The Daily Zeitgeist - Dem Fightin Words? 2021 TidePods 2.17.21

Episode Date: February 17, 2021

In episode 813, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Blair Socci to discuss Trump's impeachment acquittal, the criminal lawsuits against Trump, Covid cases dropping in India, The Gorilla Glue challen...ge, and more!FOOTNOTES: Trump's two impeachments hold same lesson: Republicans can't be trusted with our democracy I Don’t Just Want Trump Impeached. I Want Him Jailed. India’s dramatic fall in virus cases leaves experts stumped Covid-19’s Global Divide: As West Reels, Asia Keeps Virus at Bay Not again! Gorilla Glue Challenge sends Louisiana man to the ER WATCH: E-TERNITY - Sade Loaded Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:05 and completely ad free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iheart true crime plus only on apple podcasts hello the internet and welcome to season 172 episode 2 of your daily side case the production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It is Wednesday, February 17th, 2021. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Where do dad jokes come with pale thighs? They don't go to Rogan or those crooked guys. It's TDZ with Jack O'Brien.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Hear him with Miles on the Daily Zeitgeist. That is courtesy of Grand Rapidians Play Video Games at Grand underscore video. And I'm thrilled to be joined once again by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray!
Starting point is 00:03:01 Famous Bulls! Let the KFC inside you! Famous Bulls Let the KFC inside you Famous Bulls Mashed potatoes Crispy chicken Famous Bulls I like to shoot the Coleslaw
Starting point is 00:03:16 Famous Bulls Homestyle gravy Shredded cheeses Shredded cheeses Wow Christy Yamaguchi, man You know we're by Lamos With Enrique in here Shredded cheeses. Shredded cheeses. Wow. Christy Yamaguchi, man. You know we're by Lamos with Enrique in here.
Starting point is 00:03:31 And then you make it to Famous Bowls. And the detail about me watching people sip the coleslaw juice from the parking lot. You did it all, my man. So thank you for that one. I've still not recovered from that visual. That vige, as they call it. Sipping the slaw? Shooting the slaw.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I mean, because you get the big quart one, like the family size side at KFC, because that's the only way you're getting enough juice. That's what I've noticed. People who sip, they get this one, and then they crack the lid just enough so the slaw doesn't get out and let all the juice in. It's a vibe. And then just a batch of dry slaw. Do you. And I'm going to do me.
Starting point is 00:04:11 There's a whole bunch of families out there who think that KFC has dry slaw. And the truth is that whoever was picking up was just shooting it. Sipping them. Yep. Well, Miles, we are thrilled, fortunate, lucky to be joined by the hilarious, the talented Blair Saki! Oh, what's up, Daily Zeitgeist? There you are. Oh my god, it's so good to be back.
Starting point is 00:04:39 It's like an exhale. And guys, fellas, I gotta tell you, never have i been more hyped by an opening both of those incredible absolutely knock my freaking socks off thank you so much you know you're the brewing that everybody should have been new in uh and thank you for coming to the show and it's nice to see you yeah you guys you guys. It's great to see you guys. Team UCLA, UCLA gang, brewing gang. I mean, Blair graduated a few years after me
Starting point is 00:05:10 as we found out. Right. Definitely not this, definitely not contemporaries as I did some light number crunching. Blair is 19 years old. And I am 48.
Starting point is 00:05:23 It's so crazy that you seem to be a bit surprised to find out that i graduated in 2018 yeah it was because you're making all the same generational references i felt like we were talking about the same professors but you know what it's just these people have just been there for a long time yeah i just studied up you know how are your you got the blue blockers on the yellow blue light black like i thought it was a bit because i said oh you have claskey supo vibes and i'm loving it but you're you're protecting your eyes yeah my eyes are tired kind of just goes with my whole general aura of being a sleepy girl
Starting point is 00:05:59 um but yeah i need some protection so um yeah lots of people ruthlessly make fun of me, like my friend Rosebud for wearing these. But, you know, here I am. I mean, look, you're doing what you got to do. You're protecting yourself. Yeah, dog. What's the problem? I think Rosebud's jealous, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:06:19 Because your eyes are going to be fucked so healthy and hers are going to be so strained. Yeah, I know. She's really, really overcome with jealousy about my glasses. That's what I say. Well, she will be when she's blind. Yeah. That's me being a supportive aunt slash mother.
Starting point is 00:06:35 It's their jealousy. Yeah. Their jealousy. This conversation is identical to the conversation I had last night with my wife. She wore her blue blocker, blue light blocking glasses to bed for the first time. Orange? They're not.
Starting point is 00:06:52 They're actually pretty see-through. I thought she was coming from the gun range because they kind of looked like those clear see-through glasses that people are supposed to wear when they're... Protective eyewear, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know the ones.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Wait, you wear them to bed to sleep with them on or just saying doing a little light browsing? No, just when she's doing a light browse. Yep, yep. Yeah. Why can't they just put it into our screen so we don't have to wear glasses? You know what I'm saying? There is an app that's called Flux, I think, or there used to be. This was years ago.
Starting point is 00:07:25 And it just makes your whole screen look orange. It's definitely Flux because this is when Her Majesty worked at Cracked and came back. She's like, you don't have Flux on your thing? I'm like, what is going on? Everyone in my office uses Flux. Team Flux. You're fucking your eyes up. I'm like, okay, they're fucked already, but thank you.
Starting point is 00:07:41 All right, Blair, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today, such as and the. Yeah, Trump got acquitted again. The GOP showing everyone who they are. And the Democrats are, you know, still being like, all right, guys, come on. What's going on now that you got out of your system use human emotions to shame them and uh that doesn't work uh we're going to talk about possible criminal lawsuits there's not much on that as of yet but uh you know criminal lawsuits
Starting point is 00:08:19 against trump might be might have a future uh we are going to talk about there's a good mystery on the covid front cases are suddenly dropping in india so uh as i was looking into that i also noticed that like when they say that cases were spiking in india before it was like still under one person per 100 000 it was like so low so then i started digging into like why are cases like why why was it all asian countries and like eastern countries so much better uh than the west at controlling covet i still so two covet mysteries for us um and we'll talk about Texas, which is another example of just a catastrophic global failure by a Western United States government to prepare for a slow motion disaster. All of that, plenty more. But first, Blair, we like to ask our guest.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Oh, by the way, we will hopefully get to the gorilla glue challenge uh and and tell you why you you probably shouldn't partake but you know i mean look if if you think you're brave i mean maybe but you're a fucking g you don't pull up to that solo cup uh but first blair we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? For once, it wasn't something so damning. The top was just yellow velvet pillow. So just do with that what you will. I will.
Starting point is 00:09:59 You're decorating? You know, my apartment keeps becoming progressively brighter and brighter everywhere um it's starting to look like fucking lollipop land i don't know i'm really trying to like i just i'm like i need to create my own bright world inside these walls, you know? So that's what's going on. You got yellow tinted glasses, so all velvet pillows are going to be a little yellow for you right now. Save money, just get white pillows. Put those glasses on.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Cut the search down by a lot. Whoa, this is why you have friends. Two geniuses. No, I tried doing that and Her Majesty did a lot like when I was offering that as a solution for things. Oh, we'll just put on different colored glasses. Now it looks like how we want it. That's not the point. Okay, to you.
Starting point is 00:11:01 I will say a little bit of a silver lining lately is that it's no longer getting dark at like five. And so I find myself going outside every once in a while and the sky looks like a unicorn frap from Starbucks. Frap just came out of nowhere for me. I love it. Did you know you're supposed to freeze those when you buy them at the store wait really i saw some tiktok you know how tiktok be like oh this gonna fuck your whole head up and i was like yeah do your worst what and it was those glass frappuccino
Starting point is 00:11:37 pre-made shits you buy at the store like you freeze them like just a little bit before it becomes full ice block a little bit and then becomes full ice block. Just a little bit. And then you just spin it around and then you got a frap. And I was like, damn, I didn't even think about that. I was just drinking a straight. They didn't tell me that. Yeah, anyway. That's cool as hell.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Yeah. Just a little bit. Yeah, just brightening your environment. That's like one thing that's the next level up of like actually doing something uh that like i can't get to my my desk is a complete disaster of like old gum wrappers and if these desks could talk jack yeah you were both you and my you're doing great i mean you're hosting this goddamn podcast for the entire nation every day. I think you're really showing up hard.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Who cares about a rapper on your desk? What's a little bitch rapper? The most color I have is a bottle of acetaminophen and some old yellow Trident. Oh, man. Acetaminophen, which, by the way, I don't think I've ever pronounced fully, looks really gorgeous in that bottle. I know, right?
Starting point is 00:12:52 Yeah. It's a little blue and red. They had to up the game a little bit to evoke Tylenol with the Kirkland brand signature. Wait, that's how you say it? What is it? Acetometaphen? I love Kirkland brand.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I thought it was Ace Tammy Nofen. signature wait that's how you say it what is it i love kirkland that was ace tammy no fan all right well dude that's i was taught to break it up into manageable chunks ace tammy nope hen i cannot even believe the amount the the audience has been educated already in these first five minutes. Yeah, exactly. Wild. You're welcome, and that's a free education for this podcast. The only reason I know that is a White Stripes
Starting point is 00:13:33 song where he sings, I seen a medicine? You seen the medicine? He rhymes. Yeah. Some kind of genius, huh? What the fuck is he saying? Yeah, some kind of genius. What is something, Blair, that you think is underrated? Okay, so Pringles are so fucking good. I cannot even believe we as a nation are not talking about them every day.
Starting point is 00:13:59 They're the perfect chip. And sure, they are almost entirely made up of chemicals, but they are the perfect chemicals they are my chemicals and the sack chips in that messless cylindrical container heavy i'll put down two canisters on a writing deadline no problem won't even know what happened blackout put down another style cream and, go back for a nacho cheese. Pringles are incredible. Pringles?
Starting point is 00:14:28 I thought you said Bugles. No, no, Pringles. Get your head in the game, Jack. Pringles, man. Absolute hit. Batty 1000. Oh, man. Pringles, I mean, there's something about it. Because you know it's a bunch of potatoes that they reformed into chip shape.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Right. With some flour, I feel like. It's like a part pasta part. I don't know. It's got. I feel like there's a pasta-ness about it where it breaks down like pasta does a little bit in your mouth. Pasta is not the first word that comes to mind. Definitely not.
Starting point is 00:15:02 I was wrong to use that. But they do have a pizza flavor. So I kind of get where you're going you know but you know like do you feel like it's like part of flowery thing like there's potato and flower mixture or is that just me i don't know i think they're so light and airy that my mind doesn't go to potato again i feel like they're purely artificial but in a way that works in just gorgeousness and the thing is like people don't talk about them enough but they're exquisite timely and you can all you timeless and you can always count on them yeah yeah they are
Starting point is 00:15:40 probably among the most consistent snack foods. I still remember their commercial that had the papa. Oh, mao, mao, papa Pringles, pow. And like, it was like on the beach.
Starting point is 00:15:51 And then I remember the way they were shading normal chips was a dude was reaching in a bag of lays. And he had like the just wild grease hand and got just turned his beach shirt translucent from all the grease from eating a bag of chips. And they say, greasy, not fun. Uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh. And I was like, yo, okay. All right, Pringles. I remember those. Those were genius.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And it was like, once you pop, you just can't stop. Or is that a different commercial? Well, I think it's once you pop, the fun don't stop. Oh, yes. That's where greasy, not fun. Uh-uh, uh-uh. I mean, look, maybe my brain was rotted by 90s marketing, and that's all I know. But I do know that to be true.
Starting point is 00:16:28 But Once You Pop, You Can't Stop was also an era of Pringles marketing, right? Of someone, I think another one, right? Wasn't it Corn Pops? No, Corn Pops is I Gotta Have My Pops. Oh, wow, geez. You have incredible recall, Miles. Dude, because that used to have the jaws theme song on the commercials that used to fuck me up with corn pops right because we done them and i was like oh fuck bro what's going on cereal or is that because i
Starting point is 00:16:57 had an irrational fear of sharks from jaws i would never sleep i would never swim in a pool at night because i couldn't see the shit uh so you know right I'm working through my own shit with my therapist I remember when I went to Universal Studios and I took that tour ride and Jaws came out I was like seven or eight was so shocked full started crying I was like what the hell was that someone thought that was appropriate just to stop while the killer shark that's like four times the size of the person jumps out at me you started crying or the tour guide me me me cry baby i'd be impressed with the tour guide fully broken so shocked every time every time um pringles did have a once you stop you once you pop you can't stop slogan in the 90s which is
Starting point is 00:17:48 right when junk food was becoming like engineered to be so addictive that we had a national obesity epidemic so there's like some truth in advertising there where uh they they kind of get at the addictiveness of their own products, but make it fun, a fun addiction. Yeah, if I have one chip, I'm putting down two full tennis ball containers. Yeah. Yeah, that I think is one of the most brilliant things about it is the container.
Starting point is 00:18:18 It can't make sense. It can't make sense of what you're eating. Yeah, and it's also so consistent. It's always that just straight up and down stack of chips so cleanly too and you don't have to worry about them getting smashed in your backpack on the way to the beach right yeah pringles are the one uh chip that i feel like it's appropriate to eat at the beach it's like the snack food of the beach for no reason other than they did that a lot in their commercials yeah i think it but for whatever reason other than they did that a lot in their commercials. Yeah. I think it, but for
Starting point is 00:18:46 whatever reason, I think because there's a lid, you're like, ha, take that sand versus like folding over the top of a bag. Yeah, you can just crush chips so easily, accidentally. They're so delicate. And Pringles holler at us, just drop the bag off at Blair's house. You know what time it is.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Or the cylindrical can. Yeah, or that. Whichever. Yeah, we'll take our money in that. She's busting more cans than fucking Shredder and Ninja Turtles. Also, Brad Pitt, probably the first time
Starting point is 00:19:15 you saw Brad Pitt was in a Pringles ad. He was in a very early Pringles ad at the beach crushing some Pringles. Really? I love Brad, man. What is something you think is overrated, Blair?
Starting point is 00:19:31 Wait. Oh, yeah. I didn't do that one. Okay. I want to say, you know, what is overrated, Jack and Miles? Okay, yeah. It's the word normalize. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:19:42 It's right up there with adulting now folks makes my skin crawl when i hear the word normalize i just want to stop the day right there and go back to bed normalize nope i'm done good night see you tomorrow i hope to begin a new day then yeah super normalization man what are the what. What are the headlines you read that are overusing it? You know, the internet is unmatched capacity to make you hate stuff. I expend a lot of energy trying not to be poisoned by that. It's cancer of making you knee-jerk hate stuff. But when you just like mindlessly absorb
Starting point is 00:20:26 it over and over every once like normalize normalize normalize normalize I can't read this fucking word one more time if you're putting it in your tweets it's garbage hmm so yeah that's why I didn't like my tweet don't normalize white
Starting point is 00:20:42 supremacy I didn't see that one we just never had a live sub tweet That's why you didn't like my tweet. Don't normalize white supremacy. Oh, I didn't see that one. Okay. No, I'm just, you know, I'm just making sure. We just never had a live subtweet on that one. I just want to do a A and B call real quick. Now I'm fucking with you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:52 I was just going to say, I was like, if I saw that tweet, definitely would have went with something else. I would have made another choice. I think, yeah, just normalize just means like is whack. Don't make this thing. Acknowledge that this is bullshit. Right. Rather than saying don't normalize it. Just say we all know this is horseshit.
Starting point is 00:21:14 And we need to be arms locked together in acknowledging this whatever topic industry is horseshit. Yeah, it's just, you know know how some like internet words get you um like yeah when i hear adult adulting like i my body really feels to a child yeah yeah you get one of those hats with the little propeller top on grows out of your head i I'm a kid. Now that I'm never getting invited back on this podcast. You're coming back no matter what. The one thing I hear a lot, though, is like my one friend said he hates lean into. Oh, yeah. Or lean in.
Starting point is 00:21:55 That's the other one. Like that was the equivalent of him being like, you know what I hear? It's too damn much. I was like, oh, my God. Okay. Leaning in. But sometimes I don't know how else to do it. Like if you're talking about a bit, you gotta lean into a bit. I don't know any
Starting point is 00:22:09 other way to make that expression. I guess overindulged. Yeah. It's too wordy. Too many syllables. Steer into the spin. That's another version of that. Yeah, that's like... Extra aviation. Extra old Wic me. I just thought of... Extra aviation.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Oh. Extra old Wicca. I just thought of a little addendum also. Also overrated, loud cars and motorcycles. That's mostly what I spend my time on the internet campaigning against. These very troubled men pay to make their cars loud and then you know just make a whole show careening down the street and um i really really don't like them and i think they have little baby dongs there's a there's a there's tension in my neighborhood
Starting point is 00:22:59 with a loud exhaust at the moment someone's got they have a remote start car and the pipes on here. When I say they're there, these pipes are louder than at Wiz Khalifa's house because he shits. I get, they, they freaked the fuck out of me. Cause out of nowhere, it's like,
Starting point is 00:23:18 and I'm like, Oh fuck. But you know, I get it. Like, you know, people want to have their gearhead life but at a certain point i'm like isn't there like a can't you put like a manner mode on where you're like let me
Starting point is 00:23:30 let me start this like keep it low-key till i get out of my neighborhood where there might be sleeping people or babies and then turn it up or whatever but it is what it is i know i hate being like an old man like a 90 year old man about it but i guess i don't know i i am one of the unfortunately a highly sensitive person it really gets in my nervous system really nice is it traffic like by your place that gets you or just whenever you're is it just because or you for you you're all about tranquility turn everything yellow put the yellow sunglasses on, the vibes are yellow. You know what it is? Is I spend like an hour or two walking outside a day
Starting point is 00:24:09 just for my health and the pandemic being inside. And it'll always be like right at the moment I'm on the phone with my grandma or something. And then like literally the whole call
Starting point is 00:24:24 gets just blacked out by some fucking asshole who's like, I gotta make up for the pain inside me. Yeah. I wonder if he's also trying to catch your attention, being like, check me out. I have a loud car. That's never crossed my mind.
Starting point is 00:24:45 I wear a giant mom visor for sun protection. Nice. Also, you and my wife should hang out. She's doing the same thing. Hang out and talk about sun protection. And then waving her fist angrily at loud cars that pass by. Yeah. No, you know I don't even do that.
Starting point is 00:25:03 I don't react at all. I just silently die a little bit yeah every once i heard that the i forget which muscle car it was but one of them maybe all the like mustang and charger and all those cars when i heard that they had like basically a little speaker in their uh muffler that was like creating the noise. It totally made me look at that. Like it's just synthetic at this point. Cause you just don't need like the cars are sophisticated enough that they
Starting point is 00:25:37 don't need to do that anymore, but they are like still just to like give whatever that urge is a place to play. They're, they're creating, they're like playing a sound of an old motor essentially. Yeah. And,
Starting point is 00:25:53 but then it'll play it into your speakers in the car though, too, to give you the sense that your car is that loud outwardly. Yeah. It's just, okay. I am absolutely sickened. Yeah, but I get it, you know, like at a certain point, it's like okay i am absolutely sickened yeah but i get it you know like at a certain point it's like i remember you know as a kid you i'd ride a bike you could hear a car
Starting point is 00:26:12 behind you or something right you know yeah yeah and i think as it gets quieter because now in the advent of like hybrids and stuff and i ride my bike a lot more now like i get i uh hybrids sneak up on me pretty easily, but not to the point where it's everyone safe, but I'm always like, oh, there's a difference sonically in the environment where like I used to hear old ass car, but. Yeah, it's more of a,
Starting point is 00:26:33 it's like a high pitched whine of like whatever's cooling the computer off is like the thing you get. It's never like a slow start though. It's always violent. Like they are slamming on real hard. Like everyone look at me while I make you mad. And, you know.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Yeah. Or people on like motorcycle. I get sometimes on motorcycles, like they'll rev to like get people's attention because sometimes people are like. But then there are other people who are just like, especially when you're in an overpass, a concrete sound chamber and someone's like i'm gonna turn it up in here and you're like you're gonna fuck everything up and it's just too much too much yeah that is the thing that uh harleys i guess are one of the safest motorcycles because they're so loud and one of the big problems with motorcycles on the road is like drivers of cars just like don't register them because they're not like looking for that size vehicle. And our brains are stupid computers that are like programmed for very few things.
Starting point is 00:27:38 And so people that's like we need those speakers, actually. Yeah. Hit them. Okay. I'll admit I've never heard that before, and I just crossed the aisle to understand a little bit more about my foes. My foes. My nemeses, my enemies,
Starting point is 00:27:58 and now I know a little bit more about their motorcycle culture, trying to keep themselves safe. The truck's still no excuse, but thank you for educating me a bit exactly if you got a 2002 act legend uh you know a 92 act legend with the wild ass come on now we we understand we understand what you're trying to do but it's okay nobody's judging you on how loud you can yell for your parents to come back yeah i was just thinking of like things they could add to the like in addition to the motor hum like something like unapproving like uh you're doing great yeah from your dad i really did I really did.
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Starting point is 00:33:10 acquit trump over the weekend uh which nobody was surprised by but the the fact that democrats are still treating the republicans the way they did like in the 80s and 90s like in 1880s yeah yeah well in the 1880s i feel like they used to uh like beat each other on the floor of the of congress uh i feel like they could bring that back maybe but yeah it's just a it's just a mess in there yeah and it's it i think that's what's really tough. Right. Is because from, you know, the second we were fully in the Trump era, we were like, oh, yeah, this isn't this is another thing. This is like the Borg has Taylor White supremacy. Borg has taken over. And it's like there's no there doesn't be any rhyme or reason to it. It's like we're just going to get in the way or try and dismantle anything that was it will create any kind of forward movement or progress. anything that was it will create any kind of forward movement or progress and yeah like the democrats really been like hey it's such a shame you know what these people like it's it's
Starting point is 00:34:12 really it's really unsettling that they'll do this it's like but you knew what was going on this has been the case and they still want to do this thing of like well they weren't always like this it's like yes they weren't always like this it's like yes they were but you're just at a level where the discourse has come to a point where there's no there is no thing to hide for the hide behind for the republicans they used to be like it's not about racism it's about this thing it's not about uh limiting the rights of lgbtq people it's about this thing now it's just fully like fuck you i don't care he's guilty but we're not gonna do shit because that's the side we're on and you must be out your fucking head if you think we're
Starting point is 00:34:47 gonna vote against that come the fuck on is what they just said over the weekend and so now i'm like please democrats yeah they've read there there is no there is literally i mean people have been begging for a deck over a decade decades now to just destroy the filibuster at this point but now you really there's no reason at all to engage these people like they have any kind of good if they're any sort of good faith actor about anything they say they're not they're spending all their time right now in state legislatures trying to you know like examine the genitals of of female athletes because they're suspicious of like trans kids competing or trying to change the laws around voting. It's a full court press of fuckery like outside of DC.
Starting point is 00:35:33 And if you're not going to acknowledge that and be like, okay, well now we need to go from 1990 Barry Bonds to 2006 Barry Bonds where my head is gigantic because I see the game is changing. That's what we need because the game is different. and they're still trying to be like well maybe we can beat them fair they're not fighting fair so how are you gonna beat them fair and it's not to say that ending the filibuster is unfair it's just this really fucking outdated procedural mechanism that acts as a kill switch for any kind of policy, the minority, which is always the Republicans in this case, or even when they're in the majority, but the, they will always use that as a kill switch for any kind of progress. Because what that means is by saying that by using the filibuster,
Starting point is 00:36:16 that means it will take seven or 60 votes to advance any legislation to the president's desk rather than a simple majority, which is what most people think. It's like, Oh, the Democrats have a majority or there's like Kamala Harris can be the tie breaking vote. Now all this other stuff can happen. But with the filibuster there that allows them to keep debate open for
Starting point is 00:36:36 fucking ever. And there's a lot of things too, where like Mitch McConnell, he's like, well, we can't get rid of the filibuster. It's good for bipartisan. It's not good for it's that's bullshit. That's just there to pretend that it's there for bipartisanship the reason he doesn't use it or like the times where he will eliminate
Starting point is 00:36:54 the filibuster is when he has to get supreme court nominees confirmed that's when he'll that's when he'll be like nope just a majority now just a majority we're not allowing that now because i got to get this goon through. Or like the other thing is they have a loophole too where they don't need, like there's no threat of the filibuster when it comes to certain things like tax bills or spending because they can do that under budget reconciliation, which is another process that just requires 50 votes. So it's like a loophole where they don't say we need it or whatever, but they're always getting away with shit. And the shit that they use it for civil rights, filibustered the fuck out gun control, filibustered the fuck out the Dream Act in 2010 when that shit could have gone through filibustered. So this is like what, you know, we're saying that they have all these ways to undermine progress. that they have all these ways to undermine progress and we're still allowing we're still putting those tools on the table for them acting as if they're going to be like okay well come on
Starting point is 00:37:50 you do think uh forgiving student debt or student loan debt is going to be good right well i guess not if you can't get 60 of us you know what i mean like that's where it gets so fucking messy and you just want to be like okay come on democrats yeah let's go is it pop like who is in favor of ending the filibuster i feel like i've seen a lot of people who aren't nancy pelosi and chuck schumer like come out in favor of it but like what where are i mean you'll see like john tester or like kristin cinema these like you know these fucking noodle spined democrat senators were like well you don't know because well if we do that then my part it just ensures minority rule right you know what i mean like there's no and there's nothing sacred about it like it's been
Starting point is 00:38:39 altered taken away many times throughout the course of the like the history of this nation so it's just this idea like there's because there's also this fear of like well then what happens if the republicans are in control we've seen what the fuck happens you're worried about the filibuster they'll do whatever the fuck they have to but then you're gonna then suddenly put the brakes on your ability to start put meaningful legislation forward because of this like fucking specter you've raised in the back of your mind that's just actual horse shit like i'm just starting to see i don't i'm failing to see what the risks are um in terms of how the gop operates and how the and the democrats are choosing to to counter that right because we're not going to get medicare for all or a green new deal with that
Starting point is 00:39:26 you think mitch mcconnell's gonna fucking roll with that no or it's a version that's the other thing too is you can tell where the democrats are too because if they don't care then they'll be like okay well fine that's why we have to work with them on this thing yeah but you don't and you should not they don't fucking deserve any kind of oxygen to be heard. you know progressives want that they don't actually want and it's like this feels like the acid test for that like is this are you going to kill the filibuster and like allow yourself to enact legislation because they have openly like they're not playing by any manner of rules anymore and so yeah it's just very frustrating it's i i don't i just don't get what their calculus is too because they're also like democrats and republicans like the single
Starting point is 00:40:35 issue voter shit fucks up platforms and policies so much because rather than looking at like what the majorities want in this like the majority of the country's like convict this dude the majority of the country's like he should be barred from holding office ever again the majority of people are like trump should never fucking be near office in any kind ever and even a majority of like republicans are what are they doing they are still focused on what the fuck their colleagues are saying these other fucking goblins that they work with thinking that's what america is but just look most americans saw what the fuck went down and they're like that's so nothing's happening what the fuck
Starting point is 00:41:18 the clock and the clock is ticking like you're gonna fucking deliver meaningful stimulus stimulus and aid to people in need in by the time the uh midterms come around with by allowing mitch mcconnell and them to muddy up everything really right i mean they know america at its core like at the dna level as a nation ruled by a wealthy like tiny minority and like so i feel like they're kind of all in on that they realize like well you can't actually even though the democrats come out and say we're we're on the side of you know popular opinion they they don't actually do the things that require them to i was wondering is there another lawsuit that could because he has another a bunch of other ones like that could bar him from holding office again or is this the last kind of hope for
Starting point is 00:42:14 that i don't know actually i don't know like what the all the legal mechanisms are aside from this but i mean there is a i mean the the the grumblings and mumblings are growing in terms of well if clearly the like that was so stupid to have his best friends be the jury slash hostages active hostages political hostages in the senate who are many of whom have said yeah the base is kind of wild right now. So I don't really want to like cross them. So I'm just going to keep my head down. You know, like what happens there?
Starting point is 00:42:51 And I think, yeah, there's talk about the attorney general of D.C. and other AGs possibly bringing criminal lawsuits for incitement against Trump. Yeah, that's what I was wondering. I mean, yeah. And I think that's the thing that everyone's talking about now i mean nancy pelosi said look there's going to be a 9-11 style commission to get to the bottom of this okay that might reveal some things but a lot of people also saying like it's a shame what happened in the in the fucking impeachment quote-unquote trial because
Starting point is 00:43:19 like jamie raskin did like all of the the impeachment managers did a really good job of just making it so clear. Like, this is what he'd been saying. This is what the people were saying. This is what the people said. They were taking his words to mean after they committed crimes. Do you see what we're, where we're going with this?
Starting point is 00:43:39 And a lot of people were like, you know, it's actually, he played out a substantial case uh for like actual incitement charges in terms of a criminal case um but i think there will be a lot of debate over trump's first amendment rights like what was protected speech what did he say it's going to be very it's the incitement part that is really difficult to like sort of prove but a lot of people like there it seems like he's he's dealing with more examples of unprotected speech than protected speech when we're talking about the evidence that was being used to sort of make this case.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Because being like, yeah, we're going to go over to the Capitol and show them, huh? Like, what else is that supposed to mean? Right. So, yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot of it's still very new. I think right now I think Americans need to get on board with the idea that Republicans are absolutely fucking gone. Like, you know, most people were like these people. Like, I think if you listen to this show, we've been saying this for a while. But if anyone still is like, well, you know, they might just. No, no.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Yeah, they looked at it. They looked this case dead in its eye and in some cases they actually avoided looking at it at all because it was so clear turned their back on the video and yeah started like cutting their toenails and shit right um that they could look at that and still say you know what it's it's not it's yeah maybe he was guilty but there but it's but that's what they're saying is when it comes to this kind of shit you can be guilty but we still won't uh hold you accountable because we need that right yeah all right let's uh move on to covid news which is positive uh but
Starting point is 00:45:19 there's like a silver lining of shit that I'd like to talk about. So India, we're seeing cases, as we talked about last week, drop around the world. And people aren't quite sure why they're dropping because there's no single explanation that would make sense. There's not enough people who are vaccinated yet. There's not enough people who are vaccinated yet. Antibody testing, for instance, India is seeing one of the biggest drops, suggest only one in five people in India had the virus. So herd immunity on its own doesn't explain it. They're in general better at masking than the United States, but the drop is uniform across locations, even locations with poor mask adoption. So as I was reading up on this, and I think the question is open, and I think it's probably a combination of all these different things combining to draw the rate of transmission down. But as I was going through this AP article on the drop i realized that like india is still even at the high point where they were measuring from it was still like below one person per 100 000 um and and i started just kind of like digging through and it's like china same japan same and this is this is like just over the past few weeks
Starting point is 00:46:46 uh but japan south korea their numbers per 100 000 are orders of magnitude away from what you're seeing in the united states uk germany italy spain um south and central american countries and you know this this has been like the wall street journal wrote about this back uh in october about like how this trend is you know happening but i i feel like we don't see it brought forward as like a like the asian societies that uh they looked at in the wall street journal, like they interviewed people and they were like, Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Like we're looking at you guys like a cautionary tale. And every time there's like a slight uptick, we all mask up because what's happening in your countries is a disaster. Um, but I feel like the other side of that, it's not being treated as like a, this is what you could have like sort of thing it's it's just like even the the degree to which like people are like there's the anti-asian racism that we're seeing
Starting point is 00:47:56 like attacks on elderly uh asian americans and like these are nations that and like that people suspect that that's associated with the pandemic and like the story not not that there should ever be like any sort of attacks on anyone but like the the story should be that those countries are like dramatically kicking our ass in terms of like how uh they approach the virus how they controlled the virus how they continue to control the virus um it's it's just kind of a story that i feel like is should be the main story uh and is getting underplayed because i think a lot of it is cultural stuff like you know people valuing the well-being of other people in other countries as opposed to in the United States where like the first or the biggest new social media trend is um anti-mask groups like people fighting for the
Starting point is 00:49:01 right to not wear masks yeah and I think maybe even like the way it's reported is like, they don't want Americans to catch wind of how much better people are treated in other countries. Exactly. Cause you do that. You're like, well, let's also talk about like wage subsidies for places like Korea or Japan.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Right. And how they immediately said, Oh, well we're going to have to take care of people's rents because if they got to stay inside, then they can't have the crush of trying to go out to make money. Then we can give them food, whatever. That was the beginnings of thinking about how to create relief. And yeah, I think that to me, it was like one of the few things I barely see reported about comparing what the what life has been like existing in the united states as a person who may have lost their job versus these
Starting point is 00:49:51 other countries because that would piss you the fuck off and you'd be like what is going on but that is i think that's another really underreported side of things it's more like huh what's going on over there rather than we might have a problem with toxic individualism that's literally killing the country these countries for centuries for eons have been on a philosophical plane about uh taking care of each other or or or duty to the community and things like that that are playing out as we see in this way too because i mean i talked to my japanese relatives and it's it's there's so many things like that will compare and contrast how it's head scratching some things are like you wouldn't wear a mask like people why wouldn't people wear a mask i'm
Starting point is 00:50:38 like yeah i don't know how to explain that to you yeah it's very difficult to explain and people like what the last time i complimented or or Japan was doing better than the United States, people were like, it's actually not that great. And there are definitely like ups and downs in other countries, just like the United States has had. It's just that their ups and downs are so much smaller than ours. are so much smaller than ours. Like the max of the India spike that they were talking about was like 40,000 or 400,000 people, which is a nation of, it's like three times the population of the United States.
Starting point is 00:51:16 So it's like, it's just nothing compared to what we're seeing in the United States. And I feel like the order of magnitude of the problem that we've had with this compared comparatively is just kind of being ignored by the media because I think people don't want to acknowledge it. The idea of wearing a mask as any loss of freedom, like that's not even saying anything about what you can do or where you can go. Anything, anything, anything like that. It's like the smallest thing. And when I see these people like where they're making that their like their movement anti-mask.
Starting point is 00:52:01 I mean, it's such a micro issue and the whole thing of freedoms to me it's it's yeah but the it's the what's funny the thing is you could never try and explain to that person like wouldn't you say that your outsized response to this is indicative of a lifetime of always being unhindered and always doing whatever the fuck you wanted to like relative to that is that what you think you're maybe pushing back you know what i mean it's hard you can't get someone to see that but for so long i mean so many of the the gripes or the consistent thing is just about like you're not gonna control me or make me think that this rather that, that, that, that. Rather than like, okay, more than that. Do you give a fuck about other people? I was just going to say on a basic level of manners, regardless of if you even fucking believe in science.
Starting point is 00:52:53 The idea of ever thinking that me not wearing a mask could harm someone else. Regardless if I cared about health or self-harm. Like if there's a possibility, that i could do that i'm wearing a mask i think i wonder too if because right i'm trying to put myself in that position because if i did that then for me to consider that i would have to then extrapolate situations in which i might harm another person which then might trigger thoughts about mortality which i'm not ready to engage in at all or there's a there's like this there's something deeply uncomfortable about having to think about something like that so it's easier to just be distant like just be like nope kill
Starting point is 00:53:35 switch engage fuck a mask freedom because it's actually this other shit again those what they call thought killing uh cliches basically i guess that's wild to think about it like that as like denying. But think about how people's minds work. You know what I mean? I mean, we have friends. Like we all have friends who will somehow they will completely avoid a specific topic of conversation no matter what. You're like, oh, OK. That was I look, I don't need to know. But I clearly that's not something you're like, Oh, okay. That was, I didn't look, I don't need
Starting point is 00:54:05 to know, but I clearly that's not something you're ready to talk about. And even though it's not a hot button issue, that's what it is. And I think for some, it's like that sort of same thing, like this idea of mortality or that responsibility to others is like real for whatever reason is frying a bunch of people's circuits. And they're just resorting to like, Nope, don't want to engage that. Don't even want to have a real discussion about that because it makes me so uncomfortable to even think about that that i'm just going to resort to this like personal freedom argument that has no like intellectual weight to it i think people have applied it um a whole like used it as a the placement for their anger i I've made it for another enemy.
Starting point is 00:54:46 You know, for me, I'm like, oh, you'll hold a door for someone, but you won't wear a mask. You know what I mean? It's like literally, it's all just, it spoils down to manners for me. You know?
Starting point is 00:55:00 No, it is. I mean, it's a broad cultural, like values problem. It's not that the people in the United States are inherently born more selfish. It's that the value set in the US and Europe, we wanted to get our lives back, so we acted as if the virus was under control. In Asia, they were not in denial. They understood they can have their lives back if they follow certain precautions. And yeah, I mean, that's kind of a very straightforward way of looking at it. Another issue that there is in this Wall Street journal article is that a lot of the spread in Western Europe has been linked to young people. Um,
Starting point is 00:55:49 and that I think gets at something that's probably at the core as well as like that makes Western countries and communities worse at dealing with this is the fact that other like Eastern countries actually value, uh, their elders and are more like whereas in the west it's like the antithesis it's the antithesis it's the you know they i mean that's that's seen in no country for old men when he goes and visits his dad and he's like just in a trash strewn heap with like flies all over the place because nobody like he's like once you're
Starting point is 00:56:25 no longer useful in america you just get kind of thrown to the curb like you're yeah like it's just all about usefulness to capitalism and then once you're old like we try not to think about you because it's you're bumming us out with you're bumming how old you are yeah and that's really sad because it goes back to wait because the the thing is rather than embracing the wisdom that comes with age right the u.s culture is about the the pursuit of escaping mortality to escape aging to escape these things to forever be in this mindset of like just man's fucking kid man just a youth like you know there was like this there's a book called like the death of the grown-up that sort of like maps this like huge sort of cultural swing away from like being
Starting point is 00:57:09 an adult uh like from and from like boomers and stuff because rock stars became big and everyone's like i want to be a fucking rock star and then like these parents who are like i'm more of a friend than a parent like it all kind of had this wave, right. Of like changing our, our, our viewpoints on what an adult even is. And especially in U S society. And yeah, we're looking at it now. And again, the idea of being safe, that someone could die mortality, fuck that. And also our, our youth culture is all based on like so much social media shit about being out doing shit not being at home not helping people uh your drip is so intense that the fucking you got to call a plumber you know like it's just it
Starting point is 00:57:51 it's emphasized all the things that when you go into this you're like of course that's the direction it went in because that's just like the residual momentum we were going and especially for uh our consumer culture but yeah for kids especially yeah um all right let's uh take a quick break now that we've figured out why uh figured out that we solved it solved it yeah also the texas story what we talked about on trending yesterday but uh that is another wild system wide failure of American, you know, government and society, uh, that is happening in slow motion.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Like they apparently knew this weather, this like freezing snap was coming and just nobody prepared anybody. It was just like, yeah, all right, well, that's going to suck. what a couple snowflakes.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Yeah. Uh, all right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about uh some bullshit mtv's official challenge podcast is back for another season that's right the challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season, y'all, and we are coming along for the ride. Woohoo! That would be me, Devin Simone. And then there's me, Davon Rogers. And we're here to take you behind the scenes of... Drumroll, please.
Starting point is 00:59:14 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Challenge 40 Battle of the Eras. Yes. Each week, cast members will be joining us to spill all of the tea on the relentless challenges, heartbreaking eliminations, and of course, all the juicy drama. And let's not forget about the hookups. Anyway, regardless of what era you're rooting for at home, everyone is welcome here on MTV's official challenge podcast.
Starting point is 00:59:37 So join us every week as we break down episodes of the Challenge 40 Battle of the Eras. Listen to MTV's official challenge podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds, Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists,
Starting point is 01:00:03 but the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. I mean, my reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful.
Starting point is 01:00:19 I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago
Starting point is 01:00:58 when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current, available now with new
Starting point is 01:01:37 episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. who inspire us. Like our recent episode with dancer, actor, host of Dancing with the Stars, and now novelist, Julianne Hough. I feel really whole. I feel like the last few years I've really unraveled a lot, which is part of what this book is about.
Starting point is 01:02:15 And I really feel so content, which is a word that used to scare the crap out of me. And I love that word now. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. and we're back and uh the gorilla glue challenge is happening y'all uh gorilla glue is the one like the one product if you could if you asked me to pick the one product that is not electrified can't like electrocute you to death that i would not want there to be a
Starting point is 01:03:05 challenge for gorilla glue would be number one is that on the heels of the uh the tessica case just because it's such a it's like such a powerful thing like the first time you use gorilla glue you're like oh my god this thing like you you really it's irrevocable once you use gorilla glue that shit is stuck man i've never used that's a good word for it like you can't take it back it's like a it's like a moment you can never come back you can never un-gorilla glue something my dad used it growing up and it was always like it kind of it's scary it kind of feels like you have a weapon in the house yeah um see now i'm like it's like activated the mischievous side of my brain i'm like really fucking it's like a weapon i mean obviously like hearing the stories was enough but it's clearly become like the new
Starting point is 01:03:59 tide pod of this year yes like thing that you shouldn't be fucking with outside of its intended use but somehow everybody want to fuck with gorilla glue now yeah and it's it's several levels past like a fun like you know crazy thing yeah it's just it's because all it is is like guaranteed injury everything we've seen is never like whoa whoa, close call with Gorilla Glue. This person almost, blah, blah, blah. It's like, no, this person glued themselves to a train and then they died. You know, like it's like, oh, God. So this guy, I think down in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, named Lenise Martin III.
Starting point is 01:04:39 He is a, I think, aspiring rapper. He put on his Instagram page and we'll do the gorilla glue challenge and i'm just gonna play because this guy he's convinced people are y'all y'all are fucking too much too much uh frantic energy around this gorilla glue stuff it's just glue y'all um and so he put this challenge out he wanted to create his own challenge, and let's take a little listen. So right now he's saying, I have a red Solo cup. I got a fucking new bottle of Gorilla Glue, and I'm going to show you. I'm going to put a little bit of Gorilla Glue inside of this red solo cup
Starting point is 01:05:27 I'm just looking right off cause it's glue y'all Gorilla Glue is garbage he says it's garbage he's telling you so he's gonna put so anyway he puts fucking glue on the cup and then the next slide is in his Instagram
Starting point is 01:05:44 post is him at the fucking hospital with a solo cup. Glue to his mouth. Fucking stuck to his lip. And he was like, I thought I could lick it off to moisten it and pull it right off. But that didn't work. How old is that man?
Starting point is 01:05:58 He's too damn old. He's got, I'm guessing he's my age probably at least. then yeah, they said it was, it was removed with a medical technique he described as quote painful peeling so yeah that was one of the things from the tesca like for people who haven't been uh listening our as we give a beat by beat updates of the Tesca Brown case. She got confused, I think more justifiably than a lot of people are giving her credit for because there are products called like,
Starting point is 01:06:34 can't believe it's not glue, hair product and Gorilla Snot. And so she thought Gorilla Glue was usable in her hair and it was just a solid mass until she was able to go to a plastic surgeon and get it uh softened via like some medic medical grade adhesive remover um so i one of the things that i learned from that is that gorilla glue is actually water activated it gets harder when it comes in contact with water i hope you guys are listening you freaks oh my god he said he goes on to say if um all of his painful peeling procedures don't go right he might have to have the tip of his lip surgically like removed blair uh has has opted out of this conversation there is what uh if you've ever been
Starting point is 01:07:33 at a football game and seen somebody knocked out and their arms are locked up what we call fencer's pose you have a fencer's pose reacting to that i again am so um sensitive when i think of other people in pain it like i can't handle it and to think i i know what gorilla glue is like and i just feel so bad for these people i don't want them to do it anymore especially when the girl i i didn't follow the case i kept seeing gorilla glue headlines so i didn't really know what happened until just now her not doing it on purpose makes it so much sadder to me yeah yeah yeah yeah and uh doctors are like modern day like miracle people like having to deal with someone who put gorilla who put gorilla glue there's no specialist
Starting point is 01:08:27 it's like okay you go renal issues with your kidney i know well let's take you to that person you got something wrong with your ear so hold on gorilla glue on your lip or your hair um and doctors can't can't also just be like no. They're like right in front of you. You know what I mean? Right. Emergency rooms should have a judge at the entrance. It's just like, nah, he's got to live with that cup on his mouth for the next three weeks. Hold on. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:08:55 What'd you say, sir? You put Gorilla Glue on a solo cup for an Instagram challenge? Okay. So the exit is right there. You can take your ass home with that dumb shit because we have people who are actually injured uh not for the gram i uh i do wonder how how what percentage we should have a er doctor on to tell us what percentage of injuries are for the gram uh yeah i bet there's a good handful of them. This one also hurts because I've had that, like,
Starting point is 01:09:26 with a lip stuck to something really cold, you know, and then. Dumb and dumber. Yeah, yeah, very dumb and dumber. And you, like, peel it off, and there's just, like, a raw patch underneath it for a while. That's very uncomfortable, and this is, like, that times 100. I mean, the fact that fact that dude surgery for the the tip of your lip i mean like that's where it's like i you feel bad because some people are so
Starting point is 01:09:51 stupid that now they're in this situation i'm not gonna be like oh well he didn't deserve that because he engaged in the act didn't act directly but it's like damn y'all come the fuck on i need to come clean about something right now oh you're stuck to your chair right now okay look when i was about probably nine years old and look i was only i was the youngest in my family only girl and i just would do anything to share air with my older brothers. Like, I just wanted to let me be around them. So this is about the time when they would go up to a metal sign on the street and kick the bottom and pretend to smash their face on it. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:42 To get the sound going. Yeah. Yep, yep. it right to get the sound going yeah yep yep and i wanted them to like me and i want and i went up and fucking headbutted the shit out of the sign and knocked myself out and got a concussion okay so i want to shit on these tiktok motherfuckers but i really can't and i don't have a place and so i'm just gonna sit this one out. Well, look, but that's how you learned, to march by the beat of your own drum. Yeah, and that's for sure.
Starting point is 01:11:14 I don't know how I still managed to stay wildly intelligent, but, I mean, look, we all have a past is what I want to say, and I forgive everyone. Love to you all. Best physics lesson I ever got was when I was six riding my bike and I just stuck a pretty hefty stick in the front spokes of my bike. And it just flipped over and I just ate complete shit. And it was just, I don't know what I was thinking like I knew something would happen but I didn't
Starting point is 01:11:48 realize like oh wow like there is a counter intuitive amount of force that like you can just get totally fucked by that's like when I try to eat dog food out of my dog bowl my dog's food wet or dry
Starting point is 01:12:03 dry food yeah I've done it bit the side of my dog bowl my dog's food yeah when they were eating dry they uh dry food yeah i've done it i've done it too bit the side of my fucking ear off basically and i was like what happened and my dad was like the fuck did you that's an animal eating and he just stuck your head in the bowl you got like chiseled by your dog yes yes and you have to go to the hospital no i wasn't like that bad. It wasn't like anything that needed stitches. It was just like enough that like, my father's laughter made my cries
Starting point is 01:12:31 more intense. You know what I mean? Cause like you're hurt. And they're like, what the fuck are you doing? I'm like, but you thought you could eat out of it. And I'm like, I thought you could eat out of it and i'm like i wanted you to like me i remember i headbutted the door at blockbuster and shattered the glass and then you got all mad at me there's something about the u.s and like the response to covid not to like try and tie
Starting point is 01:13:04 everything together but like the like well it can't be that bad like just lack of imagination of like what like what can't be that bad and then it gets really really bad and people are dying and then we're like well but you can't like imagine yeah other people i don't know it's uh because i really it's like fuck around find out it really thematically fits the united states except we don't find out right right we just keep fucking around and then hiding the consequences from everyone yeah while some people like the fucking wealthy people can fuck around and then everyone beneath them finds out exactly you know and then that's and then but the people who out exactly you know and then that's
Starting point is 01:13:45 and then but the people who do the fucking around never find out oh this is brilliant y'all i'm gonna put this on we need to put this on the in dc on a monument somewhere yeah they stick a spoke in the front wheel of their bike and somebody else's bike flips over like right or like i was sick or it's like they're they're like, they hit the spokes, but they're launched off the bike onto another bike seamlessly. And they're like, oh, that was pretty cool. While everybody who's in the baby seat in the back just like fucking head smashed into the concrete. Oh, man. What a visual.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Will Blair. Seamless. Oh, okay. That was nice uh corn dog anyone oh where did the kids go i guess for me then it's been such a pleasure having you as always uh where can people find you and follow you i love corn dogs so much um okay um god it was great to be back and happy valentine's day on um sunday also everyone um you can find me uh at blair sake b-l-a-i-r-s-o-c-c-i on twitter and instagram and i have a breathwork class I'm teaching because I got certified because I'm a mysterious ass bitch.
Starting point is 01:15:13 You got your MAB. Yeah. And so if you guys want to come to that, you can purchase tickets in my Instagram bio and it's on March 8th and i think it's gonna be a really bodacious time that'll be good for everyone what's breath work exactly forgive my ignorance no problem a lot of times i have to ask the take the role of asking layman's um questions about politics that's my role on this podcast um because i know that a lot of other listeners have the same
Starting point is 01:15:46 questions and i'm not afraid to ask them i'm not afraid i'm not i don't sing in front of people um you just did gotcha breathwork is a two-part active um breathing technique and um what's cool about it is like it's a very physical experience and instead of like trying to meditate in like a quiet room and like silence your thoughts because you're focusing so much on this very physical thing,
Starting point is 01:16:16 it bypasses your mind and you go straight into the stratosphere. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. I love the stratosphere. Terms and conditions do apply. Yeah, that's going to be cool. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:16:33 Yeah, I thought of my friend Robbie Slowick's tweet. He's so funny. He's a comedian friend of mine in New York. And his tweet was, Comics will be like, we're truth tellers, roving philosophers who speak truth to power. And also be like, catch me this weekend at the Looney Bin or next weekend at Op the Hook Comedy Club. It made me laugh really hard. Miles, where can people find you?
Starting point is 01:17:00 What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey. Also other podcasts for 20 day fiance if you watch 90 day fiance or married at first sight that's what we get down over there with that talk um a tweet that i like uh just a nice and easy one from reductress at reductress just a just this lady in a nice like knit scarf looking out of nice winter window saying i might be perfect on the outside but on the inside my socks are sliding down um which it's just so funny because i i had to throw socks away earlier this morning because i was like god we've reached it's the end baby
Starting point is 01:17:39 these things are now just like weird foot gloves that don't stay on i there is nothing i throw away more reluctantly than socks and underwear i will ride is there something you can is there an article of clothing you will discard immediately no problems no questions asked actually no okay it's all the same pace all clothes i pretty much hang on to i was just gonna say miles like i'm impressed by that uh discipline i'm this exact same way it makes me feel like extremely adult for some reason when i make the conscious choice to toss out a bad pair but i feel like it's easy because you just kind of forget and you you accept them as something that is just living with you interesting and um how many toxic relationships have you been in okay i'm just curious i don't know might be a microcosm don't know if you're doing the same
Starting point is 01:18:32 thing over and over you're saying this item is useless it's actually an inconvenience to me but i will i will compartmentalize quite literally put in another part of the drawer until it emerges again just for me to reenact the same cycle of behavior out and not advocating for myself i don't know that's been my time at miles of gray twitter and instagram thank you look honey many people have brought it to my attention but i'm happy to say i'm tossing them out left and right there you go toss out toss out those relationships like loose ass socks you're not gonna lose out on them you really not you're not there i'm telling you if that's me if that makes it easier for
Starting point is 01:19:09 someone listening right now a bad relationship is as good as useless that you don't need them and it might feel weird to throw it away because you're like oh it's a sock or relationship trust me you can get these things like 50 for two cents anyway, and you need space in your drawer for the new ones. Oh my God, I feel so exposed. Holy shit. Fuck it with you, you know? So much of my drawer space is socks that I haven't worn in 11 years. It's dumb.
Starting point is 01:19:37 It's bad. Or you do that, you ever do that thing you put the sock on and you know it's a wrap because the elastic just goes. Sorry. And you're still like. wrap because the elastic just goes... Sorry! And you're still like... Alver around here. A bunch of dust blows out from your ankle.
Starting point is 01:19:51 You're like, oh, I'm still not going to throw them away. Yeah, those will come in handy later, I'm sure. Tweet I've been enjoying is... I thought this was just going to be the brand Gorilla Glue getting in on the fun of the gorilla glue shit it's it is at gorilla glue that is the twitter handle and it says our quote our quote glue is made by jacking off a western lillian gorilla named esteban and it just it has their logo it says gorilla glue it's uh it's amazing that they got that and
Starting point is 01:20:28 are able to keep that's so funny um stupid and steven douglas tweeted if the cruella trailer doesn't feature a children's choir singing a haunting slowed down cover version of a certain Baja men song. What are we even doing here? You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes,
Starting point is 01:21:05 where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that Miles will recommend to you right now. Cause I'm loaded Don't know where to point this thing Okay, for all my Sade fans out there War of the Hearts It's a great track, but
Starting point is 01:21:21 that's what happens when people start remixing just that line. I'm loaded. This is called Sade Loaded, and you can't get this track on Spotify. You're going to have to go to SoundCloud and go to e-ternities page, because this track, if you like Sade, plus with a little bit of turn up, you're going to want to turn this one up. So take this one and start your week with it.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Or, I mean, not it started, but you know. Get through the hump. Get through the hump. Yes, Sade. I love Sade. All right. Well, the Daily Zeitgeist is a production. Just thinking about Sade.
Starting point is 01:22:01 My wedding song is Sade. Oh, really? I was just taken away. That's sweet. Which one? By Your Side? By Your Side, yeah. You think I'll leave your side, baby.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Oh, I mean, I wouldn't lie if I said Her Majesty and I are like, yo, that's not true. Uh-oh. But the Neptunes remix. I love that you call your girlfriend Her Majesty. That's incredible. I mean, the one and only. You know what I mean? On high.
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