The Daily Zeitgeist - Democrats: A Failed Center Right Party, Royal Guilty Pleasure 1.18.22

Episode Date: January 18, 2022

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rock that style like because i remember they had like some dudes who were you know seniors on the team who were i don't guessing they didn't like wear baggy shorts they were like big dorky or when they did it just looked so bad they're like i'm just gonna go back to them you know what i'm just gonna actually go back i don't have the calf definition of Jalen. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. When I find myself in times of trouble, I hear the words of Christopher Key speaking words of pistom.

Drink your pee. And in my hour of COVID he is ranting right in front of me, speaking words of wisdom. Drink your pee. Drink your pee. Drink your pee. Drink your pee of wisdom drink your pee drink your pee drink your pee drink your pee now drink your pee take it with a grain of salt but drink your pee that is courtesy of christy yamaguchi man and i am thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles. I'm healthy because I drank on pee.

Drank on pee. Drank pee, dog. Drank on pee. Omicron. Won't be messing with you. Okay, shout out to Randall Dixon Art for giving me the high road for that falsetto to land on. To the tune of Take On Me. Aha.

Drink some pee. Yeah. The pee drinking to take. The sound that you make when you drink your pee. Aha. Right on. The lip smack. I mean, anybody who's disappointed by our insistence on talking about this continually

had had the wrong idea about this show because that's i mean all we need is a news item to bring in excretions into the conversation come selling all of the above it's done well miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a comedian, producer, and Emmy-nominated writer who hosts the hilarious Los Angeles-based comedy show Funalingus. Please welcome the hilarious and talented Ellery Smith! Ellery! Thank you. Hi. Hi, hi. Welcome.

Thank you and hi. Thank you and hi. Wow. Well, you're welcome and hello. What's new? What's new, Ellery? What's the vibes? Not too much. Just hanging.

You know, there's sort of a COVID slump in L.A. right now. So not too much stand up going on. Yeah. Yeah. You know. Is there like a barometer for L.A. stand up where you're kind of like, OK, if this show's going on, we're good. Or if this show's off, then that's a good indication. Or it's kind of like everything.

It's so hard to tell now. It really is sort of every man for itself whereas like before there was a little more sort of like guidance and now that there's no guidance and the government is just like you can google a test basically it's whatever you feel comfortable with right right gotcha so not because i'm not preferred right i saw like people, some being like, yeah, I'll be at this indoor place. And I'm like, yeah, I'm doing outdoor stuff right now. Right. But if it's too, I don't know. I've also canceled some outdoor stuff.

It's really weird. I'm hoping by February, things might be a little bit more back to normal. Yeah. Whatever. And by normal, we mean just a familiar version of hell. Exactly. Right. Exactly.

I do like COVID. Yeah. I saw this tweet that was like i had no idea comedy was going to turn into a seasonal sport right and i've been thinking about that a lot oh yeah come that's that's spring that's a spring sport yeah yeah it's it will be like a summer sport right for sure it sucks it sucks yeah and the solution seems so simple yet like like you're saying we're being being told, oh, Google ever Like the free COVID test at first, the messaging was like, if you have insurance,

you can get reimbursed through your insurance. And it's like, what about the- If you have insurance. If you have insurance, what about the millions of like frontline workers who do not have insurance? Should have worked harder. Yeah.

That really is sort of like the subtext there. Yep. Or just kind of not even sub, it's almost like- It's text. You know, even when they're like, it's unfortunate some of those people are going to get burnt out. It's like, wow, how the pendulum swung all the way the other way. It's like, yeah, we went from we thank our essential workers to like Ivan Drago.

What do you say? If he dies, he dies. Yeah. That was a little on the nose. I'm going to say in retrospect, probably not what he would have said at that moment as a professional athlete. But it is what our president's saying to us now. Just needed another 40 years of history. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We are going to talk about just the complete, utter fuckery of the government and its inability to distribute COVID tests. Just do anything, really. So we'll talk about just the administration in general, how they're doing on health care things.

First, we're going to talk about the Oath Keepers. We are going to talk about the Scream franchise. It's back. We're going to talk about the Oath Keepers. We are going to talk about the Scream franchise. It's back. We're going to talk about Guilty Pleasures. The Queen revealed her guilty pleasure, and it sucks. It's not a good guilty pleasure, so I just want to talk about that phenomenon of people whose

guilty pleasures are things that I would be proud of and tell people that I had done. Maybe we can talk about our own guilty pleasures all of that plenty more but first ellery we do like to ask our guests what is something from your search history this week i i was looking up the waffle house index oh which is like the informal fema scale that says if a lot it like basically uses waffle houses being opened or closed to help determine how much aid might be needed in a space after a natural disaster

yeah because like waffle houses don't close unless it's serious right unless everything's unless the house will literally blow away and yeah exactly exactly so the wikipedia article goes into like waffle houses after hurricane katrina and that's when so the wikipedia article goes into like waffle houses after hurricane katrina and that's when like the fema it's really informal it's just like whatever right yeah but they just take a look and see how many yellow signs are lit up yes we're good over here we can yeah someone like referenced the thing it's like oh my waffle house went take out only they're like that's how i least that's what got me on it, is that tweet. That was like, yeah, Waffle House is takeout only.

You know it's bad again. Right. And I remembered reading about the Waffle House index years ago. So I was just like, boop, boop, boop, Wikipedia. Mm-hmm. Damn. Yeah, that's not good. Yeah.

In LA, just Waffle Houses are like, I guess we have to take this one seriously. What's the LA version? We were like, I guess we have to take this one seriously. What's the L.A. version? We were like, oh, man, Creation Juicery is closed. Shakey's Pizza. Oh, yeah. Shakey's Pizza would be. Although I feel like Shakey's Pizza is usually closed somehow.

Yeah. Yeah. Or at least they appear to be closed. It's not apparent from the outside. Yeah. It's not apparent from the outside if they're open, closed or in the of an armed robbery that's what yeah that's what i love about a shaky's the lights are off or whatever i think they're closed on a friday night but then you open it it's a full party in there you're like oh shit okay i drove by somebody literally at 10 a.m eating in a shaky's pizza and i was just like my man knows what he wants you should have stopped

and painted it would have been the new version of he wants. You should have stopped him painting it. It would have been the new version of Nighthawks. It was pretty gorgeous. It was sort of like accidental renaissance painting. The light was like falling onto his face. Yeah. Oh, man. A fucking new Nighthawks.

A fucking Shakey's. Shakey's regional, right? Like Shakey's doesn't exist elsewhere I thought it was also in Colorado Okay maybe because isn't there like a South Park Episode where they go maybe Yeah it was I think I mean I know it's in Japan

They have Shakey's in Japan Really yeah Because I was like I know No they were affected by Post war occupation Yeah right but yeah i always heard people talk shit talk shit about shaky's pizza on podcast before i lived out here and then when i came out and got to see it with my own eyes i was like wow this place is even shittier than i could have possibly imagined it makes uh fucking ch. Cheese look like the Ritz.

Yeah. Well, yeah, but it's they scaled back because now they're only in California, Washington, I think, in the U.S. Also, not to stand on Jamie's corner too much, but Chuck E. Cheese, pretty fucking great. During the pandemic, Jamie famously had a birthday party there pre-pandemic. But during the pandemic, they were operating as like a regular restaurant so that people would keep buying the food. So like you could go on to Postmates and it would be like Chester's Italian. And it was actually Chuck E. Cheese trying to sell like whatever the chicken burgers were out there. Chester's Italian.

Yeah. I went to a birthday party there for a child. And it was before they just had it before it opened to the public. And it was like in a downtime for COVID. And it was awesome. It was really, really good. And the pizza is called Pasquale's pizza. What is what's something you think is overrated ellery i think the holidays are overrated okay and what oh you mean like the year-end holiday like those the not all holidays some holidays are cool 420 rips but like christmas i think is over yeah i would say like winter holidays are overrated okay like what's what

about it well my birthday is in december first of all so that's a lot of competition and then it's also like a lot of pressure to sort of be happy have a good time it sucks being cold being around your family i mean i'm sure some people like being around their family but i think for most of us as adults it can be stressful or worse like really triggering triggering. And then also traveling. I hate traveling is like not a vacation. It's very stressful. And then having to stay with like family members for a week. Right. Yeah. Or turning like what used to be a quick flight into like an eight hour car rides to be safe. And I'm like, no, no, no. I don't like to be in a car this long. Like I know it's easy, but I just can't.

I'm not built for the long road trips. Well, you're a tall guy, too. Thank you so much. Yes. And don't even get me started on the back pain. I'm trying to drive a tiny little car. Yeah, I think my new beat is going to be trains. I want to start taking the train places instead of flying.

Because I just am, like, fucking so done with flying. I feel like, especially after the pandemic, things have gotten so weird at airports and on airplanes. And like people are not in their best, you know, mind space. Yo, did I tell you about the JetBlue flight I was on over coming back from New York after the Thanksgiving break? No. This, man, it was the most chaotic scene on a flight. I didn't like something was happening that we are all like what's going on like we constantly saw like the flight crew like huddling

up and then this woman like someone was talking to the flight crew then this woman came down the aisle without a mask and the flight was like miss you have to put your mask back on and she was just like waving them off like i don't give sovereign citizen get the fuck out my way and just went into the bathroom and then everyone was like like she was holding up the takeoff because she was in the bathroom and they're like i think this anti-masker is trying to hold the flight up by like basically staying in the bathroom and it turned out to be like this woman was just like in another like health situation but like the tension on the flight became so palpable yeah like it was an anti-mask because someone was like doing the bathroom it was and ended up being a woman who was like stumped like

was legit just having a stump yeah and it's shitting but yeah that tension like it does feel like at any moment everyone's like on a plane being like about to pop off yeah it was also just like the being trapped there there was a woman who was kicked off my flight um maybe like just before thanksgiving i was going somewhere because she wouldn't stop texting and then the flight attendant was like turn off your phone and she was like you're being so weird that's what she told the flight attendant and she ended up getting kicked off and it was so weak it was so strange that's so weird that was so weird i was so weird

i was like ma'am you're the one being really weird actually the rest of us are being totally normal right but also i do i know a flight attendant and i i feel like they have a quicker trigger right now like not he's he's told me this it's not like i'm like he's a real asshole right now he's been like yeah like we're not having it right now so like don't yeah yeah and that's totally understandable and anybody who's flying should like be going in with the mindset of these poor people just like do anything to brighten their day and lighten their load because it's fucking terrible yeah absolutely i'm like giving like the flight attendants molly i'm like hey man when you get to your hotel man just do this molly me me hitting my weed pen for the whole flight being like ma'am would you like some

it's indica so it'll get you in your head right yeah i love the i love the mean girl tactic of that woman on your flight ellery who's like as if she's talking to another girl in high school she literally talked to the flight attendant. Like, she was like, you're being so weird. Like, that's so embarrassing for you. And this lady was like, what? No, this is a FAA regulation. Literally, she's like, we have a gun on board.

I don't know. Like, I don't know. It seems like everyone was right. Because, you know, like, nobody likes you. Yeah, she was definitely trying to gaslight the flight attendant. I don't know. Like, I don't know. It seems like everyone was right. Cause you know, like nobody likes you. Yeah. She was definitely trying to gaslight the flight attendant and to be like, I do this all the time. It's not that big of a deal. Right.

Yeah. Oh my God. You need to come harder than that. Were her parents with her being like, just let her text. Just let her text. Yeah. She does this all the time. It's just easier if you don't say anything.

Yeah. What is something you think is underrated? This is also sort of related to the holidays, but I've been thinking a lot about the USPS. And, like, I'm seeing a lot of sort of not venomous anger, but a lot of anger just about, like, shipping delays and, like, holiday gifts not arriving in time. And I feel like the usps needs our understanding and support and they're underrated and they're like the last great american institution yeah yeah they're they're like they've overtaken firefighters that i'm like i'll fuck with them heavy yeah and also fire department started as private

like enterprises for citizens who could pay and And the USPS was always for everybody. Yeah. Yeah. It's a miracle that they exist, but they've existed for so long that people are just like, yeah, whatever. Republicans have spent the better part of legitimately 50 years trying to make it impossible, like just defund them and make sure that they can't work so that eventually they can privatize it all. Yeah. Right. Like the whole lewis to joy situation yeah yeah i mean that totally worked on me when i was a kid and like i feel like the whole narrative was like capitalism is the only thing that works look at the post office the line is so long yeah try and like do anything with like a government assistance and it's like yeah, like, you have intentionally defunded them to the point that. So that they can't operate.

Yeah, so they can't operate. And then they still manage to exist and, like, do a fine job. Yeah. And the same is true of the DMV, too. Right. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's, yeah, because I also look at, too, like, there's, like, it's doubly cruel, too, because a lot of veterans work for the Postal Service. Yes. So it's like, yeah, man, there's, like, it's doubly cruel, too, because a lot of veterans work for the Postal Service. Yes.

So it's like, yeah, man, we may have fucked you over when we deployed you. And, hey, we're going to also make this job a lot harder for you, too. Horrible. Because we love the troops. Yeah. And all the people who help Americans just do their daily business. Also, one of the last jobs that you can go and get a retirement and pension that doesn't have to do with state violence, like, the military isn't a cop it's like one of the last jobs you can get that's like unionized yeah that's pretty fucking cool glad we have a new list of joya still he's still running he's

still there yeah he's still there right speaking of biden's just like not doing shit like this. How is that motherfucker still there? He was hired to like cheat to make it. So you lost the election for what are you doing? Yeah. Well, I think the other part is that it's hard is like there's a there's like a board of people that decide, you know, whether he's there. And like they have to completely remake the like the the makeup of this board for the postal service to get the votes to oust the joy so it's a very like it's a very kind of complicated thing or not complicated if you're the president you actually you know exert your will as president to make things happen but that's another time i'd make it happen miles okay that's all i'm saying it would be easy okay executive privilege you're being weird

telling me how things work right annoying yeah because i mean it's just it he the thing is the way by when i have to do it is he has to get what it's the board of governors the usps board of governors he'd have to be like you're fucking out and that i think they're like it's gonna look political it's like well they put in a fucking saboteur in there right for political reasons yeah yeah i mean that's like such a good i guess example of why that stuff is so hard because it him undoing it is is political but it was politically done in the first place so there's no way to undo it without being like well like that's an agenda right it's there it's so frustrating that yeah it's it will look political that is the game that you're

playing that and the other side while they will criticize you for like looking political it's just because they know that works but they are like proudly openly the worst about it like just aggressively it's just so strange that well it's just like the two parties are playing by completely different rules and like at this point it's really only hurting the democrats yeah yeah and it's just it's been a lot to take in lately yeah because it's again like even to get people on the board it needs senate confirmation you know there's like every single thing and then yeah back to the joy i mean let's not forget the amount of like stock he holds in like a direct competitor

to the yeah he like basically owns part of fedex or whatever yeah it's something like xpo logistics or some shit but yeah that's you know it's like so fucking it's i mean it's so american really to be honest it's like oh yeah the guy who's working there will benefit from its collapse which is like what i've been thinking a lot about also lately is like is there any way to like and i think the answer is no but like is there any way to sort of like unsuture or unwind like america from capitalism because it's so ingrained in everything even in like our art yeah and it's like how do how do we move like not just away but forward yeah yeah it's uh it's a question many people have asked about but you know it's funny there was like that

one tweet where they're you know they're talking about how, you know, the CDC had changed like COVID quarantine guidelines to shorten it because they said 10 days. I'm like, that could grind that they bring the U.S. economy to a halt. Oh, yeah. And someone tweeted like, well, it stands to reason a general strike for about 10 days might have them on their knees. Capitalism is really showing its hand accidentally. But I think that's the it's the organizational part. And also giving people the imagination part. I think it's,

it's always the hardest bit because yeah, letting people know that they can. And then also making sure, because 10 days is not that long of a time, but it also, it is. So like, no matter what you need to make sure that there are mutual aid sort of

organizations in place that can support people who can't take 10 days off. Right. You know what I mean? Exactly. I can't believe the name of the company is xpo logistics that's like that that's like the name of fedex in the robocop universe like verhoeven would it's the evil fake logistics yeah it's like the evil version of fedex anyways let's take a quick break and then we'll come back and talk about other shit.

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Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Oath Keepers are a thing. I think I had heard that name a number of times around January 6th last year. But the government has finally charged them.

Yeah. If you're unfamiliar, they're the merry band of chuds that take their constitutional oath to protect the country from enemies both foreign and domestic. Seriously. But they mostly stress the domestic part. to protect the country from enemies both foreign and domestic? Seriously? But they mostly stressed the domestic part, and that's why they've convinced themselves that right-wing terror is actually a positive force in this country. But, you know, they were pretty stoked at overthrowing the government on Jan 6th, and you may have remembered those clips, you know,

that were pretty deeply unsettling if you got really into, like, watching a lot of january 6 videos of you'd see like a group of uniformed guys in tactical gear marching in a stack like sort of one behind the other with a hand on their shoulder going up the capital steps moving in a very coordinated way and you're like uh there seem to be really coordinated like paramilitary elements to this not just you know the people who are you know there for a peaceful protest or whatever you want to say or maybe you remember that there was a group of them this is another story from january 6th that had a cache of weapons that were being readied just outside of dc in the event that it was time for bang bangs and

mass death that they were going to just drive in a bunch of weapons to the rest of the oath keepers to take the the insurrection to the next level well the doj came knock in last week for 11 members including their their their leader and charged them with seditious conspiracy to quote oppose by force the lawful transfer of presidential power unfortunately they had you know all of their signal messages uh were basically handed over to the feds and it made the case pretty easy since they were being really clear about what the intent was and what people were doing didn't they copy and paste that text that makes it so that nobody can use any of the words you're using on social media they did i do not agree i do not consent to my consent yeah wow their their their leader even did this dumb shit where he's like, he would write in cursive very specific plans that he didn't want to type out and then upload a picture because he said, if it's in cursive, like the text scanning analysis software, like won't be able to pick up what we're saying.

But asshole, what you've done is just created evidence in your fucking handwriting. In your handwriting. Like, it would have been easier to be like, ah, some asshole got a hold of my phone and was using Signal like a jerk. You're like, no, man. You're giving us a lot of forensic evidence here to say that you were very much a part of this and planning it. Also, who still knows how to write in cursive? I guess maybe some people. He learned it just for this.

Yale law graduates? Yeah. Oh, oh. Don't, was it last year? Or like when the enrollment signups for, I think it was maybe Oath Keepers or Three Percenters and a bunch of people had signed up with their government emails. Oh, really? Do you remember?

It was like five cops who signed up with like.gov emails. Yeah. Good for them. People are pointing out the Yale law grad, the leader who has an eye patch, but otherwise looks exactly like you would expect them to look. He's a Yale Lograt, which is becoming less and less surprising at this point. Oh, I don't think that's surprising at all. It's very much like skull and crossbones behavior. Yeah. It's Brett Kavanaugh, Clarence Thomas. that's surprising at all yeah we have like very much like skull and crossbones behavior yeah it's

brett kavanaugh clarence thomas too many war criminals went to yale law i know it's they're really are they like the federalist society are they do they how do what's the feeling in yale law they're supposed to be i guess the best law school in the country but if you think about institutions like that, they basically all are like born through white supremacy. Right. Like anything that ancient in this country is going to have a serious, you know, reckoning with their behavior during those years and like what it means for students to even go through and graduate those programs and like who created the programs to begin with. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

I mean, like all those sort of like, like Kennedy School of Government. Or Harvard Business School or Yale Law School. They're all like earth fucker finishing school. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like, yeah, now go on and fuck the earth over. Be well and come back with many, many dollars you will not share.

Sackler School of Medicine. Right. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about how people are finding COVID tests, because at the end of last week, Joe Biden had some suggestions for it was actually kind of a pretty profound idea. He had apparently just found out about Google. And as people were complaining about not being able to find tests anywhere, he suggested they Google it. So nailed it. Nailed it, Joe. Well done, sir. Go take a nap.

But there are also... Oh, no, that was Kamala, right? Yeah, I think they beached... And I think also Jen said it. I think the three of them in different ways. Oh, okay. I think everybody, that's like the... A triumvirate. Yeah, I think that's like the PR. They came together.

It's so fucking rude to be like Google is free. Yeah. And condescending. Yeah. Really? What is this? Also not free. Also not free.

Also not everybody has Internet access. And also this is exactly what's wrong with the entire worldview that they like the whole reason this is never going to work their whole thing is because they are still like multi-trillion dollar companies are going to save us all but we can win by working with them like during the pandemic when things were not as bad we saw tests be destroyed because it was like to have an overstock meant that the price would go down. And so it was bad for companies. So private companies destroyed a ton of tests that we now need. Right. Yeah. Hey,

but now they're making money. And yeah, the, the, the tone of it is like, do Google again shows like they think the other, the rest of Americans are at the same like socioeconomic education bracket as like their staff.

Right. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Just do Google. Okay. Like that's, that's a directive you, I could hear someone who's like their staff right you know what i mean like i don't know just do google okay like that's that's a directive you i could hear someone who's like a staffer again rather than working people who have no internet access or you know or don't have time to like click 8 000 links and find which ones work and which ones don't and which ones are close

right and which ones are bunk it's yes It really seems to me like their understanding of Google, like they're actually, the people who are making this decision to make this an official recommendation are people who have only seen search engines used in movies where like you just type in a thing and there's one answer. And it's the first hit.

Yeah, and it's just like, there it is. Minority report. And there's no like SEO ads. Yeah, there's no SEO. It's not buried under like 800 ads and like people who are like burying the good results because it's more profitable to them to get their fucking search results higher it's such a dumb but like like 1996 clintonian understanding of like well you know the best this massive company is going to do the best job and because of the profit principle we're good we're it seems to me that a lot of us are fundally

miss fundamentally misunderstanding like what a government is for like if this is not what a government is for what are they for like if nothing else like what does it exist for why are we all paying taxes what are we like obeying the structure for? Yeah. It's a revolving door for defense and pharmaceutical companies. That is exactly it. I'm like pissed off about it because it's like, okay, so I'm, I'm funding,

right. Some like airstrikes for some, you know, civilian wedding. And I can't get a COVID test in fucking England who has phone problems. They get, you know, whatever,

20 free tests a month. Yeah. You're actually funding the production of movies like, let's see, Zero Dark Thirty and Transformers 2. Let's not forget the hand that the CIA played in making that film. Or the money and access the DOD gave to people to make Transformers. That's also coming, like, out of our fucking tax dollars. So, yeah, there is a lot this whole thing is it does feel perverse and i think because of the years that have gone by people

aren't have completely lost sort of track like because i remember even too like civics class in high school that really gave me no fundamental understanding of like what the relationship was between government and what it needs to do for me it was more like can you name the branches of the government do you know what the state legislature is? Okay, bye. Yeah. Well, they sort of have a vested interest in you not knowing.

Damn. I did join the Marines after watching Transformers and I was so disappointed, you guys. It did not, it was not what I expected. I was not what they were hoping for either. So it was pretty, it was over pretty quickly. You're like, when do I meet Bumblebee?

What the fuck is this, dude? You told me Megan Fox isn't here. Yeah. Right. in quotes, but it's basically to get private insurers to cover the cost of eight at-home coronavirus tests per member per month, which would be great if everyone had insurance and if we could find take-home tests. Yeah, I could buy three PS5s before I could get three COVID tests. So people are actually using the PS5

like when PS5s were incredibly hard to find. Still, still, still. In those long ago days when PS5s were hard to find, people, you know, have been creating networks and programs to help find them and like platforms and just social media accounts that like let you know okay this is where they have them and now those are being converted or expanded to let you know

where tests are which is wild right that we're we took something that was a way to help like aggregate and give disseminate information around the availability of a gaming console that was sought after and we've now we're now swapping that out for critical medical infrastructure there's this uh onion like kind of ripoff site hard drive that you know not real i don't know i've never heard of it before today so i don't know they might be fucking brilliantly talented but they do the same thing as the onion do fake headlines and they did a fake headline u.s government reaches agreement with wario 64 to announce covid vaccine availability because wario 64 was somebody who like let you know where consoles were and then like days later that account started tweeting available vaccine appointments right that's it's that's also just such a good

summary of where we are that like you know the overlap between absurdity and satire and just reality at this point it's well and it's and it's it's come to a place that it's become so predictable that the logic of humorists and writers is basically they're like, what's next thing you know, it's going to be this. And you're like, no, you're right. It is predictable. That is what's happening. And the next thing will be that people are, you know, who knows what the next thing will be. It's like, I don't know, man, can you find food? Check out, check it out in the Wario 64 Twitter account. I mean, it's on one hand, obviously very dystopian.

But on the other hand, I think it's a really good example of like the ways that we can keep ourselves safe. And the ways that like, obviously, huge governmental failure. So disappointing. Wish it wasn't like that. But it's wonderful to see like things born out of necessity like that. And also to know that we can build those networks. And like, obviously, we can build those networks and like. Without the government.

We shouldn't have to. Yeah. But a lot of this will, will fall to us and has been falling to us. Not even like, this is not a new, think about like the community fridge program. Like this is not a new concept by any, by any stretch of the imagination.

It's just the pandemic has laid bare, you know, so many of the continuation of like the natural radicalization process that's occurring in every industry too because people normally like are they fucking serious like they're trying to fucking kill me right with this shit nah fuck that and suddenly it's like you know like viva la revolucion but it's like the students are walking out of high schools because students like i'm not going in a classroom the teacher's like we're not going in a classroom i saw the chicago stuff today yeah yeah good for them that's great and also i guess the students that walked out are asking for an apology to teachers and the teachers union

yeah it's but again like we're making we're the the responsibility for people to like take action is now falling in the weirdest places like and it's not they're making activists out of so many people so maybe that could be a long-term benefit in terms of people really seeing the bullshit that you know these systems actually are but you know we'll see we'll see yeah i mean so the other way that that the Biden administration is turning towards private mega corporations, in addition to like working only with private insurance companies, they end suggesting we use Google. They're actually working with Google to help people access tests. It's unclear how they're planning to do that. But it's extra frustrating because Google is one of many, like, massive corporations that are hoarding rapid tests.

Reportedly, Google employees can receive as many as 20 tests per month. And Google staff are literally using their free tests on their children so they can go to daycare because daycare is not a multibillion-dollar software company. And, you know know they have no tests so right but yeah it's just you know massive corporations are are the ones that can afford stuff and they're becoming the only ones that can afford stuff or have access to stuff yeah i'm really what would love to hear what these ideation sessions sound like when they're they're they're they're doing this balancing act like how are we going to get these tests to people we got to get more tests is there just one guy like vaping in the back who's like dude call fucking google man i'm like they'll figure it out yeah there's a google lobbyist in the room who's like i think we can

work something out if you guys mention us enough yeah exactly exactly and it's also it's like we have so much money for other things and there's never any discussion about where that money is going to come from this is a point that's been made over and over again but like our country does have so much we have like you know raised how much money we give the idf every year for the last 10 years but there's no money for covet tests so it's just like what are our priorities here yeah the priorities are profit every time always over everything even if it's in like, what are our priorities here? Yeah. The priorities are profit every time. Always.

Over everything. Even if it's in the long run more expensive. And then that also goes back to the idea that it's like, I think a lot of us don't understand. I think everybody in America thinks the government is a business. And that the government exists to make money. And it's like services don't need to make money. They're services. They're services is why they exist.

The debt ceiling, Ellery. How are they going to deal with the debt ceiling? Call me. I don't give a shit about the debt ceiling. Exactly. What the fuck are you guys even talking about? Michael Bay is making a January 6th film that we need to help co-produce. You know?

I thought that was real for two songs. I know. I thought you were just giving us a news break. Me too. Me too. No, no. Yeah. But again, No, no. Yeah. But again, the absurdity becomes reality.

So buckle up. You know what I mean? It's hard to tell. Yeah. Your dramatization of the guy in the back of the room vaping and being like, call Google, like really drove home. Because that is, you know, all the people who work at Google are, you know, went to some Ivy school with the kids who are working in the Biden administration. And like that's it's yeah, it does feel like it kind of goes back to that whole just what a fucked place like all these Ivy League schools are. I mean, I'm not a fucking logistics expert, but just from my, you know, civilian view,

it's like, I know, you know, post offices seem like localized distribution centers. Yeah. And we seem to be getting, I don't know how y'all do it, but everybody gets the same fucking Bed, Bath & Beyond ad. Right.

Maybe holler at them. Maybe start there. And you can say, yeah, we know, we have, we have every residence mapped out as a post office. Right. Maybe holler at them. Maybe start there. And you can say, yeah, we know we have what we have. Every resident residents mapped out as a post office. Right. We can we can do that. But, you know, I get it. It's profit. And Google, folks, Google. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions.

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Wait, what did this happen this week? I don't know when it happened, Miles. I don't know. I'm like, is this a perfectly timed Prince Andrew smoke bomb? Right. Very easily could be. I think just generally they've been aware that they have they have a perception problem. I think just generally they've been aware that they have a perception problem.

Although, didn't I read somewhere that like, I'm asking you guys, didn't I read somewhere that they watch The Crown? Like they watch every episode of The Crown? Oh, I think I've actually heard that also. I think Meghan Markle said that. That's wild. But anyways, I do think they know they have a perception problem because one of the princes is a fucking massive pedophile and the other one is an insufferable prick and was revealed to be a racist against his own grandchild or own grandson. So they're, you know, trying to be the fun royals every once in a while. So they let Darren O'Grady, who served as the queen's personal chef for 15 years, reveal some of her food preferences. So one thing he says is that the queen tried to avoid fast food at all costs.

No shit. The royal family, weren't they franchisees of McDonald's? Probably. Oh, really? But only in the way that some money, some money manager, like... Right, right, right. It's part of their portfolio. Yeah. But he labeled... Something he labeled her guilty pleasure was

a bunless venison burger, freshly shot, might I add, stuffed with beautiful, likely freshly picked cranberries. That is so Hannibal Lecter. Freshly shot is such a fucking... It's like very King Leopold's ghost. It reminds me of colonization.

I'm like, you are violent family. Yeah. Just if you could capture some of the last dying breaths of the deer in a little basket and put it next to it as a garnish. I would love to just inhale that. Yeah. Right. It sounds like some like new, like level of, uh,

like gastronomic science where, you know, like El Bully was like, and this is a pea shoot foam. And they're like, we've created a wonderful, uh, foam based off of the soul escaping.

This is Bambi's essence. Right. Yeah. the soul escaping the body. This is Bambi's essence? Right. Yeah. These are the tears of the baby deer that watched us shoot the mom. The mom.

It was great. Created a sea of And we tried that. That's actually, we used that to make the salt on these chips that you are now eating. But yeah,

so she eats that. If I ate that, I would be like, okay, I ate my health food for the week. She ate that and is like, you would be like, okay, I ate my health food for the week. She ate that and is like, you are so bad, girl. She's like looking in the mirror.

She's like, oh my goodness. A moment on the lips forever on the lips. She's like, come on, Elizabeth. Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels. Let's go. This reminds me of this Mark McGuire interview that I remember from when I was a child and he was like chasing the home run title that year and everyone was obsessed with him. And I had this very specific moment where he was being interviewed on like SportsCenter and they were like, what's your guilty pleasure? What's your guilty pleasure?

And he was like, and like with a like wry smile on his face, like, man, I am about to reveal something to you guys. He said he likes to have a great workout in the morning, then have a cup of Starbucks coffee and a plain donut. And he emphasized a plain donut like repeatedly. And I was like, I fucking hate this guy. I immediately turned on him i wanted him to fail like from that moment forward yeah just the the idea of somebody not even being able to admit to a guilty pleasure or alternately not even having a guilty pleasure that is worth like talking about is or creates common ground. Yeah.

Yeah. So fucking depressing. Who's ever eaten? Who's ever even had a burger stuffed with cranberries? Like just from there. You must try. Also the bun list. I'm like, you're whatever,

95 years old. Why not just go for it? Like, who are we staying in shape for? It's such like sort of a soulless experience. Like you have such a limited time enjoy every meal that you have left right right yeah i want to i want her to be like man i'll eat like 14 pounds of crawfish yes exactly i want her to be like i will have five

beers and then a marshmallow and i'll go to bed every night every night that's what keeps me healthy and young yeah i look i look at a map a historical map of the british empire down three mickeys and eat five marshmallows i'm good yeah like that's the greats like michael jordan used to like drink a case of beer on the golf course eat an entire pepperoni pizza drink a scotch smoke a cigar and then go out and like hang 45 on the knicks and like oh my god that feels like that gives me a tummy ache to think about oh disgusting but his body was just like a machine yeah it's sort of like somehow yeah when i was in high school on i was on the

cross-country team and in college too and sometimes the team would get like really big burritos before we would go to practice and at least two girls would always throw up because it just like, wasn't enough time to digest food, but we were kids and we didn't understand that. Right. You like got to load up. We got to run four miles in 15 minutes. Exactly. Exactly. We would eat like huge burritos and then go run 10 miles and somebody would always get so sick oh wait you said somehow i was on the cross-country team what do you mean like you you never wanted to and you or you ended up having a knack for it oh no at my high school we had to be on a sports team oh so you just picked whichever one seemed the easiest damn cross-country would not like run long i'd be like it's like

soccer field hockey where you have to talk to people that's why i did cross country i did cross country too exactly it's sort of a learner's sport yeah well that makes sense yeah because like our like i remember my high school like our like star cross country person talked to no one and was like really smart like went to like you know really good school after but it it was like, dude, John, he's, he's a machine out there that no one knows anything about. Also,

you get to be in nature. Like the meats are like, it is really nice. Yeah. Yeah. I would highly recommend that as like a sport. If you don't already have a dude, not LA,

not LA. Yo, run down fucking Ventura to Woodman. Right. Yo, what? I do see the high school teams and I'm like, that's brutal. That isman. Right. Yo, what? I do see high school teams and I'm like, that's brutal.

That is brutal. Yeah. I mean, that's, yeah, that's cross county. I always want to roll down my window and boo. Yeah. You guys suck. I'm just looking at the time, man.

This ain't a PR in case you're wondering. What about you guys? I guess, yeah, the guilty pleasures guys I guess yeah the guilty pleasures do you have any guilty pleasures that you feel arise to the thing of like holy shit okay that's it I mean Mountain Dew is mine that I think people like it doesn't really qualify as a guilty pleasure in some parts of the country but in Los Angeles people like what the fuck? But yeah, I'll, you know, or house an entire Domino's pizza or, you know, a pint of ice cream, any of the above. The concept maybe just seems, I think I've just, I've accepted all the shit that I can assume. Yeah, the concept seems sort of faulty.

Right, right, right. Like, cause like, I mean, and you drinking Mountain Dew, I'm like, that's just you, Jack. You contain multitudes. I will say, I worked at a bakery for a while and we used to use Mountain Dew to clean the ovens because it was so corrosive. Something to think about. That makes me want to do it more.

I guess maybe my weed smoking is a guilty pleasure, but even then, I don't know. That's just what I do. Life is hard. You know what I mean? even then like i got my shit together like i didn't you know i've been smoking weed for a minute i didn't fuck up my grades or my ability to you know abide by societal norms okay you guys what's the thing you like to do that makes you like yourself less that's really funny saying i'm a podcaster yeah right

i feel like a guilty pleasure is like something that brings the wrong people money that you like to do anyway like maybe go to chick-fil-a or like i really like the real housewives franchise even though it's evil and they give women like alcoholism but you know i'm only human they have money they have money kind of offsets it yeah what is mine yeah probably sneakers yeah you know yeah yeah you know we multinational uh apparel companies are far from uh the do-gooders on this planet but there is something where the sneakers call to me but you know definitely like I think less than it was normally. I think as I just get older, I'm like, I just want to, like, experience shit kind of over, like, pulling up in, like, the freshest sneakers all the time. That used to kind of be my whole shit, like, in my 20s.

Or, like, killing an old person. That's sort of a guilty pleasure. Right. Although some old people, fair game. Right yeah yeah yeah but like the good ones who still are like have some fight in them you know yeah yeah that is both more pleasurable and also makes you feel a little bit yeah you're besting them getting a workout all right let's talk about uh the scream franchise they're back baby i haven't watched any Scream movies since Scream 2.

I don't think. No shit. This is Scream 5. Yeah. It's titled Scream. Even though they already did that. Yeah. What do you do? Put an asterisk by it? Like on IMDB. I guess they just have to put the year next to it. Like Scream 98

or 97. You usually got to do, like Scream 98 or 97. You usually got to do something, like put a three in there. I don't know. Oh, like SCR3AM? Yeah. Although that would be confusing because then it would seem it was like the, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Five cream.

Five cream. Five cream. Have you guys seen the new five cream? Nailed it. Called Dimension Films Marketing Department. But yeah, this one is apparently, without spoiling anything, the kind of meta target of this one is like toxic online fandom, which I guess kind of. So obviously everyone like the toxic online fandom community is like, shut the fuck up. Scream's woke. You ruined Scream by being woke.

That's so funny. And yeah. Oh, because like the main bad guy is like some person who's just a fan of the stab world, right? Yeah. fan of the stab world right yeah so apparently and i didn't remember any of this shit but like so scream 2 takes place in a in a world where the after the events of scream 1 they made a movie called stab that is like the inspired by that but it's a slasher movie and then so now inside this world like somebody is responding to the stab movies but like angrily and they even got the stab movie that the online toxic fan bros are mad at to be directed inside the movie by ryan johnson which is pretty funny because he directed the star wars

movie that everybody was so mad at right and yeah i don't know acting like this is a change or like that scream suddenly got woke is fucking stupid because they've you know the mid 90s like screams were about like how the the media was stupid and exploitative and you know focusing mainly on shitty right-wing media and that's i don't know which i didn't really get at the time but now when you look back it's like yeah the courtney cox character is like you know looks down her nose at horror slasher movies, but then is making, like, news stories that are basically, like, sensationalizing murders. Right.

So, I don't know. I mean, you know, there's also just, like, I think it also just played with, like, all the tropes in horror, too. Like, you know, and was just having more fun with it than, I think, the traditional, you know, slasher flick. But, I don't know, like it just seems so weird to be like this stabbing movies,

like all woke shit. Like that's, that's what you're parsing. Yeah. And I'm also just like, shut up. Just stop. Stop complaining.

Right. I mean, it must look like the walls are just closing in for those people. If they like, they have to look at everything, be like, it's too low. It's an invented problem. Yeah. It's a boogeyman i mean it's to me it's not much different than like the satanic panic where people are like playing cds backwards to hear the

devil or whatever right right yeah because it is an effective like you know rallying yes right yeah and then also it's like in a way that even affects like liberals and neoliberals where it's like, I feel like I can't go a day without hearing some clip from like a Van Jones podcast about cancel culture. Do you know what I mean? Right. And I'm like, why are we giving this air? It doesn't exist. Van Jones, he was part of the Obama administration. So if he's saying cancel culture, there's a problem. Like I'm going to, I'm going to take that on. He's got some great takes. some great takes i know but then it's also like okay is somebody in the obama administration the most left person that we can find yeah according to the mainstream media according to them yes yeah and that's the other thing is like and that's why we're fucked that is why we're fucked because it's we're not even really engaging with progressive politics or ideas like we're not

even able to have that discussion yet and it's like it's something i'm thinking about a lot it is how frustrating it is to run into like oh conversations about progressive politics in america when progressive politics in america like don't exist like it's so it's so radical to be like school lunch should be free right so it's like even the most left party in america is still you know center center right you're like well yes absolutely absolutely and in any other country like the discussions are just different and so it's so i feel like leftism and leftism in america is having a real it feels like we're like white knuckling and just clawing on for all that we can yeah throughout the entire history of the country yeah right yeah yeah but i mean i think about like i just feel like labor movements used to be so much more serious than they are now like

i felt like this was such a good i was like so hopeful in the last two years for like something to shift in labor it was such like a moment and now i see it sort of slipping away yeah i'm still hopeful but i don't know i think it's like a combination of the moment and the right set of like messaging and personalities that kind of that are going to bring people into the fold because there isn't really and and you know i think the mainstream media and the corporatocracy that we live in at large does a good job of sanitizing the landscape to make sure that voices like that aren't getting a ton of airtime and if they are it's in very like niche spaces

but i think like it's almost like you know you need people to to sort of covertly you know use these talking points without then sort of decoupling them from people's like, you know, accepted political vocabulary to just be like on a basic level. Should everybody be able to go to the doctor if they're sick? Right. Yeah. And don't say Medicare for all. Yeah. You know, and just say on a basic level, should you go become absolutely destitute because you wanted an education?

Does that seem that or is education or not? All right. Like or what are we saying here? Like those things. But it's it's just so difficult because there's so much messaging on the other side to immediately be like, oh, well, you want to give everything away for free. That's not what I said. I said little kids shouldn't have their stomachs so what if i do want to give everything away for free yeah right yeah like i mean it's just a whole thing right that's why yeah just come out with everything like yo i'm here free everything for everyone yeah i'm swinging for the rafters that is sort of how i'm getting in my old age where i'm sort of like yeah well what if life is just easy right yeah yeah, but my grandparents wouldn't be fair to me. A dying old man. Yeah. Who is sorry that you had a bad life. Exactly. That's exactly like, I'm sorry that you had a bad life. But that should radicalize you instead of, you know, cementing the way that you feel about the world. Do you look at me? Because I mean, it's funny, though, too, because there are we do have those conversations intergenerationally where like grandparents will like start, you know, speaking critically of their like grandchildren's like, oh, you guys have it so easy.

Yeah. It's like, didn't you dream of that for like, don't you want better for your generations? Or you just wanted to be like, I went through the most shit and we're going to keep it that way. I'm champion of, you know, enduring the bullshit. Yeah. I do think, I think you have both the older generation that is slowly dying off and like socialism and leftism is like much more popular with young people. You also have like, I really think the like Ivy league educated educated and like you know the the people who

who come out of ivy league colleges every year and like go work for morgan stanley and you know like all these fucking banking like massive banks like they also have that have that same attitude of like well i paid and like my parents paid like this hundreds of thousands of dollars and like i know all this stuff so like it's not as simple as you think and it's like well maybe it is yeah i mean that's the tough part about meeting young conservatives or people who are not would not consider themselves conservatives but would are like a neoliberal sort of like capitalism pilled as it were is that it's going to take so much unlearning for them to be on our page and we as a movement need to make sure that we're keeping space for that otherwise we're never going to bring anybody over

right yeah yeah absolutely yeah and i think i i honestly i feel like the most i've seen in terms of just even in my friend group or like you know social cohort from like kids i went to school with it it's happened pretty naturally just by them observing things more like they before been like my dad worked for warner brothers and my mom was a bank manager and now they're like yo fuck 12 man i'm like i'm a fucking like let me get my fucking you know they now they're like, yo, fuck 12, man. I'm like, I'm a fucking like, let me get my fucking, you know, they're, they're like on their, their, their political ideology has shifted a lot because some are working in industries where they're like, this is absolute bullshit. Like what I'm seeing. And so I feel like some of it is what it seems to be happening

experientially, but yeah, there is watching that evolution happen. Isn't going to happen by just dragging people to the other side more. So like, like it's gonna it has to be a little more like lived you know yeah and unfortunately as things get worse i think it will become lived for a lot of people and people who consider their class status safe are going to really challenge that i'm going to have to challenge that idea yeah yep i do worry that it's where the one group that seems to have a clear path of like okay so everything's desperate and doesn't work anymore

so what are we going to do with like the public outrage seems to be the fascists so true somewhat worrying but we'll cover that on future episodes from our prison cells Ellery such a pleasure having you as thank you so much for having me uh where can people find you and follow you you can find me

on instagram at ellery underscore smith yeah yeah and is there a tweet or some other work of social media that you've been enjoying yeah i, I saw this tweet this week. It's from Sophie from Mars, Sophie underscore from FRM underscore Mars. And it says, Me, an Oompa Loompa, watching a kid with a personality disorder rock up to the candy factory

where I'm an indentured servant. Yeah, man, this kid's gonna get stretched for sure. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. And if you like terrible reality television like 90 Day Fiance or Married at First Sight, come check out 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra and I. Let's see.

A couple of tweets I like First one is from Trash Jones at Jay Zucks tweeting being an Adult is wild because you'll just be crying in Your room and five minutes later boom You're on a work call So real Another one from Yedoya at Yedoya underscore

Tweeted I'm so fucking Embarrassed man a lady on the train asked Me what grade i'm in and i said oh i'm a grown man i saw that tweet what grade are you in oh i'm a grown man really he's also like grown grown like he's not 21 yeah right exactly I think it's yeah he's just you know that's his boyish appeal he's a boyish vibe you can find me on twitter at

jack underscore o'brien tweet I've been enjoying Steven Wilber guest from a couple days ago for the photo from the episode. Just go check it out. We'll link off to it. It's pretty funny.

He's a real fucking weirdo. And then I also enjoyed a tweet from Buffalo Jill tweeted breaking shortly after a divorce announcement Jason Momoa seen holding hands with Pete Davidson outside popular LA eatery.

And I had to go check. I didn't know if that was true. You never know. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes.

We'll link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do we think people might enjoy today okay this is a remix of sad girls love money uh it's a track with uh amare cali uchis who i absolutely love Molly, and it's a remix by Virgo Deep. It's the Virgo Deep remix of Sad Girls Love Money. And it's just like a sexy song. It's got good beats to it, and the vocals are really great. So it just gets you moving.

You know, your hips will be swaying at the very least. And why not take this into the start of your week? Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, The Daily Zeca is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever fine podcasts are given away for free. That is going to do it for us this morning, but we're back this afternoon to tell you

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