The Daily Zeitgeist - Defining Wealth, IvankAntoinette 7.15.20

Episode Date: July 15, 2020

In episode 672, Jack and Miles are joined by the Scam Goddess Laci Mosley to discuss a white supremacy f*ckery round up, Trump retweeting baseless claim by Chuck Woolery, Ivanka's great advice for the jobless, and more! Plus Ian Campeau, an activist, musician and Anishnaabe speaker from Canada, joins to talk about Indigenous language, decolonization, and more.FOOTNOTES: North Carolina Cop Fired Over BLM Comments Says They Were Religious Speech Fired North Carolina Cop Explains That His Super Racist Comments Were Actually His Religious Beliefs Trump retweets game show host Chuck Woolery’s baseless claim that ‘everyone is lying’ about coronavirus White House campaign advice to jobless: "Find something new" Follow Ian Campeau on Twitter #HomiesChatting on Youtube WATCH: Yazmin Lacey - Marie Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hi, I am Lacey Lamar. And I'm also Lacey Lamar. Just kidding, I'm Amber Revin. What? Okay, everybody, we have exciting news to share. We're back with season two of the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network. This season, we make new friends, deep dive into my steamy DMs, answer your listener questions, and more. The more is punch each other.

and more the more is punch each other listen to the amber and lacy lacy and amber show on will ferrell's big money players network on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts just listen okay or lacy gets it do it hello the internet and welcome to season 142 episode 3 of their daily zeitgeist a production ofRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness as they officially off the top. Fuck the Koch brothers. Fuck Fox News. And fuck Ivanka Trump. Try something new, you guys.

Try something new. Hey, if being poor is lame, try something new. Try something new. Just have you tried something? On the anniversary, on Bastille Day, she went with that. She went with the modern American equivalent of let them eat cake. Are they not just saying, hey, y'all, you're going to do Bastille Day over here now. Right.

Like, we're going to follow the roadmap. You might as well do it now while my father still has control of the army because otherwise it's going to take too long and you guys are just going to eat us in the streets. But try something. The disconnectedness of that class of people is just something else. To be able to think like, wow, that's really chill. Just to say, as if people are sampling poverty.

Like, yeah, I did the sampler, did the free trial. Not going to do the $4.99 a month now. Actually, I'm going to end the trial and I'm going to try something new. Oh, Ivanka. Anyways, it's Wednesday, July 15th, 2020. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k O'Brien aka girl who is you playing with pull that mask up go and whine motherfucker better pull that mask up girl don't be

a fool better pull that mask up on the podcast daddy better pull that mask up that is courtesy of crispy meme donut and I am thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray. First of all, I have to just let people know this spoke directly to my 90s child hip-hop heart.

But right now, I'm doing the instrumental to Foxy Brown's Hot Spot. Now that L.A. is a hot spot, I'm Miles. I'm not at the bar, y'all. Cold brew, I pops. World's not right. Mask on tight. You can't hear it home is our world me and my girl okay if you didn't fuck with foxy brown or the follow-up album china doll uh actually was china doll her first album anyway uh shout out to foxy brown I think one of the more

underrated rappers uh yeah never always leave out of discussions when they're talking about mcs who were putting it down in the 90s thank you to uh at dad hound for i don't know what you did if you looked in my old columbia house uh buy these like 10 cds for one cent scam i did but that was one of the fucking albums i got when i pulled that columbia house scam the firm She was part of The Firm, right? Oh, yeah. AZ and Nas. I'm talking firm, it's still your baby. What was that one song that sounded like they were sampling some Sicilian

mandolin? Oh, you already know. Got your phone tap. What you gonna do? So good. What's the dilly? My man touched the ground down in Philly. Woo! We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious, the talented.

She is Lacey Mosley! What's up, y'all? It's Lacey Mosley, a.k.a. I wanna be where the scammers are. I wanna see, I want to see them stealing, driving around in those, what do you call,

what do you call those cars with the stars in the sky? Wraiths. Up where they scheme, up where they steal, up where they pay a thousand dollars for a date Oh my God

Take me to Flatbush Lagos, Nigeria Find me a scammer Wow Okay I can't take credit for that I have to give credit To Jesse Wu on Instagram.

The Jesse Woo. I changed a few words, but I loved it. So shout out to the Jesse Woo. You can take credit for that vocal performance. If I had tried some shit like that, that would have been cringe. We would have got a lot of people unsubscribing. Dan, clean me up. Clean me up in

the auto-tune dan clean you didn't need shit i heard that through zoom maybe yeah vibrato what's up podcast daddy okay jack that aka was fire can you call me that now please i have to call you podcast daddy now it's official i do appreciate it i do appreciate it uh lacy how have you been in the past what is it a week and a half since we last spoke i know too long i've been busy which is good but also like please stop bothering me it's a mixture sometimes i'm like oh so much to do but then i'm also like please stop contacting me uh busy in what sense and you are talking yeah because she goes to bars and concerts oh yeah you know going to the bars breathing in as many

people's mouths as possible so busy you guys gotta get out there the restaurants aren't as packed as they normally are it's great when it closed now yo i was driving by what's that one spot on like melrose near robertson that everybody goes to that's like it looks like a club but it's a rooftop restaurant oh uh catch yes there was a line out that motherfucker and i i was driving by to like pick something up and i was like what is going on here and it was just i thought there was i thought like there was a juvenile album release party because there's no way there would be a line that big. They're dropping the New Jordans. I don't think there's a bigger artist in town than that.

But it was just like, the energy was way too much for a pandemic in a city that is not doing well. Did you say it was called Catch? Yeah, Catch. It's like a sushi fusion restaurant, but it's like a nightclub though. It's like that even when it's not COVID. You have to wait outside.

There's a bouncer. They kind of see if you're hot enough to come in or if you're famous. It's just a weird energy. Can you imagine going to a restaurant and they're like, how many are with you? It's not like, how many in your party? It's like, how many are with you?

How many girls? Hey, what's the ratios, my man? I can't think of a worse verb for a like covid era hot spot catch transmit maybe yeah cough you can literally yeah covid you can literally catch me outside all right guys let's tell the people what we're talking about today uh we're talking to a activist musician about indigenous issues and uh you know those kind of came came up on the supreme court docket and we got some unexpected good news uh we're going to talk about that we're going to talk about uh we're going to do our white supremacy fuckery roundup we are going to... I have a new kind of pet-ish theory

that's like sort of a... I'm not like full British coal gas study on it yet, but I heard about this, and now it's all I can think about. So I'm going to share it with you guys, the lead poisoning thesis. Call him LP over here. LP.

We're going to talk about Trump retweeting Chuck Woolery we're gonna talk about a bonkers try something new initiative all that plenty more but first Lacey we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are yes for my search history um so I've been searching uh jada pinkett smith um zodiac sign um book um because like j i don't know if you guys talked about jada and her august alcina uh entanglements that she had we mentioned it very very briefly but i watched the red table talk and i realized that jada is the the woman version of future that i've always needed and i i want to have men i want to have tupac write poems about me i want to have just will smith and all types of men just fighting over my box like i was like

what is jada doing and how can i also? I want a cult of men. Yeah. She really. She is doing it. Left a trail of broken hearts, huh? I didn't know they watched a little bit. Oh, yeah. She dated Tupac and Tupac was obsessed with her.

They never slept together. One of the lines from his poem was like, you bring me to climax with no touch. And I was like one of the lines from his poem was like you bring me to climax with no touch and i was like oh you was jerking off of your tour bus huh but do you tupac right but i was like that's cute like how can i get just like several men who think i'm their wife but maybe i never have to be around them but they send me money i mean god to the way she i'm sorry to that man august alcina i really was it was something else you know for him to be like if i died with her knowing that i loved her it would be enough and she's like i don't know what the fuck that would be enough and it was watch the red table talk it's only 12 minutes but jada

looks like she just had like the best night's sleep went to the spa skin on glow and will is over here look like he's straight out the pursuit of happiness yeah really like he just got like it was hit the same guy who just came off the street but it's like one of those videos are like they gave people like fades who needed them right right and they're like all right now wear these clothes and now you're gonna confront your wife who uh you have an open relationship with. Did y'all see the video that they did on Twitter where they dubbed Will in that famous Freshman of Bel-Air scene about his dad? He was like, I don't need her.

I don't need her. What the hell? What the hell? And I was like, Will, I love Will Smith. I hate the thing. The internet. My Twitter's so rude. But I was like, Jada, what are you doing over there? And write a book already,

or at least a podcast, or like some instance. I need to know. They need to give him a retrospective Academy Award for that scene, though, because that scene makes me cry every time I see it.

It is so good. You don't even have to have been abandoned by a parent. You could have just had a fight with a parent, and that shit would resonate with you. You'd be like, man. But yeah, the way Jada.

I'm going down to my two-parent home like, why y'all don't want me, man? What? I can't believe this shit. The way Jada, though, the entanglement, how dismissive that was. And sort of like the way the internet took that to be like the entangling thing. It really was like she was saying she was reducing this love affair

between her and August Alsina as like the relationship equivalent of like walking through like a cobweb at night and you're like, oh, what the fuck was that? Ugh.

All right, let's keep going, bro. Or like you pull your iPod headphones out and they're all tangled up and you're like, oops. And then you just kind of shake them out

and they get out and you're like, all right, that wasn't that bad. Pure boss shit. Pure scammer language and entanglement now a part of my lexicon. Using it

all the time. You know what I mean? Like I stole your wallet like my hands were entangled in your phones. I guess I just became entangled with your credit card information. I feel like you know the, the Las Culturistas, our sister podcast-ish, just did their top 200 moments of culture. And this was the first moment of culture that I felt like we were witnessing

that belonged in the top 200 as it was happening. It was a good interview. You'll love to see it. And by the way, Red Table Talk, the podcast version, is currently an iHeart podcast. So you can hear the audio version. Yeah, yeah, check that out. We did not.

But you kind of do need the video. I mean, not to take the dollars out the corporate coffers, but you kind of do need to see. I mean, not to take, you know, the dollars out the corporate coffers, but, you know, you kind of do need to see the video just to see how destroyed Will Smith is as he, like, acts. Like, there's so many painful moments. Act like everything's cool. Yeah, I'm like, oh, sir.

My favorite is the end. You're the best actor. Oh, boy. You're talking about Bad Marriage for Life? We ride together. We die together. Bad Marriage for Life. Bad Marriage for Life. we die together bad marriage for life Jada cheated on me

she can't be stopped bad marriage for life oh man August Alsina I feel like we need to he needs our prayers. He seems like he's going through it, man. Poor baby. He's been going through it for a minute.

God bless him. These are the casualties that happen when these celebrity trashy moments happen before our eyes. Innocent people get harmed. Innocent people get entangled in the fray. Well, he brought it up. Yeah, I know. I mean that very flippantly like she she could not have not she couldn't have not said anything at that point like that's on him uh lacy what is something you think is underrated underrated i'm saying games on house party i've been playing like some of them suck but some of them are really great like there's this game called word racer on house party. I've been playing like some of them suck,

but some of them are really great. Like there's this game called word racer on house party where you just get this big circle and you just have to try to make as many words as possible with all these words. And I've been playing it for days with my friend mom and you, and it's so fun. I just like, I'm trying to find ways to like interact with people that isn't just straight

on zoom. Like just like looking at their faces. Right. It's funny. Cause every time I'm on my phone that has it on there you are lacey mosley is in the house uh like every fucking 20 minutes i felt like i was okay it wasn't that much fucking house i wasn't in the house that much okay no but enough that it was frequent enough that i was like am i missing something like oh, you guys should just come to my game night. It's like 40 people. We're all just crowded in together. Oh yeah, y'all play Suck and Blow, right?

I saw y'all playing Suck and Blow. Oh man, it's the best. Suck and Blow. I just watched Coolio album and it both holds up and doesn't hold up at all. People should check that out to see what I mean by that. You're a virgin who can't drive.

That was way harsh, Ty. Oof. Face it, Cher. Do that when she said you're a 17-year-old virgin. Oh. Such an insult. Way harsh, Ty. Way fucking harsh.

I've talked about the time when i was 12 and went on a recruiting trip with my dad to a trailer park and all the kids made fun of me for being a virgin that's uh yeah that part was lit i know man uh what is something you think is overrated overrated i'm to say hiring famous, predominantly white photographers to take photos of black people. It just keeps happening. What do you mean predominantly white? Like somebody whose blood quantum is... I'm talking about Vogue.

I'm talking about when I say like, I'm saying famous photographers who are... White. Predominantly white, famous photographers. Got it, got it, got it, guys. Yeah, and I get it. It's because they're famous, and it's an honor to be shot by a famous photographer for sure.

Annie, ooh, Annie, hang it up. When you see black people, just turn the other way, sis. They're hard to light. They're hard to light, okay? I'm sorry. That's what my dad always, because he's a photographer, he would always be critical looking at people's photography of black faces. He black faces and be like see these people don't know how to light black people and like that was it's funny because that's like one of the things like insecure helped like

pave the way for lighting like revolutionizing lighting for darker complexions anyway yeah and like tv's slowly starting to catch on to that inherent bias but photography it's like Simone Biles's cover for Vogue she looks like who did the body she looks so ashy and oh who did the body for non-black people means like when you go to a funeral and the body and the casket don't look good and you'd be like who did the body you just you just ask around like who did the body um so she looked like who did the body and I was like and then you look at Viola Davis's cover, which is shot by a black queer photographer and like, she's glowing. It just came out in Vanity Fair and she looks fantastic.

And so it just makes such a difference. Like, so Melina Manzoukas shot, you know, Issa Rae. And it's just like, I get it. Like, you know, other photographers, like you can shoot everyone, but if you're going to do it, at least like you need to be concerned with lighting. You need to be concerned with how their skin looks. and it just feels like so many times we just get thrown these scraps like you're lucky that we shot you and it's like you look like a ghost um that's the next yeah those are the the steps right because the the easy thing is just like well okay and all

those editorial meetings it's like okay we need to have more black people on our covers and let's do some more features on black people for the next uh two months and then we'll go back to it while they're who's gonna shoot them uh get the crustiest white people from the 60s to shoot them you know and i think those photographers are talented it's i'm not taking any shade from that but it's like if you've spent your whole career ignoring black skin there's a chance you don't know how to shoot yeah or if you are if you are interested in uplifting as many black people simultaneously then cut a black photographer that check what what does does annie leibovitz need more money i don't think so no she's doing okay and she's notoriously been bad at shooting black people it's like awful so so that was like my overrated i'm like annie girl go get your gun

or go sit down she did shoot that boat cover i actually didn't realize that that was who shot that boat cover okay yes and it's it's rough yeah um i was like simone girl you okay i was like do you got the covid why you look like this so so yes guys just so you know. Go ahead. Oh, and then I was just going to say, I've been here forever. We're moving on to myths. And we are moving on to myths.

I've been here forever, folks. Yeah, you can run this show. I'm going to go take a break. I'm going to just rest my eyes real quick. Lacey, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false or hey vice versa okay so i went on a coronavirus covid uh googling fest and i found uh some great covid myths so i'm just gonna read a bunch off real quick coronavirus will go away in the summer obviously that has not happened in the summer the virus

will spread due to mosquito bites no it won't if you can hold your breath for 10 seconds without discomfort you don't have covid some people don't even have like cardiovascular issues yeah at all drinking water every 15 minutes will project or prevent you from contracting the virus. Yep. That one's true, right? I'm sure that one's true. A vaccine to cure COVID is available. At least not to us non-billionaires. It's not. Nope.

You can protect yourself from COVID by swallowing or gargling with bleach. We know that one. Acid steroids or using, hey, LA people, essential oils. Yeah. Saltwater, ethanol, or other substances. So stop buying the essential oil MLM program. It's not going to save you from COVID. But they do say crystals work, right? I heard up the butt.

Right. Crystal up the butt. Crystal suppository. Always. Yes. Always works. Oh, the hot sauce? Yeah.

Little crystal up the butt. Since COVID testing is rare, it's still it's pretty available where we are but if it's unavailable where you are it says you should donate blood the blood bank will test for it no they won't hand dryers kill the coronavirus no they don't hand dryers what yes who fucking germs made that? Whose myth is that? Dyson or whatever? What's the air blade? Is that Dyson?

Yeah, Dyson. He started spreading that. Presented by Dyson. Presented by Dyson. I mean, he supports Brexit, but he still fucks with science enough where he's like, it doesn't burn it off. It doesn't burn it off the hands, unfortunately. Eat a lot of garlic to avoid getting the virus.

No. It's not a vampire. It getting the virus. It's not a vampire. It's not Dracula. It's not a vampire. Rinsing your nose with nasal saline will prevent the virus. No. Chinese food is unsafe to eat right now. Super xenophobic, not real. You're just missing out on delicious wontons.

What are you doing? Jesus. Have you guys gotten tested? Yes. I've had texted by proxy so her majesty uh has gotten tested twice and but yeah i'm about to go get one next week actually that's such a guy thing to do that's like when you're in a relationship with a guy yeah what you got and they're like oh you don't got it i don't got it i'm good i'm good hey this logic has not failed me well maybe twice but i will keep going so i just got my second test in in the past week and this one man all tests are not created the same because no the first one i

was like man i don't see what the big deal is uh and this one was the same test it went up the nose but it was like they were itching my cerebral cortex like skullduggery it did not feel good i call that the nefertiti that's when they go in and they're basically about to take your brain out the nose yeah that's the one that i had to get because jack you were the one who like you had got a test and you got the results back pretty quickly and it was a swab so i was like let me go get my test honey before my birthday i thought i was gonna get the jack o'brien treatment you know the podcast daddy treatment that's not what i got yeah i did get in the podcast daddy line at your stadium yeah yeah when you get there all right are you uh symptoms symptoms, or podcast daddy, zaddy, or mommy?

Right, right. Yes, no, it rubs on your brain. And it feels like you're underwater. You know if you go underwater and you get water up your nose and it stings for a second? Yeah, a little burn, yeah. It lasts for only 15 seconds, guys. It's not too bad. But when I went, my cousin had went at 8.30 that morning because we couldn't get our test at the same time. So I had to go back afterwards.

So I go in and he's like, it a little uncomfortable just be prepared so i'm like okay so i go in there and i got my fit my fist clenched and they make you stick your neck your head up and then i'm like my eyes are closed because i know it's going to be uncomfortable so she's in there she's rubbing on my brain you know see seeing all my thoughts um and then she's like i'm gonna pull it out and so i'm standing there like bracing myself and then my eyes closed one eye is watering one nostril where she stuck it in is leaking and then at some point she goes miss do you need a tissue are you okay and i opened my eyes and i was like oh y'all done i had just been standing there like

like you're making a wish Don't tell nobody That's amazing Can you go? Can you please leave? But the lines are getting more and more Out of control They are

And it's a tip to you guys out there If you're looking on your designated websites and it says that there's no test come come back in 30 minutes come back in an hour because they'll add more slots and stuff but um if you don't come back then you won't see it because that was a little trick i learned because i was like damn and by the way so that people don't feel like they have to run out and get tested if they don't have symptoms i i've been tested twice in the past week because uh i had contact with somebody who did uh have it so that's why i'm going out and getting tested yeah multiple times um at that party not a good idea yeah 20 of the 30 people at game night are testing positive which i don't believe

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Hey, I'm Bruce Bozzi. On my podcast, Table for Two, we have unforgettable lunch after unforgettable lunch with the best guest you could possibly ask for. People like Matt Bomer. Thank you for that introduction. I'm going to slip you a couple of 20s under the table for that. Emma Roberts. When it came into my email inbox, I was like, okay, I know I'm going to love this so much that I don't even want to read it. Because if I can't be in it, I'm going to be bummed. And Colin Jost.

You know, your wife was the first guest on Table for Two. It's come full circle. As long as they do better than her, I'm happy. Table for Two is a bit different from other interview shows. We sit down at a great restaurant for a meal, maybe a glass of rosé, and the stories start flowing. Our second season is airing right now, so you can catch up on our conversations that are intimate, surprising, and often hilarious. Listen to Table for Two with Bruce Bozzi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close

to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current.

Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And we are thrilled to be joined by activist, musician, indigenous Canadian. He is Mr. Ian Campo.

How are you, sir? Anin. Miigwech. Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. I'm doing great. Yeah, things are really beautiful out here. I'm on the east coast of canada so it's a

beautiful day here you look like you're high in the sky is that just a zoom background where are we looking at there it's just a zoom background of actually like the lake that i'm from oh shit oh dope are those little islands yeah those are called the manitous there's like yo there's so many stories and things about this and i'm learning like i've since getting off the road i've been like on a huge like language and culture reclamation and uh i'm from lake nipissing so like nipissing is like just north of north bay or it's on like where north bay is it's uh it's on lake nipissing and that's about like uh four hours north of toronto just for comparison and um yeah these manitou's they're like super haunted where like yo white people haven't lived there yet they haven't put up cottages they haven't done anything

because of like how haunted it is oh really wow oh so then the vibe is they're like they know they pull up and like yeah you know when i joke about it with like my elders and stuff they're like yeah you don't want to go there like if you go nobody nothing's gonna hurt you but they'll scare you in a way that they'll make sure that you never go there again right wow so ian you know like we we chat on twitter a lot and uh you know i've whether i'm gaming with your kid like you're not realizing it or whatever like our paths intersect constantly and i think with everything that's been happening in the u.s uh you know and as the you know march for liberation or the the movement for true liberation in this country begins to gain momentum you know i feel like just in canada as united states like they're this everything is very intersectional especially with indigenous people

because those are the the first people who the United States fucked over and a lot of the colonizers who came to this land. And I think when we're talking about this sort of idea of like looking in our past and our history and being able to acknowledge what was here before we were still maintaining respect for that, not erasing it and being able to embrace and be as inclusive as possible, given the imbalances that there are right now, I felt like this would be, you know, this is a great time to speak because I can't, you know, you, you've done a lot of great work, um, and you, you are involved in your own activism. So, you know, I think this, I couldn't think of someone better to come and speak because there's a lot of, a lot of things going on, uh, in the U S and it seems like the

world right now. Yeah, straight up. And let me just share some of the things that I've been learning and understanding. And also, legit, because of this podcast, I'm learning stuff and I'm hearing stuff and I'm able to put two and two together with the problems that we're facing and literally how to fix it. Right now, we all seem to be figuring, the problems that we're facing and literally like how to fix it. Right. Like right

now, we all seem to be figuring out the problems and looking at, you know, capitalism and white supremacy and seeing these as, you know, the basic problems of our oppression. Since colonization, everybody has lived under that sort of capitalism, white supremacy. The only people who have lived on this land outside of capitalism are indigenous people. Right. So we know how to live on this land outside of this, this sort of, dare I say, like the settler colonialism. Right. So, so for example, the things that we need to change, like, you know, we see the problems, but we don't know how to fix it. We need to indigenize our measurements. Okay. So for example, our measurement of wealth is based on how much we hoard and accumulate, right? Like the more stuff I have,

the more money I have, the wealthier I am. We have an indigenous measurement of wealth that's based on how much you can afford to give away. So the fact that I have all this stuff isn't what makes me wealthy. The fact that I can give it to you guys so that you can have some as well, that's what makes me wealthy. If I needed all this stuff and had to hoard it then i'd be seen as like a poor person right as someone that that's like oh this guy needs all that stuff lack it's not abundant for that person it's lacking right that's it we had it we had a gift economy it was based on on on like how much you gave away and like i'm reading like jesuit accounts of meeting my people in the 1600s and they're talking about uh giving away the way that they describe it.

They said that the, the riches of this land aren't found in the bowels of the earth, but in the perishables on the land. And even if we were to take these spoils back to France, it would have like 60,000 francs is what they'd get for it. And this is in the 1600s and this is what we were giving away in like you know beaver pelts and deer pelts and these sort of things and robes of they keep mentioning like beads like beaded robes that we used to use

and all these things so yeah just figuring out how we used to live right and measuring our wealth in this sort of way so when COVID hit I got really nervous because, yo, like because what happened to me, I had some cousins over. And I think we can all agree like the day that COVID, we all took it seriously was like the day the NBA shut down. Right? Yeah. Right?

That's what it took. Oh, shit. Like millions of dollars, right? Like now it was like, oh, like hundreds of millions of dollars. People are like just giving it up. Like that's when I was like things are serious and i had a friend over and my power went out and i was like oh shit okay so this this is real right and that's been in my head since but um you know i i always know that i'm okay if the power goes out everywhere and and grocery

stores aren't a thing i know my cousin will hunt moose and I'll have meat. I'll be okay. I'm always worried about like the people who live in the city who don't know how to live on this land. So I'm starting to like invite all my homies from the city to come out hunting and come fishing and show how to live in this good way. Because we need to share this knowledge. This is the only way that we're able to like get out of this whole thing, get out of capitalism, get out of capitalism, get out of white supremacy is to learn how to live on this land outside of that.

Right. And there's markers everywhere. Like we're left with markers all over the U S did you know that 26 of the states are named after indigenous words? Yeah. Nope. That's more, that's more than half.

So like Texas is Mississippi's from my language, Michelle ZB Michelle Miche ZB Miche means great, ZB means river So Miche ZB is how we say like the great river But it got anglicized Into Mississippi Michigan is another one Manhattan, Massachusetts

These are all like indigenous words And then in Canada bro Like Canada, Ontario, Canadaonto uh winnipeg saskatoon like there's so many and no one really recognizes um these terms and and even like the most like patriotic people i bring that up often i'm like oh you're so proud to be canadian what does that word mean and what language is it and nobody can answer they're like it means fucking saskatoon man bacon bacon that's what it means manhattan manhattan's another like massachusetts like these are all like you know and and people don't recognize that or understand what it means and if you do learn those words you will understand

more about the place that you're from. For example, Mississippi being the great river, right? And those sorts of things. With the, you know, potential sea change or subtle sea change that's happening. I say potential because I want to see all the proof first before I really believe this is all happening. But there are good signals that people are open to evolving their thought process.

I've spoken a lot. Lacey has spoken a lot just from like the last few weeks, we've had a lot of black guests on from the perspective as like black American people, what that's like. But there's also, I think a very important element to this discussion of understanding the indigenous experience and how, how also all people who are benefiting from the privilege of living on this land, what they need to open their eyes to as well, if we're going to have some kind of forward progress.

See, that's what makes this movement different than others, I feel like. When Black Lives Matter first happened, in Toronto, there was a big Black Lives movement, and they stopped the Pride Parade. A lot of the queer Black people stopped the pride parade. A lot of like the queer black people like stopped the pride parade and held it there for hours until they negotiated a talk with like, you know, other I think it was the people that ran pride and some of the police and some of the politicians.

So they made, and they had like a docket of things that were very important that there's no compromise on these things. And one of them was indigenous issues. So like, it always seems that like when, when there's black struggle, indigenous, like they're indigenous people are always thought of in it. And, and when this becomes like, this is a major major movement that hasn't been seen for decades and decades

like this, where we're really getting organized. And I feel like this is the time that we really need to start talking and sharing knowledge and, and, and being able to look out for one another, right? Like the idea of hoarding, like what if we start growing our own food, right? And growing enough food for myself and each of my neighbors. And that's just how we like look out for one another. It's not about like how much I have and look out for myself, but we start like really looking out for one another in a real way. Start growing food on roofs, start growing food, like anywhere you can and make sure that like housing and food are always taken care of. We know now that housing the houseless is cheaper than dealing with homelessness,

right? So if we're not pushing our politicians to start housing the houseless and pointing out that they're not being fiscally responsible if they're not doing this sort of thing, we can start recognizing that it was never about saving money. It was about holding power over people. And we just need to start talking about this more. And then like, you know, okay, so if we're growing a lot of our food, then that'll take a lot of the financial burden off of us and we'll be eating better. You know what I mean? There's this, this is the first time in human history that we rely all of our food on corporations, right? Like we, we don't grow any of our food and that's only since like post world war two, right? Like even people in cities would grow like tomatoes and spinach and stuff like like in their in their yards but it's

this is the first time where we buy all of our food from corporations so there's a lot of there's a lot of things that we need to figure out i feel like that makes sense too yeah like as we get more just by virtue of buying food that's grown elsewhere we lose this natural connection to the the earth that we live on and it makes it it becomes more abstract and obscure so the abuse of it is more obscure and abstract to people because we don't as we don't interact as much on that level i think than you know prior civilizations and people i feel like we've taken this version like you're so right that a lot of the things that we take for granted as just being part of our reality are not are not constants throughout history a lot of the history that we base our assumptions on is complete bullshit and

fabrications and like we've taken this sort of artificial version of of consumerism and materialism to its logical extreme and we're destroying destroying the planet for uh you know not just generations down the line but like the generation after us like one generation on is going to be completely fucked um yeah so like they're you know a lot of the things you're talking about are are things that i think when i was a little bit younger would have thought of as being like two pie in the sky but i really think that like we're at a at a moment when like the these are things that are within reach that we need to start thinking about and figuring out like concrete steps towards, you know, making those sort of broad changes. Yeah, I mean, COVID showed us that the hamster wheel that we've been on can stop and we will survive. I think a lot of us thought like going to work every day and doing all these activities that we were doing were because it's the norm for us is like the only way to survive.

But this hasn't always been it. We've just been brainwashed. I think a lot of the issues with America is the fact that they've done a real number on all of us in terms of our thinking, in terms of our knowledge, in terms of how we frame the world. It starts in school. We're educated at a very young age into the patriarchy, into white supremacy, into capitalism and and it's hard to break those chains once you become an adult and that's the way that you've lived and then you you know you have to pay your bills you have to you know deal with your family you have to do other things so you're constantly distracted so you don't feel like you have the time space or energy to implement

significant change and now it's like we're all looking at each other and it's time right well yeah when you can when you're so like busy consuming like you're actually just you're losing skills that most human beings should just have in general like as a living organism intelligent enough you should be able to survive without a store around not in the sense of like this is some survivalist shit but like there's the basic skills like they're available to you like to you know i the point that you made about growing food really resonated with me because it's almost like in this you're sort of indoctrinated with this idea is like you want to be so rich you don't gotta do shit that's what it is you don't gotta do me because you don't gotta wipe your own all that shit that's how balling you are you don't have to do a fucking thing you don't have to breathe shit. Feed me. You don't got to wipe your own ass. All that shit. That's how balling you are.

You don't have to do a fucking thing. You don't have to breathe, motherfucker, because you're so fucking rich, bro. Intubate me. That's how you want to live, boy. Give me that pity, too. Michael Jackson was going into comas. He was so rich, he went into comas every night to go to sleep. This motherfucker wild, bro.

And I'm sure there are people like, damn, I can't wait until I can go to comas every night, bitch. This eight hours or something. Is that bad he on a ventilator? Nah, bro. He just don't want to breathe no more. He don't want to use his legs anymore like that. And because of that, in that pursuit, which is interesting, is that in that pursuit to be so rich that you don't have to do anything,

you lose all your time that you can to actually learn how to do all those things. Because if you learned how to do those things, then you wouldn't be chasing buying those things on a certain level. Right. So like with food is a great example of like, well, I gotta, I gotta go to the store.

I gotta do this. But the thing I've learned so much is like, God, I could really, especially in California. I really look at times. I'm like, I could put a flower bed here,

like a, like a garden bed. Why the fuck aren't I blowing this out? But I'm like, realizing could put a flower bed here, like a garden bed. Why the fuck aren't I blowing this out? But I'm like realizing to your point, Lacey, I have these impulses, this habit of behavior, which is, oh, you go to the store to feed yourself. Rather than like, it's possible to actually feed yourself with your own hands and using sunlight and some seeds. And now those things are

seen as quirky it's like if you have a garden it's like you put it on instagram or if you if you knit your own sweater it's like oh my god she knitted her own sweater she's redorculus we should probably know how to make something like people like i made a sourdough starter oh putting it on twitter she's just cottage core yeah cottage core all about that homespun yeah no the downfall of the human species i believe is the forcing of indigenous people to compare our resources to currency right like we know our real the true value of our resources and it's not money right like an apple isn't worth a1.25. An apple is worth, if I eat it, I'll live until tomorrow. But we've been commodified, right?

Like the game of comparing everything to currency is a game not meant for people of color to win, right? It was a game that was invented by white people to obtain white supremacy. That's why capitalism is so, it's a tool of white supremacy, right? And vice versa, right? White supremacy in North America was white supremacy, right? And vice versa, right? White supremacy in North America

was legislated, right? People of African descent didn't enforce or enslave themselves. We got the Japanese internment camps, Chinese head tax, trail of tears, right? Like the idea of white supremacy was legislated, which to me means that we could unlegislate it. Right. If we're going to even work this way, if we're even going to participate in this colonial ideology, we could say, no, we're good. Yo, I'm hanging out with my community over here and we're growing our own food and I'm making sure Miles House is taken care of. He's making sure my kids are fed and we're good. My job now is to grow some weed and make sure that we're all happy right like that could be our job that's how we lived at one point but it was this this idea of of forcing everybody so like with indigenous people they had to um remove our instruction manual which is our language right like they they'd show up and thought we were like

mystical magical people because they'd have a cut on their arm and we pull a leaf and put it on their arm like whoa that healed it in a day you were magic it's like no we use that and we're like no we just use the how to heal your arm plant like that's what it's called in our language we've been observing all of this for tens of thousands of years and we know how all of this works right but they're like whoa that was magic it's like no we just have knowledge that you don't right so there's so much knowledge and history. And this language, this Nishnah Bemowin that I'm learning right now, bro, it's like tens of thousands of years old. And if you could imagine if we had access to an elder

who understood ancient Aramaic and the nuances and how that language worked and put together in their thought process, there would be this wealth of knowledge that we'd celebrate all over the world. But I have that. They meet on my reserve on Wednesdays for a language class, but nobody seems to care because this language is our instruction manual where we could just go in the bush and be happy, right? Because we know what roots to heal, what food is good,

what has vitamin c because our language does that but you can't make money off of people who who could just go in the bush and be happy so they like violently beat this language out of us and take us put us in in residential schools i think down there they're called board like indian boarding schools and uh teach us capitalism teach us uh english and math and that way to live. And so that they can capitalize off of the body and the labor, but also the land that they're attached to. This is all like a very well planned out meticulous web that was cast out here.

We just need to recognize and start pulling it apart like you guys are on this podcast. There are entire untranslated languages that people just aren't bothering to like translate that might contain you know just like that that's such a huge blind spot in american academia and uh yeah just just the education the miseducation of american schools uh teaching that the very cursory uh loose uh account that they give to indigenous people is a tragedy because it like the there's just so much that's interesting and that would have lit my mind on fire when I was eight years old

about that I had to wait until I was done with my education to learn about in books like 1491. There's a huge appetite. I wrote an article at Cr crack that was the most popular thing i ever wrote it was basically just a book report on a couple of books about the truth about uh indigenous civilizations in the united states and how advanced they were and how populous the country was before uh european settlers came it was so popular. And the response was overwhelming from people who were just like, I had no idea that there were all these,

there's just so many fascinating ideas that have been, yeah, beaten out of the culture, you know, written out of the culture, because, you out of the cultures because you know the the current system is doing whatever it needs to to survive which involves you know not letting us find out and learn that there's these other more interesting directions to take things yeah well i think by acknowledging the existence of prior civilizations and you would logically have to be like, wait, so then what happened? Why aren't they here and why are we here? Oh, that was ugly and brutal. And OK, like, you know, it just helps avoid those conversations.

But I think that's why everyone needs to take the time to like really educate themselves and take the second to think of the things we've learned and how that's affecting the world around us and if it's positive or not, and look at things that might be positive. Look at things that are negative and recognize them for what they are. So Ian, we really appreciate you coming on to drop some knowledge on us. Yeah. We got to have you back. Where are you reading about the Jesuit accounts of their first contact with your people super dope to like read the european the european like first contacts like where they're just like these people are so dope they're so much better looking than us they're so they're so healthy their system of life is better uh like everything is better and the only thing that wasn't was that they weren't living with like with pig shit their whole lives and so they didn't have the immunity to all these horrifying diseases that europeans

have been living with on top of each other for all that time the problem with reading those jesuit diaries is you can literally like read them like twisting their mustache on how they're gonna like colonize us right they're like oh these, these savages like salt. So I'm going to use salt on the next like sermon that I use or whatever. And you're like, ooh. Anyways, thank you so much for letting me share this knowledge. Yeah, thank you for coming, man. This was great talking to you.

We have to have you back. Let everybody know where they can find you and check out some of your work and your thoughts and ideas. Yeah, at DJ Indian on most platforms. But I just started a talk show called Homies Chatting with a very prominent Indigenous writer here in Canada. He actually had like the number one book for months and months. It just dropped a third. His name is Jesse Thistle. Shout

out Jesse Thistle. And another, we have a news thing from an Indigenous perspective, Homies Chatting Sunday Edition with a prominent news journalist tanya talaga who's also an award-winning author and we're um you know spinning the the the news with an indigenous perspective dope we'll definitely check that out homies chatting on all of those yeah thank you so awesome man great having you all right guys we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back to run through a couple of stories real quick. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha Libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha Libre is a type of storytelling.

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itching to do it this is one of the people who didn't call for uh outright blood in the streets uh which is very interesting because the people who got a lot of the attention were the most violent um officers but this other officer uh gilmore was also fired uh because he said when they were like according to this internal investigation he said he was only concerned he was concerned quote with kneeling down with the black folks uh-huh uh and then went on he said that he was he watched a video on social media showing white people bowing down on their knees and quote worshiping blacks end quote and then his next quote is quote how many times uh have i told you it's almost like they think they're their own god uh-huh then i saw a video fine looking white girl and this punk little pretty boy bowing down and

kissing their toes so he was fired for that uh still just very odd disturbing racist language yeah uh and then so but this man is now insisting he should be reinstated uh because my honor uh religious beliefs so what he said is he claimed that because his comments were religious in nature uh because he said i began to discuss a matter of which i hold strong religious beliefs parenthetical christian that this is from his this is from his letter uh that being uh that being worship of the lord the holy bible teaches that no one should bow down before another human being or idol and worship that that's why i was saying that's why they shouldn't be worshiping black folks uh and i was also agreeing with the guy who was also saying violent stuff, but you know, uh, I read my case,

but it was more trying to scam. It was his objection to bowing to anything to, to yeah. Yeah. Uh, totally. I buy that. Let's give this guy a gun and let him legally murder people. Yeah,

for sure. Put him in a black neighborhood. Yeah. Yeah. I want a guy whose concept of good and evil involves the devil. And I want him to have a gun and drive around and be able to clap anything or anyone. That's just like, even that you're like, that's not actually a good thing. The entire thing, he says, my entire conversation was based upon personal beliefs that I expressed to another officer based on my religious beliefs.

I did not make any comments based upon racist ideology. Comments based upon racist ideology. And my comments were directed towards the Black Lives Matters movement, which has cost officers their lives, threatened officers with death, threatened to kill other officers, family members to include their children. This movement includes members of all races and is not solely comprised of black members of society. And then goes on to this really, really just he digs the hole even deeper. But yes, because religion um not wow he went and found all this language that he didn't have while he was talking on this body cam yeah like wow if you felt this strongly like why didn't we hear this on the body cam because what you said on the body cam just

sounded like racism i'm pro-life i'm also pro-life i'm also pro-life even though kill him in the streets but i'm pro-life too also like how dare you talk about black lives matter and talk about police lives being threatened like bruh but that's the whole basis of black lives matter i know but he tried he tried with his kroger brand scam and it didn't work tried it he tried yeah really tried and you hate to even see someone try with such a weak ass excuse just you know accepted you are living in a if i guess finally society caught up where you can't talk like that anymore at least for now and then maybe you'll find employment at another department and you know he doesn't even believe this one like this is just so transparently it's like having a writer's room right you went in there and being like okay guys

i'll try and spin this like the guy This guy said the bowing to the feet. I don't know. What would be the wackiest way he defends himself from this racism? Okay, I got a pitch. Go ahead, Lizzy. Cow-tow. So they were cow-towing because that's a form of bowing, right? Okay, yeah.

So we say that he's vegetarian, and that's why he don't fuck with the cow-tow. I see. You feel me? You feel me? Okay, but we need something more than dietary restrictions. We need something broader. We need something broader. It has to be like sexual orientation

or like religious beliefs or something like that. Okay. Okay. I like that because he could say that he had a religious belief that Black Lives Matter is worshiping at the altar of black lives. Oh, I think the first version be like

the religious belief that black period that white people are the superior race and you're like no no no that doesn't no no no it has to be a little more nuanced okay okay okay i got that i got that wrong That was Sean Musket. It seems like he went and got his masters in racism. Like, that's what this reads like. So that's what's going on. That's the state of these. Again, you know, it's a lot of these white supremacists see that the shot clock is running out.

So trying to get it all in as much as you can now, but it's very disheartening to see the volume of these kinds of things yeah the uh i liked the guy who threw the red paint on the black lives matter mural out in front of trump plaza but it was like watercolor or something because like it was just it's just like white they just like squeegeed it off and it it was gone. It was more of a nuisance than vandalism. They're like, for real? Give me a napkin. He thought he was going to cover it up,

and it was just a little dash at the bottom of one of the letters, and they're just like, okay. How poetic. But he's also kind of one of those racists who doesn't have the same energy, so he's like, well, I can't use, the other paint will get me in serious trouble. At least this paint, it makes a statement

and they actually can't really do anything. So I don't care. I don't care that much, but I'm not gonna go to jail over it. He went to the store and got a bunch of Crayolas. Yeah, melted them down. He's got his paint set. Yep.

And just splashed it and ran. What is it? What a hero. Those watercolor palettes, I just pulled out like the dry part and put it in a bucket of water and use my blender and i turned that into big watercolor paint elsewhere in white supremacy the trump family uh donald trump retweeted a tweet from chuck woolery uh because that's the version of reality we live in from the love connection

wasn't that yeah he's a he's a white supremacist big trump supporter and he tweeted that the cdc is exaggerating this rise in coronavirus to hurt the trump administration and to hurt his re-election campaign and trump retweeted it, forcing the CDC to be like, seriously, man? Imagine if you thought everything, like genuinely thought that everything was about you. Yeah. Like, this is like if I show up to the race for the cure and I'm like, who am I racing for? What about me? I appreciate y'all.

I appreciate y'all. Thank you so much. This is for me, right? Like, what are you talking about, sir? Nobody's out here trying to die for your presidential campaign. It's just, they don't have really anything else. People are dying. He's like, why y'all dying trying to make me look bad with y'all deaths?

Fuck is wrong with y'all. Fuck that dying shit off. And that's what's also more of it is like we're here trying to like we have health care workers who you know there's a very large concern that people are going to turn their back on this form of employment after this because it's so harrowing we're close to losing i think a thousand health care workers because of the pandemic and it's like one of those things, the president can't even look at that and say like, yo, those are,

those are people like fighting for this country and we need to protect them. Or we need to also signal to people getting in this industry that you will, we will take you as seriously as the people we send to go steal oil halfway across the world. You know, like there's this, I like my healthcare workers who don't get sick. Those are the ones you know, they know what they're up to. I know. And that's what's really, really dark about all this too,

is that there's also a group of people who are so invested in maintaining their, you know, the optics of racial superiority in this country that they're willing to, I don't know, find a way to argue that this massive amount of death isn't real. And it's actually just like the result of like haters. That's such a fucking dark reality.

I mean, that's just, that's where we are. Yo, some guy in Michigan stabbed somebody for trying to get him to wear a mask, wear a mask, right? The dude was like 70 or so, 80, right?

The old man got stabbed. Yeah, old man got stabbed, and then the cops had to chase the guy down and shoot him because he went after the cops with a knife, all because he was mad that they asked him to wear a mask. A mask. Went to jail wear a mask so um went to jail and over a mask and then finally uh ivanka is out here with i mean at least somebody in this family's you know bringing out some new ideas

you know where where's the where's the fresh thinking so basically her response is i i think there's this thought among conservatives and white liberals also that part of the problem is that unemployment benefits are too good. And so nobody wants to go out and get a new job. So now that the coronavirus wrecked the economy, nobody wants to go out and get a new job because the unemployment benefits are too good. So like now know people are just gonna sit at home uh and so ivanka uh stepped in a hero and said guys try something new if if you lost your job just try something new try a different career um on bastille day uh on the day that uh she said let them eat cake yes cake that looks like a chicken cutlet yes oh boy they i mean this cool yeah cool cool very that out of touch but this is the culture this is the culture of people in power in this country they i've not

heard a a single word uh from most of these people i would say 99 of people on the right uh that actually have any kind of like consideration for like the humanity of it all she's got a job because her dad is president like she literally has a job because her dad well it's not like she went to wharton she's like she went to wharton because her dad is president. Like she literally has a job because her dad is president. Yeah, well, it's not like she went to Wharton. It's not like she went to Wharton because her dad went there. Right. So try a new angle. Yeah.

But yeah, my dad did go here, but that's not why I went. I also independently believed it was a school that I could get into without doing anything. So, hmm. Exactly. I don't know, dude. What are they going to do? The clock is ticking like the only way i feel like they even know this from a strategic standpoint is making shit darker isn't gonna bring

more people out or maybe in the way that they think like if they're going to try and get more people to soften up to the idea of voting, reelecting him, then you would need to see some bit of compassion because it seems like despite what your party align or allegiances are, there are a lot of people looking at this situation like this has we're not handling this properly at all. I think they think if they drive people back to work and into the streets that they can get the capitalism machine going again because then once everybody's busy once everybody is out and socializing then maybe trump's america won't seem so bad to the racists who are questioning it because everybody else knows this shit has been shit but to racist white folks who are like we're voting for white

supremacy if they're now struggling and below you know even further below the poverty line than they already were and they have nothing to do but look at the news and how their president is handling shit, then they can't be distracted by the fact that he's terrible. If you're a white person in America, to a certain extent, when Trump was first elected, you could ignore everything that he was doing because it largely wasn't affecting you. And now it's affecting everyone.

So I think they're like, we got to get people back to work. We got to get them distracted. They're watching too much news. it's like we were saying yesterday like if they if these people were actually good with their money they would have looked at the the lowest cost version of getting through the pandemic to get their businesses going again rather than just like this reactionary thing of like don't stop believing please and now it's like just getting us into all kinds of shit where now we're gonna have to back our teachers um and like our neighbors like we need there's so many

other things like we're the opening of schools is just like so cynical that it's just you you can't you almost like it's hard for you to believe that people are gonna fuck around with the lives of children like really i mean i mean they already did with the way they don't actually tackle a lot of the mass shooting problems that happen in schools but right even like with the math betsy devos was doing some people did like the calculations based on like you know like it could just be this small number it was still dwarf like it was blowing out any numbers that have happened with school shootings in like the history of this country i just i'm waiting on people to realize that the government doesn't care about them like is it gonna happen is it gonna happen i'm not sure it's actually quite insane so i mean

we'll see shit ivanka what what should i try what she say i should try something new try something new yeah she didn't have no suggestions she didn't have any job working why don't you try it making money why don't you try that you're a terrible guidance counselor of all i know i just go i go to the guidance counselor i'm like so what should i do she's like i don't know girl it's not new i mean essentially like the the if she is the guidance counselor the student that comes in which is working america going hey man i'm all kinds of fucked up i don't know what the fuck is going on. Like, I just see no way out of this.

There's barely any hope coming out of the white house. Uh, and I'm really failing to grasp onto something that could sustain me in an actual tangible way. Hmm. Well, have you thought about finding something new? Yeah.

I have a pamphlet for something new. Yeah. I got a pamphlet for something new. No, it's, it's like one of those pieces of paper never mind miss trump never mind just just go smoke weed by the fucking what are those what are those transportables oh can i hit that portables portables portable classrooms yeah that's when you knew like well

i remember after the earthquake half my school became portables because half the buildings were so fucked up yeah like our parking lot became our new school shout out to 1994 coming yeah again uh all right guys lacy it's been wonderful as always having you on the show yes i love being love being here. Where can people find you, follow you, enjoy you? If you guys want something new, guys. If you want to try something new? If you want to try something new,

Scam Goddess on all platforms. That's my podcast about scams. And then if you want to find me, I'm at D-I-B-A-L-A-C-I, Diva Lacey on all platforms. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying?

Okay, here. I'm just gonna share my own tweet. There you go. Please. I just said, the fact that y'all really think black people are goofy enough to vote for Kanye West is upsetting me and my homegirls. I mean, he got 2% in that poll.

He got 2%? That's way more than I expected That's a lot, a lot of stupidity But hey, you know when you got the backing of Chance And Terry Crews, I mean The triumvirate of power has been Completed And someone said on the tweet, Danielle Perez She said, if you can't vote in your

Best interest, where the hell can you vote? Shout out to Danny. Miles, where can people find you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, Miles of Grey, and also my other podcast, 420 Day Fiance. You know, we're talking about 90 Day Fiance, getting high, you know, doing that thing. Some tweets that I like. First one, actually, the only one is from at orb goddess she says white guys be like you're so fucking hot babe it's stupid it's funny how like twitter reduces old comedy bits down to like that used to be

like the genre of like white people do this you know like black people oh come here girl I wanna and then it's like

and white people are like you're so fucking hot but I just like now we're just reducing down to you're so fucking hot babe

but it's F-U-C-K-E-N you're so fucking hot babe I love that you both know the accent of it too but yeah

you're so fucking hot babe it's cause you gotta you gotta chew on that F you're so too but yeah you're so fucking hot babe it's cause you gotta you gotta chew on that F you're so fucking hot fucking hot babe ooh but it's been making you feel good when a white man say that to you you're so fucking hot babe you know they mean it you know they mean it

yes uh uh uh at Isaiah Lester tweeted my weed man can finally afford an iphone i did that uh and james at hey buddy comic tweeted depressed people's favorite netflix category is watch again gets at a very specific type of depression that I often suffer from. Regressing into the time loop of nothing will change.

It's my favorite genre. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode

as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what's that going to be today? This is a track from Yasmin Lacey and it's called Marie. She is an East London singer is a track from yasmin lacey and it's called marie uh she is a east london singer and i don't know the vibe of this track just feels like you know like like 2020 erica badu

uh because her voice is really like you know there's power in it but she's like holding it back uh which is like one of my favorite kinds of singing when like you know you're like oh don't don't unleash the whole thing on him now uh and the production is really cool with some nice like bubbling electronic piano electric piano so check it out jasmine lacy it's like a it's like a lacy mosley aka you know just holding it back well today she she let him know she could have been in hamilton she did let him know uh edit that the daily zeitgeist the production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows that is going to do it for us this morning we'll be back this afternoon to tell you what's

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