The Daily Zeitgeist - Deep Thoughts On Astrophysics And The Door From ‘Titanic’ 03.27.24

Episode Date: March 27, 2024

In episode 1648, Jack and guest co-host Sofiya Alexandra are joined by comedian and co-host of The Bechdel Cast, Caitlin Durante, to discuss... Baltimore’s Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses... Fox ...News Blames Migrants, We Don’t Understand The Universe And Never Have? The Titanic Door That Kate Winslet Selfishly Monopolized Just Sold For Over $700,000 and more! Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse live updates: Ship hits major Baltimore bridge with construction crew on it At least 6 people unaccounted for after cargo ship crash levels Baltimore bridge Baltimore Ship Lost Power and Sent Mayday Call Just Before Bridge Disaster Why did the Baltimore bridge collapse so quickly? Engineering experts explain tragic structural failure Baltimore Mayor Pleads On CNN For News Networks To Quit Showing Key Bridge Disaster Video Over And Over We Don’t Understand The Universe And Never Have? The Titanic Door That Kate Winslet Selfishly Monopolized Just Sold For Over $700,000 LISTEN: Je Ne Bois Pas Beaucoup by Les Ya Toupas Du ZaireSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
Starting point is 00:00:39 starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you
Starting point is 00:01:25 get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 331, episode three of Dirt Ailey's iGeist Day, production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Wednesday, March 27th, 2024. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Exercise is overrated. My body is old as fuck. Only stretching. No plunges.
Starting point is 00:02:00 I don't give a fuck now. I agree with Trump. plunges i don't give a fuck now i agree with trump we have limited heartbeats that is a last resort papa roach aka from e-seeker fool 1229 in reference to some advice i shared that i recently got from my personal trainer donald j trump, that maybe exercise is bad. Once you get old, exercise hurts. And maybe we do have a limited number of heartbeats. And you don't want to waste them. Bro, you got 10 reps per muscle. Be careful.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Yeah, that's it. You only got 10 reps. That's each muscle. Don't waste them. That's right. Don't waste them. I got 10 curls per bicep for my lifetime. That's what I've been given.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Anyways, that voice, you asked, that voice, that lovely voice coming all the way from Paris. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our second seat by a very special guest co-host, talented writer, stand-up comedian, advice columnist, podcast host. Please welcome to the show the brilliant and talented Sophia Alexandra! Thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Thank you so much. So excited. Thank you. Thank you for having me. I don't have an AKA. That's okay. That's no problem. You're coming to us all the way from Paris. Listen to the pronunciation. So much motherfucking cheese.
Starting point is 00:03:23 You are not ready. I could tell by the way you the pakari that you've just been walking through clouds of cigarette smoke for the past couple days and that's how you know you're doing it right. Yeah, delicious man.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Baguettes with cigarettes in the middle. That's what I have for breakfast every morning here. Yes. Well, we are thrilled, Sophia. You and I are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very talented writer, stand-up comedian,
Starting point is 00:03:56 podcast host of the Bechdel cast. Taking down the patriarchy one movie at a time. They also happen to have a master's degree in film. Ever heard of it? Film? Specifically screenwriting, but you know. I thought it was pronounced hilm.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Hilm? It's pronounced cinéma. Cinéma. Oh, I am familiar. If you say it like that. How you say cinéma? Also the most anagrammable name in the english language it is caitlin bonjour i'm not in france to be clear yeah aka latin dancer uti sorry i do have to add that
Starting point is 00:04:40 just so people know when we say your name is anagrammable uh we're not fucking around here all right lauren d titanic lord hello titanic and we do have a titanic story crazy yes because i know the story of kaylin and titanic has just been it's one line it's a single line it's not a venn diagram it's just a line exactly so the fact that the name is anagrammable so i i'll kill myself tonight i don't care we can all rest finally knowing that yeah this is the apex so we could reach as a society is this yeah no it is it it doesn't make sense how anagrammable your name is, but it is perfect. Thank you. How are you doing, Caitlin? Oh, I'm just fine. The end. What super classy European city are you in right now? Well, I am in the classically beautiful European city of Los Angeles, California, but I actually will be in Europe,
Starting point is 00:05:43 but I actually will be in Europe. Not to blow all my plugs at the very top here, but I will be in Europe in Paris. Okay. Doing standup comedy and seeing Hans Zimmer in concert. Thank you so much. And after that, I'm going to Berlin and Copenhagen and Dublin and then the UK for a Bechtelcast tour.
Starting point is 00:06:08 So everyone should come and see me. I'm doing stand up and or Bechtelcast shows in these places. So that's amazing. Caitlin, when are you going to be in Paris? Just in case any Paris listeners are listening. That's you're so right to ask me that. The Parisian vibes of this podcast, by the way, are. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Croissant? Off-lead charts. I will be in Paris in early May. The dates are, I'm going to say, like, May 6th through the 9th or 5th through the 8th or something like that. Amazing. I have all of the dates for all the shows I'm doing on my website caitlyndurante.com slash shows. So all the info is there.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Thank you so much for sharing. I hope everybody comes to see Caitlin. Thank you so much. Oh my god. And Berlin? Berlin. Have either of you done comedy in France or Germany? How you say Germany?
Starting point is 00:07:08 I've done comedy in Paris and I've done comedy in Luxembourg. I recently learned that the movie from a podcast, Blank Check, that the movie Green Book, the Academy Award winner Green Book, is a massive hit in france like interesting they love so is jerry lewis i know what is this is my question i'm nervous for you both going into the french comedy scene armed with like your vibes are not very Green Bookian, I would say. I take that as a major compliment. And I appreciate that. This will be my third time doing comedy in Paris. Huge brag for me. I mean, God damn.
Starting point is 00:07:56 The first time I did it, actually, it might be the fourth. I don't know. I've done it a bunch of times. One of the times I did it, it was on a boat that i swear the boat was called savage garden yes which is the name of a amazing incredible band that we all know and love yes and i did that fucking rules it was little known fact actually that band is named after the boat yes oh my gosh all their songs were recorded on that boat just like how i'm starting a band called titanics lauren d titanics family time band named after amazing well uh i i do not fear for either of you i fear for the city of paris because they're going to catch some uh
Starting point is 00:08:47 sharp comedy you know i don't know i don't know what the fuck i'm talking about uh all right caitlin we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment my grandfather joe biden my comedy show that's caitlin's thinking right now sharp jokes that are gonna cut you anyways i know how it goes you put the razor blades in the rain rain jar anyways we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first a couple of things we're talking about major upsetting news out of baltimore early this morning the francis got key bridge fucking just collapsed so we'll we'll just talk about that briefly and also check in with cable news because they are having a literal field day they're just yeah the fox news has some theories about this bridge collapse so we'll we'll check
Starting point is 00:09:39 in with that and we'll also talk about uh we the fact that we don't understand the universe and never have? Question mark. And never will. And maybe never will. Like, according to the Jim Webb telescope, you might know it as the James Webb, but we're pretty tight at this point. You're like headline. All of us on the universe saying what? Do what? Do what?
Starting point is 00:10:07 Qua? Yeah, literally the entire astrophysicist community all got together and said, do what? When looking through the Jim Webb telescope and discovering that it's not telling us what we thought it should be. Things are expanding at irregular rates. Might be no Big Bang is the basic, is the gist. The Big Bang might be a thing somebody just made up. And this is not what we thought it was. Yeah, it's a television show on CBS.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Shut the fuck up. Man, young Sheldon are so mad right now. It was big Sheldon that put this conspiracy out there. It was all for that sitcom. We'll talk about
Starting point is 00:10:58 the Diddy raids maybe. Maybe we won't. I don't know. We'll talk about the Titanic door that Kate Winslet floated to safety on. Are you kidding me? With the fucking premiere expert on Titanic on the pod right now? I know. Do you believe it? This might be the only story we talk about to be honest
Starting point is 00:11:16 with everybody. But it sold for over $700,000 at auction along with other movie memorabilia. Yeah, I bought it. It was me. Flex. Allabilia. Yeah, so. It was me. Flex.
Starting point is 00:11:27 All of that. Plenty more. But first, Caitlin Durante, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Okay. Well, obviously, I'm looking at Shrek stuff. at shrek stuff and i found out slash i think someone told me someone dm'd me on instagram and told me about something called shrek's adventure which is like a i don't think it's quite a theme park but it's like some sort of attraction in london and i will be going to London on said Bechtelcast tour and we're doing the Shrek-tanic tour aka we're covering Shrek and Titanic on this tour so I have to be going to Shrek's adventure
Starting point is 00:12:16 and then that sent me down a rabbit hole and I discovered that there's a whole section of Universal Studios in Singapore called Far Far Away. So there's a whole Shrek theme park, basically. And so I just have to go to all of these places. So I was just Googling and doing some research, looking at the photos. And so that's my recent search history. I'm wondering if Shrek is popular in France. Is it in any way comparable to the other live experience that has been getting a lot of press recently? And that the man who put on said it quote unquote ruined his life. Oh, I thought you were doing a roundabout plug of Caitlin's live show again.
Starting point is 00:13:00 No, I was talking about that Willy Wonka man that truly ruined people's lives. Yeah, the fire fest of children's attractions. I mean, not according to the website. because these families in the photographs look very happy taking a picture next to a man in a shrek rubber mask in front of i think that's actually shrek oh yeah sorry my bad next to shrek himself in front of big ben just look and waving at somebody in the sky off in the distance wow yeah so i'm going to that and i'm gonna have the best time yeah will you wave in the sky off in the distance. Wow. Yeah. So I'm going to that and I'm going to have the best time. Yeah. Will you wave to the sky for me, Kaelin, when you go?
Starting point is 00:13:51 Of course. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, Shrek. I feel like mileage may vary based on what country you're in, but Shrek is universal and international. Literally a property of universal. Yeah. And that's what I was talking about.
Starting point is 00:14:09 How much more universal couldn't you get? Right. Hello. I actually just went to Universal Studios with my kids for the first time. Oh my gosh. On Saturday morning. Pretty great. Did you go to the mummy ride?
Starting point is 00:14:22 No. We just, we hit the... It was pouring rain out. Highly recommend that. Go while it's pouring rain because then the lines are very short. And we hit the Simpsons ride. Did you go to Waterworld, the show?
Starting point is 00:14:37 No, we had to leave right before everybody was going to Waterworld. I know. But the theme, the concept of water world i mentioned i was explaining it because i thought we were gonna have time to do it to my kids oh my god i'm actually hearing that and not going yeah my six-year-old like two days later was like what was that movie what was that world you were talking about where everything's like, there's no land? I was like, son, you're talking about Waterworld. And I can tell you are of me and mine kind because, yes, that I remember when that shit came out.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Like, oh, my God. I was so excited. It's so wild that you're bringing this up. Wait, the world is water? It's water world. It is wild that you're bringing this up because this is very relevant to my overrated. Oh, no, let's go right to your overrated. If it's water world, the ride I will, again, I've already promised to kill myself once.
Starting point is 00:15:43 This podcast does not make me go there again which is you're reaching your uh you're almost halfway to your average for appearances on the daily it's true it's not water world the it's not even a ride it's a show it's an experience and therefore well actually i okay this is not my overrated but i do kind of think it's overrated because i don't want to watch a show i want to be a part of it it put me on a water world ride you know but you will get splashed caitlin and then you're a part of it yeah okay i guess my actual overrated is kevin costner wow yeah that's the cost i hate him so much i definitely deeply hate that man i don't know how he is as a person i don't know what his politics are in real
Starting point is 00:16:35 life but him as an actor i can't stand him sorry everybody who's obsessed with field of dreams i think that movie's overrated everyone's gonna come to come for me and slaughter me, probably. But there, I said it. I think he sucks. Okay, say more. I want to hear more. I don't think his politics are great. So I think you can feel okay about that.
Starting point is 00:17:01 I mean, he looks like his politics are not good. We're not shocked about it he actually like really tried to be a leftist and like his like every time he looked in the mirror he's like no this doesn't work this is yeah he's like no one is gonna accept me look at my everything like i could just like you could plant me in a field and a fucking country club would sprout up around me you know like i just look like that i look so republican you can't get around that republican face no it's just it's it's overwhelming yeah it's not even given moderate face you know what i mean that's like bruce willis that's like okay he's a moderate yeah he seems pissed off enough about certain things kevin costner's just straight repub face that's yes yeah yeah no piece of shit kind of knows it
Starting point is 00:17:51 at some level that like gives him gastrointestinal distress but ultimately his conscious mind is not aware that he's a complete piece of shit and his politics are like constructed to prop up some idea that he's not a piece of shit. Wait, I need to know, though, Caitlin, other than Field of Dreams, least favorite Kevin Costner movies? I mean, I also don't like the movie Waterworld. I think he... It's not the experience. It's right. The experience is actually better than the movie.
Starting point is 00:18:20 It really is. When you take a spectacle movie and spend so much money on it and it doesn't work, and then you just take the main actor out of it and put a bunch of stunt people on a live stage to do it in front of you, and that stands the test of time, there might be a problem with your casting on that first yeah you know they're just like what if like the you know kevin what if water world except no kevin costner yeah what if he wasn't there yeah i honestly would maybe like it better than um i don't buy him at all as a romantic lead in the bodyguard i don't like the whole narrative around dances with wolves i've never seen yellowstone but i'm sure i'd hate it oh it's his robin hood okay no give me robin hood medin tights and thank you i don't want this like serious there's something there's something about him that is really convincing as an athlete and
Starting point is 00:19:27 like that's why i i do like him when he's playing an athlete including in the robin robin hood movie because he's just like a guy who's really good at shooting arrows like that all he really is but i think like his charisma is the same as a great athlete which is like not there's not much there like they've just been never had to like develop a personality so that's why he's so convincing as that is like he just has it's like if you had a an athlete act in a movie like that that kind of feel like you always feel like you're kind of getting an interview with a baseball player after a baseball game and like it's like if travis kelsey had like an extra minute after this yeah if travis kelsey was like slightly more boring
Starting point is 00:20:19 you know yeah he did this like he presented some award at a couple Oscars ago. It might have even been, like, the 2023 Oscars. Anyway, he, it was, like, drivel. I don't know what he was saying. He had no charisma. He was, I think it might have been for Best Picture. I don't know. It was something, and it was awful, and he's not good at talking and i hate his
Starting point is 00:20:46 whole thing this whole vibe yeah what is something you think is underrated okay i'm really scraping at the bottom of the barrel here because i've just been on this show so many times and i'm running out of things brag but i do think this is true. I think that Crispix cereal is very underrated. That's right. Crispix with an X. Are those the little hexagons? Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:15 I was going to say octagon, but there's no way they're octagons. They don't have eight sides. They have to have six sides. Honestly, Caitlin. I'm not a fan. They're good counterpoint they're good all right you need to correct it you need to spice them up with some you know sugar and milk yeah yeah they're not sugary enough but they have a very unique consistency. Very unique mouthfeel.
Starting point is 00:21:45 They do. And sometimes I'll just like eat them as a snack instead of like eating chips. I just want something like dry crispy. They go hard dry. Yeah. They go pretty hard dry. And they're very good in like a party mix. So everyone's all about that Chex Mix.
Starting point is 00:21:58 No way. No how. Crispix Mix. It's about Crispix Mix. Crispix Mix. Crispix. St. Crispix Mix. Christmas Crispix Mix. Mm-hmm. and i always make it at christmas time so there you go
Starting point is 00:22:11 caitlin's special crispix saint crispix crispix yeah yeah i agree uh and i really do like it with milk too they stay crispy longer than most cereal it's in the name they're not fucking around they really deliver on that name yeah no but like it's it's how there's like okay so oat squares also do this thing where like they stay crispy on the outside but they get like just the right amount of mushy on the inside and i feel like the number one thing in your cereal is you have to find out that right like consistency for you when it gets milk on it and i always want there to still be some crispies left so i don't know i might fuck around i'll throw some berries on that bitch yeah yeah they're versatile oat squares are a bit heavy a bit dense for me where you can't have too many. You cannot have too many.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Do not overdo it with the oat squares, Quaker oat squares. You think you can handle two cups. They got a nice, subtle sweetness. I'm a fan. But yeah, don't bite off more than you can chew with that. Whereas Crispix, Crispix also like,
Starting point is 00:23:20 they turn into these little like milk gushers, you know, like the milk like kind kind of all over. Yeah, it's really nice. I really like this underrated. Right. Thank you. This is all very gross sounding.
Starting point is 00:23:36 You get a nice milk gusher. But anyways, great, overrated and underrated from one of the greats to ever do it. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about a fucking bridge collapse. For God's sakes. Jesus Christ. We'll be right back. Fucking seamless. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
Starting point is 00:24:09 And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital
Starting point is 00:24:50 revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Santer. The only difference between the
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Starting point is 00:26:01 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her.
Starting point is 00:26:40 What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And as a former guest said, the trademark of the show, hurtling changes of pace and tone. We're going into just a horrible tragedy in Baltimore early this morning. The Francis Scott Key Bridge, the one from season two of The Wire. I remember them sitting there looking at it. I believe the quote from Frank Sabatka is fucking beautiful. It's fucking picturesque is what it is but anyways uh that bridge collapsed after it was hit by a container ship which sent several vehicles plunging into the water below an unknown unknown number of workers were also on the bridge repairing concrete ducts at the time of the crash it's truly like the the video is i mean if you turn on cnn right now when you're listening to this on Wednesday, it will be playing like they are just playing the shit out of this thing.
Starting point is 00:28:08 But it is really staggering just the violence and speed with which it collapses. There is a detail from the story. Two people were rescued from the water after the ship hit a pillar supporting the bridge. And like two of the people were found rescued from the water after the ship hit a pillar so one was in good condition and refused treatment and the other was seriously injured and was being treated in a trauma center but like the person who was on that bridge and landed in the water and was just in good condition and refused treatment is one of the craziest things that i've ever just like incidentally come across in the especially the water has to be so cold yeah you know who
Starting point is 00:28:53 it had to have been because i was trying to like play in my head like when i read this news like who could it have been rose from titanic bruce willis and unbreakable yes and yes titanic bruce willis and unbreakable yes and yes i was thinking my grandfather because this motherfucker hates hospitals hates doctors like i mean he's dead now i'm talking about him like he's still here well he is but what i'm saying is like you couldn't have paid him if he survived falling off a bridge he's like okay i already had something terrible happen to me once today yeah now you're gonna take me to the hospital that's the second terrible thing no fucking thank you so i think that's the only kind of person that refused treatment at that point someone that is so anti like going to the hospital for whom it's such a that's a no for me that they're like i don't know i'll
Starting point is 00:29:45 brave hypothermia let's fucking let's roll the dice on this you know refused treatment really does give like they do not want their body studied by science vibes to me but yeah it's a horrifying story obviously something that we've been noting of late is just whenever there is a piece of news that is getting a lot of people's attention, it immediately just starts being flooded with conspiracy theories. Obviously, we talked about Kate Middleton, like the Shohei Otani thing, best baseball player in the world. His translator was fired for gambling. It's like, you know, I can see where there would be some suspicion. But people immediately were like, oh, yeah, no, this person has a massive gambling problem. And like, it case of this bridge collapse on Fox News, first of all, Maria Bartiromo was asking the important questions like, will this disaster that people are still being rescued from make inflation worse? She raised that question and then asked if it was somehow caused by migrants and Biden's wide open border. And then on... Okay, Jack, is that not what you thought right away? That wasn't your first thought? Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Okay, way to lie about it. First off, bridge collapsing? That is migrants. That's migrants. Okay. Obviously they need a bridge to get here. And yeah. Matt Schlapp did the other thing those obviously all on our mind and blamed covid lockdowns for yeah that just makes sense first things the virus
Starting point is 00:31:34 attacks the libtards second thing it attacks is the pillars of a bridge thank you prove me wrong science but there there is like you see the lights on the boat go out and people and apparently there was it issued a mayday just before the collision and that allowed bridge operators to halt traffic and potentially save lives but people online are like and that's proof that it was a cyber attack probably from china so. So we don't know, but people are wildly speculating as we are wont to do these days because bad universe. Hey, speaking of bad universe, we don't understand the universe and never have.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Speak for yourself, Jack. Yeah, we understand it perfectly. Okay. Caitlin and I were just like taking notes because we were like, this is too easy before this pod. Too easy. So there are a handful of things that I thought I knew about theoretical astrophysics. So you got your gravity, right? Got your light.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Got your speed. Theory of relativity i don't totally have a grasp on but like i know that like maybe time and space and uh speed like affect one another and then the universe you need to watch back to the future a few more times yes interstellar a couple times and then you'll get it the important speed barrier is not the speed of light. It is 88 miles per hour. And that is the point at which you can start warping speed. That's right.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Third time. But the one that I thought I knew was like kind of a basic one. Doesn't really make sense to me. Never has. But the universe is expanding. Right. We knew that because it started by Big Bang, right? Those are like two of the core ones
Starting point is 00:33:29 that I feel like I had trusted them on. Well, it turns out they fucking lied to us, you guys. Now, they're just like, so they had this theory. Everything was kind of expanding at a constant rate. And then they would look in the Hubble telescope and they would be like, except it doesn't like when we point it there, it's not going the same speed as when we point it over there. And they were like, but that's probably wrong. We're just like not pointing it correctly. pointing it correctly but now this is why i could never be inside just because immediately i would be like i'm not doing it right yeah exactly i'm not i'm wrong but that's like they've had evidence for years that like they weren't but they were like no we just we just fucked something up because it's such a sort of load-bearing assumption like the the whole thing was like big bang leads to expanding universe but for their previous model to be true it seems like they needed everything expanding
Starting point is 00:34:33 at the same rate and they got so now they got the super duper high def kind of James Webb telescope picture of deep space. And they, that also said, Hey, not expanding at the same rate. They were like, we're going to keep, keep assuming it is.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Finally, they checked James Webb against Hubble, like locked the data together. And it seems like all doubt has been taken out. It is no longer you can no longer say that the universe is expanding at a constant rate but it is still expanding at an inconsistent rate yeah it's expanding at an inconsistent rate nobody so this is the thing it's this paper was published by the same assholes who did the dark energy thing have you heard about
Starting point is 00:35:28 the dark energy you have an agenda and like a list of people you hate and you're like it's these motherfucking assholes again yeah no what's dark energy dark energy is like the mysterious force behind the universe's accelerating expansion. Like they're like, well, none of, so basically they like did the math and they were like, none of this makes sense unless we create this invisible force that we haven't really found yet.
Starting point is 00:35:55 We'll call it dark energy. And they want a Nobel prize for that. Basically they are like geniuses of making me recognize that i know nothing and you know i thank them i'm extremely good at knowing nothing so they're really like kind of hitting my sweet spot but yeah so now their paper states with measurement errors negated what remains is the real and exciting possibility that we have misunderstood the universe. Motherfucker, that's the possibility and reality I'm living every day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Give me something to cling to. Are you serious right now? Also, okay, to expose my own lack of knowledge, how does this in any way relate or not relate to string theory? I don't know. Okay okay cool don't know thank you okay so we're all stupid great i love that for us but i can't even like no matter what rate the universe is expanding or not and however it's consistent or not i can't even wrap my head around that because what is it expanding into like exactly more universe but what i know i know it doesn't my like there was nothing and then the universe expanded into
Starting point is 00:37:16 it like i don't get that this is the question my kids are constantly like my kids turn into a beautiful dummy. I not meant to understand. Yeah. I smell flowers. I pet dog. I write. I make dumb podcast. We're good. The other thing I cannot really wrap my head around is like, so because we are here on Earth, unless you've got listeners in Mars, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:44 I wouldn't put it all these weirdos am i right these these migrants from mars collapsing our bridges grins yeah mars so we you know live on this we're all pulled down by earth's gravity and so so I'm like, oh, I have to go somewhere. It's forward or backward or to my side. But what I never quite can comprehend is that in the universe, exactly above me, however many light years, there's other solar systems. And then exactly below us is other solar systems. It's just happening in all directions i don't know that can't be true nah that's too bad not to make you feel bad but i totally get it oh okay in no fucking
Starting point is 00:38:37 way do i get it the more we talk about how big the universe is the like more i want to hyperventilate it hurts my feelings it really does have you ever had this feeling okay it's like you're okay you're at the beach and you're like looking down into sand and you're like going really in it and you're seeing how fucking much of the sand is made up of how many different things. And you're seeing all of the different little grains for what they are. And then you start realizing how much sand there is, not just at the beach that you're at, but in general. And you just start feeling sick because that happens to me. Yeah, it's overwhelming.
Starting point is 00:39:22 It's too much. It's like that beautiful. And I'm only looking at a little bit of sand. And I'm like, I cannot. And you're like, oh, wow, it's the Earth. And then we're like pulling out even further. And then it turns out the Earth is just one of many or like even the galaxy is one of many marbles that these huge aliens are playing with. And I'm like, that is probably what it is. Right. I'm like literally getting hot. Like you can see me getting pink because like this is too much.
Starting point is 00:40:01 And like our little human brains simply cannot comprehend it. I had that thought when I was younger. Like, what if we're just like a little bit little like tiny thing, you know, like because when you get down to the quantum level, it's like so chaotic and like you can't look. You can't really tell what's going on down there. So what if we're just like down at the quantum level of something much bigger yeah i think we all deeply do feel inside us that we are yeah because we what's so unsettling about like acquiring enough knowledge or brain to actually comprehend even a little bit of that reality that's when you're like oh now i'm fully like fucked yeah because like this is too much to comprehend but i do want to say like the sand thing always not always but a lot of the time
Starting point is 00:40:53 freaked me out to the point where i'd be like okay this is too much in a bad way but like i remember the first time i actually saw shooting stars when i was in maine and it was during like a meteor shower and i was like on the dock on my back like looking up there was no you know light noise you just could really see it and for like my whole life before that I'd pretended to have seen shooting stars you know you're always bragging about it no people would always be like oh did you see that I'd be like I did yeah like totally did not it's like those like where you stare at the painting and you see a thing. I was like, totally didn't.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Like magic eye? Yes. I will lie about it. I'm like, brain freeze? Felt it. Totally. Turns out genetically some people can't feel it. I can't feel brain freeze.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Really? Like when you eat ice cream? Cannot. You cannot feel brain? Wow. What? I'm like, my mouth is cold. Is that what you guys mean? People are like, no, that's not at all what it is. And I cannot conceive of it.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I get brain freeze all the time. I know. And I have been faking it this whole time. I had no idea that that was an option. It's an option. It's an option. So that's how I felt when I was seeing shooting stars or when I thought I was seeing shooting stars. Oh, yeah, we all see them. And then the one time where I actually saw them during that meteor shower, it was see so many things, then like that means that it's possible to have a window and see so many things all the time. And that made me feel like so glad to be alive. It's kind of the opposite of the sand feeling, even though it's still you are tiny and the world is big yeah that's a little bit how i felt when i looked at that first james webb picture of the universe where they were like each one of those galaxy oh you thought it was a star galaxy motherfucker that is we are like one of a trillion in our galaxy each one of those is a
Starting point is 00:43:08 galaxy so it really boggles the mind also how do we even have like telescopic photographic technology to be able that i also don't understand it millions and millions of geniuses like building on there that it is like cool like it's like science the stuff that we can do with science like is pretty impressive and we tend to write out like the wonder at like that's amazing that they built that that like just all these geniuses like working together without like they're they James Webb, you know, but they're like still putting in all the work to put this thing out there so we can get this picture so that we can realize we don't know shit, which is pretty wild. But so crazy. I appreciate them.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Most beautiful way. Yeah. but so crazy i appreciate them most beautiful way yeah but yeah now i because children do ask these questions like they my kids are constantly like so what is after the universe like what go like you're yeah so the last star and then what and i'm just like i don't fucking know but at least i had when they were like what started the universe i could be like big bang uh yeah i know that one you know like and now i don't even we don't even know that oh my god you got nothing i got nothing for it's always when they're taking a shit i think like there's something with the vagal nerve like there's a you know the digestive nerve system that is like that it's like relaxation and digestion and like all those things are tied together and it's like the second my kids sit down on the toilet they become like the biggest donors in the world they're just like what is it all mean though i'm just like what's not to think about it yeah exactly have you ever dad have you ever looked at the sand on the beach and been like
Starting point is 00:45:06 you're like no i'm gonna send you over to auntie sophia's house exactly he's been fucking her life up over this for a long time you talk to her yeah exactly actually the thing they say about the beach is that it's all parrot shit parrot parrot fish shit parrot fish shit that's what sand is the thing that breaks up sand is like parrot fish eating rocks and shitting out i mean it's not the only thing but it is often like white sand is parrot fish shit what's that seems like exactly what a jack's kid would say. Yeah, I know. It does sound like something that was made up by a six-year-old. No, it just sounds like Jack O'Brien's kids. Well, actually, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:55 You're like, surprise. These are just strangers. I didn't know parrotfish were a thing. But now that I'm looking at one, I'm like, oh, they have a little beak. They have a little beak and they kind of have little human teeth i saw one in an aquarium and i was like you are a fucking nightmare my guy you are fish have teeth in a way that should not be okay yeah i'm not i'm not okay with it like if you require a night guard, you can't be a fish. They do wear night guards. Like, that's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:46:27 I have a night guard. No. Like, we can't. I can't be looking at my teeth pattern in your face if you're a fish. Like, that's not okay. Sorry, we got to cut this short. I've got to take my parrot fish to the orthodontist. His brace is tightened.
Starting point is 00:46:41 His teeth are all jacked up. Yeah. But anyways, the report concludes, sleep tight, motherfuckers, at the end. It doesn't, but it might as well. So that's that. I take it as like, cool, more mystery in the universe. So let's, me so tiny. That's what I take away. I love it. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back i'm jess casavetto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary
Starting point is 00:47:17 series dancing for the devil the 7m tiktok cult and i'm cleo gray former member of 7m films and shekinah church and we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed
Starting point is 00:47:59 will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for
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Starting point is 00:49:17 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:49:39 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
Starting point is 00:50:03 This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. and we're back and all right it's that time to uh get a titanic story in while we have caitlin dorante aka lauren d titanic yes i so badly want this song to swell up behind this segment i know it's illegal but what if I just gently sing it? Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. This is beautiful. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:50:56 All right. There it is. The dancing, by the way. Yeah, really impressive. Listeners, really good stuff from auntie sophia all right the big seller at heritage auctions recent treasures from planet hollywood event was the door that saved the life of kate winslet kate winslet's character rose and titanic and you know that wasn't heavy enough to hold Jack Dawson out of the freezing water
Starting point is 00:51:27 according to Rose. It's not about size. It's not about there was enough space, yes, but it's about buoyancy. It wasn't buoyant enough. Yes, exactly. I'm tired of everyone
Starting point is 00:51:43 screaming about it. also it would have frozen because they would have been submerged in the cold water regardless they both would have died is so much for that she barely made it out anyways she barely made it out like as it is you think with his cold ass like up there with her that it would have been fine. I think people would have been happy if she just like ended up like eating his like body on that. Yeah. Just door as it got later. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:52:12 just let him die. Chewing on his ass. Marbled ass. Also like, and then she would have got brain freeze. Come on, Jack. You were a bit of fun.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Okay. Not you. She wasn't going to leave her life behind for you. Come on, Jack. You were a bit of fun. Okay. Not you though. She wasn't going to leave her life behind for you. Come on, Jack. What'd you think this? What if she had just turned like cold as Kevin Spacey and was just like, what do you think this is, Jack? Obviously this is, you, you, you can't get on this with me.
Starting point is 00:52:40 You're, you know. Wait, what are you referencing? I don't know either. If she had just like been like. But Kevin spacey and what yeah what movie i don't know just like i feel like sometimes he'll like give like a ice maybe i'm thinking of the ice man cometh like the you're like whatever the iciest thing is the ice man the cold the coldest hearted i i don't know. Yeah, I guess Kevin Spacey is not a cool reference anymore. Are you just thinking of that Foreigner song? Is that what's happening right now?
Starting point is 00:53:11 Are you thinking of Mr. Freeze or whatever from Batman? Yeah, I'm thinking of Mr. Freeze. I just mean like cold hearted and calculating and just being like, yes, Agent Kuyon. You know, I don't know. He never says that in fucking usual suspects it's it's a long day but all right i think the coldest thing he does in that movie is just walk away yeah but he does it so coldly it's so fucking cold ice in his veins all right so it sold for 718 750 more than indiana jones's whip jack nicholson's axe from the shining but i don't know some of these price tags are making me wonder like if any
Starting point is 00:53:59 of you remember like when the nfts first came out and they were like, this art full of JPEGs just sold for $3 million. Our most expensive ape is worth $85 million. Bill Murray's Red Rose bowling ball from Kingpin sold for $350,000. Whoa. And the axe from The Shining only sold for $125,000. That feels like things are off there. Well, also, okay, the door, first of all, where do you put that? How do you display it?
Starting point is 00:54:39 It's huge. And if someone comes over, they're like, what's this random hunk of wood in your house right i don't think a lot of people would recognize it for what it is no it's not iconic like it's just a shape at least not visually on in the water yeah yeah it's super iconic in terms of like the plot like architecture it's very important but it's not a thing that i could pick out of a lineup you want to be able to explain it to other people for the rest of your life yeah that's what you're buying a conversation that would never happen otherwise say chap what is that what's that for that for the rest of your life and that's what you want i guess
Starting point is 00:55:23 hey say chapo what's that random piece of shit leaning up against your wall there? Is that firewood that you need to chop up? Because that's what it looks like. Whoever bought it needs a swimming pool or some kind of pool, and then it should just float in the pool. And then they should just get dummies
Starting point is 00:55:42 of the Titanic characters and position them. That's what I would do if I bought it. And I did buy it. And I'm the person who spent the $718,000. Purchased under an alias of Lauren D. Titanic. But honestly, that pool idea is kind of the best idea I've ever heard. For, like, buying a piece of memorabilia and like letting it serve if you will like that door will be serving cunt in that pool like let's be honest
Starting point is 00:56:12 yeah it's just how you're floating trying to get reactions you know yeah and also you could have people be like okay can you get two people on here? You know? Well, do you remember a few years ago, James Cameron did, he like hired scientists, the same ones who just told us probably that the world doesn't make sense and we know we won't understand the universe ever. He hired like professionals. He took a break from professionals black black energy dark
Starting point is 00:56:45 dark energy yeah and he hired people to conduct to like recreate that because he was so sick of people being like rose should have scooched over and there would there was room on the door and she was so selfish blah blah he's like no that is not true So he hired people and proved that the buoyancy was not there. Yeah. So that was like a newsworthy story a couple of years ago. Yeah. I also couldn't believe it because I'm like, if I had James Cameron, like, fuck off money. I'm out here in the streets hiring scientists to prove something from a door in a movie i made like 20 plus years ago
Starting point is 00:57:26 yeah that's what made me be like he doesn't have a family or friends that love him like why would you yeah yeah like if you were having a good life you would just think that's hilarious yeah and just move on but he's like no i have to prove it yeah at least he would have made an effort to like get it but then maybe it's not heroic if he tries if like he keeps clambering up onto the door and it's like she's like no you're you're fucking sinking like you keep you know so they just accepted yeah he just resigned to his fate you know, so they just accept it. Yeah. He just resigned to his fate. You could also. So apparently it's part of a door frame, which, again, goes to indicate that everybody thinks it's a door and it's part of a door frame.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Should suggest that like nobody knows what the fuck this thing looks like at all. It might not be worth your seven hundred thousand dollar but i guess you could use it as part of a door frame like that would be and just be like that door frame you just walked through look at you so dumb you don't even know she doesn't even know you're part of a legend yeah you've just walked through the door frame that saved Rose's life, my dear. Right. It's not even a perfect rectangle. Yeah. It's just like, it's like a chunk of a wall.
Starting point is 00:58:53 It's a chunk. Yeah. It's shaped more like a crispix than a rectangle. It's debris. And it's no milk gusher. Am I right, Josh? No milk gusher. It's not giving me any milk gushing.
Starting point is 00:59:06 I'll tell you what. Yeah. There is a story about a guy who I think it was like a Texas oil billionaire who bought the window that Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy through and like put it up in his house. Like just had it installed in his house let's show them what happens to democrats when they come to texas but let's show them what happens to people that love theater around here but so that's where i got the idea for of the putting the door using the doorframe as a doorframe you know from that genius anyways yeah yeah yeah all right well congratulations caitlin anyway congratulations to lauren d titanic enjoy that
Starting point is 00:59:51 door tongue door chunk i really will thank you so much i have big plans thank you so much for joining us on the daily zeitgeist as always caitlin oh my gosh thanks for having me where can people find you and follow you and all that good stuff you can follow me on mostly on instagram these days at caitlin dorante and kind of barely there and my shows again are on my website i'm doing stand-up in various european cities and then there's also the bechtel cast shrek tanic tour we are doing shows on either shrek or titanic in cities such as london oxford manchester edinburgh and dublin and all of that information is either on the bechtelcast link tree or my website.
Starting point is 01:00:47 So check out all of that stuff. CaitlinGeranti.com slash shows. That's right. And link tree slash Bechtelcast. Bang. And is there a work of media or a tweet that you've been enjoying? I just saw the movie problemista starring so good written and directed by julio torres and i really liked it so i would recommend
Starting point is 01:01:11 people watch it if they can i can't wait to see that yeah highly recommend is it still in theaters if it's at the amc glendale freaking americana yeah glendale amazing uh sofia where can people find you is there work media you've been enjoying people can find me as always at the sofia s-o-f-i-y-a on twitter and instagram i'm not posting very much either, but I will be. I don't know. That sounded vaguely threatening for no reason. And a work of media I have been enjoying lately. This is by Matt Margolis at It's Matt's Law. You'll hear from my lawyer, boring, overplayed, probably tax attorney. Trish is going to be fucking livid intimidating who is trish what have we done that's right trish is gonna hear about this she's fucking just just wait
Starting point is 01:02:16 just wait let's see mcdad stuff tweeted please stop telling me to lift with my legs. My legs are also not strong. And BleakSigglesKeep tweeted, imagine, if you will, a town where the boys are back. It's just one of the great first sentences of a novel. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Super producer Justin Connor, is there a song that you think you might enjoy uh super producer justin connor is there a song that
Starting point is 01:03:08 you think people might enjoy yeah i'm gonna keep the parisian vibes going with this track called je ne bois pas beaucoup which means i don't drink much and this is a very danceably jazzy track that's got a good cleaning your house type of energy as miles likes to say i don't know anything about the musicians but they created this nice groove and they just stay in the pocket with some flourishes here and there uh but yeah this is janebois paboku by lea toupa duzer and you can find that in the footnotes footnotes i didn't know you were fluent in french oh my god. Just barely. This episode is going to get flagged for being French.
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Starting point is 01:04:21 We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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