guy. This guy over here is the one that's bad. It's not me. Right, right. That's their whole, it's like a corporate move.

Yeah. No, of course, right? And then rather than saying you're wrong, you double down, which is the par for the course for them but yeah i think it's that's the part i'm waiting to see because the polling now incrementally goes up where technically a majority of americans are like convict him and only 34 percent of people are like he should be able to hold office uh after this so but at the same time you see how many people are also like the base just has there.

No one is willing to stand up to the base. And the ones that do like, you know, Liz Cheney, not she's standing up to them, but just trying to fill the power vacuum to try and rush control of the party. That the base, the reaction of the base is something that's factoring in to a lot of these politicians thinking, too. of these uh politicians thinking too so i don't it's like one of those things where like i'm not going to suddenly think that now they understood what the oath was that they took because none of them do like on either side like a lot of people are they're just there for their own needs or to write their own tax laws for themselves and their friends um so i i hope you know good luck i hope there's a compelling case enough that even for the people who want to have their heads so deep in the ground buried from the reality that they can at least begin to be like, fuck, it's so bad on paper out loud. Well, I look, I watched this documentary.

I think it was on Showtime. It's Agents of Chaos. And I may get that wrong, but but i was watching last night and they were they had some people that were talking about the russia stuff in the beginning and they make some great they just made some great distinctions about the words the media use and things like that but collusion that's not a fucking thing that's not a it's not a legal thing it's not it's nothing but they it sounds sexy. They colluded. So they used that word.

But then it was a point that you couldn't actually get proven in court. Yeah. And what they were like, what it is, it's more like seduction. Where it's like, you know, it's like you see an attractive person at a bar, and you all make eye contact.

You buy them a drink. You go have a fucking drink at the table. And then you go back to your room. There's no written thing down on a piece. And I'm just quoting this lawyer who was talking about it. He's like, there's no written piece of paper. It's like, you and I are going to go fuck now because this happened. Right. That's like Russia and his campaign weren't like,

this would help you and me. Now let's sign this deal. That's not, it's just more like they had, and they're like, hey, we'll give you a little information. You got to do some of this stuff. And that's what kind of happened. It's just tough to prove without a doubt that it happened. Yeah.

Well, I think the other thing too, is if only the people that were actually deciding the fate of this quote unquote trial, weren't the people that were actually part of and victims of the crime either. You know what I mean? Like if this were an actual jury trial,

obviously it would be completely different because they're like, yeah, I don't know what this, like the prosecution, like, yeah, I don't know what this like the prosecutor like. Yeah, that whole thing they just said is nonsense. We actually this is absolutely possible for us to prosecute this. And I think the lawyers, even though this First Amendment thing that they're trying to hide behind, there are degrees in which the First Amendment will protect you. Incitement is one of those things that does not protect you. So, you know, like those kinds of things, like jury be like oh right so that's bullshit but now you just have a bunch of

quote-unquote jurors who are like hey man just give me the words i can say out loud to completely just get past this thing and you know squirm a few campaign bucks uh from his supporters republicans don't say like this the freedom of speech thing cracks me up because like i have my freedom to speak you're like but it's also illegal to incite a riot those right those are two things that are written threats yeah you can't leaders like what you can't it's also yeah you can say you want to off whoever's in charge i'm not going to say his office but that's also illegal right yeah that will cause you problems that's another knock knock guess who we hear because you said some shit if it were the other way around if public opinion was pushing the democrats to do

something in this like in deciding this trial like then there there might be some hope. If it was, like you said, actual everyday Americans, like a jury of his peers, there would be hope. But the fact that it's Republicans, man, they don't let facts sway them no matter what. They're still voting, even though everyone's like, man, the Republicans are uh fucked up over this they still voted 100 party solidarity against the bailout that is popular with their base that is

popular with americans they yeah they still just 100 reject because they don't work for americans right no that's right that's why the commercials and stuff that's that's part of like i think we've all started to realize all that yeah that's why the commercials didn't have the effect they used to have it's because we've been lied to for so long and now they can't it's like yo and the lies are particularly like lame now because like we've already seen it all we're like you're saying what now to explain this shit to get the fuck out of here with this. Well,

it's like they're reaching. It's like, they're staring at us, reaching into the piggy bank. We smack their hands. And then they say, but I need a hot dog. And you're like,

I'll give you a fuck. There's a hot dog right there. I don't want that one. I want, you're like, right, right. Oh man,

that is straight, straight out of the mind you're right. Right, right. That's, oh man, that is straight, straight out of the mind of a father, uh, because that is, that is like pure child logic. I don't want that one. I want the one that I initially said I wanted. Yeah.

Uh, for no reason. But it's the same one. No. Oh God. Fine. Take my fucking piggy bank. It's the same one,

except this one's been on the floor and has stuff stuck to it i don't care that's the one i want um and if we're being like and i saw this i don't know who said it it was such a good point is like most of our elected officials wouldn't get hired at any job right no right they couldn't get hired at their companies that's the craziest shit and how many of them didn't even have fucking jobs actually you know just went to law school and just did all this other like resume shit to appear like a human but you're like i went to you know fascist capitalist finishing school in harvard and i'm ready to fuck the earth as a senator nice smile like it really yeah i mean mccain said it when

he came back from vietnam he was very honest he's like i had a good story that's why i went into politics right he was so honest i was like you guys listen that's what it is right right and josh holly on the other hand is like i'm a i'm a salt of the earth person never mind i went to england to finish up my finishing and i've i'm totally ivy league educated i'm one of you farmers look at my overalls i have on it's just so transparently uh it's just bullshit but yeah like what i don't it takes more people to take that next step to be like but then why would they be politicians because that's where they can fucking rig the game to benefit them and most other people get the fucked end of the stick that's why that's why they're there it's not don't like most people

have to let go of this idea that there are these like benevolent politicians there are a few uh like scattered throughout but for the most part these are career people who are looking out for themselves and it's playing out like this is the end game when you're looking out for yourself as like you can take this high office and now be like, I can actually kind of tinker with the laws now from over here. It is. Yeah, it's. It's not even looking out for themselves. I mean, ultimately, yes, it is.

But it's not in the way that most people think. Like, it's not like I'm going to get super rich or I'm going to do this thing. And then it's No. People call me senator, and I get to walk through doors most people don't, and then I get all these little... It's these weird ego perks. Look at Ted

Cruz. That is a power-addicted slug of a human being, because at this point it's so clear he stands for nothing but being in power because he is scrambling to find any kind of base now yeah it's fucking absurd i mean like it's funny because i wonder if he had stood up to trump when he said your wife's ugly you know and what that would have because i feel like that's

the kind of thing that for like the red meat maga set later on like they always make fun of him like they've always made fun of ted cruz because he's never actually stood up for even to trump that now in trying to court these people he's already self-owned in front of them so they're like no no no no no like you were useful but don't get it twisted like you have you don't have any of the trappings of a politician that would seduce us because you were a useful idiot to this other person so well and he got into power through block voting that's ted cruz's whole thing is like second baptist church it, it's all these, he, the people don't like him. He went in, in the Texas way of politics,

is like, he went to this preacher, they have a huge voting block, so you went over that dude, that dude tells everybody to vote for this dude. That's how that works. Yeah. Yeah, when you say people, the people don't like him that is you are speaking of all people like the people as a human race don't like most of texas does

he is repellent yes um all right he's figured out he's gerrymandered and how and figured out how to get power in texas which is well quick, we do want to talk, give an update on a story that relates to COVID-19. We had reported that restaurants will be reopening at 25% capacity for indoor dining in New York on Valentine's Day. And that has been changed to this Friday. They're moving it up, baby. A little sooner. The way Cuomo says is, this is so ridiculous. He said, but now he's talking about restauranteurs,

but they quote, they have made the point that they would like to open a couple of days earlier so they can be ready for Valentine's Day. And, you know, that's a reasonable request, as he believed it. So you want to open indoor dining. Look, granted, I understand the numbers are somewhat improving, but that's in no case any kind of reason to be like, all right, baby, let's eat with our mouths open inside. So we have that uh even at 25 capacity no thank you but more than anything what about the people that have to work in the

restaurants with the people who are addicted to being served they're heroes man they're just heroes hey man you're a hero you're a hero man like can i hero, man. Can I have some money? No. You can have more hero. Because the other thing is, in sort of preparing for this, people who worked in restaurants, they were made eligible to get vaccinated. But we all have seen how the vaccination rollout's going. It's fucking not. So it's not easy for these people to get vaccinated. And now they're saying, wait, I go to work on friday in with now people indoors again what is going on um it's just really and apparently you know like there's a

collection or you know association of restaurant owners and things we're lobbying the governor because that's how all of this shit works but it's just like every time this issue comes up because a lot of the the way the stories are, people even comment on like what you can understand why the restaurants would want to open. But no one ever says like pivots to the thing is like, why isn't the government subsidizing the lost wages and forgiving rent? So we may do the thing that's safest rather than being like I like because we're still most people are still caught up and like, yo, you got to get your hustle on no matter what, no matter what, no matter what. But I don't even like on every news thing, like you'd hope even someone who's not, I get it. If you're on the CDC, you don't want to start talking policy or whatever, cause you're going to speak, stick to narrowly what you know, but any other commentator would be like, uh, y'all, I don't

know why we keep doing this. Why aren't we, why can't we pivot to the fact that we can afford to actually float everybody until we can get this thing managed and under control? But whatever. Fine. Fine. We don't have to talk about it. Yeah. There's all sorts of shit happening with the vaccine rollout.

Johnson & Johnson is supposed to have a one-shot vaccine coming. shot vaccine coming. There's also issues popping up with regards to whether the current vaccines are battling new strains. South Africa just pushed pause on AstraZeneca vaccine, but there's just like a lot of messiness that it seems like in a global emergency, we should be able to get around. Like,

it's like, well, we ordered it from this company. So how are we going to like reverse that? And it's like, we ordered it from this company so how are we gonna like reverse that and it's like you know just like is it good right you bought a bunch of drugs you didn't even try them out right but yeah i mean it's not easy they're the no the virus is mutating and you know we the vaccine has mutated with it but it does seem like i don't know we should be there should be more collectivism than uh like well this company is also working on a thing as is

this company because they deem it profitable right it seems like that's exactly what it is it's yeah it's it's not about a common good it's it's about profits it's money and it's they've done math and they've done math, and they're like, well, we can lose this many lives, and this will be fine, and this is this. But it's not. It's just, I think it's like what we were saying in the beginning. It's all coming to this head.

Yeah. It's the same as the commercials. They can't lie to us anymore. All their bullshit is just so clear it's like with it's like with kaepernick now we can we can go back and forth and argue like was he good enough to be in the league you know did he know that his performance and whatever it doesn't matter because he was right about his protest it was he's so right about it about all the stuff and they tried to shut him down and do all that stuff but it what he did was so powerful that you couldn't deny that he was wrong. Right.

And then it just, and now the NFL, I mean, it's an end racism on the back of their helmet. Like all that shit now, we were like, that motherfucker called them out at the right time. Right. And now it's like, and now you look like you're full of shit. And I think that's, yeah, it's like happening at many levels where we're like, dude, we're done with this shit.

Like it's- Like even if he was aware, he aware he's like listen i'm probably out of the league just from a from a performance thing but what i can do right now right yeah it's make this fucking thing right but even then you look at some of the and then i will identify all the fucking racist and all the you know sure right yeah yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's like you, it's, yeah. I think that's what's interesting about these sort of momentous gestures and being courageous or standing up for something is when you're there, like, yeah, it will attract a lot of negative attention because people don't like the fact that you are bringing light to the darkness. But yeah, to your point, Billy also that also baited a lot of people to come out and show their stinking asses to the people and then they're like ah ah oh okay see that's what it took see that's i knew you were on that shit and then that's all so there is a yeah it's just weird how like in almost every level of our society like we're having these

moments where slowly it's where i'm hoping like to your point, Billy, like I'd like to think that most people are getting tired of the bullshit and can see it for what it is. And then we need to move into that next phase of, OK, so what the fuck are we going to do about it now? Well, it's a it's a power shift for so long because of the way they could manipulate media uh the powers that be were few right yeah now that the way the internet and the way we communicate isn't controlled even though they're trying and they can't they opened up that fucking box and they can't put it back in and it's beautiful that it's all getting out so the power is spreading out yeah yeah yeah and then the people are realizing like hey there's like a thousand people on this planet that have most of the money yeah i think we could put this on it right but how yeah and that's starting to come to it's it's

it's everyone getting annoyed at all the commercials it's it's it's a the process is a little slower than we want it to be yeah but once it gets going which is what it's doing right now there's a there's a paradigm shift that's happening where they've taken too much capital from it. Yeah. That and also the amount of commentators that are out there, there are now more than ever, more people being like,

yo, this stinks like shit. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Fuck this bull, this is bullshit. My favorite day is when Biden, Biden's inauguration, I was on the fucking line being like, all right, now let's get him to do this, this, and this. And people were like, I gave this one day to be happy.

Aren't you happy? I'm like, no, I don't like him. Right. And we can do better. We can do so much better. And we have to get after him. Because if we don't, there's another Trump coming. Yep.

Right. Yep. Billy Wayne, as always. But I'm rich already, and I think minorities is fine. Right. Right. Right. It's been a pleasure having you, man.

Where can people find you and follow you? Just Google Billy Wayne Davis if you need the socials or whatever i have a podcast coming out february 21st that will just be available on patreon just to make it simple there'll be no ads or anything it'll be four dollars a month and you'll get at least four podcasts out of it a month uh what's the show podcast wayne Davis. Podcast Wayne Davis. Yeah. All right. Pretty simple. There you go. And then I have the cannabis podcast called Grown Local that is picking up steam. Yeah, yeah.

It's pretty great. Is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Sarah Tiana, she's a great joke writer, a very, very funny comedian. Sarah Tiana, she's a great joke writer, a very, very funny comedian. She is just, if Tom Brady wins a 10th Super Bowl, then maybe I'll buy into the hype. Miles, where can people find you?

What's a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also other podcasts, 20 day fiance, you know, talking about 90 day smoking on that, that shit. Um, let's see a tweet. I like,

I don't really have a tweet that I like. I haven't been on the social media road in the last couple of days. So I will, I will defer my tweet. Jack, do another one. Okay. Throw another,

throw another tweet on the barbie for me good day uh it's me jack you can find me at jack underscore o'brien uh let's see a couple tweets i've been enjoying at lubchansky tweeted thinking about removing the mysterious green ribbon that i've always had around my neck uh and then just a bunch of uh super bowl tweets from a couple nights ago that i enjoyed um a sunday mcmansion hell 1976 uh tweeted if you still call any sport sports ball i hate you uh thank you uh thank you uh brody gupta said, summarizing the Super Bowl for my best friend by saying, it's basically about these two groups of adults that are obsessed with this one ball.

I remember, can I do another one? Yeah, please. Ginny Johnson, she's very funny. She's from Houston. So funny, yeah. She said, this is the second worst happy ending Robert Kress ever gotten in Florida. Did you see Friends with Bun B?

Oh, yeah. I met him with her. Actually, that's when I met her. I was talking to him. She's like so age-tangling with him. I'm like, what the fuck? Because I remember following her because I think she's like a sneakerhead, kind of.

Yeah, she's cool. Yeah, and then I was like, what the fuck? You're kicking with Bun B? What the fuck is that? Well, she was like on the news or something in Houston. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think she did sports stuff in Houston.

Yeah, and then I met her at a, that's where I met her. I was in a green room in Houston at a festival, and I was like, man, it smells like fucking weed, and I turned around and Bun B was down there. And I was like, oh, hey! And I know him a little bit because of Ron Funches. They're friends. And then I just said something about his

weed and he's like, and then she was standing there. And she's taller than both of us. It was hilarious. Nice. Yeah, she's awesome. Chelsea Peretti also tweeted just some some real parent shit that i identified with my son is crying because he wants to be a flamingo quote not a pretend one yep um i like when they just yale and you don't know why they're mad yeah and they're and then you try to argue with logic and it's just so dumb it's logic me trying

to calm him down from uh wanting a dream he just had to not be over is way dumber than anything he says during the course of that meltdown right i think my favorite thing my two-year-old does at this right now is he's getting into tantrums. He's trying to figure out how to do them. Yeah. But then he also will lay down very slow as not to hit his head or something. Uh-huh. And then start the tantrum.

And then do the tantrum. So I can't. I was just laughing at him the whole time. I'm like, dude, I can't take this seriously. You're like, can I use this bit? It's just so clearly calculated, I can't take this seriously. You're like, can I use this bit? It's just so clearly calculated, I can't take it serious. Right, right. We crave authenticity.

I need some rage and know that you're just in a real mood right now. Right now, it just feels like manipulation, and I can't do it. All right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes,

where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song we ride out on, Miles. What are we riding out on today? episode as well as the song we ride out on miles what are we riding out on today i was feeling real spooky and vibey over the weekend uh and i was listening to some interesting music and i forgot about this album i don't know if you remember radio dread which was all reggae covers of radio um but i was like that's right i was like this like, this shit came out when I was in college, I remember. But this is a track from that. It's exit music for a film,

but reggae style by my man Sugar Minot. So yeah, put this in your ears, vibe out to it, because I'm telling you this, if you fuck a Radiohead and you smoke weed, this whole album is so entertaining, but it's weird when Radiohead and you smoke weed uh you should this whole album is so like entertaining but like it's weird when Radiohead like Radiohead hits in a completely different genre of music where you're still like singing along to like Paranoid Android but there's still like a reggae

bubble underneath like on the wall so uh yeah this is exit music for a film Sugar Me Not from the album Radio Dread by the Easy Star All Stars. Some upbeat depression. Is that what it was? Yeah. Exactly. It's wild. It's wild.

I'm sad, but I don't feel bad about it. That's what this whole year is. I mean, I know things are bad, but we gotta find the good. Right. You know?

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